1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: with on our radio. For sure has been Ashley almost 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: from this podcast. Yeah, we're in studio the second time 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 1: this week, talking everything Bachelor as and Eddie comes in 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: hot with some new and relevant stories facing Bachelor Nation. 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: Ashley what he got for us? Okay, So Jason Targik 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: was at the Super Bowl this weekend with his buddy 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: Grob Gronkowski, and um, there was a whole bunch of 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Bachelor guys that joined them, including Jason Blake and our 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: bachelor Peter. But um, what I'm here to talk about 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: about Jason is that during press of the Super Bowl 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: he teased proposal for Caitlin. He said that that would 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: be the natural next step in this like sequence of 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: the relationship and you know, very exciting stuff up ahead. 15 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it makes sense, right, I mean, it's it 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: seems like fine timing. They obviously are in love. They've 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: shown nothing but you know, bringing out the best in 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: each other. Not shocking to me, no, And what a 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: crazy story that will be when they do get engaged 20 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: and when they do possibly get married. Just to think 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: that she was engaged with somebody else from the franchise 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: for three years before it, and I don't know, let's 23 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: think this feels like a good time to do this. 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: I remember when Sean and Caitlin broke up, and I 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: remember then how it felt like quick Jason and Caitlin 26 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: announced their relationship, and it felt weird for us here, 27 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: at least for me personally. We're going this feels weird. 28 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: I can't think of Caitlin and Sean not together. Now. 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: It's funny. I can't think of Caitlin and Jason not together. 30 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: It's hard for me to remember Caitlin and Sean. Isn't 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: that weird? I'm gonna remember Caitlin and Sean, But Caitlin 32 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: and Jason makes a lot of sense to me now, 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: whereas at the beginning, I was like, wait, no way, 34 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: Caitlin and and Sean they made the most sense, and 35 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: don't I don't think that anymore? Do we know if 36 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: Sean's day? Anybody know that? You wouldn't know that personally? 37 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: Have you talked to him at all? Well, I'm talking recently. Honestly, 38 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: I would, um, I mean I might if I would 39 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: see him, but I haven't talked to him to was, 40 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: so I don't know Anyways, hey what else he got? Okay? 41 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: So Jed Wyatt is shocked that Chris Harrison wants him 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: on the spinoff, UM Listen to Your Heart and I 43 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: want to read this shade it's it's shady, guys. I 44 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: have so many thoughts about this, by the way, so 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: I can't wait to chime in once you're done. So 46 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: over the weekend, Chris Harrison said that he um wanted 47 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: wanted Jed to come on to Listen to Your Heart 48 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: Bachelor spinoff, and Harrison even said that the ending to 49 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: his stories was tragic on many levels. So Jed has 50 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: now responded to this and says, in a very shady statement, 51 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: I'm honestly shocked that Chris has any sympathy at all 52 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: for me redeeming myself in any sense, because as he 53 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: came backstage before I went on the finale and sort of, 54 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, try to talk me up and build me 55 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: up and give me confidence, and then he went out 56 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: to kind of tear me down. So, for one, I'm 57 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: shocked to hear that he has any sympathy for me. 58 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: That just really kind of blows me away that he 59 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: cares at all. I mean, judging Chris by who he is. 60 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: All he cares about is the show. That's who pays him. 61 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: Do you think that do you think that shitty? Right? 62 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: Oh that's so shady. Yeah, I just totally disagree. I mean, 63 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm you know, Chris has been good to me, so 64 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: I guess, you know, Jed and I might be coming 65 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: from from this from two different perspectives. But Kristin asked 66 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: Jed to to do what he did when it came 67 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: to hand in the season, Like it's been obvious that 68 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: Jed messed up, So like, if you mess up, you 69 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: got to face the consequences, and if the consequences aren't 70 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: good and they're a little bit traumatic like they were 71 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: for Jed. I don't know why he has in knee 72 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: any issue with anybody from the show. He set himself 73 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: up for this. I mean, I just don't get why 74 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: he can't own it. We've asked him to own it 75 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: on this show. Own it. Say you messed up, say 76 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: you want to move forward, and then we all will 77 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: with you. But instead we keep pulling this stuff up 78 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: and we start placing blame on people like Harrison, which 79 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: of course he cares about the show. It is his job. 80 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: I don't know how much he cares about Jed. But 81 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: I know, I do know that he believed Jed would 82 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: be an asset to this next show. And unless Jed 83 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: totally one of the next show I messed up, I 84 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: bet it would be a pretty good story for him. Okay. 85 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: So actually Jed does address that stuff earlier in this 86 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: interview where he says that he would never go on 87 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: any show with a girlfriend, and he has a girlfriend 88 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: right now who he's very in love with and therefore, 89 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: of course is not going to go on listen to 90 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: your heart. So he's just going, he's just back right, 91 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's just reiterating his story. It again that 92 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: he says he broke up with that girl before going 93 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 1: on Hannah season. He won't let that die. That's that's 94 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: his truth. Um, and we all we we we've heard 95 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: the truth. Thing my truth. This is my truth, this 96 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: is her truth, this is my truth. There's the truth. Okay, 97 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: there's the truth. There's the truth, and then there's not 98 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: the truth. I don't know the truth. Personalize your truth. 