1 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: Well. According to DeAndre Hopkins, the two no start was 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: never in doubts. I'm sure if I agree with him 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: or not, but hey, we'll take it too. N O 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: beats the alternative. It is another victory Monday, Kyle. The 5 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: Murray continues to be the talk, not only locally but 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: nationally as well. And remember that conversation MJ I had 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: back in training camp, and that was how much more 8 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: might we see Murray run this season? I think we 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: know the answer, even two games in. The offense, though, 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: did leave a lot of points on the field. Head 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: coach Cliff Kingsbury's certainly not happy about that. Specifically, penalties 12 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: are of those negative plays that do not sit well 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: with any head coach. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode three fifteen, 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented 16 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: by Hyunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals and by 17 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Podcasts, visit acy Cardinals dot com Slash Podcasts. 18 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: Murray rolls to the right, throws near site defense pot 19 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: penis into the side to the touchdown. Here's Craig Griolu 20 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: and Mike Jarecki real quick and Jay and I'm gonna 21 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: knock on wood and I say this, but the national 22 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: narrative following week to the number of injuries, and not 23 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: just the number, but the high profile number of injuries. 24 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: Already Christian McCaffrey four to six week high ankle spray. 25 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: Cardinals are going to miss him when they visit Carolina 26 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: on October fourth. Se Quon Barkley done for the season 27 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: with an ACL injury. Cardinals were to face him in December. 28 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: And then we talked about it yesterday the forty nine ers, 29 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, Nick Bosa, D four Solomon tom Tevin Coleman, 30 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: Raheem Mostert. I don't think I missed anyone, but oh 31 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: my goodness, it was a mass unit all day on Sunday. Yeah, 32 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: And you know we always talk about, you know, part 33 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: of making a run in December and January is you know, 34 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: staying healthy. But you got to be lucky at times, 35 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: and you know, the NFL is better for you know, 36 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: whether it's a second string, you know, backup left guard. 37 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: But you're talking about name players and you know, usually 38 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: you got about ten guys in the team that are stars, 39 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: and then you filled out the roster with draft picks 40 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: and undrafted free agents. So you know, I don't I 41 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: don't wish it on any team. And you know, when 42 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: you hear acls, I mean, you know, you're in season now, 43 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: so it's nine months or a year from now, and 44 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 1: usually takes it nine months to a year or so, 45 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: and then you know you're kind of behind the eight 46 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: ball going in the next season. It's unfortunate, but you know, 47 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any rhyme or reason. We 48 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: knew that soft tissues are going to be an issue. 49 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: Obviously you can't do as much in training camp. He 50 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: didn't have an offseason, so you know, I do think 51 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: there are veteran players and nobody likes the preseason. Let's 52 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: let's make that very clear. But when guys like Chandler 53 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: Jones said, I could have used the preseason game or two, 54 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: and maybe it was the first second one. We know 55 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: it's good for young players. It probably would have benefited 56 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: a guy like Isaiah Simmons, Chris Traveler, you know, guys 57 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: that obviously are on the team. But there's something to 58 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: be said just going against another opponent, and just so, 59 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any parallel, but yeah, I 60 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: don't like to see injuries around the league. But I 61 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: know to the league would like to reduce the preseason games. 62 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: The joint practices were canceled this year. We'll see where 63 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: they are next offseason. But I do think the preseason 64 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: is beneficial. But I know that obviously four games are 65 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: too much. Well, this is why sometimes it's not the 66 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: most talented team that wins each week or even in 67 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: the postseason. You have to be a little bit lucky 68 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: as well staying healthy, and of course COVID nineteen. We 69 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: thought that was going to be a problem this season. 70 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: It very well might still be, but so far it's not. 71 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: It's been the injury situation. The Cardinals felt it in 72 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: training camp with Robert Alford going down for the second years. 73 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: It's really unfortunate. I like Andrew Hopkins had to say 74 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: after the ball game yesterday that you know, no one 75 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: likes to see this. You always want your best against 76 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: their best, and it seems like right now the Cardinals 77 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: are going to well not be facing the best when 78 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: they've got Carolina and the Giants coming up in a 79 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, it runs and trends. You know, the year, 80 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: how many when they played thirteen offensive linemen, how many 81 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: times did Carson Palmer get hurt? And then you know 82 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: as a team that you know you're rely on your 83 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: franchise quarterbacks, a guy that obviously you know played very 84 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: well for the Cardinals those five years, fifty wins, and 85 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, you hope you can go into a game. 86 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: But like I always say, you know, next man works 87 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: at certain positions, but ultimately, league, you got to keep 88 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: your quarterback upright, your left tackle's got to stay healthy, 89 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: your pass rush, your corner, your number one wide receiver. 90 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: So it's unfortunate, and you know, I like what the 91 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: rule is this year because of COVID. Sometimes some of 92 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: these guys like Richard Sherman, they're gonna miss three games. 