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Speaker 1: I'm Ron Ananian. I'm old, all right, I'm older. I

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Speaker 1: remember General Motors making engines go three hundred thousand miles,

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Speaker 1: and now we've got engine's bed at sixty thousand miles.

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Speaker 1: They're leaking oil from the porosity of the casting because

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Speaker 1: the casting with before I got top topsland down forty nine.

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Speaker 1: The Car Doctor to try to check trans oil in

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Speaker 1: this twenty sixteen Chevy Coloradoctor and it's just isn't that great?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What are they think of?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of Ronanian, the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

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Speaker 3: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 3: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 3: the phone and call in.

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Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to

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Speaker 1: take your call at eighty five five five six ninety

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Speaker 1: nine hundred and now he.

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Speaker 3: Running.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about, you know,

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Speaker 1: fixing older cars and procedure and you know, what would

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Speaker 1: you do. We had a two thousand and two Chrysler

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Speaker 1: this week, Chrysler three hundred m You know, two thousand

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Speaker 1: and two was a little bit longer than yesterday ago,

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Speaker 1: and it came in with a P zero four to

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Speaker 1: four two, an EVAPP system fault. Now this is the

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Speaker 1: proverbial little old lady's car, and we see it once

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Speaker 1: in a blue moon. We actually see the sun this

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Speaker 1: car much more often because he drives a lot more

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Speaker 1: than mom. And you know, he knew that she was

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Speaker 1: having a problem. She goes to a local mechanic closer

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Speaker 1: to her house than us. And you know, when there's

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Speaker 1: a problem, we tend to be the fireman, which is okay.

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Speaker 1: We you know, we like being in that capacity for

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Speaker 1: someone in this situation, just trying to help them. God

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Speaker 1: bless them. Let him keep driving, right, let him enjoy life.

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Speaker 1: So it came down to us. Now, you know, the

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Speaker 1: fellow that's closer the other I'm sorry, the other shop

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Speaker 1: that she'd been going to that's closer to her. They

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Speaker 1: did some things to it. I'm not really quite sure.

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Speaker 1: And you know it ends up on my doorstep. So

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Speaker 1: you know, job's job, right, what I always tell you,

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Speaker 1: a job's job diagnosed, Like you got a diagnose, and

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Speaker 1: you know, sign the repair order, put it in my

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Speaker 1: rack and it's my lot and away I go P

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Speaker 1: zero four to four too. It's a it's a it's

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Speaker 1: an EVAPP system fault failure for a two hundred Chrysler

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Speaker 1: REM three hundred M. And I go through the usual

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Speaker 1: machine hookup. They do give you the test port, but

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Speaker 1: it's kind of buried down the driver's side and you

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Speaker 1: if you have a fat little hand like I do sometimes.

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Speaker 1: And I've noticed my hands are getting bigger. That's another

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Speaker 1: story though. I think. I think working on cars for

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Speaker 1: flattened out like pancakes. But you know, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: a deal. So I let me, let me do a

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Speaker 1: look over. It's an older car, and I look it over,

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Speaker 1: and you know, there's cobwebs underneath it. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: just it's just, you know, it just doesn't do anything.

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Speaker 1: And the gas cap was loose. And I usually don't

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Speaker 1: like to touch gas caps because I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I'm hiding the problem, ignoring the problem, creating a problem.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather smoke it, but smoking it would have it

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Speaker 1: was a little counterproductive because my concern was putting my

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Speaker 1: hand down there to get to the port. As brittle

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Speaker 1: as everything was, as old as this is, you know

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Speaker 1: And sometimes there's a balance, you know, there's a rationale,

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Speaker 1: there's a reason why you do what you do. So

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Speaker 1: I tightened the cap. I made sure it was good

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Speaker 1: cot had some vitality to it, so I knew it

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Speaker 1: would get a good seal. I cleared codes and then

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Speaker 1: using my scan tool, because I can do this all right,

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Speaker 1: and it's telling me that it would pass. Is that

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's my question to you as we kick

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Speaker 1: you know, possibly compromise something else? And you know, there

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Speaker 1: are moments in the life of a mechanic where you're

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Speaker 1: always making a judgment call to the best of your ability.

