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Speaker 1: Now Here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And Welcome back to Journalist. Michael Brown is the author

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Speaker 2: of thirty books, known initially for his groundbreaking report on

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Speaker 2: the Love Canal toxic crisis, and for the past thirty

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Speaker 2: two plus years his writings have been on the supernatural, prophetic, paranormal,

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Speaker 2: including best selling The Final Hour, The Other Side, and Witness.

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Speaker 2: He has also penned books on everything from the Mafia

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Speaker 2: to the search for the first anatomically modern human woman

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Speaker 2: using DNA The Search for Eve. In his days as

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Speaker 2: a journalist, his work appeared in magazines such as The

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Speaker 2: New York Times Magazine, The Atlantic, Monthly Readers, Digest, Discover, Science, Digest,

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Speaker 2: American Health, Rolling Stone in New York. He's appeared on

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Speaker 2: shows like The Today Show, Nightline, Phil Donahue, Joan Rivers,

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Speaker 2: Sally Jesse, Raphael and of course Coast to Coast AM, Michael,

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Speaker 2: welcome back. How have you man?

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Speaker 3: Nice to be with you pretty well and how about yourself?

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Speaker 2: All good? Looking forward to this and great book. Future

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Speaker 2: of it makes you think, doesn't it?

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Speaker 3: Well? You know, we face a lot. I think everyone

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Speaker 3: senses that, whether whether or not they you know, subscribe

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Speaker 3: to the prophetic. Something is afoot. You know, you can

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Speaker 3: feel it, the quote vibe unquote out there, And yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I also think we're getting the precursors, the

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Speaker 3: pre signs in various events in nature and war and

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Speaker 3: so forth.

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Speaker 2: You're on coast to coast about twenty six years ago

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Speaker 2: with Art Bell A long time ago.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I was with Art and we talked about what

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Speaker 3: was coming. And someone we talked about has already transpired,

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Speaker 3: and of course there's more to transpire yet.

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Speaker 2: How did you get involved in writing about prophecy?

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Speaker 3: Well, I went over to a I'm a Catholic and

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Speaker 3: conservative type Catholic, and I went over to a place

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Speaker 3: where the Virgin Mary was allegedly appearing with prophecies with

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Speaker 3: secrets at John Paul the Second. The Pope had called

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Speaker 3: it the fulfillment of Fatima, the famous apparitions in Portugal

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Speaker 3: in nineteen seventeen, and I went over there. When I

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Speaker 3: got there, I thought it was all a fraud. I

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Speaker 3: thought it was collective hallucination or something like that, self deception.

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Speaker 3: And because people would say, look up at the mountain,

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Speaker 3: you see that cross, it's disappearing, or it's spinning. And

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Speaker 3: look at the sun. It's pulsing again, like Fatima in Portugal.

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Speaker 3: And I'd look up there and I wouldn't see the

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Speaker 3: cross spinning. I wouldn't see it disappearing. I didn't see

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Speaker 3: anything from the sun. And I was thinking, what am

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Speaker 3: I going to do here for a week. There's not

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Speaker 3: even a good bar in town. And yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden things started to happen to me,

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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, I start seeing those things

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Speaker 2: In nineteen seventeen, three young children in Portugal saw what

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Speaker 2: they claim to be the blessed Virgin Mary come down

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Speaker 2: and give them three prophetic signs. Tell me about your

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Speaker 2: thoughts of Fatima.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's probably along with a situation in

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Speaker 3: famous of appearances of the Virgin Mary. And there, as

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Speaker 3: you said, I mean it was prophetic. There were three

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Speaker 3: secrets given, and the first two had to do with

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Speaker 3: another one in the near future of mankind didn't convert

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Speaker 3: and stop in its errent ways, ways that were in

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Speaker 3: a sobering way similar to ours right now. And also

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Speaker 3: it had prophesied the rise of communism atheism in Russia

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Speaker 3: not divulged. A third part of it, the third secret

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Speaker 3: of Fatima, that finally was revealed by Pope John Paul

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Speaker 3: earth as if to set it aflame. And this was very,

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Speaker 3: very intriguing, of course, because like I said, the first

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Speaker 3: And at any rate, this third secret, though, seemed to

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Speaker 2: And perhaps it hasn't even happened yet then, Michael.

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Speaker 3: That's right, it hasn't happened yet. But George, the fascinating

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Speaker 3: And if you want, I'll read that short elucidation that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, please please.

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Speaker 3: It was in nineteen forty four, and she was stressed

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Speaker 2: And why did she hold back so long?

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Speaker 3: Because she felt that she was being told by Christ,

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Speaker 3: And in him I saw and heard. And here's the point,

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Speaker 3: caused destructive wars. So it was saying, yes, there's worse

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Speaker 3: especially intriguing to us who subscribe to Marion what they

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Speaker 3: especially interesting to us because A major more recent sere

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Speaker 3: touched lamps like by an angel.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe Fatima could be an extraterrestrial events?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't. I have a different take. A lot

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Speaker 3: of times. I've been kind of I'm seventy one now.

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Speaker 3: I've been following UFOs and so forth since the mid

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Speaker 2: Back to the secrets of Fatima. So they reveal this

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Speaker 3: Well, No, she was in the year two thousand. She

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Speaker 3: was told by Heaven that she could release the secret

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Speaker 3: after the year nineteen sixty, but not before but she

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Speaker 2: If you've interviewed dozens of scientists about these events, meteorologists, seismologists,

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Speaker 2: what do they conclude.

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Speaker 3: Well, what was amazing, George, is that in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 3: it was going to look at what may becoming in

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Speaker 3: interviewed meteorologists and astronomers and clinatologists and volcanologists, and I

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Speaker 3: no matter of the realm, scientists in the field we're saying,

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Speaker 3: like clockwork to me that we were overdue for major

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Speaker 3: I'm certainly totally convinced that we approach truly major changes

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Speaker 2: It's kind of frightening, though, is that it, Michael.

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Speaker 3: It's it's frightening I think for those who aren't prepared

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Speaker 3: the coronavirus, pandemics and so forth. Yeah, it's very interesting.

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Speaker 3: A pandemic killed two of the three seers of Fatima.

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Speaker 3: don't know how many is it killed at least five million,

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Speaker 3: maybe up closer to ten. But that's still not what

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Speaker 3: happened in nineteen eighteen through nineteen twenty. And it shows

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Speaker 3: you how we're only seeing the glimmerings of future events.

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Speaker 2: Well, they had no medicines in those days, Michael.

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Speaker 3: They had no medicines, and you know, for what may

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Speaker 3: be coming in the future, I don't think we will either.

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Speaker 3: Major things are are are going to occur, and you know,

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Speaker 3: it's like repetition. So you know, strap in, hold on

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Speaker 2: Is it end times prophecy?

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Speaker 3: You can call it that, and you can you can

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Speaker 3: call it that if if you choose, because we're approaching

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Speaker 3: A lot of times people think right away with m

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Speaker 3: Times that it's the end of the world, But there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of interpretations of en Times that are not

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Speaker 3: the end of the world, but rather the end of

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Speaker 3: what's going on right now in the world in a

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Speaker 3: way that perhaps hasn't been seen in hundreds or thousands

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Speaker 3: of years. And I think in this case, we're going

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Speaker 3: to see some geophysical events, and those of us who

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Speaker 3: live along enough, I don't know if I count among them,

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Speaker 3: but we're going to see some geophysical and other events

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Speaker 3: that are beyond momentous, because I think they're going to

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Speaker 3: be things that are not in recorded history.

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Speaker 2: The nineteen ninety prophecy. Tell me more about that.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was something that was given anonymously, and to

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Speaker 3: this day the person will not you know, it doesn't want

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Speaker 3: the name revealed. I became privy to it because I

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Speaker 3: was doing that book. You mentioned the Final Hour, which

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Speaker 3: I was on with Art years ago to discuss, and

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Speaker 3: in the Final Hour I mentioned that this is you know,

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Speaker 3: this is someone who doesn't want anything revealed about him.

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Speaker 3: But I read it at the time and there are

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Speaker 3: aspects that have come true in it. And it started

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Speaker 3: out it said in four years, there will arise a

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Speaker 3: new evil, the likes of which mankind has never before encountered.

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Speaker 3: It will arrive almost imperceptibly, with few people noticing the

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Speaker 3: depth of its evil, for it will appear to have

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Speaker 3: beneficial and convenient aspects. It is an evil comparable to abortion.

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Speaker 3: That is to say that even if evils is great

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Speaker 3: and widespread, as abortion were to be eliminated, this is

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Speaker 3: enough of an evil that it would present mankind with

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Speaker 3: an enormous challenge. I'll go on from there in a

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Speaker 3: second to what will happen according to this prophecy. But

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Speaker 3: let's take that, George, because four years from that time.

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Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety four, there were suddenly major movements in

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Speaker 3: the realm of genetic manipulation, creating embryos in laboratories. There

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Speaker 3: was suddenly federal funding for it under the administration there

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Speaker 3: Bill Clinton, and there were scientific breakthroughs making it plausible

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Speaker 3: to be able to replicate the human embryo. And so

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Speaker 3: as a result of that, it's said here if you

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Speaker 3: believe in this prophecy, that there would be chastisements, if

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Speaker 3: you will, and it's said these chansdisements will differ according

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Speaker 3: to regions, and like the great evil, will not always

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Speaker 3: usually be immediately noticeable for what they are. In the period.

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Speaker 3: Also will be a warning that involves not fire from

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Speaker 3: the sky, but fear of fire from the sky and

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Speaker 3: strange loud rumblings. This, according to Mankind's response, will then

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Speaker 3: be followed by another chastisement, or the inevitable onset of

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Speaker 3: the change of era. Your era is ending. Soon the

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Speaker 3: world will not be the world you know. I am

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Speaker 3: not speaking of a barren world or one depopulated, but

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Speaker 3: at the end of your technological era, many inventions of

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Speaker 3: mankind will be broken down, and there will be more

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Speaker 3: of a peasant attitude and way of life everywhere. After

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Speaker 3: this breakdown of false society will come persecution of Christians

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Speaker 3: in also a new world order.

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