99 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: It's like, that's the thing. Actually, let's never here's one 100 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: thing I'll start with this podcast because it's gonna be 101 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: it's been common in this season. This is the episode 102 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: where like every girl has her truth because every every 103 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: girl's truth is different. I guess there's a lot of 104 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: things we've learned in our three years of doing this 105 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: podcast through talking through specific issues. Things we've learned about 106 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: each other, things we've learned about views of the world 107 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: and our world views have shifted. Things we've been okay 108 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: with and not been okay with. Here's one thing I 109 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: will never be okay with. Truth is truth is truth? 110 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: Thank you when I can't. Let's never be okay accepting lies, 111 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: Like that's not ever gonna be all right. Like if 112 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: you start telling me, well, this is how this is 113 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: my truth and even though it's completely false, it's my truth. 114 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: That's what I like. I don't know, like at that point, 115 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm done there. They're using this phrase my truth to 116 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: really to make my opinion sound more heavy. Yeah, to me, 117 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: it just doesn't sound just sounds really really inadequate. So here, 118 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: but here's the here's the thing we have to talk 119 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: about Jet. I'm happy for Jet. We met, we had 120 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: him on the Almost Fammes podcast live show, I Really 121 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: am We all celebrated him and his new partner. I 122 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: don't know the format of this listen to your heart thing. 123 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a love show or if 124 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: it's a music show. If he feels like it could 125 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: get in the way of his relationship, then good, don't 126 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: do it. But also understand, of course you are an 127 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: artist from the franchise, You've been asked to be known 128 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: as a singer. Of course your name is gonna get 129 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: brought up in this new music focused bachelor show. Don't 130 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: get so shady and defensive so quickly, all right, next door? 131 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: And it's not as I'm not no, not next story. 132 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: It's not as if this franchise has never redeemed people. 133 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: They redeemed people all the time with Paradise, with their 134 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: spinoff shows. So for him to think that like they're 135 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: just lying about a redemption story for him is not true. Yeah, yes, right, Okay. 136 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: So Tyler Cameron was spotted at the super Bowl with 137 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: all the other popular bachelor men getting flirty with Juliette 138 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: Porter of cs t Key, and we had her on 139 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: our podcast with Robbie a couple of weeks ago. I 140 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: wish this had happened a couple of weeks ago, so 141 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: I could have asked her, Well, she was here in 142 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: the podcast, but basically, if we learned anything from the story, 143 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,239 Speaker 1: Tyler Cameron may be rumored to be with a different 144 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: girl every month. He's talked about him and his dating 145 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: like every episode. Yeah, Like he's obviously not committing, so 146 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: he's just playing the field right now. Though wasn't like 147 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: when we had him on originally, wasn't like committing and 148 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: like settling down wasn't that part of this whole thing? 149 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: Or was am I wrong? M hmm? Or is this 150 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: like just this is he he's having a good time. Yeah, 151 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: he's having a good time. I can't we can't shame 152 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: him for it. And I don't really remember what he 153 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: said in that interview. I think he probably was like 154 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: I felt like I could have something long term with Hannah, 155 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: but I don't know that like I want That's just 156 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: like something I'm out there searching for right now. After 157 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: meeting Julia and Julia Porter, did you feel like this 158 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: is a connection or do is this feel like just 159 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: a fun thing? It was probably a fun for thing, 160 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: But I also was in here for like ten minutes 161 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: with her, and all the attention was on Robbie being Robbie. 162 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: So I can't say that I really got a good grass, 163 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: but she's very pretty okay, fair enough. The final story 164 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: of the episode is that Victoria F from Peter's season 165 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: she uh has been on a couple dates at this point. Um, 166 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: she's probably the one contestant that we've seen the most. 167 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: Uh what we saw in in the episode earlier last 168 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: week that uh she won the date to be on 169 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: the Cosmo cover. Well, it was announced that Cosmo is 170 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: now pulling that cover due to Victoria F modeling in 171 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: White Lives Matter merchandise. Well as uh the research has 172 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: gone on cosmopault and has announced that they've pulled Victoria 173 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: F because it was just in bad taste. The White 174 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: Lives Matter was was a fishing brand supporting white marlins 175 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: uh and trying to protect the species of white marlins. 176 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: But uh, Cosmo is saying that it was in bad taste. Uh, 177 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: it was not funny and as a result, because of 178 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: the association with the obvious Black Lives Matter, Uh, she 179 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: is no longer going to be on the cover, but 180 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: they will still highlight uh the episode and highlight Victoria 181 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: f Uh in the magazine. Should we Um, I just 182 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: what a dumb move for her to model in that 183 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: don't move, I just don't. Yeah, I mean, it's just 184 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: bad taste. Bad taste is a perfect way of saying it. 185 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: It's just bad taste. Now, the behind the scenes, if 186 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: it's a fishing brand, if it was whoever the brand is, 187 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: and if they thought it would be a catchy saying, 188 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: I don't know their reasoning. Um, so there. They also 189 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: had the Confederate flag in one of the t shirts 190 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: with little white marlins in place of the stars. It 191 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like a good situation. Um and Uh. 192 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: As a result, it's not shocking that Cosmo has pulled 193 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: the cover. That is the hot takes, uh from the 194 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: last Gee's a few days in Bachelor Nation. We're just 195 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: on a couple of days. Can you believe that that's 196 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: all come out in two days? Wow? The weekends just 197 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: get full of Bachelor Nation doing some wild stuff. Let's 198 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: take one break, we'll come back and we're gonna break down. Uh. 199 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: This week's second episode of Peter season of The Bachelor. Actually, 200 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: I've got to start us here with this episode, there 201 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: is a very funny scene. In my opinion, UM, this 202 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: season has not been very funny to me, there's been 203 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: moments the Champagne gay was kind of funny. There's been 204 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: like some like reactions to fights that are kind of funny. 