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Speaker 1: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson. This

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Speaker 2: is our number two of the drive here on Steelers

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio, and Matt, it's Friday and it's time for

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Speaker 2: the fantasy football focus. That means it's mock draft time.

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Speaker 2: Okay here for us. And don't know if this has

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Speaker 2: crossed your mind. It just hit my nutle low for

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Speaker 2: the first time. It's gonna be a little different during

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Speaker 2: the weeks in Latroe. But are we gonna fantasy it

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Speaker 2: up with Rob?

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Speaker 1: We don't have to sprinkle in a little here and there.

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Speaker 2: We'll get Rob hooked on some fantasy stuff.

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Speaker 1: Here he can hang. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So looking here at we using the Draft Wizard on

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Speaker 2: fantasypros dot Com as we usually do.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The names of the teams here Fantman number one, Uh

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Speaker 2: fits to a t at number two.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you have the Taylor Swifts. They stole that from you,

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Speaker 1: right right. Uh, that's it. Three.

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Speaker 2: The Wattleburger is four. Bend it like Beckham is five.

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Speaker 2: Wild Goose Chase is number number six. Seven is the

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Speaker 2: storm Hoopers. Seven is a Jackson of all trades. I

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Speaker 2: think we've had that one already this year anymore. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't believe he is banquet of flowers or bouquet

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Speaker 2: of flowers, I should say, I can I can read

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Speaker 2: uh diamivice like that one or number eleven and can't

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Speaker 2: stop the theling. We're picking ninth in this one.

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Speaker 1: I don't love this neighborhood, but I'm excited to do it. Well,

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Speaker 1: you might like this, Okay.

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Speaker 2: So the first pick was McCaffrey, Ceedee, lamb Tyreek Hill,

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, A Monros, Saint Brown, Justin Jefferson, B Jehn Robinson,

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Speaker 2: A J. Brown, So, Brees Hall is available, Breese Hall

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Speaker 2: is available. Yeah, you've also got Garrett Wilson, Poka Nakua

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Speaker 2: also there, Marvin Harrison Junior, DeVante Adams.

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Speaker 1: He stands out. I think Hall. Yeah, I think that's

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Speaker 1: a slam dunk. Who are the two receivers went ahead

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Speaker 1: of him. I know Saint Brown, which I could understand.

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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson and Saint Brown. A J. Brown went to

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Speaker 1: oh A J. Brown. Yeah that's not insanity, but okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean that was a gift though. Well tell well

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Speaker 1: for us, Yeah, we'll take that all. Don't take We'll

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Speaker 1: take brisall. Yes, okay, and we get a quick turn here.

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Speaker 1: I would consider going three receivers in a row now,

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, let's tell shakes out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the top suggested player for us is Jonathan Taylor. Okay,

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Speaker 2: DeVante Adams is still there? Interesting, Chris Olave, Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: The receivers Adams, Pittman a lave ayuk picked.

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Speaker 1: Through pretty well. Yeah, I don't why Taylor's still there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily love that the running backs. You're looking

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Speaker 1: at Taylor at M but check o, Karen Williams. I

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Speaker 1: think you make a case for Adams. But Taylor's kind

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Speaker 1: of a gift too, it really is. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: other guys that you mentioned are running back aren't close

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Speaker 1: and they're all going to be gone at three. I

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Speaker 1: definitely didn't plan on going running back running back. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that's if you if you get rush down in the

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Speaker 1: draft like that, you could get Gibbs or yeah. One

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Speaker 1: of the means, yeah, does Adams worry you at all?

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Speaker 1: He slightly worries me with the addition of Bowers and

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Speaker 1: just terrible quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Is minceh you minshew. If you look at what he

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Speaker 2: did with Pittman last year, that doesn't scare me. At

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Speaker 2: all because he will be well Pepper Davante Adams with targets.

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Speaker 2: He knows where his brothers.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, right, and I think they will be Minshew,

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Speaker 1: that's a pretty strong point. I still think you take Taylor, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have a problem with it either way.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I'm a little worried about Taylor's rushing

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Speaker 1: touchdowns the short stuff. Now, I hear you, but he's

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Speaker 1: really talented player. Bryest saw Jonathan Taylor is not a

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Speaker 1: bad start in a really running back weak group. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now we really don't even have to look at running

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Speaker 2: back out, not for a while, for a long time, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: wide receiver available here in round three. Dj Moore, Dk Metcalf,

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Speaker 2: DeVante Smith. Stuff on Diggs.

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Speaker 1: Moore is my favorite of that.

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Speaker 2: Moore kind of all these metcalfs, he's good, pretty pretty

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Speaker 2: solid tight end. You're still looking at Samport we go

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Speaker 2: porta Kelsey McBride, Mark Andrews.

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Speaker 1: But one will be there around the turn. One will

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Speaker 1: be there. I'm sure quarterbacks or.

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Speaker 2: Quarterbacks Mahomes, Jackson, Richardson Stroud.

