WEBVTT - MLB AL Win Totals (Ep. 78) 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:07.080 It's time to place your bets. Let's talk to the pros. 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:20.000 A what's up everybody. It's me Joey Pa Joe Pisapia 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:23.480 and welcome to betting pros and we are here today 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:27.360 to take you through the American League. That's right, win totals, baby, 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.000 it is me, it is Dan Harris, and it is 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:32.840 you and Dan. We just did a very successful National 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:34.680 League pod. If people missed it, they can go back 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.360 and listen to it, obviously on demand wherever they get 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.280 their podcasts. But it's time to focus on the American 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.880 League today and the win totals there where the d 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.319 H still lives and breathes where eventually we'll come back 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.120 to the National League, I believe. But that's the big difference. 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:53.120 And the differences too. We've got some teams, some juggernaut teams, 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:56.920 especially in the New York Yankees, and a few other 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:58.840 ones as well. But this seems a little bit more 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.680 maybe open to an interpretation with some of these win totals. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.160 I think there might be some more variance here as 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:06.160 we're looking at the American League. So welcome to the 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:07.680 show today, my friend. How are you. 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.600 I'm doing well, I'm doing well, yeah, these totals. 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:13.400 Some of them are tough. I have a couple of 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:14.679 ones that I really really like. 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:16.520 I'm going to be interested to hear what you have 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.119 to say about them, But a lot of them it's 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.120 kind of like, I don't know, like this easily could 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.600 be like ten games over, ten games under, and I 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.000 really have no idea, which Twyileen. So I'm excited to 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.240 talk about these today for sure, because you're right, there 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:29.759 are a lot of places that. 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:31.880 We really need to dive into the number. 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.080 Yeah, and if you're looking to dive into these numbers, 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:37.000 make sure you hit up Betting Pros because that's the 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.679 site for you. It's our extension of Fantasy Pros and 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:41.920 obviously it's for all your betting information. They do a 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.840 fantastic job here of taking all the different sites, all 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:46.800 the different win totals. You could see everything, look at 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.080 where the values are on the board, and make your 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.800 good informed decisions. And that's what we're about here, a 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:55.320 little entertainment, a little information, a lottle of this, a 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.160 little of that, and we got you covered here on 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.919 Betting Pros. So let's start. Let's start with the Yankees, 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.240 the team that is either loved or hated, depending on 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.120 what side of the aisle you're on. But the win 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:09.000 total for the Yankees big time expectations as always, And 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:10.640 that's the thing with these big teams, whether it be 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.560 in football, the Dallas Cowboys that have big followings, you know, 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.480 certain teams, the Yankees, you're always gonna have a premium 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:19.520 because of the kind of team they are, the big 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:23.520 base fan base. So the aggregate here is ninety five 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:25.160 and a half. That's about what you're getting at most 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.240 spots for the New York Yankees. Now what's interesting about 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.280 this is you look at them on paper, you see 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.320 the talent, it's the rotation. I think that's got more questions. 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.560 You've got Garret Cole at the top, no questions about him, 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:37.919 But after that, how many ing is his tie on 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.079 gonna give you? Is Corey Kluber gonna bounce back and 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.800 give you two hundred innings? Again, that's a distinct question 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:46.359 mark Domingo Herman, will sever Reno come back? David Garcia, 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.320 is he ready to kind of make that leap? Dan, 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:50.480 There's a lot of questions, and that ninety five and 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:52.359 a half is a very big number. So with all 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:54.760 that in there plus oh yeah, there's a bunch of 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:56.959 guys that get hurt every year on the Yankees named 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.560 Judge and Stanton. Throwing all that in there is this 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.200 tempting you to look potentially at the under of this 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:04.280 ninety five and a half. 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:07.520 It's kind of a stay away for me. I wouldn't 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:07.960 go over. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.600 I would say that I'm not going over with it 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.560 for the exact reasons that you said. Corey Klueber is 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:17.040 the number two starter like you, that's not a rotation 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.560 that should be, you know, for a team that should 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.240 be expected to have ninety five and a half wins. 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.720 It really is, with all the question marks in that rotation, 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.079 just something where I can't go over it is the lineup, 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.359 but you mentioned it, man, you want a lineup where 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.520 guys are likely to miss time Between Judge and Stanton 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:34.800 and Aaron Hicks and everything like that. 