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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.

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Speaker 2: And the government is getting quite a shake up, as

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Speaker 2: you know. By that we mean the permanent bureaucracy. Maybe

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Speaker 2: not the permanent anymore. We'll see some big changes underway there.

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Speaker 1: And you've had.

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Speaker 2: Trump firing two thousand USAID workers, thousands more placed on lead.

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Speaker 1: A lot of.

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Speaker 2: People who are probationary employees to federal government who have

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Speaker 2: been hired in the last two years are likely to

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Speaker 2: be told that they have to go do something else.

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Speaker 2: And people are watching this, I think, and it is

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Speaker 2: both refreshing and also highly entertaining to see the reaction

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Speaker 2: from the Democrats and the Democrat media, whatever's left of it.

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Speaker 2: And here here's where I am, Clay. You know, there

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Speaker 2: are some movies that I really associate with being a

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Speaker 2: one that I think I might have watched in college

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Speaker 2: most more than anything other movie was a Mike Judge

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Speaker 2: film by the name of Office Space. Oh yeah, And

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Speaker 2: if you have not seen Office Space, it is in

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Speaker 2: its own way. It's a pretty simple.

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Speaker 1: Straightforward premise. It is in its own way, kind of

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Speaker 1: brilliant and very very amusing. Uh it is. It is

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Speaker 1: not for kids.

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Speaker 2: This is an adults only kind of movie, but it's

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Speaker 2: it's really gets to the heart of the soulless driving

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Speaker 2: out to some office park for a job you don't

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Speaker 2: want to do and for a boss who doesn't care

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Speaker 2: and has you know, the whole thing, right, it's just

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Speaker 2: the the linoleum floor, track lighting, cubicle prison that so

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Speaker 2: many of us were afraid we would spend our lives

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Speaker 2: in circa you know, the year two thousand, right, And

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Speaker 2: in a sense, the Matrix I think also builds off

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Speaker 2: of this in a very different way. But back to

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Speaker 2: office space. One of the great moments in office space

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Speaker 2: is these two consultants who are really just there to

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Speaker 2: fire people, right, it's just outsourcing or firing. They come

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Speaker 2: in and they're known as the two Bobs because both

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Speaker 2: of their names are Bob, and they ask in this

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Speaker 2: film various employees of I think it's called In a Tech.

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Speaker 2: I have seen the movie so many times that I

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Speaker 2: can remember these details. They ask the employees of inn

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Speaker 2: Tech a very straightforward question, but one that is terrifying

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Speaker 2: to some of them, what would you say you do here?

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Speaker 2: And there one there's one fellow who this results in

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Speaker 2: him completely melting down and freaking out and screaming at

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Speaker 2: them that he's good with people, which is very amusing.

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Speaker 2: I bring all of this up because the federal government

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Speaker 2: received an email recently meeting employees. Civil servants received an

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Speaker 2: email and it's from Doge and Elon and the subject

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Speaker 2: line is what did you do last week? And it

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Speaker 2: asks for five bullets of what you accomplished in the

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Speaker 2: last week. People that get this are supposed to copy

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Speaker 2: their manager. They're obviously not supposed to send classified info.

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Speaker 2: And the deadline has already passed. It was Monday at

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Speaker 2: noon and clay, the simple what would you say you do?

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Speaker 2: Hear email from Elon to the federal workforce has resulted

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Speaker 2: in panic and outrage. I think this is a brilliant

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Speaker 2: maneuver for a whole bunch of reasons we can get into.

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Speaker 2: But this is just showing so much, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine if you were in a job in

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Speaker 2: the private sector and someone sent you an email and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: response is I don't have to do. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to dignify that with the response. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Look, several things that jump out of me.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I thought David Sacks's answer to how

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Speaker 2: Elon ended up going through along with his assistance and

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Speaker 2: firing people at Twitter. If what he said is true

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Speaker 2: that fifty percent of the engineers that were hired to

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Speaker 2: code had not coded in recent history, then a lot

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Speaker 2: of people are being hired to do things that they're

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Speaker 2: not actually doing. I would also submit to you, if

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Speaker 2: you're probably not that useful.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Like most of the people that we employ at OutKick,

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Speaker 2: I know exactly what they do on a day to

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Speaker 2: day basis. Now obviously as entities become larger that becomes

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Speaker 2: more difficult. But if your boss doesn't know what you do,

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Speaker 2: then I would submit that you are very much unnecessary

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Speaker 2: in the larger apparatus. And I really do think there

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Speaker 2: has not been as much discussion surrounding, you know, when

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Speaker 2: I was mentioning to David buck Us being out of dinner,

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Speaker 2: roles are not particularly necessary to the profitability of the company.

