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The Putin regime in Russia 20 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: has announced new strikes all across Ukraine, and specifically on 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: the capital of Kiev in Ukraine, launching missiles, cruise missiles 22 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: and a variety of other air assets against critical energy infrastructure. 23 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: We have a little bit of video that was released 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: by the Russian Ministry of Defense. Here you can launch 25 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: a cruise missile which was launched from Sea Crystal. There 26 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: are two separate missiles that were launched there. That was 27 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: hundreds of missiles that reigned all across the country of Ukraine. 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: That happened in the early hours Washington time. We have 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: a map, actually we can go ahead and put that 30 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: up there on the screen. This is a map that 31 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: just shows you all of the strikes across the entire country. Notably, 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: there is the city of Leviv, which is all the 33 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: way there in the western part of the country near 34 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: the Polish border. That is the major thoroughfare for a 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: lot of the NATO armaments that are making its way 36 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: into Ukraine. So largely untouched city has only been bombed 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: or struck a couple of times. Other places Kiev and 38 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: other five different places across the country in retaliation for 39 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: the Crimeane bridge attack that we're going to be getting 40 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: to a little bit later in the show. Show all 41 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: current indications show that they tried to target critical infrastructure 42 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: and yet as usual, you know, we don't have a 43 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: lot of the footage because things are happening so quickly 44 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: right now, but it's horrific. I mean, you could see 45 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: downtown Kiev in the middle of rush hour being bombed 46 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: maximum retaliation against civilians. There was a children's playground that 47 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: was literally struck. You know, it's supposedly in retaliation. It 48 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: shows you also that the Russian precision guided munitions are 49 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: not as good as or at least they have expended 50 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: some of their best weapons in the early phase of 51 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: the war, moving to less accurate type of munitions, and 52 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: unfortunately it's just waked horrific damage all across the country 53 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: and it is a sign of the escalation in this 54 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: war that unfortunately is a result of Putin has his 55 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: you know, back to the wall, the bridge attack really 56 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: was a big moment for the war, both in the 57 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: way it was received in Russia amongst policymakers. Also Ukraine, 58 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, came after that warning from the US intelligence 59 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: community about Ukraine launching extra judicial assassinations inside of Moscow, 60 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: basically throwing up the flag saying hey, we know that 61 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: you're planning something, maybe don't do it. It's possible that 62 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: this might have been one of the things that they 63 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: were trying to warn them against doing. Regardless, we are 64 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: now in a new phase of the conflict, with Putin 65 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: and others saying the gloves are now coming off and 66 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: all of that. That's exactly right. I mean, for a 67 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 1: while now, the hawkish, most hawkish faction within Russia has 68 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: really been upset with the prosecution of this war. They 69 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: wanted strikes that look a lot more like this. We 70 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: know also, and we can put this up on the screen. 71 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: This is highly relevant. So Russia just appointed a new 72 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: commander for the war in Ukraine. This was sort of 73 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: a different approach to put one person in charge of 74 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: the entire operation. There was a lot of speculation about 75 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: what this meant, but a lot of folks noted this 76 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: dude's Serravikan. I'm going to Govikan. He was known for, 77 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, his veteran of their war, the war in Syria. 78 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: He is known for being sort of a brutal, gloves 79 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: off kind of a guy. No accident that he's put 80 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: in charge, and then just days later you have these 81 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: attacks across all of Ukraine. And I think there's a 82 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: couple things that we know at this point, you know, 83 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: and this is very early. We're just getting details in 84 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: about where exactly these strikes hit and what sort of 85 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: infrastructure they took out. It seems very very clear they 86 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: were designed to take out the electricity and water capabilities 87 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: of Ukrainian civilians or reports of ounages across the entire country. 88 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: And then also, I mean seems very clearly designed to 89 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: sort of terrify the citizenry. The strikes in downtown Kiev. 90 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: This is something we haven't seen since the very beginning 91 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: of this war, when Russia was successfully you know, pushed 92 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: back from those regions. Now you have citizens who in 93 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: Kiev yesterday they were out sort of like enjoying the 94 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: last bits of summer out at that cafe, sort of 95 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: feeling a bit of normalcy in their lives. That is 96 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: now completely upended. And I think it's worth saying we're 97 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: going to get to more with the bridge that Ukraine 98 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: successfully was able to cripple, not completely decimate, but to cripple, 99 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: which was a humiliating strike for Russia. You know, Ukraine 100 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: hit what was a critical piece of infrastructure. This bridge 101 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: was something that was being used by Russia to you know, 102 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: bring troops in to supply their troops. So they're hitting 103 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: a critical piece of sort of military infrastructure. And the 104 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: response here is basically to terrorize citizens. I mean, that's 105 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: really This is supposed to strike fear in the hearts 106 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: of all Ukrainians, and you know, it's it's unfortunately predictable. 