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Speaker 1: I Am all in again. Oh, i's you.

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Speaker 2: I Am all in Town meeting with Susanne French and

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Speaker 2: Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back another episode of I'm All in

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Speaker 1: Town meeting with myself, Tamara and Susanne.

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hi, we're talking about season three, episode twenty, Say good

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Speaker 1: Night Gracy, which aired on May six, two thousand and three,

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Speaker 1: and before we start, I didn't get to do my

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Speaker 1: deep dive after watching this, which I should have, but

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Speaker 1: I thought you might know the answer. Who is Gracy?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Did I miss something in the episode, like say good

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Speaker 1: night Gracy?

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. Okay, So, say goodnight Gracie is

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Speaker 3: an old old line from Burns and Allen by George

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Speaker 3: Burns and Gracie Allen, like way back in the fifties.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know how it.

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Speaker 3: Relates to this episode though, Okay, I'm like, I'm racking

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Speaker 3: my brain trying to think of some.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was just me. I was like, I

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Speaker 1: don't get it.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not getting it either. I can't think of

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Speaker 3: anything in this episode that really ties into that reference.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. Maybe the listeners have something for us.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I guess tell us in the comments

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Speaker 1: if you know, I don't. Overall, it was a good episode.

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Speaker 1: It was fine. It wasn't my favorite.

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Speaker 3: I actually loved this episode. I thought it was a

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Speaker 3: good episode for Luke. I liked ye see, he was

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Speaker 3: kind of in dad mode when he went to confront

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Speaker 3: Jimmy at the hotel room. It was kind of nice

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Speaker 3: to see how protective he was of Jess, you know,

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Speaker 3: even though they have like so many conflicts and just

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Speaker 3: such a jerk to everybody. You can see like Luke

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Speaker 3: had that sense of you know, family love or you know,

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Speaker 3: however you want to call it. But I liked it.

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Speaker 3: And then the like there his confrontation with Jess at

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Speaker 3: the end was you know, it was kind of it

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Speaker 3: was raw and painful from both of them, and I

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Speaker 3: just I just really liked that scene. I thought it

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Speaker 3: was great acting.

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Speaker 1: In the whole episode, I really liked the I didn't

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Speaker 1: it's so funny because I think I just don't like

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Speaker 1: Jess's dad as a character. I don't know why. But

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Speaker 1: I did really really like the scene between Luke and

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Speaker 1: Jess because I thought that was a really powerful scene. Yes,

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Speaker 1: for sure, especially at the end where he was like, basically,

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Speaker 1: then you can't live here. Yeah, Like he gave him

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Speaker 1: the option, all right, you're gonna because he didn't give

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Speaker 1: up on him at first. He was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: you're going to quit your job at Walmart. You're going

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Speaker 1: to work do one more year over and that's it.

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Speaker 1: Because he made a promise to his mom that he's graduating,

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Speaker 1: going to school. And then when he said no, he's

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Speaker 1: basically fine, then you're out. And you could tell in

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Speaker 1: that moment Jess is like, oh crap, like I really really,

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Speaker 1: like finally for the first time, he's like, oh I

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Speaker 1: messed up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was he was finally being held accountable.

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Speaker 3: Like it wasn't like he could talk his way out

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Speaker 3: of it, you know, like his usual I can catch up,

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Speaker 3: I can catch up, you know. Luke was like, we

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Speaker 3: of the deal and year out like that's it. You

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Speaker 3: knew what the consequences were gonna be, and now here

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Speaker 3: they are. So it was I thought it was good.

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Speaker 3: It was good to see him like held accountable for

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Speaker 3: his behavior because he's used to just you know, being

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Speaker 3: So I thought it was good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I were jumping around a little bit. But

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Speaker 1: the scene the I think it was the last scene. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jess and Rory at the very.

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Speaker 3: End on the bus.

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Speaker 1: How did she not see the giant duffel bag?

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Speaker 3: I know, I wonder that every time I watched this episode.

