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Speaker 1: Coming up on the Booth Review from the stadium. That

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Speaker 1: was not pretty of what happened on that field behind us.

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Speaker 2: Not at all, man, But you gotta figure this thing out, man,

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Speaker 2: and figure it out before we go to Spain.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into the latest edition of the Booth Review podcast

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Speaker 1: Ibram Weinstein with London Fletcher Logan Paulson. We are presented

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Speaker 1: by Microsoft co Pilot plus PC and we are not

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Speaker 1: in the Big Bear AI Command Center studio because we

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Speaker 1: are still at Northwest Stadium right after the Commander's lost

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Speaker 1: to the Lions. We can't do it in the studio

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Speaker 1: because we're flying to Spain this week. So this is

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Speaker 1: more of an instant reaction than it is really a review. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: we haven't reviewed the film yet.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna be pretty, though, Nah, it's not gonna

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Speaker 2: be pretty, especially when you look at the defensive side

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Speaker 2: of the ball.

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Speaker 3: Detroit.

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Speaker 2: They were able to do whatever they wanted, whether it

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Speaker 2: was running a football, passing the passing the ball. I

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Speaker 2: got explosive plays in the past game and a run game,

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Speaker 2: and I thought we'd have a game plan device where

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Speaker 2: we'd be able to take away something we didn't stop

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Speaker 2: to run, and that opened up so many different things

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Speaker 2: in the past a game, whether his plays should pass

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Speaker 4: Field, Yeah, I mean I agree.

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Speaker 5: I think that's the thing is, like, there are things

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Speaker 5: to be optimistic about. Offensively, I think one of the

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Speaker 5: things that I was concerned about is like, how do

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Speaker 5: you win versus man coverage? How do you run the football?

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Speaker 5: How do you maximize personnel versus man coverage? And I

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Speaker 5: thought it was cool to see Cliff kind of understand

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Speaker 5: the tests and then kind of put the guys in

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Speaker 5: the best position to be successful. And now was it

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Speaker 5: amazing the best offensive all time?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 5: But did it under did understand its restrictions and how

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Speaker 5: to insulate them? And I'd insulate a quarterback, I thought, yes.

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Speaker 5: I think defensively that's the area that yes, there's not

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Speaker 5: there's not a lot of room for anything optimistic. And again,

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Speaker 5: like I'm a very positive person. But the thing is

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Speaker 5: is like you came in and say, can we stop

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Speaker 5: the run? No, it leads to all of these kind

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Speaker 5: of explosive plays down the field. We're still misfitting runs.

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Speaker 5: Like those things that have kind of been lingering in

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Speaker 5: the last couple of weeks are still at the forefront

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Speaker 5: and it's just incredibly fresh. And to put another to

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Speaker 5: put a caveat on that, I think it's important to

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Speaker 5: acknowledge all the injuries that they suffered in this game.

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Speaker 5: People getting injected. You know, it's not easy. But like

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Speaker 5: I think you saw kind of a version of the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the offense is I was pleased with what the

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed was I talked about last week we

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Speaker 3: I talked about getting four tight ends satsin. Yeah, we

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Speaker 3: were running the football. We'll even get into four tight ends.

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Speaker 6: We had three tight end three at the start of the.

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Speaker 2: Game, we had we had three tight ends and Deebo Savvy,

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Speaker 2: some tests running football, and then we were able to,

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Speaker 2: and things like that. And guys made plays too. But defensively,

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Speaker 2: you know who Detroit is. You know what they want

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Speaker 2: Their offense starts with being able to stop those guys

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Speaker 2: although we haven't had opportunity to review the FAM, I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think the other thing too, is like

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Speaker 5: also like you know, Deron Pain's usually a big part

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Speaker 5: And that's all speculation, but I do think it's important

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Speaker 6: Tell you it did happen on the third touchdown drive?