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:35.680 It's really tough. 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.960 And the bullpen is good, but already they're dealing with 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.720 something we don't know the news. The news it just 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.360 broke this morning, but Britain is having an MRI. They're 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.960 a little worried about his UCL in his arm. That 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.400 would be a big hit to the bullpen. So ninety 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.440 five and a half is a big number. There's no 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.960 way I would go over. But if they stay healthy, 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.320 if you get a bounce back really from either Tyne 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:58.520 or Kluber, they easily could. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.320 D this number. So for me it's a stay. 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.720 I lean slightly the under, but I'm basically not betting 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:04.240 it either way. 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:06.640 You know, I'm not a big fan of the you know, 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.840 I really like this number. Feels really good, But I 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:11.640 don't really like this number. It feels really good, it 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.640 feels right about where it should be, and the reason 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:15.600 is because of the variance of the pitchers. Even if 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.279 they get good innings out of those guys, my concern 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.719 is do they get enough of them and then the bullpen, 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:22.880 which is the strength. If they start having an injury 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.880 or two, then we're really into the weeds. And I 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:27.839 think when you're looking at the overall picture of the 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:29.719 East Den, it feels a little bit, at least to me, 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.040 like the Rays and Blue Jays are going to be 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.920 far more competitive than I think people realize even last year, 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.640 and that's something that's going to enter into it now. 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.239 Going to those Rays who made it to the World Series. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:42.400 I went on record last year all over the place, 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.200 and I said that this is a season that is 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.520 built for the race. It's sixty games. The Red Sox 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.440 are not competing this year. The Yankees are not gonna 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.680 be able to go out there and acquire big ticket 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.400 items and they can absorb all these big salaries because 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.240 they're the Yankees or they're the Red Sox. So the 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.640 Rays are actually, for the first time competing on a 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.760 very level playing field. And when you know it, they 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:04.240 made it all the way to the World Series. 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:04.520 Yep. 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:06.960 But now we're back to one sixty two. So here's 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:10.719 the question. No Snell, No Morton. I know they have 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:12.440 that whole little league pitching thing, which you're a big 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:13.440 fan of the little league pitching. 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:13.919 I know that. 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.120 I know you got lots of little league commitments going on. 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.640 Eighty five and a half is the number four of 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:22.479 the Rays, the reigning defending America League champs. So do 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.919 you think this is achievable with these losses in the 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:27.880 rotation and now the factor in that we're back to 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:29.279 the one sixty two marathon. 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.400 I do, but I really just do because I just 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.799 kind of with the Rays. I just kind of close 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.520 my eyes and say, I believe in whatever you want 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.520 me to believe, because when you look at this team, 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.839 you're like, how is this team even a five hundred team? 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.560 I mean you look at the rotation, you know, I 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.920 mean when they lost Snell, you mentioned that lost Martin, 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:55.040 You're like, Okay, Chris Archer, Rich Hill, Michael waka Colin McHugh, 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.480 I mean at got glass. But yeah, that rotation is 0:05:58.520 --> 0:05:59.360 not something. 0:05:59.040 --> 0:05:59.640 That scares you. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.400 Sure they're going to be doing like you throw three innings, 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.320 you throw three inngs, you throw three innings like that, 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:05.400 which is fine, and their. 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.960 Mountation sounds like a sleeper list from twenty eighteen. 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:08.719 Correct. 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:12.120 That's that is my favorite most hilarious rotation ever, the 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.320 way you just put them all together and maybe go 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:15.360 what year is it? 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.480 That's what the rotation is. I didn't do anything, I legit, 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:19.760 just read the rotation. 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:23.359 And the lineup also is just like you're like, okay, Meadows, 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.599 I like you for a bounce back, Brandon Lao always 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.479 you know, developed power, Maybe buy into Randy a Rosarina maybe, 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:32.560 but then you're like, okay, who's your cleanup hitter? Ohg Manchoy, 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.240 Like this is not a lineup that you're scared of. 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.240 I do like the bullpen. I love Nick Anderson. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:38.880 I mean, I think what you saw from him during 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.080 the season last year is closer to what you're gonna get. 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:41.920 I know he fell apart in. 