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Speaker 1: And also where was he going in his leather jacket

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Speaker 3: there's a there was a skyscraper out there, so the

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Speaker 3: stars hollow anymore. Yeah, it's probably, you know, just a

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Speaker 1: She's technically going to Chilton, so it wouldn't be startling anyway.

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Speaker 3: Right unless she had just gotten on. Because she goes

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Speaker 1: Also, the bus door isn't open for it is you know,

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Speaker 1: she pushed it open. I didn't even see that, and

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Dean was right, like that was

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I also really liked all this stuff between Miss

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Speaker 1: Kim and Dave and Lane. I like that storyline this episode.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dave was so good in this episode. I thought

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Speaker 3: he's like, I.

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Speaker 1: Read the whole Bible and she's like, I think that's

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Speaker 1: prom because she's like, who reads the whole Bible in

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Speaker 3: Right, He's like, I can't even feel my right elbow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was really also, but miss Kim had

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Speaker 1: a really great line we're at the funeral, She's like,

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Speaker 1: So I was gonna look this up, but I was like,

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Speaker 1: first off, is it not where they found out fran

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Speaker 1: died from a flyer? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So I have a whole thing about Franz Fran's passing

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Speaker 3: and her funeral because Feeler walks into the diner with

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Speaker 3: and he's handing out the candy and he's talking about

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Speaker 3: the grand opening, and he says it's gonna be too from.

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Speaker 1: Noon to six, so okay.

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Speaker 3: But then when they're at the funeral, he's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: the grand opening is postponed. So the funeral was the

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Speaker 3: day after. He was in the diner saying they were

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Speaker 3: going to have the grand opening, So how would they,

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Speaker 3: like Fran would have already been dead by them, Like,

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Speaker 3: they're not going to plan a funeral overnight, you know

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Speaker 1: Like if that makes sense, yeah, but I feel like

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Speaker 3: Like he comes in, he says, the grand opening is

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Speaker 3: Suki haven't even seen the note on the bakery yet,

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Speaker 3: so like they don't even know Fran has died. How

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Speaker 1: Time, Well, a funeral could be turned around fairly quickly,

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Speaker 3: Mean maybe I don't know. I've never seen the funeral

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Speaker 1: The day after, But like I wonder if I guess.

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking like maybe the family had because we

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Speaker 3: But how wouldn't how would they not have known that? Though?

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Speaker 1: Well that was that's my whole point. How was no one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I just it was just weird

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Speaker 3: but then the funeral was the next day.

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Speaker 1: Well I also think maybe simultaneously he had no idea

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Speaker 3: He knows everything that happens in that town.

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Speaker 1: So then here's what throws me off, Like, I guess

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Speaker 3: that didn't happen. She talks about how the baker, like

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Speaker 3: her family has been doing this for one hundred years

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Speaker 3: that she owned the bakery, and then they also I

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Speaker 3: think they also talked about it when Suki and Laurela

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Speaker 3: then she said in a different episode, my family has

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Speaker 3: had this bakery for one hundred or maybe maybe they

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Speaker 3: met a different bakery. I don't know, maybe they just

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Speaker 3: have been a bakery. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was some inconsistency there where I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little like because all of a sudden, she's

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Speaker 1: a long time. Also, what happened maybe like oh she

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Speaker 1: passed of she was ill, you know whatever.

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Speaker 3: guess they kind of just implied that, you know, she

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Speaker 3: just just died, just died, she just got old died.

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Speaker 1: But I will say, the the stuff at the funeral

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out who gets the inn it was

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Speaker 1: actually really funny.

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Speaker 3: It was, and everybody's like, I don't know, it just

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Speaker 3: was classical Laura lie that she's you know, she knows

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Speaker 3: what she's doing is wrong, but she's doing it anyway.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: It just it just was so funny. And I don't

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Speaker 3: know if you know, but the lawyer guy is Melissa

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Speaker 3: McCarthy's husband in real life.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yes, yeah, that's right. And he's in

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Speaker 1: season three episode twenty one, Here Comes the Sun spelled

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Speaker 3: Meeting adjourned.

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