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Speaker 1: It's ethical dilemmas and judgment calls. It seems like you

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Speaker 1: spend your day doing that. And in the long run,

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Speaker 1: I was right because the vehicle ran, its monitor passed

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Speaker 1: She was away at a family wedding, family trip, and

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Speaker 1: driving a two thousand and two christ or three hundred them.

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Speaker 1: He was so excited all week and he wanted to

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Speaker 1: get back to his Volkswagon. But that's another story. I

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Speaker 1: have a good Volkswagon story for you too this hour.

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Speaker 1: And you know the ethical dilemma, the ethical question, I

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Speaker 1: guess it's what procedures do you follow? And will you

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Speaker 1: follow the same procedures for every car? I think eighty

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Speaker 1: to ninety percent of the time, you're going to follow

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Speaker 1: the same diagnostic rules of the road, same diagnostic procedures

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Speaker 1: every time. But there's always going to be that car.

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Speaker 1: That's the exception. There's always going to be that guy

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Speaker 1: that's sixty eight years old, works out at the gym.

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Speaker 1: He's in good physical condition, but you still question whether

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Speaker 1: or not he's borderline heart attack, and you're going to

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Speaker 1: do a different procedure on him that you might do.

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Speaker 1: I'm the guy that's thirty eight in that kind of condition,

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Speaker 1: in that kind of a situation, there's always a different

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Speaker 1: way to look at it. Now, maybe in the case

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Speaker 1: more stricter because obviously it's life and death, whereas it's

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Speaker 1: not like that with a car, although sometimes you and

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Speaker 1: people talk about their cars, and maybe it is life

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Speaker 1: and death. I'm not really quite sure, but you get

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Speaker 1: the point. So anyway, let's let's go and talk to

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Speaker 1: Let's open the phones. Let's go to Craig in Tennessee. Craig, just,

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Speaker 1: first question, first start out of my mouth, is are

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Speaker 1: you safe where you are in Tennessee? And are you

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Speaker 1: affected by the rain.

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Speaker 2: Well? Fortunately, here, Ron, and frankly, I want to tell

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Speaker 2: you love you love your show, and I've been listening

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Speaker 2: to you since you probably started and you know we're

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Speaker 2: safe here in I Sale. The weather was a lot

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Speaker 2: and we want to pray for those people.

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Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely absolutely So how can I help you today, sir?

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Speaker 2: Well, I've got a ninety one Ranger, same same time

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Speaker 2: you started your show, and probably the reason I still

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Speaker 2: have that Ranger might be because of your show. It's

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Speaker 2: my first truck I bought new right and I love it.

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Speaker 2: It's a V six four liter long bed and uh,

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Speaker 2: pretty much everything has changed out in it. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to get this truck forever. It's not a truck I'm

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Speaker 2: ever gonna get rid of. I'll keep it joy die.

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Speaker 2: So it's got new transmission, new clutch, new engine, new everything,

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Speaker 2: except it doesn't have a new fuel tank. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: have a new fuel pump. And the other day I

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Speaker 2: was taking it to get new bearings and getting some

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Speaker 2: other work done on it, and it started bopping around

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Speaker 2: and acting like the fuel pump was breaking all right,

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Speaker 2: So I took it to the shop which I trust,

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Speaker 2: and they actually came back and said, we ran out

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Speaker 2: my gas gage doesn't work on that truck, because I

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Speaker 2: understand to replace a gas gage is a pretty big job.

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Speaker 1: Well is it the gauge or is it the sending unit?

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Speaker 2: Well, if they checked, I've had a check. It's a gauge, okay.

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Speaker 2: Or no, I'm sorry, it's a sending unit.

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Speaker 1: All right, Okay. I mean you know it's.

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Speaker 2: Easy if you in other words, they have to either

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Speaker 2: drop the tank or take off the bed and do

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Speaker 2: whatever they have to do.

