Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are, well here, some
Speaker 1: of us are inside the SWBC podcast studio. It's eleven thirty,
Speaker 1: a little after eleven thirty on a Thursday, and that
Speaker 1: means it's time for Mick Shots featuring Mickey Spagnola and
Speaker 1: who and Mickey Slason's missing. No, no, no, Mickey is
Speaker 1: somewhere falling down a ski slope right now. He is right.
Speaker 1: That's right. You got Bill Jones, you got Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and that is all you need. Who Who would schedule
Speaker 1: a ski trip this week of all weeks leading up
Speaker 1: to the start of the NFL's new league years, melted?
Speaker 1: I hope you know sounds like going down a ski slow,
Speaker 1: That's exactly that's right. And he was already complaining about
Speaker 1: it last week before he left. Because spring break week
Speaker 1: so the same time, all the spring breaks. So well,
Speaker 1: the good news is we don't have to deal with
Speaker 1: Mickey this week that those things much. That's exactly right.
Speaker 1: That's right. And so we are here for pretty much
Speaker 1: the next hour to talk about all things that are happening,
Speaker 1: and so much has already happened, and so much is
Speaker 1: about to happen. Uh. And Everson came in here and
Speaker 1: he has actually done his homework homework, combine homework and UH.
Speaker 1: And if you could pick a position group that Everson
Speaker 1: Walls might have studied or during the combine, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: You wouldn't guess this position. You would not guess this position.
Speaker 1: I would have immediately said, you you're checking out those cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: They're even the safeties. Well I didn't say that. I
Speaker 1: did not, Okay, okay, but still you know I had
Speaker 1: to hear him to do other things. You're excited about.
Speaker 1: Offensive lineman, I am man, Come on, Dad need some
Speaker 1: protection and I want to keep Zeke around. See what
Speaker 1: we can do. I love it when he's got a
Speaker 1: full head of steam. Nobody's in front of him. That
Speaker 1: line has to open up, that whole boone. He's hurting somebody.
Speaker 1: That still happens. They can talk on the trash they want.
Speaker 1: That still happens with Zeke Elliott. All right, so that's
Speaker 1: something we're going to dive into a little bit later here.
Speaker 1: Let's get into um, how about we get into things
Speaker 1: that are pertinent as far as this team is right
Speaker 1: now and what's been going on in the last couple
Speaker 1: of days around the league. Which would you'd like to
Speaker 1: hit first? Would you like to go with the musical
Speaker 1: chairs of the quarterbacks around the league or would you
Speaker 1: like to go with what the Cowboys are contemplating doing
Speaker 1: getting ready for the start of free agency next week?
Speaker 1: I want to speak on the musical chairs, All right,
Speaker 1: let's do that. Where is Russell Wilson gonna get some
Speaker 1: offensive line? Help you tell me that right now? I mean,
Speaker 1: I know he's he's a NFL darling. I know he's
Speaker 1: amazing because he wasn't getting it in Seattle he was,
Speaker 1: and he's not gonna get it in Denver because first
Speaker 1: of all, they gave up all the fixed didn't to
Speaker 1: get him. So it is free agency on the market,
Speaker 1: you know, is it looming for divid Who else do
Speaker 1: they have who they gonna give up for a good
Speaker 1: free agent? Maybe more than one on that offensive line?
Speaker 1: He still can't see over them. Problem he's got to
Speaker 1: move anyway. So that's what it is. That's that's what
Speaker 1: they decided in Seattle. He didn't need offensive linement because
Speaker 1: he could just create space. And that dad got him
Speaker 1: in a lot of trouble. Next day, you know, Metcalf,
Speaker 1: doesn't he disappeared and and come on, how's he going
Speaker 1: to disappear? Because he never had time to throw the
Speaker 1: ball well, and then uh, he needs a run game
Speaker 1: and he had he had a run game with Marshawn
Speaker 1: there when they were going to Super Bowls. Now, I'd
Speaker 1: like what Denver's got that second round pick last year,
Speaker 1: Williams that I like him a lot, yes, yes, from
Speaker 1: last year's draft. But maybe they just need one then
Speaker 1: maybe they could just get I don't know if Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon's still under contract with them or not, but anyway,
Speaker 1: Um so, Russell Wilson goes from Seattle to Denver, Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers staying in Green Bay. Such trauma, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: and never thought it would have happened. And Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: is now back. You gotta see this guy again, man,
Speaker 1: We gotta see him again. We have to see him again.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, you know, I guess I'm just an
Speaker 1: optimistic person. You know, nobody ever thought I would make it.
Speaker 1: So I always give someone as much as I can,
Speaker 1: I give a benefit of the doubt. I can never
Speaker 1: I never want to tell a person they can't do something.
Speaker 1: And so that's why I'm always holding out whole Bocsson
Speaker 1: wins because you always have to say that about him.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't give up on him, even though
Speaker 1: it seems like you should when all signs point that way,
Speaker 1: because you look at his numbers, like his stats from
Speaker 1: last year and it was twenty seven touchdown, seven picks.
Speaker 1: He had lowered his interceptions. You know, at one point
Speaker 1: everyone was raving about him one thing, because they were
Speaker 1: making the moves towards the end of the season, they
Speaker 1: were launching slowly upwards towards the playoffs. But what they
Speaker 1: remember is what they at last Well, that's what the
Speaker 1: hell counts. I mean, it's not like they're picking on it.
Speaker 1: What did you do last man? Other failure? I mean, geez,
Speaker 1: when you got an opportunity to just beat the worst
Speaker 1: team in the league, Jacksonville, to make the playoffs, and
Speaker 1: that's one bit, that bit, that's one. It was another one, well,
Speaker 1: I think it was like two games. It was too gay.
Speaker 1: But but but the last thing that was the Jackson
Speaker 1: that was just that was the cherry on top of
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. Right, yeah, So did you see
Speaker 1: what Trayvon tweeted yesterday afternoon? I did not. It was
Speaker 1: a little smiley emoji. Okay, all right, he might be
Speaker 1: a little introverted, but something's coming out and when he posts,
Speaker 1: that's when the extrovert comes out, right, uh huh yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: I don't know that it had anything to do with
Speaker 1: the news of the day that Carson went going to
Speaker 1: Washing don't start that tweet. It was like, right, you goes.
Speaker 1: It was I think we looked at it. It It was
Speaker 1: like two twenty three pm. When you walk up from
Speaker 1: his nap. He checked his Twitter. It's all whoa hey
Speaker 1: man wins to Washington? You know, you know, Aidan keeps
Speaker 1: him on his toes. Man Aiden keeps him on his toes.
