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Speaker 1: what's up the general nation. Welcome the Big Bets on

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Speaker 1: Campus Podcast. This is the College Basketball Conference Tournament Betting Preview,

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Speaker 1: Part six. I'm stucky. Joining me for today's episode are

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Speaker 1: with Kaim of CWAN talk some Big East and SEC,

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Speaker 1: tomorrow's episode, all thirty one covered. We're recording this on

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Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon. The Madness is madnessing. Let's start with the SEC.

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Speaker 1: This will take place in Bridge Stone Arena in Nashville

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Speaker 1: between March eleventh and March fifteenth, so it kicks off

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Speaker 1: the first round on Wednesday, second round Thursday, Quarters Friday,

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Speaker 1: Semi Saturday, and the Meaningless championship. Commuty says it's not meaningless.

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Speaker 1: But on Sunday, looking at the odds, as you might expect,

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Speaker 1: the red hot Florida Gators are clear favorites odds on

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Speaker 1: favorites here they are minus one eighty at one book

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Speaker 1: that I'm looking at. Next up, you have Arkansas seven

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Speaker 1: Vanderbilt eighteen hundred, Kentucky thirty five to one. So I

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Speaker 1: will say a couple of thoughts for me, that jump

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Speaker 1: right out. Kentucky at thirty five to one is insane.

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Speaker 1: They they play on Wednesday. They got to win five

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Speaker 1: have them at. I would need to consider bed in Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: I need one hundred to one, just like to start

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Speaker 1: thinking about So, yeah, you that in Kentucky, which is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see forty to one and Caesar too.

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Speaker 3: Still not enough, but you can get Miszoo one hundred

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Speaker 2: And one Entucky, Yeah, and beat Florida and Florida.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the it's interesting Florida. So I will say Florida

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no chance, absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: I make them like even money. So no, that's ridiculous

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Speaker 3: The Acuff injury worries me. I don't see why cal

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Speaker 3: But I think you need Acuff to win the SEC tournament.

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Speaker 3: And I like Alabama's odds are longer right than Arkansas,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, first of all Providence. They feel kind of

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Speaker 3: Butler's been tough. They winning that to Paul is not

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Speaker 3: I think Saint John's is winning it because I don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, seton. I mean then you go to Seaton Hall Craighton.

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Speaker 1: Creighton's gonna fire them up. I I really don't know

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Speaker 3: I I like Creighton's offense better in a tournament setting

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Speaker 1: Bottom half you have Marquette and Xavier. Marquette is playing

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Speaker 1: They'll be dogs against Marquette. Recent form in health says

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Speaker 1: you know, limited upside on offense. Defense is pretty good.

428
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 1: They're room dee. The interior is pretty legit, but and

429
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: they'll fight. Offenses is pretty ugly. They can't shoot, they

430
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: turn it over too much. Don't play Georgetown. They won

431
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: first meeting fifty six to fifty at home when Georgetown

432
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: scored like eight points in the second half or something,

433
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: they like made like one shot. And then in the

434
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: second meeting, you guess that they split, Like all these

435
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: teams split. Noteworthy with Georgetown is kJ Lewis is very good,

436
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: is out for the year. So would any thoughts on

437
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: Georgetown with de.

438
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 3: Paul slightly into Paul just because of the Lewis injury.

439
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 3: But Georgetown's kind of a whack a mole team too,

440
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 3: one that's tough to get right.

441
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: They have random games.

442
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 3: They play awesome like the great and overtime game we

443
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 3: talked about the Connecticut two point loss that was a

444
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 3: while ago. I actually play Connecticut close twice. I think that

445
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 3: Paul can hang around, especially their dog. It's probably been

446
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 3: closer to pick with Lewis injury. Slightly towards the Demons.

447
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: I would tend to agree winner gets Nova can either

448
00:24:59,760 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: one of.

449
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 3: The and beating Nova Georgetown. Maybe Nova's too fundamentally sound,

450
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 3: too too well coached. They're not like a out athlete

451
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: you or out talent you type of team, especially Yukon

452
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: Saint John's. But they're really really solid, really high floor.

453
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Nova Yukon Novad did take them to

454
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: overtime in stores and then got blown out at home.

455
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 1: I guess if Nova went nuts from three, but I

456
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: just need a better price than five to one for

457
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: them to win three games in three days, presumably one

458
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: against Yukon, one against Saint John's. Matt hot No, Matt Hodge.

459
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: I think they miss him.

460
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 2: It matters. Yeah, they're they're up front.

461
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so and that would hurt against Yukon and Saint

462
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: John's in particular. So yeah, I think we're getting I

463
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: think we're getting Chalk. I think we're getting Sat John's

464
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: Yukon Part three, which would be awesome.

465
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: Yep.

466
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: And I I do hope for viewing purposes we get

467
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: Saint John's Providence because I might bet Butler. And yeah,

468
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a lot of coin flip games outside

469
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: of the you know, the top the top of the league.

470
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: Because this was an ugly year in the Big East,

471
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I think that sat at plus

472
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: one seven. I think the only thing that I could

473
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: look at a Saint John's plus one seventy playing in

474
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: the Garden, and I like their path and like Yukon.

475
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: Like if if it's Yukon Saint John's, I'd be happy

476
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: to have a plus one seventy in the Garden in

477
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: the final. But Yukon has shown that they're and like

478
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: the other team, the third best team is Villanova, so

479
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: and Yukon has shown that like they will just have

480
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: these random games where they just are they It doesn't

481
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: matter who they're playing, They'll be in the game, and

482
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: they do. Now it might be it's problem less likely

483
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: because after that lost to Marqueze right early, we'll probably

484
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: haven't focused.

485
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 3: And oh yeah, if he's not suspended for game one,

486
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: we'll see that's fair too, bumping the ref.

487
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I think the values of Saint John's.

