Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3: I figured Russia's lost nine hundred thousand soldiers. I think
Speaker 3: that Ukraine's lost probably seven hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: And it's a terrible thing.
Speaker 3: You'll see body parts, bodies and body parts all.
Speaker 2: Over the field, all over.
Speaker 3: We see them through very accurately through satellites. I love Ukraine,
Speaker 3: but Zelensky has done a terrible job. His country is
Speaker 3: shattered and millions and millions of people have unnecessarily died.
Speaker 3: And you can't bring a war to an end if
Speaker 3: you don't talk to both sides.
Speaker 2: You got to talk.
Speaker 3: They haven't been talking for three years.
Speaker 2: Boy. So this is such an interesting topic and I
Speaker 2: can't wait to see how it plays out and read
Speaker 2: the books someday when the behind the scenes stuff is
Speaker 2: laid out, because I guarantee you his secretary of State
Speaker 2: doesn't agree with a lot of what his boss is saying.
Speaker 2: Right now. I'm hoping Trump has got some sort of
Speaker 2: three dimensional chess plan that's gonna wrap this up in
Speaker 2: some sort of way. But like I've been saying, if
Speaker 2: he just thinks, hey, this is Europe's war, it's not
Speaker 2: our war, I don't believe it's in our interest. I
Speaker 2: want it over. We're not supporting him anymore. I don't
Speaker 2: agree with that, but that's a policy decision, and he
Speaker 2: ran on that and he won, so you know, it
Speaker 2: is what it is. But I don't understand where you
Speaker 2: got a bad mouth to Zelensky and call him a
Speaker 2: crook and all this stuff on the way out the door,
Speaker 2: and especially because.
Speaker 1: It's like word for word the Kremlin's talking points about
Speaker 1: he's a dictator and refuses to have elections coming from
Speaker 1: Putin right, Seriously, how stupid are you if you fall
Speaker 1: for that? I mean, and honestly, is freely elected. His
Speaker 1: approval ratings are over fifty percent, and they're not allowed
Speaker 1: to have an election during wartime. So the idea that
Speaker 1: he's a dictator is just ridiculous. So I don't know
Speaker 1: what Trump is working at. I seriously, I'm so befuddled.
Speaker 2: Got some interesting info on that in a second from
Speaker 2: Mark Calprin's newsletter today as he talks a bunch of
Speaker 2: people behind the scenes. But the Financial Times is reporting
Speaker 2: that because we're coming up on the three year anniversary
Speaker 2: at the beginning of this thing, right, So the first
Speaker 2: couple of years, the G seven has put out a
Speaker 2: big statement about it. This year, the US is opposing
Speaker 2: calling Russia the aggressor. The aggressor. In the G seven
Speaker 2: statement on the third anniversary of the beginning of the war,
Speaker 2: it says here in the Financial Times, threatening to which
Speaker 2: is a lefty outfit, but threatening to derail a traditional
Speaker 2: show of unity. According to five Western officials familiar with
Speaker 2: the matter, I'm sure that's true. So Trump doesn't want
Speaker 2: the g doesn't want the United States involved in a
Speaker 2: statement where we call Russia the aggressor. I'm not exactly
Speaker 2: sure why. I hope it's some mass negotiating. Yeah. Again,
Speaker 2: I don't understand why the negotiating has to include bad
Speaker 2: mouthings Zelensky. Here's a little more. A Trump in Miami
Speaker 2: last night.
Speaker 3: On top of this, Zolenski admits that half of the
Speaker 3: money that we sent them is missing. They don't know
Speaker 3: where the money is. He said, well, we don't know
Speaker 3: where half of it is. Yes, great, wonderful. He refuses
Speaker 3: have elections is low and the real Ukrainian Poles. I mean,
Speaker 3: how can you be high with every city is being demolished.
Speaker 3: It's hard to be Somebody said, oh no, his polls
Speaker 3: are good.
Speaker 2: Give me a break. Every city is being demolished by who.
Speaker 2: They look like a.
Speaker 3: Demolition site, every single one of them. And the only
Speaker 3: thing he was really good at was playing Joe Biden
Speaker 3: like a fiddle. He played them like a fiddle. That's
Speaker 3: an expression we use, yes, sir, to say that he's
Speaker 3: pretty easy, pretty easy.
Speaker 2: This hole. It's your fault. Your cities are rubble because
Speaker 2: a country attacked you, and you're doing your best to
Speaker 2: stop them from turning your cities into double because obviously
Speaker 2: you don't want that to happen, but you can't stop
Speaker 2: them because you're the you know, you're the small country.
Speaker 2: It's your fault. You should pay a political price. I
Speaker 2: don't even know.