205 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: But this first scene was funny for me because, and 206 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: I want to know if you agree, the women are 207 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: all sitting around kind of having this nice lunch and 208 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: a beautiful city. I love Santiago Chili. When I was 209 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: down living in Peru, Santiago was just an amazing spot 210 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: that was nearby. So the women are in Santiago Chili 211 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: kind of hanging out and they're all acting like good friends. 212 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: But to me, it's funny because you know that very 213 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: soon drama is gonna ensue and this friendly like lunch 214 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: that they're having isn't gonna last very long. No, So 215 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: this episode was the episode that really turned my opinion. 216 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: Victoria f last episode on Monday, I didn't like the 217 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: way that she insinuated that Kelsey wasn't a strong person 218 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: because she was somebody who cried a lot. That's totally 219 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: messed up. But today in this episode, she says to McKenna, 220 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: don't let that happen again. But that's just my opinion, 221 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: referring to McKenna interrupting the Rose ceremony to go have 222 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: one on one time with Peter, and then Victoria F 223 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: is like off doing her in the moment interview and 224 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: she's like just sitting on her and I'm just like, okay, Victoria, 225 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: uh starting not to like you? It's okay. So anyways, Actually, 226 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: just to kind of summarize what you said that you 227 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: used to be a fan of Victoria F because of 228 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: her supporter of Kelly, is that correct? I mean, yeah, 229 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: there's like a mean streak of Victoria F coming out, 230 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: And you know, I've been guilty of saying some mean 231 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: things on the show too, So like I don't really 232 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: um want to incriminate girls who say like a thing 233 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: or two that just like need event about. But I 234 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: really don't like later in the episode when it becomes 235 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: apparent to me that Victoria doesn't really like Peter. But 236 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: we can talk about that later. Yeah, before we jump 237 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: too far ahead here, there's gonna be a lot of 238 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: Victoria F conversation throughout this episode. I really think she 239 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: pulls a massive storyline and and some of the stuff 240 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: that even we talked about with Becca and uh Jesse 241 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: this week came up again with Victoria. But let's not 242 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: jump ahead. Let's pause here and talk about Hannah Ann's 243 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: one on one at lunch. Peter completely crashed. Is this 244 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: really nice lunch? You expect that to happen? He pulls 245 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: Hannah Ann for a date and he says that hannah 246 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: and is the goofiest girl here. He hate that, and 247 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: we find out right away that Hannah Ann has never 248 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: been in love. She makes a statement that she's saving 249 00:13:54,800 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: love for the right person. Ashley. At this point, I'm 250 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: just not tracking, Like it just feels like there's a 251 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: disconnect between Peter and Hannah Ann and what Hannah Annah saying. 252 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: And I do agree with Peter in his concerns. Really, 253 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: but if you've never even pursued love or lever let 254 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: yourself open to the fact that you might fall in love, 255 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: you're maybe not ready for the ultimate romantic love commitment. 256 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: I think she was saying that she wasn't just she 257 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: wasn't not looking for love, she didn't have she'd never 258 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: met somebody that she fell in love with at that point, 259 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: and I think a tree that's totally valid. I don't 260 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: think I was in love until after twenty three. No, 261 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: we're close to it, you know, obsession, infatuation. Sure, but 262 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: that's so crazy that he's I think it's crazy that 263 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: he's so concerned that she's never felt loved by twenty three, 264 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: And it's it's not like this is a red flag 265 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: for me because of her youth and because she hasn't 266 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: found it yet. It's not like she's like not trying 267 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: to find it or doesn't want to feel it. I'm 268 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: not concerned at all. I thought it was so weird 269 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: the way he freaked out so much. You know what, 270 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: you know what freaks me out is I had high 271 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: expectations for Hannah Ann in this day. I thought we 272 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: would see something really special between Peter and Hannah because 273 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: at this point I'm not seeing I mean, maybe Madison. 274 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: But if you take Madison out of the picture, there's 275 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: only Madison. She's the only one. That's what I'm saying. 276 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: So if you take Madison out of the picture, Hannah 277 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: and I thought was somebody that could step up, could 278 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: be that person would go Okay, maybe he's falling for Hannah. 279 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: And also but they're just felt like there was so 280 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: much disconnect between Peter handa out like it felt like, 281 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: I mean, just seeing them sit at the after the 282 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: cocktail at the dinner, sitting there and Peter's looking at 283 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: her and you can just see it in his face, 284 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: like I want this to work. I want to have 285 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: a conversation with her, but we can't even hawk, Like 286 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: we're on two different planets right now and we're not 287 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: able to communicate. He felt like she was doing like 288 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: pageant speak where everything had a perfect clean answer. And 289 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: I agree with him there, like I am like, Peter, 290 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: go be concerned about that. Don't be concerned about her 291 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: having not been in love yet. Um, But she just 292 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: came across incredibly fake to me during the entire one 293 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: on one I was just like, Peter, how don't you 294 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: see this? How are you not seeing this fakeness that 295 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: I am seeing? Did you feel the same way I 296 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: had to text the group last night? You did not respond? 297 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: You didn't I was a sleep kid. Um, Yeah, I 298 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: saw your text, and I'm just and I think when 299 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: you say fake, I say, like I just was trying. Yes, 300 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: fake and disconnect is what I would use, not like 301 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: I just don't know she knows yet what she's trying 302 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: to say. I think if he got down on one 303 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: knee and said, I want to be with you forever 304 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: would freak her out. And I think that's coming across 305 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: Like again, She's been one of my favorites since the beginning. 