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Speaker 5: So, but so like how many points they score, Bram

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Speaker 5: they scored forty points, right, So this is a long

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Speaker 5: football game. We're looking for things to be optimistic about, right,

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Speaker 5: And so what I would say here too is that

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Speaker 5: Quite frankly, and I'm not saying he's the cog that

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Speaker 2: Now he's been He's been the most consistent player from

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Speaker 2: there was a frustration that voted that kind of bubbed

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Speaker 2: he's been in the league long enough to know you

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Speaker 2: can't do that, And I think I think it's a

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Speaker 2: culmination just frustration getting getting the best of it. He's

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Speaker 2: he's a powerful guy. He's not happy with the way

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Speaker 2: the defense has played over the last five weeks. But still,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna read the numbers and really striking the

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Speaker 1: That was a season worst. They've given up over four

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Speaker 1: Detroit just was running out the clock for the last

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Speaker 1: I think, to your point, who did they take away?

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Speaker 1: And this has been a recurring theme if you go

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Speaker 2: Yet based on a number, since you just ran off

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Speaker 2: nobody again, I know I've been on some teams where

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Speaker 2: we've had personnel issues where you're kind of half strong,

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Speaker 2: figure out how can we get these fires put out?

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Speaker 2: We got to put out some type of fire because

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Speaker 3: The dam has broken and they're just doing whatever they

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it felt overwhelming like watching it, you know, like

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Speaker 5: there was a kind of Dan Campbell I like watching offenses,

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Speaker 5: you weren't able to upset any kind of rhythm offensively.

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Speaker 5: And when you look at even defenses that have struggled

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Speaker 5: you know, and there are some things again that the

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have to match them score for scoring and.

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Speaker 5: And I look at you know, last year, what made

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Speaker 5: the offense is banged up, right, we got a backup quarterback,

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Speaker 5: we got guys that were not with teams a couple

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Speaker 2: Again, you'll you'll continue to look and say, we still

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Speaker 3: We gotta figure out something. You got to figure out something.

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Speaker 2: We're getting ready to play a Dolphins team that beat

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Speaker 2: now you're able to possess the ball longer, you're able

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Speaker 2: And again, I thought the offense did a really good job.

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Speaker 2: If fourth and one, he's gonna go for it. But

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Speaker 2: Fourthune fourth Une five, He was like, man, but what's

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Speaker 5: When I think about the first offensive drive, the first

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Speaker 5: the game's over, you know what I mean? Like that's

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Speaker 5: They just got to kind of keep turning over rocks

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Speaker 5: let's start with just sure we take the runaway, right.

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Speaker 2: I would say this, maybe when you're running the offense

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Speaker 2: Keep looking in and just continue to work. We got

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, look at don't look at their record.

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Speaker 5: And it's funny, like I had to do. We have

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Speaker 5: He's like the closest back to Gibbs you're gonna find

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Speaker 2: I mean Detroit, you've had to actually walk to You

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Speaker 3: I mean, I liked I like to added walk throughs.

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Speaker 2: Players have to also do some things where they's watching film,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that I would just piggyback off

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Speaker 5: you know, personal accountability as a player. And after a

438
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Speaker 5: performance like this, or after a couple of performances like this,

439
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,159
Speaker 5: like I know, you know, like the scheme whatever, but

440
00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,800
Speaker 5: like as a player, you got to say, like me,

441
00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,080
Speaker 5: what can I do to improve this? Because again, like

442
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,720
Speaker 5: if I'm studying extra film and I'm talking looks and

443
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,879
Speaker 5: we're you know, I'm looking to my teammates and saying

444
00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,080
Speaker 5: trying to bring people along, like maybe we get out

445
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 5: of this just by outworking the problem. And I think

446
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,639
Speaker 5: that's what Flutch's getting out. And again that's been my

447
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,119
Speaker 5: experience as a player too, when it gets really dark,

448
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,600
Speaker 5: like you just got to keep walking until it gets

449
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:30,439
Speaker 5: sunny outside.

450
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Speaker 2: I look at it like this, Let's make teams earn

451
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Speaker 2: whatever they're getting against us.

452
00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,640
Speaker 3: If they earn it and.

453
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 2: They beat us, you tip your cap off to us.

454
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Speaker 2: Hey man, got just beat me on this play. They've

455
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,720
Speaker 2: they won their one on one match up, but there's

456
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 2: too many times where we've given them things. We've allowed

457
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 2: them to have these explosives by not having a proper

458
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 2: levage or maybe misfitting the gap, things like that.

