Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, and it's time for another edition of
Speaker 1: Mick Shots. As the Cowboys on the day after a
Speaker 1: twenty four nineteen loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers at AT
Speaker 1: and T Stadium start there bye week, and there is
Speaker 1: news already happening around the Star in Frisco as this
Speaker 1: week begins. Mickey Spagnola inside the SWBC Mortgage studios at
Speaker 1: Forward Center at the Star in Frisco. We expect to
Speaker 1: be joined by Everson Walls here shortly as we look
Speaker 1: back at Sunday afternoon at AT and T Stadium. But Mickey,
Speaker 1: about right off the bat. First off, how are you
Speaker 1: doing on this fine Monday. I'm doing fine on this
Speaker 1: fine Monday here in my SWBC mortgage studio, and you
Speaker 1: look like you're doing great. You got your ball cap
Speaker 1: on on a Monday after That's right, yep, it was.
Speaker 1: I've been studying up so much on the game from
Speaker 1: yesterday and this bye week opponent this week that I
Speaker 1: will take my shower after we get done with mick shots. Well,
Speaker 1: very good, because there was when you when you end
Speaker 1: up playing close games like this, there's always a lot
Speaker 1: to go back and look at. You know, when you
Speaker 1: get wiped out, it's like, okay, just got beat. But
Speaker 1: I know in this game, Bill, I went back. I
Speaker 1: don't know, I probably got home about eleventh last night
Speaker 1: from the stadium, and of course I had to go
Speaker 1: back and check out several plays and rewatch them, and
Speaker 1: I ended up with a full page here and then
Speaker 1: the back page here of critical plays in this game
Speaker 1: that I know we don't have time to go all
Speaker 1: over all of them. But when you lose twenty four nineteen,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different things that lead to that outcome,
Speaker 1: good and bad. Well, isn't it nice to have here
Speaker 1: a couple of games in a row now where you
Speaker 1: can actually fill up both sides of a sheet of
Speaker 1: notebook paper with critical plays. Yeah, that's two weeks in
Speaker 1: a row, right, And you know last week we talked
Speaker 1: about how well, okay, the defense looked like they took
Speaker 1: a step forward, but it was against the Eagles. Well,
Speaker 1: they took another step forward. And this wasn't just against
Speaker 1: the Steelers. This was against the Steelers that came into
Speaker 1: this game averaging thirty points a game, had not scored
Speaker 1: fewer than twenty five in any game, And the Cowboys
Speaker 1: really did a nice job defensively to kind of hold
Speaker 1: the Steelers down to a manageable amount of points. That
Speaker 1: gave yourself a chance to win and really not have
Speaker 1: to come out of your game plan since, by golly,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had a thirteen point lead in a game,
Speaker 1: the biggest lead they've had all season long, So again
Speaker 1: encouraging steps. Unfortunately, they did not get a rewarded for
Speaker 1: playing much better defensively. And then a really fine performance
Speaker 1: by Garrett Gilbert on offense, starting his first NFL game,
Speaker 1: and I don't care if this is his seventh season
Speaker 1: or not. He had not played a full game since
Speaker 1: like March I think it was March thirtieth of twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen with the Orlando Apollos, by the way, and had
Speaker 1: only thrown six passes in the NFL in his career
Speaker 1: to this point. So we almost had another really really
Speaker 1: fairy tale story about a Cowboys backup quarterback coming in
Speaker 1: to save the day. And the other thing that I'm
Speaker 1: taking away with taken from that game yesterday is the
Speaker 1: fact that there's really not that much difference between the
Speaker 1: best teams in the league and the teams that are
Speaker 1: sitting there with two and seven records right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you break it all down, you take a couple
Speaker 1: three players off that Steelers team, and they might be
Speaker 1: sitting there at two and seven also right now. Everson
Speaker 1: Walls I think might be joining us here. Hey not, Everson.
Speaker 1: Not only did two or three players make a difference,
Speaker 1: two or three bad calls also make a difference in
Speaker 1: the ball game. I mean, we talked about it. We've
Speaker 1: always said that, you know, I go on my little
Speaker 1: rants about we get the worst officiating crew because we're
Speaker 1: at the bottom now as far as wins are concerned.
Speaker 1: It seems as if you know, nothing's critical to the referees,
Speaker 1: whether there's critical to us as fans and as Cowboy fans,
Speaker 1: as Cowboy players. And I'm a little bit different from
Speaker 1: you Spags in regard to the fact that I expect
Speaker 1: more from these guys. You know, you're giving them a pass.
Speaker 1: I'm not giving them a pass because I see just
Speaker 1: how good they can be, and I'm really encouraged by that.
Speaker 1: So of course, if you see that they're finally realizing
Speaker 1: their potential, then I'm going to expect more from them
Speaker 1: physically and mentally. Gilbert, good game. But I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: on the couch with my family. I'm thinking about you
Speaker 1: two guys. I'm wanting to build courses like I do.