488
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: I don't have any interest in any of the long shots.

489
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: You I agree, Yep, Saint John's are nothing for me

490
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: in this tournament.

491
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Kai, thanks for joining me. Good luck

492
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: the rest of man. Let's make sure you check out

493
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: Kai and all the great work he does at the

494
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: Three Man Weave end on the wood winning actually workap

495
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: all right, It's kind to bring in none other than

496
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: my guy Jim Root from the Three Man Weave. Kay

497
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: and I just talked about the Big East and the

498
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: ACC and now Jim and I are going to dive

499
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: into the Big West, the American, and the Whack. And

500
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: I am so excited to have you here for these

501
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: because one of my favorite parts about non high major

502
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: college basketball is, you know, unique teams, unique styles, unique schemes,

503
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: and especially in the Big West and the Whack. Oh man,

504
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: we have very very distinct profiles, teams of extremes, fascinating

505
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: leagues to dive into. And we'll get into the American

506
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: as well. No odds out yet those games just ended.

507
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: We'll kind of do that on the fly, maybe just

508
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: discuss who's worth a look. I don't I doubt we'll

509
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: have odds by the time we record that. Which is

510
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: I think it's the same every year. I know that

511
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: did Tulsa hold on? Yet Tulsa held on, so we'll

512
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: know the seeding. Memphis won, Memphis is going to get in.

513
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: They almost missed the tournament.

514
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: They want to know to Memphis. With the most resources

515
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 2: in the league, you managed to make the top ten

516
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: of the American Way to Go.

517
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. But let's start with the Let's start with the

518
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: Big West in Vegas. Eight teams. That means Bakersfield, Riverside,

519
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: and Long Beach are out and your top two seeds

520
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: get and look, there's not much. This is the deepest

521
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: I can ever remember the Big West. Like I'm super excited,

522
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: like anyone can beat anybody. But so that makes the

523
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: advantage of the double bid to the Semis even more

524
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: important because there wasn't a lot separating all of these teams.

525
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: Irvine gets it. They finished the top of the league

526
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: and then Hawaii. You had a bad loss of Long

527
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: Beach State to close the year, but they were locked

528
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: in as the top two seed. They're the two seed.

529
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: Your three to four are Fullerton and Northridge, who have

530
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: a ton of similarities in team profile, which we'll get into.

531
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: And then the teams have to play in the first round.

532
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: The Tritons of U see San Diego, they'll play cal

533
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: Poly and then you see Davis will take on U

534
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: see Santa Barbara. From an odds perspective. You see Irvine,

535
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: I remember plus one forty five, Hawaii plus one ninety.

536
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: You see San Diego SI plus seven fifty, you see

537
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: Santa Barbara ten to one, Northridge twelve to one, Fullerton

538
00:29:53,840 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: sixteen to one. So let's my to run the people

539
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: that aren't familiar with some of these teams. I mean

540
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: a quick rundown. You see, I elite, elite two point

541
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: defense as always as they always always do. Kyle Evans

542
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: as their their man inside this year, their tree there.

543
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: But their offense is pretty ugly. I mean, they got

544
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: a freshman point guard dual. They'll turn it over a bunch,

545
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: but their their defense is elite as always Hawaii an

546
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: extreme no help defense. They got a seven footer at

547
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: the rim. Their point guard play is pretty shaky. They

548
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: can't really shoot. I mean they've been back. They've been

549
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: the worst of the eight teams since February first, two

550
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: hundred and first.

551
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: Damn it. I was all ready to reveal that stat

552
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: and you're all over it.

553
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: Sorry, I don't want to. I don't want to take

554
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: your thunder, so I'll stop there before I I don't

555
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: want to ruin any of the preparation you did and

556
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: I'll run before days. I've just got done. I'm I'm delirious.

557
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: I've done this for all three hundred and sixty five

558
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: teams over the past week. So I guess let's start

559
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: high level. And do you think that there's a clear

560
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: Do you have a take on who the clear best

561
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: team is? Not?

562
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: Really? Because I had an Irvine regular season future and

563
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: they drove me nuts with some bad losses. To your point,

564
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: anybody in this league like they had the perfect format

565
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: for dropping the worst three teams because this league had

566
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: eight pretty good teams and three terrible ones, and it

567
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: worked out very well for them to end up like that.

568
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: I mean, Irvine's defense is always there, but they have

569
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: not been overly successful in the Big West Tournament under

570
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: Russ Turner. He's a fantastic coach, consistent every year, but

571
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: like not a Big West Tournament dominant team. So I

572
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: like the defense. I thought Saren, the Boomerang transfer that

573
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: spent a year at Stanford, would be a lot better

574
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: than he's been. He's been pretty inefficient. But then Hawaii,

575
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: I cannot believe they lost to Long Beach State to

576
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: lose a chance to share the title.

577
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: They lost the team a corpse of a long beach team.

578
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: Yep. I think Tanner Cuff got hurt in the preseason.

579
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: They were going to use him as like a point forward,

580
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: and that really threw out their approach this season. And

581
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: still we're very good because they're huge in the front court,

582
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: and then they have that great scheme kind of the

583
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 2: Randy Bennett tree for Aaron Cannot the coach. But then

584
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: beyond that, man, it is kind of a choose your

585
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: own adventure, pick your flavor. You see. San Diego, the

586
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: five seed has been the best team since February first,

587
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: on the flip side of that Hawaii stat, and they

588
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: have to win four and four days, whereas the worst

589
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: team since February first has to win two in two days.

590
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: So it's kind of topsy turvy, and it gives I

591
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: think a nice open to interpretation thing, like if you

592
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: like a team or you like odds, it may not

593
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: line up here. So I'm kind of having a hard

594
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: time with this one stuck. I like Irvine, but I

595
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: don't know if I love plus one forty five.