93 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson's in that same boat. So I know, when 94 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: you tear an acl and achilles and you start talking 95 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: about pectoral tears, they're more long term. But some of 96 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: these guys could return. But the name guys you mentioned, 97 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: they're not going to be able to play this season. Yeah, 98 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 1: it's not good, all right? What is good? A two 99 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: and oh Star didn't mean to bury the lead. I 100 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: just had to mention that because it was such alarming 101 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: news over the last twenty four hours. But for the 102 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: first time since twenty fifteen, the Arizona Cardinals two and oh. 103 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: On Sunday, they beat up on Washington thirty to fifteen. Offense, defense, 104 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: special teams. You're seeing all three phases now involved in 105 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: each of the first two games here in twenty Yeah, 106 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: and that's encouraging. You know, you look at points allow, 107 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are in the top ten. You know how 108 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: I feel about that stat special teams according to Pro 109 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: Football Focus Grace, they're sixth in the league now, the 110 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 1: offense is somewhere in the twenty fourth or twenty fifth, 111 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: and as a team their twentieth overall. But you know, 112 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: I like what we're seeing. There's a lot of things 113 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: that you know, over the next two weeks, you want 114 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: to see this team hit in their stride. Obviously, you 115 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: don't want to peak too soon, but you're not going 116 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: to throw away Sundays. But you really want to be 117 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: playing your best football. You know, probably after Thanksgiving, but 118 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: really December, hopefully in January, but we're still in the 119 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: month of September, and we talked about on the postgame 120 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: show last night, and that is, you know, just talking 121 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: to players and coaches around the league and including you 122 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: know in the building, they feel like, you know, with 123 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: the preseason one or two games that maybe you'd see improvement. 124 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: Now you always hear coaches and players talk about from 125 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: week one to week two. You know, you kind of 126 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: see some improvement. We saw more holding penalties, but you know, um, 127 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: but somebody game of the thought props it's going to 128 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: take four weeks. So you know, the good news is 129 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: you haven't thrown any games away. You're finding ways to 130 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: win each week. The last two weeks has been different 131 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: guys stepped up, you know, so uh and and they 132 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: got they got Mighty Mouse back there, Kyler Murray and 133 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: he's he's is, Tony Gonzalez said at halftime. He is 134 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: the most exciting player in the NFL right now. I 135 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: think if you look at the new quarterback to wide 136 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: receiver combo, the Cardinals have the one two punch and 137 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and DeAndre Hopkins. A lot of good things 138 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: going for this team, but there's a lot to clean up. 139 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: We'll get into some of the particulars um, I like 140 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: that they're blocking out the noise. They haven't accomplished anything 141 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, and they all of the talk, all 142 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: of the applotting that is going on right now. There 143 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: is not a single player or coach that is happy 144 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: outside of the record with how they had performed on 145 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: the field or leaving points on the field, sloppy play 146 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: and penalties. In fact, they lead the league in the 147 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: number of penalties and penalty yards, and we talk about 148 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: negative plays that certainly has got to be cleaned up. 149 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: You brought up Kyler Murray. Mighty Mouse says you described him. 150 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: Remember the conversation we had back in training camp about 151 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: how many times or how much more would we see 152 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: Murray run the football, either scrambling or design runs, And 153 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: we weren't really quite sure. We thought it would be 154 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more, But I don't know if we 155 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: anticipated at being at least for my perspective, I don't 156 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: know to put words in your mouth, MJ. I don't 157 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: know if we thought it would be such a big 158 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: part of the offense this early. Because weeks one and 159 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: weeks two he's running scrambling design runs and being very 160 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: very effective, and it's kind of been the catalyst for 161 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: this offense here in the first two games. Well, and 162 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: we'll get it too. You know, sometimes he's airmail and 163 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: receivers and you know, we know he's got a strong 164 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: arm and he wants to be known as that. But 165 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, I think the over number was five hundred 166 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: yards and five ten or whatever it was. I was. 167 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: You know, I was taking the over if you look 168 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: at it last year after the first two weeks, Bait 169 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: the Lions, three carries thirteen yards, the Ravens game, three 170 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: carries four yards. Now I do think and a number. 171 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: And when I say this, it doesn't reflect the next 172 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: couple of games. Last year after the week one and two, 173 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: I think him watching Lamar Jackson from the bench and 174 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: standing up and watching him. I think he thought, I 175 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: can do this now. We didn't see it the next 176 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: couple of games. So you're looking at six carries for 177 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: seventeen yards. Right now, he leads the NFL at the 178 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: quarterback position with twenty one carries, one hundred and fifty 179 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: eight yards and three rushing touchdowns. Now behind him Cam Newton, 180 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Russell Wilson. So Newton has really 181 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: the only loss there. He's averaging better than seven yards 182 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: a carry on pace for more than twelve hundred rushing yards. 183 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: So hopefully you took the over MJ on that over 184 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: under from earlier, because he's going to completely obliterate that. 185 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: It is worth mentioning though, because he is the focal point. 186 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: He will always be the focal point of this offense. 