306 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: I thought she had a chance. After this day, I 307 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: just see no way that she is ready for that 308 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: next step. And now it makes sense why Hannah Anna 309 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: has gotten along. It feels like with a lot of 310 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: the women in the house. Some now we've had some 311 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: you know, controversy, but a lot of women. Yeah. You 312 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: see her hugging on you see him dancing around. It 313 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: looks like she's likable in the house. But it's also 314 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: why some of these women who like her as a 315 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: person are coming up to Peter and using her, for example, 316 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: like Kelly and saying, we just she's not like if 317 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: you like Hannah and you ain't gonna like me because 318 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: we're in two different places. Not that Hannah Han's has 319 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: anything wrong with her, not that there's anything in gensically 320 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: bad about her, she just isn't ready at all. Ben. 321 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: I think you just straight up acting like that felt 322 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: like acting to me. Those tears seemed just like something 323 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: that she needed to just think about her dog dying, 324 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: a grandparent dying, and just judge up I hope not, 325 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: because for Peter's sake, that he can't take any more fakeness. 326 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: Like Peter, this poor man is trying his hardest, and 327 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: if now he gets to deal with people faking not 328 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: just causing chaos, but faking liking him, this is gonna 329 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: get so hard so fast. I don't think I said 330 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: she doesn't like him. I just feel like she doesn't 331 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: have a lot of emotion, and I think she's probably like, Oh, 332 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: my cutesye attitude and my goofy side, right, the goofy 333 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: side and my pretty face is going to get me far. 334 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: And now I think he's like, oh, but I'm looking 335 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: for more than that. Now. Now I'm looking to really 336 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: feel a connection and fluid conversation. And then I think 337 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: maybe she freaked out. I think her tears were a 338 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: result of her thinking that she was gonna get eliminated, 339 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: not to the fact that there was like um distance 340 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: between them. Those are elimination tears. Those will may not 341 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: get a roast here. I still think Hannahan's around for while. 342 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: Speaking to Somebody's gonna be around for a while. We 343 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: brought her up early in the episode, Victoria f We 344 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: see a scene here where we flashed to the house. 345 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: The women are sitting in the house. Obviously, McKenna is 346 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: the one that we all expect to get the one 347 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: on one. It's the thing she desires the most. She 348 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: wants it so bad. Speaking of how bad she wants it, 349 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: I do think, um, it is hilarious, like McKenna's tongue 350 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: and facials that we have to talk about that it 351 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: is so hard to watch and so beautiful at the 352 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: same time, because it's just I love Lauren Zemas tweet 353 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: where she's like Chris Harrison does this to people sometimes 354 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: as she's dating Chris, Like, I think it's the funniest 355 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: thing ever. It's like so gross yet so entertaining to watch, 356 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I can't believe I'm watching this gift 357 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: over and over again, and yet I'm so disturbed by it. 358 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: And by the way, you guys, I know that the 359 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: first couple of episodes, I was totally not into McKenna. 360 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: I really like her now, she just like she wants, 361 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: she loves, She lets it all out, you know that. 362 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: I love it when people are that open and expressive. 363 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 1: And then she truly doesn't care what she looks like 364 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: on the show or in front of like the Girls, 365 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: like she just wants love. She truly does. She wants 366 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: it so bad, so we see McKenna. Really the highlight 367 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: of this is mchannican the one on one. She doesn't 368 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: the day card comes in and says, I feel like 369 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: we didn't get a fair chance on our first date. 370 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: Victoria f is off for the one on one. Here's 371 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: the thing. Let's stop there and say mckinna feels like 372 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: this whole thing at this point is pointless. Um it's 373 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: hurting her, but she still has a group date to 374 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: go on. So both the day cards arrive at the 375 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: same time Victoria F and for the group date, and um, 376 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: so of course mchannic gets on the group date. But 377 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: she slays it. She does such a good job being 378 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: the maid, and she's so happy. She thinks she's accomplished 379 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: a lot. It's funny how this like made up group 380 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: day that is obviously scripted and scripted to have. I 381 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: mean it is like this isn't an editing producer that 382 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: this is a scripted television show. How happy it makes 383 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: her to kiss Peter like she's accomplished something even though 384 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: it's scripted, Like that's how much she wants this ash. 385 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: She's so cute in this, she really is. I was 386 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: really happy for her. I thought she like slayed her role. 387 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: She did a great job. Um but and like I 388 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: loved the I just thought it was a really interesting 389 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: group day. You know how usually I tell you that 390 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: I don't like group date activities, and I like gaze over, 391 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: glaze over. I was really invested in this, you were. 392 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought it was funny. I thought it 393 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: was good. I thought it was really well done for 394 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: where they were at in the world. I think the 395 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: date like that, This date was really fun and super enjoyable. 396 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: I love Harrison's little uh scene where he comes in 397 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: at the end. But all that's great and all that 398 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: to be said, it kind of leaves this feeling really good. 399 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: It leads us to the cocktail party, where I think 400 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: one of the most shocking things happened in like my 401 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: recent memory on this show, Victoria Pee and Peter sit down. 402 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: It starts really good. She just wants time with Peter. 