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Speaker 1: is one of those interviews that's a long time coming. Really,

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Speaker 1: am you get plenty of requests of you guys, got

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Speaker 1: to get Max Martini on. I mean so many people

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Speaker 1: Scott Spooner when they were on this show a long

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Speaker 1: time ago, maybe five years ago, and mentioned that Max

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Speaker 1: gotten uh, you know, messages from guys that have gone

426
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 1: through that program that you know are just that, you know,

427
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: one guy in particular, just oh god, it hit me

428
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: so hard. He was like, man, they gave you know,

429
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: my kid their dad back, and you know my wife

430
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: or husband back. I was gone, you know. And so yeah,

431
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: so they're changing lives. Uh. There's another charity called Higher Ground,

432
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: which is based out of Sun Valley, Idaho. Uh. They

433
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: used not only conventional therapies but also recreational therapies to

434
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: uh to UH to aid veterans UM. They opened up

435
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: a branch in l A which is addressing the homeless

436
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: veteran community here in southern California, which is great, uh

437
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: and something I'm passionate about. UM. And then lastly, the

438
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: Gary Sonese Foundation. Uh. You know, Gary's a buddy. Like

439
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: I said, he's in the movie. He's amazing in the film,

440
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: but his in you know, for I'm sure everybody on

441
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: your program is aware, but for those that aren't, you know,

442
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: Gary not only travels the world entertaining the troops through

443
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: his band, but they you know, he's building homes for veterans,

444
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: He's retrofitting homes for veterans that that are disabled. He's uh,

445
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, he took like thousands of gold Stars, our

446
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: moms and their kids to Disneyland. I mean, he's just

447
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: all over the map, and he's really a force in

448
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: the in the community. So Mike Schlittz has done a

449
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: lot of work with him, and I mean everything I've

450
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: always heard is that, you know, Gary Sinise is the

451
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: real deal, really does some tremendous work. I'm in constant

452
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: awe of he's you know, look, he's dedicated his life

453
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: to uh, to serving Bess, you know, and and and

454
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: he try booking him on something. I mean, he literally

455
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: has zero time to do anything else, and you know,

456
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,239
Speaker 1: it's become this. It's started small and now it's this

457
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: massive foundation that really is just doing a lot of

458
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: good man. So, yeah, what's the main thing that you

459
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: hope to accomplish with this film, other than of course

460
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,959
Speaker 1: raising money for veterans groups, which is most important, I know,

461
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: But for the average person seeing this film, whether they're

462
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: a veteran there's a billion. What do you want them

463
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: to get out of this? You know, I think that

464
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I wanted to serve as

465
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: a reminder because you know, I think that when when um,

466
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, veterans injured, let's say you're injured veterans or

467
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: you're not you know, in the news anymore, you forget

468
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: you know that that it exists. You move on, You

469
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: move on to you know, other things, the new you know,

470
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: the elections of whatever it is, you know, and and

471
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: and and I think and it's crucial that we remember

472
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: that there's people that And I said to people, I'm

473
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: not it's not a handful like there are. At the

474
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: end of my movie, there's some very sobering statistics that

475
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: we put up on screen. You know, there are hundreds

476
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: of thousands of veterans that have been affected by these

477
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: injuries and can you know, in conditions. So I want

478
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: people to remember that. I want people to to to

479
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: you know, make an effort to uh to get involved

480
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: and help out, you know, and not say you support veterans,

481
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: but actually do something to support a veteran and you know,

482
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: not be a talker, you know, but but show some action.

483
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: And you know, look, one of the things that you know,

484
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: I say, I'm passionate about homeless veterans. I mean, you know,

485
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: one of the things that that occurred to me, uh

486
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: in the while I was writing this thing is like,

487
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: you know, you pass these guys on the street holding

488
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: up these signs, you know, and and uh, you know, look,

489
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: I mean I think at one point we're probably all

490
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: guilty of, you know, being in a rush and avoiding

491
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: eye contact and not wanting to like you know, and

492
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: and sort of flying by them. But but the but

493
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: the reality is that that guy, that man or woman

494
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, may have served your fucking country, you know.