187 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: And he was asked about his comfort level now that 188 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: he's got those three rushing touchdowns. Quote, I told you 189 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: all before, I feel once I get more comfortable understanding 190 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: the field, awareness, understanding where guys are where they're going 191 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: to be, I feel more comfortable out there. Obviously when 192 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: my number is called or when I break the pocket. 193 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: Like I said, I just feel it's more comfortable for 194 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: me to make something happen. If I have to slide, 195 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: I have to slide. But if I know I can 196 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: get more yards, then that's what I'm going to try 197 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: to do. And that's exactly what he has done for 198 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: these first games, and it's why opposing defensive coordinators Jack 199 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: del Rio on Sunday, I'm sure felt like this, how 200 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: do you go about defending the Cardinals offense? Because if 201 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: you have a certain game plan to take a DeAndre 202 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: Hopkins out of the mix or stop the run. What 203 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: do you do with Kyle Murray because he can beat 204 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: you just as easily with his arm as he can 205 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: with his legs. Yeah, and Kingsberry was asked on Monday, 206 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, is he running too much? And he does 207 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: say he really doesn't enjoy it in the game because 208 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: obviously he wants to avoid the big hits what She's done. 209 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: He said that he enjoys it the following day. I 210 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: wish people would realize this is who he is. This 211 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: makes him so dynamic in one of the most exciting 212 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: players in the NFL. Now, it's come early for him. 213 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: But I mean you're talking about a guy that can 214 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: take over a game now, I mean, we have quarterbacks 215 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: that manage games. And I know it's probably the wrong connotation, 216 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: because managing a game is you don't beat yourself, you 217 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: don't turn it over in the fourth quarter, and you 218 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: win football games. But you know, this is a little 219 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: bit swag here, and when this offense starts clicking, it's 220 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: gonna be very interesting because I think they can put 221 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: up thirty thirty five points, you know, over a fourth 222 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: quarter period, and I love what I was able to 223 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: see in the fourth quarter, playing against the clock, running 224 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: the football. You know, obviously Cliff wasn't going to take 225 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: his foot off the pedal once they got a little 226 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: um relaxed, or he mentioned going through the motions in 227 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: the second half. But that's that's winning football. And when 228 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: you can wear down your opponent, whether it's the physicality, 229 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: the conditioning, and just lean on your offensive line, that's 230 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: Those are the good teams that win late in the game, 231 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: and they win late in the season. For fans that 232 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: are a little bit weary about how often Murray runs 233 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: with the football, I get it. Yeah. At Kingsbury, as 234 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: you mentioned, doubled down on all of that talk. Quote, 235 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't see that changing end quote, and he brought 236 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: up Lamar Jackson on how many times that there were 237 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: design runs for him a year ago he won the MVP. Quote. 238 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: I don't think that's not sustainable, in the words of 239 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: the Cardinals head coach, but I understand because anytime that 240 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: quarterback leaves the pocket, you're fair game. You can get hit. 241 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: We saw it on his last run of the game yesterday, 242 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: trying to get a first down on third down right 243 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: before the Zane Gonzalez field goal to make it thirty 244 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: points that he kind of got. He got he got 245 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: crunched a little bit. He was sliding at the same time, 246 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: but he did get hit. And that's where fans their 247 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: eyebrows go up and go, hey, we need you around 248 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: for all sixteen games. Don't don't go running unnecessarily. But 249 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: I like what you said. This is who he is. 250 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: You can't take it away because if you do, then 251 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: you negate why he is so dangerous as a quarterback. Yeah, 252 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: and you know you hear. I think it started maybe 253 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: last year, maybe in the second half of the season, 254 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: just when they started to win a lot of games 255 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: and they're going to clinch at number one seed. Is 256 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: he didn't run as much. Now, on paper, he's run 257 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: twenty three times or ninety nine zero touching rush touchdowns, 258 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: and cams run twenty six times. Murray's run twenty one. 259 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's only ran eight times. So hey, listen if 260 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: you want to make that, and it's fair because once 261 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: he goes down, if that ever happens, a knock on wood, 262 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: nobody wants to see that, Okay, but watch Russell Wilson's 263 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: first three years in the league, first two years in 264 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: the league. Now A granted, Russell Wilson's only running eight times, 265 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: He's got good receivers. Their offensive line is not great. 266 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: They do run it back by committee. And I use 267 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: the word Hugh Deeney when it comes to Russell Wilson. 268 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: So if you're in you grew up following and watching 269 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: Steve Young. I think he's very similar to Mike Vic 270 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: and the running in the running attack, but he caught 271 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: Kyler is much more accurate in the passing game. He 272 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: is certainly talking about Kyler Murray a lot of fun 273 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: to watch. I went back and I know you do 274 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: it as well. Watched the game again this time, you know, 275 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: kind of the rough cut and paying attention to certain things. 276 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: And I literally tried to count how many designed runs. 277 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: And we never know what the play call is from 278 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: the sidelines, but sometimes you can kind of get a 279 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: feel just on how everyone reacts. Is Kyler Murray out 280 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: of the shotgun and taking off immmediately, Well that's a 281 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: design run. Is there a little bit of a hesitation? 282 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: Is a quarterback draw? Well that's a design run. And 283 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: Kingsbury earlier today confirmed that both of Murray's touchdowns yesterday 284 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: on the ground. His rushing touchdowns were two designed runs. 285 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: So this is something that you know, are we going 286 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: to keep seeing weekend and week out? Who knows. Maybe 287 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: it's just what this offense needs to do early in 288 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: the season to make sure that it keeps defense is honest. 289 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: And maybe as the rest of the offense catches up 290 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: the running game, the passing game, then you'll see less 291 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: of Murray break the pocket. I don't know, but right 292 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: now it is what is winning games for the Arizona Cardinals. Well, 293 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: I want to say, last year, Rand the ball ninety 294 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: three times. He's already over the twenties. Now, I know 295 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: you said project twelve hundred yards. I hope that's not 296 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: the case because you don't want him running for his life. 297 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: Now it's a week the week thing. But they've gone 298 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: to get two good front sevens, more importantly front four, 299 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: and he hasn't taken that big hit. Once he takes 300 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: that big hit again, you want him to get up. 301 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: You don't want anything else to happen. But you know, 302 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: maybe he'll slow it down a little bit. But this 303 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: is who he is and that's what makes him so dynamic. 304 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: And like I said, you you there's a lot of 305 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: great quarterbacks out there, and some teams refer pocket passers. 306 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: I still think there's there's there's you know, opportunities for them, 307 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: and right now the only quarterbacks. And I wouldn't take 308 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson because I like Kyler Murray's accuracy. Then Jackson 309 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: Jackson obviously he's won some games, He's got a really 310 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: good offensive line. I'm just comparing the quarterbacks. My home 311 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: is probably the best quarterback in the NFL. But but 312 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: he hasn't gotten off to a good start, you know. 313 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: So you know, I don't want to be drinking the 314 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: kool aid here, but man, the future looks bright at 315 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: this position. I mean, there's not a lot of guys 316 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: that I would take over Aaron Rodgers with thirty five 317 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: thirty six. You know, I'll make the case right now 318 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: he's the second best quarterback in the NFC West. Well, 319 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: it is over reaction Monday following a win on Sunday, 320 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, I understand it. And right now he might 321 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: be your best bet at quarterback long term. And then 322 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: what he's able to do with his arm and his legs. 323 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: I was reading a Twitter and then they attached to 324 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: to like their podcast and they show a high lights. 325 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks brought up a great point about Kyle Shanahan 326 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: when he's coaching jim Garoppolo, it's gonna be the perfect 327 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: game plan, like Jimmy's gonna like it. He's gotta like it. 328 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: And when he gets out there he says, it's a 329 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: little bit different when Jimmy's gotta, you know, make the 330 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: decisions where the ball goes where Garin practice, everything's perfect. 331 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: So and we know he'll throw you one. We know 332 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: that they were interested in Tom Brady after losing the 333 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, whether they was flirting with him or not. Listen, 334 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: I understand you need a franchise quarterback in this league. 335 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: Jakoss plays very well, but I would I think Kyler 336 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: Murray's the second best quarterback in the division. Yeah, and 337 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: you can argue because of his age that maybe he 338 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: is ahead of a Russell Wilson. If you are to 339 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 1: start a franchise, which quarterback would you start a franchise with? Wilson? 340 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: If he plays the least forty, that's going to be 341 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: his stiffest competition for MVP, for division titles, for playoff wins. 342 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: You know I'm getting ahead of myself. But I kind 343 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: of just projecting. But you know, I love to have 344 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: this conversation where he ranks ranks in the NFC because 345 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: the AFC's loaded with quarterbacks twenty seven to thirty men loaded, 346 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: where the NFC we're starting to see older quarterbacks, you know, 347 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Stafford, Brady Breeze. So but yeah, I again, 348 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: we always talk about the NFC's loaded Cardinals. Right now 349 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: they look like a playoff team. Now is that the 350 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: seven seed? You know? Is that nine and seven? We'll see, Well, 351 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: that is the toughest division right now in football, collective 352 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: seven and one through the first two weeks of the 353 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: regular season. On the subjects of Kyler Murray and his 354 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: ability to run with the football, he commented on that 355 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: after the ballgame, quote, it's an extension of the run 356 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: game really our offense and general. When I can break 357 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: the pocket or pull a read and score, that's the 358 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: dynamic that we have in this offense because I'm able 359 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: to move. It's a blessing to be able to move 360 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: fast and quote. So your game planning, and part of 361 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: that game planning is figuring out how to best utilize 362 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's strengths, which is his mobility, his speed, his 363 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: scrambling style, and just the fact that he can change 364 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: direction on a dime and make defenders look absolutely silly. Yeah. 365 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's so many comparisons. I mean, it 366 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: looks like a running back when he's out there and 367 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: he's four three. I think it looks like Devin Hester 368 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: when he gets in the open field where you know, 369 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: you'd like to see him tuck that ball in a 370 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 1: little bit, and then as kids better like to say, 