107 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: It's something that we've been concerned about for quite a 108 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: while now, as Putin does become increasingly desperate, as on 109 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: so many fronts he's been you know, getting pushed back 110 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: and effectively losing this war. So the Hawkish faction is 111 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: delighted this morning. They've essentially gotten their way. These are 112 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: the types of actions that they have been pushing for 113 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: for quite a long time. Yeah, just to underscore that, 114 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: Ramzan Kadirov, you know, the Putin's type, the leader of Chechnya, 115 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: he put out this message this morning. Quote we warned you, Zelenski, 116 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: Russia hasn't really started yet. Stop complaining like a sucker 117 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: and run away before it gets to you, runs Zelenski, 118 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: without looking back. Now, I am one hundred percent satisfied 119 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: with how the special military operation is conducted. So for context, 120 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: Kadirov was one of those people who was very vocally 121 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: criticizing the Russian military and Putin for not taking the 122 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: gloves off. He's saying he is now quote one hundred 123 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: percent satisfied, meaning and this also fits into what I 124 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: think controlled opposition in the Kremlins looks like, which is 125 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: that they allow all the piece nicks are either drafted 126 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: or thrown into prison. Everybody who's the most hawkish, they're 127 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: allowed to have face, and then they're like, hey, we're 128 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: just listening to the criticism, and that criticism happens to 129 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: be we should continue to escalate the war now. Putin 130 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: actually gave a speech early this morning Washington Time where 131 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: he specifically said that this was in retaliation for the 132 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: quote terrorist attack at the Kirch Bridge in Crimea. He 133 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: says that Russia's military head quote used long range, high 134 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: precision air, sea and land based dismissiles in the strike 135 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: and warned he was going to repeat them. He claimed 136 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: that the targets were military. He says, if attempts to 137 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: carry out terrorist attacks on our territory continue, Russia's response 138 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: will be severe and at the level of the threats 139 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: that are facing it nobody should be in any doubt. 140 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: That was on top of a message that was put 141 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: out by Medvedev, who was used to be the president 142 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: of Rushi kind of the caretaker, and that fake scheme 143 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: to legitimize Putin as the autocratic ruler for basically his 144 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: entire life. He put out a message on telegram also 145 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: saying that the strikes on Ukraine are quote the first episode, 146 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: and that quote there will be more. He said that 147 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: Russia is working to dismantle the Ukrainian political regime. On 148 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: top of that, President Zelenski actually appearing above ground in 149 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: Kiev making it clear like we're not going to be intimidated. 150 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: He says, we are dealing with terrorists, dozens of missiles 151 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: and Iranian drones. They have targets, energy facilities throughout the country. 152 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: Such time and targets were specifically chosen to cause as 153 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: much damage which as possible, and he said the Kiev 154 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: will survive all of these Ukrainian attacks. Let's turn to 155 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: the domestic front. Some big news also from President Biden 156 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: last week. Let's go and put this up on the screen. 157 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: So this is a fulfilling of a campaign pledge he made. 158 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: Is from the AP they say, Biden pardons thousands for 159 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: simple possession of marijuana. Let me read you some of 160 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: the details here. So President Biden pardoning those Americans convicted 161 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: of simple possession of marijuana under federal law. And that's 162 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: important as his administration takes a dramatic step, they say, 163 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: towards decriminalizing the drug and addressing charging practices that disproportionately 164 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: impact people of color. His move also covers thousands convicted 165 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: of the crime in DC, and he is calling on 166 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: governors to issue similar pardons for those convicted of state 167 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: state marijuana offenses, which reflect the vast majority of marijuana 168 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: possession cases. The real news here, I think because ultimately 169 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: there's no one in federal prison for simple possession of marijuana. Now, 170 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: this will be significant for people who have convictions and 171 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: they're struggling to get jobs or housing or those sorts 172 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: of things. It will be helpful ultimately for them. But 173 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: I think the biggest, most significant news here is that 174 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: he also is looking at rescheduling marijuana. He's directing the 175 