459
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Speaker 3: Let's not give them anything. Let's make them earn everything. Guinea.

460
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that side of the ball's been rough and it's

461
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,640
Speaker 1: hard to come up with positives. Right the other side

462
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 1: of the ball, there is a lot that really stands

463
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Speaker 1: out that you know. I think they're at a rough

464
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 1: spot because the defense, especially the last couple of weeks,

465
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 1: literally can't get a stop and the scores are happening

466
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 1: fast but offensively. Marcus Mariota again, every time he starts

467
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 1: this offense works for him. He's extremely comfortable in it

468
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 1: and he operates really effectively in it.

469
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think Marcus is like ven a

470
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Speaker 5: bright spot. But also I think if you're again, we're

471
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Speaker 5: gonna give the offense our flowers here in a second.

472
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Speaker 5: But I do think, like the offense, can we, like

473
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 5: you said, can we better be better on third down?

474
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Speaker 4: Can we possess the football?

475
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 5: Can we try to alleviate some of this like avalanche

476
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,360
Speaker 5: slide that we're feeling on the defense. But that being said,

477
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Speaker 5: I do think there's some things that Marcus did really well.

478
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Speaker 5: I like what Clift did, Schematically mentioned that. Also, I

479
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 5: like the emergence of trailing Burk's It was great to

480
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 5: see him in an offense where you're lacking kind of

481
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 5: this vertical horsepower to him to win some stuff down

482
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 5: the field, make them to contested catches, Debo with that

483
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 5: great one handed catch. Like people making plays in the offense,

484
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 5: and I just wish we could have seen more of it,

485
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 5: And I think I think I wish that it would

486
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 5: have been in a more relevant game, you know.

487
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Speaker 4: What I mean?

488
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, that's that's you mentioned guys making plays, and

489
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 2: there were some guys that went out and made plays

490
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Speaker 2: for Marcus Mariota. I thought the coming out with the

491
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 2: three tight ends worked. Really, Hey, really, we got to

492
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Speaker 2: be able to run the football.

493
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Speaker 5: Some different runs too, Like they didn't come out and

494
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 5: run kind of the same stuff. They they there was

495
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 5: a conscious effort to overhaul what we're doing, slow the

496
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 5: game down offensively, find these explosive like there was. The

497
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 5: thought process was clear and it was effective. It was

498
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Speaker 5: cool to see, and it's just unfortunate that they they're

499
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 5: a little short handed still.

500
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Speaker 2: They still, yes, a little shorthanded. But but like you said, Brown,

501
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 2: every time Marcus has has been the starter.

502
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Speaker 3: Yes, and he's had the yea.

503
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Speaker 2: All the week, all the all the work during the

504
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Speaker 2: week with the wance he's gone on and he's playing

505
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 2: well enough.

506
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, they has.

507
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Speaker 1: And two of the receivers to your point about where

508
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: they're finding these spots, they've been here three weeks. Robbie Chosen,

509
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: Trailer Burkes Burks I think was the leading receiver. If

510
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 1: I remember right, he had a like he's putting it

511
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: in the right place. Chosen could have had a touchdown

512
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: in that corner right down there if it wasn't for

513
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: a good maybe miss call.

514
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 6: But good defensive play.

515
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 1: But it was perfectly thrown ball right to a guy

516
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 1: who's probably practiced with three, four or five times. That's it,

517
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: you know, Like so it is like they've been dealt

518
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,719
Speaker 1: a really odd hand from day one. They've never practiced together.

519
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 1: The quarterback's been hurt three times. Terry McLaurin and Noah

520
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 1: Brown have been limited to barely existent participants throughout the

521
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: entire course of the entire thing. And they're still finding

522
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 1: ways to put twenty plus points on the board and

523
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: have still going into this a top five rush offense

524
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: and found ways to make explosive plays with Jalen Lane,

525
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: Trailer Burke and could have had one with Chosen.

526
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Speaker 6: They're figuring it out.

