1 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to be Good Morning Football Podcast. It's the off season. Addition, 2 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Nate's wearing sunglasses. Why Christ when you're as cool as me? 3 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: The sunshines anywhere you go? Could answer, it's a good answer. 4 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: That's the answer. Welcome everybody to the podcast. That's the 5 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: voice of kay Adams Narls. Who's that. This is the 6 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: voice of Kyle Brad's. It's not really not your voice, Nate. 7 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say, your future is 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 1: so bright you gotta wear shades. Bo Did you get 9 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: a haircut between the time we were on setting right now? 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: It was yesterday? Normally you noticed. I just said, alright, girl, 11 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Actually I said, maybe look like a ken doll. She said, 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: I got you and she just looked it up. You 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: look like a dad. I like that. It's very short, 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: very short dad, American beauty. We're going to get into 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: We're going to get into the NFL summit. We've been 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: gone for sixteen days now, we're back in New York, 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: but we need to get into your bowl of fruit 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: that's in front of you. Kyles. You're facing quite a 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: challenge that started today because of Eddie Lacy and his inspiration. Yeah, 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey's got to hit his weight incentives, as you know, 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: and he gets paid fifty five thousand dollars when he 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: hit some waighs in once a month, he has to 23 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: lose five pounds and fortuitously, maybe for us, we're coming 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: off a vacation. I got a big old spare tire 25 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: around my waist right now. It's not pretty. I've gained weight. 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm thirty eight years old, I have two kids. I 27 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: don't have the energy. I don't sleep as much, and 28 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: I don't have time to work out as much. So 29 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: I eat like an a hole and I've gained some weight. 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: I weighed myself on the show today and I was 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: five foot eleven, two hundred and eighteen pounds. What is 32 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: to my male psyche? What is like the process of 33 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: you guys thinking about your weight. It's a lot of 34 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: looking in the mirror for me, like just a lot. 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm very vain like that, and I've told you this before. 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: K I come from a place with my background where 37 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: I was extremely vain. I was paid to be on 38 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: television in part, in large part because my physique, and 39 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: so maybe for some other guy wouldn't be as much. 40 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: But like when I look, I'm okay, I can hold 41 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: my own. But the fact is, you know, maybe this 42 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: I started to shutting the show today and again I 43 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: always put it like this. If you're listening right now, 44 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: probably a dude, probably thirties, forties, maybe probably have kids, 45 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: and I bet you're kind of fact just like me. Um, 46 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: And it's it's like a new life now. I used 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: to be like the guy I'd have like a six pack, 48 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: you know, like when I was twenty three, I did, 49 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: and now it's disgusting. I don't recognize myself. So I'm like, 50 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take on Eddie Lacey and I'm gonna win 51 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: a month from now and then two months from now, 52 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 1: and the great look at Nate, MAT's still got it. Yeah, 53 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: but Nate, you have to all right, you want six back. 54 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: I was trying to remind you what you used to 55 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: look like. Yeah, you got like three and a half pack. 56 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: I do. I got a little I got a little 57 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: lor keg I'm working on. But for me, kay, it's 58 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: the same thing. We used to look at our bodies 59 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 1: and think, oh, I can't wait to take my shirt off. 60 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: Now it's like I'm hesitant. I'm like, let me I 61 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: was I was holding my stomach really tight. If I 62 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: let it go, I do look pregnant. For me, it's 63 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: all about as I don't care what my body looks like. 64 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't care what I don't care if my chest 65 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: is flat, I don't care my arms look flabby. I 66 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: just because when my abs look tight, because I'm a 67 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: naturally skinny guy, the rest of my body just kind 68 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: of looks like it's fit, even though I'm not in shape. 69 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: It's the hardest hard show to keep fit. It is. 70 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: I went to bike with Schregar and he kicked my 71 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: fingers awesome at the spin bike. I'm not a shape. 72 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: I'm not a shape at all. Peter, you are really 73 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: good at that. And then I'm even Yeah, but I 74 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: could also do some work in the Mexican restaurant and 75 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: the Italian thing is, you did the best thing for 76 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: yourself if you're actually trying to lose weight, because you 77 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: did it in front of the world and you go on, 78 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: you got up on the scale, there is no way 79 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: that you can't lose these five and ten pounds. There's 80 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: no way. I'm confident because put yourself out there a 81 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: public shame. If I weigh in a month from now 82 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: and I've lost two pounds or if I'm up, I 83 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: look like it's such an idiot, But I think I 84 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: lose the weight. I genuinely do. I'm like, I'm The 85 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: funniest thing is when you go online and say I'm 86 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: trying to lose weight. Every guy on Twitter comes in 87 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: with his like hot tip and it's like, dude, here's 88 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: what you gotta do. I just come from this place 89 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: of like complete certainty. You gotta cut out carves, you 90 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: gotta drink a lot of water. My dad's already way. 91 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: He's like, my dad's whole thing is just don't eat 92 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: anything white. I'm like, what does that even mean? Don't 93 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: eat bread, don't eat and I'm Michael Dad. He's like, yeah, 94 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: I never mind eg whites, but everything else white. So 95 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm in the uh, the no white diet. Dude, 96 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: I think you were late jungle fever. Oh boy, how 97 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: are you planning on doing this? Just crazy? Working out 98 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: My system is I am monk during the week, monk 99 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: meaning just a thousand calories a day. But I drive 100 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: myself crazy. It's not sustainable. Not sustainable. What I do 101 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: then is I'm a maniac. On the weekends. Do you 102 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: ever follow a guy Drew maniac Drew maggary on Twitter? 103 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: Do you know I know Drew McGarry. Yeah. So what 104 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: his thing was he was trying to lose weight. He tweeted. 105 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 1: He called it hashtag tweet my weight. He would tweet 106 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: his weight out every morning and he's got one hundred 107 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,559 Speaker 1: thousand followers. So it was like, here's this public record, 108 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: a photo, yep, number you would put his number. It 109 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: would just be one tweet in the morning, two d 110 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: and sixteen and the next day two hundred and fifteen. 