Speaker 1: And so I was looked up how Trayvon has done
Speaker 1: against Carson Wentz when they played against each other, and
Speaker 1: so a couple of years ago, when Wentz was still
Speaker 1: with the Eagles, how many picks did Trayvon have against him? Two,
Speaker 1: he had two picks two two picks against two of
Speaker 1: his three picks his rookie year game against Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: It's just a coincidence. Yeah sure. Now that was a
Speaker 1: game though that Carson Wentzon. The Eagles won because the
Speaker 1: Cowboys started being to Nucci at quarterback then game so
Speaker 1: so so. Actually that game, Carson got the the last
Speaker 1: smiling emoji of that game. Anyway, But look at the
Speaker 1: NFC East. Now you got the dak at quarterback in Dallas,
Speaker 1: you got Carson Wentz, commander's quarterback in Washington. Okay, what's
Speaker 1: New York gonna get? You got Daniel Jones and then
Speaker 1: whatever they decide to do. Your risky is being rumored there,
Speaker 1: and you got Jalen and Philly. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: care what the Giants do. They need an entire team.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just be real. They need and just
Speaker 1: like anybody else, they need to start in the trenches
Speaker 1: because that's where Daniel Jones. He's okay, but he's not
Speaker 1: as bad as he's playing. He's just not. He's got
Speaker 1: more ability than that when you give him time, like
Speaker 1: anybody else. You know, he hadn't had the time yet
Speaker 1: from being so young to be able to know how
Speaker 1: to thrive under that kind of pressure. You know, he
Speaker 1: hadn't he hadn't been successful at it yet because he
Speaker 1: hadn't had the tools to do that. I mean surrounding him.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily mean yes, physically around and you know
Speaker 1: we've said for a couple of years, I mean, tell
Speaker 1: you what you want about Joe Judge whatever, and and
Speaker 1: and Jason Garrett is the offensive coordinator there. They weren't
Speaker 1: going to do anything offensively until a short up there
Speaker 1: Jason left. What the heck happened? What happened when Garrett left? Uh?
Speaker 1: Same same over think it got worse? Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it got worse. Yeah. So um, but the Cowboys that
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about things in their own division, when
Speaker 1: when don't they? I mean, this is that's not what
Speaker 1: we're worried about. You know, that's not what we're worried about. Matter.
Speaker 1: In fact, I wish we'd get challenged a little more
Speaker 1: so when we get to the playoffs, we don't start
Speaker 1: stinking up to join. That would be nice B B
Speaker 1: playoff battle, you know battle already, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And I don't know what we challenged enough even when
Speaker 1: we played the teams that were outside of by division,
Speaker 1: they weren't necessarily winning teams themselves. High point moment, Tell
Speaker 1: me the high point moment for the season last year?
Speaker 1: Give me, give me the best moment. When did When
Speaker 1: did we When did we peak? When did we peak?
Speaker 1: It's so hard to get San Francisco out of your mind? Best,
Speaker 1: So let's let's go back a little bitfore. When when
Speaker 1: did we peak? Bro? New England? There you go, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. That was the best moment ever? And
Speaker 1: that was it? All right? Yeah, we thought we were ready,
Speaker 1: little did we know? Ye? Well, in the last player
Speaker 1: of the game. What happened on the last play of
Speaker 1: the game? Yeah, yeah, da to see? Yeah? And what
Speaker 1: else happened on that play? What happened right? Yeah? What
Speaker 1: happened right after that? Didn't you see? Did you see
Speaker 1: Dak hobbling off the field? So things weren't the same
Speaker 1: after that? You think it infected it? You think so?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean saying, because he never really
Speaker 1: ran much after you know what I mean. It's almost
Speaker 1: like you have to force him to run. Seems sometimes
Speaker 1: I think that would really help him if he would
Speaker 1: become and I don't mean once again trying to knock
Speaker 1: people over and stay up. I mean if he were
Speaker 1: to be very strategic on stop holding the ball and
Speaker 1: giving his receivers a chance, because he wants to reward
Speaker 1: his receivers. But also he loved that passing percentage, right,
Speaker 1: he admitted that once. Already that's that's just where it is.
Speaker 1: But I think he could he should also give him
Speaker 1: the team a better chance sometimes by just taking four
Speaker 1: or five yards. Man. And hey, it doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be exciting to be effective. You know, we no excitement
Speaker 1: and we have too much of it already. I want
Speaker 1: that kind of excitement to whether it's in our favor. Okay,
Speaker 1: So and so, now what does Seattle do at quarterback?
Speaker 1: They didn't gino he's free agent? Is he he's free
Speaker 1: agent because they acquired Drew Locke in that trade? Okay? Okay,
Speaker 1: and what does that say? Well, he's he's on the team.
Speaker 1: I don't even what has he is he relevant? Has
Speaker 1: he been relevant? All Right? The other thing that Seattle did,
Speaker 1: oviously not you're not saying, yeah, you think the other
Speaker 1: thing Seattle did was they released Bobby Wagner. Yes, I
Speaker 1: was looking at that I really was looking at that.
Speaker 1: I thought that would be very interesting. That would be
Speaker 1: really really interesting, any connection through coaches? Dan Quinn al
Speaker 1: right there you go. Oh we know what? Then come on,
Speaker 1: we gotta how much money you got called? Not how
Speaker 1: much of somebody else? How'm with you me? You want
Speaker 1: to bet somebody else? Did you see who? I really
Speaker 1: say who? The next talks the Cowboys probably connected to
Speaker 1: who is that? Chris be Brandon Collins? Landon Collins? You
Speaker 1: got released in the division? Well, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: a Spagnola numbers man, but can't we just give them
Speaker 1: some like one year deals? You know how they do it?
Speaker 1: One year deal. Just prove, prove yourself for one year
Speaker 1: and we'll see what's up after that. You impress us,
Speaker 1: and that's something that's the possibility. Yeah, under our cap
Speaker 1: you know, you got to sign your own guys right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have enough, that's true. So now, okay, considering that
Speaker 1: Dak has uh just in a joking way following on
Speaker 1: the sword contract wise, Hey we're structuring, uh, Zach Mardin
Speaker 1: we structuring, right? Am? I correct in hearing that? And
Speaker 1: that was what the way those those contracts were structured
Speaker 1: to begin with, it would be to give cap relief
Speaker 1: in years like this. Well, so it's not like so
Speaker 1: it's not like they they're taking pay cuts or anything.
Speaker 1: I understand that. But are they all like that? No? Not,
Speaker 1: not all of them are like that. But the ones
Speaker 1: that you want to keep for a long time. Uh
Speaker 1: And Lawrence law Well, Lawrences is one that gets kind
Speaker 1: of a tweeter. It sounds like yeah because Amar's was not.
Speaker 1: Amaris is one that that they can go ahead and
Speaker 1: what's been talked about coming back to that, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: are going to come back. I want to know, did
Speaker 1: d law express some type of resinsence and restructuring now
Speaker 1: hit now his would be there has been The reports
Speaker 1: are that he politely declined a PA politely. Yeah, makes
Speaker 1: a difference. But they don't have ever something. They don't
Speaker 1: have to ask the player to restructure. It's in their contract.
