1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: An interesting exchange of words happened this week between Sean 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Payton and his franchise quarterback Boat Knicks. Guys, let's take 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: a listening to the exchange between Seawan and bot. 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: A condition that was like predisposed right at that were 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: when the they always find a little bit more when 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: they go in, and it wasn't a matter of inferences, 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: a matter of when. 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: They have any presupposed this year is my ankles were 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: feeling really good. He said he had won in high school, 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: and then he said he had won an over. 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 3: I don't think he really should share how many surgeries 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: I've had in the past, to be honest with you, 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 3: But because I don't, you know, he doesn't really even 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: know that. 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 4: Well damn damn. 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: Hey they hey, listen, if I'm not mistaken, the head 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 3: coach and the quarterback is supposed to be on the 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: same page at all today those hey, Joe, them the 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: two people that's supposed to be a line and everything 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: on and off the field. And Bowden already showed he 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: not the one. You ain't gonna be just talking to 22 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: me any old kind of way. We've seen that with 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 3: him was the first y'all. 24 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was rookie. 25 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, he had to, he had to buck up 26 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: at Sean talk about man, No, I'm not one of them. 27 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: I'm not one of them. And so this is another 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: example of boy, you sharing. 29 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 5: A little too much information, but what you're doing. 30 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: Hey, hey, the players different, now, man, the players are different. 31 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 3: You have to conduct yourselves and carry yourself a certain way. 32 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 3: That old school wa Sean Payton has is not gonna work. 33 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: You know, he's been able to bully other players. You 34 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: know his approach and how he treated Russell Wilson on 35 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 3: the sideline. 36 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 5: You're not finna be able to do that. Come on now, Yeah, 37 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 5: both showing you. 38 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 4: He's treated He's treated a lot of players like that. 39 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 4: This is who he is. 40 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: This is Parceales. Yeah, he learned under par Sales. This 41 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: is how park You remember par Sales. When he said 42 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: that about Terry Glenn, he wouldn't even speak to t 43 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: O because he didn't want t O. 44 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: But Jerry Jones d it. He wouldn't speak to it, and. 45 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: He called he called, he called uh Terry Glenn a 46 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: derogatory term. Even his wife said that's not necessary. She 47 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: got a growing injury or something. She got something going on. 48 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 5: Because he is hurt. 49 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: So that that that's who this is. This is who 50 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: Sean Payton is. Me. I probably would have had a 51 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: problem with that coaching style because you can't talk to 52 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: me any kind of way. I won't let you talk 53 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: to me any worse than what my grandmother talked to me. 54 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 4: M hm. So hold on, y'all think he do that. 55 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, It does not matter if you're the 56 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: superstar or the lowest here. Absolutely, that's this is who 57 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: he is because that's how part sales was. 58 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: Old school. 59 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: But I mean, all this distraction and look, he fired 60 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: he fired Joe Lombardi, who's the offensive coordinator? And then 61 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: looking at a day, they see this Davids was it 62 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: Davis Mills? What's the what's the quarterbacks coaching? David's Mills. 63 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: But now you see, well he's looking for an offensive coordinator. Well, 64 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: if you wanted, if you wanted to, because I believe 65 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: you could have demoted her the way you handlet o Joe. Joe, 66 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: you demote if you want to. If you want Davis 67 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: Mills to ascend, you just demote. And then Joe Lombard's like, hey, 68 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: either I can I can step take a step back, 69 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: or I can, or I'll just move on. 70 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 4: That way is his choice. 71 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 1: But when you fire a man because of a call 72 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: that you made, even if there is a case that 73 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: you want Davis Mills and you want David's Webb, even 74 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: if you want to keep Davids webup, it just looks 75 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: suspicious that you fired a guy that didn't call any 76 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: play and he damn sure didn't call that fourth down play. 77 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: But now the reports are that he's looking for another 78 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. You had one, you call that Sean. You 79 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: just got to own that one. And sometimes on Joe, 80 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: and I know it's hard, it's hard. Sometimes it's hard, 81 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: Joe to admit when you're wrong, when you made the mistake. 82 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: It's hard to admit that. It's easy to place to 83 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: blame on something. Man who left this damn refrigerator open? 84 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: You know, damn where you left that refrigerate open. But 85 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: it's either to try to put that on somebody. Man 86 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: who left my grandfather, who left these lights on? You 87 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 1: the last one in therebod the badbody in the road. 88 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: What you mean, who left the light on? You did? 89 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: But it's easier to blame someone than to accept accountability, 90 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: especially in a situation like this, O Joe, because this 91 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: was an opportunity to get to the super Bowl. But 92 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: there's not enough people in close proximity that you can 93 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: put that blame on the defense gave up less than 94 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: two hundred yards. Joe. 95 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 4: Lombardi does not call plays. 96 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: So who did decide to four go points and go 97 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: forward on fourth and one and run a very similar 98 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: play that you ran the scored on the first touchdown, 99 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: knowing that the likelihood of them giving up a similar 100 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: play is not very likely. Give them credit defensively because 101 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: they blitzed. It's like, if you run the ball, we're 102 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: gonna stuff your run and guess what, we got your 103 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: outflank to the short side of the field too, So 104 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: you're dead. 105 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: You're dead. To right, You're done. You're done. 106 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you would have to hope for a Joey would 107 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: have had to have been a bust of coverage. Somebody 108 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: had a slipper, Yes, but run running that boot to 109 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,119 Speaker 3: the short side of the field. 110 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 4: Uh, Nate Jackson? Who I remember? Nasty Nate? 111 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: A player of injury history, medical details or confidential information. 112 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: Sean Payton refused to discuss any player of injuries all year. 113 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: Then when bo Nicks get hurt all of a sudden, 114 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: he's singing like a canary. Weird to say the least 115 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: it is. 116 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's doing it basically away from. 117 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: Me. 118 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. 119 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: So now the conversation that's being had is the exchange 120 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: between between him and both instead of that god damn bullshit, 121 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: ask for a down. 122 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 4: Call that bone that bone head play he with for her? 123 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: Yo, yo, but that but that's but, but that's what 124 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 1: I do if I mess up? Let me say, cause 125 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: what you did as a child. 126 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 4: Oyo. When people get on me, they talk. 127 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: About my clothes, or they talk about the way I talk, 128 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: I start talking about somebody else, they start laughing at them. 129 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: They forget that somebody had got on me first. So 130 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: what I do to make y'all stop forget about that? 131 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: As O Joe said that fd up call man, let 132 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: me fire the offensive coordinator. Let me talk about bold 133 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: Knicks was predisposed. Okay, just because you're predisposed to something. 134 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: I have a cancer runs in my family. So this diabetes, 135 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: high blood pressure. Now I've had prostate cancer, but that 136 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: doesn't mean I have I don't have high blood pressure. 137 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't have diabetes. So just because you're predisposed. That 138 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: does mean you get it. That means you're more susceptible. Yeah, 139 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: they're a greater possibility. And but why are you giving 140 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: out this man details about his medical history? He said, Okay, 141 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: if he said it, they should have it on record. 142 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 4: You don't need to regurgitate it. 143 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, no need to tell us. 144 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: And besides, that still does not excuse I don't care 145 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: if he had both legs in a cast. They ain't 146 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 1: got nothing new. That call you made. Let's talk about 147 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: that call. I felt if we went up by fourteen, 148 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: Tim would have felt like fourteen considering how poorly and 149 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: inefficient they were, ineffective they were at moving the football. Yep, Weather, 150 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm like I said, I think Seann's a phenomenal coach. 151 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: I just think some of the things is that the 152 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: old school in the way you talk to player and 153 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: may look, oh, Joe, you know, I'm as old school 154 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: as you come. But I do realize that you got 155 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: to talk to people a certain way now, the way 156 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: the way you and I was raised, we could never 157 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: raise our kids like that. Were going to jail. Oh no, 158 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: we're going to jail, Joe. Is really that simple? Yeah, 159 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: my grandfather, Grandma, Mama, just pick up something bushell at 160 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: you broomstick, shoe. 161 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 4: It ain't dont matter which is track you're going to jail. 162 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 5: I used to tell you. 163 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Grandma used to tell you, go get me a 164 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: switch from the tree. You know, I'm gonna get the 165 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 3: more the flimsiest switch I can find, just to kill time, 166 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: because I know she's gonna see me back out to 167 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: get the right thing. 168 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: But you gotta be careful because some of them flimsy 169 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: ones that things don't break, They didn't bad. Hey, I 170 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: try to be something that's brittal. Oh this thing look 171 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: real good. Here be one or two times that it's 172 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: all over the floor. You gotta you gotta be careful 173 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: back in the house. But uh yeah, hey, they be knowing. 174 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 4: You to stay close. And the trick you gotta stay 175 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 4: close to her. 176 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: When she did the thing, she get mad because you, hey, 177 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: somebody make you bite your tongues and somebody make you 178 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: stub your toe. And my grandma started beating start gritty. 179 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 5: I'll never forget them. It's so funny. 