1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast wants it's next contract fully guaranteed. 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Around the NFL Podcast, presented by Into 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: It Quick Books, official sponsor of the NFL. I'm Greg 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: Rosenthal here in a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: Chris Wesseling and for the first time ever, Omar, realise, 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: that's some intense music to be interfenceed to. Wow, this 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: is awesome. We just broke out that music just for you, Omar, 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Like almost a thousand episodes in and that music. I 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: walked in with that infrance. It was made for this moment. 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: Omar Louise. Of course, Um a long time reporter at 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: the NFL network. He is sitting in, uh, in the 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: Dan Hansas seat, and you know, potentially putting himself a 13 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: little bit at risk here. UM no, no, I'm not 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: saying Dan is putting himself. I read you are because 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: Dan is out sick today. Uh. He's got the little CE. 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: You know. Of course, the little Chris had the big 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: Sea back in the day, and now we have the 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: medium CE. I guess is what is that standing for? 19 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: Coronaviruss I mean he has undetected symptoms. Dan has the 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: little c just a cold the middle that exactly. We 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: don't know that. We don't know what Dan hastive, what 22 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: are you? What are you guys? You guys texted him. 23 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: You haven't heard back yet. Right, there's a lot of missing, 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: filling the blank scenarios here. West. There's some information that 25 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: my wife would like to have that she has not 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: gotten from Daniel. I mean, his kids, his kids were sick. 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: He said he had, he said he had strepped throat 28 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: and um, and that's unfortunate. But Keisha, to her credit, 29 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: was concerned just in general about the the sand you 30 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: know how safe it is up here, emailed a shadowy 31 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: league figure about it and then uh which ended up 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: going to our producer, Ricky Hollywood to wipe down all 33 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: the microphones in the studio. Well, yeah, it was under 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: my impression that the janitorial staff, that the NFL employees 35 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: UM was doing a little bit more than just emptying 36 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: out the trash in here. So UM News Alert the 37 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: due diligence by Lakisha, Yeah yeah that, I mean, she's 38 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: she's very pregnant. It all, it all checks out and 39 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: West's face is like roughly four and a half feet 40 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: from Dan's face, like six seven. People need to calm 41 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: calm down, trying to trying to put this on and 42 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: full disclosure. I was just sick, but I went to 43 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: the doctor yesterday. It's not chrona. It wasn't even the flu. 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: It was some sort of you know, lung inflammation or 45 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: something nice, a new strain of virus. As we it's 46 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: no longer contagious history of pneumonia and Broncott r right 47 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: show totally here. Think I've got a cough, but hey, 48 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: it's no big deal. Glad you guys had me on 49 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: the chair. Thanks whoever's in that chair, constant Um, We've 50 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: got we've got a fun show. Um, we've got a 51 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: lot of news. We're gonna ask omar ruiz Um put 52 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: him on the hot seat. I know it does feel warm. 53 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: I think we all do. I mean our questions. We 54 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: we haven't had a chance to kind of quiz you 55 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: with things we've always wanted to ask you, and some 56 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: of them are hotter than other items. Mark remember that 57 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: I believe early nineties television show Herman's Head what vaguely 58 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: it sounds familiar, but I was not a consistent viewer. 59 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: Or if I want to know what's inside Omar's Yeah, okay, um, 60 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: we also uh are going to talk about some underrated 61 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: maybe overlooked players GMS stories heading into freeency. Um jumping 62 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: off the fact that Omar Ruiz again is here one 63 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: of the most underrated guys at NFL network. Think that 64 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: maybe now at some point you don't want to be underrated. 65 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: It's like you just want everyone to recognize your great 66 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: But I think it's fair to say that Omar is 67 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: kind of, um a key figure here at the network. 68 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: People love Omar, has a great job, and he's underrated. 69 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: He's he can be a little overlooked, not as much anymore, 70 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: sure because you're extremely versatile, and you know, whether it's 71 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: the old days and we'd be you know, cranking out 72 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: those stories and you'll be doing what Matt Money and 73 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: Andrew were doing out the news desk, inside the shoot. 74 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: You out to San Francisco and you cover the Niners seamlessly, 75 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: so on a day's notice and take a red eye 76 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: of Cleveland and be embedded with the Browns for a week. 77 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: And I think that's one of my strengths, is to 78 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: go from Cleveland to Jacksonville. No no drama, no drama. 79 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: Omar and That's why I have noticed though, um because 80 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: he's been with the NFL networks since two thousands. The assignments, 81 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: it's like the assignments are going up and up when 82 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: you see like who's covering one of the Super Bowl teams, 83 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: like Omar is getting those plumb assignments now, so they're 84 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: starting directing. Oh so you may not notice this, but 85 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: during things like the NFL Talents, some it like you 86 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: have leadership quality yet come across and not everybody has those, 87 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: So it's easy to see and it's appreciated. We are 88 00:04:55,400 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: occasionally pinged by listeners for well, I know where we 89 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: sometimes we get critiqued for being too nice to our 90 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: guests to come on the show. So you know there's 91 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to be If we see a little crack 92 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: chinking normal, we're about to go after it too. Uh yeah, 93 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: we mean we were gonna We're gonna hit you hard 94 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: about your um days as a game day security guard. 95 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: Uh back. So just be ready for some tough questions. 96 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, Ricky, let's do some news. Drew say, 97 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: your coach Mikebell calls you guys street rats. You guys 98 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: always find a way to get it done. That is 99 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: the voice of Tiffany black Men. We are just saying, uh, 100 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: so long and farewell to another one of our our 101 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: co workers we've probably said nice things about over the 102 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: years moving on to the MLS team in Charlotte, she 103 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: announced today. So just congratulations Tiffany Blackman, one of the 104 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: one of the good people here at the network, one 105 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: of the great people. Always interacted well with my daughters 106 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: and family and all the league events. And as a 107 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: matter of fact, she said that she wanted to come 108 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: when our next family vacations. I opened up to her. 109 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: Whenever she's ready, Tiffany. We just came back from one 110 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: and she didn't take you up on It's not that time. Yeah, 111 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: but she was in the middle of going to the 112 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: NLS Charlotte, so whenever that thing gets up and running. 113 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, she's a good friend of Lakisha. She's she had. 114 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: She did a lot of um covering of those Southeast 115 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:27,119 Speaker 1: teams Charlotte, Atlanta, in Tennessee where the Bermuda triangle the teams. 116 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: Nobody pays the town while we're paying it. We're paying 117 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: attention to the Titans right now. We're leading the news 118 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: with him. Um. We are talking Tennessee because Ryan Tannehill 119 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: to me, could be the first um decision that we 120 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: get a feel of how all these quarterback decisions are 121 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: going to be made around the league. Ian Rappaport Are 122 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: Insider reported today that the Titans are focused on resigning 123 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill. The tag deadline has been extended to Monday. 124 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: Just gonna combine these two stories. We will find out 125 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: if the Titans hag Ryan Tannehill by Monday, but in 126 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: the meantime, they are reportedly focused on resigning Tannehill. Does 127 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: this quiet your You're tom Brady to the Titans thoughts 128 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: Chris Wesley well Rad She said this is their priority. 129 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: Their top priority is to bring Ryan Tannehill back. So yes, 130 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: that does by definition quiet concerns that Tom Brady would 131 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: be replacing him. And I think as much as we 132 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: see Tom Brady connected to teams like the Titans and 133 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: the forty Niners, you have to kind of question whether 134 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: he fits those offenses and what the plays they kind 135 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: of run, play action, boot action, movement in the pocket. 