527
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 5: They are figuring out, and again, like that's what you're

528
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 5: encouraged by, like all the things that I was concerned about.

529
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 5: It's like how you're gonna beat man coverage, We're gonna

530
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 5: get in contense formations, We're gonna have some play action shots.

531
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Speaker 5: Great job by Marcus on that quarters read where they're

532
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 5: running the dig he cuts it awesome to jail and

533
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 5: like really like like you're talking about just a guy

534
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 5: that can manage the offense. I think the only thing

535
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 5: that I would be even a little bit critical of

536
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 5: is just the third down efficiency. And the only reason

537
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 5: we're even talking about that is because the defense is

538
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 5: struggling stuff. Right, It's like, you know what I'm saying,

539
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 5: it's just can we can? You like, as an offensive player,

540
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 5: always like is there anything we can do to year?

541
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Speaker 2: It was like when we had the first field goal

542
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 2: that we had to settle for, we had a third

543
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 2: and ten. Yeah, moving to football, we get the false star.

544
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: False star put is in third and fifteen, and we

545
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 2: got eight yards. But now you are looking at fourth

546
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 2: and seven as opposed to you get that same eight yards.

547
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: How you have fourth and two.

548
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: You're not gonna go forward and fourth to seven and

549
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: you haven't scored it to any points yet, but fourth

550
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 2: and two, yeah, he probably don't go forward situation.

551
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 4: And I think you should.

552
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 5: I think one of the things like that, you know,

553
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 5: was so helpful last year, and we talked about this

554
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 5: in the pregame show, was the ability to convert on

555
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 5: at a high fourth down per centage last year. So

556
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 5: can we get sixty percent of that? And I think

557
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 5: some of these offensive possessions will kind of flip in

558
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 5: our favor and we'll be in a good spot.

559
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: So on the run game, they did stick to it

560
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: despite what was going on today, twenty seven carries ninety

561
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: three yards. That's only three point four a carry, So

562
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: there's been a there's been a change with that, and

563
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: I attribute a lot of that to all the fluidity

564
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: on the outside that the personnel changes out there are

565
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: going to alter the way a defense is going to

566
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: look and be threatened by this offense. But the team

567
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: has talked about that they want to get better producing

568
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: in their run game, and I thought the run game

569
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: wasn't bad today, but it's not doing what they wanted

570
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: to do. So what do you say about there?

571
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have to go back and watch the film

572
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 5: for the run game specifically, but I think you're seeing

573
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 5: today what I felt is you've I felt the run

574
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 5: name that did a good job, especially when Sea rods

575
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 5: in there, of just keeping you on schedule. We're not

576
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 5: taking negative runs or neutral runs. And people say I

577
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 5: was at a big deal. It's a huge deal because

578
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 5: third and seven is a or second and seven is

579
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 5: a functional down and distance for the offense. We still

580
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 5: got a quick game, we got keepers, we got everything's

581
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 5: on the table right And is that a great run?

582
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 5: Not necessarily, but I do think that efficiency you feel

583
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 5: that when he's in there, and so I think you

584
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 5: got nick today, right, is that?

585
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

586
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: He end up, Yes he did. You know, they didn't

587
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 3: mention what it was, but I don't catch the interest.

588
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 5: So that's something that is a little concerning to me

589
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 5: because I think Bill Crossey Merrit's done a really nice job,

590
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 5: but I think he's better in that supplemental role. So

591
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 5: like again getting Sea Rob, maybe McNichols gets some more touches.

592
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 5: I thought he ran the ball well tonight. It's just

593
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 5: that that efficiency I think is so so important.

594
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, Bill has this explosive.

595
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 4: Shoulder, Jason saying it was a shoulder.

596
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: Bill has the explosive element to him. He's exciting to watch.

597
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: I think when they were talking last week about not

598
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: taking interesting give them a little bit, I think they

599
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: were kind of nodding to him a little bit times

600
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: where they.

601
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Speaker 3: It was it was blocked.

602
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 4: That's a good point.