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Speaker 1: DJ Moore would be my pick. I am interested in

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Speaker 1: taking Seahawks, though. I mean they've been at the bottom

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Speaker 1: of the league and plays run. I don't think that'll stay.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's their new offensive coordinator and they threw

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Speaker 1: a million plays, but it's gonna go up a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, DJ Moore's the pick. Yeah. He had a

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Speaker 1: really good year last year. He's a good player. Yeah

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Speaker 1: he is. Okay, we're back up here now.

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Speaker 2: The receivers available Digs Cooper, Kirk, Jay Flowers, I bet

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Speaker 2: Pete Keenan Allen, George Pickens.

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Speaker 1: I know this sounds homer ish. Pickens is like my

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Speaker 1: eighteenth receiver. I like him or Christian Kirk here, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm I don't dislike Kirk, but I definitely can see

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Speaker 1: you like Kirk more than I do. I definitely I

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Speaker 1: like Kirk some of those.

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Speaker 2: Other better than some of those other receivers, because I

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Speaker 2: think Kirk is going to clearly be the number one

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Speaker 1: I think you will too. I think he's a lot

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Speaker 1: like Amari Cooper though a good player, not great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the one, but it's not going to win you the league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's take a look at tight end here. Laporta

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Speaker 2: is still there, Kelsey.

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Speaker 1: think that's the value. You might even get Pickens, you

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Speaker 1: might even get Kirk, might get one of those. For

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Speaker 1: those two, we probably get spot that long await and

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Speaker 1: we get maybe the top tight end. That's a nice

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Speaker 1: advantage against every team you play. Yeah, I think that's

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Speaker 1: a move. Let's do it. Yeah, out a second receiver

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Speaker 2: I mean, and that kind of makes up like we're

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Speaker 2: going to be better than most teams at tight end.

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Speaker 1: You would think, right, I mean he's on.

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Speaker 2: You know, even if we're a little bit lesser at

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Speaker 2: wide receiver receiver, there's there's there's probably going to be

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Speaker 2: four or five teams where we're heading shoulders above.

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Speaker 1: Them at tight end. Running back and tight ends where

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Speaker 1: our bread's buttered. And if we can be break even

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Speaker 2: This works out beautifully here we get we might get

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Speaker 1: So Flowers is there?

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Speaker 2: T Higgins is there, Christian Kirk, is there? McLaurin, Chris Godwin,

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Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley, Up, I think Pickens went, Deontay Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like Pickens went fine with Kirk att this,

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Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin. There's other names I like that should be

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Speaker 1: there after this, but I'm fine with Kirk at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pickens went at five to three, so we just

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Speaker 2: missed that on that one.

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Speaker 1: But Kirk, Yeah, yeah, that's a solid two. Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna get you. I think he is

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Speaker 2: I mean you're looking at twelve points, I would think,

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Speaker 2: and then if he scores, you know, eighteen to Like.

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Speaker 1: I love Brian Thomas Junior, but I can't imagine he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a target hog rookie year. He's a rookie.

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Speaker 1: He might score a lot of touchdowns, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a targets Ingram's a target hog.

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Speaker 2: The receivers here at six six ' four Rashid Rice,

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Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin, Calvin Ridley, Deontae Johnson, Jalen, Jayden, Reid, Hollywood Brown,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, quarterback, I think Deanta is the guy there.

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Speaker 2: Quarterbacks Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Dak Prescott, Jordan Love.

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge Kyler Murray believer. I think he's an run.

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Speaker 2: The Jayden Daniels. I'm a big Jordan Love guy here too.

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Speaker 1: You wanna wait then, I mean one of those guys,

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Speaker 1: there's a good chance quarterback. Probably get one of those guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: pro fall. But let's just take a look at running

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Speaker 1: back here real quick.

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Speaker 2: Well, Aaron Jones, Romandree Stevenson, James Connor, DeAndre Swift.

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Speaker 1: Can they be our flex? Yeah? Aaron Jones is a flex.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty appealing to me, and it's nice.

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Speaker 2: It's nice to have that, you know, one of those

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Speaker 2: two guys that you.

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Speaker 1: Know are going to get the football trade Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 1: in Week two? Yeah, a j. Brown. You know, somebody's

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Speaker 1: we have great running back depth and as we've seen

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Speaker 1: in previous drafts, like there's probably teams that haven't taken

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Speaker 1: their second running That's what I say is I think

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Speaker 1: there's more quality running backs than usual in this particular draft.

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Speaker 1: So when they give you red paint, you know what

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Speaker 1: I Aaron Jones it is? Ye, Yeah, I like Stevenson too,

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Speaker 1: but Jones is a great pick there. Yeah, okay, and

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Speaker 1: we're starting anyways. I mean that's a these are flex

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Speaker 1: right right. Okay, now we look at that. We don't

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Speaker 1: even really need to do anything else at running back. No,

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Speaker 1: we might take one later that you hope hits, but

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Speaker 1: we're pretty solid there. Yeah, Wads.