Speaker 1: They can just do it automatically, okay. And to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, most of the time, what it is,
Speaker 1: it's like a it's a bonus. So they just give
Speaker 1: them a bonus and they spread it out over a
Speaker 1: few years. What what what was the deal? Then? Why
Speaker 1: why come out and be so polite well, now DeMarcus
Speaker 1: is what they're what that's a different okay, not oh wow,
Speaker 1: wait wait wait what injuries? What they trying to say? Well,
Speaker 1: because right now he is set to count twenty seven
Speaker 1: million dollars against the cap. Okay, and so they're trying
Speaker 1: to get relief there and they if I don't have
Speaker 1: the numbers in front of me right now, but if
Speaker 1: it's if he was a pre here's the way they
Speaker 1: sell it to de Marcus. Okay, okay, he's got to
Speaker 1: figure out at his age what his market would be
Speaker 1: out there. What do you see? What? Let me as
Speaker 1: you continue fourteen direct Pigs, it's going into his ninth
Speaker 1: year in the league, so let's see thirty yeah, um,
Speaker 1: all right, so right now he's twenty. Came out boys,
Speaker 1: he'll be he'll be thirty April twenty eight. That's right.
Speaker 1: I did an interview with him just last month. We
Speaker 1: talked about his milestone birthday coming up in April. All right,
Speaker 1: So right now, if he was a June first cut, yes,
Speaker 1: they would save it's eight million, he would count. Let
Speaker 1: me call it up. I don't want to get it
Speaker 1: wrong here, all right? The way they yeah, I just
Speaker 1: need to call it up. Well, First of all, eight
Speaker 1: thirty is a good a good age, not even thirty
Speaker 1: is a good age. His cap hit this year is
Speaker 1: twenty seven years, right, and before it would be nineteen.
Speaker 1: So you save eight you save eight. But if you
Speaker 1: were to make him a post June first cut, it
Speaker 1: would be he would he would count eight million against
Speaker 1: the cap and you save nineteen million. So and if
Speaker 1: if you cut him before June first, he would count
Speaker 1: nineteen million, you're saving eight million. Okay. So, but what
Speaker 1: they in selling, and I'm not saying that this is
Speaker 1: exactly what happened, but in selling a okay, he's got
Speaker 1: so in real money that he's got coming this year.
Speaker 1: His base salary in twenty twenty two is nineteen million dollars. Okay.
Speaker 1: Next year it's twenty one million dollars. Okay, So he
Speaker 1: is but just just in terms of this year, okay,
Speaker 1: he is due to make nineteen million dollar dollars a
Speaker 1: certain date okay in June, over the course of the season,
Speaker 1: over the course over the course of the season, that's
Speaker 1: his base salary this year, okay. Okay. And so when
Speaker 1: they are asking him to take a pay cut, now,
Speaker 1: they and they could rework the contract where he gets
Speaker 1: more life on the end of it. Whatever. Okay, so
Speaker 1: he's got a way. Do I want to stay here
Speaker 1: in or is my market? Can I make nineteen million
Speaker 1: dollars a year or someplace else? Interesting? Okay? Interesting? You know, thirty,
Speaker 1: I'm a home But now they think differently. Everyone's moving.
Speaker 1: You know what the Marcus's mindset is. He can play. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: he just turned thirty. He's just about turned thirty. And
Speaker 1: I don't blame him. He's a proud guy that I
Speaker 1: had a damn good year at thirty years, that's right.
Speaker 1: And then the way he played well and the way
Speaker 1: he played after coming back from his injury at the
Speaker 1: end of the year last year, you know, came through. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I mean you're playing on how much does he
Speaker 1: does he want to retire as a cowboy? You know?
Speaker 1: Does he? I don't think there's any of that anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe with quarterbacks, but that's just not a
Speaker 1: thing anymore. That's that has been a thing for a
Speaker 1: long long time. Coaches, players, gems, it doesn't matter. Everybody's
Speaker 1: for sale, and rightfully so, I mean that's why I
Speaker 1: held out. You know, we kind of started. This whole
Speaker 1: thing is we have to use all the tricks and
Speaker 1: loopholes we can use to get as much as we can,
Speaker 1: because you always find out, I don't care if it's
Speaker 1: your mom tells you, your dad tells you, they're working
Speaker 1: for a corporation. They don't care about you, period. That's
Speaker 1: what That's just what you know. As much as we
Speaker 1: enjoy ourselves, that's still the bottom line, we don't dwell
Speaker 1: on it, but we just know if this decision has
Speaker 1: to be made, we know what decision they're gonna make well,
Speaker 1: and so sure what they would probably like to do
Speaker 1: is figure their figure out a way to keep DeMarcus
Speaker 1: and be able to sign Randy Gregory. And so that's
Speaker 1: the other thing that plays on the other side, is
Speaker 1: at even just at that position, can they convince DeMarcus
Speaker 1: to to understand that he needs to retire as a cowboy?
Speaker 1: Can they or convince him that you can make as
Speaker 1: much money here as what you would make elsewhere? Same thing,
Speaker 1: you know, same thing, right, Yeah, yeah, convincing however you
Speaker 1: can So can you know if they can do that,
Speaker 1: that's a tough one. That's well, you know, they and
Speaker 1: and it all has a lot to do with the
Speaker 1: success of this team. Bill, And that's the thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have another year like last year, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to You're gonna have to get buckets to bail out
Speaker 1: all the stuff from this this boat. So that's what
Speaker 1: you have to think about. How what is the success
Speaker 1: That's what he's going to do a long What kind
Speaker 1: of chance can I have going somewhere else and get
Speaker 1: at least go to this You know, it's interesting because
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he's a Hall of Fame player
Speaker 1: like de Marcus Ware will eventually be in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, But the Cowboys went through this same thing
Speaker 1: in a way with de Marcus Ware when he went
Speaker 1: to Denver. And and that was and in fact, it
Speaker 1: was the same year that Marcus Lawrence was drafted. Okay,
Speaker 1: it would have been. It would have been about basically
Speaker 1: a month before DeMarcus Lawrence was drafted in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys right up and it was I remember, in fact,
Speaker 1: I remember it's distinctly because my wife and sister in
Speaker 1: law were at a restaurant and De Marcus Ware the
Speaker 1: night before free agency started, and DeMarcus Ware was in
Speaker 1: that same restaurant. Will you remember? I do remember? Okay,
Speaker 1: it was delf Frisco and and he and so there
Speaker 1: and I wasn't there. They're texting me saying, hey, DeMarcus
Speaker 1: wears here, like okay, I'll be there to say because
Speaker 1: from a news stand, boy, you know, what were you wearing?