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: Secretary of Health and Human Services in the US Attorney 176 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: General to review how marijuana is scheduled under federal law. 177 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: Rescheduling the drug would reduce or potentially eliminate criminal penalties 178 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: for possession. Currently, marijuana is a Schedule one drug, so 179 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: it's alongside things like heroin and LSD, which is insane, 180 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: but it is a head of fentanyl and methamphetamine. The 181 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: White House didn't set a timeline for the review, so 182 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: ultimately that would be the biggest and most significant shift 183 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: in terms of drug policy if it was ultimately rescheduled, 184 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: and it also is we're saying, I mean, this is 185 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: a dramatic departure from how Biden has approached marijuana and 186 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: every other substance throughout the entirety of his career. I mean, 187 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: he really prided himself on being a drug warrior. Of course, 188 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: we all know is very involved in that nineteen ninety 189 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: four Federal Sentencing Act, so he has been very, very tough. 190 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: And even his own administration, remember they tossed down a 191 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: bunch of people who had been like who had smoked weed. 192 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: They were like fired for admitting that they had ultimately 193 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: smoked weed. So this is a really significant philosophical, I 194 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: think shift for Biden. I would say, undertaken under pressure 195 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: based on a campaign promise and with the understanding that 196 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: the midterms are coming up, and this is a very 197 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: clear political winner. Hear'm in the polling on this is clear. 198 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: Let's go in and put this morning Console poll up 199 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: on the screen. Sixty percent of voters say marijuana should 200 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: be made legal entirely. So that's going way further than 201 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: Biden is going here with this order, compared with only 202 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: twenty seven percent who say it should not be. And 203 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: so this is really across demographics, even Republicans. That's plurality support. 204 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: Even among the oldest demographics, it's plurality support. And it's 205 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: most popular among young people. You're talking about like seventy 206 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: percent support and only seventeen percent a pose among young voters, 207 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: and also among black voters as well. So for people 208 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: who care about this is significant issue, and it's just 209 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: like such a clear political winner that it's kind of 210 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: astonishing it hasn't been done yet. It is interesting, you know, 211 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: much to my chagrin that all of this is happening. 212 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: I do want to reiterate that there is not a 213 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: single person in federal prison for simple marijuana possession. I 214 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: will not deny that there are horrific, unjust tragedies that 215 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: have happened over the years at the state level, of 216 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: which I've always made clear I'm one hundred percent against. 217 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody should be in jail for marijuana possession. 218 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: I do think that the HHS thing is going to 219 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: be interesting. So I read up a little bit about this, 220 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: which is that the reality is that HHS civil servants 221 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: are the ones who are in charge of this decision. 222 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: They are required by federal law to review the scheduling 223 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: of marijuana and all controlled substances every five to ten years, 224 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: of which eight factors of analysis must be required to 225 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: meet to de schedule marijuana has never reached those fact 226 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: quote unquote failed on all of those factors around the 227 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: way that the definitions have said regarding harm, etc. Now, 228 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: I don't even disagree that Schedule one status, especially given 229 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: what's not scheduled one, doesn't make any gods saw I 230 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: am fully. I want to be very very clear. The 231 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: reason why that this matters from a bureaucratic point of 232 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: view is that the HHS recommendation is actually binding for 233 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice. So this isn't really something that 234 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: you can just do without the You essentially need whoemever, 235 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: the equivalent of the parliamentarian of the AGHS is that 236 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: guy or those guys and girls have to sign off 237 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: before the DOJ were to make anything. Now, of course, 238 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: the dj can also change its policy about what it 239 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: will and will not prosecute, but I'm speaking specifically on 240 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: what the overhalling policy is. And I also will say 241 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: part of why I'm deeply skeptical of all of this 242 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: is I think all of this is being done on 243 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: behalf of the marijuana industry, of which is completely unregulated 244 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: and of which there have been insane It's essentially like 245 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: the supplement industry. They have no idea what you're getting. 246 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: I'll just reiterate my friend Andrew Heubertman. He's got a 247 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: great podcast on cannabis which I recommend everybody go and 248 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 1: listen to. I'm not gonna sit here and say it's safe. 249 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't think alcohol is safe either. Personally, I don't 250 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: even drink alcohol anymore. I just want people to know 251 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: that a lot of the claims that the industry is 252 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: making is really all about money. They want marijuana descheduled 253 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: so that they can make a shit ton of money 254 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: by selling it commercially and use the commercial banking system. 