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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty and he Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 3: I figured Russia's lost nine hundred thousand soldiers. I think

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Speaker 3: that Ukraine's lost probably seven hundred thousand.

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Speaker 2: And it's a terrible thing.

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Speaker 3: You'll see body parts, bodies and body parts all.

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Speaker 2: Over the field, all over.

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Speaker 3: We see them through very accurately through satellites. I love Ukraine,

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Speaker 3: but Zelensky has done a terrible job. His country is

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Speaker 3: shattered and millions and millions of people have unnecessarily died.

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Speaker 3: And you can't bring a war to an end if

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Speaker 3: you don't talk to both sides.

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Speaker 2: You got to talk.

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Speaker 3: They haven't been talking for three years.

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Speaker 2: Boy. So this is such an interesting topic and I

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Speaker 2: can't wait to see how it plays out and read

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Speaker 2: the books someday when the behind the scenes stuff is

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Speaker 2: laid out, because I guarantee you his secretary of State

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Speaker 2: doesn't agree with a lot of what his boss is saying.

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Speaker 2: Right now. I'm hoping Trump has got some sort of

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Speaker 2: three dimensional chess plan that's gonna wrap this up in

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Speaker 2: some sort of way. But like I've been saying, if

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Speaker 2: he just thinks, hey, this is Europe's war, it's not

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Speaker 2: our war, I don't believe it's in our interest. I

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Speaker 2: want it over. We're not supporting him anymore. I don't

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Speaker 2: agree with that, but that's a policy decision, and he

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Speaker 2: ran on that and he won, so you know, it

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Speaker 2: is what it is. But I don't understand where you

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Speaker 2: got a bad mouth to Zelensky and call him a

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Speaker 2: crook and all this stuff on the way out the door,

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Speaker 2: and especially because.

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Speaker 1: It's like word for word the Kremlin's talking points about

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Speaker 1: he's a dictator and refuses to have elections coming from

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Speaker 1: Putin right, Seriously, how stupid are you if you fall

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Speaker 1: for that? I mean, and honestly, is freely elected. His

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Speaker 1: approval ratings are over fifty percent, and they're not allowed

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Speaker 1: to have an election during wartime. So the idea that

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Speaker 1: he's a dictator is just ridiculous. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: what Trump is working at. I seriously, I'm so befuddled.

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Speaker 2: Got some interesting info on that in a second from

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Speaker 2: Mark Calprin's newsletter today as he talks a bunch of

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Speaker 2: people behind the scenes. But the Financial Times is reporting

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Speaker 2: that because we're coming up on the three year anniversary

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Speaker 2: at the beginning of this thing, right, So the first

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Speaker 2: couple of years, the G seven has put out a

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Speaker 2: big statement about it. This year, the US is opposing

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Speaker 2: calling Russia the aggressor. The aggressor. In the G seven

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Speaker 2: statement on the third anniversary of the beginning of the war,

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Speaker 2: it says here in the Financial Times, threatening to which

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Speaker 2: is a lefty outfit, but threatening to derail a traditional

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Speaker 2: show of unity. According to five Western officials familiar with

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Speaker 2: the matter, I'm sure that's true. So Trump doesn't want

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Speaker 2: the g doesn't want the United States involved in a

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Speaker 2: statement where we call Russia the aggressor. I'm not exactly

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Speaker 2: sure why. I hope it's some mass negotiating. Yeah. Again,

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why the negotiating has to include bad

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Speaker 2: mouthings Zelensky. Here's a little more. A Trump in Miami

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Speaker 3: On top of this, Zolenski admits that half of the

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Speaker 3: money that we sent them is missing. They don't know

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Speaker 3: where the money is. He said, well, we don't know

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Speaker 3: where half of it is. Yes, great, wonderful. He refuses

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Speaker 3: have elections is low and the real Ukrainian Poles. I mean,

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Speaker 3: how can you be high with every city is being demolished.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to be Somebody said, oh no, his polls

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Speaker 2: Give me a break. Every city is being demolished by who.

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Speaker 3: Demolition site, every single one of them. And the only

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Speaker 3: thing he was really good at was playing Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: like a fiddle. He played them like a fiddle. That's

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Speaker 2: This hole. It's your fault. Your cities are rubble because

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Speaker 2: a country attacked you, and you're doing your best to

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Speaker 2: stop them from turning your cities into double because obviously

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Speaker 2: them because you're the you know, you're the small country.