136 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: Does he fit those offenses? Like the quarterbacks who are 137 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: already in place in those cities. I agree with that assessment, 138 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: especially with Ryan Tannehill wants to be there. The chemistry 139 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: and the magic that they formulated once he was inserted 140 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: into the lineup, that's something you can't necessarily replicate, even 141 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: as great as Tom Brady is, if you were to 142 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: go there just sort of out of the va hume 143 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: or in the vacuum. Ryan Tannehill coming in reminded me 144 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: a lot of the Case keenom situation in Minnesota. They 145 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,119 Speaker 1: thought they could upgrade with Kirk Cousins. Hasn't necessarily worked 146 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: out that way by getting a guy who seems to 147 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: be an upgrade. Um, so if they can build on 148 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: that magic, that chemistry into and I think making himself 149 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: an enemy of kissing Cousins corner. These guys love Kirk Cousins. 150 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: I don't love Kirk Cousins represent that's not I mean, 151 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: he's an upgrade from case Keen And let's I would 152 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: say this for the like a lot of this, like, oh, 153 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: your free agent, everyone wants to match you with new 154 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: landing spots and teams. And if I'm the Titans and 155 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: I look at Tannehill, or if I'm Ryan Tannehill, or 156 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: if I'm looking at Derrick Henry or I'm Derrick Henry. 157 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: The best landing spot is right where you were last year, 158 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: because I just don't simply trust Ryan Tannehill suddenly going 159 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or fill in the blank 160 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: team X. The Titans worked with these two guys for 161 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: a reason. I would hate to see either one of 162 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: them try to duplicate last year somewhere else. I don't 163 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: say they're both risky, so right and I and I'm 164 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: no Ian's right that he's their first priority. But to me, 165 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: what does that mean is either first priority at a 166 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: certain price. That's how I would assume that it is 167 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: that it doesn't They want to get it done. They 168 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: want priority, absolutely, they want to get it done. They 169 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: you know, they could get it done if they wanted 170 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: to just pay him thirty million dollars a year, I'm 171 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: sure it'd be done today. So it's figuring out what 172 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: the right prices and is there a price that's you know, 173 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: too much, too rich for their blood where they start 174 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: going in on Brady. To me, the tag deadline being 175 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: changed to Monday probably affects the Titans more than any team. 176 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: The Cowboys are in there too, because I just think 177 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: they kind of have to declare what they're doing. I 178 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: would imagine they're going to use their tag on Derrick 179 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: Henry and to me, that tells you, yeah, Ryan Tannehill, 180 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: you're our priority, but we at least start comfortable in 181 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: the uncertainty of what's gonna happen Monday and Tuesday that 182 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: we have some other plans if we can't get you signed. 183 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: I just don't understand, like, does Tannehill have any leverage 184 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: to to meet, Like what one team that's gonna go 185 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: after Ryan attached him to? Any team? Have you heard anything, Ohmar, 186 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything with Tannehill as far as outside teams. 187 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: But I think you saying Derrick Henry being maybe the 188 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: focus of that tag speaks to whoever at quarterback of 189 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: the Titans is next year. It's going to be a 190 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: run first team. Still, Derrick Henry is still gonna be, 191 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, the ball carry and he is the reason 192 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: in that offense for what he does to it is 193 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: why it's so attractive. Whether it's Ryan Tannehill, whether it's 194 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Derrick Henry being the centerpiece of that offense. Yeah, 195 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: I think you can't discount the stats Tannehill put up 196 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: are just outrage. I mean, who could use right. I mean, 197 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: it's hard to overlook the thest Do you agree that 198 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: if he just went somewhere else, like a team trying 199 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: to just find a cameterback Amphill, I just I don't. 200 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: I like, while bringing the whole Titans thing back for 201 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: another year. While we're on Tampa and Brady, the Tampa 202 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: Bay Times is reporting just now that the that the 203 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: Bucks are all in quote on Tom Brady. Well, and 204 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: we just did an NFL Network hider. We talked about 205 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: teams that are gonna be over celebrated if they do 206 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: certain things in the off season. I brought up the 207 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: Bucks because if you ever put Brady into Tampa Bay 208 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: and they have their shiny new uniforms and everything else 209 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: you got going on there, look out for the the 210 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: this the song of a nice young defense, and everyone 211 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: makes the comparison. Phil Rivers is potentially landing spot there 212 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: in Florida with Bruce Arians. The way Arians resurrected a 213 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,599 Speaker 1: late Carson Palmer career, imagine what he could do to 214 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. It would It's it's a very different fit 215 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: in terms of the offense that he plays in. The 216 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: Arians played with Manning and the only thing I'd pushed 217 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: back with us on like if the Titans took Brady, 218 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: I think any team that takes Brady, you're running the 219 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: Tom Brady offense. I mean you are just choosing. I 220 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: don't think that. I think Derrick Henry is the Titans, 221 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: all right. It would be a huge risk for the 222 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: Titans to change things. But wherever Tom Brady goes, you 223 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: are going to change things and do things in a 224 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: way that Tom Brady wants to do it that suits 225 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: its year old quarterback, because that's the best way to 226 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: make him at his best. Why bring him in unless 227 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,599 Speaker 1: you're gonna let him do I think too, you know, 228 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: picking out matchups before the snap, right, I mean, what 229 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: is his best quality of how his ceiling? Right now? 230 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: Can he lift your offense? Because he did not lift 231 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: the Patriots offense. But when you say that part of 232 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: Brady being wooed by another team and the discussions around that, 233 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: or that Brady's involvement in creation of the attack will 234 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: be immense versus taking someone else's That's all I'm saying. 235 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: And with the Bucks, I think the upside would be 236 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: a better than average starting NFL quarterback that limits mistakes 237 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: and can kind of manage the game for lack of 238 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: a I hate that phrase, but that's part of it. 239 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: Especially with the Buccaneers and those third turnovers last year. 240 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: I think they've emphasized ever since the season ended that 241 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: this season would have been dream actically different had they 242 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: prevented those turnovers. So even just limiting those would be 243 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: a huge victory for the Buccaneers. In regardless, it's a 244 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: very Bruce Arians move. And then you talk about Tom 245 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: Brady with Mike Evans and the weapons that they have there, 246 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: it's a whole different ball game than what he was 247 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: tempting to have lifted in New England this past That 248 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: would that would be fun, It would be a good 249 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: It would be a good spot for Stidham Corner to 250 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: step up and step in. And I of all the 251 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: impressive things Tom Brady has done in his career, one 252 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: of the most impressive I've seen is the way people 253 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: have handled his value this offseason after what he did 254 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: last year. I think it's fair, but I think he 255 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: was I think he was a mid level starting quarterback 256 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: last year, and it was about the same when they 257 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. For stretches and like for the 258 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: Bucks for the Titans, that could have a lot of value. 259 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: No forty three year old quarterback has ever started UH 260 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: a season, so who knows. Maybe it'll be a total 261 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: bus uncharted territory. Um, you know, who's not continuing UM 262 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: his great career. Unlike Tom Brady, marsh Yonda has retired 263 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: after thirteen seasons. Gonna be a Ring of Honor guy 264 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, they already have said, And UH could be 265 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame type of guy in five years 266 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: or more. Marshall yonda part of those Ravens teams that 267 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: gave you nightmares. Mark gave me nightmares. I mean, I mean, yeah, 268 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: you don't like the Rapperds, No, I'm not. No, I 269 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to trade them in for an under the 270 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: continent train system that would go to Yeah. Yeah, I know. 271 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: It's kind of symbolic of their rugged ways this decade. 