603
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he just follows his blockers, he'll probably get five, six,

604
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: even seven or eight yards with his But he has

605
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: such great vision. He may see a defensive tackle pop

606
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: a block and he's like, oh shoot, I can go

607
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 2: out the back door, not realizing he got a safety

608
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: rotating Now, so the minute he goes out the back door,

609
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: he's getting a two yard game. But if you would

610
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 2: have stayed front side, he probably would have got an

611
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 2: eight yard carrier.

612
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Speaker 3: And he's a young back, and so I thought today

613
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: he stuck with it.

614
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: The point about what I why it wasn't four or

615
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 2: five yards per carry. It was the volume of RUSS

616
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 2: that it keeps the defense having to respect you in

617
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 2: terms of, hey, they will run the football against us,

618
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: and now you're able to get a play action pass

619
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 2: for forty one yards to Jalen laying down the field.

620
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 2: So just the simple fact that you stuck with it

621
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: and we stuck with it, it makes a difference.

622
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 5: And when you bring all those bodies in, people think, oh,

623
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 5: that's how you run the football. It does get because

624
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 5: there's just more run players there. The corners are closer,

625
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 5: the safeties are closer, and it helps with some of

626
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 5: the passing game. But I do think that's leading to

627
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 5: some of these rushing numbers that are a little bit

628
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 5: less efficient than we have.

629
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and on some of the bigger shots where the

630
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: ball is going where it looked like it should be,

631
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: some of them were being hit the Laane Catch was outstanding.

632
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 4: A great job by him, right, Like, great to see

633
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 4: that from you.

634
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 6: Great's him the Burks plays.

635
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: Cliff said something else earlier in the week that really

636
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: kind of stuck out to me heading into this game,

637
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: and kind of I saw it tonight where he said,

638
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: you know, all of these guys, they most of them

639
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: either weren't here or weren't in these roles, and we're

640
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: now three four weeks into them being in them.

641
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

642
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, So suddenly like they had a preseason and now

643
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 1: they're being asked to fill these roles and there's just

644
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: a comfort level that feels different, and I think you

645
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: saw a little bit of that. It gets lost in

646
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: what the score is, in how you know the defense

647
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: was incapable of getting any kind of stop whatsoever, But

648
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: there was a lot of that feeling to me that

649
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: there was a control to this, even though you might

650
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: not have been accustomed to the people that were running

651
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: all these plays.

652
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 5: Do you think that that's something that the defense could

653
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 5: get like kind of three weeks of consistent personnel to

654
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 5: get them back on track, because like even tonight, like

655
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 5: the two starting corners are out, Marshaun's out here on

656
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 5: you know, what I mean is that maybe something we

657
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Speaker 5: could expect to see from them, like because again, like

658
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Speaker 5: you feel it with the offense, I as the guys

659
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 5: have been in their roles longer, the production has gotten better.

660
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Speaker 5: Even with the offensive line and cosmic getting in there,

661
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 5: you feel that continuity just a little bit better. I

662
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Speaker 5: don't know, is it something with the defense.

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Speaker 2: It can't happen like that, but again you mentioned it,

664
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Speaker 2: like the guys have to play more than one week together,

665
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Speaker 2: you know, you got to.

666
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: Have the same safety.

667
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 2: You got to have the same corners, same linebackers, especially

668
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: when you're talking about fitting up combination routes covering different things.

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00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: The communication, knowing how a guy like if I'm working

670
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: with Logan all the time against a certain stack formation

671
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: and him and I have done this a hundred times,

672
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Speaker 2: we know, without even saying anything to each other, how

673
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna both play it. But if we got three

674
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: reps gets his play, we're not. We don't know what

675
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Speaker 2: each other is gonna do. And also from a run

676
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: fit standpoint, a lot of times those corners they're part

677
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: of the run fit and also the safety. So knowing

678
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: that hey, my safety, he may be lined up twelve

679
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: yards deep and I don't feel him, but I know

680
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: he's gonna be coming and I can trust him to

681
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: fit where he's supposed to fit when the ball is snap.

682
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: But if I don't, if I'm not sure, is he

683
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: gonna stay back or whatever. So now I'm trying to

684
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: do my job in do his job. Yeah, and that's

685
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Speaker 2: how you get to get big.