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Speaker 2: It's your fault. You should pay a political price. I

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Speaker 1: I don't understand the logic of this at all, but well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I hope this is one of those. So here's

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Speaker 2: some uh Mark Awpern's newsletter today. Lost in nearly all

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Speaker 2: of the dominant media coverage of Donald Trump's efforts to

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Speaker 2: end the war between Ukraine and Russia are these ten points.

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Speaker 2: One Ending the war is not easy and won't be pretty. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: people need to realize that. Two. Trump ran on ending

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Speaker 2: the war. Like I said a little bit ago. Three

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Speaker 2: tens of millions of Americas, of Americans from major Maggot to

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Speaker 2: Sanders supporters want the war to end. Did see some

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Speaker 2: polling the other day it's getting close to fifty to

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Speaker 2: fifty on support for Ukraine. So four. Trump's long standing

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Speaker 2: pro putin rhetoric is really impossible to explain or justify.

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Speaker 2: But it didn't keep the Maven of mar A Lago

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Speaker 2: I read this last week kind of lost in the

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Speaker 2: Trump said, Zelensky caused this, which is another thing to

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't know what that is. Number six,

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris built a military and a

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Speaker 2: diplomatic coalition to halt Putin's march to Kiev, but they

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Speaker 2: had no plan to end the war on any terms.

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Speaker 2: Not a minor point. How is this going to play out?

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Speaker 2: Of Kamala Harris won just keep dripping along, barely, keeping

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Speaker 1: I can't even indulge in the what if Kamala had

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Speaker 2: In every single way. And they were.

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Speaker 1: They were a miserable, miserable failure at foreign policy, no

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Speaker 1: question about it. That doesn't mean every single thing they

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Speaker 2: So see how it goes and hope. So Halpurn pointing

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Speaker 2: and he also says number six, Zelenski, he's skilled it

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Speaker 2: are you gonna do number seven except defeat? Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I don't. I don't think it's an indictment of it. No,

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Speaker 2: But but Trump has a plan to end the war. Biden,

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Speaker 2: Harris didn't, Zelenski doesn't. Right. Uh seven. There's no way

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Speaker 2: to end the war without giving putin something and maybe

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Speaker 2: quite a bit, including things that no civilized person would

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Speaker 2: want to bestow upon a thug who did what he did.

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Speaker 2: But there's just no other way to end the war.

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Speaker 2: That's just freaking reality, which I hate in the current

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Speaker 2: state of things, but it is true. I love this one.

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Speaker 2: Number eight. The coddling of Europe militarily, diplomatically, economically by

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Speaker 2: every recent president not named Trump is one of the

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Speaker 2: great foreign policy debacles in the history of the United States.

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Speaker 1: Right right, Even as an Obama for instance, or even

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Speaker 1: but that was as far as it went. It was

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Speaker 2: And when Trump first term came along and made a

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Speaker 2: their NATO agreement. Oh my god, he wants to destroy NATO.

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Speaker 2: He's not supporting our allies. I like Mark Alpern's a

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Speaker 2: judgment that our coddling of Europe on these issues is

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Speaker 2: a giant way that makes history books, you know, in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeap, Europe had to be dependent on the US

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Speaker 1: We never said, hey, you got to stand on your

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Speaker 2: That's absolutely true. And also this Trump and his foreign

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Speaker 2: policy national security team might be blundering into a colossal

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Speaker 2: error on Ukraine. But the above list, all the things

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of nuance to this. I mean because,

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Speaker 1: for instance, the G seven statement not listing Russia as

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Speaker 1: an aggressor seems ridiculous, ridiculous, but the statement was abandoning

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Speaker 1: the traditional show of unity. And if JD Vance were

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Speaker 2: But you know, it's not one hundred percent ridiculous. So

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Speaker 2: we never actually got around to some of these tweets

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Speaker 2: from a former member of Zelensky's administration. He tweeted this

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Speaker 2: We have always lived in this reality. We just didn't

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Speaker 2: that Trump says out loud what Biden was thinking and

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Speaker 2: doing about Ukraine. Biden was against NATO, expansion, against providing

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Speaker 2: Trump wants to end the war, but it is not

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Speaker 2: going to provide the aid either, But Biden was not

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Speaker 2: the same time, this guy, former Zelenski, a cabinet member,

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Speaker 2: said Trump isn't cutting off military support that's already in

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Speaker 2: place so far, which a point I made already, and

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Speaker 2: previous US presidents have followed a similar policy. They didn't

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Speaker 2: after CRIMEA, Bush and Obama letting Putin get away with

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Speaker 2: Trump is just doing well. He's doing the same thing.