272 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: I I I'm not probably the first person on the 273 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: planet that should be grading um offensive guards as Hall 274 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: of Fame entries, But I don't know what more you 275 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: need to do in terms of consistency that he's just 276 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: been someone you can rely on every single year. They 277 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: weren't all his best seasons, but Yonda feels like h 278 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: o F scenario Canady time. Yeah, I'm surprised he's actually 279 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: walking away with Lamar Lamar Jackson and mark Ingram and 280 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: everything that they accomplished last year in the Running Game. 281 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: It's seems like one of those offenses that an offensive 282 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: lineman would love to perform it, and Marshall Yonda kind 283 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: of walking away I think speaks more to the fact 284 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: that he wants to be healthy and go out on 285 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: his terms and maybe how brutal it is to play 286 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: guard at the level I think that that he was playing. 287 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: He was easy choice for all Decade for my list 288 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: that I did about a month ago, and I'm sure 289 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: he'll be on the one, the official one that they 290 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: come out with, probably with Zach Martin. I would imagine 291 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: they there was Yeah, I think, uh, I think he'll 292 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: probably be the favorite. I'm trying to think of who 293 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: else could be in there. Yonda should get it. Shol 294 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: Matonia has been very good, but now but on bad 295 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: teams and and off the robably not quite to the 296 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: level and not maybe for the whole deck. There was 297 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: a good story someone sent out, um was it? Kevin 298 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: von Dalkenberg is his name. Yesterday of covering Yonda as 299 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: a rookie, Chris McAllister once brought a a taser into 300 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: the locker room and that he put five dollars down 301 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: and he said like, whoever wants to taze themselves gets 302 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: the five under and then other players were like yeah, yeah, yeah, 303 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: and like started throwing a ton of money in there, 304 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: and Yonda just like walked up there apparently like he 305 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: grew up on farms and he knew that wasn't even 306 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: like a police grade taser, that it would be no 307 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: problem for him, and he just like because he knew 308 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: enough about tasers and just did it, and like everyone 309 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: would get and then they were like, did he really 310 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: do it? Did he really do it? And like did 311 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: it again just just to prove him wrong. That's it. 312 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: On the farm, they had electrical fences and he was 313 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: used to that. So get you a little locker room respect. 314 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna do that on on Friday show the Taser. 315 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: I think Ricky would Ricky would take a taser to 316 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: the thigh or something. She would go for it. She 317 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: would register the teams. You can make a little money. 318 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: If you can make a little money, yeah, take that 319 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: one to the bank bucks. You know, twenty bucks is 320 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: all all takes we have. We've been we've been following 321 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: the al Michael's Monday Night football, Tony Roma, all the 322 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: speculation of who's going to be a bouncing where throughout 323 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: the off season. It's really dance corner. I feel bad 324 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: even talking about it out of here. I really do. UM. 325 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: You know I feel bad about is Joe Testy talked 326 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: about that. It's unfortunate, um for those two. But hey, 327 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: we're just reporting the news. And the latest is Andrew 328 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: Marshawn of the New York Posts as the NBC is 329 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: saying no to an Al Michael's getting traded to ESPN deal, 330 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: So that solution, which seems fun, I guess, will not happen. 331 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: It just surprises me because of the Mike Tariko factor, 332 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: where it was such an easy transition to someone that 333 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: has been kind of backbenched unnecessarily. In that article, there 334 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: was one line that stood out to me because they 335 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: bent they mentioned Kurt Warner as someone in there. The 336 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: in the mix of Manning didn't go. But that said internally, 337 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: ESPN is toyed with the idea of a booth with 338 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: Steve Levy, Lewis Riddick, and Brian Greasy who did the 339 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: second Monday Night Game a year ago. That's just if 340 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: all this stuff falls apart and it looks like it's 341 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: falling apart, that could be a trio to look at. 342 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: They were good. I like Lewis Riddick, I don't. I 343 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: don't love a three man booth. I just think I 344 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: would pick just Lewis Riddick. Just do you know. It's 345 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: like I think, if you're asking people to do something 346 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: they haven't done before and then it's three people, I'm 347 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: I'm good with the little leaving Rick sorry Brian on 348 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: our four person podcast that is to come in where 349 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: we go on Forever. Yeah. But I think with al Michaels, 350 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: I think he wants to see this NBC Super Bowl 351 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: in l A, his hometown, and I think that will 352 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: be his swan song and the official baton will have 353 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: been passed after that. So I think it's probably more 354 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: his call than anything to turn that trade down, knowing 355 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: that not this season super Bowl, but the following will 356 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: be on NBC and he'll have it here in Los Angeles. 357 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: What was it putting on the trade on the table 358 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: as trade bait. I don't like, why would what's the 359 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: incentive for NBC to even think about some of that. 360 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: We'll give you fifteen minutes of Stephen A. Smith and 361 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: Football Night in America. Put him next to like, uh yeah, 362 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: Florio and that would be fun. Tariko. Things just go crazy, 363 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: did you say, Stephen Smith? Yeah? Just who are their 364 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: most valuable assets right now? Stephen A Meter? God? No, 365 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: Stephen even put that out there in the world. Greg. 366 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: By the way, wait, what I think Stephen A. Smith 367 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: was on some sort of Oscar coverage, right, Just try 368 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: to maximize ABC, ESPN, trying to get as much, you know, 369 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: for he can. He can do it all. So you 370 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 1: need more disingenuous from TV report you can you can 371 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: talk about kind of like the Stephen A. Smith types 372 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: of the world Mark because he became close friends with 373 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: Skip Bayliss over the weekend. Well, no, I think you know, 374 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: there's a mall that is being reconstructive, but there's a 375 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: movie theater still active inside of it. So I went 376 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: to said mall, I don't want to, you know, name 377 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: the location. And as I was going up the escalator 378 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: from the garage, Skip Bayless and a woman I presume 379 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: to be someone that he's again don't want to say, 380 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: I assume it's his wife. I am assuming was going 381 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: in the other directions. So I did not have a 382 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: long conversation. Actually that's Mrs Bayless. It was Mrs Bayless? 383 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: Was it more? Did you? Actually we didn't. I just 384 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: like it was one of those things. As the person 385 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: was passing by me, I like turned my Henry lines 386 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: that was Skip Bayless and like texted this this crowd, 387 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: how about what were you doing at the mall? What 388 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: did you see seeing a movie? Oh? I missed that 389 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: part movie will not? I will yeah, no, no, it 390 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: was not. I will not announce what it was because 391 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: the last time I mentioned a movie that I went to, 392 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: which was doesn't mean you're whistlers, I believe, Yeah it was, 393 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: I was, I was. I was just ripped a greg 394 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: you almost want to movie by yourself? Last night? Which 395 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: one was that I was gonna go see. I didn't 396 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: see it, but I will. Portrait of a Lady on 397 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: Fire I h a wonderful looking lesbian romantic period piece. 398 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. I've heard it's great. That's 399 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: playing at the theater that I went to. By the way, 400 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: is that what you saw, Joe? I saw a film called, 401 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: actually called I thought was underwhelming. Read who's in a well? 402 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: You know, I mean we can okay, don't we can discuss. 