403 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: She wants to like sit on Peter because she wants 404 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: to feel awkind? Was that? How awkod was that? She's like, 405 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: can I sit on your lap? Because I feel like 406 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: I haven't been close to you for a while and 407 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: my love language is touched. But then she like crawls 408 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: on him in such an uncomfortable way, and it's such 409 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: an uncomfortable position and you can tell that like he 410 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: wasn't really that down. No, Well, here's the funny part. 411 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: And I know you and I know my girlfriend Jessica, 412 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: like that is definitely something. Yeah, she'd be like, can 413 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: I just like girl up here and you like sit 414 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: on me. I'm like, god, dang it, Like you're like, 415 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: take I can't even watch football anymore. Definitely a move 416 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: I make. Yes, So like I get it. I do. 417 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: I saw that, and I was like, but I don't 418 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: think you do that like when you're I just feel 419 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: like it takes a while to get to that point 420 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: where like Jessica knows she's doing that and knows that, 421 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: like I think it's cute and I don't hate it, 422 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: like I actually enjoy her being near me. But at 423 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: the same time she knows I'm like, this is a 424 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: little annoying, Like I could like, have you sitting on 425 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: my lab totally? Jared. Jared's like, can you just you know, 426 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: think about time and place first, it's exactly so, like, 427 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: you don't do this at this stage in the relationship. Anyway, 428 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: she does it, they start talking. I did not expect Peter, 429 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: even though this was like a funny little position that 430 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: they're sitting in. I had no clue Peter was going 431 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: to send her home. Did you expect it? No, absolutely not. 432 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: I thought that she would end up getting eliminated at 433 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: this rose ceremony, just kind of like doing the math. 434 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: But I definitely didn't think he'd did it then. And 435 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Do you think that 436 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: he would have sent her home right then and there 437 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: and um, you know, not wait for the rose ceremony 438 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: like he did, if she didn't bring up the conversation 439 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: topics that she did, like she was just like, I 440 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: just want to make sure that we've gotten over this stuff. 441 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: And then he was like, oh, well, now that you've 442 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: brought it up. Not not really, we're not really in 443 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: the same place. But if she had gone into that 444 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: to that group date thinking I'm just gonna have fun 445 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: and talk to him about light fluffy stuff, would she 446 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: stayed around or was his plan the entire time to 447 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: dump her there? Uh? No, I think I think it 448 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: was just because of where the conversation went, Like I 449 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: think at some point he hit him, I can't lie 450 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: to this girl. Good on, Peter. He didn't lie to her. 451 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: He didn't string her long. Um. He kind of strung 452 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: McKinnel along a little bit, but that's for a later conversation. 453 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: He didn't string Victoria p along. But again I pause here, Ashley, 454 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: and it's my My theme of this season is Victoria 455 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: p would have been in my top few girls for 456 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: Peter to end up with at the end, because it 457 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: felt like he was so into her and it felt 458 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: like they had something decent, even though we saw some 459 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: like weird things that have for like, hey, this is 460 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: my truth and even though I'm not making a lot 461 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: of sense here, it's what I am saying, so it's 462 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: got to be true kind of statement. But he sends 463 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: Victoria Pee home, which now eliminates one more person that 464 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: I thought potentially he could be with. There were some 465 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: weird eliminations in this episode, but I want to talk 466 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: about it later. Um. I mean, I personally got to 467 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: the point where I didn't trust Victoria anymore, and there 468 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: was like something about her that I wasn't connecting with 469 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: but I do feel like it was somebody that I 470 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: would have thought Peter probably would have had around a 471 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: little bit longer. There's a couple of girls that I'm 472 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: surprised he put through versus her. Yeah, even though I 473 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: just said that I thought she may be eliminated at 474 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: the Rose ceremony, but we got down to six this week. Yeah, yeah, 475 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: it makes sense. Peter returns then Ashley to the room 476 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: full of girls. Um. At this point, Tammy is talking 477 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: to mckinna, freaking believe this? Can you believe this? Soon? 478 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: I think it's the wildest thing. I don't know what's 479 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: going on with Tammy. I really don't, but something like 480 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: is Tammy here's my question? I guess for the audience, 481 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: email us have been nashally I hurted media dot com 482 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 1: or hashtag almost as podcast. Tammy feels so much like 483 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 1: she's so strong in her opinion. Is she right at 484 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: any level? Like? Is anybody here team Tammy? Here's my question? No, 485 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: I'm so crazy, Like she makes me so nervous to 486 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: watch because if I were in the house with her, 487 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: I would, you know, obviously, I'm like a McKenna, and 488 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm like a Kelsey and I get scared watching her 489 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: because I think about how hard she come after me, 490 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: and I would obviously react exactly like Kelsey and McKenna have, 491 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: which is very strongly. This girl, Tammy has some problems 492 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: with emotion. She must have grown up or something in 493 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: a very emotional I'm trying to figure out what it 494 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: is that she has her biggest issues with. She's a commission. 495 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: Does anybody team Tammy? Do you think, like, is anybody 496 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: out there gonna I hope you do. If you are, 497 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: please explain to us what it is you're seeing and 498 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: feeling and experiencing here. She Mammy. In her opinion, she 499 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: makes it seem like girls who are emotional are well 500 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: one child like um, which is totally wrong. But she 501 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: also says that girls who are emotional or like it 502 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: just shouldn't be there anymore, like they're not strong enough 503 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: for him. It's it's so wacky, and it's so it's 504 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: sad because I think we all liked Tammy. We thought 505 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: she was the comic relief. She was the type of 506 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: girl that we were excited to see in Paradise. But 507 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: now I feel like she's like the most bad souled girl. 508 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: They're like Hannah and maybe fake to me, but Tammy's 509 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: got some issues. Is Tammy the villain of this season? 