Speaker 1: I don't understand the logic of this at all, but well, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm hoping it will emerge. And I know you're
Speaker 1: about to get to that. But as I've said before,
Speaker 1: there are things Trump does that I uh that we're
Speaker 1: on the same side of. I agree with one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: and he utterly butchers explaining it to the point that
Speaker 1: if you don't know exactly what he's talking about, you
Speaker 1: have no idea what he's talking about.
Speaker 2: And I hope this is one of those. So here's
Speaker 2: some uh Mark Awpern's newsletter today. Lost in nearly all
Speaker 2: of the dominant media coverage of Donald Trump's efforts to
Speaker 2: end the war between Ukraine and Russia are these ten points.
Speaker 2: One Ending the war is not easy and won't be pretty. Yeah,
Speaker 2: people need to realize that. Two. Trump ran on ending
Speaker 2: the war. Like I said a little bit ago. Three
Speaker 2: tens of millions of Americas, of Americans from major Maggot to
Speaker 2: Sanders supporters want the war to end. Did see some
Speaker 2: polling the other day it's getting close to fifty to
Speaker 2: fifty on support for Ukraine. So four. Trump's long standing
Speaker 2: pro putin rhetoric is really impossible to explain or justify.
Speaker 2: But it didn't keep the Maven of mar A Lago
Speaker 2: from being tough on Russia as president the first time around. Sanctions,
Speaker 2: pipeline cancelation, et cetera. Right, and at least so far.
Speaker 2: I read this last week kind of lost in the
Speaker 2: shuffle of you know, the the the everybody, oh my god,
Speaker 2: Trump said, Zelensky caused this, which is another thing to
Speaker 2: say to me, he didn't, hasn't canceled a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of arms and money that's still going there. So something
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know what that is. Number six,
Speaker 2: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris built a military and a
Speaker 2: diplomatic coalition to halt Putin's march to Kiev, but they
Speaker 2: had no plan to end the war on any terms.
Speaker 2: Not a minor point. How is this going to play out?
Speaker 2: Of Kamala Harris won just keep dripping along, barely, keeping
Speaker 2: them afloat for some reason because it looked like it
Speaker 2: looked bad if we didn't or something.
Speaker 1: I can't even indulge in the what if Kamala had
Speaker 1: won fantasy for more than like thirty seconds, because it's
Speaker 1: so sickening to me, just.
Speaker 2: In every single way. And they were.
Speaker 1: They were a miserable, miserable failure at foreign policy, no
Speaker 1: question about it. That doesn't mean every single thing they
Speaker 1: did was wrong, but yeah, it's true they had no plan.
Speaker 2: So see how it goes and hope. So Halpurn pointing
Speaker 2: out Biden Harris had no plan to end the war,
Speaker 2: and he also says number six, Zelenski, he's skilled it
Speaker 2: to media and has had Churchillian moments, but he has
Speaker 2: no plan to end the war on any terms. What
Speaker 2: are you gonna do number seven except defeat? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I don't. I don't think it's an indictment of it. No,
Speaker 2: But but Trump has a plan to end the war. Biden,
Speaker 2: Harris didn't, Zelenski doesn't. Right. Uh seven. There's no way
Speaker 2: to end the war without giving putin something and maybe
Speaker 2: quite a bit, including things that no civilized person would
Speaker 2: want to bestow upon a thug who did what he did.
Speaker 2: But there's just no other way to end the war.
Speaker 2: That's just freaking reality, which I hate in the current
Speaker 2: state of things, but it is true. I love this one.
Speaker 2: Number eight. The coddling of Europe militarily, diplomatically, economically by
Speaker 2: every recent president not named Trump is one of the
Speaker 2: great foreign policy debacles in the history of the United States.
Speaker 1: Right right, Even as an Obama for instance, or even
Speaker 1: a Bush or or a Biden would would say, hey,
Speaker 1: y'all got to step up, you got to do better,
Speaker 1: but that was as far as it went. It was
Speaker 1: the you know, the parent in the grocery store. Stop that, Johnny.
Speaker 1: Stop that, Johnny. Stop that Johnny. There's no enforcement or twist.
Speaker 2: And when Trump first term came along and made a
Speaker 2: big deal of them not paying their you know, the
Speaker 2: amount of the on their military they're supposed to with
Speaker 2: their NATO agreement. Oh my god, he wants to destroy NATO.
Speaker 2: He's not supporting our allies. I like Mark Alpern's a
Speaker 2: judgment that our coddling of Europe on these issues is
Speaker 2: one of the great foreign policy debacles in the history
Speaker 2: of the United States, and that might play out in
Speaker 2: a giant way that makes history books, you know, in
Speaker 2: a decade or something, in a way we don't want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeap, Europe had to be dependent on the US
Speaker 1: post WW two. But like a thirty three year old
Speaker 1: living in their parents' basement, we never cut off the teat.