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:43.920 The postseason, but I do expect them to be back 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.479 to pretty much normal, which what he was. 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.640 You know. I like Castillo and Fairbanks is fine. 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.520 So you know the last three years ninety ninety six 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:53.960 and then last year they were one hundred and eight 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:57.040 win pace at eighty five and a half. This sounds terrible, 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:01.520 but I lean the over, but only really because I'm like, 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:06.599 they know what to do to get the most out 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:08.800 of their players, and I think that they are going 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:09.520 to be competitive. 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.480 It's a good division. It's tough, but I lean slightly over. 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.000 But it's all I have to close my eyes because 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.120 when you look at the actual parts, you're like, oh god, 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:17.880 this is disgusting. 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.800 So slightly over, but not not hammering it or anything 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:21.040 like that. 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.200 No, I'm not hammering this one either. I would also 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.040 lean the over. If I'm going to lean one way 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.960 on this one, it's because I think the addition at 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:29.800 some point in the time in this year of wander 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.240 Franco to this offense is going to be a big boost. 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:33.960 And what do you always, by the way, with him, 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:35.440 when do you expect him to come out? 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.920 Honestly, sooner than later. I don't know if it's going 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:40.880 to break camp. But my goodness, he's got off to 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:41.520 a great start. 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:42.040 Yeah. 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.080 And that's like he's kind of forcing their hand. And 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.280 I know he could play third base, they say, and 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.200 and maybe you know he plays second base and low 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.400 move somewhere else. I know there's a lot of discussions 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.480 right now, but I think last year you knew they 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.440 weren't going to push Wander Franco. They just weren't going 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:55.800 to do it. 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:56.280 Yep. 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.560 This year, this is a totally different set of circumstances. 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:03.000 And what you can can't acquire big time guys like 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.200 the Yankees can, like the Blue Jays probably can, like 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.600 the Red Sox can. What you can do is add 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.520 guys from within, which is what they did last year 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.120 with the Rose Arena and which they can do this 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.280 year with Franco. So those are the difference maker guys. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:14.920 I think they will go over. They will find a 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.119 way because they always do, and they have a nose 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.520 for getting the best out of these guys unless right, Chill. 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:21.600 I know he's one hundred and ten years old, but 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.080 I think it was a good signing. Like I actually 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.920 think that was a good pal for them, and it's 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.440 hard to replace Moreton end Snell. I think that's a lot. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.840 But they're gonna get creative they always do ye and 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:32.839 they're gonna manage their way. I mean, you're looking at 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:36.240 basically four and a half games above five hundred. Are 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.440 the Rays a better than five hundred baseball team? In 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.120 my opinion, I think they are, So that's why I 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.760 would go, are they five games better? Probably not much 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.559 more the Blue Jays however, at eighty six and a half, 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.320 they're even higher in most spots than the Rays. And 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.800 everybody's drinking the kool aid. And I love the Blue Jays. 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:55.360 I'm very excited about them. However, this is another team 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:57.959 that after he hunred Reyu, there's questions in the rotation. 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.280 So it's kind of like the theme right now with 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.640 the American leagueast as we continue on here, there's a 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.960 guy at the top. It's cool, it's glass. Now it's uh, 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.360 it's injured for you. And then after that, I don't know, 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:10.320 we'll see what are the guys and the rest of 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.240 these rotations. So is the Springer addition enough for this 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.040 team to stay relevant over this time period and be 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.360 in eighty six and a half above or do you 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.440 think maybe the hype is a little bit. I don't 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.560 know too much too soon for these Blue Jays. 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.880 I think it's enough to go over their rotation. You're right. 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.680 I mean there is a lot of horrible rotations, which isn't. 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.160 Good when you're in a division with a lot of 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:33.040 really good lineups. 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:36.600 But the rotation is gross. I mean Robbie, Ray, Tanner, Roark. 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.120 Hopefully Nate Pearson can stay healthy, but even if he does, 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.800 he's going to be limited in innings. Matt Stephen Mattz, 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:43.439 which you and I both know well of course as 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.240 Mets fans, and Ross Stripling had a terrible year last year. 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:47.000 Maybe bounces back. 