255 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know this, but originally the 256 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: way because marijuana is still federally illegal and Schedule one drug, 257 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: they're not eligible for a lot of banking services, so 258 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: they have like special marijuana banks, and it's also a 259 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: high cash industry. That means that they don't get loans. 260 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: They have basically cut off from like the normal financial system, 261 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: almost like OnlyFans. Also was they want that removed so 262 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: they can make a ton of money. There's a lot 263 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: of intrare capitalists corporate and even Pfizer in the big 264 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: drug companies that are eyeing this as a multi billion 265 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: dollar thing. I think it would be the worst thing 266 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: possible in order for that to happen. So I've eventually 267 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: come around to some form of if it's going to 268 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: be legal, I think it should have to be nonprofit. 269 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: There are a couple of countries and other places where 270 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: they have taken profit completely out of it, and they 271 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: make it so on a couple levels. A, you know 272 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: what you're getting. B you're not like using deceptives advertising 273 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: in order to target children. And see which is that 274 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: anytime profit is involved in drugs. I'm just going to 275 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: go ahead and say that things are bad. Yeah, And 276 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: I say the alcohol industry is perhaps one of the 277 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: biggest killers in the United States. And that's no tobacco 278 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: as well. I mean I support that as well. I 279 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: mean your issue really is with capitalism, not yes, I'm 280 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: saying it available of marijuana, you know, directly like and 281 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: there are models within the US too that are promising. 282 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: So we talked about in Rhode Island they have I 283 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: think this got passed. They have sort of landmark legislation 284 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: that would enable their licensing to marijuana businesses. There's some 285 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: percentage that would have to be co ops, so there 286 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: are sort of models that can be employed to make sure. Yeah, 287 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: it's got to be regulated. Obviously, the like illegal black 288 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: market for marijuana right now is not regulated at all, 289 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: and it can be laced with all sorts of things 290 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: which are even more dangerous. So that's a really bad 291 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: situation overall. Obviously, I think this is a really positive 292 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: potential step forward. We'll see what happens with the rescheduling 293 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: being scheduled. One right now is completely I mean, it's 294 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: just totally insane. No one would say that marijuana is 295 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: as addictive or dangerous as like heroin. For one very 296 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: clear example, there have been you know, people who have 297 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: found medical benefits from marijuana as well. So I think 298 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: it's really interesting from political perspective too, that Biden is 299 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: reaching for this just before the midterms, because it does 300 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: show you what a dramatic shift in public opinion there 301 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: has been on this issue over the course of just 302 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: like the past two decades. I mean when just very recently, 303 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: public opinion was completely on the other side of this issue, 304 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: and now you have even some red states which have 305 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: at least decriminalized marijuana has become a very mainstream position. So, 306 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: as I said, I think it's kind of surprising that 307 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: no one politically has reached for this previously. When Biden obviously, 308 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: like I mean, he's still the same guy that he's 309 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: always been, but he sees both with this and I 310 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: think with the student loan debt cancelation as well, where 311 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: the numbers are, where his campaign promises were, and what 312 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: it could ultimately do for him in the midterms. You know, 313 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: I found this this was just a little liment for 314 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: this block up on the screen. I thought this was 315 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: interesting in a Walker Warnock focus group. So the bulk 316 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: of this article from our friend Dan Maren's is about, 317 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, how people are responding to the various herschel 318 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: Blocker scandals and how they think about that race. But 319 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: there was this one little note in here that I 320 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: thought was really interesting. They were interviewing this one woman 321 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: and she said she was neutral on Biden because she 322 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: appreciates the student loan forgiveness but at the same time 323 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: struggling with inflation and nervous about the decline value of 324 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: her investments. And they have this little side note in 325 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: here that Biden's forgiveness of student loans and steps to 326 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: decriminalize marijuana were his most popular policies among the participants, 327 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: who ranged an age from younger to middle aged adults. 