686
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like on offense they're figuring it

687
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: out and maybe it's taking some time because there's new

688
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: parts and they're asked to do different roles that it's

689
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 1: starting to come together to whatever degree it can. On

690
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball, the larger question is

691
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: our guy's not making plays. Are they not put in

692
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: the position to make the plays that they need to make?

693
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: Is it a combination of both? And that's the what

694
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: we're talking about, like the dam opened up and everything

695
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: fell apart, Because it doesn't feel like that, like we're

696
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: on the same page.

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Speaker 5: I think it's probably, you know, like all things, it's

698
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 5: probably a combination.

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00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 6: Of everything, combination of everything.

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00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 5: Scheme again, and when it's as as difficult to watch

701
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 5: as it was the last couple of weeks, it's got

702
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 5: to be a version of that right. It's a little

703
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 5: bit of the players, a little bit of coaching, a

704
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 5: little bit, the scheme a little bit, the reps a

705
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 5: little bit, the injuries and when you put that all

706
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 5: on a big messy plot like you've.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're on defensive end number four, there's like

708
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: a reasonable you know, I think there's a reasonable thing

709
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: to get to look at and go, well, that's going

710
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: to be a deficiency.

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00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 6: Now.

712
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: However, one void in one spot should not mean four

713
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: hundred plus yards five hundred plus yards and team never punting,

714
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: never getting get turnover, never get to get sack like that.

715
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: I just believe it starts with the inability to stop

716
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: to run. Yeah, and we just didn't have enough disruption

717
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: against this. Uh, I guess their run game, not enough

718
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: negative artist players, not enough penetration and losing pay, not

719
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Speaker 2: having defensive ads that you've brought in to stop the

720
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: raw set those hard edges. So you're running his outside

721
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: zone and you got to Dietrich wise out there setting

722
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: a hard edge. Now the run is no longer stretching you. Why,

723
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: so he's holding it, constricting everything and restricting everything. And

724
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: now you've got linebackers and everybody trying to getting down

725
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: heel and things like that.

726
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 4: And that's such a good point.

727
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 5: And I know we're getting ready to rap, but like

728
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 5: you know, you got kin Law and Gerson who are

729
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 5: more penetrating ends. And when you're penetrating in an outside

730
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 5: zone with a ton of stretch, it creates vertical creases, right,

731
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 5: And so imagine if if Dietrich was here, if Dorns

732
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 5: was here, if these guys that we're talking about are

733
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 5: here and they penetrate and now all of a sudden,

734
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Speaker 5: those are tackles for loss as opposed to it just

735
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 5: and and every team is negotiating injuries, so we're not

736
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 5: making excuses. But it is something that you I empathize

737
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 5: with Joe Witt because he's having to overcome a lot

738
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 5: and the players are having to overcome a lot right

739
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 5: now to get it right, and hopefully they get it

740
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 5: right all right.

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Speaker 6: Last thing, what are you looking forward to in Spain?

742
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 4: The most I'm looking hang out with you? How are

743
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 4: we going to a museum or someone?

744
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: Do we definitely go to a museum. My wife is

745
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: brought well, you're not gonna like this part. My wife

746
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: has brought up flamenco dancing a.

747
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 4: Lot I think we're doing it. I think I'm doing.

748
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: Are you talking to nine and a couple of guys.

749
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna, uh, we're gonna do some flamenco dance.

750
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Speaker 4: You are for the show? You want to come?

751
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll say this.

752
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Winstein, here's something you guys didn't know about me.

753
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 4: You're a good dancer.

754
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I love ur.

755
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: And the mere fact that you two were talking about

756
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: going to look at art without me, I'm kind of

757
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: a Finch show.

758
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 6: Let's go. When we were in l A, I went

759
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 6: to the broad that was Renaissance man.

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00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's talk. Go to the museum. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: with the museum time overview.

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Speaker 3: I'm not working when I'm at the art museum. I'm

763
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: doing it. I'm going to enjoy the art. Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to Spain. We'll do this again, I

765
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: think in Madrid right after the game. I guess you

766
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: know we're doing Yeah, we will, So we'll do that,

767
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: all right, see it then,