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Speaker 2: He's just saying it, and that's what he's getting so

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Speaker 2: much grief for, except for the stuff. And this is

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Speaker 2: why I wish he'd lead out the why you got

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Speaker 2: a bad mouth Zolensky and call him a mediocre comedian

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Speaker 1: It's a temper tantrum because Zelensky challenged him on not

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Speaker 2: This is the problem with you being old, the Karen Bass.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so now she's gonna get to the bottom of this.

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Speaker 1: This is straight out of the Gavy Newsom playbook. In California,

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Speaker 5: This fire Department is responding sternly to the Mayor's claims

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Speaker 1: It could be the only thing that bothers me about

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Speaker 2: No, you know, whatever juncture he can't. No, God, I

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Speaker 2: provocative if Russia had gone to war with US, or

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Speaker 2: we to blame if they had attacked us or whatever.

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Speaker 1: The problem that I have with that point of view,

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Speaker 1: and again, it's not insane, it's just that it always

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Speaker 1: underestimates the cost of being passive or submissive or not

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Speaker 1: being robust.

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Speaker 2: Right. They always act as if if we weren't mean,

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Speaker 2: nobody would be Yeah, exactly, exactly, yeah, and yeah. That

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Speaker 2: oversimplifies your argument and it saves me time. Though, more

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Speaker 2: and more and more thing from Charles c. W. Cook.

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Speaker 2: He said, rumors now that Trump is playing seven dimensional chess.

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Speaker 2: I love Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: So got this from Moe, longtime correspondent listener as a

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Speaker 1: militant Magas supporter. I too am baffled by WTF Trump

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Speaker 1: is doing with Ukraine. I do agree with and support

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Speaker 1: the position that Ukraine and Zelensky are corrupt, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: I have two very brief answers to that, and the

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Speaker 1: first part is not I'm not trying to blow my

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Speaker 1: horn or anything like this, but my giant senior project

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Speaker 1: way back in school was was about the Soviet republics

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Speaker 1: that were not Russia, and then when they crumbled right

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Speaker 1: after I got graduated, it's been so interesting to watch

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Speaker 1: how they have assimilated mostly into the West and have

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Speaker 1: moved beyond the Soviet style of communism corruption into a

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Speaker 1: more Western way of doing business. And it's been halting

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Speaker 1: and imperfect. It always is. The Yes, there continues to

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Speaker 1: be corruption because the only way to get ahead in

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Speaker 1: the communist system is to be corrupt, essentially, and so

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Speaker 1: working through that is a really difficult thing. The second

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Speaker 1: caveat I would throw in is that profiteering and wartime

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Speaker 1: are like inhaling and exhaling. They have never existed without

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Speaker 1: each other.

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Speaker 2: Ever.

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Speaker 1: It was one of Lincoln and Stanton's greatest challenges during

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Speaker 1: the Civil War. The extent to which profiteers in the

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Speaker 1: North and the Union were screwing the government and making

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Speaker 1: it harder to end the war. So to point out

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Speaker 1: waste and some fraud during wartime as some sort of

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Speaker 1: proof positive that therefore Zelensky's a bad guy and must go.

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Speaker 2: It's just not the way it works. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: that's so much chaos. That's all true, but I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure why it matters anyway. We went to war with

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Speaker 2: Iraq first time around because they invaded Kuwait, which was

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Speaker 2: not a democracy. If if Saudi Arabia got attacked by Iran,

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Speaker 2: we'd be on Saudi Arabia's side and fight with them.

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Speaker 2: They're not a democracy. They're all kinds of corrupt and

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Speaker 2: everything it doesn't run. If Ukraine is friendly to the

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Speaker 2: United States, we can't live in a world where a

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Speaker 2: country that's an enemy of Europe and the United States

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Speaker 2: gets to invade it, right right.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, it's a good conversation and dissent

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Speaker 1: is more than welcome. You know, you can drop us

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Speaker 1: Disagreement makes my ideas stronger or convinces me that yours

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Speaker 1: are better. You're doing us a favor by disagreeing anyway.