328 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 1: These were all people who were sort of they were 329 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: swing voters. I think they were folks who had like 330 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: voted for Biden but also voted for Kemp. That was 331 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: something like that, they'd like divided their votes between Republicans 332 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: and Democrats, and these two policies actually seemed to land 333 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: most with them. Now, it's a focus group, is a 334 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: small group of voters, et cetera, et cetera. But I 335 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: did think it was kind of an interesting note. These 336 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: sorts of things which you know, no one would rank. 337 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: Very few people would rank as like their number one issue. 338 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: They can be disproportionately impactful and motivating for the group 339 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: of voters that really, really ultimately care or impacted. That's 340 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: what Michael Moore always used to say. I think I 341 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a good test case. I cannot 342 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: wait for the election results to come in. Is are 343 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: youth vote going to be up or down? Let's see, 344 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: it's a perfect of like everybody said for years, if 345 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: you do this and the young people will come out 346 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: and vote. This one is not as one to one, 347 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: but I think student loan is pretty one to one. 348 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: Let's figure it out if it's actually true. If it's not, 349 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: then you know we can reform our talking about how 350 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: exactly it will all work out, I'm genuinely pretty skeptical 351 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: just because of where the polls and all that stuff moved, 352 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: and some people people anecdotically say a lot of things. 353 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: Are they really going to break their voting pattern and 354 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: actually come out to vote? I don't know. I mean, 355 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: does anybody really care about weed enough in order to 356 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: come just specifically for possible de scheduling in a couple 357 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: of years. I'm deeply skeptical. That's why I think that 358 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: the student loan one is a good test case, but 359 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: are you going to come out and vote or not. 360 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: I think it's more, you know, people get this sense 361 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: of like people who are more progressive or who are 362 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: directly impacted by this policies, they just get a little 363 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: bit more of a sense of like, Okay, he's doing 364 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: some stuff. It creates a more generally positive impression of 365 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: him for a certain group of voters. Now, I continue 366 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: to think the most important things are going to be 367 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: inflation in the economy and the fact that gas prices 368 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: are probably going back up. I still think that, you know, 369 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: gives Republicans a significant edge ultimately, but I did think 370 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: it was interesting that that was something that was brought 371 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: up by those focus group participants. We're going to talk 372 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: to Kyle Condict today. It's also interesting that Republicans really, 373 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: I think when the student loan debt forgiveness thing happened, 374 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: they really thought they had maybe a winning issue on 375 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: their hands. They're not running any ads on it, but 376 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: neither are Democrats. I mean, it's basically in terms of 377 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: the ad wars not being focused on at all. So 378 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: that's kind of an interesting note as well. Okay, guys, 379 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: we have some updates for you out of Uvaldi. One 380 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: of them good, one of them. I just can't even 381 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: wrap my head around what they continue to do down there. 382 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: Let's go in and put this first part up on 383 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: the screen. So they hired this ex Texas trooper, this woman, yep, 384 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: who was actually at the shooting okay, the day of 385 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: that horrific, unconscionable massacre. She was one of the first 386 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: people into the building after the gunman, and she is 387 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: one of seven troopers who are actively under in investigation 388 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: for their failures on that day. And this woman the 389 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: Uvaldi School district turns around and hires for their specific 390 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: like school district police force. What are you doing now? 391 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: They've since been forced to reverse course because the outcry 392 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: over this, understandably was so loud and so great that 393 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: they had to ultimately, you know, go back and let 394 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 1: go of this woman. But what the hell are they 395 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: ultimately thinking? And by the way, this was not some oversight. 396 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: There were documents that were released that showed that they 397 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: were made aware of the fact that she was there 398 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: and that she was under investigation for her failures on 399 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: that day, and they still sagur went ahead and hired her. Yeah, 400 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: the Uvaldi family victims put out a joint statement saying, quote, 401 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: we are disgusted and angry at Evaldi cisd's decision to 402 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: hire her. Her hiring puts into question the credibility and 403 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: thoroughnesses of their HR and vetting practices. Yeah, you think 404 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: continuing and it confirms what we've been saying all along. 