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Speaker 2: Is still there or She Rice, Jayden Reid, Jackson, Smith

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge Smith and Jigba fan, but I think

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Speaker 1: Deontay is probably a tier ahead of him. Still, Portland,

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Speaker 1: two if we get two of those guys. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: like it pretty good about that. Racy Rice to me

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Speaker 1: is not an option. I don't think he's gonna play

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we take Deontay there as our three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, absolutely think targets we're talking about. That's a

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Speaker 1: that's a good three, and a lab McConkie went right

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Speaker 2: Well, Rashi, Rice, She actually Smith and Jigba Jordan Addison,

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Speaker 1: I got no problem taking Smith is my four right,

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Speaker 1: what'll be nice high upside for Well, we'll probably know

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Speaker 1: this by the time most people are drafting in two

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Speaker 1: receiver sets. I wonder if he beats out Lockett this year. Good? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he could. I think he could. I think

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Speaker 1: Locke could be another team, maybe the Steelers. Here, we're

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Speaker 1: up here at nine to nine. We're still don't taken

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Speaker 1: our quarterback yet. No, we better start thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the receivers available, key On Coleman, Mike Williams, Curtis Samuel,

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Speaker 2: Jamison Williams. Running back, you're looking at Austin neck, Lar Exequel, Elliott,

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Speaker 2: Nick Chubb, Chase Brown. Quarterbacks rock party to a tag

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Speaker 2: of I loa Caleb Williams, Jared Goff. We're kind of

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Speaker 1: Probably should just do it. Which one you want? Party?

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Speaker 1: I guess, I guess. Yeah, he runs a little more

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Speaker 1: than two. Let's get throw a touchdown pass, I mean

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Speaker 1: doublephin take two as well. He's still available. Let's see

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Speaker 1: what else is out there. But it's not the worst

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Speaker 1: idea I ever heard.

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Speaker 1: If we don't start a more tradehim. I like him

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, defensive special teams here a kicker Justin Tucker's available.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the can the experts like that draft way

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Speaker 1: We get a last week ninety one out of one

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Speaker 1: And there's deals to be made though. Yeah, somebody shopping

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Speaker 1: It's not an uncommon strategy anymore. Yeah, your big brother

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Speaker 2: The team that picked eighth took a J Brown, Nico Collins,

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Speaker 2: The team that picked Eleventho Garrett Wilson, Marvin Harrison, DeVante Smith.

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Speaker 1: I think I looking at this, I like our team

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some teams here, but waited way late till

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're starting Cole Comet. Well you know that's I'm

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's going to do it for the fantasy football focus.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolley.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with more right after this. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt we I think we've

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Speaker 2: gone through all the other positions in Jeremy Fowlers.

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Speaker 1: One except for one, and that will be interior offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: Do we do corners? Yes? Okay, I couldn't remember, ye okay.

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Speaker 1: Is the series concluded? I think it is done. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's take a look at that interior offensive

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, boy, that group's getting paid a lot lately. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So looking here at the guys who the executives and

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Speaker 1: Brandon Shurf with Jacksonville. Arro's going the wrong way on

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Speaker 2: Ryan Kelly with the Colts kind of the same thing.

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Speaker 2: center too. Osyrius Torrens with the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, second round pick.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Dolmond with the Falcons. O.

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Speaker 1: People don't know. He's a movement based center that they

434
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Speaker 1: got a lot out of. Arthur Smith. I'm sure, its.

435
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Speaker 2: High on the guys who were honorable mentions.

436
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Speaker 1: Quinn Miners just got paid huge, and I bet he's

437
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Speaker 1: much higher next year. Lloyd Cushionberry just got paid huge.

438
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Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll be higher, but that's a

439
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 1: nice pickup for the Titans. Michael and Awaynu Okay, he's

440
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Speaker 1: playing right tackle for them. Yeah, he might tackle last season.

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Speaker 1: I know. I think he'd be better at guard. Yeah,

442
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,880
Speaker 1: they need tackle. They're not gonna play it. Yeah, they're

443
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Speaker 1: gonna play it tackle again this year. We really shouldn't

444
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Speaker 1: be in this extra shouldn't be. Yeah, I mean he's

445
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Speaker 1: been a tackle for a lot time time.

446
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: Robert Hunt with the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got so overpaid. I mean he was,

448
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 1: he's in the twenty million club now. I mean he's good,

449
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 1: but man, he's now a panther. Eric McCoy with the Saints. Okay,

450
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people think that might be the worst

451
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: OH line in the league this year. Not necessarily his fault.

452
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: Just a note there. Tyler Smith with the Cowboys. Is

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Speaker 1: he a tackle or they drafted guy? And I think

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Speaker 1: he's going to be He could be, Yeah, but I

455
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: think he's would be like my second or third best

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Speaker 1: guard in the league and Whyatt teller Okay, probably going

457
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: the wrong direction too slowly.

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Speaker 2: I like what they say here about him. He's good, powerful,

459
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Speaker 2: but he's one of those PFF superheroes.

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Speaker 1: That's over valued a little bit or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Loves him.

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Speaker 1: I remember he loves him two or three years ago.