596
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: No, I can't get there at that price. I will

597
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: say my take. I'm going to bet them just because

598
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: this has been my take all year is at full strength, Santa.

599
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: Mar here's the best team. Me or little your boy.

600
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: Emir Little came back and if you look in January

601
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: when he played, is a top fifty team. In the

602
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: month of January, they did shoot forty two percent from three.

603
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: But he's there. He him on the ball als MAINI

604
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: to go off the ball. Everything else falls to the place.

605
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: He's their best perimeter defender by a mile, and everything

606
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: else locks into place. This is also you want to

607
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: talk about a team that they have an elite, elite

608
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: catch and shoot offense when they're at full strength, play

609
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: slow when so like, I'm glad that he got a

610
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: game under his belt. That's what I wanted to see.

611
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: I didn't want him to come back, you know in

612
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: the tournament for the first time. They've also been extremely

613
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: unlucky of late. I mean they lost to UC San

614
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: Diego at the Bell, they lost to Irvine by I

615
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: think a possession. Before then, they lost to Hawaii on

616
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: the road in overtime. They lost a season in overtime

617
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: by two, so they got really unlucky down the stretch.

618
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: I think at full strength they're the best offense and

619
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: they're the best overall team. Now it's not ideal the path,

620
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: but I make them if I it's hard to because

621
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: that with little the sample size isn't huge. And they

622
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: did shoot forty two percent from three, but the numbers

623
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: that I use, I make them like ten percent. You

624
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: know that they win fourth. So at ten to one,

625
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna throw a little bit on it, I

626
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: will say, Like looking at the other teams Fullerton and Northridge,

627
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: I I would need twenty to one and north Ridges

628
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: at twelve to one. Fullerton's at sixteen to one. They're

629
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: pretty similar. I mean, Fullerton is very small, they're fast.

630
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: They just hunt transition, but they'll shoot. They have a

631
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: very compact defense. They're a three point variants team. They're

632
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: turnover margin kings. Northridge is the second fastest team in

633
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: the country. They're fast, but they had not been the

634
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: same team away from home three hundred and forty eighth

635
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: per the metrics. They're whereas Fullerton. So both of them

636
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: are like compact defenses because they don't have rim protection.

637
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: Fullerton will shoot threes. Northwardges just get to the rim

638
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: at all costs, like just at all costs. They also

639
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: cannot shoot free throws. Northwich. Keep that in mind if

640
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: you bet Northwidge, they are one of the worst three

641
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: free throw shooting teams in the country. They are very

642
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: good on the glass, but Northridge and Fullarton are like

643
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: have a ton of similarities. And then you have cal Poly,

644
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: who's the fastest team in the country. Northwich is the

645
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: second fastest. They jack threes, they'll turn it over, they

646
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: play chaos games, they're fun to watch.

647
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: They're like the live betting King.

648
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: Go on. Yeah, big runs in their games. And then

649
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: you have one of the other reasons that I like,

650
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: uh Santa Barbara is they'll start with UC Davis. Now

651
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: you see Davis swept them in the regular season, but

652
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: you know one of them was in February and Niggee

653
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: and Little didn't play, and then the other one was

654
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: on January eighth, and that was Little's first game back.

655
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: So but the reason that I like this matchup here,

656
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: now that you see Santa Barbara's a full strength, I

657
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: think Cooper's done for the year for UC Davis, so

658
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: that's huge, and he was big against Santa Barbara this year.

659
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: So I don't think Dave. I don't think you see

660
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: Davis can get full strength. So I like Santa Barbara

661
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 1: in that game, but that's my take. I think Santa

662
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: Barbara is the best team. Their path isn't easy. I

663
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: needed at least ten to one to even think about it.

664
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: It's out there. That's how I'm playing, but this could

665
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: go a million different ways. One of the tournaments that

666
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to.

667
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: The most, Yeah, and it's always in that. It's in

668
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 2: the I think used to be called the Dollar Loan Center,

669
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: and Henderson I thought I felt as Lee's family for him,

670
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: that's what it's called. It just kind of feels like

671
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: a chaos venue too when I watch games there and

672
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: it's super late night the Big West Final always like

673
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: really late on Saturday night. To a point, on you

674
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: Santa Barbara's path, I like that they are not on

675
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: you see San Diego side, and they're not on Irvine side,

676
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: because I think those are like in a vacuum, the

677
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 2: two best teams, not by heading shoulders or anything, or

678
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: at least outside of Santa Barbara, and Santa Barbara has

679
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: probably the most talent. Pasternack's been really good at the Portal.

680
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: I don't know if they've got money or what it is,

681
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: but they bring in some really productive guys. I mean

682
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: Mahony getting him to come back West little from the

683
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: Big twelve. Katenj was awesome at Louisiana before he got

684
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: hurt last year. So the talent is really really good

685
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: on that team. And if they have to win four

686
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: in four days Davis Fullerton and Hawaii, who, as we mentioned,

687
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: just has not really been that good for a team

688
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 2: that's seeded that highly, that's not the worst four days

689
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: or four games and four days path, So I buy it.

690
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: I'm not like a giant Pasternac fan in terms of

691
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: maximizing his talent, but the roster is there, and that

692
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 2: side of the bracket is softer. See San Diego might

693
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: intrigue me four and four, but if I wish they

694
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: were on Hawaii side instead of Irvines, So yeah, you

695
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: could probably talk me into that Santa Barbara being the

696
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 2: best value there.

697
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: One thing I'll mention with.

698
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 3: You.

699
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: See San Diego, Yes, they'd been the best teams in February,

700
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: but no one can make it three against them. It's

701
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: worth owning because the teams will shoot a lot. I

702
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 1: think the teams are shooting twenty nine percent since February first.