403 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: You don't need to bury it. We don't need to 404 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: bury it. Um, what else should we talk about here? 405 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's talk about the new rules proposals? Have 406 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: you guys? Do you guys look at that that they're 407 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: going voting on at the owners meetings, which is still 408 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: scheduled to happen. By the way, the league says, the 409 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: draft remains in place. The owners meeting, which is about 410 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: sixteen days away from us flying to Florida for remains 411 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: in place. They could always change it, of course, but 412 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: assuming it happens and they go. Uh, it was a 413 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: little shorter list. I noticed of potential rules changes this year. 414 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: What jumped out to you, Mark, I thought the Eagles 415 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: lobbying for a like different on site kick scenarios that 416 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: would allow a team to go for it on fourth 417 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: and fifteen. UM stood out from the twenty five yard line. 418 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: They you could get the ball on your own fourth 419 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: and fifteen in a way to try to keep possession 420 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: of the ball instead of doing an on side kick 421 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: I love I love it too, because the onside kick 422 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: seems like it's become unmanageable in terms of being a 423 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: reality at the end of games. To flip possession. I 424 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: love that real tune we saw in the Pro Bowl, 425 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: and I remember leading up to the Pro Bowl, Pete 426 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: Carroll said, if we get a chance to use it, 427 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: we will, and in fact they did. They scored a 428 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: late touchdown they were still within one possession to try 429 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: to get back in the game, and Pete Carroll goes 430 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: for it fourth and fifteen from their own twenty five 431 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: and who interrupts the play? Earl Thomas gets the intercession 432 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: for the ultimate bird back at Pete Carroll in that play, 433 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: But that I mean anything the ultimate burn in the 434 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl though the bird. Oh look, were you covering 435 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl? You're covering everything? And that will what 436 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: a surreal day. I mean, just to talk with Kobe 437 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: Bryant dying, you know, five minutes before you know that 438 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: all happened. What was that? Did you? What was the 439 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 1: reaction from the players and everything in terms of your day, 440 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: They're like, it was, well, first you I looked at 441 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: my phone. You think it's not real? I have somebody's 442 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: at TMZ texted them. They said it was so as 443 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: everybody in the stands is discovering looking on their phones. 444 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: You see them distracted, not looking at the introductions anymore. 445 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: That all unfolds any you. I start talking to the 446 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: players and they all had heard and and in the 447 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: locker room. Before you know, they're describing just the error 448 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: and the energy being sucked out of them because they 449 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: were having their locker room speeches, let's go out and 450 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: do it, and then that word creeps in redd. At 451 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: the last minute, I think Pete Carroll gathered the NFC 452 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: team around and said, you know, let's go do it 453 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: for Kobe and and all that. And players were willing 454 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: to talk to me during the game on camera. We 455 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: couldn't air it because ESPN had the rights of the 456 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: game until until they were offline. But the fact that 457 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: they were so eager to talk and get their feelings out, uh, 458 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: during the game. The actual Pro Bowl, I think, you know, 459 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: spoke volumes to what how they felt about Cope and 460 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: their words did that as well. I want to know 461 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: how it affected their on field performance. I don't know 462 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: if the Pro Bowl is the perfect gauge of how 463 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: it affected their own performance versus you know, prior to 464 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: the a f C Championship or something. I do like 465 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: they got to try out that that rule because that 466 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: we haven't seen a rule change like that in football 467 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: that I can think of. That's that creative and just 468 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: changing the dynamics of how you think about possession in 469 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: a long long time, Like, why not try that out 470 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: for a year? West seems a little skeptical. No, I 471 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: love you like it. I love any rule changes that 472 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: do not involve replay review. Okay, well, so there are some. 473 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: There are some replay review um changes. One, you know, 474 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: one proposal was saying, uh, to include scoring plays and 475 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: turnovers that were negated by a penalty. Basically, just make 476 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: it more available for automatic replay reviews so that you 477 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: don't have to waste the challenge if like a touchdown 478 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: is taken away from penalty, I'd be fine with that, 479 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: or successful or unsuccessful time. We don't know for sure 480 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: if they're bringing back replay at all, and they um, 481 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, the the Ravens and the Chargers both wanted 482 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: to add the booth umpire as an official eighth game 483 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: official and then maybe add technology Advisor and the there's 484 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: a lot going on here. Here's one that got on 485 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: my radar. Yes, I don't know if the Eagles are 486 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: just trying to, as they say, sort of punk the 487 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: rest of the league and all of us discussing this, 488 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: but the Eagles want to restore the preseason overtime period 489 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes. Well, and the regular season too, Yeah, 490 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: regular season. So I I just saw, okay, so that 491 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: it helps. I saw preseason and I thought, why on 492 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: God's green Earth are we trying to extend preseason games 493 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: that go into a fifth It is an interesting move 494 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: by the Eagles that we're into that we've done this 495 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: overtime for a while and now they're just saying let's 496 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: go back. Well, I agree with it. Regular season I 497 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: kind of get a little bit. I don't I like 498 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: the ten minute thing. I don't like the ten minute 499 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, because I think you get the one possession. 500 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: If it takes six minutes, now you have the other possession, 501 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: that's it. But but you know, if if nobody scores 502 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: in that first possion, nobody scores in that second possession, 503 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: there's not really enough to get a third possession to 504 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: actually win the game. And then you have you know, 505 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: all these coaches asked, you know, are you trying to 506 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: win or you're not trying to win or you just 507 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: trying to play for the tiny You have other ones 508 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: where they have like five possessions, no one scores, and 509 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: it's like it seems like it's largely been non it's 510 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: worked out without a lot of country. Seventy minutes is 511 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: too that's too long to be playing football, you know, 512 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: says the guy on the sideline. Finally, Um, the Patriots 513 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: lead the way. I don't know if we have to 514 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: talk too much about this. With compensatory picks, they had 515 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: four of them, including they were the only team with 516 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: two third round picks in compensatory announcements. Trent Brown, I 517 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: believe was it was one of the ones they picked 518 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: up for The Ravens have traditionally kicked everyone's but in 519 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: compensatory picks because they figured out the formula along time ago, 520 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: and they have said it's like they guard that secret 521 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: like it's Coke's formula. But it factors in salary, playing time, 522 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: postseason honors, and whether the team has lost more free 523 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: agents than they've signed, right, Yeah, and mostly in terms 524 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: of like the the Ledger of who you signed, who 525 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: you don't. That kind of decides how many picks and 526 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: then yeah, how how well they played or how much 527 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: they did decides where the picks are. And it the 528 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 1: Patriots are like the Ravens are a team. I think 529 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: the Patriots have the second or third most you know 530 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: ever in the Ravens. And uh, the Patriots they wait 531 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: until the day after they're no longer included in the 532 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: formula and then they signed some some free agents. It's 533 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: uh because I always thought, oh, it just seems like 534 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: the Ravens constantly have like endless you know, high third 535 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: fourth Brown compics, which is you know, as a Browns fan, 536 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: utterly because you look at some of these compics. Dak 537 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: Prescott came through a compic, Mike Daniels, Kyle use Check, 538 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: guys like Aaron Jones, James Connert, Our, Guy Burgo, Jeremy 539 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 1: Bergman put together a top ten like players that were 540 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: pulled through compics, and there's a pretty amazing list. The 541 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: Ravens since two thousand eleven have had twenty since two 542 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: has eleven. The Packers I think we're next, was seventeen 543 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: New England ten. But then you look at teams like 544 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: the Bears and Jags, they've had one each since two 545 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: thousand eleven, which tells me you're not that's twenty players. 546 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: I I saw a different list that went back even further, 547 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: and I think the Ravens had fifty three in the 548 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: Saints were at the bottom with ten. I mean, that's 549 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: forty players. They got an next dressing at they signed 550 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: mark Ingram and Earl Thomas and still got a third 551 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: in the fourth round of compensatory picks of that equation. 