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Speaker 1: And if you want to, if you want to do this,

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Speaker 1: Ron's way. I say, take the bed off, and I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you why. Yeah, I take the bed off. It

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Speaker 1: all right, I take the bed off. I would I

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Speaker 1: would do that. If your question to me is what

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Speaker 1: would I do? Is that your qu Let me ask you.

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Speaker 1: I'll let you ask the question.

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Speaker 2: That's my question. Yeah, that's my question. So what I

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Speaker 2: would drive in this truck and always feel, you know,

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Speaker 2: comfortable in my truck? Is my favorite truck? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I get it. Hey, listen, sometimes cars are like an

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Speaker 1: old shoe, you know, they just they just they just fit,

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Speaker 1: you know. I I love wearing my old sneakers around

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Speaker 1: the house. I have to hide them from my wife

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Speaker 1: because she keeps throwing them out because they're just broken in.

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Speaker 1: That's a whole nother conversation.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, I keep throwing out I hadn't.

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Speaker 1: Thought of that. That's revenge. Although I can't listen as

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Speaker 1: an aside, I can't really complain about her, because you know,

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Speaker 1: she's the reason I'm on radio. And someday I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you guys that story how she threw out my raincoat,

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Speaker 1: and that's what really got me on national radio. But

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Speaker 1: that's a god's honest, true story. I would take the

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Speaker 1: bed up six bolts, if I recall correctly, it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's if the bolts aren't rusted, and if they come loose.

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Speaker 1: I think the bed is often literally thirty minutes or less.

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Speaker 2: But it's got a camper top on in a line

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Speaker 2: or okay, a little more complicated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, but still the idea becomes though, that

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Speaker 1: if you do get the bed up, now you can

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Speaker 1: paint the frame rails, and you can paint everything that's

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Speaker 1: underneath there so it doesn't rust, and you can take

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Speaker 1: a look at brake lines, you can take a look

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Speaker 1: at fuel lines, and you're looking at the top of

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Speaker 1: the fuel tank. There's always so much more of c

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Speaker 1: all right. And you know then at that point, you know,

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Speaker 1: your question was would I put a gas tank in it?

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Speaker 1: And straps and so far?

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the one things I'm scared about RON

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Speaker 2: is that new parts aren't the same as old part.

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Speaker 1: Nope, they aren't.

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Speaker 2: And and the fuel pump is still working, and I'm

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Speaker 2: afraid about changing out something that's not broken.

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Speaker 1: Well, but keep in mind if it is the sending

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Speaker 1: unit in the tank, and the easiest way, the easiest

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Speaker 1: way is if they just disconnect the connector at the

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Speaker 1: sending unit for the gauge for the sender and turn

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Speaker 1: the key on, all right, in does the gas gauge

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Speaker 1: go to full? If the gas gauge goes to full,

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Speaker 1: that shows that the very likelihood that you've got a

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Speaker 1: bad sender. All right. You know, you're going to see

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Speaker 1: like one hundred and forty five homes of resistance across

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Speaker 1: a full tank center and about twenty five homes with

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Speaker 1: an empty tank. If the resistance is low and the

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Speaker 1: fuel level is about empty, you may have a problem

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Speaker 1: with the float. Maybe the float is saturated or it's

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Speaker 2: mean it's pretty old at this point. I obviously it.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Would you replace the tank?

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Speaker 1: Not unless it needed it?

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Speaker 2: Well, how would you know if that was the case.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I would, I would, I would work it

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: With the bed off, everybody goes and looks over the tank,

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's you're making me feel good. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Nah, you don't want to do in January. It's well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Knoxville might be a little warmer than Jersey.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the issue becomes that you know, you

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Speaker 2: But there's there's will I will keep it forever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a price to pay. I wouldn't change

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Speaker 1: to find a pump right now, all right, because it's

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Speaker 1: Ford doesn't make him anymore. So you want to go

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Speaker 2: That's kind of my biggest fear of about thinking something broke.