510 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: Identified that? Yeah, and now she you know she she 511 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: she is the villain and hey, and she's taken people 512 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: with her. McKenna is obviously upset. She discusses it. Then 513 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: we see with Peter um and she's very clear with 514 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: Peter that for whatever reason she's she wants to make 515 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: Peter know that she's very ready for marriage. Well, obviously 516 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: here we see Peter respond fine to it. We know 517 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: what happens later on, but it doesn't get mckinneth the rose. 518 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: Instead that goes to Madison. I thought this was a 519 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: really I want to pause here, Ashley. There was a 520 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: moment in this episode where Peter and Madison are outside, 521 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 1: they're kissing, they're dancing whatever it is you call, and 522 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: she goes they're arguing inside and Peter goes, yeah, they are, 523 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 1: and he leans right back to her, and I'm like 524 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: that right there shows that he has no interest in 525 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: anything else but Madison and where she is at this point, 526 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: and I think that means that she's in it for 527 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: the wall Hall. Yeah, there's they have a chemistry that 528 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: is different by so many miles from the rest of 529 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: the girls, and um, like a depth to them and 530 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: you can feel their intimacy rather than it being like 531 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: we're making now because making that it's fun. It's like 532 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: this is we're kissing because we're falling in love. M Yeah. 533 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: And it's like they've sat and we've seen him sitting 534 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: in silence together. We've seen them overcome like some like 535 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: obstacles together. I think Madison would definitely be the front runner, 536 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: which wasn't the case for me, and I got a 537 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: lot of heat for earlier this week because Victoria F 538 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: was my front runner. Now, Ashley, let's take the rest 539 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: of this podcast before we get to the road Sammy 540 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 1: and talk about Victoria F. She gets the one on 541 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: this week because Peter feels like she didn't get a 542 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: fair shot the first time because of the whole thing 543 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: with Chase Rice. Also, if you remember right, Victoria F 544 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: has uh. Becca had brought this up to us earlier 545 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: this week. She's ran away into a corner twice and 546 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: made Peter chase her. Um, she's shown a lot of emotion, 547 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: uh and kind of uh. We've never got a clear 548 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: idea of if she's into Peter or not, Um, we've 549 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,239 Speaker 1: never understood that. Give me your take on all of 550 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: her confusion in her holding back, and then I'm going 551 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: to give him mine. Maybe we agree, maybe we don't. Uh. 552 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean I think for me, I look at this 553 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: and say, she's just not that into Peter. Yeah, I mean, 554 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: I think that's it, and I think she wants to be. 555 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: I think she's probably feeling like, why am I not 556 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: because he seems like such a great guy, and I 557 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: just don't think she's that into him, and she doesn't 558 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: want to admit it. Because here's the one thing about 559 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: the show that does happen. You get into it, and 560 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: it's hard to leave it once you're in it. It's 561 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: hard to leave it even if you are into it. 562 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: And right now I think Victoria f is feeling like, 563 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: oh crap, I have to one on ones. Peter is 564 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: telling me all these things, He's opening up to me. 565 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: This is getting serious. I'm all of a sudden feeling 566 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: like we could be like he could be got down 567 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,479 Speaker 1: one knee at the end of this thing, like this 568 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: is longer fun and games. I gotta get out. Absolutely. 569 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: I think perhaps seeing Chase Rice last week made her 570 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: be like, oh, God, I'm far more attracted into him. Um, 571 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: Peter is deaf only showing her that she's the front 572 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: runner by asking on two dates, and I think she's thinking, 573 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: oh man, I may win this thing. And then I 574 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: also think that producers probably want her around for hometowns 575 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: because she's been such a big character. Well here's the 576 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: other part of this whole thing, is it feels like 577 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: to this point in this episode, Yeah, Victoria f has 578 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: been clear she doesn't know she's in the Peter. She's 579 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: in the bathroom talking to producers saying she doesn't know 580 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: where she's at and if she's ready for marriage. Um. 581 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: We see Hannah an earlier in the episode not showing 582 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: Peter a lot of emotions, not really connecting with him. 583 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: We see the women in the group date uh kind 584 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: of some express their emotions and he sends them home. Um, 585 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: there's one that you know, he seems to really like 586 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: his Madison. Outside of that, Ashley, I feel like this 587 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: episode was hard for me to watch because again, I 588 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: like Peter, He's a nice dude, But it was just 589 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: a lot of women not being very into him. Yeah, 590 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: and it's I don't get it, like it's a good 591 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: looking dude, he's nice. He's been super kind to them. 592 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: Like it feels like at every turn there's somebody else 593 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: coming up to Peter being like yeah, just even the 594 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: women that he likes so much, Victoria F and Hannah, 595 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: and for example, he brings them on one on ones 596 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: and they sit there and they just kind of stare 597 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: at him and we when he asks questions that matter, 598 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: they just kind of blankly stare back and be like, 599 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to lie to you, Peter. But I 600 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: think what they're saying is I mean, I think we 601 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: know what they're saying is. I'm just I'm just don't 602 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: think this is it. Yeah. And I also think that 603 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: Victoria just to reiterate, I think that Victoria F wants 604 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: to stay around because she wants the followers and then