703
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: But Barber if they win, they get Fullerton, and man,

704
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: that would be a fun watch. They won by fourteen

705
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: and one of the games, and then lost another by eleven,

706
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: and they didn't have little for either, for what it's worth,

707
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: and then against Hawaii they lost without Little, they just

708
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: lost on the road by three in overtime, and then

709
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: with Little they destroyed them at home. For what it's worth,

710
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: they were up twenty with like five to go one

711
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: by fifteen.

712
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: All right, any other thought, I don't think so. I mean, yeah,

713
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: I guess we kind of. We talked a little bit

714
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 2: about Hawaii and Ervine, the two top teams, but the price,

715
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 2: like even for only having to win two in two days,

716
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: you're you know, plus one forty five less than two

717
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: to one in Hawaii. I just that's not overly appealing

718
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 2: to me. You can just bet them money line or

719
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: you know, because you don't know who they're gonna play.

720
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, I can't really huge like these spreads are

721
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: all going to be exactly very close. All right, let's

722
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: move on to the whack this is This league is something.

723
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: The wild wild whack man. There's so many little little

724
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: ins and outs with this conference right now, it's it's insane.

725
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: So Utah Valley is the one seed. They'll get a

726
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: double by to the semis. Cal Baptist is the two seed.

727
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: They also get a double by to the semis uh.

728
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: This tournament, by the way, we'll start on Wednesday, will

729
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: all take place at Orleans Arena in Paradise, Nevada. The

730
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: playing game is Abilene Christian tarlatan Or. The first round

731
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: game winner will play Utah Tech other quarter final on Thursday.

732
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: The other quarter final game is U T Arlington Southern Utah.

733
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: Winner of Utah to Arlington Southern Utah will will play

734
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: Utah Valley and then Abilene Christian Tarleton winner will go

735
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: to Utah Tech. Winner that game plays cal Baptist. From

736
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: an odds perspective, Utah Valley's minus one fifteen. I actually

737
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: think that's fair. That's like kind of what I make it.

738
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: Usually with these favorites, I always think that they're way

739
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: beyond I don't see any value in it, but I'm

740
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: pretty close. Cal Baptist is plus one ninety, ut Arlington

741
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: is plus eight fifty, Utah Tech fourteen to one, Tarleton

742
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: twenty two to one, Abileen thirty five to one. All right,

743
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 1: where do we start Utah Valley is the best team,

744
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: although they haven't. They're not the same away from home

745
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: like they were super dominant at home. They got a

746
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: really beneficial call against Utah te probably should have lost

747
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: that game. But Jackson Holcome's awesome. They're elite, elite at

748
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: the rim both ways. They can be turned over. They'll

749
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: miss some free throws. Did Hendrickson they're two best Hendrickson

750
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: Anderston come back.

751
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's missed the last three, and I think that

752
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: matters a decent amount, like the spacing around their incredible

753
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: paint play. You want that guy because they don't have

754
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: a lot of shooting. The three hundred and nineteenth and

755
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: three point tenth th eight. He is the clear like

756
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: on the court to shoot guy, and he's If he's

757
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: not in there, it makes it a lot tougher. There's

758
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: not a ton of information out there on him. I

759
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: don't know for sure if he's going to play or not.

760
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: But that's at least worth like a little bit of

761
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 2: a discount to them in my mind.

762
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: Elsewhere cal Baptist's second favorite. They also the double buy

763
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: Dom Daniels, Dom Daniels pick and roll like. They're good rebounders.

764
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 1: They have an elite defense. They play really slow. Their

765
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: offense is pretty ugly. They want to attack the room,

766
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: but not that efficiently. It's all about Dom Daniels, Like,

767
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: for example, against Utah Valley, if that ends up being

768
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:00,240
Speaker 1: the final. In order to beat Utah Valley at home

769
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: earlier this year, Cal Baptist needed overtime and they needed

770
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: forty seven from Daniels in that game.

771
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 2: Nobody else had more than seven on their team. It's

772
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: it's absurd.

773
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's all about Dom Daniels. Canny lead this team.

774
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: Can he put the team on his back and win

775
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: two games? He could, But that's what you need to

776
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: know about them. Utah Tech, it's a pretty solid offense

777
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: Triolo Potter. They can score, they're the shooters of the league.

778
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: They can't rebound, they can't defend at the rim. They

779
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: ran pretty lucky from three I thought this year defensively, Yeah,

780
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: and so maybe there's some regression there. Ut Arlington. Ut

781
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: Arlington is basically cal Baptist, except they don't have Dom

782
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: Daniels and the offense is even uglier. They cannot shoot,

783
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: cannot shoot a lick. One of the ugliest shooting teams

784
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: you'll see but like I.

785
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: Got to talk running well from three defensively too, number

786
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: one of the defense.

787
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: Yes, uh, they need to score like off turnovers or

788
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: at the rim. It's they they put they have. They

789
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: profile very similar to cal Baptist, but just uglier offense

790
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: and no Dom Daniels Southern Utah. They have some guys

791
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: who can score, like bro Up Hayhurst, but they play

792
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: no defense none the major turn of issues. They play

793
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: really fast. There's this is a league of extremes and

794
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: the two most extreme teams are Abilene and Tarleton, who

795
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: will start off the tournament playing each other. Abilene plays

796
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: complete cast ball. I mean it's either a free throw

797
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: or a steal, and they don't they get to the

798
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: line and or they steal the ball. They do nothing

799
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: else well. And then Tarleton another cast and they don't

800
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: play any defense. They want to try to steal it.

801
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: They are an intriguing team. Like the coach with the

802
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: Gillespie who no longer coach him. They've they've had guys

803
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: hurt in and out of the lineup all year. Deor

804
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: Johnson Hicks, I mean all like all of them. Their

805
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: entire roster is in flux. They play games, they like,

806
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be fully healthy here on paper,

807
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: Do they have the most talent?

808
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: Maybe yes, yeah, yeah, the worst the worst seed in

809
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 2: the tournament, you can make that argument has the most talent.

810
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: But yeah, like I all season, you didn't know who's

811
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: gonna play, and McDowell's the one that's been out to the

812
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: last six games, seven games. Really good. But is he okay?

813
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: I mean he's really good too. He and deor Johnson

814
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: are like if you just put everybody in this league

815
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 2: in a gym, it's like Don Daniels and those two

816
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: are the three best players. Probably.

817
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. Charlton is a frustrating team to watch. I mean, look,

818
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: they will turn it over all the time. They'll force turnovers,

819
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: they go to the line a ton, they foul a ton.

820
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: I mean you go back and look at they never

821
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: take threes. They they'll be zero threes in their game

822
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: and they don't choot any Charlatan Abileene is just complete

823
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: chaos ball. I mean, there's gonna be a ton of turnovers,

824
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: a ton of free throws, horrendous shooting. But I might

825
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: make my annual donation on top.

826
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 2: I made a donation on them in the regular season

827
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: I sure did. Oh yeah, we didn't even mention this.

828
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: This league played a triple round robin, so everybody's played

829
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: each other three times already, so like there's tons of familiarity.

830
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: You can go find a result that backs up your narrative,

831
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: probably in any of the matchups, like everybody. There's not

832
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 2: a lot of triple sweeps that happened in this league.

833
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: So it's to add to the chast ball of just

834
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: Abilene and Tarleton. The whole league's got it.

835
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you have any takes on the middle? I mean,

836
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 1: could you get so how Baptist do you? I disagree

837
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: with anything I said. Any takes on ut Arlington Southern Utah?

838
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: No, I think you kind of hit like this, the

839
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: team style, the team type. I have a little more

840
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: intrigue about Utah Tech than you do. I think they're

841
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: not great in shot volume department because they can't rebound

842
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: and they don't force turnovers, but they can really shoot.

843
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: They're big, like you think this team's like tiny because

844
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: they're a bunch of shooters, but nobody's smaller than six

845
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: to four players in the rotation. They're pretty switchable defensively.

846
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: They've got some like plotters actually he's a Utah Valley transfer,

847
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: so like within the conference they were a factory of bigs.

848
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 2: He went south to join Utah Tech and they were

849
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: in the mix for the title up until the last

850
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: two games. They lost their rivalry game against Southern Utah

851
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: because those two schools are really close, and then lost

852
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: in double overtime Utah Valley in the final day of

853
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 2: the season. I kind of think they've got a little

854
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: bit more upside, Like I really like trueO the Juco Guarden.

855
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 2: He's kind of an mffort in my mind, like big

856
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 2: shot Maker has played in big games before, So fourteen

857
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 2: to one for them to win three and three days,

858
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: that at least interests me. I like that they're on

859
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: cow Baptist side, not Utah Valley side, because if you

860
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: just shut down ton Danas you got a chance. But

861
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: so Utah Tech was the one, odds wise that jumped

862
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: out to.

863
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: Me, will you be donating on Darleton and do you

864
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: discote me for doing it? I was hoping to get

865
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: a fifty to one.

866
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: If you're telling me that McDonald's going to play, then

867
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: I probably have to put in a little bit. It's

868
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: also like if I don't do it and they go

869
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: on and run. I'll feel so stupid, Like, well, I

870
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: knew they were the most talented team in the league,

871
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 2: and there's seven teams, why not take the flyer? So yeah,

872
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: we'll make our donation and move along.

873
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk a little American ten teams Naked

874
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: Memphis just snuck in, Rice, ECU and Utsa did not

875
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 1: make the cut the ten teams as we take place

876
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: in Birmingham first round on Wednesday, all the way through

877
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: to the championship on Sunday. South Florida and Wichita get

878
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: quadruple buys to the Semis and only have to win

879
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: two games in two days Saturday and Sunday, and Tulsa

880
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: get buys to the quarterfinals on Friday. This league, I mean,

881
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: maybe this league is hard to crack. I mean, how

882
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: in the world is Charlotte the five seed? They I

883
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: have no idea they're but for what they're complete snails.

884
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: They do have good depth, they have good size, but

885
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 1: they're shot volume losers, uh mingo running pick and roll,

886
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: and they also have some injuries. I don't know how

887
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: they're the five seed and Fau has to play on

888
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: Day one and coming into this I guess we'll start

889
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: the top. The clear best team is USF. They're the

890
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: most complete. Isaiah Nelson is just you should be the

891
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: conference player of the year, a NonStop motor on him.

892
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: They're only while other They've only lost once in regulation

893
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: in league play. They're only lost in December. First was

894
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: at Bama. ENUS has been an incredible fine for them.

895
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: Pinion provide shooting, They play super fast, up and down.

896
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: They're the best team in the league and if they

897
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: win this conference, they're a threat to pull off a game.

898
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're super talented. Coach by a Natos like disciple

899
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 2: in Hodgson, got a bunch of really like they got

900
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 2: Damian Nelson is like a backup big man or Damion Collins.

901
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: Excuse me, he was at Kentucky and LSU and he's

902
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: just a backup behind Nelson. Because they're so talented, they're deep.

903
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: They got like three Canadian freshmen they get in the rotation,

904
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 2: can get up and down with them two. They play

905
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 2: a ton of bench minutes. That's why they're like. They

906
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: overwhelmed people when they play fast and as you mentioned,

907
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: they've lost two games in overtime in the league play,

908
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: and once by one, like, they've lost by a combined

909
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,959
Speaker 2: five points in three league games, and they're that close

910
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 2: to eighteen and zero. Early on, I was frustrated with

911
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: him because I had regular season futures on them, and

912
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: then they just went lights out from February on the

913
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: top forty teams since February started.

914
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: Another exciting team is Tulsa. This is not a league

915
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: known for shooting. It's three point shooting. Tulsa is I

916
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: mean Tulsa. They have arguably the best offense in the

917
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: league forer kempom there they finished number one in the

918
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: league play. They have shooters all over I mean barn Stable,

919
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: Saint Thomas transfer, David Green they have, I mean they

920
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: have number gots to shoot forty percent from three. Their

921
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: offense is electric. Defense leaves a little bit to be desired.

922
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 1: Wichita State they do have elite size at the rim.

923
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: Will Berg leads the charge there of their das Legit

924
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: Giles is great. They can't really shoot, but they're good

925
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: on the offensive glass and they don't turn it over,

926
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: which helps. And then the other top four seed is

927
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: UAB which this is in Birmingham, so do they have

928
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: no chance? This is one of the most bizarre teams

929
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,959
Speaker 1: I've ever come across. They win every league road game,

930
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: and they lose almost every league home game unless they're

931
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: playing a dreg. They cannot shoot. One of the worst

932
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: shooting teams I've ever seen in my life. The UAB

933
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: makes zero sense to me other than they don't win

934
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: at home. They went on the road. This is in Birmingham, like,

935
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: so I don't know any thoughts on the other three

936
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: top four seeds.

937
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the UAB thing is funny, Like it's not

938
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: actually at uab's arena, So does it count as road

939
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: UAB or away from home? UABU to your point two

940
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: and seven at home in league playing nine to zero

941
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 2: on the road, like, it makes no sense. I think

942
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: for their last home game, Kennedy had him stay in

943
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 2: hotels because he's like, I just I need them to

944
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 2: feel like they're on the road, like they're trying desperately.

945
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: Has the metrics got him tent in the country and

946
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: there is away from home rating?

947
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: Probably no one. I got to talk to Eric about that.

948
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it's like one of the

949
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: top you know, if the top ten or actual Power

950
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: Conference teams or what. But yeah, u AB interests me.

951
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: I really like Tulsa. I love watching them play, and

952
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 2: I thought, you know, after non conference, I thought they

953
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: were maybe going to roll through this league. But then

954
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: North Texas tripped him up early and South Florida got

955
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 2: him in an up and down game. South Florida actually

956
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 2: swept them so and I wish they were If they

957
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: had the like other bye to the semi ahead of Wichita,

958
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: I would probably pick Tulsa, but it just toughens the

959
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: draw a little bit. I don't have immense respect for

960
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 2: this Wichita State team. I'm surprised they got the two seed.

961
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 2: They played really well down the stretch to get it.

962
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: They did earn it, But I think Tulsa is like

963
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: pretty clearly better, and would pick Tulsa to come out

964
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: of that side of the bracket.

965
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: I tend to agree. By the way, I'll give you

966
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars if you guess who's number one in

967
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: the away from home metric. It is not a power

968
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: conference team. I would have never a team in a

969
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 1: million years.

970
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it a swack team?

971
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 1: No? But that I would okay, it's not okay.

972
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, I don't think I'm gonna pull it

973
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: who is it?

974
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: Just name one random team I.

975
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 2: Major, Okay, pick a conference Sam Houston State. I know

976
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 2: they are good against the spread.

977
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: Now it's elon what okay?

978
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 2: Sure, alright?

979
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: Random?

980
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: Uh?

981
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: Delaware was number two, so u AB should be number one.

982
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: There's a lot of there's a lot of noise in

983
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: the note. But uh, looking at the rest of the bracket,

984
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: if you were trying to look at to find a

985
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: long shot, we don't know what now. Prices obviously matter

986
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: the rest of the bracket. The two teams that buys

987
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 1: to the second round, you have Charlotte, I mean, no, thanks,

988
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: I need what do I need? Before I even start

989
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: thinking about it, like sixty to one, I wouldn't bet it,

990
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: but like just to throw a number out there, I

991
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: think they're like probably two percent to win this and

992
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: it's probably less like the no no interest in Charlotte

993
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: North Texas. I need like a hundred to one. They

994
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: just they're the best defense in the league. I mean, yeah,

995
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: I guess I should say for Charlotte, I need I

996
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: need one hundred to one at least North Texas best

997
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: in the league. They play slow, but it's an absolute

998
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: brick show on offense. I have no interest in the

999
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: they're one of those teams.

1000
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: Nope, neither do I we haven't got there. I have.

1001
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: There's one team I kind of like a flyer on

1002
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: we haven't.

1003
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: I agree, there's one we don't got to yet. Top

1004
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: half you have. Tulane will play Memphis again. Memphis just

1005
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: beat him in overtime to end the seven game losing streak.

1006
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: Jim can't try to come on the podcast a month ago.

1007
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: Talent Memphis to win the league. They almost was so bad,

1008
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: so bad, Memphis is a mess. I mean, maybe you

1009
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: can make a Tarletan argument for them with their talent.

1010
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: They play fast, they can force turnovers and but here's

1011
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: the thing, they've been in this bad and no one

1012
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: can make a three against them in I'm shooting like

1013
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 1: twenty nine percent, and.

1014
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 2: I don't think this. Memphis teams that talented like it's

1015
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: Doug with Daniel Aaron Bradshaw has pedigree and I guess

1016
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 2: since your Parker.

1017
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 1: But then, like, I mean, but they have more talent

1018
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: than Tulane, Charlotte uab A right, so I'm saying they

1019
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: had the Yeah, but well, I what I saw against

1020
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: us after they ain't beating us, haf after fourth game

1021
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: in four days, so I will not be betting Memphis

1022
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: tu Lane. It's rowing Brumble and Zone. That's basically all

1023
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: you need to know about Tulane. In the bottom half,

1024
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: you have Temple, who's really really really bad slide to

1025
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 1: end the year, they fell off a cliff. I can't

1026
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: really figure them out. And then you have Fau, who

1027
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: is the team I am potentially interested in. Do you agree?

1028
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: Yep? Same one, yep. If they if they get Vanterpool back.