Speaker 1: We never said, hey, you got to stand on your
Speaker 1: own and stand up as an equal and an ally
Speaker 1: and quit you know, gloming off of us.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely true. And also this Trump and his foreign
Speaker 2: policy national security team might be blundering into a colossal
Speaker 2: error on Ukraine. But the above list, all the things
Speaker 2: we just mentioned suggests that they should be given a
Speaker 2: chance to prove they know what they're doing this. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of complex pieces involved in all those things
Speaker 2: were true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of nuance to this. I mean because,
Speaker 1: for instance, the G seven statement not listing Russia as
Speaker 1: an aggressor seems ridiculous, ridiculous, but the statement was abandoning
Speaker 1: the traditional show of unity. And if JD Vance were
Speaker 1: to call the show, first of all, JD thanks for listening.
Speaker 1: But if you were to call and say, hey, what
Speaker 1: is your traditional show of unity gotten you so far?
Speaker 1: I would have to say, well, not much in the
Speaker 1: way of concrete results other than draining Russia's resources. That's
Speaker 1: not a reason though, to make up crap and repeat
Speaker 1: Kremlin talking points.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's not one hundred percent ridiculous. So
Speaker 2: we never actually got around to some of these tweets
Speaker 2: from a former member of Zelensky's administration. He tweeted this
Speaker 2: out the other day about what's going on right now.
Speaker 2: We have always lived in this reality. We just didn't
Speaker 2: want to admit. The difference between Biden and Trump is
Speaker 2: that Trump says out loud what Biden was thinking and
Speaker 2: doing about Ukraine. Biden was against NATO, expansion, against providing
Speaker 2: Ukraine with enough support to retake occupied territories when it
Speaker 2: was still possible, and against strong sanctions on Russia. Trump
Speaker 2: was just making it explicit. Biden stood with Ukraine in
Speaker 2: the war as long as it took for him to
Speaker 2: leave office, but without giving them enough aid to win.
Speaker 2: Trump wants to end the war, but it is not
Speaker 2: going to provide the aid either, But Biden was not
Speaker 2: going to provide the aid if he stuck around. At
Speaker 2: the same time, this guy, former Zelenski, a cabinet member,
Speaker 2: said Trump isn't cutting off military support that's already in
Speaker 2: place so far, which a point I made already, and
Speaker 2: previous US presidents have followed a similar policy. They didn't
Speaker 2: provide serious military aid, didn't impose tough sanctions, for example
Speaker 2: after CRIMEA, Bush and Obama letting Putin get away with
Speaker 2: various things, and didn't bring Ukraine into NATO, despite constant
Speaker 2: statements about support and future possibilities. So to a certain extent,
Speaker 2: Trump is just doing well. He's doing the same thing.
Speaker 2: He's just saying it, and that's what he's getting so
Speaker 2: much grief for, except for the stuff. And this is
Speaker 2: why I wish he'd lead out the why you got
Speaker 2: a bad mouth Zolensky and call him a mediocre comedian
Speaker 2: and a thug and a dictator. I don't understand that
Speaker 2: at all. I have no explanation for why that has
Speaker 2: to be part of it.
Speaker 1: It's a temper tantrum because Zelensky challenged him on not
Speaker 1: being at the talks and some of the other stuff
Speaker 1: he'd said.
Speaker 2: So Trump had a tantrum. But if you leave that out,
Speaker 2: Trump could say, I Biden wasn't going to do anything
Speaker 2: any different. He just wasn't. He was going to pretend
Speaker 2: he was going to keep saying We're with you till
Speaker 2: the end while not doing anything that was going to
Speaker 2: lead to a better outcome that we're going to end
Speaker 2: up with me as more people die.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's absolutely a defensible position when you describe it
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: But that only works if you leave out the bad mouthings.
Speaker 2: Lens Game claiming that Ukraine started it.
Speaker 1: For some which is one of the most bizarre things
Speaker 1: I've ever heard in my life. You know, the whole
Speaker 1: there are There was part of the foreign policy establishment
Speaker 1: that back in the twenty teens was saying, hey, don't
Speaker 1: be leading Ukraine down the primrose path. Is the one
Speaker 1: diplomat put it that they're going to just come over
Speaker 1: to NATO and go with the West and it's going
Speaker 1: to be fine and dandy because Russia is going to
Speaker 1: go crazy over that.
Speaker 2: And indeed there was a lot of truth to that.