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Speaker 1: But Moe goes on to say one thing Trump said

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Speaker 1: in the incredibly good interview with Musk on Hannity, and

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Speaker 2: I would agree in.

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Speaker 1: The course of a fairly casual conversation, he said, I

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Speaker 1: believe I have the power to end the war.

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Speaker 2: If I do, I should do it.

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Speaker 1: And Trump has said many things that strike me as

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Speaker 1: sincere to indicate his horror at the human cost of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that gets to that point. We mentioned a couple

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Speaker 2: of times, it's not gonna there's not gonna be a

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Speaker 2: Run your game. My fingernails are the longest they've ever

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Speaker 2: been in my life, and I'm disgusted by it. Are

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Speaker 2: you homeless? Do you need a place to stay? Yes, Katie,

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Speaker 2: I was just wondering if you've ever heard of nail clippers, right,

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Speaker 2: So that was that was insulting. I had nail clippers.

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Speaker 2: I've never used them much throughout my life because I

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Speaker 2: have the really bad habit of chewing my nails. I've

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Speaker 2: always had it, yeah, and I've gotten away from it

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Speaker 2: a couple of times with just a little bit of discipline,

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Speaker 2: and I'm trying to do it again. But I keep

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Speaker 2: forgetting to trim my nails because it's not part of

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Speaker 2: my routine since you know, I keep them chewed to

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Speaker 2: a nub anyway usually. But now they're really long, clean,

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Speaker 2: not like Bob Dylan in the movie or Timothy Chalet

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Speaker 2: in the movie. Watch that, and that's a very accurate thing.

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Speaker 2: If you go to the Bob Dylan movie, his portrayal

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Speaker 2: Bob Dylan with the long, dirty fingernails is accurate. But

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Speaker 2: how do you play guitar like that? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Long fingernails are anathema to playing guitar. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I need to buy clippers. It's gross. I've always

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Speaker 2: I've never trusted guys with long fingernails.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you need to borrow the two dollars, come

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Speaker 1: to me. We can start to gofund me and they're

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Speaker 1: available everywhere.

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Speaker 2: So do you swallow the nails? Oh? Oh, Michael, A

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Speaker 2: good question but disgusting. Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 1: My fingernails are so like thick and hard. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I could choose them off. Have you been spitting

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Speaker 1: them in jail all these years when I turned my back, idiot?

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Speaker 2: One of the reasons. And it's a terrible habit, not

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Speaker 2: an uncommon one, but a terrible habit, especially as an adult.

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Speaker 2: But I have a family member with OCD who choose

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Speaker 2: them down to bloody and just can't stop. And so

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping that by you know, because you know, doing

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Speaker 2: that in front of him is not helping with trying

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Speaker 2: to convince him. It's a bad idea once again, an

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Speaker 2: example of having kids making you a better person because

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Speaker 2: you have to live up to various things you believe in.

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Speaker 2: As an example, so annoying. That would be so freeing

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Speaker 2: once they go and I can go back to old

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Speaker 2: mestre eating nail bite and Jack crosswalking, all kinds of things.

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Speaker 1: Wow, jaywalking rather a So what do we want to

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Speaker 1: do next? I have many, many options.

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Speaker 2: There's some more because they did a two day version

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Speaker 2: of Elon and Trump together on Hannity and they had

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Speaker 2: another round of them, and some are pretty good, including

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Speaker 2: our I'd love to hear that maybe the clip of

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Speaker 2: the year. We've played it a couple of times already.

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Speaker 2: It could end up being the clip of the year,

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Speaker 2: just because it matters so much to us.

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Speaker 1: That would be Elon's second win, by the way, unprecedented.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Well, you know, things are getting weird, and they

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Speaker 2: getting weird fast. That was clip of the year two

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Speaker 2: years ago. Stay with us.

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Speaker 6: I really want to I really want to emphasize to

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Speaker 6: people that that's a very important point. If we don't

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Speaker 6: solve the deficit, there won't be money for medical care,

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Speaker 6: they won't be moneyful for Social Security. We either solve

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Speaker 6: the deficit, all we'll be doing is paying debt.

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Speaker 2: It'd be a pretty dry clip of the year, but

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be. It's I guarantee it's going to be

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Speaker 2: in the running, just because it's so flipping true and important.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that him saying that out loud is

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Speaker 1: novel and surprising just is shock.