463
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Speaker 1: He like broke their charts. Like, I mean, I don't

464
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Speaker 1: think he's John Hannah. It's fine.

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Speaker 2: Number ten, uh, he was number four last year or

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Speaker 2: his highest ranking four were lowest ranking un ranked last

467
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Speaker 2: year he was for that's Elkton Jenkins with the Packers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, quality player. He's got some versatility too, but he's

469
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Speaker 1: settled in real quick on those Browns. You know, they

470
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Speaker 1: basically lost Mike Munchak. You know, let's see if the

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Speaker 1: if the Wyatt Tellers that aren't first round pick super

472
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Speaker 1: athletes when their technique slips a little with the line

473
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Speaker 1: coach change, Let's just see how it goes.

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Speaker 2: Number nine, his highest ranking was four, lowest ranking unranked

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Speaker 2: last year, he was honorable mention.

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Speaker 1: That's Tray Smith. He's a smidg overrating. I yeah, I

477
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Speaker 1: don't get it with him. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's

478
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Speaker 1: good he was a Frankly, if he's a panther, he's

479
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Speaker 1: on this list though. I mean like he's in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs all times. In super Bowl time, they got him

481
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Speaker 1: the sixth round or fifth round. It's a great story.

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Speaker 1: It's a great story.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know that he's the ninth best interior.

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Speaker 1: No got much rather Tyler Smith or Linderbaum or minors

485
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Speaker 1: or scubble guys. We mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Number eight, highest ranking, five, lowest ranking, unranked. Last year

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Speaker 2: he was number ten. Frank Ragnow who Frankly.

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Speaker 1: The fact that someone didn't rank him, Yeah, that's crazy

489
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Speaker 1: to me, which hurts him obviously in the where he

490
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Speaker 1: ended up. He's in the mix for best center in

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Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, yeah, that was eight overall. Eight. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's gonna be good guys ahead of him,

493
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: of course, but that's a little rough on him.

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Speaker 2: Number seven, highest ranking, number one, lowest ranking, number eight.

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Speaker 2: Last year he was number eight, Crete Humphrey.

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Speaker 1: I think he's overrated too to get a number one. Yeah,

497
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Speaker 1: it's harsh. I don't think problem with him and the

498
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Speaker 1: rag Now being right next to each other. If you're

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Speaker 1: like one better than the other, I get it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's Also, I'm snapping to Mahomes. I'm lefty, you know,

501
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: like I'm on National TV a lot. If you watched

502
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Speaker 1: his snaps last year, there was no difference between him

503
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Speaker 1: snapping the football and Mason Cole snapping football.

504
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Speaker 2: They were all over the place. It just so happens.

505
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Speaker 2: Mahomes is an outstanding athlete and was able to overcome

506
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Speaker 2: some of that.

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Speaker 1: He's not a good snapper of the football. No, the

508
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: shotgun stuff's the problem.

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Speaker 2: Number six, highest ranking, number one.

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Speaker 1: I bet we're don't centers then yeah, probably, uh, lowest

511
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Speaker 1: ranking unranked last year he was an audible mention Landon Dickerson.

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Speaker 1: He's one of those twenty million dollar guards. Number one though,

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Speaker 1: that's a little crazy, not be my guard, but he

514
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Speaker 1: would be in my top ten overall. Yeah, big time

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Speaker 1: wide body guy. Another one. I mean sometimes I look

516
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Speaker 1: at these teams mentioned the Browns. Stoutland with the Eagles

517
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Speaker 1: is absolutely in this category that an Alito line coach

518
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Speaker 1: gets a lot out of these guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, number five, highest ranking, number one, lowest

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Speaker 2: ranking seven. Last year he was fifth.

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Speaker 1: Joel Patonio. I'm surprised he's getting a one vote though, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who's voting.

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Speaker 2: Joel Patty, I mean, okay, the Cleveland executive voted in

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Speaker 2: number one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think we both like him better

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Speaker 1: than Teller. Yeah, he's finding the top ten. He's had

527
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Speaker 1: a really really good career. But I don't know he's special. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's not Alan Fanic. No, he's on Mark Steve number four,

529
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 1: highest ranking, two, lowest ranking, unranked. Last year he was

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Speaker 1: number two. That's Joe Thuney. Okay, tackle turn guard and

531
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Speaker 1: he plays that way really agile and protection and smart. Yeah.

532
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: Not a masher, I mean, not the most gifted dude

533
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Speaker 1: in the world. What they want. Yeah, it's a good

534
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Speaker 1: mix and he's a lot different than the other guard.

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Speaker 1: Smith on the list number three, highest ranking, one lowest

536
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Speaker 1: ranking ten. Last year he was number three. Quentin Nelson.