Speaker 1: But to stay and again, sometimes when Trump is doing
Speaker 1: the right thing, he describes it so badly it's impossible
Speaker 1: to know what is thinking. Is But for a generation
Speaker 1: of Ukrainians to say, you're giving us a choice between
Speaker 1: the thug kleptocracy of Kremlin or being part of the
Speaker 1: West with free markets, human rights, free speech, et cetera,
Speaker 1: we want that second one to suggest that that provoked
Speaker 1: Russia to invade them.
Speaker 2: To me is well, it's a pilot crap. We'll see
Speaker 2: how this plays out over the coming days, weeks, months, years,
Speaker 2: and centuries as it all fits. No, we won't. I'll
Speaker 2: be dead. Well, maybe you'll be I got planned. Okay,
Speaker 2: right after a lot more in the way. Stay here
Speaker 2: Delta confirming that it is offering thirty thousand dollars to
Speaker 2: each passenger, no strings attached, and only one person remains
Speaker 2: in the hospital. Yeah, so here's thirty thousand dollars. Sorry,
Speaker 2: we landed upside down. Okay, So is that so you
Speaker 2: don't sue them? You probably have to sign some sort
Speaker 2: of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I suspect it's a preemptive settlement. It's not clear
Speaker 1: exactly what caused it yet. I'm really curious to hear
Speaker 1: that I've gone deep into the helicopters slash airplane wreck
Speaker 1: at Reagan National Man multiples grew ups multiple.
Speaker 2: Sorry about that landing upside down thing. Here's a here's
Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars. Let's can we still be friends? Yes, Katie?
Speaker 1: Well, technically as they landed right side up then flipped
Speaker 1: upside down.
Speaker 2: So at least they didn't give them like a voucher
Speaker 2: for a free flight, right, why did they do that?
Speaker 2: Or or worse like, sorry, we ruined your entire Christmas
Speaker 2: and you're not gonna get to your family. Here's a
Speaker 2: free drink on the next flight drink coupon. Yeah, basically,
Speaker 2: here's four dollars.
Speaker 4: I'd be okay with having a tire pop if I
Speaker 4: got a thousand bucks out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, can you scale these down? I don't want
Speaker 2: to make that trade of the plane flips upside down?
Speaker 2: I'm hanging upside down. There are flames and smoke, and
Speaker 2: then I get thirty thousand dollars, but maybe for three
Speaker 2: thousand dollars a bag falls on my head. Wow, I
Speaker 2: don't take it worse like that. I'll be okay, see
Speaker 2: your point.
Speaker 1: So coming up some some very fun, lighthearted stuff I
Speaker 1: have about the you know, consumer issues. Also freaking moss
Speaker 1: handing over the bodies of four Israeli hostages, two beautiful
Speaker 1: little children, an eighty four year old peace activist who
Speaker 1: advocated coexistence with Palestinians. Just just terrible. Just see the
Speaker 1: story about the hero dog that passed away America's most
Speaker 1: decorated Special Forces as Secret Service dog, beautiful Melanoi black
Speaker 1: and just oh seeing him with his handler who loved him.
Speaker 1: And since my dog is old and sick and who
Speaker 1: knows how long he's gonna last, very touching, but man.
Speaker 2: I love dogs anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this dog had performed all sorts of great services
Speaker 1: and feats of daring do like he was trained to do,
Speaker 1: including when that guy got onto the White House grounds
Speaker 1: when Obama was in office, I think, and charging towards
Speaker 1: the White House. This is the dog that said no
Speaker 1: you're not. Oh yeah, and brought him down Beautiful beast too. Anyway,
Speaker 1: on a much less positive note, I was just going
Speaker 1: through email during the commercial break. Can we have some
Speaker 1: sort of national intervention. Maybe Trump can have Elon Musk
Speaker 1: take a couple of days on this to talk to
Speaker 1: the people who reflexively reply all to group emails, including
Speaker 1: I'm part of an organization, the guy said at the
Speaker 1: end of the email, reply to me only thanks. Five
Speaker 1: minutes later, mister reply all hits everybody with his whether
Speaker 1: he'll be there or not and the rest.
Speaker 2: They had a couple of comments. What drives that you
Speaker 2: feel like everybody see your comment?
Speaker 1: I think it is not fifty to fifty, but part
Speaker 1: of the group is old people who don't understand the
Speaker 1: difference between reply all in reply could be honestly and secondly,
Speaker 1: God who likes other people to hear his conversation full
Speaker 1: see in the midline of the grocery store restaurants.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're absolutely right, it's that person which they're annoying
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 5: So Los Angeles mayor Karen Bass, still trying to mitigate
Speaker 5: the fallout of her much criticized handling of the historic
Speaker 5: wildfires in La. She is now and apparently started an
Speaker 5: investigation into why she claims no one told her not
Speaker 5: to go on that infamous trip to Ghana ahead of
Speaker 5: the deadly fire storm.