111 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: Like that would work. Yeah, it's like you're accountable, right, Kyle. 112 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: Would you be willing to do that? Yeah? And McGarry 113 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: was good at the two He actually was part of 114 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: the influence of this. I followed that for a while 115 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: and he would do funny stuff. He'd be like two eighteen, Oh, 116 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: those egg rolls were a bad idea. You would have 117 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: commentary on it. So when it when it's appropriate, I'll 118 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: keep you guys up to a thousand calories during the 119 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: week and then so what happens when you wait in 120 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: your You're just gonna get them on the weekend. You're 121 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: gonna you're going to gain it all last. There's no 122 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: way you can make maintained. It's worked for me before. 123 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: I was one hundred and eighty nine pounds for my wedding. 124 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: And you just always ate a thousand calories. No, no no, 125 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: four to five days a week, it's a thousand calories. 126 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: You count count like someone said calories math. I've never counted. 127 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: Type it into like either didn't, Peter? Is it? You 128 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: google it? You google like how many calories in an apple? 129 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: And it's I don't one hundred and thirty or something 130 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: you can eat like cheese. It's as long as it 131 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: it was in your calories. Yeah, okay, so say I 132 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: had I had that fruitvalid I don't. I'm not going 133 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: to play in five grapes, Like, how do you know? 134 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: You just type in generic like if you google how 135 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: many calories in a fruit salad, you're gonna get pretty 136 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: close to it, all right, So you do that, you 137 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: have a thousand, and then come Friday night, I get 138 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: into that gin look out Enchilada's chocolate everything, and I 139 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: found that if I do two five thousand calorie days 140 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: and five one thousand calorie days, I lose weight. I'm 141 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: sorry you beating five thousand calories in a single day. Sure, yeah, 142 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: cool at a single bar, you know, like five thousand session. Okay, 143 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: if you ever had a loaded potato skin, I mean 144 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: it's like a dirty bomb. It's like three thousand calories 145 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: and that thing I ever had an awesome blossom blooming 146 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: on you, it's twenty grand I think, I swear and 147 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: you dip it in that ioli. So I can do 148 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: that on the weekend if I want. And I am 149 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: telling you, at the end of the summer, I will 150 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: be down. I've got a fantasy name for Kyle. Do 151 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: you yeah, dip it in that ioli? By the way, 152 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: did I said that on the air today? Yesterday? I 153 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: said weird about a pretzel or something? Yeah, I said 154 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: something Yesterday's as a big load on their shoulders, and 155 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: I was like, with someone who has a lot of 156 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: responsibility for the team this season, And I was like, yeah, there, 157 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: that's I said what I said. And I was like, Nate, 158 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna laugh when I said it. I'm so glad 159 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: because I would, Yeah, work, I work, I spin, I 160 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: work out, I do P ninety X in my basement. 161 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: All that stuff literally in my basement. I have a 162 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: mat down and a crappy TV and I put in 163 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: my DVDs same ones I use in twenty ten for 164 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: my wedding, and it's me doing the burpies and like 165 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: the mountain climbers. How often do you do that five 166 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: or six days a week? Who are you to do 167 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: it today? Like I want to do it incredibly So 168 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: when you're doing this and you guys look at like 169 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey and these incentives. Yeah, and as a former player, Nate, 170 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: and just as a fan all of us, is it 171 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: like kind of a joke? Is it serious? Do you 172 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: guys feel bad that he can't lose the weight? Do 173 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: you sympathize with them? Or you like, come on, if 174 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: I needed to lose ten pounds, I could do it 175 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: in a second. Well, historically, when it came to football, 176 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: the only guys that had to worry about losing weight 177 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: or the lineman period, hands down. Occasionally there will be 178 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: a guy that was a lineback or even a running 179 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: back or tight in running back in this situation with 180 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey, and it does shock you. And to the 181 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: masses it might be a running joke, but to the 182 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: guys within the locker room, it is a complete joke 183 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: because we give each other the hardest time, so you 184 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: can only imagine the jokes that are going on within 185 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: that lock of that. But because because new guy, he 186 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: got paid a lot of money, so he's walking in, 187 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: are they like, Hey, that's the whole point. It's a 188 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: new guy, you got paid a lot of money. You 189 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: better have thick skin. You're walking here. And I hate 190 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: to say it, and it's not a word that it's 191 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: not politically correct, but it's like, hey, fat boy, come on, 192 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: come come over here and get on the scale. Let's see. 193 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: And it's one of those things because it's so public 194 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: that everybody, I guarantee is watching it. So as soon 195 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: as he gets on the scale, the whole team is 196 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: sitting there looking and I guarantee he came off. It 197 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: was one of those everybody's making a joke of it. 198 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: If he continues to do what he wants to do, 199 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: then the joke isn't so funny. Peter, this is so public? 200 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: Is this unprecedented? No, there's nateriite. There's always been like 201 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: offensive linement, like if you can keep it under three 202 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: fifty yea, but to this degree, because who was it 203 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: was there a guy last year similar kind of thing 204 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: where it almost like Twitter. It's like the perfect thing 205 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: for the Twitter era, because like I could relate to that, 206 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: and you did your thing, and it's like, wait a second, 207 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: I could make fifty five thousand dollars. If you told 208 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: me I could lose it, It's like, okay, go do it. Then, 209 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: like do it? Do you really need the fifty five 210 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: thousand dollars? I just want to lose five thousands. I 211 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: think I just read that Dantari Poe has waited incentives too, 212 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: and Byron and Byron Bell and the Cowboys like other 213 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: guys have had it forever. But for a star running 214 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: back signing with a new team like and to be so, 215 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: like you said on air, the agency, his agent was 216 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: like tweeting out he passed his test. What about Kelvin Benjamin? Yeah, 217 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean the word on the street is Day's two seventy. 