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Speaker 1: You know. But but listen, you can always keep that

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Speaker 1: I think, how many miles are on this We didn't

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Speaker 2: Oh, the miles on this truck are pretty low. It's

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Speaker 1: If it makes you feel any better, the fuel pump

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Speaker 1: know you're you're you're encroaching that point. Yeah, it's you're

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Speaker 1: So changing the pump on a mileage time basis and

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Speaker 1: just considering it a fuel tank area overhaul isn't the

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Speaker 1: worst of ideas, Craig, but I would definitely take the

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Speaker 1: better if you'll get a better look at everything and

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Speaker 1: be able to diagnose it. I appreciate the call. Be safe,

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Speaker 1: my brother. I'm running Andy in the car doctor. I'll

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Speaker 5: Gone.

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Speaker 6: Whether it's a little red Corvette or you go, you've

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Speaker 6: Ron and Andy and the car doctor eight five five

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Speaker 6: five six zero nine nine zero zero. Now back to Ron.

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Speaker 1: Hey, let's wander over and let's go talk to David

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Speaker 1: again from Tennessee. David, have things down there Tennessee way

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Speaker 4: A little bit of water flowing right now.

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Speaker 1: I bet so, I bet. Just just be careful and

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Speaker 1: be mindful. I'm sure you are. How can I help

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Speaker 4: Well, we've got a twenty twelve Ford Focus two liter

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Speaker 4: that doesn't want to turn over.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and you know what? Unrelated to the weather? I

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Speaker 1: guess I have to ask that question. Right. We didn't

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Speaker 1: just fish it out of the river. No, yeah, okay?

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Speaker 1: So and I say that in all seriousness, So tell

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Speaker 4: She had been driving it parked her in her driveway,

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Speaker 4: I believe, and it wouldn't start. So she put a

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Speaker 4: When I went and looked at it, it wouldn't turn over.

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Speaker 4: I thought maybe it was just not getting fuel or something.

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Speaker 4: So brought to the shop, pulled the air filter out

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Speaker 4: isn't cranking over very fast. I thought maybe it had

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Speaker 4: After I go ahead and run a compression test. Still

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Speaker 4: It was easy to get to and even hooked up

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Speaker 4: a separate cables directly to the starter to bypass any

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Speaker 4: ground problems that might have had, and still wouldn't turn over.

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Speaker 4: Finally decided to do the easy thing. You got to

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Speaker 4: sock it out and a breaker bar, put it on

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Speaker 4: the front of the crank shaft and can't turn it over,

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Speaker 4: hardly moving it all back and forth. I'm afraid, but

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Speaker 1: Well, if anything, and let's let's let's let's let's go

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Speaker 1: backwards a minute, because your first comment was it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: key and dashlights would come on, but the engine wouldn't revolve.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't it wouldn't move, it wouldn't crank. And then

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Speaker 2: Tries to.

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Speaker 4: Crank a little bit. It will it will, it will

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Speaker 4: move it will. It won't crank over fast enough to

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Speaker 1: Okay, real fact, I don't even know even even with

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Speaker 1: the even with the plugs out, it won't crank correct.

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Speaker 1: All right. So then my next question becomes, I wonder

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Speaker 1: maybe somebody has a clamp on amp gage, just to

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Speaker 1: see what the starter's drawing.

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Speaker 4: Right, And I, yes, we considered that. That's why we hooked.

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Speaker 2: Up the battery.

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Speaker 4: Correct, We've pulled the starter off of it, had the back,

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Speaker 4: had the starter checked out, and that's when I finally

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Speaker 4: put a breaker bar on the front and it cranks. No,

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Speaker 4: it it. I can't even make a I can't even

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Speaker 4: make a quarter of a turn.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So then we've got then we've got to assume

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Speaker 4: I believe she was. I believe she goes at home

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Speaker 4: and parked it. And that's where it's.