495
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: And and so it's it's crucial that we help these

496
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, our veterans out. Man. I mean, this is

497
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: the volunteery military. If you don't, if you if you don't,

498
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: if they this this is here's here's this is interesting.

499
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: This is something that Scott Spooner and I were saying,

500
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, is that we put we invest so much

501
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: money into our soldiers, into into turning them into soldiers.

502
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: We put them through basic we put them through specialty schools.

503
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: We you know, it's a whole thing. If we put

504
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: as much energy and money and resources into their exit

505
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: from combat back into into society. We wouldn't have these problems,

506
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, So that's awareness. It's a conversation. So really,

507
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: you know, if I start a conversation, which I know

508
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: I have, then then then it's you know, then we're

509
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: on the right track. I thought, no, go ahead, Max, No,

510
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, so hopefully the movie does that,

511
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: you know. I was just going to agree in the

512
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: sense that, you know, based on the first half of

513
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: the film that I've seen so far. You know, the

514
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: first scene, Will Gardner is, you know, sitting in the

515
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: bathtub pissing himself. You know, he's and he's it looks

516
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: like he's hit rock bottom. You know that the police

517
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: drag him outside. I know you know this. I'm saying

518
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: this for all at least, but I thought it was

519
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: interesting because you look like the typical, you know vision

520
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: we have of a homeless vet on the side of

521
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: the street. And then what the rest of the film

522
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: begins to do is unpack that and show who this

523
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: guy is as a human being, and it'll make you

524
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: think the next time. And I am guilty of it

525
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: as well. Seeing the guy on the side of the

526
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: street and you're trying not to look at him or

527
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: not to pay attention. This film unpacks that and and

528
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: starts to say, well, who is this guy? What led

529
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: him to get to this place? Yeah, I mean it's

530
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: that's that's the movie. I mean, that's what I because

531
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 1: also I wanted you I want you to you know,

532
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: I want you to obviously know and love this guy.

533
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: So there's comedy in the film, is some goofy comedy

534
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: that I think it is hilarious and and uh, but

535
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, but you also need to unravel everything and

536
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: see his potential and you know, and and show that

537
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 1: something you know, as simple as a motorcycle man as

538
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: a means of transportation, you know, is an absolute, uh

539
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, key to this guy's freedom. It's the door

540
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: to his freedom, and uh and in it, in it,

541
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: in it provides him so many opportunities, and when he

542
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: loses it, he's back where restarted. So it's really you know, uh,

543
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: I just didn't want to Hollywood, you know, I didn't

544
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: want to make the Hollywood version of this thing. I

545
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: didn't want to I didn't want people to have to

546
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: sit through two hours of watching somebody suffer it's not

547
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: that it's not a combat film, although there's little pieces

548
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: of like stylized combat in there. But it's uh but uh,

549
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: you know, but it's but it's it's it's it's you know,

550
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: it's a story, and I hope that it inspires soldiers

551
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: to come forward and ask for help. You know that

552
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: those that are because I know that, uh in my experience,

553
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, because my base of friends is largely military,

554
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: and you know, I know that that you know, at

555
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: certain points that you know, people there there there was

556
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: a stigma attached to coming forward. I think that I

557
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: think we've chipped away at that a little bit. But

558
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, I know that soldiers, you know, it's it's

559
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: here's the thing. It's not a show of weakness to

560
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: ask for help. That's the bottom line. You know. So

561
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: so when you understand that, you know, you go to

562
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: Warriors Hard, go walk through that facility. You know there's

563
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: some like big that you know, look like that. You know,

564
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: they're the ones that are you know, are on the

565
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: front lines, you know, while running into the fire, into

566
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: the fight. You know, so these are guys that have

567
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: that have that have decided to come forward and ask

568
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: for help. So it's not wrong. And uh, and yeah,

569
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: I just hope people support that. I know they won't.

570
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: And the people who go and seek out that treatment

571
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: at places like Warrior Heart or or going through treatment

572
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: process at v A. I've seen guys make this transition

573
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: where it's like from night to day. Like you said before,

574
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: you know that that it's like they get their life back.