Speaker 1: What were you wearing when you I didn't, I didn't
Speaker 1: make it up, okay, but what you didn't ask the
Speaker 1: question what were you wearing? I was at the house.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was wearing shorts about you were
Speaker 1: going to come up there? You know, yeah, yeah ready
Speaker 1: for wow. I could be doing any of you right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but anyway, just happened to have. They're telling he's on
Speaker 1: the phone. He's sir, sure is on the phone a lot.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, that's because this is a very
Speaker 1: big night in its life right down, That's right. So anyway,
Speaker 1: so DeMarcus wear gets let go the next day and
Speaker 1: then he signs with the Denver Broncos. And what happens
Speaker 1: in Denver He gets a Super Bowl. So that's not
Speaker 1: good for you know, basic for the DeMarcus go exactly.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't point that out to law if
Speaker 1: he doesn't really know it now if we want to
Speaker 1: keep him, if we want to keep him. Yeah, So anyway, okay,
Speaker 1: we're uh we dive into well, we're going to dive
Speaker 1: into Amari Cooper when we come back about it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to do that when we come back here
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Speaker 1: and I'm saying, I'm on Facebook, Like a look at
Speaker 1: this old guy. I'm like, hey, man, what do you want?
Speaker 1: You know, what do you want? Facebook? Kids used to
Speaker 1: be on Facebook. Yeah, oh yeah, that was ten years ago.
Speaker 1: I remember my youngest daughter when she was a senior
Speaker 1: in high school that that was. This was when moms
Speaker 1: and dad weren't on Facebook. Okay, this is yeah, it
Speaker 1: was about ten years ago, ten or twelve years ago.
Speaker 1: And so go to lunch with my wife and youngest daughter, Jordan,
Speaker 1: and I announced it lunch that I have got on Facebook.
Speaker 1: You should have her face turned ashes, dad, what you
Speaker 1: can't be on Facebook? She would not friend me. Well
Speaker 1: that's the thing because they don't want you to follow
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. So get this to get that. Six months later,
Speaker 1: she goes off to college. Her first day at college,
Speaker 1: would she do? I got a friend request from her
Speaker 1: own face, but she was he was homesid. She wanted
Speaker 1: to be my friend. Yeah, that's good stuff. That's good stuff, Bill, Yeah,
Speaker 1: funny stuff. All right, Amari Cooper and the Cowboys want
Speaker 1: to be friends with Amari still now they don't. Doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like so sad? So sad. And we talked about this,
Speaker 1: that taking the chance right on gallop we didn't think,
Speaker 1: I mean, right, that's a tough decision. But all End
Speaker 1: coming off a cl surgery just last month. Young legs,
Speaker 1: young legs, right, how does he twenties six? Ye, that's
Speaker 1: young legs still still ready still and he was always
Speaker 1: extremely athletic. Yeah, I mean just I'm just stated how
Speaker 1: athletic some of the moves has got made. I've never
Speaker 1: seen people do that before in my life. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I have a feeling he'll be okay, but that still okay.
Speaker 1: So with Cooper and bring everyone up to speed. They
Speaker 1: haven't done anything yet with Cooper, and really it's the
Speaker 1: fifth day of the league years when his contract would
Speaker 1: become guaranteed, and so they have to do something by
Speaker 1: that by that time if they're going to do something.
Speaker 1: There are reports out there that they are entertaining some
Speaker 1: trade offers whatever. But if you cut him or trade
Speaker 1: him his deal iss, he counts twenty two million against
Speaker 1: the cap right now, and if you cut him or
Speaker 1: trade him before June first, it would be a six
Speaker 1: million dollar cap hit and you save sixteen million a
Speaker 1: post June first cut. If you designate him as a
Speaker 1: post June first, he only counts two million against the
Speaker 1: captain twenty You save twenty million. Yeah. So but it's
Speaker 1: even more so than on the law one. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. Um So anyway, Uh, we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 1: But so what about no possibility of of I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just dreaming, right, I'm that I'm that that
Speaker 1: fan that's always hoping for the hopeless. No fan, no,
Speaker 1: no chance we keep them both right, No, thanks for
Speaker 1: putting there. They've been taking that meal. Thanks? Yeah, all right, So,
Speaker 1: and of course you got to get a deal done
Speaker 1: with Michael Gallup, who is a free agent to be
Speaker 1: and there supposedly they were making strides in that direction, uh,
Speaker 1: to combine last week and so, and we're talking neighborhood
Speaker 1: of upwards of ten million dollars a year on Gallops deal.
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna pay these guys on the money,
Speaker 1: what do the Cowboys need at wide receiver? Basically consistency,
Speaker 1: but I mean personnel? What are they? Okay, let's say
Speaker 1: Cooper's gone. Now what do you need at wide receiver
Speaker 1: in order to have this offense function the way Cedric
Speaker 1: Wilson is a free agent? Okay, he's gonna get some
Speaker 1: decent money out there. All right, Let's say you got
Speaker 1: Lamb and you do the deal with Gallup. Now, Gallup
Speaker 1: is likely coming off an ACL. I'll just speculate that
Speaker 1: he might start the year on pub as we've talked
Speaker 1: to miss the first six weeks of the season. So
Speaker 1: now you've got you you did, uh, you did resign
Speaker 1: Noah Brown, and you've got they did they did, said man.
Speaker 1: And out of last year's draft, you got Ceme p
Speaker 1: Hoko as another wide receiver. Bet Brown come back. I
Speaker 1: bet I'll bet Brown comes back even smaller than he
Speaker 1: was last year. Okay, I think he would get even
Speaker 1: hopefully better shape in the sas not saying he was
Speaker 1: out of shape. I mean I think he's going to
Speaker 1: continue with this the transformation that he's he's trying to make.
Speaker 1: I think he realizes he can he can really move better,
Speaker 1: uh and do better for us. I think part of
Speaker 1: it was deciding, Okay, is he a wide receiver or
Speaker 1: is he more of a tight end tight Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know h type almost and and you could see, you know,
Speaker 1: the way it was used in Jason Garrett's offense was
Speaker 1: you know, in that in that manner, right, in that manner, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but now when now he's pretty consistent, He was pretty
Speaker 1: consistent at the wide receive a spot. You could see
Speaker 1: uh some some some promise. I didn't see him really
Speaker 1: just stinking up to joint, like, uh, I hate to
Speaker 1: be getting down on my buddy, Cedric man. I was
Speaker 1: so And it's like they said, you have to have
Speaker 1: players that you can count on in the most extreme situations.
Speaker 1: We know that. I think Gallop is one of those guys.
Speaker 1: We know that CD. I think I think there are
Speaker 1: two of those guys Cooper of course, also the rest
Speaker 1: I really don't have much. I'm talking about in a
Speaker 1: consistent manner when you need them in a consistent and
Speaker 1: as much as we throw the balls, as much as
Speaker 1: we spread it around, there shouldn't be too much of
Speaker 1: a gap between the skill level of our receivers. Now,
Speaker 1: playmaking in the clutch is another thing, Bill, but I
Speaker 1: mean just a physical ability making plays. You know, I
Speaker 1: can count on him, him, on him. They shouldn't be
Speaker 1: that far apart. Because we spread it around so much,
Speaker 1: you expect them all to do well, and when they don't,
Speaker 1: we lose our timing, which is what started happening to playoffs,
Speaker 1: along with all the other variety of things lamb and
Speaker 1: all that. But you're still if you're that guy, like
Speaker 1: like spac said, that's why he's a backup you have.