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Speaker 1: I think he was back in a big way after

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was number one though last year

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00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: that he shouldn't have been won last year. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: this past he was really good this past season. The

541
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: year before that, like all the Colts, he was a mess.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's why they were picking four or five

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Speaker 1: for Richards. Yeah, I mean they were bad. Yeah, their

544
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Speaker 1: line was real bad.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Number two highest ranking one, lowest ranking, unranked, he's number

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Speaker 1: two on Yeah, last year he's number seven. That's Chris

548
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: Linstrom with the Falcons. He must have had a lot

549
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Speaker 1: of top three pick three if somebody had money, if

550
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Speaker 1: somebody unranked him, are you kidding me? He's another He's

551
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Speaker 1: a stud, twenty plus million dollar guard in his prime,

552
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Speaker 1: runs like the wind. Yeah, I mean he's a great player,

553
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Speaker 1: he's a stud. He's a stud. Can somebody have won ranked?

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Speaker 1: I don't get that. Yeah, you watch some of the

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00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: stuff he did with the Arthur Smith's run game.

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Speaker 2: Well, and then you look at this, uh number one,

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Speaker 2: highest ranking one, lowest ranking nine. I'll bet this is

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Speaker 2: the only number one guy on any of these lists

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Speaker 2: that we've gone here who has that kind of range.

560
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Speaker 1: And I know there's no stats for interior line, and

561
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: you know it's center's versus guards of conversation, but still

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Speaker 1: I assume missus Zach Martin. Yeah, Okay, last year he

563
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Speaker 1: was number one. He's still number one. He's thirty three.

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Speaker 1: So you expect to start slipping at some point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it'll stay there. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: he's had an amazing somebody had him nine had him nine,

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Speaker 1: Come on, man nine and you still end up one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So how many first plays vot? Did he get it?

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Speaker 1: A bunch? Yeah? I like that one with Sandos Tiers.

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00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: He'll tell you six first place votes three. You know,

571
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: it tells you exactly how you got there, not just

572
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: the top of the ball. Tell me how the sausage

573
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: is made. Yeah, okay, Seemlu was mentioned. Yep, it's not

574
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: an easy list to crack. You're talking to, right, three

575
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: starters for every team, there's ninety six of them, give

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Speaker 1: or take. I mean that's Wre talking about ten. I'm

577
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Speaker 1: not saying I mean I think the answer is yes,

578
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: could any of the three Daniels, Fraser, Samalu crack the

579
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Speaker 1: be on there last year? Yes? I think multiple could

580
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Speaker 1: be top ten? Probably not, yeah, you know top ten.

581
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: You might maybe two years from now. Fraser is a

582
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: top three center, but it takes a whileuntil you get recognized.

583
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: It does, and again to your point, it helps to

584
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Speaker 2: make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Nobody knows the guard, right, it helps to play for

586
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: Dallas and be a national TV a lot. And yeah,

587
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: someone in the booth is raving about how great you are. Yeah, right,

588
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: or go to Super Bowls, no question. Yeah, absolutely, But

589
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: doesn't help to be a panther. It does not, It

590
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: does not. Yeah, I'm surprised rag now was as low

591
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: as he was, but I could see him being higher too,

592
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: especially with another NFC Championship performance. And yeah, I just

593
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: look at what he did last year. I mean he

594
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: was playing on one leg last year. Now he's gotten that. Yeah,

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00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: I have a Zach fraserfield to him. Actually absolutely, Yeah,

596
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: that's that's not a bad call.

597
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 2: But that was Jeremy Fowler's list of the top ten

598
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: interior offensive lineman for twenty twenty four, as pulled by.

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Speaker 1: The league executives, coaches, and scouts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've gone through all those. Now he is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the drive here

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back to finish up

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Speaker 2: the show right after this. Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive

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Speaker 2: on Dealer's Nation Radio. And Matt the thirty third team

606
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: put together a ranking here of and this was done

607
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: by Ian Valentino, the best quarterbacks in team history for

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Speaker 2: each team.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Now I haven't looked Steelers have at dispute

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00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: at least. Yeah, there'll be some easy one, of course. Yeah,

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00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some that you look at, goa no kid,

612
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: best quarterback? Yeah, no kidding, Okay, let's go through it. Though.

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00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: I've never thought of this as a global thing. So

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00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: let's start with the Steelers, because we may, we may.

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00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: I would pick Ben. I would pick Ben as well.

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00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: Argument both ways.

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Speaker 2: There are some fans who would say, oh, Bradshaw won

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Speaker 2: four Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. It absolutely is amazing. Yeah, and he called

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Speaker 1: his plays and played I mean got hit in the

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Speaker 1: head by great. I mean, it's a different world, completely

622
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: different world.

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Speaker 2: Yes, My thing would be if I put Ben, If

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Speaker 2: I get a time machine and I take Ben Roethlisberger

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Speaker 2: and drop him into the middle of that nineteen seventy

626
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Speaker 2: four Steelers team, of which Bradshaw wasn't a full time

627
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Speaker 2: starter that season, Roethlisberger probably leads them.

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Speaker 1: To four Super Bowls, maybe five, maybe five. I mean

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Speaker 1: I'd say they're every bit is good, if not better, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and probably better maybe even last. Maybe you're winning them

631
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Speaker 1: in the eighties, right, you know what I mean? Yeah,

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00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean Ben played a long time, played a long time.