180 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not sure how y'all got beaten, But 181 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 3: my grandma used to beat me. 182 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 5: She used to talk. Yeah, she would talk with every 183 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 5: with every lick. 184 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: I told you not to be acting up in them 185 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: people school embarrassing me like that? Oh my goodness, so 186 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: may I got the whole beating was a whole reaction. 187 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: Oh, grand told me I should have told your ass 188 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: up last week when you acted up in then. Joe, 189 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: you know what you know it used to make me mad. 190 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: You have relatives come over. 191 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 4: You know. 192 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: I had to tell that boyd ass. Nobody asked you that. 193 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 3: That. 194 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I showed toe that answer. 195 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: I shut down on him. 196 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 5: Hey, I never forget Joe. 197 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, Joe, grandma favorite line. I'm sending you to school, 198 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: and I'm telling you right now, if I get a 199 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: call wherever you show out, that's where you're gonna get 200 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: wo out and long behold. Boy, If I'm acting a 201 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: fool in class and that teacher called, I remember I 202 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: got embarrassed in front of the class one time. Boy, 203 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: as a freshman at beach time. I'll never forget. And 204 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: she came in that class. Obviously I'm a little older 205 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: than I and she walked in that door, sat in 206 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: a chair right behind me. 207 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 5: Man, I was so embarrassed and so embarrassed I. 208 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: Was worried about it, calling the house that phone was disconnected. 209 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: Calling you won't you you didn't. 210 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 4: All you're getting the go ahead, call. 211 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: Go ahead, right. They ain't got nothing to do. They 212 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to do with me, but my big 213 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: my sister granted, you know that boy don't listen to nobody. 214 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: He shut up that that's because that's cause Uncay he 215 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: used to snitch on Jim. Yeah, theych I would. But 216 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: the best thing about it, because you gotta realize, like 217 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: when I was in my sister's eight years older than me, 218 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: so that I was in kindergarten, my sister was like 219 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: a freshman, freshman in high school. Then I had two aunts. 220 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: Uh so I went seventy three. I think Gladys graduated 221 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: in my seventy three, so Gladys might have been a senior. 222 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: My aunt Gladys was a senior Jane shermanin Livids. So 223 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: all them so you know, back but here it's funny. 224 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: The white the black people sat at the front of 225 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: the bus. The white people sat at the back of 226 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: the bus. When using stoodent, I was just cool. The 227 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: whites we sat in the front. The black people sat 228 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: at the front. The white sat at the back. So 229 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: my two aunts would sit together, live in one of 230 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: my and and spanking, and and and and buck my 231 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: sister would sit together. I have a seat by myself, 232 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: stretched out, come up, Yeah, could I say what you know? 233 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: And what? 234 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 4: Have a big old seat by myself? It never been 235 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 4: never it never it would it would never be. 236 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: And you don't know if you knew what you if 237 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: you knew what you know now, then you would have 238 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: done things differently. You would have behaved differently. But I'm 239 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: not so sure your We had behaved differently, we wouldn't 240 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: be who we are today because it take all that 241 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: could already know. 242 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 4: I was, I was good at school, but I was 243 00:12:59,120 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 4: I was sneaky. 244 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: I would you know, I would do stuff and when 245 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: my would live in span get the best of me. 246 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 4: I'm taking off. I'm hollering. I'm telling hey, my grand 247 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 4: that'd be the he who made that boy cry. 248 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 5: That a d a deep voice in all talk. 249 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 4: Hey leave that boy alone, So you don't. It ain't 250 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:29,599 Speaker 4: nothing wrong with me. 251 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: But since he say leave that boy alone, or who 252 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: made that boy cry? Now I got to cry, Oh, 253 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: oh Joe, I'm about to run. That's That's how span 254 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: got so fast because he had to catch before. I 255 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: tell Papa, you. 256 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 5: Gotta pay me seven. 257 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 6: Hey, hey, okay, oh Joe. My grandpa used to talk 258 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 6: to us through the screen though he wouldn't even let 259 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 6: us in the house. He's like, what you want, man, 260 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 6: we come down here to the chair. Now, I know 261 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 6: y'all come down trying to pip me in your. 262 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: That was that was that was a live I tell, 263 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: I tell I couldn't help it. I don't know why 264 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: I was like that though it wasn't raised like that. 265 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: Spiky would never tell you, it would never tell the 266 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: youngest Marinell would never tell on Gladdys. Gladys would never 267 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: tell on Marydell Shermandine and Jane never told on each other. 268 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: But me. 269 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 5: And See, I know, I know a Joey. 270 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 4: We talked. 271 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: We talked about, you know, that hypothetical situation with with 272 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: the rep. If we had twenty four million and split, Yeah, 273 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, we might not be able to do it. 274 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: That was long. Times were tight. 275 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but you know it's if it was in 276 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: you back then, it's still in your nine Joe, what 277 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: what you're trying to say? 278 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 5: We might have to take on god manh Yeah, that. 279 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: You already know, because this man ain't trying now they 280 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: already know. We go a whatd y'all fight of the house. 281 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: Nothing well, damn y'all was going off a long time. Yeah, 282 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: but we had to make sure we can, you know, 283 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: make sure we went through the house thoroughly. Instead of leader, 284 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: we had to call it somebody. We done stashed a 285 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: couple and we just stashed a couple of bricks. He 286 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: want to take all the money. 287 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't know. They sent us on the case, right, 288 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 5: so listen, we went on the case. 289 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: We thoroughly checked the house upstairs, downstairs, did everything we 290 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: need to do, went behind the walls, under the beds. 291 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 3: A matter of fact, we checked the dog house. We 292 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: digged up the dog house and make sure there was 293 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: nothing nothing unto the doghouse. 294 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,239 Speaker 5: And we didn't be We didn't find anything. We did paperwork. 295 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 5: Matter of fact, we called we called it back up. 296 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 3: After we stashed everything we need to stash, we ain't 297 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: find nothing. 298 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 6: I think that's the conflict that me and I'm willing 299 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 6: to get something. Ojoe, O Joe. They gonna give us 300 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 6: probably a little bit or whatever. 301 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 5: Good, Well, you know, good world, we don't got Yes. 302 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 4: Let them have the other fire, that love of eight. 303 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: So guess what, yoe. We're gonna get some new vests. 304 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna get some new body cams, we get some 305 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: new cars. 306 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, I don't like Damn the camera went my 307 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 5: light went out. Hey, you know what, I don't like that. 308 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to take both of all that. 309 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 4: I'm saying. Agreed, agreed. 310 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: Listen, Hey, God, God, God put that there for a reason. 311 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: God put it there for a reason. Y'all talk about 312 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,119 Speaker 3: giving it back. Listen, stuff don't happen by accident, blessings 313 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: in that kind of magnitude that. 314 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 4: I ain't saying we give it all to him. I'm saying, 315 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 4: we give some of. 316 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: It to him. 317 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 5: If he wanted him, if he wanted them to have. 318 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 4: It, he would have put it in here. We consider that. 319 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 4: I tied. 320 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 5: Okay, we'll didn't give it to the church. 321 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, that's that's that's the high. 322 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: That's that's what we left for them. I would break 323 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: the church off too, but I got you gotta get 324 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: break the church off an increment. 325 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 4: You know, you can't. 326 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: You can't just go dump a one hundred thous on 327 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: the church. They're gonna be looking at They gonna be 328 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: looking at you sideways, not Joe, if you told me exactly. Yeah, 329 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, dropped off the bag. Yeah, I'm 330 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: helping with the building. 331 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 4: Fun. 332 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 5: You know, they always want to get the windows fixed. 333 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: Man, that build. That building ain't never been. That build 334 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: ain't got no roof, ain't got no windows to it. 335 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: They got nothing. So I already know the building for 336 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: I already know that building ain't gonna get completed. So 337 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: I would start with a piano. I'm gonna buy some 338 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: new pews, new pulpit. I'm gonna do all that. The 339 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: building for the lost calls that's the bridge to nowhere. 340 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: But uh no, I I just think Sean. I think 341 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: we're all in agreeans here that Sean is trying to 342 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: do the art of misdirection. 343 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 4: I fed up. Let me see how much commotion I 344 00:17:59,359 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 4: can cause. 345 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a long until they get back 346 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: into a similar situation in advance. 347 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 4: There's not gonna be You're not gonna be no, not 348 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 4: not an egregious like an egregious era like this. 349 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: And when you have a backup quarterback, I don't know 350 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: if he'd have been if they would have killed him 351 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: as much if he'd had bow knicks. 352 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 4: But you know, you gotta back up. 353 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: You know the weather it's going to get worse because 354 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: that's what the forecast had predicted. 355 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 4: And then you still roll the Knights by going for 356 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 4: it and you crapped out. Oh Joe Yo. 357 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: Sean Payton announced that the teams party ways with offensive 358 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: coordinator Joe Lombardi, wide receivers Carrie Kobert, and cornerbacks coach 359 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: Addison Lynch. Lombardi spent twelve years over two differ stance 360 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: on Peyton's staff with the Saints, and it's been the 361 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: Broncos offensive coordinator since Peyton was hired in twenty twenty three. However, 362 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: Peyton is the offensive play caller. Sean, don't do this, 363 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: look at I love Sean Sean Payton's break. Why you 364 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: fire that man? You made the call, You went for 365 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: it on fourth down, Joe Lombardy, So what Joe's farther 366 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: to say? 367 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 4: Coach? 