Speaker 1: You don't have that choice. You don't have that choice
Speaker 1: when you are spreading the ball around so much. You
Speaker 1: don't have a choice to play like a back home.
Speaker 1: You don't have a choice. So it's how concerned are
Speaker 1: you losing? Amari Cooper? I'm very concerned because it's tough
Speaker 1: with him being here here. Here's what I like about
Speaker 1: from a when you're managing a salary cap, a whole
Speaker 1: team salary cap, A Cooper is making so much money, okay,
Speaker 1: and then CD is going to be in that range
Speaker 1: here in a couple of years, and he was first
Speaker 1: rounding rookie money right now, Now, Gallop, you're signing him
Speaker 1: to what is a nice number two receiver salary. He's
Speaker 1: in the position with CD is going to be right
Speaker 1: if your number one receiver is in the eighteen to
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars range. And once you know he's got
Speaker 1: gets a second contract, well, Gallop, you're you pencil him in.
Speaker 1: He's in the second receiver slot, high price, second receiver
Speaker 1: slot whatever. Right. Basically, it's almost like, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: it's almost like the wide receiver position has become like
Speaker 1: the running back in that you have to if you
Speaker 1: got a Cooper Cup who produces at the level that
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup does, Okay, then okay, twenty million dollars fine, okay,
Speaker 1: because he's moving the chains on third down, he's productive,
Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns, he d fifty catches a year or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, and so you have to keep You
Speaker 1: have to keep them coming in out of the draft.
Speaker 1: Every couple of years, you got to draft one of them.
Speaker 1: And so the Cowboys are in a position now they
Speaker 1: let Cooper go CD moves into the number one slot,
Speaker 1: gallops in the second slot. You draft one, I mean,
Speaker 1: and now you can draft one in the first, second,
Speaker 1: third round. You can draft what But there's another the
Speaker 1: wide receiver. There are wide receivers out there, and it's
Speaker 1: been proven now here in the last few years that
Speaker 1: wide receivers can come into the league and actually can
Speaker 1: tru at right off the bat their rookie year too.
Speaker 1: Ye see these shows them, yeah, right, And so I
Speaker 1: mean it's Chase Chase with the other Beagle things, sure,
Speaker 1: Jefferson with Minnesota. I mean, the list goes on and on, guys,
Speaker 1: and so, uh, you just gotta keep it, keep rotating it,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think with with Cooper, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at where how he came in and
Speaker 1: just changed everything for us, you know. And I know
Speaker 1: reminiscing is not You're not allowed to reminisce in the NFL.
Speaker 1: That's just it's not feasible. And so everything that he
Speaker 1: was doing for us back then changed everything, But I
Speaker 1: thought the consistency remained the only thing I see about
Speaker 1: our cowboy receivers. And it's just like we always attacked
Speaker 1: people when I was with the Giants. When someone gets
Speaker 1: up in your face, then you better win. You gotta win.
Speaker 1: And uh, I never really isolated on what the because
Speaker 1: first of all, zach Dak was always pretty much surrounded
Speaker 1: by lineman by the time they've finished their routes. Our
Speaker 1: offensive system, you must have time to run your route
Speaker 1: in order for it to be successful, So it's imperative
Speaker 1: that the protection is there, otherwise your timing is off.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean you know you can remit it easily.
Speaker 1: You can't because it's the routes themselves are They're timely,
Speaker 1: you understand, and there's sometimes they can be extensive, and
Speaker 1: you don't have time for that all the time. You
Speaker 1: don't have time for that five move, fifteen year all
Speaker 1: come back, you know what I mean. It looks good
Speaker 1: on seven on seven, we look good at seven or seven,
Speaker 1: but you can't do that if you don't have protection.
Speaker 1: All right, So I don't know where the quote unquote
Speaker 1: blame goes on this, but when you look at Cooper's
Speaker 1: season last year and remind you this as a guy
Speaker 1: that you're committing top top, top receiver dollar two. First
Speaker 1: game of the year against Tampa Bay, he had thirteen
Speaker 1: catches for one hundred and thirty eight yards and two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: His second best game of the year came at Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush was a quarterback. He had eight catches, one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty one yards came to his hands out
Speaker 1: for tip pass. Okay, yeah, so there you're talking twenty
Speaker 1: one catches for what would that be two hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty yards but roughly and three touchdowns, all right. The
Speaker 1: other thirteen games that he played in he had forty
Speaker 1: six catches. He averaged three and a half catches in
Speaker 1: forty six yards a game the other thirteen games. So
Speaker 1: I don't know that production fell off in the other
Speaker 1: thirteen games for whatever reason. First of all, you gotta
Speaker 1: look at tet so was it, Yeah, was it? The
Speaker 1: play calling was at the quarterback, that's right, And you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta figure out the defense changes and they start
Speaker 1: pressing more. You know, because as much as he looks
Speaker 1: slight out there, Mary Cooper is not a slight guy.
Speaker 1: He's around six feet tall. Now that's not huge, but
Speaker 1: that's not a little five ten guy that you're kind
Speaker 1: of beating up out there. And he's got all the
Speaker 1: moves that he can have, but once again, those moves
Speaker 1: take time. Well, the other thing that the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: done with the wide receiver room is they've changed the
Speaker 1: wide receiver coach. Adam Henry's not here now and Robert
Speaker 1: Prince is the new wide receiver's coach. And you know,
Speaker 1: there's a story that was that I've heard. I know
Speaker 1: nothing about this, but the story talked about on some
Speaker 1: talk shows is that there wasn't enough juice coming out
Speaker 1: of that wide receiver room as far as it was chill,
Speaker 1: laid back. Oh well, because they're all so good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, it's not our fault. So is the
Speaker 1: makeup of the wide receiver room? Uh did it need
Speaker 1: to change? I don't know. Well, I mean, if it
Speaker 1: does get more aggressive, that can always be a good thing.
Speaker 1: More aggression is always good, And I'm pretty sure that's
Speaker 1: kind of the approach they're gonna take. Um. Yeah, probably
Speaker 1: have CD and they're lifting more weights. You know, they
Speaker 1: might change the whole attitude of everything he's gonna be running.
Speaker 1: He might start running the ball more. They might put
Speaker 1: him in the backfield a little bit more. So be
Speaker 1: ready for that. If you want to fuss about it,
Speaker 1: you know, you want to be that guy, then we're
Speaker 1: going to follard out there at wide receiver a little bit.
Speaker 1: Tony's not bitching. That's they's not acting cocky. Tony is
Speaker 1: just tony, you know what I mean. So that's the difference.
Speaker 1: I mean. But these guys, if they're gonna be that group,
Speaker 1: then yeah, I'm gonna throw you out there and give
Speaker 1: you all you can handle. And that's what Michael Irvin
Speaker 1: kind of was talking about and a few of the
Speaker 1: other guys. We we can't make everybody happy. In regards
Speaker 1: to spreading around, I think we are the teams that
Speaker 1: you see that do well. They spread it around some,
Speaker 1: but for the most part, you're gonna get your guys
Speaker 1: the ball. You can't treat you can't treat Cedric Wilson
Speaker 1: like you treat CD. You just can't. You CD need
Speaker 1: to get his We need to overthrow them to him
Speaker 1: and he better be. He better get his butt open
Speaker 1: because we're coming at You don't come out of trying
Speaker 1: to be que time. You're trying. Now we're coming at you,
Speaker 1: so you need to be ready. You need to be
Speaker 1: Michael Irving ready. Right. I'm talking about work your butt
Speaker 1: off so much in offseason, just be so thirsty for everything.
Speaker 1: I hope that's what the change is when they change
Speaker 1: the coach, because I mean, yeah, he looks good when
Speaker 1: everything goes well. But man, when I'm looking for you,
Speaker 1: I can't have you missing it. I mean, I'm back
Speaker 1: here getting my butt kicked. If I'm the quarterback, you
Speaker 1: know I'm open over here because they're trying to throw
Speaker 1: to you. If I'm a Marii Cooper, you better cass
Speaker 1: that dog on ball and versa. So that that to me.
Speaker 1: I hope that's the kind of attitude that they they
Speaker 1: they transformed to. And then of course, um the other
Speaker 1: news this week is Dalton Schultz back franchise, got the
Speaker 1: tag and they're working on a long term deal with him. Cool.
Speaker 1: You like that? I do? Yeah, I really do. I
Speaker 1: talked to some former players when we watched the game,
Speaker 1: and they don't They didn't like him. It was a
Speaker 1: couple I'm not gonna say it was. I was kind
Speaker 1: of disappointed. Like, dude, what you wanted to do? I mean,
Speaker 1: and of course doing that game, he started getting off
Speaker 1: and having some play this is this is what he does.
Speaker 1: This is I'm trying to tell him a guy. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the mix, uh, the emotions out there about it.
Speaker 1: I happen to think that when he was bigger, he
Speaker 1: could block his butt off. I don't know when he
Speaker 1: came to have when he came out of Stanford. He
Speaker 1: was his fourth round pick. But the one thing that
Speaker 1: they the book on him was Okay, he can do
Speaker 1: he'll do the little things, he'll do the grunt work.
Speaker 1: You know him in for that because Jarwin was weak
Speaker 1: as well in the blocking situation. And now he says
Speaker 1: he and Jowin must be read the same playbook or something,
Speaker 1: because now that both not not very good at all
Speaker 1: in the blocking situations. So yeah, we're so once again.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can change the change the room with
Speaker 1: strange coaches. Maybe in the tight end room needs to
Speaker 1: be changes too. And strangely and strangely, the Schultz benefits
Speaker 1: perhaps from the Jarwin injury. Of course, with the hip surgery.
Speaker 1: You know, Joan was headed dead. Yeah you got yeah,
Speaker 1: he was headed to free agency and then man, Okay, now,
Speaker 1: Jarwin's got the rare hip surgery and that was my
Speaker 1: guy ability. I knew he could block with the crop,
Speaker 1: but that was my guy man. And even though there's
Speaker 1: tight ends out there, you know he's Schultz has established
Speaker 1: himself the last couple of years, or particularly this year
Speaker 1: with Dak healthy. And then there's a familiarity with your cornerback.
Speaker 1: Both of them, they've been there with him. He knows
Speaker 1: both of them pretty well. The bottom line two is, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of money at ten point nine million
Speaker 1: dollars as a tag, but if you you can get
Speaker 1: relief on that by signing him long term, I mean,
Speaker 1: it'll still be at that average, but you get immediate
Speaker 1: million good tight ends out Yeah, bost and second team,
Speaker 1: everyone has two, and you think both of them are
Speaker 1: really good. Right, So you're right, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: tight ends out there. Yeah, and the Cowboys aren't out
Speaker 1: of the market for another tight end either, so that
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Speaker 1: Shots and Okay, the Cowboys this do you look at
Speaker 1: the timeline going forward next Monday, Next Wednesday is the
Speaker 1: start of the league year. Okay, so that's when contracts
Speaker 1: can become official. The negotiating period starts Monday, and um,
Speaker 1: it's going to be very interesting to see what route
Speaker 1: the Cowboys go. Obviously they do not usually take part
Speaker 1: in a big money free agent signing like a Bobby
Speaker 1: Wagner would probably be Okay, do you think big money?
Speaker 1: You know, he was due sixteen million this year? Was
Speaker 1: his his what his number was? His game been, it's been,
Speaker 1: it's been really good. It's been good. It's still been
Speaker 1: really good. Right, Well, we won't get him, No, we
Speaker 1: won't have that's that's that's okay, that's okay, we'll good,
Speaker 1: we'll good. All right. So then guys that they Cowboys
Speaker 1: should prioritize who are free agents to be Okay, you've
Speaker 1: got nineteen of them out there's now all right, let's
Speaker 1: start on the defensive side of the football. Okay, and
Speaker 1: right at the top would be your leading tackler from
Speaker 1: last year, Jay run Curse. Right, what do you think
Speaker 1: the market's going to be for Jay run Curse, Jay
Speaker 1: Ron Curse. I think he can ask for a really
Speaker 1: really good I wouldn't say elite money, but right under
Speaker 1: that second tier. So what you think about about eight
Speaker 1: to nine a year? So that's out of the Cowboys market,
Speaker 1: I would think so, No, you think so if you're
Speaker 1: if you're paying Gallop and then you're paying yeah, depends
Speaker 1: you do not get him for cheap. No, you cannot
Speaker 1: get him for cheap, not after that year. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, Randy Gregory. Wow, more than that,
Speaker 1: we're talking what all right? Twelve, well, fifteen? You got Gregory? Uh,
Speaker 1: I mean we got Dak money, we got we got
Speaker 1: Zack Martin money. We'll be okay, Randy Gregory, j Ron Curse. Oh,
Speaker 1: let's do it by position. Defensive defensive line, you got
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, Dorance Armstrong, Brent Urban, Carlos Watkins, and then
Speaker 1: you might have to Marcus Lawrence, depending on all right.
Speaker 1: Linebackers Layton vander Esh Keanu'neil. That's that's you know. I
Speaker 1: was not impressed with either last year. Okay, DB's at cornerback,
Speaker 1: Maurice Kennedy safeties j Ron Curse, Demonte Casey, and Malie Cooker.
Speaker 1: That shows all those one year contracts they did last year.
Speaker 1: Now now you have to know what do you do? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and I thought someone that actually faded, uh as
Speaker 1: the season went on quickly was was wasn't in the safety.
Speaker 1: I'm eighteen. I was very disappointed him. I really was. Uh,
Speaker 1: of course I want to the other two. And then Hooker,
Speaker 1: you know, he was coming off an injury. I thought
Speaker 1: hook could played well. I thought he was right well
Speaker 1: for what they asked Hooker to do. And I thought
Speaker 1: he came on stronger. Yes, I think so as well.