371 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: that's part of the swag. Okay, that's fine. I mean, 372 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: I guess you got to catch him in order to 373 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: punch the ball out. And then you look at Russell Wilson, 374 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: I mean, and then Steve Young. It's just hard. It's 375 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: really hard to put a comp on him. But I 376 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: just I like the way he approaches a game. I mean, 377 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: I think we all know, and I really like what 378 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow said last week, I hate losing. He's lost 379 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: two games through the ball sixty one times. Kyler Murray 380 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: does not like to lose. In it's just his maturity, 381 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: like commanding the huddle, seeing things on defense, coming to 382 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: the sidelines, saying you know, I should have done this. 383 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: That doesn't happen overnight. That you have to put a 384 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: lot of work in doing that. Murray is the first 385 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: quarterback in the Super Bowl era to pass for five 386 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: hundred plush yards and rush for one hundred and fifty 387 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: plus yards to the first two games of a season. 388 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: Also the first quarterback in NFL history to rush for 389 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: one hundred plush yards and three plus touchdowns in the 390 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: first two games of a season. And I like this. 391 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: Eighteen career games for Kyler Murray, he already owns five 392 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: of the top nine single game rushing performances by a 393 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: quarterback and franchise history, So he is going to rewrite 394 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: the record books when it comes to quarterbacks rushing, not 395 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: only with the Cardinals but in the entire NFL. One 396 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: other note on this on those two design runs, and 397 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: I think this kind of gets lost, but if you 398 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: really pay attention, what helped spring Murray And a lot 399 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: of it he did himself going on that first run, 400 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds downfield blocking helping steal elane that second one, 401 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake Andy Isabella doing good jobs of maintaining their 402 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: blocks or looking for a free defender to get in 403 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: the way. Of or put their hands on. Now the 404 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: negative of that, he very well should have had three 405 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns. Dan Arnold gets called for a hole when 406 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: he really didn't need to hold the defender and that 407 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: first quarter. So what I like to see is these players, 408 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: Murray's teammates when he breaks the pocket, they're not standing 409 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: and watching their eyes immediately turned. All right, where's the 410 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: nearest opposite colored jersey that I need to make? I 411 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: lock up? So Murray is able to an extra couple 412 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: of yards or spring free for a touchdown like he 413 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: did on Sunday. Yeah, I mean it's um, you know, 414 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into the negative plays because that's still 415 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: an issue. In Cliff mentioned there were fourteen. We'll get 416 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: into that, but yeah, I mean it's not always going 417 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: to be ideal. And the fact is he's able to 418 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: find creases and seems and it's hard for these linebackers 419 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: to catch him. But yeah, what he's done in a 420 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I mean, it just sky's the limit 421 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: for the season. And you know, I know that, you 422 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: know they'll put out the MVP talk and last year 423 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: at this time it was Russell Wilson and then you know, 424 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: obviously what Aaron Rodgers is doing. I'm sure I'm missing 425 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: a couple of guys here, but don't worry about that. 426 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: Within ten or eleven games were in that conversation, all right, 427 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: you brought it up head coach Cliff Kingsbury quote, it's 428 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: really the negative plays that are hurting the team offensively. 429 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: He brought up fourteen negative plays on Sunday, including the penalties, 430 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: and then later on he said they've had one hundred 431 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: and fifty eight yards and negative plays over the first 432 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: two games. Yet here this team is two and oh, 433 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: and they're putting up points that we haven't seen in 434 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: a long time as far as consistently twenty plus points 435 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: and in on Sunday thirty points. Yeah, and you know 436 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: they haven't played two potent offenses though you know the 437 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: Niners were without their two top receivers. George Kittle was 438 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: probably playing on one league in that second half. Even 439 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: Million William missed one snap, so they haven't really run 440 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: into that. But the pre snap and post snap one 441 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty eight yards is a lot. And he 442 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: mentioned fourteen negative plays, as you mentioned, eleven were penalties. 443 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: So and you're gonna get some holding calls, but you know, 444 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: the delay a game, you know falls starts, it's going 445 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: to happen the first month of the season. The thing is, 446 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: you just don't want to beat yourself, you know what 447 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: I mean. And that's where you don't want these penalties 448 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. You hate to see a pass 449 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: interference that goes down to the one yard line because 450 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: you didn't stay in your coverage or you didn't stay 451 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: in the frame of the defense. So I would have 452 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: thought that would have been a point of emphasis last week, 453 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: and the guarantee it's going to be another point of emphasis, 454 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: and they're going to happen because you know, guys are 455 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 1: trying to make a play and they're trying to, you know, 456 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: do the right thing. But like we always say, if 457 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: you just cut it down to five or six and 458 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: don't let those put you behind the sticks, you know 459 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: that would go a long way. Yeah, it's almost impossible 460 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: to play a perfect game. It's sometimes when penalties occur 461 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: and at one junctures during the core of a ball game. 462 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: So eliminate all of that, or at least some of that, 463 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: then you can actually get on to progress again and 464 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: week out, and certainly some of this that we're talking about, 465 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: and as we've heard from a number of different players, 466 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: sky is the limit as far as what this offense 467 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: is capable of. Well, speaking of that, I mean, what 468 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: what what have we learned over the last two weeks 469 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: about this offense? You know we just talked about. I 470 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: think number one is the penalties in a negative place. 471 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: Number two is if this offense wants to get better 472 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: and be in the rhythm for four quarters. You know, 473 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm not nitpicking. I'm just saying in general, when need 474 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: you to see more accuracy from Kyler Murray, He's there, 475 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: he's airmail and a couple of balls. He's missed a 476 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: couple of guys that were open. And that's going to 477 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: happen when you got Chase Young and Ryan Kerrigan going 478 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: at you. So my first two are penalties accuracy, and 479 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: then I want to see the Isabella and Dan Arnot 480 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: get more in all than the offense. But we have 481 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: to consider Hopkins. You know, Kenyan Drakes, he had tons 482 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: more carries than Chase Emans did. I think Edmonds is 483 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: better in the passing game. I think they want to 484 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: get Arnold involved, but they're not going to force And 485 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: then he got Kirk and he got Fitzgerald, so I'd 486 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: like to see Isabella. Now, this could be in the 487 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: second or third quarter. I think it's important to get 488 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: those guys early and give him their touches. And then 489 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: I mentioned Kenyan Drake. I think he's earned the playing time. 490 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: Cliff loves him in the downhill running. And then I 491 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: want to, you know, Chase Edmonds. I think if they 492 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: can incorporate Isabella, Arnold, Drakes already in there, and Chase 493 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: and get the accuracy from Murray, I think this offense 494 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: can start clicking. Well. He missed Arnold down the team 495 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: in the third quarter, and then Edmonds in the third 496 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 1: quarter as well, was open for a touchdown. Those are 497 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: the two throws that really come to mind as far 498 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: as just not being accurate. Certainly, though shorter passes he's 499 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: been money, it's the deeper throws ten plus yards. I 500 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: know there were two successful deep shots on Sunday, but 501 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: passes that travel through the air better than ten yards 502 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: that just not quite there yet. He was very accurate 503 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: on those type of plays a year ago, but this 504 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: year it's it's taken a little bit longer, and maybe 505 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: that's a product of no offseason, no ta's, no mini camp, 506 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: and then not having certain guys always on the field 507 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: during the course of training camp. Yeah, I mean he's 508 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a sixty six, sixty seven, sixty eight 509 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: percentage quarterback. I think he'd be the first to say, 510 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, you're not gonna make every thrill. But he 511 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: trusted receivers and he feels like it's eighty twenty probably 512 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: when he's throwing the ball to these guys, So he'll 513 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: be fine. But it's I think accuracy is something that 514 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: you know he has the accuracy. It is just a 515 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: matter maybe he's setting his feet. Obviously, he doesn't want 516 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: the good ball to get batter down to linar scrimmage, 517 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: so he sells it. You know what, we haven't seen 518 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: him floating that ball like he did last year, or 519 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: allows the TVs to come in get some interceptions that 520 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: he was doing it to Llowers for shooters to go 521 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: underneath it, but they had already got past the corner 522 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: and now he's just felt no heat. We're not seeing 523 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 1: that this year. He did throw the ball to seven 524 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: different receivers on Sunday. There are only five different pass 525 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: catchers in Week one, so he did a better job 526 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: as petting the ball around. And then your point about 527 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds, something we touched on last week. Does Edmonds 528 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: deserve and the answer is yes, but will we see 529 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: him on the field for more snaps? The answer on 530 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: Sunday was no. He was not on the field for 531 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: a lot, only twenty seven of the seventy seven offensive snaps. 532 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake played fifty of the seventy seven, and I thought, 533 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, because he was so successful in week one, 534 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: that we would see more of Chase Edmons now he 535 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: was involved. He just didn't have a lot of touches 536 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: in the run or passing game. Yep. But Kenyan Drake 537 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: is a different runner and he runs exactly how they 538 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: want him behind Googler's line. So I'm not surprised, I thought, 539 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: But I don't like to be surprised because you know, 540 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: we're not there all the time to where we know 541 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: what's going on. Obviously we try to connect dots. But 542 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: I did think Edmonds will get more playtime. And you know, 543 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: when you when you get that lead, you don't you 544 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: don't want to put Edmonds out there just to take 545 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: a pounding. Now you're gonna say what about Drake, Well, 546 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: he's a bigger back and it doesn't take a lot 547 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: of big hits, so he's gonna ride with Drake. But 548 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: I just think Chase is a perfect change of pace. 549 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: You know, the Cardinals really don't have a third down back, 550 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: and I'm fine with that because you know they can 551 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: go four wide, run that jet suite, bubble screen, extend 552 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: to you know, running play. So but you know, Drake's 553 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: the guy that they made it very clear by putting 554 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: the tag on him. Well just look at the numbers. 