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Speaker 1: That's where it's kind of bad. Yeah, all right, tell

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Speaker 1: you what, Sit tight, let me pull over and take this,

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Speaker 1: let me take this pause, David, we'll come back we'll

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Speaker 1: to have here. I'm running ny in the car doctor

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Speaker 1: eight five five five six nine nine zero zero. We'll

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 7: I come in by said, right up, that's just where

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Speaker 1: We are here again. Let's go, David, you're still there,

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Speaker 1: so let let's let's let's let's talk about less because

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Speaker 1: I think less is more on this kind of a repair.

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Speaker 1: All right, spark plugs out. You can't crank it over

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Speaker 1: by hand? All right?

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Speaker 5: Have you?

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Speaker 1: Have you taken the serpentine belt off while you're trying

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Speaker 1: to crank it? Okay? Just on the chance is something binding? Right?

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Speaker 1: Is something stuck? Is the Does the belt have the ability?

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Speaker 1: And it could? All right, I've seen it on older,

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Speaker 1: is more. Okay, that's that's the maxim I want you

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Speaker 1: to keep in your head. Here, take the syrup belt off.

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Speaker 1: It's probably not that, but tell me what's good. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what's bad, all right, and try hand cranking

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Speaker 1: it if it still doesn't crank, then put the transmission

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Speaker 1: in neutral. This should be this should be the dread

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Speaker 4: Trans and and it is a straight shift.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's let's see if we put it in neutral,

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Speaker 1: does that make any difference? And then the last thing

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Speaker 1: undo the torque converter bolts, slide the converter forward, disconnect

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Speaker 1: this way. I'm I'm trying to disconnect the trans from

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Oh, it's a stake, okay. So if you

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Speaker 1: that make it or give it the ability to crank?

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Speaker 4: No difference?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So then I'm going to tell you that the

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Speaker 2: Whatever?

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Speaker 1: It would still crank, all right? If if and I

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Speaker 1: don't know why it would do that. Sitting still right,

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Speaker 1: this car ran she shut it off and then it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't restart.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure I don't think she had it towed in.

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Speaker 4: It's been a while. It's actually been sitting for two

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Speaker 4: So it's.

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Speaker 1: You know, can we can we pull plugs and take

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Speaker 1: if it was towed in, we're probably only getting half

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Speaker 1: the story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I did a leak down test on it. I did

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Speaker 1: Does it hold you no? Okay, well does it hold?

436
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: But you can't get it to you can't get it

437
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 1: to over turn over. So at that.

438
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 4: Point, yeah, I did get a lot of I did

439
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 4: get a lot of air coming out the crank case.

440
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So I think at this point, you know,

441
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: it sounds like whatever happened, it happened to the engine.

442
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: And you know, have you looked to see is the

443
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 1: belt still in place?

444
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 4: Uh? No, I've not. I've not pulled the front cover

445
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 4: off of it.

446
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: Okay.

447
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 4: Uh you know, with that many miles not to get

448
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 4: too deep into it, right, because it's a little bit

449
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 4: of work to get back in there.

450
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: Right. Well, I think the question for her is if

451
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 1: we told you it needed an engine and it was

452
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what's an engine today? Five six grands

453
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: for something like that, without even thinking about it.

454
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 4: You'll probably get a junker for this for maybe.

455
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 1: Under a thousand, right, and then put it in. Yeah,

456
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: you know it's it's but then you know is it

457
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: worth right?

458
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 2: Right?

459
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 1: And I think that's the question she's got to decide.

460
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 4: Right well, she and I've given her those options, and

461
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 4: she recommended that we contact you.

462
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: Okay, well cool here I am, so you know.

463
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 4: Before we before we put because it'd be a great

464
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 4: mechanics special right cars a nice look are a violent

465
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 4: compair is not shot. It'd be a probablys that wanted

466
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 4: to and didn't have to tight labor to put maybe

467
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 4: put a motor in it.

468
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 1: You know, And I always I would I would be

469
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: curious what sort of junk yard engines are out there?