Speaker 1: He was all over the field. He was all over
Speaker 1: the field. And he you know, he wasn't just like
Speaker 1: small out there like like uh Jordan. He seemed to
Speaker 1: be bringing more pop with himself. I think he actually
Speaker 1: started playing a little bit more than Jordan's. All right,
Speaker 1: just just let's just say it's affordable on those on
Speaker 1: all those guys. I mentioned that you can afford to
Speaker 1: sign one, which is your which is your cap. You
Speaker 1: can't afford to sign which is your top priority. Randy Gregor, Okay,
Speaker 1: you got Gregory, Mandy Gregory. Okay, how now, how rich
Speaker 1: Are you willing to make Randy Gregory not as rich
Speaker 1: as d Law Okay, not as bitch as he's richer
Speaker 1: than Dalton Schultz, which is ten point nine million a year. Yes,
Speaker 1: I do believe that, right, Okay, he's paid his dues. Okay,
Speaker 1: he did what he's supposed to do. Okay, and for
Speaker 1: a whole season. I think he can hold him for
Speaker 1: all season. About three seasons? No, three years? Okay? No,
Speaker 1: all right, So you're doing slight. He's so slight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're so slight. You're doing a deal where you can
Speaker 1: get out of it after the second year. He's so slight. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, offense, Michael Gallup. We've determined that we Gallop
Speaker 1: is good, yes, okay, and you're fine a little over
Speaker 1: ten million dollars a year. Man, I just hate to
Speaker 1: get with a Cooper man. I was just gonna throw myself.
Speaker 1: I was taking him over Cooper that's not already kept,
Speaker 1: Noah Brown. Otherwide receivers are Cedric Wilson and Malik Turner.
Speaker 1: The only reason that we keep said to Wilson, I
Speaker 1: would hope that he learned something from last year. Once again,
Speaker 1: my optimism and the other thing is because Gallip will
Speaker 1: be out. We're going to need him. I mean, we
Speaker 1: have no choice, right, We're going to need Sedi Wilson
Speaker 1: at least for six weeks. It's just the way it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have it. You don't have five
Speaker 1: catches last year. It's the ones he didn't make, Bill
Speaker 1: I don't want to. So he was he was playing
Speaker 1: on a restricted free agent money last year, two and
Speaker 1: a half million dollars last year. He's gonna double that
Speaker 1: at least this year. And you know, to be honest,
Speaker 1: I'm just talking as a fan, but you know, he
Speaker 1: had a good he had a good year, you know.
Speaker 1: But but can you afford three years eighteen million dollars
Speaker 1: for Cedric? You're gonna have to. You're gonna have to.
Speaker 1: I mean, is there any way you can shorten something
Speaker 1: up like that, because you're only dealing with the six
Speaker 1: weeks that you really have to make, really, not just
Speaker 1: the six weeks. You're still gonna he's another receiver. You're
Speaker 1: undraft one too. Yeah, yeah, so he's still that's still
Speaker 1: enough for him. There's still still no room for him.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to see what the market is
Speaker 1: because there's gonna be a lot of wide receivers out
Speaker 1: on the market, So all right, uh offensive line Connor Williams,
Speaker 1: tie Insecky and okay, uh oh yeah Putter and your
Speaker 1: long snapper Brian Anger and Jake McQuaid. Oh no, I
Speaker 1: gotta have Anger. I gotta have Anger as my dude. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's he's he's my Uh, he's my He's my defensive guy,
Speaker 1: he's my my twelfth defender. You know, the way he
Speaker 1: keeps us in the game, just by the way he
Speaker 1: kicks the ball and that that's pretty that's impressive. I
Speaker 1: hadn't seen that since uh Sean Lindetta. Sounds like he's
Speaker 1: gonna be out there on the market though. Well see, yeah,
Speaker 1: sounds like it. Nobody cares the kickers to just treat
Speaker 1: it like clap. You just said you care. I do,
Speaker 1: I do, but I don't count. I can tell you
Speaker 1: all right, So we just settled it. We did. Uh huh.
Speaker 1: They're listening to. You're keeping listening to. You're keeping Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory and jay Ron curse. If you can't, okay, and
Speaker 1: you have to keep, said Jack Wilson, you have to,
Speaker 1: you just have to. You have no to us who's
Speaker 1: playing linebacker for this team? We only need one one linebacker? Michael, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Michael and anybody else, Ye, Mike and anybody else. But
Speaker 1: you don't you don't think we look at the linebacker.
Speaker 1: You don't think we have any the young guys who
Speaker 1: could back up and do something. Jabril Cox coming off
Speaker 1: an injury. Uh, Gifford is uh what kind of promise
Speaker 1: do you think? He asked? Well? And Gifford is a
Speaker 1: restricted free agent, okay, And so it sounds it's like
Speaker 1: what they want to do with Gifford is work out
Speaker 1: a deal and not give him the restricted free agent money.
Speaker 1: Of a name, and I like him as as a reserve.
Speaker 1: He came a strong Yeah, yeah, I like him as
Speaker 1: special teamer. And may you gotta like the name. You
Speaker 1: gotta like the name. You kind of pull a phone
Speaker 1: just for the name. So yeah, okay, Um, anyway, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be very interesting to see drafting an offensive life
Speaker 1: first offensive line number one? So are you so you
Speaker 1: believe in drafting for position? I do? How many times
Speaker 1: have you? That's how you build your culture, right? I
Speaker 1: mean that's how the Redskins got that be the Hogs, right? Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean who else can we think of? Jeez, great Titans,
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, you know what I mean? That that
Speaker 1: may the made for that. You know, that's the culture
Speaker 1: that there's the Ravens in the in the trenches. Well
Speaker 1: cowboys developed that. There you go with first the Tyre
Speaker 1: Smith pick in the Travis Frederick, and then the Zach
Speaker 1: Martin and then Lyle Collins. It wasn't a first rounder
Speaker 1: because of issues, but it's great. Yeah, but you might.
Speaker 1: But now let's be well, uh, but you can't. You
Speaker 1: can't put a live collars with with that. You can't
Speaker 1: put a signing of live collars the way you can
Speaker 1: be with the signing of the difference though the difference though. Now,
Speaker 1: Frederick was a thirty second pick, okay, Um, they drafted,
Speaker 1: they traded down and took him late in the first round,
Speaker 1: and Martin was mid first round and Tyrann was a
Speaker 1: top ten pick, number round number ten. Okay, at number
Speaker 1: twenty four, you're not getting the same quality typically. Have
Speaker 1: you looked at my guys? Oh I tried. We don't
Speaker 1: have to look at him now, dude, they have a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys. Somebody, First of all, you got this
Speaker 1: kid six feet seven inches tall. Oh my god, uh
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds. He's from my Arizona State killings d
Speaker 1: I e from, No, I don't. I was outside the
Speaker 1: Big Green NFL Draft. He's from Trophy Club Texas. I was,
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you about Texas connections. Ass and
Speaker 1: you know what, my second one because the first one
Speaker 1: is not him, the first one because they ran first,
Speaker 1: they said he'll probably be the first pick. I kim
Speaker 1: uh equo long gun, long gun. He's long gun. He's gone. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they said he'll be the first one. Six four three
Speaker 1: ten nouth Carolina State. I mean these guys, he ran
Speaker 1: under five flat. Both of these guys were under five
Speaker 1: flat in the forty. They probably beat me running man.