555 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: Twenty rushing attempts for Drake, only three for Edmonds, who 556 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: only had six total touches in the game after he 557 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: had nine the week before. But the disparity that I 558 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: think we thought might happen going into the season, we 559 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: kind of backed off, at least I did after seeing 560 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: what Edmonds was able to do in Week one. Now 561 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: it's it's picking your spots with how to get Edmonds 562 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: on the field and utilize his unique skill set as 563 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: far as running. And then also I think he's I 564 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: think he's shown to be a better pass catcher, either 565 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: coming out of the backfield or lining up in the slot, 566 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: and that is more I think this team is utilizing 567 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: him a little bit more in that area versus Drake 568 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: as your soul running back. Well, it's only two games, 569 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: but it's clear what they're gonna do with running back. 570 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: It's Kenyan Drake, it's Chase Edmonds, DJ Foster on special teams, 571 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: and then Edo Benjamin. You know, unfortunately he didn't win 572 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: the kickoff return job and he's going to be inactive. 573 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: So that's where they are, and so they're really playing 574 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: two backs, and so he's still going to be in 575 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: the mix. Like I said before, I don't know if 576 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: it's every third or fourth possession. You know, they haven't 577 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: had to go play in the South where it's hot 578 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: and human at least I guess today is the first 579 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: day of fall. But you know they're going back east. 580 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: It could be you can give some rain the morning 581 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: and it's hot and human out there. They got back 582 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: to back East Coast game. So but again you can 583 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: see where they're what they've done in the last two games, 584 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: and that's the running back situation with the Cardinals and 585 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: Foster's strictly playing on special teams and Foster dealing with 586 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: an injury ride now he suffered a quad injury earlier 587 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: in that contest. I saw him on the opening kickoff 588 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: and then on that punt that Washington had, so I'm 589 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: not exactly sure when it happened. I always slipped on 590 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: the kickoff but appeared to be okay, but that certainly 591 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: would be a factor and special teams moving forward. Speaking 592 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: of special teams, Christian Kirk also was out of that 593 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: contest early and then was kind of in and out 594 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: of the lineup. But with him not being one hundred percent, 595 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: it opened the door for Andy Isabella to be on 596 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: punt return and dare I say the most important thing. 597 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: He caught the ball cleanly, tried to do as much 598 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,239 Speaker 1: as he could as far as making a return. But 599 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: maybe they see now what he can do in a 600 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: live game setting to where you don't need to put 601 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: thirteen back there and risk injury with him. You put 602 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: Andy Isabella out there because that's one of your fourth 603 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: or fifth wide receivers. You put him on special teams, 604 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: and with his speed, if you can make a couple 605 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: of defenders miss, maybe you can take off and take 606 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: one to the house. Yeah, we've got to make a 607 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: list because I feel like we mentioned the most underrated 608 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: player that in training camp and Isabella the catch he had, 609 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: that's that's who he is. And he caught it with 610 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: his hands, and you know, and and and obviously you know, 611 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: when it comes to training camp, they usually had four 612 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: to six guys, and then as they got closer to 613 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: the season and you kind of narrow it down to 614 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: two or three. You know, Byron Murphy was getting an 615 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: opportunity out there. I think that's more on a pinch. 616 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: I also have Patrick Peterson, but yeah, I mean, Andy's 617 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: showing that he can play in this league. And you 618 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: can't teach that speed. And you know, I haven't mentioned that. 619 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: I thought him and Edmonds would get a bigger role. 620 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: And he had nine STAPs I want to say the 621 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: first game, and he was on the field when they 622 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: were four wide. He had fourteen this game. And he 623 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: also played on special teams, so solely but surely. But 624 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, I know, I know people are going to 625 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: compare him to DK Metcap, but keep in mind Seattle, 626 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, bypassed him earlier. I want to say they 627 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: may had two picks in that round. And also Byron 628 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: Murphy was the first pick. It wasn't like they took 629 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: any any Isabella would have been drafted in the third 630 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: round and the Cardinals were looking for a speed guy 631 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: who watched Cliff on the you know, the flight plan. 632 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: He was thrilled when they got him. So nobody's down 633 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: on him, and give David Ryan Jerry Sullivan a ton 634 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: of credit because he's more comfortable and it's more confident, 635 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,959 Speaker 1: and you could see it on game day. Well, there's 636 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: no question because that one catch that he had that 637 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: was kind of thrown behind him and listening to patch 638 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: and hopefully on the broadcast, they both almost at the 639 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: same time called it the best catch of Andy Isabella's career. Now, 640 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: to be honest, there hasn't been many, but those are 641 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: the type of catches that if you really want to 642 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: while your position coach, while you're head coach, when they 643 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: look at the film, make those catches, make the difficult catches, 644 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, not only do they 645 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: gain confidence, and we know Kyle the Murray's got confidence 646 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: in him, but they'll throw you out there more and 647 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: it's not just hey, you're the fourth guy or dare 648 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: we say, sometimes the fifth guy, depending on if a 649 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: tight end is lining up as a wide receiver, as 650 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: we saw Dan Arnold do a couple of on Sunday, 651 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: but he has to make those catches. He has to 652 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: make those grabs when his number is thrown to and 653 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: he did that on Sunday. Yeah, when you take a 654 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: look at it, though, I mean what I look at 655 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: is it time film now, so teams are going to 656 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: be aware. I mean, yeah, you can go back to 657 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: the San Francisco game and he didn't score in this place, 658 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: so you usually do cut up a team scoring, but 659 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna show and he's ingrained himself as the fourth 660 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver on the roster. You know, Trench Sheerfield has 661 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: kind of been regulated special teams. Great player there. I 662 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: guess when he go five wide, he did get a 663 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: couple of snaps, but he is the fourth wide receiver. 