470
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: Salvage yard. I don't want to if I don't want

471
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: to fend the guys with salvage ards and call them

472
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: junk yards. I know that gets the annoyed. You know what,

473
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: what's what sort of engines are out there? What are

474
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: our options because the fact that this is a stick

475
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 1: makes it a little bit of a rare bird. And

476
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: you know, in that case, is there a difference between

477
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: anything engine wise, stick versus automatic. I wouldn't trust somebody

478
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: saying it for sure. I would want to you know,

479
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: I'd go look up a fresh engine out of four

480
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: just for giggles and see if the listing is the same.

481
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: But I would be concerned about that me personally. Uh,

482
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, And I guess you know my perspective is,

483
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: and I'm assuming you're shop owner at this point listen

484
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: listening to you talk. You know, my concern is that

485
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: what's the cost of labor? And you know, what's what's

486
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: what sort of warranty am I going to give on

487
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: that salvage yard engine? And it's still a twelve year

488
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: old engine? And what engine? What vehicle did it come

489
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: out of? And how many miles does it really have?

490
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: And you know, it's if the car is that nice,

491
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: and it's it's one thousand dollars for a salvage yard

492
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: engine plus I don't know, let's call it a grand

493
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: to put it in. There's two grand versus five grand

494
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: for a fresh engine, a real engine or rebuilt something

495
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: and a thousand bucks to put it in. For the

496
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: extra four grand, you got something that might go another

497
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: two hundred fifty thousand miles.

498
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 4: You know, it's older, older, brand new. Yeah, you know

499
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 4: she doesn't right with it. It's great transportation for her,

500
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 4: But it come to a time where it's time you

501
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 4: got numbers.

502
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah, it's and you know this is the

503
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you the biggest reason why you're gonna

504
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: not fix it is beyond putting an engine in it.

505
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: What other parts is it going to need in the

506
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: next five years that won't be available?

507
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you.

508
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: Know that becomes part of it. I try. I try

509
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: to get people to look down the road, you know, David,

510
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: here's here's where we start to play my favorite game,

511
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: what if? You know, what if? What if this goes bid?

512
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: What if that goes bad? Right?

513
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 4: A few issues like you were just talking about, there's

514
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 4: just a million different radiators. You know, nothing's cheap or

515
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 4: does it stop?

516
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: Well, the problem is everything's cheap. If you want cheap,

517
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: you can get a lot of cheap parts, but there

518
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: aren't any good uh, you know, getting getting good stuff.

519
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: Of course, you know, after you play what if with her.

520
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: Then you can play what color you know, what color

521
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: do you what color do you want the new one

522
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: to be? What's a great word in this industry? Right?

523
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: You know, what if? What color? What next? It just

524
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: it's you know, I'm gonna print that on a T shirt.

525
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: That's a whole nother conversation. So, David, I hope I

526
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: helped and a pleasure, sir.

527
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 4: You confirmed pretty much what I've diagnosed. And and I'm

528
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 4: not charging her any labor forre. She's a friend of

529
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 4: the family. I'm just trying to help her out. So far.

530
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 4: You just not very yet.

531
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: No, you just you just try to steer people in

532
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: the right direction. I think I think the easiest. And

533
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: then you know, let's say she puts an engine in it.

534
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: Two hundred and seventy five thousand miles. Now let's talk

535
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: about the transmission. The trans Let's let's say the trends

536
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: is okay, it's a stick car, it's all hard parts.

537
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: It at least needs a clutch, right right, and you know,

538
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: like and the and the what next comment just keeps

539
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: coming back to my mind. It just keeps rolling.

540
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: Brother.

541
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 4: So yeah, the only the only great part, the only

542
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 4: great thing about this is. It's an East Tennessee car.

543
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 4: There's not a speck of rest top or bottom easy

544
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 4: to work on. Yep, you know, I hate to see it.

545
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 4: If I was a younger man and had time, i'd

546
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 4: pull the head off of it and go that much further.

547
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 4: But I'm just I'm just not ready to do that.

548
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

549
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: No, it's it's sometimes you're better off staying away. That

550
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: becomes what for. So you've got what if, what next?

551
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: What color? And what for? And there and there, and

552
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: you can live the life of an auto mechanic. David.