Speaker 2: This is the problem with you being old, the Karen Bass.
Speaker 2: If you were younger, you would realize the news cycle
Speaker 2: on this passed so many days ago. All you did
Speaker 2: was remind people that you took off and stayed gone
Speaker 2: during the worst of disaster in California history.
Speaker 1: Right outside of Greater La, people had moved on to
Speaker 1: other fair But oh, that's right, the mayor of LA
Speaker 1: was taking some sort of pleasure junks, even though the
Speaker 1: fire danger was crazy high, and she'd got at the
Speaker 1: budget and left the city unprepared for a natural disaster.
Speaker 2: Everybody knew what was coming, right, You can't just not
Speaker 2: travel every fire season because there might be a fire.
Speaker 2: Once she was there and the fire started, she stayed
Speaker 2: till the end of the dang thing. That's the ground rime.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Union Lackey slash goon phony progressive Karen Bass.
Speaker 2: Okay, so now she's gonna get to the bottom of this.
Speaker 2: How was I not told? She wants to know. Next clip, it.
Speaker 4: Was going to be a very very short trip over
Speaker 4: a weekend and two business days. Although there were warnings
Speaker 4: that I frankly wasn't aware of. Although there were warnings,
Speaker 4: I think our preparation it wasn't what it typically is.
Speaker 2: What do you mean there were warnings you weren't aware
Speaker 2: of because I know we were talking about it on
Speaker 2: the news.
Speaker 4: It didn't reach that level to me to say something
Speaker 4: terrible could happen and maybe you shouldn't have gone on
Speaker 4: the trip.
Speaker 2: Why didn't it to me? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that that's one of the things
Speaker 4: we need to look at.
Speaker 1: This is straight out of the Gavy Newsom playbook. In California,
Speaker 1: under the one party benevolent leadership of the Democrats, these
Speaker 1: terrible problems happen, and then they vow angry to get
Speaker 1: right to the bottom of how this happened.
Speaker 2: Who let this happen? We're going to root out the evil?
Speaker 2: Why exactly? I've never been so many Can you see
Speaker 2: how many home most people we've got here.
Speaker 1: I've never been so angry. This can't stand exactly. Back
Speaker 1: to Charlie Painter's report.
Speaker 5: This fire Department is responding sternly to the Mayor's claims
Speaker 5: she was not warned say the department followed all standard
Speaker 5: preparation procedures.
Speaker 1: Quote.
Speaker 5: Prior to the Palisades fire, the LAFD email, two separate
Speaker 5: media advisories conducted multiple live and recorded media interviews about
Speaker 5: the predicted extra fire weather and notified city officials about
Speaker 5: the upcoming weather event.
Speaker 1: She's a lying piece of crap, I think is the
Speaker 1: bottom line here, lying union lackey piece of crap. Keep
Speaker 1: voting the same way, folks, and wait for that different result.
Speaker 2: To come down the line. Tell you what. Okay, we
Speaker 2: got a couple of responses of the one of the
Speaker 2: stories of the day, definitely the week. Now, like I said,
Speaker 2: maybe year, decade, or century is how this whole thing
Speaker 2: between Ukraine and Russia is going to handle it? And uh,
Speaker 2: you know why is Trump claiming Ukraine started it in
Speaker 2: bad mouthing Zelensky. So a couple of thoughts on all
Speaker 2: of this that I thought were interesting. And then I've
Speaker 2: got a couple too that I thought were quite compelling.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I won't say who's this from, but somebody we work with.
Speaker 2: Does bashing Zelensky make it so Putin will come to
Speaker 2: the table. I was thinking about that. Actually, Trump has
Speaker 2: worked with a lot of probably mobsters in trying to
Speaker 2: get deals done in New York over the years, and
Speaker 2: the extent to where you had to make them feel
Speaker 2: like the tough guy and the you know, the guy
Speaker 2: who calls the shots all the time and everything to
Speaker 2: do business with them at all and get what you
Speaker 2: wanted probably somewhat similar to Putin.
Speaker 1: It could be the only thing that bothers me about
Speaker 1: that is that Putin's a reptile. And if you bad
Speaker 1: mouthed Zelensky to make Putin feel like there's a chance
Speaker 1: of a deal, Putin is thinking, Okay, now he's bad
Speaker 1: mouthing Zolensky to make me think there's a better chance
Speaker 1: of a deal. Possibly you're not gonna outplay Putin at poker.
Speaker 2: On the other side of it, Zolensky, we got this text.