368 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,719 Speaker 1: You an f an idiot if you do this right. 369 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: I don't get I don't I can see if Joe 370 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: Lombardi called the players. But first of all, every coach, 371 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: every play caller that's not the head coach. The head 372 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: coach is listening in. Nah, let's run it. In this situation, 373 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: he could have easily said. 374 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 5: That I got a question. Who fired him? 375 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: Sean Payton? Jean Peyton fired him. Sean Payton has a 376 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: lot of control, A lot, right, Damn. I wonder what. 377 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 4: Because he getting a lot of heat for that boat. 378 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 4: He getting a lot of heat for that call. 379 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 5: The premium, the weather, the same carry Colbert that played receiver. 380 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: I guess I don't know now carry Colbert? Carry? Yeah, yeah, 381 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: he played during he played during Remember carry Colbert. I 382 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: think he went the USC. I could be wrong. 383 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 5: I think I think he went the USC. Chat carry 384 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 5: Colbert when to the USC. 385 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: Didn't he? I just don't understand how Sean could fire 386 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: this man. And it ain't Nobody gonna be sitting back 387 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: there thinking, like, Sean, what you doing? Bro? 388 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 4: You call that play? That's on you. You knew the weather. 389 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: There's no way nobody can convince me that Sean Payton 390 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: didn't know that weather was gonna get vastly different in 391 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: the second half that it was in the first and 392 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: ten points Now, obviously you don't expect your quarterback to 393 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: turn it over the negative field position. 394 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 4: But still. 395 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: M M. Peyton has consistently said he will not surrender 396 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: play calling duties as Broncos oci Lombardy was in the 397 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: coachings booth and among those on the headset during the game, 398 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: but Peyton was the voice in the quarterbacks helment. So 399 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: how the Cordy lose his job when you calling the plays? 400 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 3: It might be something else we don't know about him. 401 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 3: They might have had some disagreements. They might have had something. 402 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: I told you you an f an idiot for calling 403 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: going for it on fourth down. That's why he fired 404 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: me because I was divorcee of reason. 405 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 3: But you and that might that might be some stuff 406 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 3: internally that we don't know about on you know, maybe 407 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: a disagreement probably on exactly what you exactly what you 408 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: just said. 409 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 5: And who knows. 410 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 3: I mean, if you know the right people, you'll probably 411 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 3: find out. Though you'll probably find out the real reason 412 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 3: why he was fired. 413 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: I don't think Sean Payton must have not thought that 414 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: he was gonna get this kind of criticism. Bro. That 415 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: is a backup on his third team, and you have 416 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: an opportunity to go up ten to nothing. 417 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 5: Kick that ball. 418 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: Sean had started to get high on his own supply. 419 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: He had started to drink the kool aid that he 420 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: really thought that Jerry Stiden was like that. He did, 421 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure you want to pay Manning. I 422 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: don't think Bill Belichick in that situation. I think Bill 423 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: Belichick because Bill understands situational football. He understands he done 424 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: got the weather report. This thing is gonna get bad 425 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: in the second half. 426 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 5: As much as I can. 427 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: Ten points might be enough to win this game. And 428 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: I'll be damn ten points was enough to win the game. 429 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 4: I know it hurt. I know I hear it in 430 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 4: you boy. 431 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: You know what Joe. 432 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: And I told Ojo this. I said, if both had lost, 433 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 4: if we had lost with both. 434 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, it'd have been bad. 435 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 4: You don't think y'all had a chance. We had a chance. 436 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a chance. We kicked them, but he 437 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: had to. But he couldn't turn the ball over. Were 438 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: you playing with the back were you playing with your backup? 439 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: Your back up can't turn the ball over. Yeah, because 440 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the capability and the world with all 441 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: to go get those points back. That's not Tom Brady. 442 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: That's not Peyton Manning. That's not my home. That's not 443 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: one of those guys that can have a turnover and 444 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: still have that kind of have the ability to make plays. 445 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: That's not He's not a playmaker. Not. The Bills promoted 446 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Joe Brady as the next head coach earlier 447 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: this week. 448 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 4: The division. 449 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: The decision to fire Sean McDermott and elevate Brady rather 450 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: than clean house is now under heavy scrutiny. 451 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 4: O Jo, are you confident that Joe Brady is the guy? 452 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 5: I mean, what's the goddamn difference? He was already there here. 453 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 5: You might as well kept me. You might as well 454 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 5: have kept miss McDermott. 455 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: Joe. 456 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 5: That don't make no sense to me. 457 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're a head coach and someone that's under you, 458 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, if you find McDermott, why the 459 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 3: hell everybody else fire? 460 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 6: They want a different voice in there, Ojo, Man, come on, now, 461 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 6: I don't understand. 462 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 4: Have Brandon Bean kept his job. 463 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 3: The GM. 464 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 4: I don't know how he kept his job. 465 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: That's what I need somebody to help me explain that 466 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 1: to me, because it seemed like Sean McDermott called all 467 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: the criticism, And I get it, you know, Mistergoula, you 468 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: know he's supporting his GM because he gave him more title. 469 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: But those pulayers, I think, you know, he wanted to 470 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: put what's the keon Coleman? He put that in the 471 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: lap of a Sean McDermott. 472 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just. 473 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 5: It's crazy, A new voice, that's. 474 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: The same voice. I look, I don't look. I think 475 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: Joe Brady did a phenomenal job. I think the thing 476 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: is Ojo is that at Sean McDermott. You know, his defense, 477 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: they've been one of the top offenses, but defensively is 478 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: kind of where they faltered. And that's his level of expertise. 479 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: Remember they fired Leslie Fraser. 480 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, Lessie Fraser was our decoordinating Cincinnati too. 481 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's be frae yep, Frazer. 482 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 4: So what's the what do you think super Bowl? The 483 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 4: bus this year? Oh? Yoe for the Bills. 484 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,239 Speaker 3: I mean, well, hell, that was supposed to be this year. 485 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 3: This year, this was the easiest route for him. You 486 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 3: ain't had to deal with three or three of the 487 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: better players out. 488 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 5: Of the AFC, you know, so maybe maybe next year, 489 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 5: make maybe next year is a little different. Maybe he can. 490 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 4: He can. 491 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 3: He can run the garblet, he can beat my homes, 492 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 3: he can beat Burro, he can beat We don't know, 493 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 3: we don't know what next year is gonna look like. 494 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 5: But hell. 495 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 4: And what the Bills need? Receiver A one. 496 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: They got. 497 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 4: I think the thing is, Look, they turned to too 498 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 4: many turnovers. This was on Josh. 499 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: This was on Josh because Josh could in the postseason. Joe, 500 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: he had had a turnover in since playoff games. He 501 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: picked the worst time to have the most turnovers he's 502 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: had in a very long time. It's hard to win 503 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: on the road with five turnovers and form as at 504 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: the hands of your quarterback. Now, guys, fumbling and stuff 505 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: like that ain't really a whole lot you could do 506 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: about that. But this, this was on Josh's watch. So 507 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: it's it's it's tough. And you know, Sean McDermott. I 508 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: know Sean McDermott, Oh, Joe, and I was talking about 509 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: look this grand standing. He knew he couldn't challenge that. 510 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: He knew that call to call what it was, and 511 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: he knew the you know, uh uh, you gotta survive 512 00:26:54,240 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: the ground. But he knew they probably had they If 513 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: they didn't flat out tell him, they probably alluded to, 514 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: You're gonna need to get to the super Bowl in 515 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: order to stay. 516 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: In his job. 517 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 5: You probably you probably knew that. 518 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: Oh, I knew because I talked about this, O Joe. 519 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: You laughed at because I told you in October. He's like, you, 520 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: thank brother mcdermoy. I said, oh, yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, 521 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: you did. 522 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 5: You did say it was out of them if they 523 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 5: didn't win. 524 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: What I tell you about, what I tell you about 525 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: the Steelers and the Ravens, the coaching situation. 526 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 5: Harbor, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, new boy boy. 527 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: Hell Harbor had been there for a minute eighteen and 528 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: uh he been there eighteen years and Tomland had been 529 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: there nineteen. The Browns O Joe have far hired former 530 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: Ravens offensive coordinator Todd Monkin to be the next head coach. Monkin, 531 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: who had spent the last three seasons in Baltimore, will 532 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: become the Cleveland was eleventh full time coach since returning 533 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: to the NFL in nineteen ninety nine, and Monkins's first 534 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: season with the Ravens. He helped Lamar Jackson win his 535 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: second MVP in twenty twenty three. Despite the great success 536 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: in twenty three and twenty four with Monk and his 537 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: Ravens oct As Lamar Oc. Monkin had chemistry issues during 538 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: the previous season. As reported by team sources, Monken demanding 539 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: coaching style clash with Lamar's preference. 540 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 4: O Yo, Yeah, how do you. 541 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: See Todd munkin handling the battle between your door and 542 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: Deshaun If he couldn't deal with Lamar. 543 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: Well, listen, he's had some successful Lamar. It doesn't matter 544 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 3: who coach Lamar. Lamar is going to be who Lamar is, Joe, 545 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 3: you can go out there and coach Lamar. He's going 546 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: to be the exact player he's always he's always been. 547 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: He's going to be that two time MVP type player 548 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 3: that can change the dynamic of a game at any point. 