um, 605 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: but she's really not knowing like how she's going to 606 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: do this without breaking his heart. Like she's like, how 607 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: do I stick around but just long enough and then 608 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: not look like a villain. She's like in this weird 609 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: little like back and forth, like I have to play 610 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: this game right and not turn out to be like 611 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: who did that? I feel like somebody pulled out like 612 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: top three or four Oak Cassie, But now after Cassie 613 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: and Colton are together for over a year, I definitely 614 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: don't think about that what I think anymore. It's weird. Um, 615 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: it's weird. I feel like this is where the episode, 616 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: in my opinion, kind of stops. I know we have 617 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: the Tammy and McKinney thing we're gonna talk about, but 618 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: if we break down the episode to this point again, 619 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: what we have is Peter trying to connect with a 620 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: few women that I think he's interested in. It's not happening. 621 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: A group date that in a sense, uh, we see 622 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: a great connection between him and Madison, and then a 623 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: little bit of drama with Victoria p and a lot 624 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: of drama with the women involved. The drama then leads 625 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: us Ashley into something that is unexpected. The second UH 626 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: date that Tammy and mckinnay get asked onto is a 627 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: two on one. UH. The two on one is meant 628 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: is asked to be done before the cocktail party where 629 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: at least one of these women will be going home. 630 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: There's no rose on the group date like normal, there's 631 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: no rose, but the drama that ensued during the group 632 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: date led us to this two on one Peter invites 633 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: them in we see this happening. There is a empowered 634 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: speech and passion speech. I loved it. I loved it. 635 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: Yeah it was it was a little much. Okay, it 636 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: was a little little much to me, Ben, she she 637 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: should have stopped midway through. I liked I like what 638 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: you said. I like the heart and passion behind it. 639 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: But it was like a little bellow dramatic and you're 640 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: exactly the closing. I don't even remember what it was, 641 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: but I remember I was like that she should have 642 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: cut it off a couple of sentences before her closing, 643 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: like it was all okay, good, There was good moments, 644 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: good things being said, like I am a strong woman. 645 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: Your words will not hurt me. You have said some 646 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: things to me that could have hurt me, They will 647 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 1: not hurt me. Like all that stuff is great stuff. 648 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: And then I think she ends it with like and 649 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: that's what I have to say about this topic. It 650 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 1: was cute, though it was cute, and everyone was team McKenna. Um, dammy, 651 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: she's such a bitch, is such a bit. Why did 652 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: you think it's still we'll go back again? Actually, you 653 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: think it's emotional stuff, like she just doesn't like emotion 654 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: or like tears. It throws her off? Right, do you 655 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: think it throws her off? I don't know. She definitely 656 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: has been brought up in a way to think that 657 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: tears our weakness and you should not be doing this 658 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: at this age, right. And I also think, like I 659 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: have to backtrack a little bit and just talk about 660 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: age for a minute, because I think that is just 661 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: the common denominator in all of this. There's a huge 662 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: difference between twenty three and he's twenty eight. This is 663 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: when you really start being like, I have the urge 664 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: to settle down. I think that's the average age. And 665 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: then these twenty three year olds who signed up to, 666 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: you know, to live an influencier life, are like, oh man, 667 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: this guy, I'm realizing that he's really here to find 668 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: his wife. Yeah, easily here to find his wife. This 669 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 1: scares me. Funny enough, McKenna is probably the one person 670 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: that would say screw Instagram despite Tammy's claims, and be 671 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: like Peter, I'm happy to move like in to the 672 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: middle of nowhere with you and just be with you. 673 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 1: And he eliminates her. Yeah, she gone. Well it leads 674 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: us then, um to the evening portion we we we 675 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: see this. This is a switch. I think you'll see 676 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: this and I think listeners you'll feel this. I think 677 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: this is a moment I'll put my stake in the 678 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: ground and claim this. After um this two on one, 679 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: Tammy leaves because Tammy leaves because Peter trusts McKenna more, 680 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: which thank god, he sees something clearly. McKenna walks into 681 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: the room full of the women, very happy, proud. I understand, 682 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: you get it. But you start to see the conversations 683 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: that Peter have with the women that are left, and 684 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: they're deeper, they have more meaning. Um, there's more things 685 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: being said, There's more things being said back and forth. 686 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: Even Victoria f has apologized to him at this point 687 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: and says that she put her walls up. She wants 688 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: to break those down and give Peter her all. Don't 689 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: believe her. But there's there's more depth happening now at 690 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: the end of this episode, and I believe this, this 691 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: is what where I will stick put my stake in 692 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: the ground. I believe the rest of these episodes this 693 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: season will have a depth to them that we haven't 694 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: experienced yet, where drama will slowly be forgotten and the 695 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: pursuit of something special will now be at the forefront. 