1029
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 2: I wish you would have played the same as girl

1030
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 2: little for UCSB if he had played a game before

1031
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 2: the tournament, I feel a little better. I believe his

1032
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: dad's getting talked about for which job is it, I

1033
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 2: can't remember, maybe Saint Bonaventure and so like there's I

1034
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: don't know, there's whispers he might like Portal to go

1035
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: play for his dad if he ends up at the

1036
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: Division IE level. But regardless, that team is a lot

1037
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: of talent in the back court. Canon Carlisle kind of

1038
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: shut me out this year. He was actually good after

1039
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 2: two horrendous years at the Power five level.

1040
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: And they were without him. They missed him dearly, so

1041
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: he was out for a while. Then he came back,

1042
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: and then Vanterpool, who's super important, he got hurt when

1043
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: they were at full strength. Like this is this is

1044
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: a this would have been you play out this conference

1045
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: one hundred times. This is the top four seed more

1046
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: often than not.

1047
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean, like their complimentary guys are maxim Blog

1048
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 2: was at Oregon State, Isaiah Ellehilm was like a top

1049
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 2: one hundred recruit at USC, Devin Williams was at UCLA.

1050
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: Like they did a really good job of kind of

1051
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 2: trying to rescue some talent and more or less kind

1052
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 2: of worked. They just had injuries and like the whole

1053
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: late January early February stretch where they swooned was because

1054
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: guys were out. And if they can get Vanterpool back

1055
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: and be fully healthy, then yeah, I mean this this

1056
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: team's good and they've got like one of the best

1057
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: freshmen in the league Josiah Parker too, who's finally in

1058
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 2: the starting lineup now.

1059
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: Half would be you start with Temple, then you play

1060
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: North Texas and they should have won at North Texas,

1061
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: they've lost by one, had like multiple chances to win

1062
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: that game and they were shorthanded. Then they would play

1063
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: Tulsa Wichita, before USF. I mean it's a daunting gauntlet

1064
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 1: where they have to win five games in five days.

1065
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish we had a price, do you like,

1066
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 2: what do you make it or what do you make them?

1067
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: I know with like the bracket just wrapped up, so

1068
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: for anybody listening, it's like hard to have all the

1069
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: calculations done on it and everything.

1070
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: But so that's why, Yeah, I got to figure out

1071
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: what I want to rate them at, which is going

1072
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: to be the key, Like the same thing with Tarleton,

1073
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: Like and then UCSB, like where do I rate them

1074
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: now that they're healthy, but like the sample size isn't

1075
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: great And then you just have a guy just coming back,

1076
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: so and we don't know, I Vanderbald is gonna play,

1077
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: Like last week Jacob said, yeah, we want to try

1078
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: to get him run on Saturday, which he didn't end

1079
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: up playing, but he hasn't been moving laterally yet and

1080
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: that was on Friday. But the boot is off, so

1081
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. And then you know, now you have

1082
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: to they really want. They were close to they had

1083
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: a chance, like the last week to get a double

1084
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: by which would have been huge. It would have been

1085
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: all over them, and.

1086
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: Then they got smashed by Wichita on the road.

1087
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I don't know. I I have a feeling

1088
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: that the price is not going to be friendly, Like

1089
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to price it out really quickly.

1090
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're, because you're going to need something really

1091
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: good for five and five days, assuming they have to

1092
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 2: go through North Texas and then at least they're on

1093
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: They're not on South Florida's side, but South Florida. They

1094
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: has to win one game to get to the title game,

1095
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: so they'll probably see them now.

1096
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: They did go to overtime with South Florida. It was

1097
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: the first game back for Carlos. It was an awesome game.

1098
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: It was at home, back and forth, could have went

1099
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: either way. I think they played with them. It was

1100
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: one of the best games I've watched this year.

1101
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was dialed for my South Florida regular season future.

1102
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: It's very you know, sweating till the end of that one.

1103
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. Can we get a fifty to one?

1104
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 2: I would think that's reasonable for five and five we're

1105
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: going to get it that highly rated.

1106
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll probably be like thirty to one, which I

1107
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: don't know if I can do.

1108
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that eats into the value quite a bit there,

1109
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: so I'm not too worried about Like the Temple game. First,

1110
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I should be a little more

1111
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 2: worried about it, but they won on the road at

1112
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 2: Temple the only time they played this year, so I

1113
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 2: don't know. Perhaps there's although they swept them, they did

1114
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 2: play at home also and it was a close game,

1115
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 2: so perhaps I should be a little more worried about

1116
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: that one. But again they were shorthanded. They didn't have

1117
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 2: Vanterpool in the second game.

1118
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, it's I don't know. With the uncertainy with

1119
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: Vanterabool having with five d's and five days South Florida,

1120
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: it is probably going to be in the final. It's

1121
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: it's tough. I might maybe run like a moneyline rollover,

1122
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: and then if vanterpools in, I'll have to price it out.

1123
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: I really have no idea where they're going to price them, Like,

1124
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: I have zero clue. What number would you bet? Would

1125
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: you bet fifty to one for some change?

1126
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so, I'd probably throw I don't know. Yeah,

1127
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,919
Speaker 2: that's not it's not a unit, that's for sure.

1128
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,959
Speaker 1: No, No, yeah, I guess, all right, picks, I'm gonna

1129
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: say South Florida wins it and is a threat upset someone.

1130
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say in the Big West, I'm gonna stick

1131
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: to my guns with Santa Barbara. Could they upset someone? Yeah,

1132
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,919
Speaker 1: I mean they have the shot making defense. They got

1133
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: to get the right matchup and then in the whack. Yeah.

1134
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: One other thought on the whack is it one hundred

1135
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: percent the last thought of this, Is it one hundred

1136
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: percent confirmed that Utah Volley's going to play in this?

1137
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 2: I think yes, it just recently became but like.