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Speaker 2: All right, So that was a Steelers pick. For the

634
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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Jim Kelly, yeah, okay. For the Dolphins, Dan Marino, sure,

635
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Speaker 2: that's pretty cotton dried.

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Speaker 1: I mean these are top These are Hall of famers

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00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: New England of course, Tom Brady, of course, the Jets

638
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: is Jim Yeah, I mean Rogers can't even be in

639
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: the conversation. Yeah, no, that doesn't count. For the Ravens,

640
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: pretty long stretch between Nameth and Rogers, and it's a

641
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: long stretch of Sanchez and Pennington.

642
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: And yeah, the Ravens is Lamar Jackson, no doubt, no doubt.

643
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: I mean Flacco won, but no, yeah, right. For the

644
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: Bengal Ken Anderson, Okay, what about Carson Palmer, I go Ken,

645
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: Ken Anderson led these. I think he should be a

646
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer.

647
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he should be in the Hall of Fame. I

648
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: don't see Carson Palmer making the home either.

649
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: Say that's the only burrough could pass both. Yeah, yeah,

650
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: but not a couple more years. He's not there yet.

651
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: For the Browns, Auto Graham okay, and yeah played a

652
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: long time ago, and that's awesome, But let's pretend Auto

653
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: Graham didn't exist. Sipe, Vinnie. I mean, it's a bad list.

654
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: It's a really bad list for in a lot of

655
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: names on it.

656
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: Well, Bernie Cozar, I guess would probably be the guy.

657
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I was kind of young, but I thought

658
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: Sipe pretty good for a while. Wasn't that long though?

659
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: Was it a short stretch? Yeah? Man, I mean, and

660
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: Autogram makes it look a lot better. Of course it's autogram. Yeah,

661
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: of course it is autogram. But he played in the

662
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: fifties right after post Graham is not good in the

663
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: ANFC South.

664
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: For the Houston Texans, Matt Schaub.

665
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: Soon to be unseated. It's an easy team to get

666
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: to the top though. Yeah, and he wasn't.

667
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: Terrible, No, he was good for the Colts. Is Peyton Manning.

668
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: Better than Johnny Unitas, Yeah, I'm so biased because I

669
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: watched one and on the other. But but I mean,

670
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: if luck is your three, that's a pretty the y.

671
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: They're coming with the Packers in terms of putting up

672
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: some great ones. But Unitas you talked to.

673
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: Labarrilla, Bob Lavarilla will tell you Johnny Unitas is the

674
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: greatest quarterback He's ever.

675
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: When I was a kid that was drilled into my head.

676
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: And then eventually people said, I'm Montana, I think can

677
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: overtake him. But when I was taught football, Unitas was

678
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: the greatest of all time, and so I guess I'm

679
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: going with Uniteds. No one's ever said I don't think

680
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: Payton's a great of all time. That's amazing. But yeah,

681
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, he'd be top of twenty teams, but not

682
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: that one. For Jacksonville Brunell, Mark Brunell, you'd hope Lawrence

683
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: passes him, but yeah, yeah, no, no, no, uh. For

684
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, Warren Moon McNair has a case, but

685
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: Moon is better. Yeah.

686
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: I mean they had some guys at the end of

687
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: their career, got like Archie Manning and Matt hassel By,

688
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: ken Stave Collins, George Blanda, but not in uniform. Yeah,

689
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: some of those guys are Hall of famers, but right, yeah, yeah,

690
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: not for them. For the Denver Broncos, John.

691
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: Elway, easy Peyton Manning was good there, but of course

692
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: it's not close.

693
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: For the Kansas City Chiefs Patrick Mahomes.

694
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: Of course Montana wasn't at his best. No, he played

695
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: two years. Right. Lynn Dawson's a Hall of Famer. Yeah,

696
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: but mahomes Is won. Uh. For the Raiders, Stabler Lamonica

697
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: was good. Jim Plunkett won a couple of pretty strong Yeah,

698
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: but I think it has to be a Snake.

699
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: For the Los Angeles Chargers, Philip Rivers, you're taking Rivers

700
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: over and Foults.

701
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: Yes, barely. I don't think I am. I'm a big

702
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: Rivers fan. Fous was ahead of his time, Fos was

703
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: ahead of his Fous is going to the Hall of Fame.

704
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: I don't know that Rivers ever makes it. I think

705
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: fouls is in, that's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rivers to

706
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: me is a Hall of Famer, and I love his

707
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: toughness and I always thought that he was hindered by

708
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: those around him. But it was like blasphemy for eight

709
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: year old Matt Williamson. But I had a Dan Fouts

710
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: jersey like I only wore Steeler gear. Don't get me wrong,

711
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: But he was so different and this scheme and the

712
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: receivers they had and really fun. That's a close one, though.

713
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: Herbert's a long way from me unseating those guys. Oh yeah.

714
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: For the Cowboys, Roger Staubach, Yeah, but Aikman's on your bench.

715
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: Bad Romos or three or whatever.