Speaker 2: Zelensky has to convince his people that he had no
Speaker 2: choice but to accept a deal that gives Russia crimean
Speaker 2: don boss, and he needs to blame the US for
Speaker 2: putting Ukraine in an a possible position where this was
Speaker 2: the best and only outcome. I wouldn't be surprised at all.
Speaker 2: I don't know by it. I don't agree with this,
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't write this text. I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 2: it off. Zilinsky and his team requested of Trump that
Speaker 2: they behave like this publicly to cover Zelensky's needs. The
Speaker 2: likely resolution of this conflict hasn't changed since six months
Speaker 2: into it. He needs cover for agreeing to it. That
Speaker 2: happens sometimes in international uh politics. We all know that
Speaker 2: that was kind of happening between Biby and bb and
Speaker 2: Net and Yaho. I think where he'd say I gave
Speaker 2: a s turn talking to BB Nett Yaho and then
Speaker 2: they'd send him a bunch of planes and bombs. Oh Biden,
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So so that point of view you just read, it's
Speaker 1: not the crack pop No, no, absolutely not. My only
Speaker 1: criticism of it, I don't agree with it, but it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a reasonable point of view is that I
Speaker 1: don't think Zelinski has the slightest interest in staying in
Speaker 1: power past.
Speaker 2: No, you know, whatever juncture he can't. No, God, I
Speaker 2: think he's an actual patriot. I've got one more either way,
Speaker 2: one more. Uh. This is pushing back to the whole
Speaker 2: NATO thing that you brought up earlier. I don't think
Speaker 2: Charles c. W of National Review was listening, but he
Speaker 2: was arguing with people who make that argument that Ukraine
Speaker 2: and US did start the war by talking about Ukraine
Speaker 2: being part of NATO. Alaska became a state ten years
Speaker 2: after NATO was founded. That was a provocative NATO expansion.
Speaker 2: We made Alaska a state so we would have territory there,
Speaker 2: keep an eye on Russia to be able to have
Speaker 2: a military base. All that sort of stuff. Was that
Speaker 2: provocative if Russia had gone to war with US, or
Speaker 2: we to blame if they had attacked us or whatever.
Speaker 1: The problem that I have with that point of view,
Speaker 1: and again, it's not insane, it's just that it always
Speaker 1: underestimates the cost of being passive or submissive or not
Speaker 1: being robust.
Speaker 2: Right. They always act as if if we weren't mean,
Speaker 2: nobody would be Yeah, exactly, exactly, yeah, and yeah. That
Speaker 2: oversimplifies your argument and it saves me time. Though, more
Speaker 2: and more and more thing from Charles c. W. Cook.
Speaker 2: He said, rumors now that Trump is playing seven dimensional chess.
Speaker 2: I love Charlotte.
Speaker 1: So got this from Moe, longtime correspondent listener as a
Speaker 1: militant Magas supporter. I too am baffled by WTF Trump
Speaker 1: is doing with Ukraine. I do agree with and support
Speaker 1: the position that Ukraine and Zelensky are corrupt, et cetera.
Speaker 1: I have two very brief answers to that, and the
Speaker 1: first part is not I'm not trying to blow my
Speaker 1: horn or anything like this, but my giant senior project
Speaker 1: way back in school was was about the Soviet republics
Speaker 1: that were not Russia, and then when they crumbled right
Speaker 1: after I got graduated, it's been so interesting to watch
Speaker 1: how they have assimilated mostly into the West and have
Speaker 1: moved beyond the Soviet style of communism corruption into a
Speaker 1: more Western way of doing business. And it's been halting
Speaker 1: and imperfect. It always is. The Yes, there continues to
Speaker 1: be corruption because the only way to get ahead in
Speaker 1: the communist system is to be corrupt, essentially, and so
Speaker 1: working through that is a really difficult thing. The second
Speaker 1: caveat I would throw in is that profiteering and wartime
Speaker 1: are like inhaling and exhaling. They have never existed without
Speaker 1: each other.
Speaker 2: Ever.
Speaker 1: It was one of Lincoln and Stanton's greatest challenges during
Speaker 1: the Civil War. The extent to which profiteers in the
Speaker 1: North and the Union were screwing the government and making
Speaker 1: it harder to end the war. So to point out
Speaker 1: waste and some fraud during wartime as some sort of
Speaker 1: proof positive that therefore Zelensky's a bad guy and must go.
Speaker 2: It's just not the way it works. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: that's so much chaos. That's all true, but I'm not
Speaker 2: sure why it matters anyway. We went to war with
Speaker 2: Iraq first time around because they invaded Kuwait, which was
Speaker 2: not a democracy. If if Saudi Arabia got attacked by Iran,
Speaker 2: we'd be on Saudi Arabia's side and fight with them.