218 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: Like that's crazy, absolutely crazy for a guy who played 219 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: around two fifty two forty. If there is anybody in 220 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: any position that has wait and sent as, this should 221 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: be covered. There is also the sentiment of why are 222 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: we even like your professional athlete? How could how could 223 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: you not be in shape? That's absolutely absolutely like and 224 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: that when it's like, oh you're fat, shame, no, no, no no, 225 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: you are paid millions of dollars to use your body 226 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: like that is unprofessional that you're not in shape. It's 227 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: a singer one hundred percent. That we're paying you, Eddie 228 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: Lacy to be the best physical specimen possible and you're 229 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: eating Chinese food and gaining weight. It's completely unprofessional. That's 230 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: why I never feel bad going in on an athlete 231 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: for doing that. That's a job. If you didn't get 232 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: the fifty five k, like it's your fault. I don't 233 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: feel bad for you're not getting imagine five k, like 234 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: you should be in shape anyway. It seems like he's 235 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: weighing in just at the exact like a little close 236 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. But what are you doing? Like I 237 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: would I would never let it be within a pound 238 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: three pound four pound buffer? What are you thinking? Because 239 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: last day, what are you thinking? I don't want to 240 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: mess with it, Peter. Have you let me ask you 241 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: have you gotten like a proper physical recently and with 242 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: a doctor's office? And I went yesterday you did? Yeah, 243 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: I went a couple of weeks ago and they step 244 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: on that scale. I didn't. I did I step on 245 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: a scale, and you know that the thing where they're 246 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: exactly and they they start tapping it and tapping it, 247 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: and you know, I had the worst thing ever. I 248 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: tap it and tap tap it all the way and 249 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: went to the big block. He had the wrong big 250 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: block from my fat ass. And so that I was like, 251 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: all right, I gotta do something about this. Did you 252 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: did you get stressed? Good? Good, good? Like you said 253 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: you were sething on the scale today and you were 254 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised, like two eighteen. Yeah, it's not a great 255 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: feet of what I weighed, but I was lighter than 256 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: I thought. So I felt like I could cheat like 257 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: last night. I'm like, no, no, no no, no, no, that's 258 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: not worse. If you have a good way and you're like, sweet, 259 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: let's go to cold Stone. That's totally counterintuitive, but it 260 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: wake it works that way. I just thought saw the 261 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: reaction when you did when you got on the scale 262 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: then on Twitter that people were relating to you, and 263 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: it seems like something that people are going to maybe 264 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: want to even join you on I hope, so I'd 265 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: like to do it like that. I don't have a 266 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: brain that works great, like that yours is better than mine? Like, 267 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: how do you make that a thing? Like you should 268 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: when you hear fro people that are like, hey man, yeah, 269 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: I was just watching I'm thirty, I got two kids. 270 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: I'm fat, Like I'd love to lose some weight too, 271 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: Like that has to be a social driven thing. No, 272 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm not fat, but wild, No I'm not. I'm not 273 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: like an obese guy and there are people are, but 274 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: like by the definition, I'm overweight and I'm gonna do something. 275 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: But all right, all right, Well you will have a 276 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: couple of vacation weeks coming up. We all started do 277 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: We just got off of a two week vacation that 278 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: found us all in LA on the same day to 279 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: attend the NFL Network Summit. It was in Santa Monica. 280 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: There were like three hundred of us in a grand 281 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: ball where imagine where there's a wedding, but there's tables 282 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: set up when you're not eating the surf and twur 283 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: if you were instead listening to keynote speaker after PowerPoint 284 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: presentation everything about our network. And it was awesome because 285 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: it was the first one that the four of us 286 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: were at together. Although Peter they separated us, he did. 287 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: We didn't sit together. They were his signed seats. I 288 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: look right at the seating chart when I walk in. 289 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: Kay was sitting with I would say, Alex Flanagan and 290 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: Stacy Dale James later Scott Hanson. Nate was sitting over 291 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: there with William mc ginnis and Colleen Wolf, Tiffany Blackman, 292 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: and I was sitting with Steve Weish and also Andrew Ceciliano. 293 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: But Kyle maybe had the best seat in the house. 294 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: He did, of course, Why did they do that? What 295 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: is is that a incidence that Steve Smith and I 296 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: were in the front road directly in front of the 297 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: day I almost wonder, did Steve Smith say he wanted 298 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: to sit next to you because he just thinks you're 299 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: so goofy? He might have. He might have been putting 300 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: next to that goofy kid. It was really fun. It 301 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: was like being in detention. Were the class clowns? When 302 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: when when the second grade teacher makes a seating chart 303 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: and she's like, yep, I've got to put Andrew h 304 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: and Matt and next to each other right here so 305 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: I can keep my eyes on them. That's what they did. 306 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: Mike Mariano of NFL Network did that to you, Smith, 307 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: picture one hundred and fifty people in the coffe room, 308 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: like you said, maybe fifteen rows of people, big, big 309 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: time NFL legends, Dan Sanders, Willia McGinnis, Marshall Fuck he 310 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: was Yeah, I saw him. I think he took off. 311 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: Michaelurb and Marshall falls, Daniel Thomlinson, they're there, Brian Bill 312 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: and then great reporters, people have worked thirty years in 313 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: reported and then like you know, that's the four of us, 314 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting like ten feet from the head of 315 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: the network and all the brass with Steve Smith. Now 316 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: here's the difference. Steve Smith doesn't GAF about a lot 317 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: of things that I do j about. I don't have 318 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: the same hand to play like he's he was the 319 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: coolest guy in the room in a sense, he's the 320 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: newest athlete out of the league. He's really like a legend, 321 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: like he's incredibly Yeah. So to that end, Steve Smith 322 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: not g and f will just be like, yo, just 323 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: talk to me in the middle of a very important presentation, 324 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: or like he'll be over and going going like that 325 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: with the middle of somebody talking like Steve, they're talking 326 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: about some serious stuff, whisper. I can't be the guy 327 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: not listening to the talk about you know how to 328 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: treat people? Or I have to listen to that because 329 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: I have award winning journalist behind me judging my big 330 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: fat head in the front row of that smart ass 331 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: some good morning football is not paying attention. I felt 332 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: like that he's playing with your hair chaos right behind 333 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: you that way too. Yeah, but they didn't care. Then again, KB, 334 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: you found some comfort and you turned it to that 335 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: badass kid in the front seat. You were at one 336 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: point it might have been like later in the day, right, 337 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: we're all getting a little antsy. I'll remember you leaning 338 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: back and shooting the text messages to some body and 339 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: you have to mischievous eyes like did you get the 340 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: tech shit looking at me? I never did you say 341 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: it to me, but you are looking you lean back 342 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: in your see you were kind of like, you know, 343 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: popping the text message back like it is funny. All 344 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: these NFL executives, not even NFL Network but actual like 345 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: Al River and they're all they're sitting on this panel 346 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: and Kyle is there like playing hangman with Steve was 347 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: showing mentioned take Tactoe over there I would have videos 348 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: that are un kosher for YouTube. He's showing me like 349 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: world star type videos are like and then he's like, 350 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, should I FaceTime my wife right now? Like 351 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, because I actually but I'm like, 352 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: I think he might be serious. I'm like, no, Steve, 353 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: don't do definitely a serious because he's so cool and 354 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: like the coolest guy in the room. But I have 355 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: to say the thing we all we all agree on this. 356 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: There was a moment in that day when it was 357 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: you know, some of it is a little dry, some 358 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: of its procedural. There was a moment when the whole 359 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: room woke up, specifically all the players, and it was 360 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: when Al River on the New how To Officiating got 361 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: up and started talking about rules. Those players woke up. 362 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: I needed a popcorn. When that happened. I turned to 363 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: my side and I see Taylor's face. I'm watching Steve Smith, 364 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at Sean O'Hara. Everybody'd be like, oh, Al 365 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: handled himself amazingly. It was great. But what I love 366 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: about that, like, that's a subject that woke up different 367 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: generations of great athletes, like you've seen I Taylor respond 368 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: and then you heard Marshall Hawk in the back like yeah, 369 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about, and then Ladany and chime in, 370 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: and then William McGinnis say something, and then even like 371 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: Dean Sanders be like, nah, that's what they deserve. Like 372 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this is crazy because regardless of when 373 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: you exited the league, like you care about the rules 374 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: and regulations of it, because errors defined certain errors and 375 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: when they change, errors get upset. Yeah, and I would 376 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: I would set that up with the scene if you're 377 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: listening at home in that Literally the forty minutes beforehand, 378 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: we sat through a website redesigned refresh seminar and like 379 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: stuff that was like tough to watch, and the website 380 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: like is being redesigned and not that I'm not for 381 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: digital media, it doesn't exactly apply to Terrell Davis. So 382 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: I turn around. I'm like, man, this is getting kind 383 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: of dry and boring or going through the different website 384 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: pages of the new NFL dot com. And I turn 385 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: around and I see that Danny and Tomlinson is looking 386 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: at me straight in the eyes and it's just kind 387 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: of nodding. I'm like, wow, Tomlinson sitting through this also 388 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: so I'm like, this is getting a little dry, and 389 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: then they all lit up with that referee stuff, and 390 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: specifically because alb Riverron had clips, and one of the 391 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: first clips he showed had to do with this play here, idiot, 392 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: the coaches clicker like Maddon will now be considered an 393 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: illegal hit. He's talking about legalities of hitting. And you 394 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: got wide receivers, but you also have dbs and you 395 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: have latbacks. You have both sides. So people who have 396 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: probably not been paying the closest attention to the website 397 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: portion are now chirping and saying what about this? What 398 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: about this? And it got a little, a little bit, 399 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: a little bit the cript For years, for years, running 400 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: backs were never considered defenseless receivers. So yes, a guy 401 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: like Marshall Falker, Ladanian Thominson would get his head knocked off, 402 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: but if a receiver was to get the same play, 403 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: it's a flag. So now James White clip, it was 404 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: a James White cliff, So now that play is going 405 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: to be a flag where the running backs included. Now, however, 406 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: James White makes eye contact with the guy who was 407 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: about to hit him and didn't let up, so all 408 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: the cornerbacks are like, well, wait a second, why is 409 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: that illegal? And if even m J. D Chin then 410 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: was like, I'm a running back and I'm off to 411 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: protecting myself and my guys. But he made eye contact 412 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: with the linebackers, it still ran right at him, and 413 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,719 Speaker 1: still ran right at him, and you're flagging the defensive 414 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: back the linebacker is It's all former NFL players making 415 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: these comments and going back and forth with Al until 416 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: Kyle Brant raises. The only thing you said out loud 417 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: the entire time was wait, but let's talk about the dunks. 418 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: You're the only one of the four of us that 419 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: said anything in this nine hour affair, and it was 420 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: about It was probably the most well received question too, 421 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: because it was actually taken into consideration by river Hun. 422 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: Picture that Al Rivern who runs efficient and he's in 423 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: charge of the reps. He's the guy in New York 424 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: who will be the czar of officiating. He's in a 425 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: room with all these people and he's hitting got some 426 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: strange let's not forget how strange The conversation was about 427 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: leaping over the center on kicks. That one on for 428 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: a long ig. Yeah, and then you know, Sean O'Hara 429 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: got up. It's a very pointed things to say to 430 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: him about players safety, which he did, and then he 431 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: starts talking about celebrations and celebrations, two things I thought 432 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: was interesting, genuinely interesting. He refused to put a time 433 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: limit on celebrations, meaning they will be flagged for going 434 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: on too long. But I don't have a shock like 435 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: I can't tell you that's very loose. I don't like 436 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: that it's very loose because it's a guy standing and 437 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: being like, all right, go on, go on, but then 438 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: he flags it eventually. It's not ten seconds, not anything. 439 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: So my point was something it has to be. It's 440 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: too vague. We've talked about this on the show. Everybody 441 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: liked the dunking over the crossbar, Jimmy Graham, Tony Gonzas. 442 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: Lots of guys have done it, and they never when 443 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: they change, they use the balls to prop all that 444 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: they never clarified. Dunking is not so. I asked the 445 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: head of efficiating is dunk legal and he gave a 446 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: weird answer. He seemed to hit, yes, the goal post 447 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: or the uprights in your dunk, if your hand hits it, 448 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: if the ball hits it, it's a flag. If you 449 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: can smoothly do it without any contact on the uprights. 450 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: It is not a flag. Most of our guys can. 451 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: How the high jumping dunkers in high school would do 452 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: it because you couldn't touch the rim and warm up right, 453 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: How they would touch over the rim and splash it down. Now, 454 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: here's the thing about the NFL. There's not a lot 455 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: of guys that can get that high. Really, there's guys 456 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: that can dunk it, but to get above that, you 457 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: have no contact to make sure like that is that's 458 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: hard to do in a regular yes, regular tin foot 459 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: hoop in high school. To do that on a goal post, 460 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: you gotta have dumbhops. Now, there's guys that can do it. 461 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen Calvin do it. I'm pretty sure 462 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: like the tall one can do it. But I don't know. 463 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: If everyone just baffles me, you just don't get it. 464 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: So Peter week to uh pick a player. Marvin Jones 465 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: celebrates and it goes on for eleven seconds and he 466 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: doesn't get flagged right or he ends up and they 467 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: celebrates eleven seconds a little excessive whatever. Then later on 468 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: week six, d On Lewis goes and he celebrates and 469 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: he gets flagged after eight seconds because they think it's excessive. 470 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: How can you reconcile that have to be able to appeal. 471 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: Marvin Jones has to be able to say this was 472 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: eight seconds. He didn't get fined. I got fined up 473 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: for eleven. It's a great question. Okay, yeah, post, that's 474 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 1: the last thing you want for your rules are so 475 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: to me, that's it has at some point it has 476 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: to be maybe they use the preseason to gauge the 477 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: amount of motion. And I mean, I don't know if 478 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: it's a time, No, it has to be has to 479 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: be time, because hey, to your point, what's going to 480 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: happen is someone on Twitter is who's good with the video. 481 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: It was going to take the side by side and 482 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: put a timer on the Dan Lewis the eleven seconds 483 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: and little bit timer on the Marven Lewis on that 484 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: fact and he'll be fine. It'll be like, they'll be 485 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: perfectly justifiable to do that. It was strange why he 486 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: kept being like, I'm not gonna put a shock clock on. 487 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna shot. You want to see maybe they'll 488 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: they want to see what the players are take the 489 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: mean of what they'll do in preseason and yeah, that 490 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: could be to see what a players sends. Point, they're 491 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: going to have to because you're going to actually have 492 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: data at some point on how long they celebrate it. 493 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: So you can't find here. Here's what's wrong about that 494 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: that that that train of thought is that the players 495 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: aren't going to bring out the good stuff for the people. 496 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: Oh no, there's not one guy. So by week five 497 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: they're going to have to adjust. And he said, well, 498 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: we'll be open to ill. I think he said we'll 499 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: play it by year. Don't want to put words in 500 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: his mouth something like that. I got the feeling that 501 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: basically he's gonna wait to see what happens week one 502 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: through four and then he's going to readjust it and say, listen, 503 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: it's twelve seconds and you're out of there. Can I 504 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: give a conspiracy thing? I want all your thoughts on 505 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: this something that's doing in your head for the last 506 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: like thirty second. Someone who said this to me, someone 507 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: who is cynical as I am, and said, now that 508 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: it's encouraged by the NFL and the league is like, yeah, celebrate, 509 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 1: does it become corny to celebrate? Like will some players 510 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: be like you know what? Now that the league is 511 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: pushing me, Hey go be you be you circus clown? 512 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: Are there going to be players are like I'm not. No, 513 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: it's not rock and roll. It's almost like, you know, 514 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: he's not taboo. It's not taboo. Depends on we want 515 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: you to be yourself, be your crazy zany self guy. Yeah, 516 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: not celebrating is the new celebrating. So like, no, I'm 517 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: not gonna be here. I'm not gonna be your circus clown. 518 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: I feel what you're saying. It's too hard into it. Yeah, 519 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: I think you're trying to go making money off. It's 520 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: too hard. It's harder to not celebrate it. Sorry, not celebrate. 521 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: Here's for years. Antonio Brown sold, don't celebrate, don't sell 522 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: the written. Now, oh we're gonna we're gonna market, celebrate, 523 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: do whatever you want. Yeah, we're gonna market. We're gonna 524 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: make money. We're gonna sell commercial thing though Madden's been 525 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: making money up and already there's already been commercials. These 526 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: guys have been doing and making money. What we do. 527 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: It was before it was allowed, before it made a 528 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: video and say hey guys, this is what's cool. You're 529 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: right on right away. The cool card's gone. There's a 530 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: few guys that are like, you know what, I don't 531 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: want to do it, But majority of the guys are eagle, 532 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: satistical maniacs. You're talking about NFL athletes who have a 533 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: helmet on. So we're enbous of baseball players and NBA 534 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: players because they're so recognizable. We're not the one moment 535 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: we get where we get take stage, but the one 536 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: one we get warned, we get the stage by ourselves 537 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: when it's not eleving guys getting recognized is when we 538 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: get end zone. Majority of the guys think like that. 539 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: You'll get the Julios, you'll get the Calvin Johnson's, you'll 540 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: get the David Johnson's. But majority, and I mean a 541 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: strong ninety percent of guys are gonna show their ass. 542 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: Why did Vias say that he hasn't even thought about 543 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: it and he'll probably just stick with the same celebration, 544 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: O Tavis, we're enjoying the show. Yesterday, his demeanor was different, though, 545 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean I got the feeling that he's percent Yeah, 546 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: he's in that ten percent. I mean he got up 547 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: there and was talking glowingly about Dalvin Cook. He was like, listen, man, 548 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: we're this together. He's not. He doesn't seem like the 549 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: guy that wants the stage by himself. We aren't talking 550 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: about big ego guys. I mean these are guys sunglasses indoors. 551 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: We're talking Antonio Brown, Odell Beckham, We're talking. We're not 552 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: talking publicist Peter. You think going to them and saying like, hey, 553 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: hammered up, you should really here is the new changes. 554 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: What can we do to like, Okay, think about it. 555 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: If you're a young guy who hasn't got paid, maybe 556 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: you're one two years away from your contract and you're 557 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: gonna get an end zone two to three times, but 558 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: you're playing underneath the superstar or maybe a couple of superstars, 559 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: and you got three chances to make something, just make 560 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: a a ripple effect that laughed about the regular season. 561 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: You do something and we talk about damn guy does 562 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: the ninja double backflip with like a tuck. You're gonna 563 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: be like, ohly, what is that? Kind of like who's 564 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: Marvin Marvin Jones? Marvin Jones a while ago he did 565 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: that crate No, no, no, it was about Sam Marvin 566 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: Simpsons since you're talking about Jerome Simpson. Yeah, he did 567 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: that flip accidentally the line doesn't the goal line, and 568 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: we remember him since he hasn't done anything since. But 569 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: there's moments that we remember. These guys are trying to 570 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: capture that moment on top of a moment, because it 571 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: touchdowns a moment do something. If I was still playing, 572 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: I would show off. Nay, let me ask you the 573 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: owners making money off at your corny right, so let's 574 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: say more money off. And when I get that commercial, 575 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: but let's say Antonio Brown though scores this long touchdown, 576 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: he runs in the end zone. He gets there and 577 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: he's just like, now I don't want to do I've 578 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: done my dad. I did it when I was It 579 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: would be so bad ass, it'd be I love that, 580 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: it would be great. But football, he's gonna celebrate and 581 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: every at this point, that's part of his brand. Like 582 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: even though you would like him to be the tough 583 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: guy and say, you know what, rage against the machine, 584 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna celebrate. But we all 585 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: kind of invested in all day. I kind of want 586 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: to see how creative people will be. Actual guys curious 587 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: a little bit. I am who's gonna who's gonna take 588 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: it far? Of course, I just love that you're gonna 589 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: push the limit. There's a part of me that says, 590 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: right now, if the owners bless it after all these years, 591 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: like hey, we're in on it like that, Like the 592 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: cool kids are like, no, no, you're not, You're not 593 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: a part. I hope I see that the balls a prop, 594 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: like who's gonna use the ball as a prop? Mari 595 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: which had was using the ball in the pylon. It 596 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: was amazing to me. That was great. And also I 597 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: wonder if right halfway through this season's all right, guys, 598 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: we see the props, everyone's doing snow angels like it's 599 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: kind of petering out. I wonder that too, because it 600 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: was limited before it, so what happened to a rebellious 601 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: act made it cool? Guys. This is the NFL, and 602 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: pop culture runs the world. New things happens, all the 603 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: new things happen, all the time, new shows happened. There's 604 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: a moment that's gonna go viral in a video. We're 605 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: gonna see it first, and that guy's gonna do a 606 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: Baur Pat dance Salt Bay or whatever the dab or 607 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: whatever it's. It's our life revolves around what we see 608 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: on digital media. And NFL players all you have. The 609 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: genius thing about celebrations is it's like trending hashtags. You know, 610 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: we talked about being popular social media. When we have 611 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: the summit, it's trending celebrations. If you want to trend, 612 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: do what Travis Kelsey does. He looks at what's hot 613 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: and he just doesn't ends on. It's genus odelle what's hot, 614 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: he just does it. We have a ton of Markette 615 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: king they're running around. Yeah, so that's the worry. Yeah, well, 616 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: Marquette's gonna be Marquette. Yeah. Why are you wearing sunglasses 617 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: and not not over? It's not for why are you thinking? Man? 618 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: For what I think? Why does he wearing sunglasses? Nate 619 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: yea and they were hanging out. I said, why are 620 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: all these guys wearing sunglasses at night? Don't quis an idiot? 621 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: Not blind that way? Anything else? We were that we're 622 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: looking forward to maybe from Mini camp or from the summit. 623 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: We met Will Selva. That was cool, awesome. Finally, I 624 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: don't think people realize that we've never met him in person. No, 625 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: and it's weird. Could see him every single day for 626 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: eleven months. He was like our like someone will be 627 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: video chat with I think it might have messed with 628 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: the juju you do. I think it might have been interesting. 629 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: I think he's like, look too comfortable. Oh but were 630 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: a little different, don't do you guys feel like they're 631 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: a little It was a moment. Yeah, he do a 632 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: little comfortable. Yeah, gotta put him back. I sing them 633 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: a little hard yesterday. Instead, if we go on a 634 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: road trip, we can be our butler. And I was like, 635 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: it was mean, it was, but maybe I love you, Peter. 636 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: I want to hear about you getting dressed with Nate 637 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: and Dion? What was this? This is a funny thing 638 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: that would happen if some of these things. What was that? 639 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: So picture any of you guys listening. You get put 640 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: in a room and you're with Dion Sanders and Nate 641 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: Burrows and they say, Okay, now you're gonna dress out 642 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: of your shorts and a T shirt that you wore 643 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: to this room, and now you're gonna go put on 644 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: a suit. Now to do that, you need to put 645 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: get into your underwear and you need to take off 646 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: your shirt. And there's in a dressing room and yeah, 647 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: Deon Sanders maybe the greatest athlete of modern era Nate Burlison, 648 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: who jumped forty two and a half inches back in 649 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: two thousand and three and probably could still jump forty inches, 650 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: and every day you look at him and say, how 651 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: does a man of that age look like that? Well, 652 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm not so vain or self. I know what exactly 653 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: what I look like. I'm okay, I can go in 654 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: there and very secure, very secure. That duo is a 655 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: tough one to do. And and it was Michael Irvin 656 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: as well, soakes put together. So they get in and 657 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make small talk with Dion because 658 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: it's Dion, and I'm trying to be cool, and I'm wondering, 659 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: does he know who I am? I can assume he 660 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: knows who I am, but probably not. And I'm like, 661 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: all right, Dion, so tell me who's the fastest baseball 662 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: player of all time? And he's like, I'm not gonna 663 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: do a deal invitation. But he's like, Ricky Henderson was 664 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: the fastest base to base, but straight line rounding the 665 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: base from plate from home plate to home plate, it 666 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: was probably Vince Coleman. I'm like, okay, I'm like, what 667 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: about Tim Rains. He's like, now, Tim could run and 668 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: like we're getting into it. I love it. The Nate's like, 669 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: Who's the best hitter of all time? All the All 670 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: the while, I'm checking my clock if I can drain 671 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: this out as long as possible. They're both going to 672 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: be dressed out of the room and then I can 673 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: get dressed. I'm waiting. I'm just trying to kill time. Yeah, like, okay, 674 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: eventually they're gonna both be dressed and leave and I 675 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: can have the whole room to myself and get down 676 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,719 Speaker 1: to my underwear. Well, yeah, he starts talking about Barry Bonds, 677 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: and now I'm very interested. He says, Barry Bonds. This 678 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: is from Dion Sanders was a three time league MVP 679 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: before any of the acquis excisations anything. But he watched 680 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: Sosa and McGuire get all inflated and get big, and 681 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: this was an ego play for Bonds and saying, you 682 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: know what, no, no, no, I'm gonna show them and 683 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat that record. All the while, I haven't changed. 684 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: Dion is fully embracing the conversation. He hasn't changed. And 685 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: finally I just had to call uncle, and you'd think, okay, 686 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: well you call uncle. It means you just get changed 687 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: in front of these guys, suck it up and whatever. No, 688 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: I took my entire suit, my shirt. I took him 689 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: to a bathroom stall. Whear like Dan Hands was probably 690 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: just took a crap and I and I get in 691 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: the stall, you know, Mark Sessler just lea working there. 692 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: And I got changed in my suit in a bathroom 693 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: stall in Culver City. And then I come back in 694 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: there and they're all They're all dressed to the nines. 695 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: They all just got changed. I'm like, wow, I know 696 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: why I was letting. I know all the guys who've 697 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: been in that stall. Dan Hell, he's been in there, 698 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: and this has been in there. Atrocious, I don't even hear. 699 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: First of all, my confession is is that one of 700 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: one of the only NFL Network talents in the whole 701 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: world that I have never spoken to is Dion, and 702 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm deliberately doing it. I avoid Dion because I know 703 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: that I would not come across well, I would be 704 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: too nervous. Dion was my childhood idol. My entire my 705 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: entire bedroom was Dion posters. And I know, like I'm 706 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: listening to you, you just made chatter about baseball trying 707 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: it seems so reasonable. It's an easy topic. He played baseball. 708 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: I know I would just say stupid stuff and I'd 709 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: be nervous and I wouldn't come across well. So I'm 710 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: telling you that is as my idol. I mean, I 711 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: couldn't talk to him, and I I don't think I talked 712 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: to Michael Jordan. I've chosen not to. I passed him 713 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: in the hallway and already at is something douchy. I 714 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: passed him the hallway, who's kind of look? And I go, 715 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: I go, hey, what's up? Prime? And he goes, hey, man, 716 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: And I felt lame saying. So can tell you a 717 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: quick story. When we were doing the Rome Show on Showtime, 718 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: all right, we had Snoop on the show. Let me 719 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: tell you about the whitest moment of my life. Snoop 720 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: is backstage, all right, Soop's got all these piza Is 721 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: that what Peter? I can't tell you how legit it is. 722 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: He has big bags with him. It's not and it's not. 723 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: He goes into the restroom and just smoke everywhere. That's 724 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: what he does. But my moment was my job was 725 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: to go back and talk to Snoop and be like, Snoop, 726 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: So here's our segment. Everything already, I'm clapping my hands 727 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: like I'm out a dance floor. Um, and I go 728 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: up to him and from far away where it's see 729 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: each other going across the room, and I already started 730 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: going slow motion, and this is what happened. I said, Hey, Snoop, 731 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: what's up? And he had that high pitched voice, what's up? 732 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: Dog like? He said like that, and I was like, 733 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: and we had we went in for a like a 734 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: hand shape. Oh no, no, I'm telling you this was 735 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: a nuclear meltdown. Because my thing is, I don't know 736 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: what you're doing, so I'm gonna go with a standard handshake, 737 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: all right, hand out. So I went in like this, 738 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: k and immediately we don't even get to touch because 739 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: he's inverted upright, and I go, he's going for something 740 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: up here. I don't know what he's going for, and 741 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: like I wish I was, but he's what's sad dunk? 742 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: And then I go up and like this, I adjusted 743 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: and then he I went to pull him in and 744 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: he wasn't necessarily coming in, so now I'm dragging him 745 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: in and you're kind of going back. And then I 746 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: went with my hand on the elbow. It was so 747 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: and then like a lame two handed handshake, like we 748 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: just closed a real estate deal with the giant scissors 749 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: and this is Snoop, It's the coolest guy ever. And 750 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: it was like he goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, and like now, 751 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I think I came across too hard. 752 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: And I'll imagine this when we separate now, like I mean, 753 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: his guys practically stood up. Now we've got to talk 754 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: about the segment too. I have to present myself as 755 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: a professional just in this awkward dude, my too much, 756 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: too aggressive handshake. My ears were ringing. I've never ever 757 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: felt more awkward than that. And at just the second 758 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: he said that what's up dog? To the end of it, 759 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: I butchered it so badly. So I worry about my 760 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: conversation with Dan because my childhood Idol's coolest athlete ever. 761 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: And I think I was like, so, who was the 762 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: fastest base one that would come across from me at 763 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: least as a ham handed way to get into sports talk. 764 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: But you're telling me what he was easy going? I 765 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: started off, Peter can pull it off. I don't think 766 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the fastest like receiver or dB aside 767 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: from himself, and how did it start? That's how I 768 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: started it all. You did that pretty much right, say Dion. 769 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. You know, I'm as awkward as 770 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: you guys are around these superstars, because you know, I'm 771 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: only as human as he has the skins on the wall, 772 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: on the wall, literally the redskins on the wall. And 773 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: with Dion falk Lt I talked to them, I'll shoot 774 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: out football conversation casually as icebreakers. I'm still a child 775 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: and I'm still a fan. So in that moment, Primetime 776 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: is sitting in that room, it's me and Schregar, and 777 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: I knew I don't get to talk to Dion often. 778 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: When I used to work in LA I would do 779 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: the same thing, even if it was Moots or Billick, 780 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: whoever it was. I would ask these small questions and 781 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: just start story time because who else can get story 782 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 1: time without them saying nah, I don't want to share 783 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 1: this without you paying me. So once we got into 784 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: it and I saw Schregar over there, his guard went down. 785 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: Then Dion just kind of kicked back and was like, oh, 786 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: let's talk a little sports. It came off as a 787 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: really organic conversation. Here's another little aspect to it. In 788 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: the dressing room, there's a TV on and it's like, 789 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: you know whatever the terrible like ESPN show, the moment 790 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: was whatever it was, and they were talking about Kaepernick. 791 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: So remember, so there's like a talking point, right, and 792 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: like Dion and Irvin are both in there just watching quietly, 793 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, they're watching these two yahoos whoever's 794 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: up there talking And it's like Dion and Irvin watching 795 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: two guys. And it wasn't like this the first take 796 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: show someone else. But it was like I even said 797 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: to Nag, I don't even know who that is talking. 798 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: It was like some no name on ESPN guy, like 799 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: with very much authority. I'm like, Kaepernick needs to be 800 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: in the Seahawks because of and like I'm watching two 801 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: of the greatest of all time Hall of Fame is 802 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: just quietly watching it together in silence, and I'm like, oh, 803 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: I hope I don't come off it's cringey like that, 804 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: like talking football when those guys are watching. I don't 805 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: like it. When Peter comes back from trips and says, 806 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: I you know, I was at you know the Seahawks facility. 807 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: You're on every screen. The whole team is watching it 808 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: because I'm picturing us, you know, doing whiteboard Wednesday, watching me. 809 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 1: This was the all time stage. It's Falcons versus Seahawks 810 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and the Seahawks are staying in a hotel 811 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: airport by Atlanta, and the production crew was myself, John 812 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: Lynch and Kevin Burkhardt. And we go to the facility, 813 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: uh and Pam Oliver. We go to the facility or 814 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: the hotel and in one conference room is all this 815 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: like breakfast spread set up with TV's on and it's 816 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: NFL Network and first take and on another TV. It's 817 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: in another conference room. It's where we're gonna meet with 818 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: the players. So we'll meet with Russell Wilson, We'll meet 819 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: with Pete Carroll, meet with Thomas Rowles, whoever else, Michael Bennett, whatever. 820 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: I go into the wrong conference room and there is Kyle. 821 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: Because I'm on remote, there is Kyle talking about the 822 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: Seahawks on the TV, and h I think, and Richard 823 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: Sherman is sitting there with Earl Thomas and they're watching 824 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: Kyle talk about the Seahawks, and I'm like this is 825 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: such a surreal moment because the volume's up, Kyle's weighing 826 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: in on I don't even know what You're probably being positive. 827 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: I don't even know either way, but like these guys, 828 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: and we always hear it from fans, like Latavius Murray 829 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: went out of his way to come on the show 830 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: because he said, I am a fan of that show 831 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: and if I'm ever in New York, I want to 832 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: come on. Like fan or not, they are watching it. 833 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: That one was surreal to see you on the screen 834 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: and Sherman and Thomas watching It's it's so real because 835 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: when I played, we would be at home or be 836 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: on the road, and we're sitting there the moments before 837 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: like the storm starts, where everybody's calm. You haven't been 838 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: through the week, your body's finally starting to bounce back. 839 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: You're trying to go over all these plays and execution 840 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: in your head. You're telling yourself how great you are, 841 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: and they want to feed you football. Like the coaches 842 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: don't want to put on anything else, even though it 843 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: probably what calms down if you put on Saturday Cartoons 844 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: or whatever it is, or even another sport. They pick 845 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: a network and they say watch yourself, and it's just 846 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: so happens that conversations are usually about the games, are 847 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 1: about the going. And I think it's strategic for coaches 848 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: because it's either gonna do one or two things. If 849 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: they're talking about you, it's gonna build you up, which 850 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: is great. They're talking bad about you, it's gonna make 851 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: you so mad. And I remember being in there and 852 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: watching just like that handsing. It's funny how you described it. 853 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: And you're done eating and you're just sitting there like quiet, 854 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: not really talking each other. Occasionally somebody, one of the 855 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: talking heads will say something about you or your squad. 856 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: You're leaning to your boy, be like, all right, we'll 857 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: see what happens tomorrow. It's so crazy, man. So it's 858 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: funny you say that. I don't even as a former player, 859 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: I don't like thinking people watch me. I don't like 860 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: thinking other players watch me. I have the reason I'm 861 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: comfortable around you guys and comfortable on TV, it's because 862 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: I would pretend that we're all along in the room 863 00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: talking about football. It really makes me nervous watch every 864 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,919 Speaker 1: single player and when they when I need a player 865 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: and he's like, yo, what's something They how you doing man, 866 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: you get are you really doing your thing? Hey? Bro, 867 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: every morning, every morning, every TV in a facility is 868 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: good morning Footballer. That's crazy. I think you're telling the 869 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: world the ball Powe's going to get one hundred targets 870 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: and then it gets picked up on hook and everywhere, 871 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: and the NFL is tweeting it out. It's really great. 872 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: Great podcast today. Good luck with your incentive Coyle brand. 873 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: The work starts now. Good luck with P ninety x 874 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: and the basement green tea. Right here, there's a thousand 875 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: calorie day seemed vegetables for dinner. Hey, you're two days 876 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: away from me five thousand calorie day. Apparently. I don't 877 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: know how this math works in your world, but I'm 878 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: excited to see the scale. Great stuff you guys can 879 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: down on our podcast on iTunes, NFL dot com, slash podcast, yeah, 880 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: and Google playing Stitcher. All right, See that's kin