575
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: It's just incredible. Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's amazing

576
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: what they're doing. I I I was there. I went

577
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: to do the Drinking Bros. Podcast in Texas and uh,

578
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: and anyway, I went to the facility with my buddy

579
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: and and then we you know, we pulled over on

580
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: the side of the road and and uh and just

581
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: sat there and just sat there in his truck, you know,

582
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: and and uh it uh it's uh, it's heavy. It's heavy,

583
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: and it's and it's and it's uh and it's beautiful.

584
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: You know. Well, I also want to hit you up

585
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: about you mentioned the humor in the film too. On

586
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: the wider side being mistaken for Brian Cranston. Is that

587
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: actually a thing? Well, here's the thing. It's like I

588
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: right now look nothing like Brian Cranston, and he's older

589
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: than me. So but the but at one point I

590
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: shaved my head and I had to go to the

591
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: and people were coming up to me left and right, going,

592
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: you look so much like this guy, Like I can't

593
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: you know? And so, uh, you know, I wanted to.

594
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: I wanted a running joke in there. So I you know,

595
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: obviously I have this this beard that uh that you know,

596
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: I didn't even know I could grow anything like this.

597
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean it's like a fucking massive mind, that narrow face.

598
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: And uh. And I found a photo of Brian Cranston

599
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: online that with the exact same beard, and so I

600
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: think in the movie, when you see the two photos,

601
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, then it sells the you know, the mistaken identity.

602
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: But um, but yeah, you know, and I in the

603
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: actress that that's in the film pulls it off. Man.

604
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: I mean I sat her down. I was like, look,

605
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: if you don't sell this, the movie is gonna fail miserably.

606
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: So she's she sold this shit out of it. As

607
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: as a guy who deals with voices, the thing that

608
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,479
Speaker 1: I noticed is is havingk Max says the same voice

609
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: as Pat McNamara, very very similar. I don't know if

610
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: you're familiar with Pat Okay, so yeah, he's a former

611
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: DEBTA guy, but you guys have that same deep, raspy voice.

612
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: But all right, let's get it done. Yeah, if you

613
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: get a chance to hear his stuff, you'll you'll hear it.

614
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: But um, I was also wondering. I mean, there's been

615
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: a few films here and there in Hollywood speaking about

616
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: these same issues that have gotten a big push. Um.

617
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: The one that comes to mind for me is thank

618
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: you for your service. One of our writers, Alex, got

619
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: to meet with the people behind that film. So I'm

620
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: just wondering, what do you think separates um well Gardner

621
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: from a film like that. Well, I mean, I would

622
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: say the charitable effort, you know, I mean, I honestly

623
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm sad to say I haven't seen that movie. But

624
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: uh but you know, look, I mean, uh, I guess

625
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: I should see it. I I um, you know, I

626
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: was there was there a charitable ever behind that that

627
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about, but I just I know

628
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: it was another film dealing with, you know, the struggle

629
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: of veterans coming back. Yeah. I haven't seen it either,

630
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: so I really couldn't even comment either. Yeah, I don't know,

631
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: man to tell you the truth. Um, I just I

632
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: think the big thing for us is, you know, is

633
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: the give back, you know, and and so you know, look,

634
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, as as an actor, entertainer, musician,

635
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Speaker 1: whatever you got, you have the eyes and ears of

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Speaker 1: so many people, you know, and and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: you can do so much good with it, or you

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Speaker 1: can just be you know, a self absorbed you know, uh, narcissist.

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Speaker 1: You know that that you know. I mean, so the

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Speaker 1: it's the opportunity, you know, to do something with your

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Speaker 1: celebrity is there, you know. So uh the fact that

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Speaker 1: is really a mind blowing to me. But anyway, hopefully we'll,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll lead the way in a new uh

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Speaker 1: a new effort you know. Got you And as I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: the Blue ray and DVD come out February. Any cool

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Speaker 1: features on that that for people who have seen the

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Speaker 1: film that they will get to check out. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of interviews, some great interviews at the end

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Speaker 1: of the of the DVD in the Blue Ray. Uh,

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Speaker 1: my producing partner Mike Hagerty. His wife is Purnames Laura