Speaker 2: They're not a democracy. They're all kinds of corrupt and
Speaker 2: everything it doesn't run. If Ukraine is friendly to the
Speaker 2: United States, we can't live in a world where a
Speaker 2: country that's an enemy of Europe and the United States
Speaker 2: gets to invade it, right right.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, it's a good conversation and dissent
Speaker 1: is more than welcome. You know, you can drop us
Speaker 1: an email, mail bag at armstrong in getty dot com
Speaker 1: or a text four to one five two nine five KFTC.
Speaker 1: Disagreement makes my ideas stronger or convinces me that yours
Speaker 1: are better. You're doing us a favor by disagreeing anyway.
Speaker 1: But Moe goes on to say one thing Trump said
Speaker 1: in the incredibly good interview with Musk on Hannity, and
Speaker 1: it was super informative and entertaining.
Speaker 2: I would agree in.
Speaker 1: The course of a fairly casual conversation, he said, I
Speaker 1: believe I have the power to end the war.
Speaker 2: If I do, I should do it.
Speaker 1: And Trump has said many things that strike me as
Speaker 1: sincere to indicate his horror at the human cost of
Speaker 1: the war, and he honestly thinks, I think that somebody
Speaker 1: needs to end it because it's horrific and it's needless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that gets to that point. We mentioned a couple
Speaker 2: of times, it's not gonna there's not gonna be a
Speaker 2: better outcome. All you'll end up with was many, many,
Speaker 2: many more dead people on both sides. There's truth there. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: Run your game. My fingernails are the longest they've ever
Speaker 2: been in my life, and I'm disgusted by it. Are
Speaker 2: you homeless? Do you need a place to stay? Yes, Katie,
Speaker 2: I was just wondering if you've ever heard of nail clippers, right,
Speaker 2: So that was that was insulting. I had nail clippers.
Speaker 2: I've never used them much throughout my life because I
Speaker 2: have the really bad habit of chewing my nails. I've
Speaker 2: always had it, yeah, and I've gotten away from it
Speaker 2: a couple of times with just a little bit of discipline,
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to do it again. But I keep
Speaker 2: forgetting to trim my nails because it's not part of
Speaker 2: my routine since you know, I keep them chewed to
Speaker 2: a nub anyway usually. But now they're really long, clean,
Speaker 2: not like Bob Dylan in the movie or Timothy Chalet
Speaker 2: in the movie. Watch that, and that's a very accurate thing.
Speaker 2: If you go to the Bob Dylan movie, his portrayal
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan with the long, dirty fingernails is accurate. But
Speaker 2: how do you play guitar like that? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Long fingernails are anathema to playing guitar. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I need to buy clippers. It's gross. I've always
Speaker 2: I've never trusted guys with long fingernails.
Speaker 1: Well, if you need to borrow the two dollars, come
Speaker 1: to me. We can start to gofund me and they're
Speaker 1: available everywhere.
Speaker 2: So do you swallow the nails? Oh? Oh, Michael, A
Speaker 2: good question but disgusting. Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: My fingernails are so like thick and hard. I don't
Speaker 1: think I could choose them off. Have you been spitting
Speaker 1: them in jail all these years when I turned my back, idiot?
Speaker 2: One of the reasons. And it's a terrible habit, not
Speaker 2: an uncommon one, but a terrible habit, especially as an adult.
Speaker 2: But I have a family member with OCD who choose
Speaker 2: them down to bloody and just can't stop. And so
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that by you know, because you know, doing
Speaker 2: that in front of him is not helping with trying
Speaker 2: to convince him. It's a bad idea once again, an
Speaker 2: example of having kids making you a better person because
Speaker 2: you have to live up to various things you believe in.
Speaker 2: As an example, so annoying. That would be so freeing
Speaker 2: once they go and I can go back to old
Speaker 2: mestre eating nail bite and Jack crosswalking, all kinds of things.
Speaker 1: Wow, jaywalking rather a So what do we want to
Speaker 1: do next? I have many, many options.
Speaker 2: There's some more because they did a two day version
Speaker 2: of Elon and Trump together on Hannity and they had
Speaker 2: another round of them, and some are pretty good, including
Speaker 2: our I'd love to hear that maybe the clip of
Speaker 2: the year. We've played it a couple of times already.
Speaker 2: It could end up being the clip of the year,
Speaker 2: just because it matters so much to us.
Speaker 1: That would be Elon's second win, by the way, unprecedented.
Speaker 2: Wow. Well, you know, things are getting weird, and they
Speaker 2: getting weird fast. That was clip of the year two
Speaker 2: years ago. Stay with us.