696 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: And I think that happened now because we started to 697 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: see that happening for the first time. I agree, there 698 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: was definitely a change in the field. She walks to 699 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: the road ceremony. What happens, Well, who did you go 700 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: into this road ceremony? Beything like, it's probably gonna get eliminated. Uh, 701 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: that's so hard, honestly for me. I mean at this point, 702 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 1: at this point, everybody was up for grabs. I thought 703 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: there was a I really thought there was a potential 704 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: for Natasha and um Kelly tail me too. I just 705 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: wrote it down. I said, Okay, it's definitely going to 706 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: be two of these three women, it being Kelly McKenna 707 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: or Natasha. I will say his um Rose Ceremony cocktail 708 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: party conversation with Natasha was really strong. So that made 709 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: me feel like, oh, maybe she does have a better 710 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: chance that I'm thinking. So when he called Natasha's name, 711 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, damn, so it's definitely gonna be 712 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: Kelly and McKenna. And then he calls Kelly's name and 713 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: I am blown away. Jared was like, what's wrong with you? 714 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like he eliminated sid me and I couldn't 715 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: be more mind boggled. He in Monday Nights episode, He's like, 716 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: you're the best kisser. I really see something with you. 717 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: I feel I know, And then all of a sudden, 718 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: one episode later, she's gone and gone with no drama, 719 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: gone with no explanation. So confused, I thought she was 720 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: a shoe in for Top four. I think we're all shocked. 721 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean I didn't have mckinna up there because he 722 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: had just kept her from the two on one, So 723 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I think that means she's gonna 724 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 1: be around. Obviously it didn't. You fumbled, just completely fumbled. 725 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, Hannah Be for the for the word. I 726 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: was so confused. Listeners, are you confused? Are you shocked? 727 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: Does this throw you off? I mean, Sydney seemed to 728 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: be a popular choice. I mean, like we said, Peter 729 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: had told her you're the best kisser here, which was 730 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 1: a very aggressive statement. Also again very awkward for whoever 731 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: he ends up choosing, and probably watching this episode with him. 732 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: I think they have some practice to be done. Um, 733 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: I guess if he chose to anybody at all, But yeah, 734 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: shocking you guys, I asked you on Monday night if 735 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: anybody had information on Sydney in her high school past, 736 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 1: because it came out during Monday Night's episode that there 737 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: are some pictures of her like in the homecoming court, 738 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: and like being very active in school functions and just 739 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: being this beauty clean and she seemed like the last 740 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: girl that would be eating lunch in the bathroom stall. 741 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: Not to say that that those are two things that correlate, 742 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: but you know where I'm going with it. And then 743 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: a picture came out of her and Hannah be together 744 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,479 Speaker 1: because Sydney and Hannah b went to the same high 745 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: school and I believe they were in the same grade. 746 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: Even so, Yeah, isn't this like what a small world? 747 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: Crazy small world? So I said, I want to do 748 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: an almost famous investigates to see what Sydney was really 749 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: like in high school. I hear rumors that she and 750 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: hannahby did not get along. Um, But now that Sydney 751 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: has been eliminated in a very non dramatic way, I 752 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: guess we can cancel the investigation. And we were paradise. 753 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean my high school. My high school doesn't have 754 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 1: like actually my school also studs in it. Another another 755 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: very crazy note about high school Sydney from from Colton 756 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: season Sydney, who was on our live podcast a couple 757 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I went to high school with Victoria F. 758 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: And she agreed, Um that you know, further down in 759 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: the season and maybe afterwards she will come on and 760 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: talk about the things that she knows about hannaff. I mean, 761 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: Victoria F. This world is getting very very close. What 762 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: are the odds we're stall high school? I need you 763 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: to please pull out somebody else to go on this 764 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: show so I can start talking about how I knew 765 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: you once in high school or at this point, probably 766 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: when you're like in sixth grade. Um, please, Warsaw. I 767 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: know you've got some people around there. Hey, I think 768 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: it's a great idea. Actually, maybe in depth episode of 769 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: Almost Almost investigates. Actually, to close out this podcast, I 770 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 1: want to hear your summary of this episode. You're rating 771 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: A to F on Peter at this point this season 772 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 1: after this episode, and then also, what we can expect, 773 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: remember this is spoiler free, what we can expect in 774 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: your eyes to look forward to for the next couple weeks. Okay, well, 775 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 1: we can look forward to more depth. I would say 776 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,919 Speaker 1: we can look forward to seeing more Madison because as 777 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: somebody who I actually think is the only person right 778 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: for him, we've seen so little from her. I would 779 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: give Peter in this episode. I mean, can we give 780 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: him an a just because like he's so sweet and 781 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 1: like just the perfect package that no girls seems to want. 782 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: Maybe they want a little bit more edge from a 783 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: guy he's not edgy at all? Um? And then was 784 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: did I answer anything else? Yes? I mean I think 785 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: you said we're gonna look forward to depth this episode. 786 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: I felt like a lot of like kind of like 787 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: disappointment for Peter. It's still is a transition episode, and 788 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna give Peter a higher grade this week because 789 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: because he's just so darn sweet, he just doesn't just 790 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: so darn cute. Um, I would agree. I think Peter. 791 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: I think Peter is doing great episode that every week. 792 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: I think he is is going to get his his 793 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 1: footing here. I think there's gonna be less drama, more depth. 794 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Peter a B plus. That's still an 795 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: upgrade from last week, and he's a only gonna go 796 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: up from here. I think what we can look forward to, 797 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Peters came out publicly now and said it. 798 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: So it's not even a spoiler that he falls from 799 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: multiple women during the season. Now we get to look 800 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: forward to who those women are, and I can't even 801 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 1: guess at this point. Madison be the only one that 802 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,280 Speaker 1: I would say, this seems like a good shop. Hey, actually, 803 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: great job this week. This is our second episode of 804 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast in one week. 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