553
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: I appreciate the conversation, sir, you'd be well, you're very welcome.

554
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 5: Talk to you.

555
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: You're very welcome. You're very welcome, sir. Thank you very much.

556
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm running Andy and the car doctor. I'll be back

557
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: right after this and let's get over and talk to

558
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: Is that Tristan in Wisconsin? Twenty eleven expeditions some engine issues, Yes, sir, Yes, sir,

559
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: how can I help?

560
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 5: Thanks for taking a call?

561
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: So by head.

562
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 5: This customer brought an eleven expedition. I'm definitely give you

563
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 5: the backstory on it. Customer brought a eleven expedition five

564
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 5: to four tritened in and he said it had a

565
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 5: sworderful miss and him and his house put a spark

566
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 5: plug in it, and he pulled it in and hands me.

567
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 5: He says, the myth doesn't moved, and it didn't get corrected.

568
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 5: Stands me and the spark plug, and actually, where's the

569
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 5: rest of it? And they're like, well, I have no idea,

570
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 5: So no compression spark plug somehow got chewed up. I

571
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 5: cut the oil filter apart and there's all sorts of

572
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 5: parts in the oil filter, needs an engine, got the

573
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 5: engine replaced, and then fast forward seven eight months, new

574
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 5: engines in and he calls me and says he I'm

575
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,719
Speaker 5: selling this forward would you are you interested in it?

576
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 5: And I'm like, well, go got it. It's got a

577
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 5: brand new engine. Sure, So I buy this truck coming

578
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 5: and I went through the thousand mile break in, and

579
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 5: I was just about to do the three thousand mile

580
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 5: oil chains for the break in and let my brother

581
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 5: borrow it. And he calls me and says it is

582
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 5: barely running smoking. It's got spatch and check engine. Like

583
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 5: I pulled the codes. It's got cylinder four and cylinder

584
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 5: eight missfire, And I thought, you know what the coils

585
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 5: got transferred from the old engine to the new engine.

586
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 5: PROB needs coils, so I switched number four in number one,

587
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 5: and the myth doesn't move, okay, And then I'm like,

588
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 5: you know what, this needs to be on paper? So

589
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 5: I take it to another shop just because the warranty

590
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 5: company is not gonna They don't really care who I am.

591
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 5: They made it on paper, diagnosed soilder for no compression.

592
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 5: The tip of this barkclog gets broken, and the Pitton's

593
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 5: all hammered, sales leaked down test and I've just missed

594
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 5: on how two engines could have the same problem. And

595
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 5: the new engine was a short block, so it had

596
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 5: the same crank, protein assembly, camshafts, head, everything was new

597
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 5: on that.

598
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: So the replacement engine was a long block right heads

599
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: heads to oilpin. Tristan did he did? We did we lose, Tristan,

600
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: We did rats. We were just getting to the good

601
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: part of the call. So Tom, see if you can

602
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: get them back. Let me let me, let me let

603
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: me fill in here real quick, because two things I

604
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about. Number one, I want

605
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: to tell you about Danny' Volkswagen. I was going to

606
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: do this the last part of the show. We'll do

607
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: it here. There's something very satisfying about working on an

608
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: older vehicle. There really is. Danny's driving an eighty seven

609
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: Volkswagen cabriolet. Why because he wants to. I'm not sure.

610
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: I'm trying to church the kid up, but you know, hey,

611
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: this seems to be his thing. And he had a

612
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: couple of cases of no crank, no start, dash lights,

613
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: no dash lights, all the typical symptoms of an older

614
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: VW with a bad ignition switch. You know it's funny, right,

615
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: I remember from forty years ago doing these switches, and

616
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 1: I remember when the switches were thirty bucks. Well now

617
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: they're six dollars, so the parts are getting cheaper. But

618
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: it's the same company from Germany. At long story short,

619
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: we had to do an ignition switch on this. You know,

620
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: I won't say I forgot, because I don't think I

621
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: forget anything. I think it just takes me a while

622
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: to remember it longer to search the hard drive. Why

623
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: can't we get the steering column center schaft to pull

624
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: up to get the the spacer under the directional switch

625
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: to go on all the way so we can get

626
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: the steering wheel on, And it's funny. Everything's very mechanical.