Speaker 1: Just ridiculous. And they had the other guy. Of course
Speaker 1: we're talking d Lineman. He just can't pass him up. No,
Speaker 1: I have to talk about this guy five to nine.
Speaker 1: But Texas and them had Kenyan Green. They talked well
Speaker 1: about him. Bro, well you think about him yet, because okay,
Speaker 1: so I thought, you know, Texas kid, I was one
Speaker 1: of if he was a Texas kid. And they keep
Speaker 1: giving this guy so much praise from Texas. See that
Speaker 1: look at that. Keep giving this guy praise. He's six
Speaker 1: to two, three hundred three prowns from Nebraska. His name
Speaker 1: is Cam Jurgens. This is the guy that makes bids.
Speaker 1: I don't beef jerky stupid. Uh he is, I believe
Speaker 1: he is. And he ran a four to ninety one.
Speaker 1: Very athletic kid. They had a lot of athletic guys
Speaker 1: out there. Man Lsu d Ingraham. He was good running
Speaker 1: to forty. I mean it's them ran the five, just
Speaker 1: missed the running up five. I think he actually ran
Speaker 1: it now he ran a five point h six. He
Speaker 1: only got like three one hundreds of a second better.
Speaker 1: And and then all up their accomplishments and outlo Trophy
Speaker 1: finalist was for the Long Gone like you said, mister
Speaker 1: uh Man, that's his middle name, long Gone. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: they said he would be the first one look up
Speaker 1: Zion Johnson. He's another I got it right here, I
Speaker 1: got I'm getting to him somewhere around here. Yeah. He
Speaker 1: was good to Johnson or the two guards that are
Speaker 1: going to be Hey, the one I liked was this kid. Uh,
Speaker 1: Trevor Penning ran the four ninety one. Let me see
Speaker 1: his dimensions. Uh this guy, Yeah, that's the six seven guy. No, no,
Speaker 1: this is another six seven guy from the University of
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois, six feet seven inches tall, three twenty five.
Speaker 1: He can slam a basketball win Meal style like Vince Carter.
Speaker 1: I got the video right here. Well he picked up. Well,
Speaker 1: he can slam defensive ins because he was doing that
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bolts, right, He's amazing. That's another laws again.
Speaker 1: Penning Penning is a Penning Oh Penning. Yeah, yeah, So
Speaker 1: that's University Northern mill North. He's he's just a stud,
Speaker 1: all right. Did you see the cornerback from UTSA, the
Speaker 1: one that Tarik Woolen? I didn't see six four, two
Speaker 1: hundred and five pound Tarik Woolen from UTSA and Fort
Speaker 1: Worth Arlington Heights High School. He ran a four two
Speaker 1: six that's the six four. Oh look there he is
Speaker 1: right there, six four two three one unofficial, but the
Speaker 1: the correct timing of it was a for the official
Speaker 1: was a four two six. I see a four two
Speaker 1: nine is Oh no, that's the bailor guy. Yeah, Baylor.
Speaker 1: So Baileys, did you did you know did you notice
Speaker 1: that the unofficial forty times were off from UM from
Speaker 1: what the officials were by a good what's going on
Speaker 1: with it? I got the inside talking about the I
Speaker 1: got the inside story on that, Chris Beam. Did you hear?
Speaker 1: Do you understand? I did not? But it was a
Speaker 1: computer a little slow. No, you know, they hand time,
Speaker 1: They hand timing. No, no, no, no no. When when
Speaker 1: it airs live on NFL network, they're relying on someone
Speaker 1: who is timing them with a hand timer, and he
Speaker 1: communicates to the truck that four three h four three
Speaker 1: one okay, because they don't have the the official time
Speaker 1: yet and they want to be able to immediately put
Speaker 1: it on the screen. So you have to have someone
Speaker 1: and experience scout who knows how to time these guys
Speaker 1: to make it to the scout. No, and in the
Speaker 1: years past they've been really close on him. Okay. You
Speaker 1: know who doesn't work for the NFL network anymore is
Speaker 1: that Charlie Casserly. Charlie Casserly was the guy who was
Speaker 1: timing them for the NFL Network broadcast all these years,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't there this year, and so whoever was
Speaker 1: timing him didn't have that same Charlie Casserly is the guy.
Speaker 1: And don't you know that Charlie Casserly is sitting there
Speaker 1: at home watching there. You know, he is uses a lot.
Speaker 1: They don't get anything a lot. I'm timing them here
Speaker 1: at home, and I'm getting the right. They should have
Speaker 1: just hired him from a home. Charl Yeah, I tried
Speaker 1: to Casserly cast the Charlie cast. Oh dude, didn't they
Speaker 1: think of that? Oh man, hey doesn't have to now
Speaker 1: you go. But he could be Facebook life Chris, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: So that was the story why they were off on
Speaker 1: so many others. So who was the guy they don't know?
Speaker 1: I okay, here's one. Here's what this guy real good?
Speaker 1: Before we go Texas Tech. You've seen this kid? Well
Speaker 1: you know, but I'm sure you do. Uh, DeMarcus Fields, Okay,
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty two tackles. This is a career,
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half tackles for lost, two sacks, forty
Speaker 1: five pass broke breakups, four interceptions, and four force fumbles.
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. His kids are stud man. You sound like
Speaker 1: Gil Brandt. You're getting into the sky. See you told
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna watch this because I hate the draft.
Speaker 1: I didn't get draft. Give us a craft. But you
Speaker 1: know these you just kind of especially after seeing them
Speaker 1: get drafted doing the pandemic, man, and I'm glad that
Speaker 1: people could see that. Man, those kids have tough life.
Speaker 1: You know. They played with this great school, but when
Speaker 1: they go home, they just home and home is hard,
Speaker 1: you know, and they see and then there's so many
Speaker 1: ways of finding out about these guys too, YouTube, whatever,
Speaker 1: social media, and you can find out that, oh this
Speaker 1: guy does a windmill, dune whatever, you know. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it makes it interesting. They need that. Yeah, So now
Speaker 1: this is good stuff. All right, well good, I can't
Speaker 1: wait pick your brain over the course of the next
Speaker 1: six weeks leaping up to the draft. All right, I
Speaker 1: think if Mickey survived the mountains, he'll be back next week.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be a whole bunch of stuff to
Speaker 1: talk about next week. Oh he's gonna come here ranting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: can you imagine he probably doesn't like the uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the skateboard, the skyboards. Next week. Free agency starts on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: So that's right. Nice to be Thursday. You'll know a lot, yea,
Speaker 1: we will know a lot by Thursday next week. All right.
Speaker 1: That does it for mix shots for this week, and
Speaker 1: we'll talk at you again next week. All right Go Cowboys.
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