Speaker 1: You know, the last thing that you do is have
Speaker 1: a turnover in that situation. My daughter knows it, my
Speaker 1: son knows it, my wife comes walking in the room
Speaker 1: even she knows it. You do not throw that into
Speaker 1: And it just got me off of my couch. I
Speaker 1: think I texted Spags Bill. You know, I didn't think
Speaker 1: of you at that time because this is mix shots
Speaker 1: and I know Mick was gonna go off, but I
Speaker 1: can't give them a pass on that one. I am
Speaker 1: so sorry, guys. I expect more from them. We should
Speaker 1: have won this game going away. When you realize what
Speaker 1: you're doing before you wake up, you say, let's go
Speaker 1: forward with this, because if I wake up from this dream,
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna be back here again. Right now, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys had the perfect situation. They had many situations. You
Speaker 1: could have gambled a little bit more. You could have
Speaker 1: believed in yourself, you know, and you could have played smart.
Speaker 1: So right now, I'm happy about what we did, but
Speaker 1: I'm also so sad about how we lost it. Okay, Everson,
Speaker 1: I got it, Micky, I gotta jump in there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was trying to get in there, but he wouldn't
Speaker 1: let me in. I'm not letting you in, damn. And
Speaker 1: that was my time. I give it to you, Mickey,
Speaker 1: I give it to you. But I just got to
Speaker 1: say I did the exact same thing you did, Everson,
Speaker 1: watching the game at home on my couch and I
Speaker 1: was watching it by myself help. And right before that,
Speaker 1: my wife had come in from shopping, her sister in
Speaker 1: laws intown, just got intown, my nephews with them, my
Speaker 1: daughter is they all walk in and I'm just oblivious
Speaker 1: to them. I mean, she just got into town and
Speaker 1: I'm not even I'm focused on this game and I'm
Speaker 1: not even paying attention to them, and I'm yelling at
Speaker 1: the TV when that interception happened, and they quickly got
Speaker 1: their beverages and went out on the back porch. Thank god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the game, Yeah, this is this is not a place
Speaker 1: for the faith of hard exact same thing you did,
Speaker 1: all right, that's exactly right, all right, what you got man,
Speaker 1: So he should have never been put in that situation
Speaker 1: at the five yard line, throwing passes into the end
Speaker 1: zone or attempting to throw passes into the end zone.
Speaker 1: If you look at the second down play, seconding goal
Speaker 1: at the five, had that pass not been batted at
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage by TJ. Watt, that ball was
Speaker 1: going to get intercepted in the end zone. And the
Speaker 1: next play you've got a field goal in your back pocket.
Speaker 1: And I'm not a fan of field goals, but when
Speaker 1: you can go up twenty two twenty two fifteen, then
Speaker 1: I think you've got to protect the field goal and
Speaker 1: you've got to protect your quarterback. Should have ran the
Speaker 1: ball twice, even if Pittsburgh is stacking the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage with seven eight guys at the line, six guys
Speaker 1: blitzing all the time. I just think you had to
Speaker 1: be conservative there and protect your quarterback and not asked
Speaker 1: him to do something that he hadn't done since March
Speaker 1: thirtieth of twenty nineteen. And I think you had to
Speaker 1: take that into account. And know that you had a
Speaker 1: field goal in your back pocket and not try to
Speaker 1: do something fancy. And it wasn't his fault. He's trying
Speaker 1: to throw the ball away and he gets blasted and
Speaker 1: unfortunately the ball pops up in the air and it's
Speaker 1: an interception. So I think you had to protect your
Speaker 1: quarterback at that spot. And I agree wholeheartedly, and in
Speaker 1: fact that you're in the field goal range. Yeah, go ahead, Everson.
Speaker 1: I think my thing was we just have to we
Speaker 1: have to go. We have to make sure that we
Speaker 1: secure one thing. At least. I want to go for
Speaker 1: the score, but we've got to make sure that we
Speaker 1: end up with no less than that field goal. Yes,
Speaker 1: and you went a little, you went out on him.
Speaker 1: My internet is horrible over here right now. But but Spats,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can hear me, but you
Speaker 1: know that was the passing offense call. I've got a
Speaker 1: list of bad plays by the referees, and that was
Speaker 1: one of them. Should have called the passion affairence on Cooper.
Speaker 1: It's easy to call. I don't I don't understand why.
Speaker 1: It seems that when the Cowboys need a play and
Speaker 1: we make that play, they always find one of our
Speaker 1: dbs holding and rightfully so, I see it all the time.
Speaker 1: They're holding. They shouldn't have held. They deserved the call.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Pittsburgh does the same thing. Blatant hook
Speaker 1: moved by the slot deb dB as Cooper was about
Speaker 1: to beat him inside that past still should not have
Speaker 1: been thrown. I see. I think that's where Gilbert was looking.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, we need that call to
Speaker 1: be made. It's only fair that you call PI in
Speaker 1: the end zone. You call it all the time, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, want to swallow your whistle. And I
Speaker 1: don't understand this reticence on these referees in these Cowboys games.
Speaker 1: That seems to be a virus going around of ignorance
Speaker 1: when it comes to these referees, because it's a clear
Speaker 1: call that should have been made. And when you're talking
Speaker 1: about a crucial situation like this, if you're talking about
Speaker 1: a team that's seven and old, you're talking about another
Speaker 1: team who's, you know, the most renowned team in the world.
Speaker 1: So you gotta send in referees that know what the
Speaker 1: hell they're doing. McCarthy's gonna have a freaking aneurysm over
Speaker 1: there if they keep on screwing him over in these
Speaker 1: critical situations because he sees it and he's letting them know.
Speaker 1: And I'm hoping that he continues this throughout the week
Speaker 1: because the Cowboys have been getting hosed by the referees
Speaker 1: way too much this season. I don't think there's a
Speaker 1: vaccine for that virus either. By the way, I hope
Speaker 1: y'all heard that, because my internet is horrible. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we did. We did. Hear you ever soon, and I'll
Speaker 1: reiterate that when I was yelling at the TV, it
Speaker 1: wasn't at ed Gary Gilbert. It was I agree with you,
Speaker 1: Mickey wholeheartedly that that you just can't put your quarterback
Speaker 1: who's got three practice well not even all of three
Speaker 1: practices with the first team the past week, out there
Speaker 1: in that situation. You got to protect him from making
Speaker 1: a mistake against the number one pass rush in the league,
Speaker 1: and you gotta come away from that situation where a
Speaker 1: twenty two to fifteen lead and then the rest of
Speaker 1: the game might play out a little bit differently. So
Speaker 1: that's just the way I look at that as well.
Speaker 1: While we're on that subject, Mickey, maybe one of the
Speaker 1: decisions on your little play sheet there was kicking the
Speaker 1: field goal on fourth and inches. How did you feel
Speaker 1: about that? Yeah, you're absolutely right, And I think uh uh,
Speaker 1: Tony Romo and I were on the on the same
Speaker 1: page on that one. I just think and think and
Speaker 1: taking into consideration who you are, who you're playing, where
Speaker 1: you're at, how hard it is to get that close,
Speaker 1: uh to scoring a touchdown and you just got inches
Speaker 1: to go. I just think you got to gamble there
Speaker 1: and not take the field goal, uh, and and go
Speaker 1: for it, I think and that and it was early
Speaker 1: enough in the game, uh to to go ahead and
Speaker 1: do that. And as I've always said, especially in that case,
Speaker 1: the more field goals you kick, you're getting closer to
Speaker 1: getting beat because you're allowing that other team to get
Speaker 1: back into the game. And I just think they had
Speaker 1: to gamble. And I don't even know if you call
Speaker 1: it a gamble at that point. I think you just
Speaker 1: had to go for it at that At that point,
Speaker 1: your rights fad that that's no gamble at all. You're
Speaker 1: talking about inches, and you know, even when you go
Speaker 1: to that situation once again, I'm going to my referees.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, guys, I thought that was a bad spot.
Speaker 1: I really did. I thought that was just a bad
Speaker 1: spot by the referees. I thought, Uh, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: that that run by Zeke of ten or eleven yard run,
Speaker 1: whereas elbow came down, that was the that was what
Speaker 1: preceded that decision. Correct, Is that to play the decision? Yes,
Speaker 1: there's eight yard runs. To me, as he before, he
Speaker 1: felt he used that one leg and he used just
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a push off to stay
Speaker 1: off the ground. The elbow was there. To me, the
Speaker 1: elbow was there. Base called it a good spot. A
Speaker 1: matter of fact, Romo called it a perfect spot. I
Speaker 1: called it a bad spot. It seems as if teams
Speaker 1: are that are losing, referees never give them the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt any other time, any other game. They're
Speaker 1: gonna come up, they're gonna put that ball down, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna say move the chains. That's what they should
Speaker 1: have done with us. I just don't. I think that's
Speaker 1: just a no brainer. I don't know what you guys saw.
Speaker 1: I thought his elbow was down at the first down marker.
Speaker 1: When when? When? When that referee on that side. Uh?
Speaker 1: The official on the Cowboys sidelines initially spotted the ball.
Speaker 1: He put his foot right on the first down line.
Speaker 1: And then when he came in and set the ball
Speaker 1: down here back about six inches and moved the first time.
Speaker 1: He sure did. And that guy, that guy really critical
Speaker 1: calls in the game that I'm surprised McCarthy just didn't
Speaker 1: beat him up. Wouldn't that be a sight right because
Speaker 1: he was in that guy. He was in that guy.
Speaker 1: That's the same guy I think it was on that
Speaker 1: side of the field when they called the big play
Speaker 1: back for steel not being on the line of scrimmage. Uh.
Speaker 1: And even Romo said, normally when that happens, they'll give
Speaker 1: the guy a warning and say, hey, you better bring
Speaker 1: it up and you get a warning, right, And he
Speaker 1: got no warning. He threw the flag no warning. And
Speaker 1: it's like I thought, yeah, McCarthy was gonna come unglued.
Speaker 1: But there's you know, there's a bunch of them. And
Speaker 1: I'll go back to the interception. By the way, in
Speaker 1: the end zone, Cameron Hayward should have been called for
Speaker 1: hands to the face. He had he had his hand
Speaker 1: right in the chin of Connor Williams pushing the whole way,
Speaker 1: which caused the thing to collapse and it was obvious.
Speaker 1: I saw it real time. It was like, whoa look
Speaker 1: at that? And and no call? How do you miss that?
Speaker 1: How do you miss that? I got I got one
Speaker 1: for you, and I got one for you, then I
Speaker 1: got personal. No one, no one made reference to it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw a bill because you're
Speaker 1: at home by yourself. Your wife wasn't there for distraction yet.
Speaker 1: And I hope you guys can hear me because my
Speaker 1: internet once again is Harbor. First quarter, ten fifty at
Speaker 1: the ten fifty five mark, No, no, no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Let me start over. First quarter? Was it seven thirteen mark?
Speaker 1: Pollock breaks through. That's his first big run. Did anyone
Speaker 1: notice of Fitzpackrid Fitzpatrick horsecollar on that play? He was
Speaker 1: tackled at the fourteen yard line and Pollock gave a
Speaker 1: good stiff arm to him. And in order for that
Speaker 1: guy to to maintain a grass on Polot, he had
Speaker 1: to grab him around the show the pad and he
Speaker 1: brought him down hard. That was at the fourteen yard line.
Speaker 1: If the referee is on his job, then we get
Speaker 1: half the distance after that and we're at the seven
Speaker 1: yard line. We end up kicking the field goals. After that,
Speaker 1: you put me at the seventh, I might score a touchdown. Look,
Speaker 1: things like that just really make a difference in the
Speaker 1: ball game when you have the just ineptitude of referees.
Speaker 1: And really there wasn't even a tough call to make.
Speaker 1: There were the only two people involved in the play itself,
Speaker 1: So for them not to see that, it just seems
Speaker 1: like they're just out. They're just out to lunch. They're
Speaker 1: just out to lunch. I'm sorry, all right, we gotta
Speaker 1: go up against a break. I do want to say
Speaker 1: this about the fourth and inches decision. I initially and
Speaker 1: I agree with you on the spot, although the last
Speaker 1: replay made me wonder if it was whether it was
Speaker 1: good or not. But anyway, that's beside the point. I
Speaker 1: did not have an issue with kicking the field go
Speaker 1: there because I going into this game, this is my philosophy.
Speaker 1: With a quarterback who's had three practices, I just don't
Speaker 1: think he's going to be able to convert touchdowns in
Speaker 1: the red zone myself, and I think that the chances
Speaker 1: were greater that there would be a negative play that
Speaker 1: would get you either not out of field goal range
Speaker 1: necessarily at that point because you're at the twenty yard line.
Speaker 1: Although it could have happened with a sack, but coughing
Speaker 1: up the football or whatever where you don't get those
Speaker 1: three points. I want those three points so badly because
Speaker 1: of the situation. If it was Dac at quarterback, if
Speaker 1: it was Dalton at quarterback, I'd say go for it.
Speaker 1: But also I looked at the last three times that
Speaker 1: Zeke carried the football. He went for zero yards, one
Speaker 1: yard in zero yards prior to that eight yard run.
Speaker 1: I thought you were fortunate that you got within inches. Okay,
Speaker 1: you didn't get the call go ahead and take your
Speaker 1: three points a ten point lead late in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: That's the way I looked at it. But I totally
Speaker 1: understand going for it as well. It's just in my mindset,
Speaker 1: with a quarterback making his first start with three practices,
Speaker 1: I just don't think you're gonna be converting to having
Speaker 1: much success in the red zone at all. All Right,
Speaker 1: we gotta take a break. You sound like an analytics guy. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just ultra conservative. With a quarterback that
Speaker 1: doesn't have any experience at all, you gotta do what's happening.
Speaker 1: My gut was totally opposite, because Tony Romo, when he
Speaker 1: was a rookie, he would have wanted to go for
Speaker 1: it too, And I guarantee you built barselves would have
Speaker 1: taken him out of harm's away. No, Romo, you can't
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Speaker 1: are going through your playlist of critical moments in Sunday's
Speaker 1: game and before you we get to your next whatever
Speaker 1: you want to go with on your playsheet there. How
Speaker 1: about some an update on injury situation. I know Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones was on the radio this morning and gave us
Speaker 1: an update on Tyler Battish as well as uh Andy Dalton. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he also so on Tyler Bottish ended up pulling
Speaker 1: a hamstring muscle and it sound like from what he said,
Speaker 1: he'd be out two to three woody warmups in warmups,
Speaker 1: in warmups. Go figure you finally you were gonna get
Speaker 1: your same combination of offensive linemen for two consecutive weeks
Speaker 1: and you couldn't make it to the game and warm
Speaker 1: ups and Looney's got to come up. Mickey ever said,
Speaker 1: how how often do you hear about an offensive lineman
Speaker 1: pulling a hamstring? Uh? Never? Are you trying to take
Speaker 1: away that they're not built. You just off to uh
Speaker 1: to have always he doing in a young man, especially
Speaker 1: a young man especially, I mean he's a young man
Speaker 1: to have one problems and warm up and give me
Speaker 1: a break. I didn't even start stretching until I was
Speaker 1: thirty years old. Come on, man, this guy's twenty seven
Speaker 1: years old. He pulls hamstring. I wonder who was a back,
Speaker 1: who was the backup center after that loony right? And
Speaker 1: then after him? Yeah, unbelievable, wouldn't it. I don't know
Speaker 1: if McGovern's yeah, you know, when I when i've seen
Speaker 1: him do the quarterback school, I hadn't seen McGovern over
Speaker 1: there doing that kind of stuff, So I don't know
Speaker 1: where they would have gone. Um, so, how how long
Speaker 1: is he out? How long does this out? Guys? Oh,
Speaker 1: he's out a couple of three weeks at least. I mean,
Speaker 1: they got guys on the practice squad that they can
Speaker 1: move up that that Marcus Henry and and Redman. They
Speaker 1: can they can put those guys on the fifty three
Speaker 1: from the practice squad. But yeah, and then Trayvon Diggs
Speaker 1: has a foot injury. They were trying to wrap it. I'
Speaker 1: might have been an ankle, and uh, he doesn't come back,
Speaker 1: and so now they've got to play Savian Smith at
Speaker 1: right corner because Chitabee Woozier did not get activated off
Speaker 1: of injured reserve. So now we got to keep an
Speaker 1: eye on what happens with digs. And I think there
Speaker 1: was was there one more injury bill that took place
Speaker 1: in the game. I'm trying well Dalton hell yeah, and
Speaker 1: Dalton first coming back, he sounded like with the with
Speaker 1: the bye week, that he should be out of the
Speaker 1: reserve COVID nineteen list by time they have to play Minnesota.
Speaker 1: So I think those were the three things that Stephen
Speaker 1: gave us updates on. We'll find out more at four
Speaker 1: thirty when Mike McCarthy does his conference call. All right,
Speaker 1: so next up on your play sheet? What do you
Speaker 1: got there, Mickey? Where do you want to go? Oh? My, uh,
Speaker 1: let's talk good stuff. Well we can, we can, we
Speaker 1: can certainly talk. Don't have anything written down? Yeah? I do.
Speaker 1: And did you notice how they were able to set
Speaker 1: up that uh, that punt return the pass off the
Speaker 1: punt returned because the first I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was the first punt or the second punt. They had Cedric,
Speaker 1: They had Cedric Wilson back returning punts, so it wasn't
Speaker 1: out of the ordinary when they did this that he
Speaker 1: went back there and didn't cost spread up. Oh why
Speaker 1: is that guy back there? Right? Uh? And they uh
Speaker 1: so yeah, and a heck of a play, and you know,
Speaker 1: the unfortunate And then I didn't know. I didn't know.
Speaker 1: We had to go to acting class to uh to
Speaker 1: fake the hamstring pull to finish our special teams plays.
Speaker 1: Did you see the acting Yes, I think it was
Speaker 1: Thompson did no, it was good. One hamstring yeah, so
Speaker 1: so and then the other thing, very creative. The other
Speaker 1: thing is and the small things that make a difference,
Speaker 1: and you and you end up getting the ball down
Speaker 1: to the nine yard line right, and and of all things,
Speaker 1: you get a block in the back that didn't need
Speaker 1: to be thrown on Thompson and now it's fifteen yards back.
Speaker 1: You're at the thirty one and you end up kicking
Speaker 1: a field goal when you would have had a really
Speaker 1: good chance to possibly score a touchdown. So you did
Speaker 1: something good and then something bad happens. You know the
Speaker 1: same thing with Donald's kickoff return, you get a big
Speaker 1: kickoff return that and you can't get a touchdown, you
Speaker 1: end up with a field goal. You know. The other
Speaker 1: thing on the punt return, the scheme by John Fossil
Speaker 1: on that, you know, it's really unusual. You see that
Speaker 1: occasionally on a kickoff return, but on a punt return,
Speaker 1: it's really unusual to see that because you have to
Speaker 1: depend on the directional punt by the other team to
Speaker 1: get it to send it to the other side of
Speaker 1: the field. I have seen Fossil do that before. I
Speaker 1: remember when he was with the Saint Louis Rams. He
Speaker 1: did it with Tavon Austin and Steadman Bailey and I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure it was on a kickoff return and that
Speaker 1: was what I was reminded of that. I remember it
Speaker 1: being a kickoff return and it worked, and I can't
Speaker 1: remember if Tavan threw it to Sedmond Bailey or vice versa,
Speaker 1: but it worked and they scored a touchdown on it.
Speaker 1: But I just thought to do it to be able
Speaker 1: to pull that off on a punt return, I don't
Speaker 1: know that I've seen it very often on a punt return. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you gotta have a returner who's a former directional
Speaker 1: kickie because for them to be able to set it
Speaker 1: up like that, they must he must be consistently kicking
Speaker 1: to that side that's right, and then the other and
Speaker 1: then the other thing is you one of your returners
Speaker 1: have to have a strong enough arm to throw the
Speaker 1: ball as far as Cedric Wilson did. Uh. And then
Speaker 1: you better hope the cornerback is a cornerback because he
Speaker 1: is a cornerback. You gotta hope that's not there because
Speaker 1: he can't catch the ball right as a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: And then he bobbled that thing, almost dropped it. It
Speaker 1: was a perfect pass too. Um, Okay, I gotta, I gotta,
Speaker 1: I gotta, I got another one for you. I gotta say, guys,
Speaker 1: I know I know somebody. I know somebody on that
Speaker 1: Cowboys coaching staff that is earning his paycheck every week,
Speaker 1: and that is a special team's coach, Fossil. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're talking about going deep into the into your your
Speaker 1: special team's playbook week end and week out. Every week
Speaker 1: we come up with something unique to give ourselves a
Speaker 1: chance to win a ball game. And most of them work.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I've never seen a special teams coach
Speaker 1: work so hard at being innovative and trying to do
Speaker 1: his part and keep this team in the in the
Speaker 1: winning column. I told you, guys, we gotta have all
Speaker 1: three fasces of the game. We have to have it.
Speaker 1: We cannot keep thinking just defense and offense. Special teams
Speaker 1: has to enhance our chances, which he's tried to do
Speaker 1: all year long. And I'm very very impressed with the
Speaker 1: effort that they're giving mentally and physically, well other things.
Speaker 1: How about coming up with an alignment to help block
Speaker 1: a kick with Crawford when exactly when he blocked that,
Speaker 1: well did you see that? Yeah? And he and he
Speaker 1: did it the other time and nearly blocked it. And
Speaker 1: then also having the foresight on that the kickoff that
Speaker 1: they tried to pooch down to the corner of the
Speaker 1: goal line, he had two running back and he had
Speaker 1: two guys back for that it was Pollard and Dottle,
Speaker 1: so they were spread out in case they kicked it
Speaker 1: into the corner. It was almost like he was anticipating that. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then they had all the blockers over there, and boy,
Speaker 1: that guy can scoot. Did I mentioned his name on Friday,
Speaker 1: by the way, and you the roster, Yes, you did.
Speaker 1: Yes you did. That's the first time he touched the
Speaker 1: whole season. That should have been your pick to clicky,
Speaker 1: I don't know that right. Here's the other thing on
Speaker 1: Rico o'dowdle. Had we had preseason games, we'd all know
Speaker 1: about Rico o'dowdle because he's got a lot of time
Speaker 1: in the preseason. He was a secret weapon on that
Speaker 1: kickoff return. And I like the way he runs too,
Speaker 1: And I've heard from scouts that they really were high
Speaker 1: on him as an undrafted guy, and you can see
Speaker 1: why on that run. And you know what, we also
Speaker 1: should give a hand to Henry Stroka, who's kind of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys scout that kind of takes care of kickers
Speaker 1: and punters. To find Nice Wander. Well, we were all
Speaker 1: sitting here going, oh my god, they got this new punter.
Speaker 1: He did just fine. And his holds were just fine too,
Speaker 1: by the way, So shout out to Henry. All right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and the hunter, the punter and the holder too, Hunter
Speaker 1: and us nice wander. All right. We continue with more
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Speaker 1: that game was over, the crew was out there rolling
Speaker 1: up the field because they had to get rid of
Speaker 1: PB getting ready for PBR on Thursday. Were the bulls
Speaker 1: already there? No, the bulls weren't there. You have some
Speaker 1: bull crap there though, I'll tell you, Oh it's funny.
Speaker 1: Ever said I like that. That was a good one,
Speaker 1: all right, Ricky? Yet what kind of bull do you
Speaker 1: have on the your playsheet? There? Third and twenty one
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and Roethlisberger throws deep for Claypool.
Speaker 1: It's incomplete, and Jalen Smith gets called for roughing the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Roughing the quarterback one hand, came the back of it,
Speaker 1: hit his face mask and came down on his shoulder pad.
Speaker 1: And somehow they saw that one which gave them a
Speaker 1: first down, yes, at the thirty six, and that drive
Speaker 1: continued on and it ended up with the Ebron touchdown.
Speaker 1: Otherwise the Cowboys at that point are forcing them to punt.
Speaker 1: I think there was gonna be maybe. Oh I had
Speaker 1: it written down like eight minutes left to go in
Speaker 1: the game. Uh and and oh no, there was like
Speaker 1: four minutes minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, sorry about that? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Can you that that that go ahead drop that was
Speaker 1: on the go ahead drive? Right? That was gonna buy
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a three and out. It was gonna
Speaker 1: be a three and out. They got a three and
Speaker 1: out and it was basically a hands to the face
Speaker 1: of the quarterback rough in the passer. I mean, how
Speaker 1: you as much as I called that, as much as
Speaker 1: I call that a nitpicking call, I was really hard
Speaker 1: on Jalen uh exactly on Twitter after that, and I
Speaker 1: should be. I was not gonna apologize bill Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I want. The words that came out of my mouth
Speaker 1: was that, uh, well, my words were Jaylea Smith is
Speaker 1: a black blank blank. But when I put it on Twitter,
Speaker 1: it was we have a an unintelligent defense. You know,
Speaker 1: we have to believe in ourselves. We have to believe
Speaker 1: that we are good players. Good players don't do ignorant
Speaker 1: things in that manner at that time of the ball game.
Speaker 1: It's reckless, it's irresponsible, and there are things that should
Speaker 1: go through your mind before certain players, such as Gay
Speaker 1: Gilbert's interception. This is also another one when I make
Speaker 1: this rush. I have got to be legitimate in every
Speaker 1: way and as a leader of this team, and that's
Speaker 1: what Jaylen Smith thinks he is. He has got to
Speaker 1: do better. There is no excuse for what he did
Speaker 1: and I'm not forgiving one play and saying that that
Speaker 1: was the demise of a game or a season or whatever,
Speaker 1: but that was a huge mistake in the ball game
Speaker 1: at that particular time. We had a time to make
Speaker 1: up for all other craft that we had done, we
Speaker 1: could make up for in this moment, and he chose
Speaker 1: to follow a certain pattern that we've always been subject
Speaker 1: to all season long. Right now, the very disappointed him.
Speaker 1: Hit very disappointing. His biggest mistake was on the goal
Speaker 1: line after having a great ball game, by the way, yeah,
Speaker 1: after having a decent ball game. His biggest mistake, though,
Speaker 1: was was on the Ebron touchdown when they looked like
Speaker 1: they were in man defense and Jalen's got the tight
Speaker 1: end and he just stood there and started motioning like
Speaker 1: this at the snap for the corner who was covering
Speaker 1: a receiver. It was Savion Smith. There were two receivers.
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis was over there covering the other guy. They
Speaker 1: carried them into the end zone and Jalen got frozen.
Speaker 1: He didn't do anything, and I'm guessing that's gotta be
Speaker 1: his guy, and he never took a step over there.
Speaker 1: And then poor Savion tries to make the tackle and
Speaker 1: Ebron leaps over him into the end zone for the
Speaker 1: touch ever since, ever since him when it's really that
Speaker 1: was a good thing because you kind of wanted them
Speaker 1: to score quick at that point. Well, yeah, so the
Speaker 1: we could have it. It was the John Madden philosophy. Okay,
Speaker 1: he was employing that. Yeah, no, I think it. Actually
Speaker 1: it was a very smart play and he was employing that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was all in his head. He looked at his
Speaker 1: size and he loved ay Bron's size and said, I
Speaker 1: better not hit him in the chest. I might embarrass myself.
Speaker 1: No I'm saying, I'm saying, do you Oh yeah, let
Speaker 1: him go score now. I don't think that went through
Speaker 1: the ball back. Okay, so here's the other key part
Speaker 1: you think. Here's the other key point in the game.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys were up nineteen to nine, there was two
Speaker 1: thirteen left to go in the third quarter, and Pittsburgh said,
Speaker 1: you know what, we don't need a running back on
Speaker 1: the field. We've only gained forty some yards. We're going
Speaker 1: four wide receivers in a tight end. And Roethlisberger then
Speaker 1: threw the ball on twenty two of the next twenty
Speaker 1: three snaps for one hundred and ninety three yards when
Speaker 1: he only threw for one hundred and eleven in the
Speaker 1: first half. And the Cowboys finally know why, and we're
Speaker 1: trying to hang in here with our nickel, but we're
Speaker 1: gonna go to our dime now, finally, finally, but they
Speaker 1: could not cover all those receivers and the tight end.