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.400 The rotation is bad, but they are going to score 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.280 so many runs, especially now they're going to be playing 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.800 in Dunnaedean. I think that's how it's pronounced, by the way, 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:56.680 but that is an extreme Dunedin. 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:57.679 Dunedin. 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:00.600 You know, all right, it doesn't matter. 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:01.440 It doesn't matter. 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:05.120 Somebody tweeted us and figure out that has Adjo piece 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.480 be a seventy okay. But regardless of what it is, 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.480 it is an extreme hitters park. And you go to 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.680 that lineup and it's not just Springer. By the way, 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.680 I kind of really liked the under the radar signing 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:16.760 of Marcus Simeon too, because now you look at that, 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.000 look at that lineup, Joe go down from the top 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:24.600 to the bottom. It's Springer, Bashett, Semion, Tascar, Hernandez, Vlattie. 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.720 Bugio Guriel. Like that is a lineup. 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:30.000 I mean, they're gonna probably win a lot of twelve 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.360 ten games given everything like that. They don't have a 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.360 great bullpen. I do like Herbie Yates, but he's got 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.080 to bounce back and we need to see that and 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.560 everything like that. The thing is they have a farm system, 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.920 right They have a very solid farm system. So if 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.240 they're in contention, they're going to go for It's clear 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.160 what they're doing. They are going for it right now. 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.719 So even though the pitching staff is weak, even though 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:51.400 the bullpen is mediocre, unless Yates returns to top form, 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.199 in which case they have one of the best closers 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.280 in the game, I think the lineup is so good 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.240 that they're going to be able to slightly surpass the 0:10:58.240 --> 0:10:59.840 eighty six and a half wins. They strike me as 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.080 more of like an eighty eight twin team, So I 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.160 lean the over here. Again, not my favorite bet on 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.000 the board or anything like that, but I do like 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:06.520 the over. 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:08.679 You know, we could also make it up and call 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:10.679 it Dunidin, which would sound a lot more like a 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:12.719 Lord of the Rings place. Yeah, you know, I think 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.439 that's where you have to do. We give us take 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.040 the ring to Dunidin, and when you go there find 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.280 the three eyed pro And yeah, it sounds like that. 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.920 It's like a big game of thronesy, sort of Lord 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:23.839 of the Rings. He kind of plays. You know, you 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.560 gotta watch out. You don't want to be caught in 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.760 after dark and Dunidin it's a very dangerous place. Boston 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.960 Red Sox eighty and a half ugly. It's the only 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.480 way to discuss the Red Sox season last year. Eighty 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.360 and a half is the number. So they're basically just saying, eh, 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.880 let's throw our hands up. It's a five hundred team, 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.000 another team that has a lot of questions in the 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:46.439 rotation now at Twardo Rodriguez looking good this spring. Yep, 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.080 perhaps you get a healthy Chris sailback at some point. 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.040 I think when you're looking at this injury to Xander Bogarts, 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.199 you're slightly concerned. It seems like it's going in the 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:58.360 right direction. However, sometimes things like that tend to linger. 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:00.600 So I don't think it's a question of can they 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.560 score runs. I think we all know that they can. 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.520 It's just a matter of the bullpen the back of 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.800 the rotation. Yet again, here again, this is just what 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:10.520 the East is right now. It's kind of you know, 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.959 you've got those front end pitchers and that's kind of 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.800 tough to figure things out. So in my opinion, I 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.440 think this is again another number whereas I feel good 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.160 about the Rays over the Blue Jays is another one 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.400 where I feel barely good about that. I would lean 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.720 towards the over. There the Red Sox, I'd actually lean 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.840 towards the under because I think they're still more I 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.920 think basically this number is because they're the Red Sox, 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.000 And I know that sounds crazy, but I think you 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.960 can get people to wager on the over based on 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.680 the brand instead of really paying attention to what the 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:41.640 roster looks like. Because I think the roster still has 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:45.120 enough holes that they're probably just slightly under a five 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:45.720 hundred team. 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.640 Yep, I agree with that. I lean under. 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.200 I think if you put them in another division, maybe 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.800 you could see them getting to above five hundred. But 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.920 in this division we just talked about it, three very 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.280 very good teams, one not so good team, which we'll 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.559 talk about next. But with those teams, I feel like 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.240 it's gonna be really tough for this team to get there. 