549 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 3: Todd Monkin is gonna have to get in his bag 550 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: over there in Cleveland that he's going to have. He's 551 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 3: gonna have to get in his bag as an officer 552 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: coordinator and have a plan. I'm not sure what that 553 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: plan is going to be. I'm not sure who you're 554 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 3: gonna go with, whether Dashawn Watson, whether it's tell Dylan Gabriel, 555 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: whether it Shador Sanders, but he's going to have to 556 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: find and find out very quick who's going to be 557 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: the who's going to be quarterback number one in the team. 558 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: And after that, then you forgot what you're gonna do 559 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 3: in the other surrounding eras offensively where you need help, 560 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: and they're going to need a lot of help. I 561 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 3: have no problem with the hired self. He's had success 562 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 3: obviously with Lamar, but there is no Lamar Jackson in Cleveland. 563 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 3: There is no Lamar Jackson in Cleveland. Therefore, everything Todd 564 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 3: Munkin has to provide to help those quarterbacks, he's gonna 565 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: have to be in his bag. 566 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: Hunh. 567 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 5: He got to be in it. 568 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: Remember he won two national championships with Stethson Bennett as 569 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: a quarterback at University of George. 570 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 5: Hold on night. 571 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, Stetson Bennett quarterback on a Georgia team 572 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 3: that was loaded on goddamn defense. Now he has he's 573 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: going back to a team where they're loaded on defense. 574 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 3: Now that a killings here for the Cleveland Browns has 575 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 3: always been on offense. You can get that offense on point. 576 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 3: Just meet him, meet him halfway on just maybe somewhere 577 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 3: Joe in the middle. 578 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: Of the pack. 579 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 5: He got to be top five. He gotta be top five. 580 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 5: Just meet us and meet us half goddamn way. 581 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 4: Please, they got some promise to young talent though. 582 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 5: Please wait a a what's the tight end name? 583 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 4: What? 584 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 5: Hey? That young and that young boy there? 585 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 4: What a joe? 586 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 5: He is the real deal, Yes, sir, he's the real 587 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 5: and speaking of and speaking of the Cleveland Brown. 588 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: If I see Miles Garrett anywhere in Santa Cla, yeah 589 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 3: he got he got to see me. 590 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 5: Jot. He send the jersey to the Hall of Fame 591 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 5: instead of getting to me knowing ask for it first. 592 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 4: Man, we told you he was gonna do that. 593 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, Hey, Joe, I'm for the mollywopping joey. 594 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 4: O joe oo loon. 595 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: Let that go. 596 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, you don't. You don't disrespect 597 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 5: me like that. 598 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: You told me you was gonna give me a jersey, 599 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 3: so that means you're supposed to be a many a 600 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: word in give me a jersey. I don't care who 601 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 3: asked for it. If I ask first and you say yes, now, 602 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 3: I gotta whoop your ass. 603 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: Well. 604 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 4: I don't think he gonna be ducking on smoke. 605 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 5: Yep, but he ain't got a duck. He ain't got 606 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 5: a duck. He ain't got a duck. 607 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: He gonna get what he's looking for. He think he 608 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 3: had twenty three seconds, gonna be twenty four when I get. 609 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 5: Them with you. 610 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: I think the thing is for me, O, Jo, let 611 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: me know what you think, Joe. I think it'll be easy. 612 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: It's it's hard to coach superstar quarterbacks. It's hard. 613 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 4: It ain't easy. 614 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: Ask anybody that's ever had to coach him. You think 615 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: it's easy coaching Don Brady? Now, it makes your job easy. 616 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: But they gonna need to know. They need to know. 617 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: What you're telling me is a legit. They got questions, 618 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: they gonna need you to give them answers. Not I 619 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: get back to you. No, you better find you better 620 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: know the answer. It's not easy coaching these guys now, 621 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: because these guys are brainy. G I mean, you talk 622 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: about Lamar and Lamar like Lamar. 623 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 4: Hold on, Wi, you who are yelling? Who do you 624 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 4: think you're talking to? 625 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 3: And I'm so glad you just mentioned that too. Well, 626 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: how hard it is the coach quarterbacks. And I'm not 627 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: sure if you've seen the clip, Joe or un I'm 628 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 3: sure you saw the clip, Uncle, I know you've seen 629 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 3: it before, but goddamn Bill O'Brien and Tom going at 630 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 3: it on the sideline. 631 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, Brady going down the sideline chat. I don't know 632 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 5: if you guys have seen that clip. You know, So 633 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 5: if they went at it like that on the sideline, 634 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 5: what you think happened in practice? 635 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 4: Oh? 636 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, Joe, one of the greatest times of my 637 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 3: life being in New England Patriot is God damn Bill 638 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 3: O'Brien and Tom Brady going at it in practice for 639 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 3: about five minutes straight. 640 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 5: I'm talking about. You think i'd be messing up cursing 641 00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 5: on here since time? 642 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: Hey? 643 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 5: Hey, Joe, I was sitting there smiling the ear like, 644 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 5: oh what they really go to Hey, I'm like, Oh, 645 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 5: this is how it is. 646 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 3: No one of these dudes win all the goddamn time. 647 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 3: Everything got to be right, Joe. 648 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 5: Everything has to be perfect. 649 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 3: If it's not perfect, you're doing it over and you're 650 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 3: not doing the playoff, You're starting the whole period over and. 651 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 5: Doing it again. That's what was expected of everybody, especially offensively. 652 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 5: So when things didn't go right, Tom got on Bill. 653 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 3: When things didn't go right, Bill got on Tom and 654 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 3: they kept that standard no matter what, and it helped 655 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,239 Speaker 3: me understand well, god damn no wonder they win all 656 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: the goddamn time. 657 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 5: And oh I wish you could have been there to 658 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 5: see that. I ain't never in the history. 659 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 3: Of all the time that I played the game of 660 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 3: football ever seeing a quarterback and the coach go at 661 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 3: it like that was awesome. 662 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 5: And from that point on the rest of practice. 663 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 4: Oh, you got to have a standard. 664 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 5: Mistake, not one drop ball, no nothing, It's just everything 665 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 5: went smooth. We went out there. 666 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 3: I forgot who we played that week. Man, we put 667 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 3: up back back Damn there forty points. Joe put a 668 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 3: band of forty points. Oh that's a year we went 669 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 3: to the super Bowl. Joe. 670 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, we went the Super Bowl that Yeah. 671 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 4: Man, there has to be a spectation we all lost 672 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 4: to that. Yeah o Joe the Giants? 673 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 5: Man. 674 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Eli, yeah, Eli sideline against Covid on the side, 675 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 4: dropped it, he dropped. 676 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 5: That was a beautiful throw. 677 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 4: That's a beautiful throat. Yeah. 678 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: That's why I look, you know, being around Johnny, being 679 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: around Mike, because Mike was like that, for real, you 680 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 1: might get away if you drop one in a team period. 681 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: Drop two started over lord, please all, I said, I 682 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: don't want to be the one right right man? Boy, 683 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: look here, Mike was hell. Man, there's an a. 684 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 4: When I say he said, don't accept anything of the win. 685 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 4: You wouldn't have lost. 686 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, he meant that. 687 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: We Yeah, he had to have. We had to get it. 688 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: I mean, run catch any path. I don't give a 689 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: damn if it was a down flat you finishing forty 690 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: yards forty. 691 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, and come back and they got to run back. 692 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 693 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: But then you like, okay, now understand why we do it. 694 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: You get a greater appreciation for why you do things, 695 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: and you see, okay. So this is why the forty 696 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: nine ers had success because they were they were like 697 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: the Patriots in the eighties. Yes, he's like, okay, now, 698 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: why see now? 699 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 4: Why see. 700 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 5: Who? 701 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: Brown's defensive Coording to Jim Swartz, might be out of 702 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,479 Speaker 1: the door after the team, hiding Monkt as his head coach, 703 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: according to Tom Peloceo. Pelo Cero reported Man that Swarts, 704 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: who's one of the three finalists, was visibly upset and 705 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 1: said goodbyes in the building and told other coaches he's 706 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: not coming back. Opposing teams. I reportedly r pounds if 707 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: he leaves. Also, Miles Garrett just posted on ig. 708 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 3: Bro sitting there like damn, hey, Joe, you see you 709 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 3: see that lady that work at Popeye. 710 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 5: See how she looked? 711 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 3: Yes, Uh, that's just how I'm gonna have Miles looking 712 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,479 Speaker 3: when I catch up to him out there in Santa Clara. 713 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: Just like that, Miles, Like, man, man just got me 714 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: a unanimous defensive Player of the Year. I was playing 715 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: good this man and dituition. 716 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 4: What y'all do? 717 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 5: Hey, hey, come on now, you don't man. 718 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 3: Listen, anybody you could have been coaching that Brown defense, 719 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett still would have got them twenty three sacks. 720 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 3: He still would have been an All Pro. As matter 721 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 3: of fact, even if Missus Swartz is leaving, whoever comes 722 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 3: in to take over that goddamn defense, You got the 723 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 3: pieces in the personnel where you're gonna be alright. Man, 724 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,959 Speaker 3: you got the pieces in the personnel where you gonna 725 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 3: be alright. That was the top five defense all season long. 726 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 3: Now they Joe, they ain't shabby at all. 727 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I checked them out a few times. 728 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 5: Very good. 729 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: They just need some pieces offensive. They need a wide receiver, 730 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: they need offensive line help. I think in jok who's 731 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: gonna leave, so get another tight end? 732 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, then why they got fanned in? If it don't hurt. 733 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 4: They have two of them though, can find you what 734 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 4: in the fourth and fifth round. M h, I like it. 735 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: I like him. 736 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 4: I like him a lot and he nice. 737 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 6: You thinking Joku's gonna gonna gonna require too much money, 738 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 6: They're gonna move like you said, they got they got Fanning, 739 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 6: So you know we go draft the tight end. 740 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 1: We get him on a on a on a low number. 