1138
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: There's no way it can get denied now, Like.

1139
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think that like the tro

1140
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 2: O the Temporarius training or extends through the duration of

1141
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: the tournament, So they can't just like pull the plug

1142
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 2: on them right before. God, that would be It'd be ridiculous.

1143
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: I guess whoever is playing them in the previous round

1144
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 2: and beats them when they just get a buy. If

1145
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 2: they just pulled the pullygut in Utah Valley, if they did.

1146
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: It before the journey, everyone would just move up a

1147
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: seed that they would scratch. I think that's what they said.

1148
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,479
Speaker 1: Conspiracy theorists whack reps them out of the game.

1149
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So reps on the payroll to just make sure

1150
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 2: they're not the representative. Yeah, I can see it.

1151
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: But I'll say it's the I don't know. I'll say

1152
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: Utah Valley wins it. And I do not think they're

1153
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: a threat in the tournament. And yeah, how about you,

1154
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: who's who your picks to win? And then do you

1155
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: think if whether or not you think they're a threat.

1156
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 2: I'll pick Irvine in the Big West, not not like

1157
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 2: betible value where it's at, but I think they could

1158
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 2: beat somebody just because their size and the defense. Like

1159
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 2: if somebody can't, it's gonna have to be a disgusting

1160
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 2: slot fest that they probably have to get a couple

1161
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: of guys to make shots more than it's matchup dependent too.

1162
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 2: If the other team can shoot and doesn't need to

1163
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: score at the rim, then they've got a better chance.

1164
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 2: But if they're playing like a rim re alliant team,

1165
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 2: that's what they can really take that away.

1166
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: I love that. One of my biggest bets of the

1167
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: first round in my life was when they played Kansas State.

1168
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,479
Speaker 1: And remember when Irvine played Kansas State.

1169
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was Dean Wade hurt or I can't

1170
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: remember if that's the year. Yeah, Dean Wade missed the

1171
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 2: tournament and they were soup.

1172
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: They were completely rim, reliant offense. It was like the

1173
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: perfect perfect matchup for Irvine. So if Irvine is going

1174
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: to be like a fourteen, probably, I mean we're getting bad.

1175
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: We like UNC Wilmington went down, Navy went down. It's

1176
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: getting ugly at the bottom.

1177
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 2: Yes, it is.

1178
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: So I mean there's a chance that they're a thirteen,

1179
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: So thirteen fourteen like if.

1180
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking at it, like the four seeds at Bracken Matrix, Alabama, Virginia,

1181
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 2: Texas Tech, Like that's that's too much shooting for Irvine.

1182
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 2: That's bad news. Yeah.

1183
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: The problem is you want to be like a if

1184
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: you can get up to Yeah, it's gonna be hard

1185
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 1: to get any upsets. Like the top five seeds are

1186
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,919
Speaker 1: very good, and then it's like the six, the six

1187
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: through eight, nine are all the six and sevens are

1188
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: all like your vulnerable group. Yeah, so like you want

1189
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: to get up to like that eleven twelve range. So

1190
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, they could be like a thirteen,

1191
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: which I don't know which four I would pick them against.

1192
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 2: Pray Carolina goes on a run the ACC and gets

1193
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 2: a four, no far or with no Wilson.

1194
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: What about Saint John's That's about the worst matchup.

1195
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Saint John's is like they're so good with shot volume,

1196
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 2: with turnovers and rebounding.

1197
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: Johns would turn Irvine over a million times. That's the

1198
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: only problem.

1199
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 2: Yes, they would. I was joking about that with somebody

1200
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 2: in our discord today about Queen's because they turned it

1201
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 2: over a billion times in the A Sun Finals. Like

1202
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 2: if they were to play Saint John's, somehow Queen's got

1203
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: like a fourteen, it's a three or thirteen and to

1204
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: four it would be a slaughter.

1205
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: Queens will be a probably at fifteen.

1206
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: I would I would be interested in betting the two.

1207
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,439
Speaker 1: I won't say that unless it's you know who would

1208
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: let them hang around as Yukon, because Yukon lets anyone

1209
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: hang around random.

1210
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: Very true. Okay, so sorry, Yeah, back to the whack

1211
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: might pick. I'm gonna go with Utah Valley as well.

1212
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 2: Don't really think their threat to beat anybody. They just

1213
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 2: they need like one more guard, especially if Hendrick's out

1214
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 2: and they don't have the shooting there. Yeah, that's so

1215
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: not there. And then in the American I'm gonna say

1216
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 2: Tulsa wins and goes on the mini run there. Not

1217
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 2: sure what price, I'm not sure if it'll be bettable,

1218
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 2: but I really like that offense, and I'm kind of

1219
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 2: pumped at Concole actually got them rolling again because they

1220
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 2: were terrible for a couple of years.

1221
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,919
Speaker 1: So bad. Yeah, they're They're fun. You want to watch

1222
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: a fun team that can shoot, check out Tulsa, all right,

1223
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: it will be fun. Tulsa would be what a because

1224
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: South Florida is probably be like eleven. If they would,

1225
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: Tulsa would.

1226
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 2: Be a thirteen twelve twelve.

1227
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tulsa Alabama that game.

1228
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 2: That game would light up scoreboards and power cities.

1229
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: Yep, good stuff, mister Root. That'll do it for us.

1230
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: Thanks to Jim and Kui for joining me. Thanks to

1231
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: our producer David on the back end. Most funny. Thanks

1232
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: all you for doing AMICTU scrab Scrap Tel Front one

1233
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: Enemy Part five is also out. I did that earlier

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01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: today with Greg and Christian. We covered acc QUSA, Big

1235
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: twelve and some others, and then we'll finish the rest tomorrow.

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01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone following along. Try to put as much time

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Speaker 1: and effort to get these as good as they possibly can.

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01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,080
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