716
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 2: For the Giants, Eli Man got to be in Phil Simms.

717
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: He won two Super Bowls.

718
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: They both did. I mean Eli is one of the

719
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: most overrated players NFL history to me, Yeah, but is

720
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: he better than Phil Simms? Maybe? Probablyretty close, different era.

721
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: I get it was tough for the Eagles. They're a

722
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: bad one.

723
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: Donovan McNabb is to pick here as.

724
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: Long as they've been around. They're not so great either.

725
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Ron Jaworski, Randall Cunningham was really exciting, but I don't

726
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: think he was there super long. That's pretty bad for

727
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: a pretty decent franchise. How about this one for Washington Thighsman,

728
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: they're going with slinging Sammy Bob.

729
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: Okay, I guess if you go way back, yeah, I mean,

730
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: that's that's as long as the Browns.

731
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: Situation, anybody even close. I mean Thigsman was good, not great.

732
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: They won Super Bowls or three different quarterbacks. Yeah, we're

733
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: not about the quarterback.

734
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean Sonny Jurgensen would.

735
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: Get I guess, Yeah, I guess Bo's fine. Yeah. For

736
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, Luckman, Sid Luckman and nothing. Wow, I

737
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: mean they're worse than the Browns.

738
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: There are some teams that have just nothing at quarterback

739
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 2: for years and years.

740
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: Amazing for the Lion, there another one, Matthew Stafford say

741
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: it has tota. I mean maybe Bobby Lane. Bobby Lane

742
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: was really good there, really good. Stafford didn't have much

743
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: around him. Then you're looking at like Scott Mitchell or Gofah. Yeah.

744
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean there's some real lean times there too. Eric Hippel,

745
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, it was okay, uh, Green Bay.

746
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: I'd go Rogers one Rogers, Okay, there's a case for

747
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a couple of teams like the Steelers,

748
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: like the Colts that are pretty darn good. Those two

749
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: guys went back to back, though, and you kind of

750
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: got to see them kind of both in the same

751
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody's better than Bart Starr is

752
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: your third string quarterback? No, No, that's pretty good for

753
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: the Fings. Fran Tarkenton, Yeah, Culpepper's not there. No, he

754
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: didn't play that long. Tarkenton's way ahead of his time

755
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: as a runner and a creator for the Atlanta Falcons.

756
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, Yes, but that's bad. That's bad. That's what

757
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: I was going to say, Like, that's an old franchise.

758
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: It's bad. I mean, he's Did you go with Matt

759
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: Ryan over Michael Vick? Yeah, I don't think Vick played

760
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: there as long as I remember, six years or so.

761
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: That's actually an interesting conversation, y because Ryan was never the

762
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the league MVP, never below like eight though. Yeah,

763
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: Vick was. I don't know if he was ever the

764
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the league, but he was the best

765
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: weapon in the league for a little bit. I mean,

766
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: defense coordinators had a despise playing him at that era. Yeah,

767
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: on the turf and a dome, I would go Ryan,

768
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: though longevity PA played some for the Carolina Panthers. Cam Newton, yeah,

769
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: Kerry Collins, Jake del Home took him to I mean

770
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: they fifteen and one, and he won the MVP when

771
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: they lost the Super Bowl. Yeah, Newton was pretty strong

772
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: for a while. I mean, like in the fantasy world,

773
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: Newton was Josh Allen. Yeah, I mean scored a ton

774
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: of touchdowns for the Saints. It's Drew Brees. Yes. Archie

775
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: Manning had zero around him and was enough like I

776
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: mean like idiots.

777
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: Archie Manning won thirty five of his one hundred and

778
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: thirty four games. He was thirty five and one in

779
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: ninety nine.

780
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: And people tell you he was won of the best

781
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league at that point. You know, like

782
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: seventies quarterbacks weren't that great, Bradshaw, Staubach and then it's Stabler,

783
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: but he's in the top running. Yeah, the ain'ts Tampa Bay.

784
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: Does Brady count? They're counting Tom Brady. They won a

785
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl its three seasons though, Yeah, they won a

786
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: super Bowl before that, Like, yeah, but who else would

787
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: it even be? I mean, I can't give you Brad

788
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: Johnson or Vinnie No. I mean it's a really bad

789
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: You might stretch the rules to get Brady on there.

790
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: As opposed to Vinnie test of Ardi, Doug Williams was

791
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: Doug Williams was kind of the Archie manning. Doug Williams

792
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: might be my pick. He had nothing around him. They

793
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: were horrendous team down do an NFC championship. Yeah, yeah,

794
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: he might be. Yeah, coach, what do you think about

795
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: the execution? Your hear? How about this?

796
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: No quarterback has played more than seventy nine games.

797
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: That's unbelievable for the for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and

798
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: only three have won thirty games when they came in

799
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: the league in the seventies. I mean, like Baker Mayfield

800
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: could be third on that list if he sticks around

801
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: for five minutes.

802
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 2: The only starter with more than twenty five starts who

803
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: has a winning record in Tampa is Tom Brady.