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.760 And again you mentioned the rotation. All the other teams, 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.000 they all have your one guy, right, they all have 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:09.679 all right, this is our guy. At least they don't 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:10.040 have a guy. 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:10.600 I mean, EDWARDO. 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.600 Rodriguez is a fine pitcher and I'm really hoping that 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:15.080 he returns. 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:15.280 To full health. 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.719 But that is not an ace pitcher, I mean, nor 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:21.160 is Nathan Devaldi. So their rotation is really not strong. 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:26.000 And their lineup, hopefully I mean, is Jadi Martinez. I'm 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.319 buying into the bounce back for Jadie Martinez, but we 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.719 still need to see it. And Xander Bogart's again is 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.240 already dealing with the shoulder thing. I don't think that 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.679 the lineup is going to be the red Sox lineup 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.560 of old and the bullpen is just mediocre. I mean, 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:41.720 I don't trust Matt Barnes to close games or Adam 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:43.920 out of you know, whoever wins it. The rest of them, 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.400 braz Or, Sawamura, Hernandez, like, they're just not that impressive. 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.040 So for me, again, I lean the under here. 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.880 This is not as strong this division. The numbers are 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.360 not strong. I don't get a stronglyan. There are other 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.640 spots where I have much stronger leans. I lean under 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:00.360 like you, I think we see this the same way 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.000 in another division, maybe over, but in the East, I'm 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:03.440 going under. 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:05.760 I just think this is a carryover from last year. 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.520 You know this, Yes, last year was ugly, but they 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.600 have not fixed enough of the issues. Where are the 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:12.160 issues that they fixed? They're not there. 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.360 Well, I think they're operating more like a small market team, 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.840 which is fine. I like I you know, the GM Bloom, 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:20.680 I mean, we almost hired him for the Mets job 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.480 before we hired Brody van Wagon and that that's sort 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.800 of the way he operates, right Like, he comes from 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.760 a small market background, and its fine for them, that's 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:30.800 what they're doing. But I think everybody kind of needs 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:34.040 to understand that is what they're doing. They're not sort 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:37.040 of wasting things right now. They're fully content to not 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.440 be in contention this year. So it's a team that, again, 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.560 if it comes down to it, if they're not in contention, 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:43.600 they'll be willing to sell off pieces that they can 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:45.040 and build up for next year. 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:46.800 So I do lean the end I think they can make. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:48.160 I'll say what, I think you can make some money 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:49.760 on the Red Sox under this year. I do. I 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:51.520 just think too many people are just buying into the 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:53.640 concept that it's it's the Red Sox They're going to 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.080 be better. No, I think they're still in this transition, 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.040 and they might even be into it in the first 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.400 half of twenty twenty two. All right, let's go into 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.800 the next one. Here, the Baltimore Orioles close out the 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:06.800 East sixty four and a half. Not the greatest number, 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.200 sixty four and a half. You're gonna lose about one 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:13.080 hundred games or so. So here's the idea. It's whether 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.120 or not you believe that they're just gonna get pummeled 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.320 by the rest of this division, which I think they 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.920 probably are. You know, the low numbers typically I see 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.480 the low number and I like to go over. I 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.360 like to give some parts a little bit work. Of course, 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.520 now I have a hard time doing that here. I 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.560 just gonna be honest with you. Are you having the 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:30.160 same hard time? 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.560 Oh, I'm under I'm character Ye. 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.880 It's such a low number, but yeah, this is one 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:37.120 hundred lost team. 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.400 Like it just is. I mean, Joe, you and I 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:41.480 do fantasy baseball. 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.600 Obviously we are fantasy baseball, Quoe unquote experts and you 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:45.680 I like John. 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:46.920 Means like I do like them. 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:51.560 M I don't think before I kind of was really 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.320 digging into it, I could have named another Oriole starter. 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.600 Can people listening right now name another starter? 0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:58.440 Jim Palmer, Jim. 0:15:58.280 --> 0:15:59.880 Bomber was at one point start. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.960 Dylan Bundy was not a good starter for them before 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:03.640 he went to the Drews. 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.120 It's I mean Keegan Aiken. 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.320 Dean Kramer or he Lopez, Like, this is not a 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:11.600 major leaguer talk about some rotations. This is not a 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:15.480 major league rotation. And their lineup is fine. You and 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.680