552 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: But that also speaking, it's for the Patriots they need 553 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: some young players. Those are two kind of late, very 554 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: late third round picks. Does that speak a lot to 555 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: developing in in drafting and letting the guys walk in 556 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: kind of the system. It's almost you have too much talent, 557 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: like you have to let guys go and you're and 558 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: they're good at good players, Yeah, they're good. I mean, 559 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: what what do you saying if you have what's the 560 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: cell for the Bears and the Jags that have one, 561 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: You've not done that, You're not done a good job. 562 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: You know, um, you know who has done a good job. 563 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: We're into Omar ask Omar second, you know, yeah, that's it. 564 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,479 Speaker 1: For the news. I mean, he's been here since two 565 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: thousand twelve. Um, his bio. I don't know if this 566 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: is a law ravio magnifico, but it's it's rather long, omar, 567 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: and we know you probably wrote that yourself. I mean, 568 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: that thing is it's about four words. Well, they asked me, Well, 569 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: they asked me, like when I first got here, that 570 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: didn't go up until I've been here twelve. I had 571 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: written like four before and it just never got on 572 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: the website for whatever. And maybe they had you know, 573 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: quick plans with me early on. But um, but if 574 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: I was gonna take the time, you know, when I 575 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: wrote that, I was on jury duty, so I was 576 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: bored in the main perfect time, I just you know, 577 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: started banging away at this bio and you know, a 578 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: couple of drafts later, there it is. You've hosted NHL 579 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: Tonight on NHL Network. You've been a play by play 580 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: announcer from for some Olympic sports, UH, including u c 581 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: l A's men's water polo. You made your way through 582 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: the ranks covering a number of sports, UH, and now 583 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: you're here mostly as kind of a team reporter, traveling 584 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: the land, going all over the country, and and like 585 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: I said, I think the value that I bring is, 586 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, they can kind of put me in anywhere 587 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: and you don't do a and so that's all been 588 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: easy and good, but now it comes. Now comes the 589 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: hard time. We have five minutes. Who knows if actually 590 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: he's actually having a clock. We have a rapid fire 591 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: enough we have anything. Um, we are going to start 592 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: the clock. And then questions are coming at you fast. 593 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: You gotta answer them fast. And who knows you this 594 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: might be supposed to be I'm looking for some depth here, okay, well, 595 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: depth and speed whatever. There's no rules on this podcast, 596 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: and we are going to start right now. People in 597 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: l A keep score more than any other city I've 598 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: ever been around, houses, cars, neighborhood, airtime, agents, social media. 599 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: Following my scorecard is happiness. That's the only thing on there, 600 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: and you rank very high on my score card. Your 601 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: children are some of the most delightful children I've ever seen. 602 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: They're almost like many adults are. And I've noticed that 603 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: you and your wife don't speak to them like children. 604 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: You speak to them as if they're actual adults, and 605 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: you reason with them and you logic with them. Tell 606 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: me the secret to how great your children? Well, I 607 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: think from from an early age I adopted that philosophy. 608 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: And so when we spoke to them, even when the 609 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: kids were one year old, a year and a half 610 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: and not necessarily engaging in this conversation, yet we would 611 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: speak to them at the mall in a way that 612 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: they could understand and hear all of our words, and 613 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: they could listen to all of that in a way 614 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: that and and I removed any embarrassment that I would 615 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: feel talking like that in public. And so they take 616 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: can notes here, I think father to be, I think 617 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: they absorbed all of that a lot better and maybe 618 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: a lot faster than their peers were. You know, you 619 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: kind of just you know, quiet them up at the store. 620 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: You don't want them to make a scene. Well, we 621 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: just sort of encourage them to be themselves. We were ourselves, 622 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: albeit in allowed version, and you know, kind of talking 623 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: like this again so they can understand better and maybe 624 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: develop their vocabulary and speaking spills skills. Good dad says, 625 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: right there, Thanks, I've got one for you. Um like 626 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: this music. By the way, Ricky, you seem like a 627 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: high class act from what I'm hearing here. But what 628 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: percentage and I want a number here, what percentage of 629 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: NFL wags ak wives and girlfriends should trust their NFL 630 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: playing husbands. I want a number between zero and one. 631 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: Their number seems about right. Most of the guys in 632 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: the NFL are good dudes. I know that you're a 633 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: good So you're not gonna tell us who you say. 634 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: You know things. You know things, So tell us tell 635 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: us something you saw as a security guard at Candlestick Park. 636 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: My favorite memory is Joe montana retirement night. They're retiring 637 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: his jersey number sixteen. Huey Lewis is singing the national 638 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 1: I hit them. It's the Broncos, It's the forty niners. 639 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: They're both, you know, right around the top seeds in 640 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: the a f C and NFC respectively. The Broncos were 641 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: going to win the Super Bowl that year. And I'm 642 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: the guy that is escorting the cameras as Joe Montana 643 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: is walking onto the so I'm making sure that they 644 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: keep moving because they're walking backwards of course, as we're 645 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: going onto the field at Candlestick and making sure they 646 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: don't trip on themselves, they don't trip on the cables 647 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: and everything. And just to have that kind of bird's 648 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: eye view as Joe Montana walks on the field to 649 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: get his jersey retailed. It was also the game where 650 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: it was Brent Jones final game as a forty niner. 651 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: Their account got to get out of there Montana's get up. 652 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: And it was also the game that Jerry Rice returned. 653 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: If you remember at that season week one, Warren Sap 654 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: tackles him on that reverse and you know is his 655 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: a c L. It was his first game back. It 656 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: was Monday night football, so it was everything back when 657 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: al Michael's was a Monday night football and take the 658 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: career path he tuck. Yeah, I mean not necessarily that night, 659 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: but just being there on the sideline talking to different people, Um, 660 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, I would you know, chat up you know, 661 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: Jim Mora at the time when when younger Jim Moore 662 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: was on the forty nine staff and he was not 663 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: coaching that that particular year, and and you know, having 664 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: a discussion on you know, team building and all that, 665 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, just random stuff like that. That was just 666 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: so cool, I thought, And you know, how cool would 667 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: it be to be on the sidelines and get paid 668 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: for it. So I kind of honed in, I like 669 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: choose your idiom for the English language, better phrase beyond 670 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: the pale or various stages of undress. Beyond the pale, 671 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: I would say on choosing that, Yeah, I mean, either 672 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: it's not my wheelhouse, but for the sake of this 673 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: show and and keeping it moving out, maybe I'm the 674 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: only one who finds those phrases interests. I love them. 675 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: Why did you? You know? The last time I saw 676 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: you in person, I believe was at around for something 677 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: in the morning at a waffle house. You uh, actually 678 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: you came with us and you ordered a very healthy, 679 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: balanced meal, and then suddenly you were gone. What happened 680 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: to you? You were you? That was a great chapter 681 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: the night you weren't teaching your daughters and life lessons 682 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: at four fifty? Where are you? I always say, I 683 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: have the advantage coming from the West Coast of going 684 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: to Indianapolis and and hanging with everybody and having these 685 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: great conversations late into the night because our body is 686 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: three hours ahead. So anyway, I wanted to hang out 687 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: with Mark and Colleen and and and one of the 688 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: coaching friends that we had met, and Dan was there 689 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: as well. Um, and I was so hungry. You know, 690 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a Catholic. It was it was the 691 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: day after ash Wednesday, so I had fasted all day Wednesday, 692 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: and I was so looking forward to once the clock 693 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: struck midnight, having that huge meal late night early Thursday morning. 694 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: So technically I was off the hook and now I 695 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: could eat whatever I want. Steak and shake was freaking closed. 696 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: So we had to drive out seemingly to Iowa to 697 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: go to walk I know, and we get there and 698 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: I just put the cook up against the clock. I said, hey, 699 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: I have a six fifteen flight in his four fifteen. 700 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: Here is my order. If it's ready, I'll eat it. 701 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: If it's not, I'm gone. It wasn't ready, I took 702 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: off left and I made my flight. That was the priority. 703 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: That's the coach we were with, by the way, offered 704 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: some explosive information that cannot be shared on the show 705 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: after I left, Oh do you have do you have 706 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: any good insidery stuff you want to let out from Indianapolis. 707 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: I did have a good conversation with Fred Kitchens, and 708 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: you know after you know, he really hasn't gone public, 709 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, with his side of the story since he 710 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: got fired. And I think the main takeaway from that 711 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: conversation was um he feeled he he felt he wasn't 712 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: necessarily supported by ownership to implement a lot of the 713 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: discipline that he wanted instill. We we had we saw 714 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: glimpses of that when they had hard knocks. Remember, he 715 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: was one of the vocal proponents of instilling a little 716 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: more discipine, trying to make that that team tougher. He 717 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: tried to do some things that he felt he was 718 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: overruled by by ownership. He thought that he had a 719 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: good conversation with Jimmy has them going into week seventeen 720 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: that he was gonna have a chance to build on 721 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: on things that they had gotten done there in twenty nineteen, 722 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: As disappointing as it was, and the bottom line that 723 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: he took away from that was they've been there since 724 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: talking about ownership, and and they've had twenty one wins 725 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: and he had a big hand in thirteen of them. 726 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: So as disappointing as that year was, as as much 727 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: a lack of a support that he felt he had 728 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: in that situation, they won a lot of games, a 729 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: lot more than they had. I mean, he's now on 730 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: a tech sread with like fifteen other Browns coaches that 731 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: field just the same way that you know, I can 732 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: imagine best California beach for volleyball O. Well, Manhattan Beaches 733 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: is the your beach volleyball player Avid avidly. So that's 734 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: kind of my one hobby that I have carte blanche 735 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: to how's the beach bot? Not right now, it's more 736 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: of a dad bot, you know. But it's funny because 737 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: I work all offseason. Inevitably, I gained fifteen to twenty 738 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: pounds every season just being on the road, eating out 739 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: all the time, lack of exercise, especially as a year 740 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: wears on, because I get tired come week nine, week ten. 741 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: It's just kind of like we all do. But being 742 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: on the road. It's Thanksgiving, and then two weeks after 743 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: that it's my Birthday, and then it's Christmas, and then 744 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: it's New Year's and then it's the playoffs, super Bowl, 745 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, whatever, that whole drive. So again, all that 746 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: weight and then I work all off season to take 747 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: it off, and I do, and then it's cycle and 748 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: then and then you get back in his training camp 749 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: and then away we go. So I get into the 750 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: best shape of my life every year. So whenever you 751 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: guys have all those tropes and you guys have that 752 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: the fun discussion about like best shape of my life 753 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: that we hear from the players. I'm saying the same girl. 754 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: This podcast right now has something called hashtag bod quest, 755 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: which um Dan was a large part of. He's been 756 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: felt at the moment, but he is looking to prove 757 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: his body as the rest of us. You're welcome to join. 758 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: Thank you, I will hashtag bod quest. So anything that 759 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: you do, hashtag it and wet you know, people come 760 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: out of the woodwork and see where you're at. I'm 761 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: down for that. And that's it. You're off the side. Yeah, 762 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: I survived, great job. It was really not that. Not 763 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: that that was I did. I did want to find out, 764 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, how you how you elbow out other people 765 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: for these these good assignments. I feel like of all 766 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: the the reporters, Omar is kind of the one who's 767 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: really just stabbing people in the back. You know. Maybe 768 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: it's the nice guy persona that I'm only can I 769 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 1: only can say that because you're one of the You're 770 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: the last person anyone ever I always wanted to be 771 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: on who wants to be a millionaire. I think it's 772 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: probably been auditioned and having that music, you know, and 773 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: and those questions I felt, you know, maybe as close 774 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: as I could get to read just minus the prize money. Yeah, 775 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 1: you don't get anything. You can be on her on 776 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: the next segment though, I mean that's like your price there. 777 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: You can join us as we discussed. I feel like 778 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: we've discussed it all with free agency. We're waiting for 779 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: this clock to just turn on. And it's been an 780 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 1: extra week this year in terms of the build up 781 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,439 Speaker 1: to free agency, plus everything has been on hold because 782 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: of the c b A. I think stuff like things 783 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: are gonna get crazy starting Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday are 784 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: going to be the busiest days of the off season. 785 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: We'll have podcast, we have a web show that will 786 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: be on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday next week too. We'll give 787 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: you info on that. But we've talked about almost everyone. 788 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: It feels like, but what are what are some people 789 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: maybe we haven't just like underrated, overlooked, roo easy and 790 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 1: type figures um entering free agency. It could be players, 791 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: it could be GMS, people that haven't gotten a lot 792 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: of attention that that could be factors. Well, I would 793 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: say well, from the GM standpoint, I want to see 794 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 1: how Dave called Well navigates that salary cap you know, 795 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: hell that they seem to be in right now. Um, 796 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 1: given the fact that he has autonomy once again, um 797 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 1: with coach Coughlan gone and kind of everything that he 798 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: loomed in that organization hasn't gotten that well when he 799 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 1: did have autonomy. Yeah, And that's right, and he's still around, 800 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: and I think that's the sort of point to it. 801 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: This is I'm sure his last chance to kind of 802 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: resurrect whatever hope he was down the road. I don't know. 803 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm never sure he stuck around here. They've would, They've 804 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: had one season over six wins while he's been there, 805 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: and he's still there, still there, Yeah, So I mean 806 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: I think, you know, seeing how he navigates this, you know, 807 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: will be interesting. Jaguars are interested in general, like what 808 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: are they gonna do because they cannot rebuild. It's not 809 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: like the rebuilding, but they're gonna be very active. And 810 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 1: then I think from a player's perspective, I want to see, 811 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: like Blake Martinez, Joe Schobert, how the middle linebackers do 812 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: this time around, because remember there I think there was 813 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: a couple of years where it seemed like the linebacker 814 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: position was getting devalued, and then C. J. Mosley comes 815 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: along last year and kind of resets the market, and 816 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: then Bobby Wagner surpasses that even well, they have a 817 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: trickle down fact. I don't think any of those guys 818 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: this year are as good as those guys. But how 819 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: does the market, um, you know, conform to the numbers 820 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: that were set last year? You know, are they beneficiaries 821 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: of that being in that maybe second tier? And Martinez 822 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: was second only to Bobby Wagner and tackles this year, 823 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: so I think he kind of emerged there in Green Bay. 824 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: And Schobert has been a playmaker, you know, for a number. 825 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 1: It gave me pause. The Browns did not show any 826 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: interest in Reese in Showbert at what apparently his his request. 827 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any middle linebacker out there 828 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: that's gonna get paid big money. I don't think those 829 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: two guys will. We we talked about Christian Kirksey, who's 830 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more of an off ball guy. 831 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: We probably got Nick quiet Kowski. Quiet Kowski, we put uh, 832 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: we put Kirksey at the very bottom of our top 833 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: one of one. We did not put Rashad Jones on 834 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: our top one of one who was cut by the Dolphins, 835 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: thirty two year old buck safety. He's had a great 836 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 1: career um, but he's not gonna make it. Jonathan Joseph 837 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: also learned to We learned today Hill hit free agency. 838 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of depth, but not a lot 839 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: of big names at middle linebacker. Who who's who do 840 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: you got for an underrated West We've been trained over 841 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: the last I think half decade or so to devalue 842 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: nose tackles in today's NFL, and I think Javon Hardgrave 843 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: and DJ Reader are gonna get paid. I think Hardgrave 844 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: is a guy, especially who came into the league as 845 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: a guy like the quintessential anchor guy. You're not moving 846 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: him over the last couple of years. He's developed into 847 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 1: a pass rusher too. And Mike Tomlin will tell you 848 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 1: do not think this guy is a one dimensional run stuffer. 849 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: He's getting after quarterbacks, and I think Hardgrave is a 850 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: guy who's gonna get a lot of interest. Reader Reader 851 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: to it seems like he might already be headed to 852 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: the Broncos. I don't know, like that was my that 853 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,800 Speaker 1: was my first thing. Hardgrave reader. I mean, we just 854 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: like this big uglies up tough up front. We're readers. 855 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: A guy too who who was a run stuffer and 856 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 1: he's gotten better at pass rushing and he has J. J. 857 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: Watts endorsement as the best nose guard in the league. 858 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: Hard Grave was awesome last year. He you can put 859 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: him on a two man line or a three man line. 860 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: I will not forget his run in the playoffs when 861 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: they made the a f C Championship and and got 862 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: blown out against the Patriots. He was their best defensive lineman. 863 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 1: Granted it's a small sample if at the end of 864 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: that season there were some injuries there. He also gave 865 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots all sorts of problems in that game. Didn't matter. 866 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: You know, your nose tackle is only gonna do so 867 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: much when when there your secondary's letting people wide open. 868 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: But he on a on a pretty talented defense. Javon 869 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: Hargrave was a guy who was kind of standing out 870 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,800 Speaker 1: the most and then he really built on it. His 871 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 1: best season was a year ago. It's really an awesome 872 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: Those guys on your one oh one, they are right 873 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: around thirty. Hargrave is thirty and DJ Reader uh is 874 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: twenty eight. In hindsight, I wish I put Hardgrave even 875 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: even a little higher than that. I think west Adam higher. 876 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: I might have made that mistake, but I liked them both. 877 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: Uh Reader a little bit more of just like a 878 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: run stuffer, but he can do. He can rust the 879 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,800 Speaker 1: pastor too. There's a there's a million good defensive lineman. 880 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: It's like the only the only position where there's a 881 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: lot of good players. Well, you could say Robert Quinn 882 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 1: and Jason Pierre Paul qualified for this if we're talking 883 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: about what they did last year and the way they 884 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 1: looked compared to two or three years ago. They both 885 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: looked quicker, more explosive. Quinn was getting to the backfield 886 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: all the time and j JPP was getting multiple quarterback 887 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 1: hits every game. I throw in eforts and Griffin, if 888 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 1: he actually becomes a free ag. The Vikings seemed confident 889 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: that they'll be able to resign him. But he is 890 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 1: a free agent, and he's another guy. I don't know 891 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 1: what it is. I guess it's just all athletes age 892 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 1: better than they used to, but especially it seems like 893 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: some of the line lineman used to fall apart there 894 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: in terms of their bodies a little faster. But now 895 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 1: you're seeing so a lot of left tackles playing until 896 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: they're late thirties, and you're seeing these pass rushers who 897 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: are thirty two, thirty three years old and like everysing 898 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: Griffin got it done last year, but we don't have 899 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: the league were like the guy in the middle of 900 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 1: the defensive line weighs three and eighty pounds and has 901 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: like five beer bellies. Let these guys right there like 902 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: they're treating their bones, working as like an accountant in 903 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: the off season, or like no actual Green Bay packer. 904 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: I'll give you one that I I want to see 905 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 1: it before I believe it. But you're talking. You mentioned 906 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: for the last decade or whatever, we've done X Y 907 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: and Z, I've completely looked beyond this front office year 908 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: after year in free agency because their mantra is essentially 909 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: go into deep slumber whenever players are available on the 910 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 1: open market. We'll do nothing but just build our own roster. 911 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. I think that the Bengals, you're here 912 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: whispers this time around with Duke Tobin. But to Mike 913 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: Brown has to sign off and all this and He's 914 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: been the issue. I think in terms of growing your 915 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 1: roster the way that of the rest of the league does. 916 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: If it's true that they're going to be active for 917 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: the first time and you're going to have Joe Burrow 918 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: at quarterback, the Bengals, to me, you know they've got capron. 919 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: They they are an interesting team going into next season. 920 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 1: But the first step is a front office that we 921 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: just assume we'll do nothing doing the opposite for once, 922 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: and that doesn't mean gost sign one left guard. They 923 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: have issues on their offensive line. They have to be 924 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 1: aggressive like some of these other teams. They have issues 925 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 1: in other places too, these linebackers. We mentioned that the 926 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 1: Bengals are a team that is desperately in need of linebackers. 927 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: They that would be fast. I would love to see. 928 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: I'd love to see a competitive Browns I mean a 929 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 1: Bengals team, not to mention the Browns so well. It 930 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: reminds me of an overlooked, underrated um story which came 931 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 1: up this week in my own household in terms of 932 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 1: my children asking they were asking for the origins of 933 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: different team names. I don't know why it came up, 934 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 1: but I was like explaining some team name, why why 935 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,720 Speaker 1: they were named that? And then they started my walker 936 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,839 Speaker 1: kept asking why are teams names certain things? And they 937 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: asked about the Browns and I tried to like, I 938 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,359 Speaker 1: tried to explain it to him, and I just thought, 939 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 1: you know, it's a little over underrated that people just 940 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 1: don't talk about that the freaking Browns are named after 941 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 1: the Bengals owner. I mean, like you, your whole life 942 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: is you're you're the owner of the Browns, and it's 943 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: the Bengals owner. I mean that just seems what you 944 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,720 Speaker 1: could argue that art ex Brown's owner, Art model created 945 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 1: half of the n f C North because what he 946 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: did with Paul Brown created the Bengals and then what 947 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,399 Speaker 1: he did with the Ravens created the Ravens. So that's half. 948 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 1: But I there was another and I took out there 949 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 1: that the Browns name is not it married well with 950 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: Paul Brown, but that it was a fan contest where 951 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 1: some one essentially called them he was named after Joe 952 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: Louis the Brown Right. I looked into this. This is 953 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 1: what Paul Brown said for most of his life, but 954 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: then later in life he admitted multiple times I had 955 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: to look it up because I wanted to give up 956 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: my son the straight couple of Paul Brown biographies. They're 957 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: named after Paul Brown, right, he admitted later in like, yeah, 958 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: it's after Well. I think it's cool that Jim Brown, 959 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: arguably the greatest player in NFL history named Brown played 960 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 1: for if you're gonna have as though you're gonna have that, 961 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: you're named after a guy who owns one of your rivals. Now, 962 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 1: in fairness, the Bengals have been you know, as cursed 963 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: or worse, so maybe something with that family. The state 964 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,919 Speaker 1: of Ohio needs to finally have a football team worth 965 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: the state of Ohio. I mean, you've got the Hall 966 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: of Fame there, we're not doing it justice. Um what 967 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 1: else we got for underrated overlooked characters in free agency? 968 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: I was going to say the women of NFL network, 969 00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:00,320 Speaker 1: whoa oh, we have like some dynamic, exceptional women. You know, 970 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 1: familiar with Ricky of course and Colleen Wolf from this podcast, 971 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: But Jane Slater has broke more Cowboys stories than anybody 972 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 1: else I've seen from this network who worked on the 973 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,799 Speaker 1: Cowboys beat before that. Stacy Dale's is phenomenal and one 974 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 1: of the great college basketball players we've ever seen. Olympian 975 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: when I yes, when I talk about like what we 976 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: see at the talent summits, like I always I'm so 977 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: impressed by the women in this company that they they 978 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 1: are go getters, They're confident, and they get things done. Hey, 979 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: every day is International Women's Day for West here. This 980 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: is great. Well. I worked with Jane at the Pro 981 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: Bowl and just to kind of see her work on 982 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: a daily basis and her connectivity with the Cowboys, it 983 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: was surreal experience how dialed in she is and and 984 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: kind of what kind of juice she has there in Dallas. 985 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,879 Speaker 1: She really is the kind of queen of the crew. 986 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: Good crew Cowboys coverage, Jeff, So, I'm gonna go a 987 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: couple of overlooked position groups quickly. Safety, a lot of safeties, 988 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: not just Justin Simmons, Von Bell, Anthony Harris, Devin mccordy, 989 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 1: Ha Hacklington. Dix is pretty solid player, right, Nie McLeod, 990 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: Like you go up into Karl Joseph is out there 991 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 1: if you need a safety. Uh, there's actually a decent 992 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 1: amount of ale. And then running back. It's not a 993 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: deep class of running back, but I just feel like 994 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 1: no one even talks about running backs anymore, and to me, 995 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,919 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon would be a nice addition to a team 996 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,760 Speaker 1: at the right price, Like if the Bills added Melvin 997 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: Gordon to Devin Singletary, and that's a one to combo. 998 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:23,959 Speaker 1: Like I was trying to think, what are the Bills 999 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: gonna do, because I think they're gonna do something. I 1000 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,760 Speaker 1: think they're gonna want to add a running back. Kenyan 1001 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 1: Drake is out there too, and in his interesting the Texans, 1002 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 1: they're a team that are probably looking for a running back. 1003 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: But Gordon's a good play when he's rolling, especially if 1004 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 1: you have someone with him. I think he'd be a 1005 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: good I think last year also, probably to an over 1006 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,359 Speaker 1: extended degree, gives you a bad taste when it comes 1007 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 1: to Melvin Gordon was the hold out. He comes back 1008 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,400 Speaker 1: and then the whole offense is not as effective with 1009 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: him in there, But you forget when he's good. He's 1010 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: been awesome. I would say with Kenyan Drake, Steve Kim 1011 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals too, because you're in year two of 1012 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury and they don't have a ton of cap room, 1013 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 1: but they have enough to make you get closer to 1014 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: completing the offensive roster that Kingsbury would want. I think 1015 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: at wide receiver. We mentioned this on our last show 1016 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 1: that there, you know, you're rolling out for white outsets 1017 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,280 Speaker 1: snap after snap, but you don't have four proven whiteouts, 1018 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: and you're gonna hit it in the draft, but you're 1019 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 1: also gonna hit it in free agencies. So I think 1020 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,399 Speaker 1: they're gonna be active because they can't float into next 1021 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 1: September with an unfinished offense the way they did last time. 1022 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: And I think speaking to the Cardinals that they're one 1023 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 1: of those sneaky teams that there's buzz going about them 1024 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 1: as being a destination, you know, that people that players 1025 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 1: want to be at. And I think Tyler Murray's presidence 1026 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: obviously speaks volumes of that, and Cliff Kingsbury implementing the 1027 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,800 Speaker 1: system in year two and what potential take off that 1028 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,879 Speaker 1: could have these guys talk to each other, all these 1029 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 1: players so that that matters. Maybe like that the heat 1030 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 1: there could just help wipe out the coronavirus, you know 1031 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,399 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's just like it's so hot there 1032 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,319 Speaker 1: that that would be not a place. It's don't check 1033 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 1: don't check the science on this, Uh, anyone want to 1034 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 1: throw one else out? As we wrap this up here, 1035 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 1: we're good anyone you want to get out there. I 1036 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: feel I thought I thought Mark I was just like 1037 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,879 Speaker 1: I have others. But I think we've discussed some of these. 1038 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: I had the Bills and the Bucks as guys that 1039 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, but we sound like the Bucks are no 1040 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,240 Speaker 1: longer underrated. They're becoming centerpiece potentially if this Brady stuff happened. 1041 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 1: I like the Seahawks. We talked a little bit about 1042 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson expressing himself that they need more superstars on 1043 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: that roster and and if they acquiesced about your go, 1044 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 1: I go te that. I think that's been one of 1045 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: the storylines of the offseason. Got a lot of positive 1046 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,839 Speaker 1: feedback in Indianapolis, so I kept it and my wife 1047 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 1: loves this. It's kind of win win all the way around. 1048 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: You've not had to go to at any point and 1049 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: just looks natural on you. And then I've had on 1050 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 1: the facial air and it's just like, I feel like 1051 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 1: I've seen you with this. I've had it, wore to 1052 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 1: Indie last year, but I didn't go on TV with it, 1053 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 1: So essentially it lasts post super Bowl. We gone the 1054 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: family vacation. I shave it down once and I keep 1055 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 1: it maybe for a few days, but this has lasted. 1056 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 1: Now the public is this is, this is two or 1057 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: three shaves in. Now it's filled in quite nice. Wow, 1058 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: it looks great. And I keep saying when we hit 1059 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 1: free agency frenzy next week, it's going to be gone. 1060 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 1: But I think it gives you You're such a nice guy, 1061 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 1: but it gives you a little Yeah, it gives you 1062 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 1: a little bit of menace, which I don't think it 1063 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: a little You know, you're not in You're not you're yeah, 1064 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 1: you said you're you're not in peak beach volleyball shape. 1065 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: So this this kind of makes this gives you a 1066 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,879 Speaker 1: little more menace. This is a Lakisha theory. Some men 1067 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 1: need facial hair for seasoning in flavor. You're not one 1068 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 1: of those men, but it works naturally. No, I've been 1069 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,839 Speaker 1: told that I need it for seasoning. What other mother, guys, 1070 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: what other men does she need facial hair on? Just 1071 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: if she is going across the She was my first 1072 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: and biggest supporter of of my beard when I had it, 1073 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 1: so you know I did a you guys, um, you 1074 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: guys have a lot in common. West is expecting his uh, 1075 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,480 Speaker 1: his first in may Omar just days away in terms 1076 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 1: of expectation, uh, your third daughters away from his uh 1077 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 1: do date? Yeah, in terms of do date. Who knows, 1078 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,399 Speaker 1: might might land on the same day your your third child, 1079 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,319 Speaker 1: Mark and I still sitting on too. I don't think 1080 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 1: we're moving off that. Yeah, there's not a huge push 1081 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 1: in our household to expand the roster. All right, well, 1082 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,360 Speaker 1: I mean the factory had been closed in my household 1083 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 1: and then yeah, well that's I'm happy for you a 1084 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 1: third go keep going, all right, before this goes anymore 1085 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: off the rails Omar. If Dan was here, he would 1086 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,359 Speaker 1: say that you said it all, you did it all. Well, thanks, 1087 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 1: and it was a it was awesome to be here. 1088 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: You know, I've been big fans you guys. You'll be back, 1089 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 1: and you know, I appreciate guys having me on. It 1090 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 1: was fun. It was great having Omar. We will be 1091 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 1: back on Friday, and who knows what we're gonna come 1092 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 1: up with. We're running a Taser special maybe, yeah, yeah, 1093 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 1: the Taser special. Maybe some news happened. Ricky is getting 1094 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: the taser on Friday. We'll see if Dan's back. Don't 1095 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 1: taste me, bro, I guess he's got the little see 1096 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: be careful. I'm not sure how little it is. We'll 1097 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 1: be careful out there everyone in terms of the Middle 1098 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: Sea and uh everyone with the big C. We're thinking 1099 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 1: of you. You know, fight on. We got all our 1100 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: c's covered. Next week is going to be big. So 1101 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 1: until then, thank you for listening to the Around the 1102 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast, presented by Intuit Quick Books, official sponsor of 1103 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 1: the NFL. What a time, weird time in this world 1104 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 1: right now, very weird for Mark Sessler, Chris Wesley, Nomarroui's 1105 00:55:30,719 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: and Ricky Hollywood. See you Friday. The counticis