804
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: That'srue. Doug Williams started a long time for that. I'm

805
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: not just discounting Doug Williams over the brave nothing around him,

806
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, because the last year of Brady was not good. No, no,

807
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't. Boy, that's a hard one. That's a really

808
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: bad group. They haven't been Brady shouldn't count.

809
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: They haven't been around as long as some of these

810
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 2: other teams.

811
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: But they were since the seventies. Yeah, I mean they

812
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: were seventy five ish or something like that. The mean

813
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: Seattle came in the same year. Yeah, it's pretty good, chunk.

814
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: You should have somebody that goes a Pro Bowl. You

815
00:39:53,080 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: would think, uh, the Arizona Cardinals Hart, Jim Hart Kyler

816
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: could pass them. But he's a long way away. He's

817
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: a long way from Warner. It's short. It's kind of

818
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: like a Rady conversation. If I'm h he was, I

819
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: mean on his best day. He was the best Cardinal quarterback,

820
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: but it was not many days. But Jim Hart was

821
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: their quarterback for eighteen years. Yeah yeah, eighteen years. Yeah

822
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and then talk about the seventies. He was

823
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: in an air didn't last. Yeah. Yeah, he's kind of

824
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: the Matt Ryan type for the Rams. Kurt Warner, I'm

825
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: putting him over Stafford. Okay, oh, they both won Super Bowls,

826
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: but neither one was there super long. I mean it's

827
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: Vince Ferragamo, No, Jim Everett, Roman Roman, Gabriel Gabriel. I

828
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: don't know how long he was there, but has to

829
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: be longer than Warner and Stafford.

830
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jim Everett leads a franchise in yards, but Gabriel, really, Gabriel.

831
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: Has twenty eight more wins and twelve more touchdown passes

832
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: in a much different well not a much different Ara,

833
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: but a different era, different era like Everet was considered

834
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: a bust. Yeah, he's a fourth overall pick. Kurt Warner

835
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: had fifty starts for them. Stafford phrase left. He's probably

836
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: getting close to that. Is this his third season there.

837
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: I think he won the Super Bowl's first year there. Yeah,

838
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: he could pass them.

839
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the forty nine Ers. It's Joe Montana sure.

840
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 2: For the Seahawks, Zorn Russell Wilson. Yes, obviously I'm being dumb.

841
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jim's orm was good though he was Dave Craig

842
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: was good. But they're not even in Hall of Fame ballots. No,

843
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: you know what Wilson will be if he quits today. Yeah,

844
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: at least will be on a ballot. That's the group,

845
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 1: and there's a couple of bad ones. Bad ones. Yeah,

846
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: I would have thought about Tampa as being as bad.

847
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: Like I immediately knew the Browns and the Bears would

848
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: be hideous, and they've been around since the dawn of time,

849
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: playing in terrible weather with terrible quarterbacks. But Tampa, I

850
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: mean even like the Giants. That's the thing.

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Speaker 2: So when Steeler fans talk about, well, you know that

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Speaker 2: era between Terry Bradshaw and Ben Roethlisberger, that was like,

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Speaker 2: there are some.

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Speaker 1: Teams that have been living that for fifty years old

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Speaker 1: people's lives. Who's your third stringer for the Steelers, Cordell

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Speaker 1: Cordell over Neil, Yeah, okay, and then maybe Bobby Lane Okay,

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Speaker 1: was he? I know it was not. He was better

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Speaker 1: for the Lions than the Steelers. Yeah, but he took

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Speaker 1: the Steelers to the playoffs in the in the sixtiesoff

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Speaker 1: type team. Yeah right, Okay, Neil's pretty good for a while,

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Speaker 1: though it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: As long as you like. It was a short time

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Speaker 2: and Cordell started more games. Cordell took him the AFC Championships.

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Speaker 1: You know Cordell was good. Yeah, yeah, I would love

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Speaker 1: to see Cordell now. Oh, I mean that's a different world,

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Speaker 1: but absolutely absolutely, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when we get back together, you and I will

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Speaker 2: be in the trope. I will do the show on

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Speaker 2: Monday with newly anointed Steelers play by play guy Rob King. Yep,

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Speaker 2: so we'll get to hear the voice of the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: For those of you outside the market who don't know

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Speaker 2: a lot about Rob, you'll get to hear from him.

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Speaker 2: Matt will be back with me on Thursday when we

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Speaker 2: get to when we get to La Trobe. We gave

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Speaker 2: you the rundown of the schedule earlier in the show.

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Speaker 2: Camp We're camp is camp and we love it.

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Speaker 1: And look what I know you just said it and

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Speaker 1: I know, but I just don't remember. Now you put

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Speaker 1: me on the spot. We go We're two to three

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Speaker 1: thirty on weekdays and then weekend it goes a little

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Speaker 1: bit longer than that, but yeah, that's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for today's show. So for my.

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Speaker 2: Partner Matt Williamson, I'm Dale Lollie. We thank you for

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Speaker 2: listening to this edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation

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