627
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: You know, if this was a newer vehicle, we'd have

628
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: a lot more electronics involved. And I was really impressed

629
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: with how electronic vehicles have become in the last you know,

630
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: thirty years. Like everybody knows it, like we see it,

631
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: but you don't. You don't remember it. And Danny's looking

632
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: at me, and I'm looking at the car and going,

633
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: why can't this shaft pull up? There's something holding this?

634
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: And then I remembered you have to turn the ignition

635
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: key to the on position because that pulls in the

636
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: steering lock mechanism, and then the whole shaft pops up.

637
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: You can get the steering wheel on. And I never

638
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: told you that in the Volkswagen Repair Manual in nineteen

639
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: eighty seven and forward right. It's just it's funny the

640
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: things you remember that make a mechanical repair go that

641
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: much smoother. Hey, when we come back, let's get back

642
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: to the funds. I think Tristan's back will pick him up. There.

643
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm running ady in the car. Doctor, please come back.

644
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Tristan. I understand you're there again. Yes, sir,

645
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: technology is great, isn't it, So let me be quick.

646
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: We've got We've got two and a half minutes. Anytime

647
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: I see repeat engine failure like this, a thousand thoughts

648
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: go through my mind, as I'm sure they have yours.

649
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: That's why you're here. So number number four spark plug

650
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: physically was broken, right, pieces stuck in the top of

651
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Speaker 1: the piston are rolling around in the cylinder.

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Speaker 5: It looks like the armor broke off with a crandic material.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and you had mentioned cylinder number eight. Is there

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Speaker 1: a misfire on eight?

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think so. I think the ECM got

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Speaker 5: kind of tricked when for a zero compression.

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Speaker 1: Right. Well, you know, Ford A Ford is always lying

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Speaker 1: to you, right, I'm sure you're aware of that. You know,

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Speaker 1: they have FEMM, they have failure mode, They do all

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Speaker 1: kinds of crazy funny things. So, you know, let's let's

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Speaker 1: assume it's only a misfire on four, all right, assume

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Speaker 1: being a dangerous word, and it's a repeat failure. You know,

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Speaker 1: did they reuse your original cylinder heads or are they

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Speaker 1: fresh heads? Cylinder heads brand new cylinders, different cylinder heads.

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Speaker 1: Let's say it like that. Right. So the reason I'm

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Speaker 1: asking is because sometimes I see engines. You know, the

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Speaker 1: Fords that get rebuilt. There's debris in the variable valve

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Speaker 1: timing ports that don't get cleaned out well, and they

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Speaker 1: will have repeat failures. But usually not just one cylinder,

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Speaker 1: usually something with that bank. That being said, when I

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Speaker 1: see spark plug that looks like the end is broken

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Speaker 1: off or was it pre ignition? Was it detonation? Did

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Speaker 1: that cylinder run hotter than the other three or the

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Speaker 1: other eight, the other seven rather okay? I also think

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Speaker 1: about the injector itself, any injector work done to this,

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Speaker 1: Did any nobody verify the injector and spray pattern? And

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Speaker 1: you know how well or it was or wasn't operating

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Speaker 1: after the engine install Do you know that was not okay?

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Speaker 1: So you know there's one hundred things to be looked at.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully the engine company stands behind it. I would if

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Speaker 1: they put it together and they go, yeah, number four failed,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. Before this goes out the door,

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Speaker 1: I want to scope all the injectors. I want to

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Speaker 1: compare and stack them and make sure all the patterns

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Speaker 1: are the same. Heck, I might even move some injectors

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Speaker 1: around or replace them at this age in mileage, but

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Speaker 1: I would be looking at fuel delivery. I would be

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Speaker 1: looking at temperature and coolant distribution, and see what the

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Speaker 1: engine company has to say. Give us a call let

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Speaker 1: us know I'm running any of the card doctor. The

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Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you