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Speaker 2: Has long been bandied about as a discussion. But when

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Speaker 2: Elon fired seventy five or eighty percent of Twitter, and

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Speaker 2: remember everybody, this is important. Everybody out there was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Twitter's never going to work now. All of the people

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Speaker 2: that don't actually have to make money at their jobs,

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Speaker 2: that in other words, are not engaged in profitably running

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Speaker 2: businesses on a day to day basis said that, and

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Speaker 2: then what happened. There's been very little attention on this,

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Speaker 2: but David Sachs laid it out. It's actually now public.

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Speaker 2: Elon doubled the amount of profitability inside of Twitter while

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Speaker 2: cutting the overall revenue fairly substantially. Because advertisers bailed. Now

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Speaker 2: advertisers are starting to come back, and I think there

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Speaker 2: is a very strong chance buck that Twitter is going

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Speaker 2: to go to levels of profitability that is never achieved

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Speaker 2: before because what they had basically done was later on

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Speaker 2: seventy five or eighty percent of the staff that were

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Speaker 2: completely unnecessary. Now that is a for profit business, that

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Speaker 2: is they had to Prior to this, they had to

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Speaker 2: report their earnings, they had to report everything as a

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Speaker 2: can't tell me that seventy five or eighty percent of

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Speaker 2: the federal government couldn't be replaced and that there would

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Speaker 2: be virtually no impact, particularly now in an AI age.

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Speaker 2: The only objection to this that I've heard from anybody

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Speaker 2: who knows what's going on, and it's not really an objection,

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Speaker 2: it's just more of a cautionary note, is yeah, you

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Speaker 2: can get rid of a huge portion of these federal agencies,

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Speaker 2: but just make sure you keep the right percentage, meaning

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Speaker 2: that there are people who are doing good work and

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Speaker 2: are necessary in some of the constitutionally valid and necessary

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: You know, it would not be a it would not

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Speaker 2: be a good idea to in fact take the State

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Speaker 1: That would be a very bad idea. We do need

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Speaker 2: Of diplomatic relations with other countries around the world. We

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Speaker 2: do all this stuff. I mean, there's there is there's

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Speaker 2: need for some of these things that only the federal

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Speaker 2: it's not valid for them to try. But if you're so,

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Speaker 2: the point is just if you're going to cut eighty percent,

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Speaker 2: that's a valid concern. I also think that Elon is

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Speaker 2: in some of these situations, some of these examples that

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Speaker 2: have already come up, Clay, Elon thinks, and you can

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Speaker 2: see this. You know, you can say, hey, Elon thinks

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Speaker 2: and be correct because he shares it on Twitter, so

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Speaker 2: we know what he thinks about you. We don't have

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Speaker 2: to say guesses, which is also a whole change in

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Speaker 2: politics and everything else that's gone on. Now you know

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Speaker 2: what Trump is thinking, you know what Elon's thinking because

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Speaker 2: they share it with you directly on a regular basis.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to go through some filter.

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Speaker 2: Of, oh, may maybe in three months CBS is going

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Speaker 2: to have a sit down with them or something. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's all nonsenses. We know, but Elon thinks, Clay. There'll

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Speaker 2: be a lot of people who don't who we'll see

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Speaker 2: the deadline just passed, who don't respond at all because

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Speaker 2: they don't respond to emails because they don't log into

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Speaker 2: their government emails because they don't really do anything, yes,

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Speaker 2: and that is a very easy way to smoke out

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Speaker 2: in essence, who isn't even really a who's effectively a

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Speaker 1: Quite a few.

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Speaker 2: The reports are that over one hundred eight thousand people

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Speaker 1: Is that is the number?

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Speaker 2: So if we have two million federal workers, what is

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Speaker 2: that two million federal workers? If one hundred thousand take it,

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Speaker 2: decline overall in the employment. And if they can fire

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Speaker 2: valuable in nature, that's a massive savings over time. And

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Speaker 2: remember Elon's trying to get a trillion dollars cut out

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Speaker 2: of the budget, and then the goal is to grow

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Speaker 2: a balanced budget. We're about two trillion over right now.