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Speaker 2: I know the answer to this, but I'm going to

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Speaker 2: say it anyway. Why does every single news report about

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk include the phrase world's richest men? Because news

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Speaker 2: is for stupid people? Or I don't know. Well, I

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Speaker 2: think they're trying to insinuate some sort of untortinous and

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Speaker 2: that he's cutting things while being the richest man in

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Speaker 2: the world, and that's supposed to be ironic or scary

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Speaker 2: or something scary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we well, in ironic, Yeah for dumb people.

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Speaker 2: Again. Ah, it's obvious.

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Speaker 1: And this has been well documented that our society has

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Speaker 1: gone from admiring success and hoping to emulate it to

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Speaker 1: wanting to demonize it and acting like being successful is

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Speaker 1: self evident proof of being a bad person. It's a

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Speaker 1: very socialist, awful way to approach life.

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Speaker 2: But this was a part two of the Hannity Interview

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Speaker 2: first interview with Trump and Elon together last night, and

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Speaker 2: you probably haven't heard a lot of this. So here's

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Speaker 2: a little more.

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Speaker 6: Provided the economy grows faster than the money supply, which

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Speaker 6: means you stop the government over spending in the waste

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Speaker 6: and the output of real useful goods and services exceeds

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Speaker 6: the increase in the money supply. You have no inflation,

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Speaker 6: and you also drop the interest payments that that people

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Speaker 6: pay because if the government waves youuly. Yes, the reason

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Speaker 6: the interest paiments are so high is because the national

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Speaker 6: debt keeps increasing, so the government is competing to sell

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Speaker 6: debt with with the private citizens.

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Speaker 2: This drives up the interest rate. So if you have a.

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Speaker 6: If you cut back on the deficit, you actually have

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Speaker 6: an amazing situation for people because you get rid of

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Speaker 6: inflation and you drop the interest rates.

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Speaker 2: Yep, which one you want to know?

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Speaker 1: Let's go with twenty six. Trump was talking about media

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Speaker 1: so many people. You know, you're talking about the radical left.

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Speaker 1: They have the lowest ratings. Ms NBC is dying, CNN

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Speaker 1: is dying. They're all dying. The New York Times.

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Speaker 3: Is doing a lousy The Washington Post is doing horribly.

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Speaker 3: They're all doing badly because people don't buy it anymore.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's let CNN respond and the person of Kara

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Speaker 1: Swisher twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: Michael, it's like a sequel to I Love You Man,

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Speaker 2: but bad like a bad one. It feels like a

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Speaker 2: buddy comedy. It's very it's a very it's Ron camm

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Speaker 2: in some way.

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Speaker 3: Although it's not funny, it's very it's a very strang

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Speaker 3: I thought, I thought George Bush, if I used his term,

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Speaker 3: that was that was weird.

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Speaker 2: That was some weird ass. Yeah, some weird stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I can hardly even get myself worked up to be,

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Speaker 1: you know, annoyed with CNN and MSNBC anymore. They're just

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Speaker 1: such clowns and their significance is dropping so steadily. It's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: if you and your thirty one viewers enjoyed that. There

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Speaker 1: they are talking seriously and soberly about America's debt problem

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Speaker 1: and the damage it will do and how to solve it.

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Speaker 1: And all you've got is that was like a sequel

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Speaker 1: to I Love You man, Who's weird? And that was

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Speaker 1: some weird ass? No wonder you're going away? You're terrible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I've been saying this now for By the way,

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Speaker 2: today is the one month anniversary of Trump becoming President

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Speaker 2: of the United States. Does it seem like he's been

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Speaker 2: president for a month? God, how many presidents have happened

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Speaker 2: in US history where nothing happened in the first month.

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Speaker 2: I mean nothing.

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Speaker 1: The Carl Rove wrote an Interest In column saying, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Trump's gotta slow down some so the American people know

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Speaker 1: what you're doing. Celebrate the victory at the border, tour

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Speaker 1: the border straight states, talk to the governors because news

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Speaker 1: junkies know what's happening, but the average American might not

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Speaker 1: have noticed yet.

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Speaker 2: I think he had a decent point. Oh, I think

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Speaker 2: there's all kinds. There's a small thing slipping by, whether

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Speaker 2: it's you know, getting rid of plastic paper straws, or

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Speaker 2: maybe the trains sports thinger, just because there's so many

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Speaker 2: news stories per day. Our four is on the way.

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Speaker 1: If you don't get our four, subscribe to our podcast

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty