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Speaker 1: It's time to place your bets. Let's talk to the pros.

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Speaker 1: A what's up everybody. It's me Joey Pa Joe Pisapia

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Speaker 1: and welcome to betting pros and we are here today

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Speaker 1: to take you through the American League. That's right, win totals, baby,

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Speaker 1: it is me, it is Dan Harris, and it is

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Speaker 1: you and Dan. We just did a very successful National

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Speaker 1: League pod. If people missed it, they can go back

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Speaker 1: and listen to it, obviously on demand wherever they get

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Speaker 1: their podcasts. But it's time to focus on the American

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Speaker 1: League today and the win totals there where the d

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Speaker 1: H still lives and breathes where eventually we'll come back

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Speaker 1: to the National League, I believe. But that's the big difference.

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Speaker 1: And the differences too. We've got some teams, some juggernaut teams,

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Speaker 1: especially in the New York Yankees, and a few other

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Speaker 1: ones as well. But this seems a little bit more

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Speaker 1: maybe open to an interpretation with some of these win totals.

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Speaker 1: I think there might be some more variance here as

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Speaker 1: we're looking at the American League. So welcome to the

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Speaker 1: show today, my friend. How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well, I'm doing well, yeah, these totals.

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Speaker 3: Some of them are tough. I have a couple of

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Speaker 3: ones that I really really like.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be interested to hear what you have

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Speaker 2: to say about them, But a lot of them it's

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Speaker 2: kind of like, I don't know, like this easily could

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Speaker 2: be like ten games over, ten games under, and I

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Speaker 2: really have no idea, which Twyileen. So I'm excited to

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Speaker 2: talk about these today for sure, because you're right, there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of places that.

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Speaker 3: We really need to dive into the number.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you're looking to dive into these numbers,

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Speaker 1: fantastic job here of taking all the different sites, all

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Speaker 1: the different win totals. You could see everything, look at

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Speaker 1: where the values are on the board, and make your

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Speaker 1: Betting Pros. So let's start. Let's start with the Yankees,

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Speaker 1: the team that is either loved or hated, depending on

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Speaker 1: what side of the aisle you're on. But the win

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Speaker 1: total for the Yankees big time expectations as always, And

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Speaker 1: that's the thing with these big teams, whether it be

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Speaker 1: certain teams, the Yankees, you're always gonna have a premium

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Speaker 1: because of the kind of team they are, the big

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Speaker 1: base fan base. So the aggregate here is ninety five

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Speaker 1: and a half. That's about what you're getting at most

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Speaker 1: spots for the New York Yankees. Now what's interesting about

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Speaker 1: this is you look at them on paper, you see

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Speaker 1: the talent, it's the rotation. I think that's got more questions.

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Speaker 1: You've got Garret Cole at the top, no questions about him,

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Speaker 1: But after that, how many ing is his tie on

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Speaker 1: gonna give you? Is Corey Kluber gonna bounce back and

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Speaker 1: give you two hundred innings? Again, that's a distinct question

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Speaker 1: mark Domingo Herman, will sever Reno come back? David Garcia,

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Speaker 1: is he ready to kind of make that leap? Dan,

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of questions, and that ninety five and

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Speaker 3: It's kind of a stay away for me. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: I would say that I'm not going over with it

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Speaker 2: for the exact reasons that you said. Corey Klueber is

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Speaker 2: It really is, with all the question marks in that rotation,

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a big fan of the you know,

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Speaker 1: Going to those Rays who made it to the World Series.

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Speaker 1: But now we're back to one sixty two. So here's

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Speaker 1: I know you got lots of little league commitments going on.

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Speaker 3: That scares you.

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Speaker 2: Sure they're going to be doing like you throw three innings,

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Speaker 1: Mountation sounds like a sleeper list from twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: That's that is my favorite most hilarious rotation ever, the

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Speaker 2: Like this is not a lineup that you're scared of.

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Speaker 3: I do like the bullpen. I love Nick Anderson.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think what you saw from him during

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Speaker 2: the season last year is closer to what you're gonna get.

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Speaker 3: You know. I like Castillo and Fairbanks is fine.

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Speaker 2: win pace at eighty five and a half. This sounds terrible,

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Speaker 2: but I lean the over, but only really because I'm like,

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Speaker 2: they know what to do to get the most out

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Speaker 3: It's a good division. It's tough, but I lean slightly over.

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Speaker 2: But it's all I have to close my eyes because

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Speaker 3: So slightly over, but not not hammering it or anything

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not hammering this one either. I would also

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Speaker 2: And what do you always, by the way, with him,

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Speaker 1: Honestly, sooner than later. I don't know if it's going

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Speaker 1: And that's like he's kind of forcing their hand. And

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Speaker 1: This year, this is a totally different set of circumstances.

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Speaker 1: And what you can can't acquire big time guys like

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Speaker 1: I think they will go over. They will find a

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Speaker 1: for getting the best out of these guys unless right, Chill.

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Speaker 1: I know he's one hundred and ten years old, but

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Speaker 1: I think it was a good signing. Like I actually

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Speaker 1: hard to replace Moreton end Snell. I think that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: But they're gonna get creative they always do ye and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna manage their way. I mean, you're looking at

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Speaker 1: basically four and a half games above five hundred. Are

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Speaker 1: the Rays a better than five hundred baseball team? In

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Speaker 1: my opinion, I think they are, So that's why I

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Speaker 1: would go, are they five games better? Probably not much

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Speaker 1: more the Blue Jays however, at eighty six and a half,

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Speaker 1: everybody's drinking the kool aid. And I love the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited about them. However, this is another team

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Speaker 3: But the rotation is gross. I mean Robbie, Ray, Tanner, Roark.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're gonna probably win a lot of twelve

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Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a question of can they

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Speaker 1: It's just a matter of the bullpen the back of

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Speaker 1: And I know that sounds crazy, but I think you

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Speaker 3: Yep, I agree with that. I lean under.

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Speaker 2: And again you mentioned the rotation. All the other teams,

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Speaker 2: And their lineup, hopefully I mean, is Jadi Martinez. I'm

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Speaker 2: I don't trust Matt Barnes to close games or Adam

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Speaker 3: So for me, again, I lean the under here.

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Speaker 2: This is not as strong this division. The numbers are

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Speaker 2: not strong. I don't get a stronglyan. There are other

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Speaker 2: spots where I have much stronger leans. I lean under

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Speaker 2: like you, I think we see this the same way

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Speaker 1: I just think this is a carryover from last year.

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Speaker 1: You know this, Yes, last year was ugly, but they

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Speaker 2: Well, I think they're operating more like a small market team,

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Speaker 2: which is fine. I like I you know, the GM Bloom,

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Speaker 2: a small market background, and its fine for them, that's

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Speaker 2: to understand that is what they're doing. They're not sort

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Speaker 2: of wasting things right now. They're fully content to not

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Speaker 2: if it comes down to it, if they're not in contention,

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Speaker 1: So I do lean the end I think they can make.

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Speaker 1: I'll say what, I think you can make some money

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Speaker 1: on the Red Sox under this year. I do. I

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Speaker 1: be better. No, I think they're still in this transition,

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Speaker 1: half of twenty twenty two. All right, let's go into

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Speaker 1: the next one. Here, the Baltimore Orioles close out the

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Speaker 1: East sixty four and a half. Not the greatest number,

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm under I'm character Ye.

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Speaker 2: It's such a low number, but yeah, this is one

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Speaker 3: Like it just is. I mean, Joe, you and I

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Speaker 2: Obviously we are fantasy baseball, Quoe unquote experts and you

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Speaker 2: I like John.

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Speaker 3: Means like I do like them.

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Speaker 2: M I don't think before I kind of was really

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Speaker 3: Can people listening right now name another starter?

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Speaker 1: Jim Palmer, Jim.

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Speaker 3: Bomber was at one point start.

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Speaker 2: major leaguer talk about some rotations. This is not a

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Speaker 2: So for me, it's a low number. But yeah, this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of worry because they're gonna play teams

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Speaker 1: I am excited right now. Ninety one and a half

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Speaker 1: here we go. I'm finally excited. Why I always get

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Speaker 1: I'm just a I'm just a Midwestern kind of guy.

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Speaker 3: Well, are you excited for the over excited.

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Speaker 1: Danny boy? I am excited for the over ninety one

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Speaker 1: my goodness, ninety one and a half. I saw this

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Speaker 1: and I just wanted to immediately go and find all

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Speaker 1: the places where I could go and wager on it,

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Speaker 1: because I do feel like this is something where they're

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Speaker 1: not giving the White Sox enough credit, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's time we do, because this is a team that

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Speaker 1: is young, that is hungry, that already proved last year

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Speaker 1: the concept and now they're just coming back for more

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Speaker 1: and they've got the rating MVP on their team as well.

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Speaker 1: In jse Bree, you, I just think this team is

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Speaker 1: much better than people realize and I also think this

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Speaker 1: whole division, you know, Minnesota and the Indians are going

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Speaker 1: to the Cleveland baseball team, as it might be right now, it's.

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Speaker 3: Going to take are still the Indians, right? I think

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Speaker 3: they don't know all.

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Speaker 1: Right anyway if they are changes either way either way,

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Speaker 1: I think it's safe to just apologize. So White Sox

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Speaker 1: for you ninety one and a half? What do you do?

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Speaker 3: I kind of stay away from it, But all right.

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Speaker 1: Here run through the village on this one.

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Speaker 3: Let's point out a couple of things. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Number one, there are books out there FanDuel, in particular

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Speaker 2: ninety and a half, so if you like it, you

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Speaker 2: can get it even better at ninety one and a half,

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Speaker 2: which is a consensus ligne. Again, on our betting pros

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Speaker 2: Consensus MLB Betting Pros dot Com slash MLB Wins, you

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Speaker 2: can look at the win totals for every team, the

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Speaker 2: consensus line, and the individual sports books.

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Speaker 3: So you're looking at it.

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Speaker 2: The consensus line is ninety one and a half, but

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Speaker 2: there are a couple of Fox bet fandel that are

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Speaker 2: at ninety and a half, seeing ge an even better

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Speaker 2: line if you like the over, if you're.

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Speaker 3: Available to bet in those markets. Here it is You're right.

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Speaker 3: Everything you said is right, and I've dug into this

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Speaker 3: team and I can't poke holes in it. Okay, it

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Speaker 3: really can't. Their lineup is extremely extremely strong. It just is.

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Speaker 3: There really is no holes in it.

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Speaker 2: There are rotation you mentioned it, Linn, and especially a

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Speaker 2: year like this where you're coming off where you don't

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Speaker 2: know if you can count on the innings that you're

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Speaker 2: gonna get from most pictures, you can count on the

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Speaker 2: innings you're gonna get from Lynn.

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Speaker 3: Gilido is great, of course, Kiko is very good.

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Speaker 2: Maybe the back end of their rotation is a little weak,

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Speaker 2: but you mentioned it that got Copec waiting to come

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Speaker 2: add basically the best closer in the game, and Aaron

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Speaker 2: Bummer was probably okay to step in even if not.

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Speaker 2: Here's what worries me, Joe, And it's probably silly to

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Speaker 2: give this this much credit because there are teams that

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Speaker 2: projection systems just kind of you know, they can't get

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Speaker 2: a hold of, like the A's and the Braves, right,

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Speaker 2: the projection systems are always way below them. The projection

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Speaker 2: Pakoda right, like one of the most well known projection

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Speaker 2: systems eighty two and a half wins.

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Speaker 1: That's what they had for the Braves too or something.

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Speaker 2: I agree the break there are certain there are certain

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Speaker 2: teams historically, and they do it every single year. And

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Speaker 2: they also overvalue a couple of teams every year, which

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Speaker 2: we'll get to one of those teams we get to

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Speaker 2: the West.

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Speaker 3: They undervalue certain teams every single year because.

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Speaker 2: I think they can't quantify certain parts of their team,

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Speaker 2: whether it's the deepense or you know with the Rays

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Speaker 2: sometimes the way they're able to, you know, basically outmaneuver everybody.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is with the White Sox,

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Speaker 2: and historically I don't think they go under on the

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Speaker 2: White Sox. So I've been thinking that that that makes

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Speaker 2: me extremely worried. When a projection system is nine wins

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Speaker 2: nine wins different than what the over under is, so

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Speaker 2: I nine times I you know, I'm just basically I

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Speaker 2: understand over. I'm not betting the under, but I'm staying

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Speaker 2: away from it.

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Speaker 3: And it's a simple thing. And people want to be like,

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Speaker 3: what do you mean.

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Speaker 2: So you like the team, you think they could go over,

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Speaker 2: but the projection system is so far down, so you're off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but I am, because when

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Speaker 2: it's that big a difference, Joe, A nine win difference

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Speaker 2: for me is enough for me to say, am I

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Speaker 2: missing something with this team? And I can't quantify it yet?

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Speaker 2: So for me, I'm staying away. But if there is

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Speaker 2: a way to go, it is over.

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Speaker 1: I will agree with you that closer check, rotation check,

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Speaker 1: I got you check, depth in the system check. I

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Speaker 1: got more checks. I got more checks. I want to

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Speaker 1: checks check list. So power check, speed check, defense, big check.

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Speaker 1: A lot of good defenders too. Madrigal is a good

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Speaker 1: defender and over the app Now, honestly, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: tricky with Vaughn playing d H what you do with

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Speaker 1: the lay not the greatest defender, but he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: out there. But I think that's part of the acquisition there,

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Speaker 1: of bringing in the man. Meeting too is strewing up

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the outfield defense. So all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, I think they're closer to

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Speaker 1: one hundred win team than they are a ninety win team.

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Speaker 3: All right, So you're you're really going over here. Maybe

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Speaker 3: maybe it's maybe for me, maybe what's holding me back.

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Speaker 3: In addition to Pakoda is Tony LaRussa, Like, what happens.

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Speaker 1: The one check I did not check because I don't.

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Speaker 2: You you conspicuously forgot the manager. Yeah, I think for

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Speaker 2: me again, you know, maybe it's gonna be anything. You're

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Speaker 2: going to see a bat flip Like this team is

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Speaker 2: young and cool and loose and.

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Speaker 3: Bat flippy, and I feel like you're gonna be like,

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Speaker 3: did you just bat flip your bench for three games?

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Speaker 3: And stuff like that. You could feel like it's the.

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Speaker 1: Same guy who manages the A's flipping bats and thy

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Speaker 1: years ago.

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Speaker 3: Man, another time, that was a whole nother time.

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Speaker 1: Only the versa cares about one thing, winning. If they're winning,

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Speaker 1: they could do whatever the hell they want. If they're

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Speaker 1: using that's a different story.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you work for Pakoda and you are listening

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Speaker 2: to this podcast, mess m me on Twitter and explain

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Speaker 2: to me why you're saying.

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Speaker 1: When you say Pakoda, I always think of Bill Pakota

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Speaker 1: or like immediately and that shows my age.

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Speaker 3: I just put that you're an old man.

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Speaker 1: All right. Minnesota Twins are next eighty eight and a half. Now,

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Speaker 1: this number feels right to me. This is one that

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Speaker 1: I'm running away from. Uh, the Twins, I could do

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Speaker 1: the opposite checklist. Everything could break right, but Donaldson's health couldn't.

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Speaker 1: This could be finally the year Nelson Cruz, God forbid,

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Speaker 1: isn't Nelson Cruz, Sario is gone, still hasn't taken that

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Speaker 1: step forward. My Ada is coming off a career year,

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Speaker 1: all these things. Buckston's always hurt, no strikes out every

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Speaker 1: five seconds. There's so many negatives. I can look at

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Speaker 1: this team and I think that that's a sound way

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Speaker 1: of looking at it. And if you could look at

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Speaker 1: all those negatives, it would tend towards an under But

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Speaker 1: I know that not every negative is going to happen

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Speaker 1: for the Twins. So I think this is a good number.

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Speaker 1: This is a stay away number for me. I'm bullish

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Speaker 1: on the white Sox. I am passive about the Twins.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about Minnesota this year? In that

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Speaker 1: eighty eight and a half?

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Speaker 2: I agree with you that it's a pretty It seems

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Speaker 2: like a pretty sharp number to me. And again, you

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Speaker 2: know the last two years one hundred and one wins

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Speaker 2: and then they were on a ninety seven win pace

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Speaker 2: last year.

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Speaker 3: It's a good team and not that much has changed.

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Speaker 2: But I agree with you like it is really easy

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Speaker 2: to see this falling off a cliff because again, Nelson

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Speaker 2: Cruise is a thousand years old, and although everything looks

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Speaker 2: good and he continues to get it done, and he

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Speaker 2: continues to be undervalue generally, like the wheels fall off

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Speaker 2: for every.

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Speaker 3: Time, eventually, eventually except that except it's true, not obviously,

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Speaker 3: but Buckston, you're right.

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Speaker 2: I mean if Buckston, if I knew Buckston were gonna

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Speaker 2: be healthy the whole season, I would love it. But

589
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Speaker 2: obviously never is Josh Donaldson feels like he's about to

590
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Speaker 2: break down. Is Miguel Snow gonna play to the eightyeh percent?

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Speaker 2: All of his possible outcomes are the twentieth?

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Speaker 3: You never know? But their team is like it's it's solid.

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Speaker 2: I mean that the big you know, Brios, my Eta,

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Speaker 2: and I like Pineda. I like adding Jay Happ at

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Speaker 2: the end of the rotation as well. I like adding

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Speaker 2: out Klome, who continues to get it done despite Miniogre

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Speaker 2: stuff in the bullpen. So it does strike me as

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Speaker 2: a team that's gonna be above five hundred. But there's

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Speaker 2: enough downside for me if everything goes right that I

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Speaker 2: agree with you, I kind of want to stay away

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Speaker 2: from the numbers, it's a solid number something I don't

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Speaker 2: really love.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's better than five hundred team, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're a ninety win team in that stay away. Now,

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Speaker 1: this next one, I like the over two. It's the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland baseball team, the Indians eighty one and a half.

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Speaker 1: And the reason is they have pitching. You know, when

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Speaker 1: we talk about all these other teams that go, oh,

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Speaker 1: what about the three and the four and the five, Well,

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Speaker 1: guess what this is. One goes all the way. You know,

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Speaker 1: you start with Bieber, who's probably the best pitcher in

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Speaker 1: the American League besides Garret Cole. You can have that conversation.

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Speaker 1: But then after that, you've got Plisek, You've got Savale,

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Speaker 1: who I think very highly of. You've got Tristan McKenzie.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's always the sense that Cleveland will find

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Speaker 1: a way, and they keep rereading these young pitchers and

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Speaker 1: turning it over. And yes, they did lose lind Door,

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Speaker 1: but they did bring in Rosario and that's good. And

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Speaker 1: I just feel like from the Indian standpoint, they have

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Speaker 1: the manager, they have the pitching that's enough to be

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Speaker 1: more than a five hundred team, and they're just giving

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Speaker 1: them five hundred. Eighty one and a half is five hundred.

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Speaker 1: They're better than that. They're eighty four eighty five in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, somewhere around there. So for me, I actually

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Speaker 1: think Cleveland's gonna have a streak or two in the year.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna put them over five hundred because that pitching

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Speaker 1: can be so dominant at times, and that is something

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Speaker 1: that other teams don't all have. So when they go

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Speaker 1: and play some of the lesser teams in the East

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Speaker 1: or in the West, they're gonna feast on those teams

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Speaker 1: with that pitching. That's my take on Cleveland. What's yours.

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Speaker 2: I'm not like running to the over here just because

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Speaker 2: I feel like Cleveland every single year. And again it's

634
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Speaker 2: we talked a little bit about it with the Rays.

635
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Speaker 2: It's like their whole is greater than the summer their parts.

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Speaker 2: They're somehow able to do it. They are masters at

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Speaker 2: getting these guys like Poli, Sach and Savale who are

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Speaker 2: like command guys without the greatest stuff, and turning them

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Speaker 2: into borderline dominant pitchers. I don't know how they do

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Speaker 2: it every single year, but they are able to get

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Speaker 2: that done. Obviously, Karen Tech if he's dominant in the bullpen.

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Speaker 2: I know he had a little bit of some control

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Speaker 2: issues and that you know, his first appearance there, and

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Speaker 2: that might rear their ugly head.

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Speaker 3: Their lineup is not great.

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Speaker 2: I think adding at A Rosario really helped a lot.

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Speaker 2: And you know fran Mill's there of course. Jose Ramirez,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man. I feel like when I look

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Speaker 2: at the parts, it's like a five hundred team and

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00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: they will it surprise me if they go over.

651
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 3: No, because they always find a way to be better

652
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: than I feel like they should be. But it strikes

653
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 3: me as a five hundred team.

654
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: So I mean for me, I guess you know, if

655
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 2: I had to go one way or the other, i'd

656
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: go over.

657
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 3: But there's an over that I like in this division.

658
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 3: We haven't gotten there yet.

659
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: All right, Well, maybe it's the Kansas City role. Let's

660
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: see what Dad thinks about them. Seventy three and a

661
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: half is the number. Now, this is I think a

662
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: very competitive team. My problem is competitive and wins don't

663
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: always go hand in hand yep. So that's the tough

664
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 1: selling point for me on the seventy three and a half. Now,

665
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: I would lean towards the over here slightly because I

666
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: am actually going to go in the under and the

667
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: next team, and I think that's where the variance comes from.

668
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: I think the Royals are closer to the other group

669
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: than they are the bottom tier. But what do you

670
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: think about the Royals, because I'm guessing that's the one

671
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: you're talking about because there's only two left. And I

672
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: don't think it's the Tigers.

673
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 3: I'm not smashing the over.

674
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: Not a guy.

675
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: It is the Royals.

676
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: It is the Royals in seventy three and a half.

677
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: They are my favorite one in the division and it's

678
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: over and I think again part of it is I

679
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: don't like the Indians.

680
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 3: As much as you.

681
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: I have some probably you know, unfounded concerns about the

682
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: White Sox.

683
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 3: The Twins might not be as good as they.

684
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: Usually are, and I think the Royals are where they're

685
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: going to make up a little bit of the difference.

686
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: We've talked about it. On the fantasy side. We really

687
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 2: like what they have done this offseason for that sneaky

688
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 2: good offense, right like with Meryfield, Andrew Ben and Tenny

689
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: who you and I both think can bounce back with

690
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: the change of scenery sal Perez.

691
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: Carlos Santana was a nice little just sneaky little ad jorgez.

692
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: Sohilaire still has the power you've got at Albert Delmandesi

693
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: gonna probably lead the league in steals.

694
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 3: Hunter Dozer we like as a bounce back who they

695
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: signed to an extension.

696
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 2: Michael Taylor finally is gonna get some regular playing time

697
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: and he can do some damage.

698
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 3: The lineup really from top to bottom.

699
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: It doesn't blow you away. It doesn't have superstars, but

700
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: it's a long lineup. It's gonna be tough to get

701
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: through them.

702
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 3: And I like the rotation.

703
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: Not love the rotation, but I think they've got enough

704
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: quality arms that they're going to be able to put

705
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: out somebody pretty much each and every time through the rotation.

706
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: That's going to be like, this guy should keep us

707
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: in the game, whether it's Duffy or Kelly Keller pardon me,

708
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: or minor or Singer. I mean, I think that those

709
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: guys are gonna be able to do it. Greg Holland

710
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: like maybe the Wheels fall back off. I feel like

711
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: they fell off and came back on and they might

712
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: fall off again.

713
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: That's fine wheels anymore.

714
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: The eighth in a guy.

715
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: Uh, guy's been on donuts. It's fuir, I'm pretty.

716
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: Sure, or stomach. I forget how to pronounce them. Stalmont,

717
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: he's done it. He their reliever, the needed really throw.

718
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: He throws gas so he can really step in again.

719
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: I think that the fact that they signed Dozer to

720
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: the extension. I think this team sort of feels like

721
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: it might have arrived quote unquote a little earlier than

722
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: they expected, and they're willing to kind of play themselves

723
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: into contention. So this strikes me as like a high

724
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: seventies win team. I still think they'll probably be below

725
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: five hundred, but it strikes me as like seventy eight

726
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: seventy nine win team for me.

727
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: So I really like the over. This is one of

728
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 3: my favorite bets of the season.

729
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: Bobby Wood Junior is pushing the envelope a little bit too.

730
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: I like me some Bobby Wood Junior. I was very

731
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: high on him when he was drafted. I thought that

732
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: was a great pick by the Royals, and he looks

733
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: like he might force their hand at some point. I

734
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: don't think it's a willing to do it.

735
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: But by the way, I will say, Joe, it was

736
00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: seventy three and a half.

737
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: That's what we had, will double check e seventy three

738
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: and a half.

739
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: Correct, it just dropped to seventy two and a half.

740
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: So now I'm even going more because again.

741
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: In the middle of this conversation, wait, I checked before,

742
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: right before it was any that's what we do.

743
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: We moved here at ed Bruce.

744
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: I'm going and again I you know, as I said,

745
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: the consent assign now has moved to seventy two and

746
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: a half. There are seventy three and a half, so

747
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: it's basically right in between. But for me again, I'm

748
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: a New Hampshire DraftKings seventy two and a half, juiced

749
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: a little bit towards the over, so I get it,

750
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: but I'm taking it with seventy th and a half

751
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: all day long, all.

752
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: Right, last one here Detroit Tiger sixty eight and a

753
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: half spoiler alert under for me, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm

754
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: just not buying this like I'm just this is a

755
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: very competitive division. It's a deep division. Yeah, And I

756
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: actually feel better about this under than I feel about

757
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: the Baltimore under by a long shot, because I'm getting

758
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: four games difference here. So I'm gonna hammer an al

759
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: under on a terrible team. The Tigers are the one

760
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: to me because this is one of the tougher divisions

761
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: where I think all the teams ahead of them are

762
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: just clearly a cut above. So that's my take, and

763
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: I just don't think the rest of this team is

764
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: ready to take over yet. They're gonna be a fun

765
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: team in a couple of years, and that sounds great,

766
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: but you know what, it's twenty one, so it's not

767
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: happening this year.

768
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: That is the correct answers. I used to like to

769
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: say on the fantas side, I agree with you. I'm

770
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: under on this too. And I feel bad because like

771
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: it feels so easy to take these horrible teams and

772
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: they've got really low wind totals and you're just like.

773
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: No, I don't care, it's not low enough. But I agree.

774
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: And again the Tigers, basically they've come out and said

775
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: what they're doing.

776
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: They're like, we are lowing our payroll. We don't want

777
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: to you know, We're.

778
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: We're slashing prices.

779
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: We are overloaded with the Migey contract. So we've got

780
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: these guys.

781
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: On one year deals. We will sell them all off

782
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: at the deadline. We will wait for our young kids

783
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: to be here.

784
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: They have no.

785
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: Interest in trying to be competitive this year. They have

786
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: very little talent on their team. So sixty eight and

787
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: a half they were at a sixty four win pace

788
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: I believe last year. So I agree with you. I

789
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: know it's the bottom feeders, but I will take the

790
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: under them both.

791
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the west here. The

792
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: Houston Astros are at the time top of it. Theoretically

793
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: with eighty seven and a half. They just lost fran

794
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: Bervaldez probably for the season. I guess they probably were

795
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: still waiting to figure that out.

796
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: Forrest Whitley, by the way, where a fractured finger takes

797
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: you out for the whole.

798
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: Man, I saw that thing. I saw the fractured finger,

799
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: was like, oh, well he'll be behind. And then like

800
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: twenty four hours later as he could miss the whole season,

801
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: and I thought, what I can imagine if this was

802
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: in the sixties or the fifties, they would say like, well,

803
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: just just patch it back up and go pick pitch.

804
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: Seven years with no thumb, how do you think he

805
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: did that? Let me tell you something good.

806
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: Oh god, so old, I'm so sorry. Everybody.

807
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: A forward pitch, it's a. It's a baseball reference. But anyway,

808
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: the rotations falling apart, and we haven't even started. Like

809
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: Forrest Whitley has got the UCL so he's done.

810
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: Forget that.

811
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: Second opinion is gonna be the same as the first opinion,

812
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: which is gonna be Tommy John and I think the

813
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: Astros are gonna be good. I just want to stay

814
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: away from the Astros again. I see too many variables here,

815
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: and when I see lots of different outcomes with the team,

816
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: and this could be a team that smashes this number.

817
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: They could win ninety four games this year. Yeah, I'm

818
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: telling you they have this kind of talent still on

819
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 1: this roster. If Alvarez bounces back, if Altuve is right

820
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: and plays one hundred and fifty games, if they get

821
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: Zach Greenki to really lead this rotation, and maybe mccollor's

822
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: or somebody else steps up in that void. But there's

823
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: too many bots. And that's my problem with the Astro

824
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: so eighty seven and a half, Sorry, I'm out. I'm

825
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: not nearly as excited as I was about the White Sox.

826
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: So your turn, Astros eighty seven and a half, What

827
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: are you doing?

828
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, I'm going over.

829
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: I feel less happy about it after the Cramberg Valdez

830
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: injury for sure, and obviously Whitley, but I'm still over again.

831
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: This is a Pakoda sort of variance, not that I

832
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: live and die by Pokoda or anything like that, but there.

833
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: Sounds like you do I don't. I just think you've

834
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: got stock in Pakota after this show.

835
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind it.

836
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is that when there's a huge

837
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: difference between Pakoda and the Window, like, there's a reason

838
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: that I try to sort of dig into why that is.

839
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: And again, sometime they undervalue the Braves all the time,

840
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: and the Rays too, so they're not the be all

841
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: in all. But I do like Houston and again the

842
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: Imber Valdez like that. That's terrible. But that whole lineup

843
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: is going to bounce back, right like everybody like Bregman

844
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: and altuvan krah And you saw even in the playoffs

845
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: how Altu van Kraa already did kind of bounce back.

846
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: So I expect the lineup to be really good again

847
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: if Alvarez is healthy.

848
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 3: Finally Tucker is in there ready to go.

849
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: So I like the lineup a lot and their ritation

850
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: again they immediately went out and signed Oderezi right like

851
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: immediately sort of did that to sort of say, okay,

852
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: well we've got to figure it out. And I don't

853
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: love Oderezy, but he'll give you innings. And then the

854
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: rest of it is finer. Kiati Is is not terrible,

855
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: Javier is fine. I like mccullors as a bounce back, really,

856
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 2: I do, and with Granky, So for me, this is

857
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: a team who I realized, like there's no Verlander anymore,

858
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: of course, and then they lost Valdez and all that,

859
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: but it still strikes me as a team where the

860
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: lineup is good enough, the management is good enough. I

861
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: think actually Dusty Baker now has become from this guy

862
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: who burned out all his pitchers to a guy who

863
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: is kind of like listening to analytics at this point

864
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 2: from what I can tell.

865
00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: So I like it.

866
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna go. I think they're more of

867
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: a ninety one team, so I will go with you

868
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: over here. Even with the Valdez injury.

869
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: My biggest disappointment is I don't get to sing my

870
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: song about Franber Valdez because on the DFS show last year,

871
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: it was always Framber was the color of my energy

872
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: all the time, and I would sing that song and

873
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: every time he had a quality start, which was a lot,

874
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: and I made a lot of money. What franber Valdez

875
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: last year? So Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim eighty three

876
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: and a half. Ooh, another team. This is really whether

877
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: or not you believe in doing Bundy. I'm telling you

878
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: right now. If you believe in doing Bundy, then you

879
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: like this over if you and show hey, O Tommy,

880
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: if you think those guys are going to throw I

881
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: don't know, one hundred and let's say three hundred innings

882
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: between them, let's say one hundred and fifty for each

883
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: let's throw that out there, or one hundred and I

884
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: like some combination one sixty one forty. I don't care

885
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do. If you believe in those

886
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: two guys, I think you liked the eighty three and

887
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: a half. Otherwise I think this is the same old Angels, like, yeah,

888
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: it looks like it could be good. Maybe, but at

889
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's the pitching that said

890
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: they're undoing.

891
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: I'm happy I get to do this because we were

892
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: joking about me in Pokoda Pakoda has them at eighty

893
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: six wins and I love the under here okay.

894
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,959
Speaker 3: At eighty the eighty three, wow, I like the under

895
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: a lot. I don't get it with this. I just don't.

896
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: I don't get it. They haven't. I don't think they've

897
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: gone over this number.

898
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: I don't know. All I know is Mike Trout has

899
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: three playoff appearances?

900
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 3: What since fifteen? Twenty fifteen? I just looked it up.

901
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: Twenty fifteen was the last time that they have gone

902
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: over eighty three and a half wins. And I don't

903
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: understand what is so exciting about this year where suddenly

904
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: we're like, look at this team, Okay, look at.

905
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: The improvements we had. What are the improvements?

906
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: Like, I like, Dylan, Buddy, there's no way I'm relying

907
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: on shoe Aotani by the way, There's just no way.

908
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: And like, okay, is this the year Andrew Heeney is

909
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: finally gonna stay healthy and really take that next step.

910
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 2: Hosea Jose Kintana, you know what he is at this point,

911
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 2: he'll give you. It's like they were just I kudos

912
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: to them for basically being like, we are going to

913
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: make up for our lack of top end talent by

914
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: just throwing a thousand pictures in there, and so like.

915
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: When we lose one, we can throw another mediocre start.

916
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: I like Griffin Canning, but I don't expect them necessarily

917
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 2: to stay healthy the whole year. And Cobb, I mean,

918
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: at this point, their rotation just isn't good. I like

919
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: that they added a Glaciers, but they're bullpen still as

920
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: a whole is not great. Defensively they are bad. They

921
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 2: lost Andrelton Simmons as well. So really, I just don't

922
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: get this team. This is not a five hundred team.

923
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: To me, I don't understand it. And I again, I

924
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: think the A's are again going to be good, and

925
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: we'll talk about them in a minute. And I like

926
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: the Astros a lot more so. Maybe it's that, but

927
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: I do not understand that. I love the under end

928
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: this one. I'm not going near the eighty three and

929
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: a half wins under all that.

930
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: I thought they should have signed Trevor Bower. I thought

931
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: that was the thing.

932
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: Why aren't they going out there and signing like a

933
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: really really top end pitcher, you know what? Instead they

934
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: do they're like, let's just add a mediocre outfielderer like

935
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: that that's sort of there. You know, they have so

936
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: much money, go out and assign the top end of

937
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: the rotation starter Already.

938
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: It's puzzling, to say the least. The Oakland A is

939
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: also always undervalued. Every year now a little less, so

940
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: this year, eighty six and a half is the number

941
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: this actually feels about right now. Here's the thing. If

942
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: you can find eighty five and a half somewhere or

943
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: even something lower, at some point, I would think about that.

944
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: Here's what the A's for me is. If this young

945
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: pitching all clicks ye, if it's aj Puck, if it's

946
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: Hazel's Lozardo, if Montas bounces back, they're gonna crush this.

947
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, they're gonna be probably fighting with Houston

948
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: for the top of this division. If you're pitching does

949
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: what they're capable of? The question is innings. The question

950
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: is the war of attrition, and if the A's are

951
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: up to the task. So I'll ask you do you

952
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: think they are?

953
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: I think so, yeah.

954
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: I mean I don't feel as strongly about it as

955
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: I do on the Angels.

956
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: And again, they're at eighty six. Everywhere. Every book is

957
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: eighty six at this point. So this is eighty six

958
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 3: and a half. That's we're going to get it again.

959
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: This is one I'm just pointing it out because we

960
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: were teasing about me that this is one where Pokoda

961
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: is under, like significantly under. But again, this is one

962
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: where I think they just don't whatever their projection system is,

963
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: they don't know how to capture what these teams are

964
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 2: that are so forward thinking. And yeah, I like again

965
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: another one where like the whole is greater than the

966
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: some of their parts, you know.

967
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: Their rotation.

968
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: As you mentioned, Bassett is kind of a sneaky, decent

969
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: major league starter, right Lozardo who we like for the upside.

970
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: I really like Frankie Montass. Sounds like he's recovered from

971
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: the COVID nineteen. Shan Manya obviously is there. Mike Fires

972
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: is all there. They're all fine. They you know, they

973
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: lost Hendrix, but they've got Rosenthal. He's battling a groin

974
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: injury right now, but sounds like he'll be okay. The

975
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: lineup as a whole is just solid. It doesn't blow

976
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: you away, but they find ways to sort of do it.

977
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: And they added Elvis Andris. It's basically been a ninety

978
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: seven win team. You give them their pace from last

979
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: year for three straight seasons, Like, this is just a

980
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: team that knows how to win games. They're well coached,

981
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 2: they're well managed. So eighty six and a half, I

982
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: lean towards the over. I'm not as excited about it

983
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: again as I am about the under on the Angels,

984
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: but this is the one where I lean definitely towards

985
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: the over.

986
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: Okay, two other teams here before we close things out.

987
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 1: We got the Seattle Mariners at seventy two and a half.

988
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: Tricky one because we're excited about some of the young talent.

989
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: But this kind of sounds like something we saw about

990
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: before with some of these other teams, Like, Yeah, I'm

991
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: excited about Detroit's youug talent, but where are the wins?

992
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: Seventy two and a half once again? Kind of feels

993
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: about right, Yeah, ten games under five hundred. Yeah, that

994
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: sounds like the Marinders to me.

995
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 3: Yep.

996
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: So it's a hard pass for me. How about for you?

997
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 3: Man?

998
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: I love it when we disagree on things, but I

999
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: do not disagree with you here.

1000
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: This is like a hard pass from me.

1001
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: There's a line that I say to my wife when

1002
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: we're joking, which is a line from Brooklyn nine nine,

1003
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: which is after zero consideration, I can confidently say hard pass.

1004
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 3: And that's basically how I feel on this.

1005
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 2: Like I looked at this and I was like, yeah,

1006
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: I guess it could all go really well, but no,

1007
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: this is like ten games under five hundred.

1008
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 3: It's exactly what this team.

1009
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: I mean, not ten games, but ten games you know,

1010
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: over what it would take to get to five hundred.

1011
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: That's exactly what this team looks like to me, So

1012
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: hard pass, staying far away from it, no interest in

1013
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: betting it either way.

1014
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: And then there's a Texas Rangers sixty seven and a half,

1015
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: another one too, where I just don't see him mat

1016
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes with a team, you want to see

1017
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: a plan. I have no idea what the Rangers plan is.

1018
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: The Rangers have no idea what their plan is. I

1019
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: see Joey Gallo, I see some home runs. I see

1020
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: they'll probably win somewhere around I don't know. Sixty seven games.

1021
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: Once again, just hard passway because I don't I don't

1022
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: see how they get above it, and it's already too

1023
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: low of a number where if I had to lean

1024
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: I probably lean slightly on the over here, just because like,

1025
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: I just don't know if they're closer to losing one

1026
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: hundred games as this total is telling you. But then again,

1027
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: you look at the rest of this rotation, you go,

1028
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: oh maybe, I mean, this is another rotation that is

1029
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 1: it's brutal. They are the pitching haves and have nots,

1030
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: and I just think over one sixty two this year

1031
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: off the COVID season, where people don't have any stamina,

1032
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: it is going to be glaringly obvious, which is why

1033
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: I keep coming back to Cleveland because Cleveland does have that,

1034
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: and I think that is a huge separator where if

1035
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna give you a five hundred Cleveland team, you

1036
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: take your shot on that one because it's a good

1037
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,479
Speaker 1: chance that that pitching wins out over the long haul.

1038
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: But the Texas Rangers sixty seven and a half, I'm out,

1039
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: where are you?

1040
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: And it's a good point on Cleveland.

1041
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: By the way, I think that's try every now and

1042
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: then something smart once everyone.

1043
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 3: Show firshit, I look, this is something.

1044
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: Where I like you, this is not like one of

1045
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: my favorite bets on the board, I actually have forced

1046
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: to choose. I would lean under there are sixty six

1047
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 2: and a half's out there, so if you know at

1048
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: that point, especially stay away. Sixty seven and a half,

1049
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: I kind of lean under. Again, this is a team

1050
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: that a does not seem to have interest in competing

1051
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 2: this year. The bullpen is really bad. Jose Leclerk, I

1052
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: guess will Close, and I Jonathan Hernandez now I just

1053
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 2: today has something apparently with his jucll and his elbow.

1054
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: So the bullpen really is not going to be good.

1055
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 2: The offense, I like Willie Calhoun, and I like Joey.

1056
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: Gallo, and that's about it.

1057
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: And the rotation is just yeah, it's I mean, I

1058
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: like Dane Dunning, you know, as a long term guy,

1059
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: and but yeah, Kyle Gibson is your number one.

1060
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: That's just not gonna work.

1061
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: So, oh god, I.

1062
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 3: Would lean under.

1063
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: I would lean under, but I'm not nearly as strong

1064
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: as the Tigers and the Orioles, the bottom feeders of

1065
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: those divisions. I like those much more so. Mostly a

1066
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: stay away from me, but I had, if I had

1067
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: to choose, I would lean under.

1068
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,440
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1069
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,560
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1070
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,600
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1071
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,880
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1072
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:10,640
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1073
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: Uh these days, We've got so much March Madness stuff

1074
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: that's about to drop.

1075
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: It's going to be awesome.

1076
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: We're gonna have this bracket optimizer, which I'm not even

1077
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: gonna tell you about yet because I'm gonna wait till

1078
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: the launches where it is going to be spectacular. You

1079
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 2: are going to be able to fill out a bracket

1080
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: depending on where your play and your your scoring system

1081
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: that they warred points on it, depending on the size

1082
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: of your pool.

1083
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 3: You can start with a.

1084
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: Consensus sort of picks of people who have put in brackets.

1085
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: If you like, trust a bunch of people like we

1086
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: do with consensus experts. It is going to be spectacular.

1087
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: Be on the lookout for the bracket optimizer. We will

1088
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: have more about that next week.

1089
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: I need a life optimizer. Let's let's get working on that.

1090
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: We get the life optimizer and then we're then we're

1091
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: all set.

1092
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: So we're in works for it for you. But it's

1093
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 3: like forty years in development, so we got.

1094
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not going anywhere. I have a very long

1095
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: term contract here Just to recap too, I am very

1096
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: bullish on the White Sox and the Indians. That's where

1097
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: really I'm looking Dan. Final thoughts here as we close

1098
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: the close the door on the American League win totals.

1099
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the Royals over.

1100
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 2: I think this team is definitely going to be closer

1101
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: to five hundred than people are giving them credit for.

1102
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: At the same time, I really like the under on

1103
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 2: the Angels because.

1104
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: I do not get it.

1105
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: They are poor defensively, the rotation is mediocre at best.

1106
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: The bullpen is just okay. So those are my two

1107
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: favorite over on the Royals under on the Angels.

1108
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for us, but the story

1109
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: of the game goes on. For Dan Harris, I'm Joe Pizzapia.

1110
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: We'll see you next time, kids,