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Speaker 1: Oakman and she's an NFL on field reporter. Uh if

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Speaker 1: you when you see her, everybody, you know, if you're

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Speaker 1: a football fanual no. Uh, she conducts these interviews that

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Speaker 1: are just they're really wonderful. So there's that. I think

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Speaker 1: we may have put in a deleted scene. Don't quote me,

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Speaker 1: but I think so. But anyway, Yeah, so the nineteenth

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Speaker 1: that come they those come out. You can pre order

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Speaker 1: now on Amazon. The movie is still available on vo

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Speaker 1: d and and you know any of the digital platforms, Amazon, iTunes,

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Speaker 1: all that. So Max, while we have you here, of course,

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Speaker 1: we have to probe a little bit. Can we get

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Speaker 1: you to leak any details about these next projects you're

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Speaker 1: so the so I'm doing a movie called Coyote, which

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Speaker 1: is part of a deal that I made with the

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Speaker 1: company that bought Will Gardner. And it's kind of like

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Speaker 1: a No Country for Old Men meets Charles Bronson. I

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Speaker 1: with this uh, these gang bangers and and uh and

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Speaker 1: I just lay waste for two hours. So if you're

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Speaker 1: an action film gun guy, you'll love that. And then

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Speaker 1: uh uh and then the other film is something that

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Speaker 1: man I you know, I wasn't sure I was gonna

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Speaker 1: like it, and it's so funny. Uh it's called The

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Speaker 1: Manson Brothers Midnight Zombie Mass and it's uh, it's I'm

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Speaker 1: just directing that and it's it's like underground w w

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Speaker 1: E type wrestlers meet meets to these infected fans and

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Speaker 1: it's just that's the office. Oh god, it's amazing. There's

680
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Speaker 1: definitely a market for that because that reminds me of

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Speaker 1: that what was it Helen Color versus night Wolves or well,

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Speaker 1: do you know what I'm talking about. There's a total

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Speaker 1: market for Yeah, my my friend Sam actually on his

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Speaker 1: birthday he rented out of theater and uh in Yonkers

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Speaker 1: and we all saw that. So yeah, yeah, so I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do those. I leave in about a week

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Speaker 1: and a half and and uh, we're just we're gonna

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Speaker 1: knock him out back to back. So yeah, So those

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Speaker 1: will come out. Coyote will come out next year and

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Speaker 1: probably as the same for The Manson Brothers. Nice, very

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Speaker 1: cool man. So I mean that's like a departure from

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Speaker 1: this film, but this is what you're promoting, of course,

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Speaker 1: So everybody preorder it. It'll be out in just a

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Speaker 1: few days from when you hear this is the Blu

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Speaker 1: ray and DVD February nineteen of Sergeant Wild Gardner. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Max is on Twitter and Instagram at Max Martini l

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Speaker 1: A anything else man, this has been apply here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my pleasure. And and uh and like you said, longtime coming.

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Speaker 1: I've been dying to get on the show. And I

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Speaker 1: love what you guys do. So thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for helping promote the film. It's a huge assist. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and yeah, please go see it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, the work has been done. If just you know,

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Speaker 1: if you if you, if you put eyes on it,

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Speaker 1: you're helping our our cause. And and uh and I

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Speaker 1: just thank everybody out there that's a veteran for what

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Speaker 1: they've done for this country. Nice man. We'd we'd have

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Speaker 1: to have you back on. I mean, one of our

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Speaker 1: recent guests is a former marine who just got a

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Speaker 1: recurring role in a True Detective and we kind of

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Speaker 1: got into veterans making transition. Michael Broderick. Yeah, he's a

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Speaker 1: plenty of mine. Yeah, and his wife if we've known

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Speaker 1: it forever. Yeah, So we were discussing, Yeah, the transition

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Speaker 1: of veterans to Hollywood. So maybe if we have you

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Speaker 1: back on, we can get more into that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: shortage of guys in the military who want to do

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for taking some time out of your

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Speaker 1: day for us today, Max, and um, I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to finish watching the film tonight. I won't go tear

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Speaker 1: can't take another beating. Thank you, appreciate it. Man. Hey,

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