741 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: Run a lot of double tight end sets. Yeah. Look 742 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: at the Patriots, they got Hooper and they got Hunter Henry. 743 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: You look at the Bills team. You know. 744 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 4: It definitely helps, definitely. 745 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: Tom Brady joined The Course of Boys is living that 746 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: coach Billy Belichick was snubbed from being a Pro Football 747 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame said, the voting committee decision is completely ridiculous. 748 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: The quarterback coach combination bred in Belichick famously team to 749 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: lead the Patriot to six Super Bowl victories nine conference championships. 750 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: Multiple sources spoke with Belichick over the weekend described him 751 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: as puzzle and disappoint by his inability to secure support 752 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: of at least eighty percent of the Hall Committee. O yo, 753 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: we saw how the Hall did too, But could you 754 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: have ever imagined them doing this to Coach Bill Belichick? 755 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 5: I mean, listen, this get back for them is get 756 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 5: back for them. 757 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 3: For all the press conferences, Bill really being one that 758 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 3: really doesn't disclose much. He doesn't give you much during 759 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 3: those interviews, and this is what happened to you. You 760 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 3: got people in positions of power that are able to 761 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 3: control the narrative and control who gets in and who doesn't. 762 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 5: They did it to Terrell Owens, so. 763 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 3: Them being able to do it to Bill Belichick, who 764 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 3: doesn't sit right with a lot of people that are 765 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 3: in those positions of power to control who gets in 766 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 3: and who doesn't. I mean, it was shocking to me, 767 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 3: but I kind of understand it because this is what 768 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 3: happened when you have ego and pride and people who 769 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 3: can control certain narratives when it comes to certain people 770 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 3: a young Honestly, it's efing ridiculous. 771 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:57,760 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. 772 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 5: It's politics. 773 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 3: Is this as prestigious as it is to be able 774 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 3: to get into the Hall of Fame and what it means, 775 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 3: I mean, this kind of lessens the value of actually 776 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 3: getting in based on accolades and resume. 777 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 5: It lessens it. 778 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 6: Because what's the criteria to get in the Hall. Obviously 779 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 6: he meets all that. 780 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 4: When he comes and meets it, he exceeds it, beyond 781 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 4: meets it. 782 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 5: Right, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. 783 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: On a lot of what you said had a lot 784 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: of true to it. We saw a situations a couple 785 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: of days ago with the Tracy Morgan situation. He got 786 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: treated back one way when he was younger. 787 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 4: Now he's in a. 788 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: Position that he could actually help somebody. He's like, nah, 789 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: I remember you, you bullied. I remember you. 790 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 4: Come on now now, same thing. 791 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: The people that Coach Bella checked wrong way back when 792 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: when they tried to talk and he was smug and short. 793 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 4: Now looking two things. 794 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: Can be true, Yes, sir, they got to get back, Yeah, Chuck, 795 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi coach Lombardi, coach Chruck No coach Dom Landry, 796 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: coach Don Shuler. 797 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 4: The four coaches that's entered the Hall and on. 798 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 1: Their first on their first try, they are the fourth 799 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,879 Speaker 1: first ballot coaches to go in in the Hall of Fame. 800 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,439 Speaker 1: Coach Belichick has more Super Bowls than any of those. 801 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: He has more victories other than coach Sula. He has 802 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: more playoff wins, probably more than all of them combined, 803 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 1: more division titles. 804 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 4: He's a he's a. 805 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: There's no doubt, There's no doubt. But I'm just trying 806 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 1: to figure out where was the uproar when t O 807 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: didn't go in. They listen, Chack and I this is 808 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: not and I'm just not a white or black thing. 809 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm telling you a right and wrong thing. What they 810 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:04,240 Speaker 1: did to to was so egregious. They changed the rules 811 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: to keep him out on the first ballot. They didn't 812 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: change no rules. These are the same applicable rules that 813 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: every member that's been voted on to go into the hall. 814 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,439 Speaker 1: When they said, no matter what a person does off 815 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: the field, you can't you can't use that to keep 816 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: him out in the hall. Only what he did on 817 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: the field. When it came down to TiO, they changed 818 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: the bylaws. What you did on the sidelines could be 819 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: used against you, What you did in the facility could 820 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: be used against you. Because they had nothing on him 821 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 1: off the field, TiO has never been in trouble. He's 822 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 1: never running fire with the laws, he's never having his 823 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: name be mentioned for any impropriety TiO. He led the 824 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers in receptions the receiving, he led the 825 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 1: Eagles in receiving. He led the Cowboys in receiving. He 826 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: led the Bills in receiving. He led the Bengals in receiving. 827 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 1: There are three men in the history of the NFL 828 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: that's been a first team All Pro with three different teams. 829 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: One of them is one primetime Dionne Sanders, First Battle 830 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. The other is Ted the Stark Hendrix Hendrickson. 831 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: He and one Taror Owens. He's one of three men 832 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: with one hundred and fifty receiving touchdowns in the history 833 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 1: of the game. Now we're the mate. Now the Hall 834 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: of Fame doesn't. So now the Hall of Fame doesn't 835 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: have any marriage. When you kept there been so many 836 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: guys that should have been a first ballot and you 837 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 1: kept them out. I yes, what they did to Coach 838 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: Belichick is egregious, and he should have been a First 839 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: Battle Hall of Famer, but so so should have too. 840 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: So if you didn't want to change the rules and 841 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: say nook, what they did to t O was wrong. 842 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, whoever didn't vote for coach Belichick. 843 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 1: It needs to be made public when there's never ever 844 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: been a cry to make the votes public. 845 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 4: Why now? Yeah? 846 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean obviously because it cause it's Coach Belichick, 847 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 3: because it's vote Coach Belichick. 848 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 5: And it's egregious, just as egregious as I'm not letting 849 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 5: to win. And this is one of the things, as 850 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 5: as much as the Hall of Fame means to so many, 851 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 5: you know, and I just for me, you know how 852 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 5: I am. 853 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 3: I and Joe you know me as much as we've 854 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 3: known each other, you know me extremely well, and those 855 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 3: who know me personally know I'm one that it never 856 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 3: needed validation. I'm one that conducted myself in a way 857 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 3: where I felt if I can't be authentic to myself 858 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 3: and I still be accepted and whatever it may be, 859 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,479 Speaker 3: I don't really care, you know. So, Joe and uncle, 860 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 3: you got to think when I put that Hall of 861 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 3: Fame jacket on myself, you know that it was not 862 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 3: an approval of any and everybody, even coach Lewis. A 863 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 3: Joe came to me after the game and say, you 864 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 3: know what, that's not gonna sit right with a whole 865 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 3: lot of people, especially those voters and I told coach 866 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 3: Lewis after the game, I say, Coach Lou, when I 867 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 3: put that jacket on, that was to let you know 868 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 3: and everybody else know, I don't need your validation. 869 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 5: At that moment. 870 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 3: After that touchdown and I crossed that ten thousand yard mark, 871 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 3: that ten thousand yard mark, I felt I was Hall 872 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 3: of Fame worthy and I don't need which they probably 873 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 3: wouldn't because I was always I was always the problem child, Joe. 874 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 5: I enjoyed that. 875 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 3: I enjoyed that, that perception that I had of enjoyment 876 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 3: and having fun in my way and not conforming to 877 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 3: what they felt I should have been. Like now, at 878 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 3: that moment, I felt I was Hall of Fame worthy. 879 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,240 Speaker 3: That's why I put the goddamn. 880 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 4: Jack Joe, Joe, I'm gonna trip you out now. 881 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: Now, this is what they said, that spygate and the 882 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: flight gate might have had a might have had some 883 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: bearing or some way to it to keep coaching them 884 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: to check out. I don't know if you noticed this, 885 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,439 Speaker 1: but I was a criminal justice major. Do you guys 886 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: know what fruit of the poisonous tree is? So the 887 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 1: way you the way that they do this. If you said, 888 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: coach Belichick got these super Bowls and these victories through 889 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 1: ill got means who benefited from those ill got means? 890 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: There's a guy coming up for the Pro Football Hall 891 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 1: of Fame, They say, he to go. Yes, sir, it's 892 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: gonna be very interesting. Who would have been a beneficiary 893 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: of f Firegate? Who would have been a beneficial of 894 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: the Flaygate? 895 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 4: Twelve? 896 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: Are you gonna keep Tom Brady out? 897 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 4: You're not so? 898 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 6: Why would you keep Coach Belichick? Hey, I got a question, 899 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 6: Uncle o Joe. Who does the voting? Are these egolens? 900 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 1: They do? They do have? They do have. I think 901 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 1: like three or four players that do vote, but none 902 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: of the almost four hundred. Most of it is fifty 903 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: men and women. The mere fact that like sometimes Joe 904 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 1: the Wad does is that you have a writer from 905 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,760 Speaker 1: your city, from your team, and he makes an argument. 906 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,439 Speaker 1: When they went up to do damn Marino, they said 907 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: damn Marino and they sot back down when it did 908 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and say Peyton Manning and he sat back down. 909 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: You don't even have to make a case that should 910 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,320 Speaker 1: have been how should have been for Coach Belichick? You 911 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,879 Speaker 1: already know its resume. The second most wins, the most 912 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: playoff wins seventeen eighteen A division titles, six Super Bowls 913 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: as a head coach, two as the defensive coordinator. 914 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 4: His game plan is in the Hall of Fame. When 915 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 4: he shut down the K gun. 916 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 1: In Super Bowl I think it was Super Bowl twenty 917 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: So they shouldn't have had it there, shouldn't be. They 918 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: shouldn't have to You shouldn't have to build. 919 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 4: A case because it's playing is right there. 920 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: You know what the man did. This is not No. 921 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: Nineteen sixty And I'm not saying I'm not trying to 922 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: discredit anybody, but this is the modern era. Anything that 923 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 1: happened the Super Bowl demand So in the last twenty 924 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 1: five years, have we ever seen a streak. 925 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 4: Of domination in the NFL in the history of the game. 926 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: No, So it's gonna be these same fifty mini women 927 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: that y'all said spire Gate and the flight Gate wad 928 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: in the winning well who benefited. So that means nobody 929 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: that played on those teams during those Figate and the 930 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 1: Flaygate can go into the Hall of Fame for the 931 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: first ballot. By your argument, I'm just using what you 932 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: said because y'all used that and then all of a sudden, 933 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: Now don't nobody know. Bill Polly say he can't remember 934 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: if they just had the vote last week, Ocho, you know. 935 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 5: They got you know, they remember, Joe. 936 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: They years if I can see if it was fifteen 937 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 1: to twenty years ago, Man, I can't remember. Man, there's 938 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,280 Speaker 1: so many guys because we voting, they got one hundred 939 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,839 Speaker 1: and twenty guys, and we got to wheel it down 940 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 1: to seventy five. We gotta take it down in the fifty, 941 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: we gotta take it down to twenty five, and then 942 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: we get it all the way down to ten. 943 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 4: And then we got a senior committee. 944 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: So I can't remember all that over the fifteen years, 945 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: O Joe. 946 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 3: Man, then they remember, they remember, Hey Joe. They pick 947 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 3: and choose when they want to move the gold. 948 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 5: They do depending on who it is. And this is 949 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 5: this was okay, now we got you you yes, yes, yes. 950 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 4: And that's what I try to tell players, O Joe. 951 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 1: Yes, that is exactly how it works, because at the 952 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: end of the day, Oh Joe, you gotta realize, I 953 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,760 Speaker 1: understand you're supposed to take that out of it, but that's. 954 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,800 Speaker 4: A human being. They got feelings. 955 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,359 Speaker 1: You can't give somebody your ask the kids and them 956 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: expect them to do you a solid even though that's 957 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: what the law, that's what their job requires. 958 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 4: But they're human at the end of the day, Joe, Cause. 959 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,800 Speaker 1: Everybody knows Coachy Belichick should have been a first ballot 960 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame because if he's not, well, who's is. 961 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: I said the same thing with TiO. I said, if 962 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: to is not a first ballot Hall of Fame receiver, 963 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: I don't know who is. I don't. 964 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,320 Speaker 4: I really don't. 965 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: And I used to think I knew what a Hall 966 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,399 Speaker 1: of Famer was having played in the game, having played 967 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: against a lot of the guys that went in, because 968 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 1: basically anybody that went in, say ninety five on, I 969 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: probably played against him or saw them up close and personal. 970 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,360 Speaker 1: So I know, Oh, Joe, you know, we go in there, 971 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 1: we break down, meeting, we know the good player. What 972 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 1: the media says and all the fan base to get 973 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 1: all excited about. All I know is that when we 974 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 1: took that guy off that tape, he wouldn't one of 975 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: the guys we circle. I'm gonna leave it at that, 976 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: so we know for them to do that, Coach, it's agreedious. 977 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:19,839 Speaker 1: But I believe two things can be true. 978 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 5: And hey, Joe, that's that's in bullcrap. 979 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 3: Man. 980 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 5: I just. 981 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 3: I hate when people are in positions of power, and 982 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 3: I never would I would love for players that that 983 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 3: are always asking to get in. I know they would 984 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 3: love to be honored, but I hate the fact that 985 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 3: some of them they beg and and they hog and 986 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 3: they and they and they try so bad to want 987 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,760 Speaker 3: to be a part of something because of what it entails, 988 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 3: you know, and and needing the validation just because you 989 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 3: don't wear that gold jacket, don't mean you wouldn't that boil. 990 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 3: I feel you deal based on resume and accolades. When 991 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 3: you turn that film on, it's still there. The numbers 992 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 3: you put up, the stuff that you've done during your 993 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 3: career is still there. It ain't going nowhere. And I 994 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,400 Speaker 3: just I would never ever give anybody, not just the 995 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame in general, never give anybody the satisfaction 996 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 3: of knowing they got that over me and being able 997 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 3: to control in how I feel. 998 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 1: It's a situation. Also, mister Kraft, what the hell we 999 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: wait on? Tell me an owner? And I get it, 1000 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: some of these old owners, mister Modell Art Modell, I won't. 1001 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:33,919 Speaker 4: I won't. 1002 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 1: I won't disrespect him calling mister, I call him Art. 1003 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: All right, look at what he did. You got Moneay 1004 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: Night football. He was the reason why the benefits of 1005 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 1: the union. 1006 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 4: He's the reason why. But because he. 1007 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 1: Moved this key team from Cleveland to Baltimore, because they 1008 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: the city, they wouldn't they wouldn't get played for the 1009 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: upgrades to the stadium. He's the only owner there have been. 1010 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,959 Speaker 1: The Raiders go back and forth. The hell the Raiders 1011 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 1: was moving like they had a mobile home. Hook up 1012 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:04,920 Speaker 1: the truck and just move it up and down and 1013 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 1: they go to Oakland and back of LA. They go 1014 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: to LA, they back to Oakland, back and forth. Never 1015 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 1: had to leave the Colors. The Rams, y'all do like 1016 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Y'all do realize the Cardinals used to be 1017 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: in Saint Louis, Oh Jo. 1018 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, they moved. They didn't have to leave the Colors. 1019 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:24,800 Speaker 4: The Rams. 1020 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 1: The Rams originally started out, they weren't in they were 1021 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 1: in California. Then they moved to Anaheim. Then they moved 1022 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 1: to Saint Louis, moving them back. They never left the Colors. 1023 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: The Colts. Mr Arth Say, Bob Urth Say moved them 1024 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night in nineteen eighty four, 1025 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 1: like a thief of the night, loaded up the mayfly bands. 1026 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 4: And moved them. 1027 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 1: And he never left a color or a record. The 1028 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 1: Tech the Tennessee Titans, they used to be the Houston Oilers. 1029 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 1: They went to Nashville first. Excuse me, Yeah, they went 1030 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,360 Speaker 1: to Memphis with the Memphis I think they went to 1031 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: Memphis first, but anyway, and then they went to Nashville 1032 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 1: and never have to leave a color or record. Art 1033 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 1: Modell is the only owner in NFL history that has 1034 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 1: moved and was required to leave the colors and the 1035 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: records in Cleveland, and they still won't put him in. 1036 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 1: Mister Kraft, what more can you do? How much more 1037 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 1: can you win? Because they put a lot of owners 1038 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,399 Speaker 1: in before him, that's one less than him, and he's 1039 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 1: been in after them. Don't get me started. Don't get 1040 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 1: me started. I'm good now now I can speak my mind. See. 1041 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: I used to hold back because I was really trying 1042 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,719 Speaker 1: to get my brother because I know they're gonna use 1043 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 1: what I said against him, But now he is. I 1044 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: hat now if it lets y'all know how I really 1045 00:53:55,719 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: feel to your rooms, you the way you did t 1046 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,800 Speaker 1: O was absolutely wrong. The way you did Bill Belichick 1047 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 1: was wrong, dead ass. The way you've done mister crap, 1048 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,320 Speaker 1: and the way you've done Art Modell is wrong, and 1049 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: you know it. 1050 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 4: They make them pay. Boy, how much? How much more 1051 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 4: can I pay? 1052 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 6: I don't know, but they ay it's it's obvious. It's 1053 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 6: obvious because you know his accolades meets the requirements. I 1054 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 6: mean he obviously we all know that Bill Belichick is 1055 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 6: the first ballot. You know, maybe due to the uh, 1056 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 6: the Flakegate, all the shenanigans that is that has transpired 1057 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 6: with the Patriots. Obvious seen them rubbed them people. 1058 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 4: It's it has joke. 1059 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: But you know what, but I think the thing, Look, 1060 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 1: Coach Belichick did not make it on any reporter to 1061 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: do their job. 1062 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 4: He didn't make it easy. He didn't I think we can. 1063 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 1: He wasn't the easiest person to do your job. But 1064 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 1: he's more than worthy of being a first ballt of 1065 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Two things can beat your question, and 1066 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 1: they are in this situation. But I don't believe now, 1067 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 1: because it's egregious on the level of t O that 1068 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 1: all of a sudden voters should have to reveal himself. 1069 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 1: So now I guess let me see now, o yo. 1070 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 1: So if we start doing this, I guess everybody that 1071 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 1: voted for a candidate that that my candidate didn't win. 1072 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: I want to know everybody that voted for the other candidate. 1073 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,800 Speaker 1: Now I need to see names. You see how ridiculous 1074 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,359 Speaker 1: that sound. That that's the whole one of the vote 1075 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,839 Speaker 1: voting booth. That's why you're going to oko, O Joe, 1076 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 1: you pull the curtain because don't nobody's supposed to see 1077 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 1: who you voted for? Or now if you want to tell, 1078 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 1: who knows. I don't know if I believe you or not, 1079 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,799 Speaker 1: because you're lie. People lie so much now I don't 1080 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: know if I believe it or I would never vote 1081 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,239 Speaker 1: for him. Check I wouldn't vote for her either. Check. 1082 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, O yo, I'm just saying. But in 1083 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 1: this situation, everybody knows coach Belichick, and like Coach Belichick. 1084 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 4: It hurts it. 1085 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,400 Speaker 1: See like when your name came up, Like when the 1086 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 1: first time my name came up in two thousand and nine, 1087 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 1: I was one of the one I think I got 1088 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 1: got whittled down and then I made the final ten. 1089 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:24,759 Speaker 4: H made it to like the final ten Final ten 1090 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 4: made it to like. 1091 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 1: The room of the like the five because back then, Ojo, 1092 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 1: the uh, the coaches and and and owners went in 1093 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 1: like players. They since changed that. They since changed that 1094 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,840 Speaker 1: because the owner and a and a contributor. There are 1095 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 1: two different things, o Joe. They didn't they they ain't 1096 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: on no damn fail. So how you go in as 1097 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 1: the as the as the equivalent of a player that 1098 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 1: actually played the game. So they changed that, and I 1099 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: agree that the next year I come back, O Joe, 1100 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,239 Speaker 1: I got less votes the second year that I did 1101 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: the first year. I said, I said, you know what 1102 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: if I didn't get in, I said, if you didn't 1103 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: like my stats this year, you're gonna hate them next 1104 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,800 Speaker 1: year because they're not gonna get any better, and the 1105 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: guy that's coming behind me gonna have better stats. 1106 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 4: I said, I can't add to it. 1107 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 1: I said, I wish I could go back and get 1108 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 1: me another fifty catchers, maybe another you know, seven eight 1109 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 1: touchdowns on ho and go to a super Bowl. But 1110 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 1: there ain't nothing I can do. All I can do 1111 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 1: is just go back, go back and look at my 1112 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 1: body of work, and don't compare me. Don't compare me. 1113 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 1: Against Ozzi and Kellen and John mckei and Mike Dicker. 1114 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 1: Look at everybody tight ends that played in the ninety 1115 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,440 Speaker 1: and look how far ahead I was than them. And 1116 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 1: I played in a running scheme. Yes, sir, so I said, 1117 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 1: judge me by the nineties. Don't judge me by what 1118 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 1: Kellen and Ozzie and Dicka and Mackie and Christensen and 1119 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: all those guys, Dave Casper, because that's unfair. That's unfair 1120 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,480 Speaker 1: to them, that's unfair to me, I said. But my 1121 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 1: resume speaks for itself. Go ask the defensive coordinators that 1122 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 1: had the game plan me and ask him what they. 1123 00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 4: Thought of me. 1124 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 5: Oh what. 1125 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 1: As Floyd Peters as gun for Cunningham, as coach Cower, 1126 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: as coach Bell. 1127 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 4: Check as to what they thought of me? 1128 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 1: Y'all? See see sometimes on yo, sometimes the antiques can 1129 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 1: overshadow the plate. And you know, look, you know me, 1130 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm having fun called the national Guard. I'm talking crazy Toto. 1131 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 4: A lot of people. Oh yeah, all, I know. Yeah, 1132 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,920 Speaker 4: my team's won, period. 1133 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 5: See that's not fair man. What hey, Joe, his team's won, 1134 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 5: but mine was losing. 1135 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 4: He a O Joe, he a Joe. 1136 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 5: I play I played one hell of a hand to Joe. 1137 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 5: You hear me, I played one hell of a hand too. Yes. 1138 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,320 Speaker 1: Look they didn't say I couldn't have we couldn't have 1139 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 1: fun while we're playing our job with the car block, 1140 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 1: help our team win, get the ball in the end zone. Yeah. 1141 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 1: Look yeah, and Cincinnati, you didn't have the best You 1142 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: wasn't the best setup. I don't know if it was 1143 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: the most conducive for winning. Like, yeah, that's the head 1144 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 1: you look at. If we're playing spades, some people, Joe, 1145 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 1: replace space. If you don't get any spades, you throw 1146 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 1: the hand in. Some people play if you get face cards, 1147 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: you gotta play the hand even if you don't have spade. Well, oh, Joe, 1148 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 1: you have face cards. You didn't have spades, but you 1149 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: had to play that damn hand, and you played it well. 1150 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,960 Speaker 1: You got a couple of books out of it. You 1151 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 1: got six Pro bowls, you got all pros. Come on that. 1152 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a lot of that can but ain't winning. 1153 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 1: Look here, the only I've never heard tell me the 1154 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,600 Speaker 1: time you've seen a receiver, he has the most comeback wins. 1155 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 1: The only winning that matters is quarterbacks. That's why they 1156 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 1: have how many wins Tom Brady have, how many wins 1157 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,520 Speaker 1: Peyton Manny have? How many wins pack your homes? How 1158 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 1: many come from behind wins? They don't put that on 1159 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 1: anybody else. They don't get that tie of the coaches. 1160 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 1: They don't give it to tight ends, wide receiving, defensive, nothing. 1161 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 1: So only winning is tied to the quarterback. That's the 1162 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 1: only when it winnings mattered to That's what they tell you. 1163 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: That's what they tell you when they want to get 1164 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 1: and see it. Guy in now, they want to keep 1165 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 1: you out. They dead ass wrong, they know it. Coach 1166 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 1: Belichick should have been the first ballot Hall of Famer. 1167 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 1: I like Coach Belichick when he's not in Coach Belichick mode. 1168 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 1: He the really great guy to be around. I went 1169 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl with him and had a conversation 1170 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 1: sitting at the bar, talking having a drink. I wasn't 1171 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 1: drinking at the time. I was drinking Bergin strawberry Jacker, 1172 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 1: probably about seven thousand calories. But you know, we at 1173 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:46,439 Speaker 1: the bar having a good old time. I was working 1174 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 1: with CBS at the time, and I think it might 1175 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:54,920 Speaker 1: have been who is the coach? Am? Not trying to 1176 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 1: think who the coach was. I can't even remember who 1177 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,919 Speaker 1: the damn coach was now. I mean, I know coach 1178 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 1: Belichick was a coach. I'm trying to think who the 1179 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks were. I can't remember. But when you get Coach 1180 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 1: belicheck away, when he's not in New England and he's 1181 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 1: not in that that focus, he's great to be around. 1182 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: And everybody that's ever been around if player, will tell 1183 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 1: you he's great to be around. But when he's in 1184 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 1: that mode, he's all business different, he's different. It's just 1185 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 1: like the quarterbacks. Peyn opened up a little bit, but 1186 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 1: when he get away from football, he's just better have 1187 01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 1: a good time. 1188 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 4: All the way down. 1189 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah yeah. 1190 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 5: And the funny thing about it is this what I like. 1191 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,440 Speaker 5: I mean, Joe and Uncle, I tell you this all 1192 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 5: the time. 1193 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 3: I would love for players to stop being so pc 1194 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 3: and beat themselves in front of the cameras, But most 1195 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 3: of the time, depending on who you are, especially the 1196 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 3: face of the team, you have to conduct yourself a 1197 01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 3: certain way. I am so happy, Joe that I was 1198 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 3: able to not only play with Tom, but see Tom 1199 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 3: outside when that is not rolling. I'm so happy I 1200 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 3: was able to see Peyton Manning at the Pro Bowl 1201 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,880 Speaker 3: outside when that kid is not rolling that God damn 1202 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, who I worked with all last year on 1203 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,439 Speaker 3: inside the NFL. I was glad to see that Bill 1204 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 3: outside of the Bill that everyone sees in front of 1205 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 3: that goddamn camera, and they ain't nothing like that in 1206 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 3: real life. 1207 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,400 Speaker 4: He ain't seeming a little more open on the NFL. 1208 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:35,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe, They nothing like that in real life, and 1209 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,920 Speaker 3: you would have to know them personally, and it almost 1210 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 3: it almost to them. It does them almost at this 1211 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 3: service where the rest of the world can't see how 1212 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 3: really dope they are because they have to be one 1213 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 3: way when the camera's motherfucking I'm. 1214 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 1: Sorry they have to be so they have to be 1215 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,959 Speaker 1: so buttoned up because everybody's trying to get. 1216 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 4: That got you moment with one of those guys. 1217 01:02:56,080 --> 01:03:00,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Peyton, Tom, all these guys they're really really but 1218 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,479 Speaker 1: when the cameras all around, But when they're just hanging 1219 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 1: out with friends and buddies or being somewhere their. 1220 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 4: Fun money, that's Tom Brady. 1221 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1222 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,480 Speaker 4: I was when I played in Phoenix and we had 1223 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:15,440 Speaker 4: the two time m v P. 1224 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 6: Steve Nash. You know, he used to go out with 1225 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 6: us Ojo. He used to hang out with us Mari 1226 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,200 Speaker 6: Quinn Richison and she would be with us in the spot. 1227 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, good old time. 1228 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,920 Speaker 5: You know, Joe, I know Steve a little bit. You know, 1229 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 5: I play. I played soccer with us. Yeah, I play. 1230 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 5: I played soccer with Steve all the time. 1231 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 4: A uh, he used to Uh. He liked playing hockey too. 1232 01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 6: We came to practice one day, you know, uh, you know, 1233 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 6: hockey and andastball. 1234 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 4: It's the national pastime. 1235 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:47,800 Speaker 1: Man. 1236 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 6: Listen, Ojo, we came in. That man had on skates. 1237 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 6: He was out there on that ice. Used to have 1238 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,160 Speaker 6: seen coach went crazy. Man, what did you here doing? 1239 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 1: Man? Know what he's doing though? Every boy were moving 1240 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 1: on the ice. Man different, different, dude. It's embarrassing, it 1241 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 1: really is. I still think the Hall of Fame is prestigious. 1242 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 1: It's the it's the heaven for the individual sport that 1243 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:16,440 Speaker 1: you played, basketball, football, baseball. Uh. It's kind of I 1244 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 1: guess it's kind of like going into the if you're 1245 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 1: a musician, the rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, o' 1246 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 1: shoe and Provisional bull Rider. I think that's in Colorado Springs. 1247 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 1: It's your football. It's your football heaven. It's your football Mecca. 1248 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 1: I remember my grandmother when I called my grandmother. When 1249 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 1: I finally got to call in twenty eleven, I called 1250 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 1: my grandma. I said, hey, Grandy. She said hey. 1251 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 4: I said, Grant, I'm going to the Hall of Fame. 1252 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 4: I never forget. 