Speaker 6: I really want to I really want to emphasize to
Speaker 6: people that that's a very important point. If we don't
Speaker 6: solve the deficit, there won't be money for medical care,
Speaker 6: they won't be moneyful for Social Security. We either solve
Speaker 6: the deficit, all we'll be doing is paying debt.
Speaker 2: It'd be a pretty dry clip of the year, but
Speaker 2: it's gonna be. It's I guarantee it's going to be
Speaker 2: in the running, just because it's so flipping true and important.
Speaker 1: And the fact that him saying that out loud is
Speaker 1: novel and surprising just is shock.
Speaker 2: I know the answer to this, but I'm going to
Speaker 2: say it anyway. Why does every single news report about
Speaker 2: Elon Musk include the phrase world's richest men? Because news
Speaker 2: is for stupid people? Or I don't know. Well, I
Speaker 2: think they're trying to insinuate some sort of untortinous and
Speaker 2: that he's cutting things while being the richest man in
Speaker 2: the world, and that's supposed to be ironic or scary
Speaker 2: or something scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we well, in ironic, Yeah for dumb people.
Speaker 2: Again. Ah, it's obvious.
Speaker 1: And this has been well documented that our society has
Speaker 1: gone from admiring success and hoping to emulate it to
Speaker 1: wanting to demonize it and acting like being successful is
Speaker 1: self evident proof of being a bad person. It's a
Speaker 1: very socialist, awful way to approach life.
Speaker 2: But this was a part two of the Hannity Interview
Speaker 2: first interview with Trump and Elon together last night, and
Speaker 2: you probably haven't heard a lot of this. So here's
Speaker 2: a little more.
Speaker 6: Provided the economy grows faster than the money supply, which
Speaker 6: means you stop the government over spending in the waste
Speaker 6: and the output of real useful goods and services exceeds
Speaker 6: the increase in the money supply. You have no inflation,
Speaker 6: and you also drop the interest payments that that people
Speaker 6: pay because if the government waves youuly. Yes, the reason
Speaker 6: the interest paiments are so high is because the national
Speaker 6: debt keeps increasing, so the government is competing to sell
Speaker 6: debt with with the private citizens.
Speaker 2: This drives up the interest rate. So if you have a.
Speaker 6: If you cut back on the deficit, you actually have
Speaker 6: an amazing situation for people because you get rid of
Speaker 6: inflation and you drop the interest rates.
Speaker 2: Yep, which one you want to know?
Speaker 1: Let's go with twenty six. Trump was talking about media
Speaker 1: so many people. You know, you're talking about the radical left.
Speaker 1: They have the lowest ratings. Ms NBC is dying, CNN
Speaker 1: is dying. They're all dying. The New York Times.
Speaker 3: Is doing a lousy The Washington Post is doing horribly.
Speaker 3: They're all doing badly because people don't buy it anymore.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: Well, let's let CNN respond and the person of Kara
Speaker 1: Swisher twenty eight.
Speaker 2: Michael, it's like a sequel to I Love You Man,
Speaker 2: but bad like a bad one. It feels like a
Speaker 2: buddy comedy. It's very it's a very it's Ron camm
Speaker 2: in some way.
Speaker 3: Although it's not funny, it's very it's a very strang
Speaker 3: I thought, I thought George Bush, if I used his term,
Speaker 3: that was that was weird.
Speaker 2: That was some weird ass. Yeah, some weird stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, it's funny.
Speaker 1: I can hardly even get myself worked up to be,
Speaker 1: you know, annoyed with CNN and MSNBC anymore. They're just
Speaker 1: such clowns and their significance is dropping so steadily. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: if you and your thirty one viewers enjoyed that. There
Speaker 1: they are talking seriously and soberly about America's debt problem
Speaker 1: and the damage it will do and how to solve it.
Speaker 1: And all you've got is that was like a sequel
Speaker 1: to I Love You man, Who's weird? And that was
Speaker 1: some weird ass? No wonder you're going away? You're terrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I've been saying this now for By the way,
Speaker 2: today is the one month anniversary of Trump becoming President
Speaker 2: of the United States. Does it seem like he's been
Speaker 2: president for a month? God, how many presidents have happened
Speaker 2: in US history where nothing happened in the first month.
Speaker 2: I mean nothing.
Speaker 1: The Carl Rove wrote an Interest In column saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: Trump's gotta slow down some so the American people know
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Celebrate the victory at the border, tour
Speaker 1: the border straight states, talk to the governors because news
Speaker 1: junkies know what's happening, but the average American might not
Speaker 1: have noticed yet.
Speaker 2: I think he had a decent point. Oh, I think
Speaker 2: there's all kinds. There's a small thing slipping by, whether
Speaker 2: it's you know, getting rid of plastic paper straws, or
Speaker 2: maybe the trains sports thinger, just because there's so many
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