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Speaker 2: So this is the overall schematic that he's working with.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just imagine also the political win. There's the

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Speaker 2: economic win based in math, which is what Clay was

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Speaker 2: my gosh, guess what, we're in a different place. But

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Speaker 2: also the political win of hey, you know how we've

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Speaker 2: about our spending problem unless we cut entitlements, you know,

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Speaker 2: Maybe that still is going to be how the numbers

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Speaker 2: the budget, it does make it feel like there's a

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Speaker 2: whole lot else that can be done and that will

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Speaker 2: support those programs. By the way, one of the biggest

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Speaker 2: problems is massive Medicare fraud.

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Speaker 1: They assume it's about.

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Speaker 2: Eighty to one hundred billion dollars a year clay, as

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Speaker 2: we've talked about here, that is that has been the

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Speaker 2: assumption pre Doge, pre Elon, that's been the assumption stretching

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Speaker 2: of it just straight up fraud. Okay, well, if you

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Speaker 2: can cut one hundred billion dollars that you know, and

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Speaker 2: maybe it's more than that. These things all add up.

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Speaker 1: It all helps. It's like running a household budget.

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Speaker 2: Would you have ever believed that Elon would be as

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Speaker 2: we'd come on here November sixth then said, Hey, I

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Speaker 2: his footprint in the administration grew.

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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 2: I got to tell you, never would have thought that

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Speaker 2: underestimated his degree of intro I've never underestimated. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I've been saying the guy's a genius for years. I

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Speaker 2: think he is a genius, quite quite obviously. But I

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Speaker 2: thought he was going to look at this and say,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to just launching my rockets

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Speaker 2: where I call all the shots, because this government is

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Speaker 2: just such a disgusting mess that it's it's you know, overwhelming,

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Speaker 2: and they're not letting me do anything, and he has

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Speaker 1: And we don't want that.

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Speaker 3: May.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Clay and Buck. Thanks thanks for calling.

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Speaker 4: In, Hey, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: So we saw something get a lot of attention over

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Speaker 3: The NCAA has complied immediately, by the way, that's good.

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Speaker 3: But I understand Maine is the Maine here, the governor

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Speaker 3: And by the way, your population, even though it's somewhat liberal, Lolo,

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Speaker 3: I did very well there. Your population doesn't want men

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Speaker 3: I'll see you, and good. I look forward to that.

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Speaker 3: That should be a really easy one. And enjoy your

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Speaker 2: President Trump not messing around there may and he's not

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Speaker 1: What's going on here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Main's governor is an idiot, I think is

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Speaker 4: federal law, Great, I've got a good one for her.

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Speaker 4: It's called Title nine. And Title nine requires that women

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Speaker 4: Yeah, on one hand, I'm so glad they are because

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Speaker 2: and senior policy strategist. She's calling us from the White

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Speaker 2: House today and May, I don't know if you saw this,

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Speaker 2: but it goes right to what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: There was a clip.

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Speaker 2: In exchange between I think it was one of the

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Speaker 2: Pods Save guys, you know, those like left wing Obama

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Speaker 2: era guys, and Bill Maher.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely Bill Maher.

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Speaker 2: So it's a Democrat and Bill Maher and he says, essentially,

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Speaker 2: if you guys don't stop with this gender transition for

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Speaker 2: minors stuff, you're going to lose every election for the

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Speaker 2: foreseeable future. And what's fascinating is the Democrat again, I

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Speaker 2: forget the guy's name, is like horrified by this idea

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Speaker 2: and thinks, oh no, we have to double and triple

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Speaker 2: down on gender transitions for minors.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the thing. So Main's governor is no leader.

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Speaker 4: She is a follower and she is following her party.

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Speaker 4: And so when Tisha James says, all of the hospitals

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Speaker 4: in New York are going to continue to mutilate miners,

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Speaker 4: mutilate and castrate miners, when California says this, when Minnesota

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Speaker 4: says this, you know, Janet Mills just wants to be

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Speaker 4: part of the cool kids club. But it's it's pretty

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Speaker 4: pathetic because the Democrat Party doesn't actually have a leader.

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Speaker 4: And so all of these people who are trying to

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Speaker 4: be woke, like who are you?

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Speaker 5: Who are you.

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Speaker 4: Showing off for Chuck Schumer? I mean, who's the leader

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Speaker 4: of the Democratic Party AOC. Who's actually making decisions? There's nobody,

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Speaker 4: And so that's who's making decisions. It's like the liberal

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Speaker 4: professors on Blue Sky. It's like the people who used

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Speaker 4: to censor us on Twitter. That's who's leading the Democratic

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Speaker 4: Party is nobody. It's a mob. It's a mob of

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Speaker 4: woke idiots who are over educated sitting in their parents' basement.

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Speaker 4: And so that's a real problem that the Democrats have

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Speaker 4: to have to respond to. It's the pod save guys

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Speaker 4: getting everybody worked up, but that victim culture of oh

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Speaker 4: my god, this is parable, this is terrible. I'm you know,

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Speaker 4: we need more men in women's sports. It is a

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Speaker 4: lack of leadership in the Democrat Party and I don't

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Speaker 4: actually see a leader emerging who's normal.

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Speaker 1: We're talking.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate her calling in from the White House right now.

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Speaker 2: Mae Mailman, you just were talking about the experience on Friday.

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Speaker 2: There is a report that I believe it was the

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Speaker 2: chief of staff or one of the main governor's associates

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Speaker 2: that was outraged by the president's interaction with the main governor.

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Speaker 2: Did you see that. I'm sure you saw the reporting

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Speaker 2: on it. What was the vibe in the room after

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Speaker 2: the interaction.

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Speaker 4: Like okay, so this is hilarious but also so telling.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, this the governor's meeting which was on Friday,

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Speaker 4: forty six governors. This is a bipartisan event. We're talking

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Speaker 4: about a super bypart is an issue which is no

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Speaker 4: men in women's sports. And of course, then the governor

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Speaker 4: of Maine stands up and says, I'm going to ensue

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Speaker 4: you basically, and yeah, it was tense in the room.

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Speaker 4: Is crazy, I mean, the president has an invited you

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Speaker 4: into his home and here you are acting in transigent

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Speaker 4: and also on such an unpopular issue. So the next

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Speaker 4: morning at nine am, the chiefs of staff come in

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Speaker 4: to ask any questions that they'd like to the White

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Speaker 4: House staff, and one of the White House staffers, great guy,

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Speaker 4: Alex Meyer, really nice kid, and Maine the main chief

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Speaker 4: of staff comes up and says, you know, I hate you.

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Speaker 4: Basically I want to do all this women's sports and

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Speaker 4: we said no, you've got to you got to save

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Speaker 4: women's sports for women, and he said f u u

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Speaker 4: asshole and stormed out of the room. So this is

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Speaker 4: this is the childish behavior of the state of Maine

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Speaker 4: is screaming that you're an a hole to the head

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Speaker 4: of inner governmental affairs at the White House and marching out.

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Speaker 1: So this is crazy to me.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you sharing this story because I've I've heard

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Speaker 2: it happened.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, for the governor of Maine.

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Speaker 2: Again, this is a state that Trump won an electoral

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Speaker 2: vote from, and I would imagine an overwhelming number because

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Speaker 2: we took calls on Friday from main residents actually agree

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Speaker 2: with the president here. That's kind of a crazy thing

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Speaker 2: for the chief of staff to be doing, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: from any state in the White House, I think, but

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Speaker 2: to react like this to something that the overwhelming majority

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Speaker 2: of your citizens would support has to be kind of

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Speaker 2: staggering even to you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is a total activist. So he

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Speaker 4: a former Planned Parenthood staffer, is activism is very much

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Speaker 4: in his DNA and Alex Meyer and the White House

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Speaker 4: said that this guy had his full speech prepared. He

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Speaker 4: wanted to make a name for himself, and so, you

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Speaker 4: know what, you do have a name for yourself. Now

527
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Speaker 4: you're known as an unhinged lunatic who's screaming at random

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Speaker 4: White House staffers. But you know who wasn't surprised was

529
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Speaker 4: the Republicans in the state of Maine, who came up

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Speaker 4: right after this story broke and said, We've been dealing

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Speaker 4: with this guy forever. So this chief of staff for

532
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Speaker 4: the state of Maine basically treats himself as a mini

533
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Speaker 4: governor and has been lording over all the people of Maine,

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Speaker 4: being totally impossible to work with. And apparently even after

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Speaker 4: he had stormed out of the room, which was totally

536
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Speaker 4: for theatrics. He still really needed to stay in the

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Speaker 4: room because he wanted to touch base with people. He

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Speaker 4: might have had some more questions, and so he actually

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Speaker 4: just lurked outside the room. So he stormed off, and

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Speaker 4: instead of going anywhere, he just stayed out like right

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Speaker 4: outside the room.

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Speaker 2: May did you have any idea when you signed up

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Speaker 2: to work in this White House that the first sixty

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Speaker 2: days or first thirty days rather going on sixty now

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Speaker 2: was going to be just such a blizzard of activity?

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Speaker 4: So I did and I didn't. So I was here

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Speaker 4: all four years last time, and it was busy. The

548
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Speaker 4: first one hundred d were busy, but it was nothing

549
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Speaker 4: like this. And I didn't do transition during Trump one

550
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Speaker 4: point zero, but I did transition this time. And so

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Speaker 4: I can tell you I kind of knew because we

552
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Speaker 4: were preparing all the executive orders, and I could tell

553
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Speaker 4: it was going to be busy. But one thing that

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Speaker 4: I didn't anticipate is the first time we'd sign a

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Speaker 4: lot of things, they would say a lot of words,

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Speaker 4: and then it would be like pulling teeth trying to

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Speaker 4: get people to actually do them. And there was a

558
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Speaker 4: lot of disagreement and now we'll sign something and people

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Speaker 4: implement them way more aggressively than I even wrote them.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, wow, you didn't need to do it that.

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Speaker 4: The implementation has been night and day different. So it

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Speaker 4: keeps us all on our toes. It's a lot of work,

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Speaker 4: but I think part of it is everybody's inspired, very

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Speaker 4: inspirational by the last four years of basically crisis in

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Speaker 4: this country, and so people are working at a different pace.

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Speaker 2: May, we'll have you on again soon. Love you with

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Speaker 2: the insider stories here. Keep fighting the good fight and

568
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Speaker 2: appreciate the time.

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Speaker 4: All right, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: That's May Melman and Buck.

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Speaker 2: That story wow, I mean the main chief of staff

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Speaker 2: losing his mind will open up phone lines. We got

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Speaker 2: a bunch of things still coming your way, Lee Zeldon

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Speaker 2: at the top of the next hour. But I bet

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Speaker 2: people are deeply unpopular sometimes like I believe Maine's governor's

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Speaker 2: decision is on this particular issue.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And Darryl on the mid coast of Maine wants to

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Speaker 2: call in. What do you think about this? Would you

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Speaker 2: have believed in Maine? How do you think your fellow

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Speaker 2: what are they main maners? What are the people of

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Speaker 2: Maine called? Daryl will know? Yeah, we're called Okay, what

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Speaker 2: do you think your fellow maners think about your governor

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Speaker 2: saying men should be able to play women's sports and

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Speaker 2: fighting with Trump about it in the Oval office.

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Speaker 5: The majority are embarrassed. The ultrump, the ultra side alto

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Speaker 5: laugh are calling her a hero. I've seen it on

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Speaker 5: Facebook posts. It's sad. Most most fan plase We're not

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Speaker 5: against anyone being making their own decisions but we want

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Speaker 5: our children to have opportunity that's equal and fair for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Amen, thank you for the call. John wants to call

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Speaker 2: in Central Maine. He's a former lacrosse coach. You said,

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Speaker 2: this is the kind of thing why you don't want

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Speaker 2: to coach anymore.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's good after you, guys. It's a pleasure to

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Speaker 6: talk to you, guys. Larry, I've coached for almost twenty

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Speaker 6: plus years, varsity boys and girls sports, high school level

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Speaker 6: and college level. It's disgusting. I mean, the governor here

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Speaker 6: is corrupt anyway, she is out of her mind.

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Speaker 1: The people here.

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Speaker 6: There's a large movement now going on since this happened

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Speaker 6: on Friday. What's happening before too? Because I have contacts

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Speaker 6: with some people in the Republican side in Washington, with

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Speaker 6: some people that they these things are already going to OCR.

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Speaker 6: A lot of things are being reported, but it's also

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Speaker 6: deeply entrenched in the schools and the curriculums and everything

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Speaker 6: else as well. This goes far beyond sports. But if

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Speaker 6: it was me and I was coaching and that happened

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Speaker 6: my girls, we're out of there. We're not freaking competing.

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Speaker 2: That's I think that's absolutely the right move, by the way, sir,

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Speaker 2: that's the intelligent and honorable thing.

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Speaker 1: People should just say no.

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Speaker 2: Imagine you're a coach of a girls high school team

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Speaker 2: and some girl gets her nose broken by a guy

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Speaker 2: he says he's a girl. It's crazy, absolutely insane. Lee

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Speaker 2: Zeldon coming back with us next