1253 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:43,160 Speaker 1: She say, what's that baby? I say, uh, I said, granted, 1254 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,640 Speaker 1: that's why, that's why all the good players go. She said, 1255 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,439 Speaker 1: that show is good, Son, that show good. I show 1256 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 1: hope I'm around to see it because at that time, 1257 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 1: o t he had gotten really, really sick. 1258 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 4: So this was in January. This was in January, beginning 1259 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,320 Speaker 4: of February. She passed in July. 1260 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 1: So she didn't actually she didn't actually you know what 1261 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But she realized. My grandmother knew she could 1262 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,120 Speaker 1: not see that ceremony physically. She had to leave this 1263 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,960 Speaker 1: place physically and go with me there spiritually because then 1264 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 1: that body wasn't gonna take her. And so to hear 1265 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 1: like ooh, that showed that showed good, she would always 1266 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,680 Speaker 1: have my sister live and find that boy on TV. 1267 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 1: My sister put the TV on because you know, back 1268 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 1: then we were really good. So the Broncos always came 1269 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:37,440 Speaker 1: on in that late window for UH, for c NB, NBC, NBC, NBC, 1270 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,600 Speaker 1: so we always came on a late window. 1271 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 4: It is a huge honor. 1272 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 1: It is. 1273 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 4: It is a huge honor. 1274 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 1: But there has been some damage done by some players 1275 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 1: that didn't get in that should have gotten in. 1276 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 4: And even if no matter what you. 1277 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 1: Think about t O and TO should have been the 1278 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 1: first ballot, but then you skip him again on the 1279 01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:01,320 Speaker 1: second just to prove upon and make the guy go 1280 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,160 Speaker 1: in on the third ballot. No matter what you think, 1281 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 1: I think T is one of the three greatest receivers 1282 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:13,080 Speaker 1: ever played. I think it's Jered Jared. Now you can 1283 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 1: flip I think you can flip t O and and Randy. 1284 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,479 Speaker 1: I think it's universal regarding Jerry. 1285 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 4: Is it Jerry? 1286 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:19,480 Speaker 1: Is it? 1287 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 4: From me? Jerry's it? 1288 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,040 Speaker 1: Some people like Randy? But I think you can say, 1289 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 1: but even if you're not, like oh Joe and I, 1290 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,960 Speaker 1: Ko is not getting out of the top five of 1291 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,280 Speaker 1: receivers to ever play this game. He's just not. 1292 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 4: So with that being said, if that's not first ballot, 1293 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 4: I don't know what is. 1294 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I don't think d T. I don't 1295 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 1: think did DT goin in the first ballot. I don't 1296 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 1: think d T win in on the first ballot. 1297 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 4: Come on, bro, did. 1298 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,120 Speaker 1: Anybody did anybody watch DT from nineteen eighty nine to 1299 01:06:56,360 --> 01:07:01,120 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine? Did anybody watch those eleven years? I 1300 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,479 Speaker 1: got to see it. I'm close and personal. From ninety 1301 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 1: to ninety nine. Yeah, man, they got your boy. They 1302 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:12,920 Speaker 1: got me a nominee this year. 1303 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 4: Think about oh Joe, Yeah, D had to go five times. 1304 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:20,360 Speaker 5: Before you got out. 1305 01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 1: Anybody that played, anybody that played against DT, ask them. 1306 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 4: That first step. They need to stop. But see, this 1307 01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,960 Speaker 4: is what you get because you know what happens, O Yoe. 1308 01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 1: Once once you let them, Once they get away with 1309 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,080 Speaker 1: keeping certain people out. They feel like that's a lot 1310 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 1: of power, O Joe. Yeah, that's a lot of power, Joe. 1311 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:47,680 Speaker 1: And you know how you take it. 1312 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,440 Speaker 5: You know how you take your power back? Hey Joe, 1313 01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:52,400 Speaker 5: you know how you take your power? 1314 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 4: You take back You create your own say effort. 1315 01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 3: You create your own Shoot, Hey, I got I got 1316 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 3: me a fourteen carrot gold bus. Yeah, Joe, you create, 1317 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:10,000 Speaker 3: You create your own bus, You create your own jacket ship. 1318 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:17,680 Speaker 5: What y'all talking about? Oh man, what you're going to get? 1319 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 1: Uh? 1320 01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:22,360 Speaker 4: That's crazy, man. 1321 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,280 Speaker 5: Hey, hold on, let me show let me show you mine. 1322 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,519 Speaker 1: Hold on, I don't know who gonna get this, the kids. 1323 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,479 Speaker 1: Then I might have to have the kids say or 1324 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,240 Speaker 1: this because boyd look at because the only one of them, Joe, 1325 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:39,720 Speaker 1: the only one, you know, I got the part that 1326 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,480 Speaker 1: I got. Got to keep that part they got. Dat 1327 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 1: you up, Joe, what you got? 1328 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 5: Hold on? 1329 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,599 Speaker 3: Hey, hey, it's in the showcase too. It's too heavy 1330 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 3: to bring out. I got a fourteen carrot gold bus 1331 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,000 Speaker 3: like that, but it's in the showcase. I can't carry the. 1332 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 5: Whole thing, do you. Yeah, boy I don't. 1333 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,840 Speaker 3: Hey, Joe, I don't play. I'm not I'm not listen 1334 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:03,680 Speaker 3: them people ain't letting me in. So I had to 1335 01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,800 Speaker 3: go make my own. No you laughing, while you laughing, 1336 01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:07,720 Speaker 3: I'm joining my plan. 1337 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 5: I'm fourteen Carrigo bus. When they do my game room, 1338 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,680 Speaker 5: you know, they doing my game room for me, right? 1339 01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1340 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,320 Speaker 5: So by the time we get to like sometime after 1341 01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:20,000 Speaker 5: valence timee's yeah, they doing because you told me, you 1342 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:21,479 Speaker 5: told me my parents. 1343 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 1: Nah, I minus so. So the duck sixty five hundred 1344 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:27,720 Speaker 1: from the game room, shoot that. 1345 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:28,120 Speaker 4: Over to me. 1346 01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:31,000 Speaker 5: Wait, wait, you said it was fifty nine. 1347 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:31,479 Speaker 1: How do you get. 1348 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,439 Speaker 4: Gotta be some insh, I gotta be three years hey, 1349 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 4: but but. 1350 01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,439 Speaker 5: No, this is for the show though, I need. I 1351 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,600 Speaker 5: need the presentation when we get on. I needed to 1352 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,760 Speaker 5: look good. Yes, so, but the bus, the bus is 1353 01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:46,120 Speaker 5: gonna be. 1354 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 3: In the background with with uh, with all our awards 1355 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,160 Speaker 3: and the nightcap. My nightcap sign is gonna be on, 1356 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,840 Speaker 3: like Joe. The whole thing gonna look real nice, Joe. 1357 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, the chap. We really appreciate if you cut that 1358 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 4: nightcap sign on. 1359 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 5: Hold on, let me see if it works. 1360 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:14,559 Speaker 4: It's too bright, can see I ain't bad. It's distorted though, 1361 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:19,320 Speaker 4: huh yeah, yeah, I think because it's so far away 1362 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:22,000 Speaker 4: it's distorted. 1363 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:28,439 Speaker 1: So also Eli, man, we're gonna talk about Eli later. 1364 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:33,000 Speaker 1: Were gonna talk about now, okay, Uh, here's the Amando 1365 01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,640 Speaker 1: uh Armando Salgarol, one of the Yes voters, claims there 1366 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,400 Speaker 1: were voters in the room who voiced their concerns about 1367 01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 1: Spygate before voting. Along with reinforcing the importance of voting process, 1368 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,040 Speaker 1: the Hall released the statement stress and actions will be 1369 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,519 Speaker 1: taken if one or multiple voters committed a violation of 1370 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,760 Speaker 1: the selection process. The Hall did not mention Belichick by 1371 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,800 Speaker 1: name or identify the selection process by laws may have 1372 01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,439 Speaker 1: been broken. One violation for would be an example would 1373 01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,880 Speaker 1: be making a decision on a candidate based on non 1374 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:03,920 Speaker 1: football reasons. 1375 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,800 Speaker 4: That does not, however, include spygate. 1376 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:13,479 Speaker 1: Gregorian of the Kansas City Vahi Gregorian, I guess that's 1377 01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:14,000 Speaker 1: how you said that. 1378 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:15,160 Speaker 4: I apologized. I know. 1379 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:19,240 Speaker 1: Gregoria, KA Kansas City Star became the first voter to 1380 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:24,000 Speaker 1: outright confirm he voted against Belichick. He explained that he 1381 01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 1: didn't vote against Belichick and Craft so much as the 1382 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,919 Speaker 1: other three seniors players enshrinment. 1383 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:35,240 Speaker 4: Who is that Anderson? Who I know? Roger Craig and 1384 01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 4: else Greenwood. I don't know who Anderson is. 1385 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,120 Speaker 1: Gregorian said he believed all five of the candidates were deserving, 1386 01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,320 Speaker 1: but was concerned that the three players would have him 1387 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,599 Speaker 1: have to wait much longer than Belichick like many other 1388 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:51,840 Speaker 1: senior candidates. Well, people say they wanted to put his 1389 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:56,160 Speaker 1: name to it. I believe Elsie Greenwood. Look, el Sie 1390 01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:01,080 Speaker 1: Greenwood was not as heralded as min Joe Green Jack 1391 01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:07,360 Speaker 1: Lambert Jack Ham Mail Blunt. But go back and look 1392 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,559 Speaker 1: at those d that's steel Curry's defense and look at 1393 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 1: the guy with the high top yellow shoes. Oh, Joe, 1394 01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:18,400 Speaker 1: go back and look now. Yeah, I'm old enough to 1395 01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:24,400 Speaker 1: remember Elsie Greenwood. I remember those talents every Super Bowl 1396 01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,840 Speaker 1: they won, especially in the late like seventy six, seventy seven, 1397 01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:28,960 Speaker 1: seventy eight, seventy nine. 1398 01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, Elsie was. 1399 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,280 Speaker 1: What what he. 1400 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,400 Speaker 4: I mean they got I mean, think about it. 1401 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:43,599 Speaker 1: They got Joe green Hall of Fame, Ham Lambert, Hall 1402 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:47,000 Speaker 1: of Fame, Mail Blunt, Hall of Fame, Donnie Schell hall 1403 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,439 Speaker 1: of Fame. So you got five Hall of famers right there, 1404 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,960 Speaker 1: and you got else. You had Andy Russell, who was 1405 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,400 Speaker 1: a perennial All Pro and Pro Bowl player. Else Greenwood 1406 01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 1: was a Pro Bowl player. So it's not very many 1407 01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,639 Speaker 1: times that you got seven All Pros and Pro Bowl 1408 01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,240 Speaker 1: players on the defense at a given time. And you're 1409 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,040 Speaker 1: definitely not gonna have five Hall of famers in their 1410 01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,800 Speaker 1: prime together. Now, you might have a Hall of Famer 1411 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,920 Speaker 1: come later in his career, but they were all drafted 1412 01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:17,759 Speaker 1: to the Steelers. The Steelers drafted five Hall of famers 1413 01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,840 Speaker 1: in seventy four, Well, they drafted four. Donnachelle was an 1414 01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:26,560 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent, Lyn Swan, Jack Lambert, John Stalworth, and 1415 01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:31,160 Speaker 1: Mike Webster their first four picks on Ohoe in the 1416 01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:35,439 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and then Donnichelle was an undrafted free agent, 1417 01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,240 Speaker 1: the fifth player, so one draft. 1418 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:38,880 Speaker 4: Class on the team. 1419 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 1: I think we got five of our ninety draft class 1420 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,559 Speaker 1: on Shoe two hundred and fifty forty players. They got 1421 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:52,360 Speaker 1: five of their first twelve, thirteen, fourteen picks. Wow, you 1422 01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:59,719 Speaker 1: ain't gonna ever see that again. Bill Nonne Radio Raheem. 1423 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:03,920 Speaker 1: That's his dad with Bill Nunn. He was the guy 1424 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:05,960 Speaker 1: that scouted yes for the Fitzburgh Steelers. 1425 01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:08,760 Speaker 5: Oh, that's dope.