Speaker 1: And that's when Roethlisberger turned the game around and picked
Speaker 1: him a cart because they basically went four wide in
Speaker 1: a tight end the rest of the game until they
Speaker 1: had the lead. So do you have how many passes
Speaker 1: that Roethlisberger threw from that point on? I said twenty
Speaker 1: two of twenty three. Okay, So basically, the Steelers, maybe
Speaker 1: for the first time this year, were in the same
Speaker 1: position the Cowboys have been in all season long, especially
Speaker 1: when Dak was at quarterback. Two, when Dak racks up
Speaker 1: all these numbers where he's throwing the ball on every
Speaker 1: play in the second half because the team is down
Speaker 1: by multiple by double digg. Well, the Steelers found themselves
Speaker 1: down late in the third quarter, down by ten points,
Speaker 1: and okay, let's put it in the hands of our quarterback.
Speaker 1: The other part of that is, and you talked ever
Speaker 1: since about positives coming out of this game. How about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys run defense and what they did against this
Speaker 1: Steelers rushing offense. The Steelers couldn't run the ball against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and so it was even if it was
Speaker 1: a tie game at that point, it would behoove them
Speaker 1: to go ahead and throw the ball because they weren't
Speaker 1: running it against the Cowboys in this game. You know
Speaker 1: what I thought. I thought Gallimore really came alive in
Speaker 1: that game, and maybe they should make a bad defense
Speaker 1: that Mikenilder came up with, and maybe they should make
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods the captain every game because he came alive too.
Speaker 1: Those guys in the middle really played well, and they
Speaker 1: even got ankup some snaps too, the new guy that
Speaker 1: they had just traded for. So I thought the activity
Speaker 1: of those guys inside did a heck of a heck
Speaker 1: of a job. But again, it was just a shame
Speaker 1: that they couldn't match up with all those wide receivers
Speaker 1: to the finish the way they had stopped him previously. Bill,
Speaker 1: And you're right with the running game, I think they
Speaker 1: ended up with forty six yards rushing, and they just said,
Speaker 1: but so here's the downside. From the Cowboys standpoint, they
Speaker 1: couldn't sack Roethlisberger. They had a five man line and
Speaker 1: they stopped him every time. And I guess when you
Speaker 1: get spread out like that, it's hard to blitz because
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna be open if you take somebody off to blitz.
Speaker 1: H So they kind of got them in a bind
Speaker 1: when their front four could not get to Roethlisberger. During
Speaker 1: that whole period, he didn't get sacked once and I
Speaker 1: think I think he only got hit a couple of times,
Speaker 1: and so I thought that was the turning point. They
Speaker 1: gambled on throwing the ball every down to Cowboy knew
Speaker 1: they were throwing the ball. There was no one to
Speaker 1: hand it off to. And the one run they had
Speaker 1: was an end around two. Uh oh, maybe it might
Speaker 1: have been Ray Ray McLeod. I think they had Ray
Speaker 1: Ray McLeod. So that was it, and they but they
Speaker 1: couldn't put pressure on him that whole time. He was
Speaker 1: picking them apart, and that turned the entire game around.
Speaker 1: It went from nineteen nine to twenty four nineteen and
Speaker 1: he hit he hit my guy Juju four times, including
Speaker 1: the touchdown the guy that should have been a Cowboy
Speaker 1: that people talk about drafting t J. Watt instead of
Speaker 1: Taco in that draft. I would have taken Juju Smith
Speaker 1: Schuster myself. But that's another another story for another day.
Speaker 1: All Right, Everson's gonna be uh are you gonna be
Speaker 1: with the next couple of days? Everson? Do you remember
Speaker 1: we're changing up the line up the next couple of days.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he can hear us. We're losing everyone.
Speaker 1: Who you? Who you? Who are you? On tomorrow? We're
Speaker 1: changing the line there we go, look at there. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: all right, we're losing him. Where's he at? Whatever? It's
Speaker 1: on the screen here, I can't find him here. He's
Speaker 1: on the Players Lounge with NEWEI and Jesse, and we
Speaker 1: have joining us Dave Hellman and Heckma Harrison with us
Speaker 1: on mixed sets against two days. There's your podcast schedule,
Speaker 1: all right? Who I'm with? I'm with Heckma. No, you're
Speaker 1: with NEWI are you? You're with NEWI and Jesse on
Speaker 1: the Players Lounge right after us. I like Jesse. All right,
Speaker 1: that ought to be funny. I'm ready, I'm ready, Okay,
Speaker 1: we will see you again. Mickey and I on mix
Speaker 1: shots at one thirty tomorrow and right after that the
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