664 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 1: And now that he's on film and they can run 665 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: the jet suite with him, the bubble screen, the quick 666 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: pass in the flat, and I think there's are extended 667 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: run place. But I think it's really not only for 668 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: his confidence, but as you're focused on the Cardinals, you 669 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: can't just focus on DeAndre Hopkins. No, there's a trickle 670 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: down and there's a pecking order right now. Isabella is 671 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: trying to make sure that he's a part of that 672 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: top tier right now, as you say number four, and 673 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: then Sherfield getting some playing time because I think because 674 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk wasn't quite himself all the way on Sunday. 675 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: But let's bring this conversation back to where we kind 676 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: of began. And yeah, it was a lot of Kyle 677 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: murray I positives, But as we've discussed here on this 678 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Honday, proud partner 679 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, a lot that is still needed 680 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: to improve and in the words of Kyle Murray on Sunday, quote, 681 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: I feel like we're not even scratching the surface yet. 682 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of work to be done. 683 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: I feel like once we limit those penalties, limit going 684 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: backwards the negative plays, we can hopefully reach that full potential. 685 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: End quote. Question is m Jay, when does that happen? 686 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: How long does it take to reach the full potential? Well, 687 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: I think you have to give him the first month 688 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: of the season. But they show flashes. I mean they 689 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: show flashes, especially when they go with the Murray up offense. 690 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna tag that, like you know what. 691 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: I heard you say it a couple of times during 692 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: Cardinal talk, and I'm trying to remember if I if 693 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: I had heard you say it before, if it was 694 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 1: just for the moment. But I like it, and I 695 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: think I think you should trade market, you should copyright it, 696 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: you should make it your thing. Yeah. Actually it's my 697 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: fantasy name that I started last year with the Cardinals 698 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: are Coharts and people we work with, So Murray up offense, 699 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, hurry up offense, boring, you know, no huddle, 700 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: I mean Murray up offense. Yeah, I mean, I think 701 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: he's at his finest because to me, he's like he's like, um, 702 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: I guess Bob Ross, he's just painting, or Michael Angelo, 703 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 1: or he's like a doctor and he's a surgeon out 704 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: there when he's in the Murray Up offense. I mean, 705 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: he's everything comes so natural to him. Well said, I 706 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: like that. The creative mind of one Mike Trecky year 707 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: on Monday edition of Cardinals covered too Hey, Bird Gang, 708 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: don't forget. Subscribe to Airs on the Cardinals podcast on 709 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google podcast, Fitcher, and SoundCloud. Listening to 710 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: your favorite shows on the go like Cardinals Underground, The 711 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: Big Right Rays, The Cardinals reds Here Report, and of 712 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: course this show Cardinals covered two, The Daisy Cardinals dot 713 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: Com slash pod cast for more information, a lot of 714 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 1: talk on the offense. MJ, how about we hold the 715 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 1: defensive discussion for tomorrow because there was a lot to 716 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: like about the defense, in particular all those new fresh 717 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: faces that general manager Steve come went out. He neither 718 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: acquired or signed, and I think that, more than anything, 719 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,720 Speaker 1: is really the telling story of this two and oh start. 720 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: Yeahs a few of us doing Monday through Friday now 721 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: because we would have tried to jam it in here. 722 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: And I was wondering, why don't we get to the 723 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,919 Speaker 1: defense because quite frankly, you know, they've made stops. We're 724 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: seeing new faces make plays throughout the course of the game. 725 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: Campbell's been a great addition. I mean, I think him 726 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,479 Speaker 1: and Buddha Baker, you know, Chandler Jones, as they say, 727 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: Sax come in bunches, you know, but he's doing more 728 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: things out there. Maybe he's getting double teamed, we'll see, 729 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, I look forward to talking about the defense. 730 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: You know, they're getting better and you know we're gonna 731 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: look at the snap counts. We know that Isaiah Simmons 732 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: wasn't out there as much as the previous game. We 733 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: know Zach Allen's count went down, or Shad lawrence snapcount 734 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: went up. We knew banjos snapcount was going to go up. 735 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: And then you look at Jordan Hicks finally came off 736 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 1: the field. As they say, m J always leave them 737 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:18,479 Speaker 1: wanting more. That was a tease, Craig. And on that note, 738 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: we will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals 739 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: Covered two, presented by Hunday Rob Partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 740 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Jim Momahundro 741 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 1: for Mike Jarecki. I'm greg Ria Lou will talk to 742 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.