405 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 1: UCID has not and is not in the business of 406 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: ensuring the safety of our children at school. I don't 407 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: think you could possibly deny that. You know, even representatives 408 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: from that area are saying that this trooper was on 409 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: the scene within two minutes and failed to follow a 410 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: training protocol and duty. She was sworn to people's children 411 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: died because officials failed to do their jobs, and then 412 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: she was turned around and hired her. These people, I mean, 413 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: it's like a den of the most like useless rats 414 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: possible all they're capable of doing. Apparently in this CISD 415 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: school district, was you know, covering up both for Pete Rodondo, 416 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: the CISD chief who made the decision not to go 417 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: in the first place, and apparently hire other people who 418 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: are you know, also involved in the cover up, and 419 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: you know Also, what was it intimidating that mom who 420 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: spoke out against their failures? Just this is it's an 421 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: insanity down it really, I mean, I can't explain it 422 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: other than just like total nepotism and like just like 423 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 1: this good old boys and apparently good old girls club 424 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: looking out for each other above any and all other principles. 425 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: She was literally the first DPS member to enter the 426 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: hallway at that elementary school after the shooter gained entry. 427 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: She didn't bring her rifle or her vest into the school, 428 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: according to the results of an internal review. And yet 429 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: this is someone that they thought would be appropriate to 430 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: put on the Valdi School Police District force. So the 431 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: other in the wake of all of this, the more 432 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: positive update here, let's gohead and put this up on 433 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: the screen, long overdue. Evaldi's School District suspends their entire 434 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: police force. The superintendent is also going to retire amid 435 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: fallout from the shooting. I think the superintendent was probably 436 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: involved in some of the cover up here, since it 437 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: seems like everybody in any position of power was involved 438 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: in the cover up here. So they say that the 439 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: school district, still facing withering criticism, announced the suspension of 440 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: their entire district police BACE force on Friday. This is 441 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: actually a relatively small number of people because we're not 442 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: talking about the overall Youfaldi police, which in my opinion, 443 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: everyone who was at that African school and that should 444 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: day should be suspended and ultimately fired. But they're just 445 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: suspending the school district police force, which is like it's 446 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: like four people. There's about six people. Yeah, I mean, 447 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: to be fair, they were the ones who made the 448 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: call not to go into the building. Pete Rodondo specifically, 449 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: I agree, which is that it's not just them. He 450 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: cleared our Dondo is the fall guy, and so is 451 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: the I mean you had federal marshals. Yes, you had Raxas, CPS, 452 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: Border Patrol. I mean, look, we've all seen the photos, 453 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: we've all seen the video about what happened in the hallway. 454 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: Every single person who did not actively try to break 455 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: the commander's protocol and go in should be fired. Yeh. 456 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: And in my opinion, those at the top should be 457 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: criminally prosecuted for negligence and negligent homicide. I know that's 458 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: not how the law works, Supreme Court decision, et cetera. 459 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: I just said, in my opinion, I know that that's 460 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: not going to happen. The point is, though, is that 461 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: there are a hell of a lot more people who 462 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: need to be held to account. And I think a 463 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: lot of Texas authorities are hoping that the world just 464 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: moves on. You know, some people had attention to the story, 465 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: and I get it. You know, we started with Russia 466 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: with all of that. Of course, nuclear issues are always 467 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: going to trump this, but this was a scandal of 468 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: which the country cannot and should not move on from. 469 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: And I think the whole world, you know, put gutt 470 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: and policy aside. What did we all agree on? These 471 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: people have got to pay, and so you know, until 472 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: they do, I don't think that we should drop it 473 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, exactly. And certainly the parents who lost 474 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: their kids because of the cowardice demonstrated on that day 475 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: have not forgotten. And you know, I think we also 476 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: have to remember all of the public officials who were 477 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: involved in covering this up and lying on behalf of 478 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: the police and trying to make it sound like, oh, 479 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: they were brave and they were out there getting shot 480 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: at and getting injured, and all of this stuff turned 481 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: out to be complete and utter nonsense. So at least 482 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: some tiny, small step forward in terms of accountability, but 483 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: obviously far from what the unconsurable nature of that situation 484 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: ultimately demands. Good morning, everybody, Happy Tuesday. We have an 485 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: amazing show for everybody today. What do we have, Crystal. Indeed, 486 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: we do a lot of important and also interesting stories. 487 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: We have new developments with regards to Russia and Ukraine 488 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: and also our administrations response. We have some very very 489 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: revealing and interesting comments, very prominent official calling for diplomacy, 490 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: something that you rarely hear on cable news, that we're 491 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: going to break all of that down. Also some new 492 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: developments in terms of the stock market, and new regulations 493 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: from the Biden administration with regard to chips being exported 494 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: to China that could be quite significant. This is a 495 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: story even following for a while our relationship with Saudi Arabia. 496 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: Now you have Senator Menendez, who is the chair of 497 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, saying, hey, you know what, 498 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: it's time to stop selling arms. It's extraordinary to the 499 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: saudis huge development, is rationale. All is interesting and revealing 500 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: in and of itself. We'll get to that. And we 501 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: also have an important update for you on a story 502 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: we covered a wild back animal rights activist who had 503 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: been arrested in charged for rescuing two piglets which were 504 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: on the verge of death. They said, in like half 505 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: a dozen FBI agents across state lines, all with regard 506 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: to these two little piglets, expending these incredible federal government resources. 507 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: Why because they're embarrassing the big ag agricultural industrial farming industry. 508 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: So we'll break that all down for you as well. 509 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: We've got to Chipotle workers on who are organizing chipotles 510 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: across the country. So excited about that one. Let's start 511 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: with Ukraine, of course, the most important. After missiles rained 512 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: down not only on Kiev, but really across the entire country, 513 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: hitting critical energy infrastructure, stopping Ukraine actually from exporting energy 514 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: for one of the first times in the war, and 515 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: causing long standing blackouts everywhere. There has been increased calls 516 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: from Ukraine and President Zelenski in order to get allies 517 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: to send them advanced air defense systems. So go ahead 518 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: and put this up there on the screen from the 519 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: Washington Post, which is that the attacks against the cities 520 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: and the key infrastructure actually has galvanized a long standing 521 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: debate amongst Allied countries on exact what exact sophisticated air 522 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: defense systems and critically long range weapons systems that they 523 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: should provide to Ukraine. So going a little bit into this, 524 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: it's complicated because the United States actually does and has 525 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: provided long surface to air missile defense systems known as 526 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: and I don't want to screw this up. For the 527 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: geeks out there NSAMS, the National Advance Surface to Air 528 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: Missile System, they're always very creative with what they say. Now, 529 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: we have actually been providing Ukraine with those systems since July. However, 530 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: we provided them two anti aircraft systems, of which the 531 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: Ukrainians say that they have actually used quite well during 532 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: that attack. Result. Yeah, there's no way to know. The 533 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: Ukrainians claim that they shot down like half of the 534 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: missile missiles that were fired on Ukraine. I don't know. 535 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,479 Speaker 1: Russian say they hit all their r Russia say hit 536 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: all their target. Yeah, who knows what's true and what's not. 537 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: In fact, there was some video showing that there were 538 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: some backfire on the surface air missile system. The problem 539 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: is is that for the United States to provide Ukraine 540 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: with all of the systems that were asked, they are 541 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: going to be asking for Here's the issue. We don't 542 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: have them. It will take quote several years to procure 543 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: and to deliver, as in we literally do not have 544 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: any of the leftovers. What we do have are some 545 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: Soviet era defense systems that officials have said are already 546 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: being familiar to the Ukrainian troops now. Those have been 547 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: provided by Slovakia and a few other of the allies. 548 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: Germany also announced yesterday it will be providing some of 549 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: air defense systems as well. They're known as IRST air 550 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: Defense systems, and said that they would have arrived quote 551 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: in the next few days. However, this is not the 552 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: fullsome nature sure of what the Ukrainians want, because they 553 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: are actually combining what has just happened with air defense 554 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: systems on top of hey, by the way, we also 555 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: need those long range missile systems that you refuse to 556 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: sell us, because they're saying they need to have a 557 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: war of defense to be able to strike on the 558 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: missiles that are targeting them. Well, that brings us into 559 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: a very different strategic territory because we did not provide 560 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: them those weapons systems specifically because we were afraid that 561 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 1: it would sparkle bigger conflicts with Russia. According to Biden, however, 562 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: and let's put the next one up there on the screen. 563 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: Ukraine is very very sadly yeah, we'll say, on their 564 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: part approaching and it is quote weapons wish list as 565 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: the winter approaches. So what we've seen here is that 566 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: on top of their new air defense systems, really what 567 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: they want is to be able to deter critical Ukrainian 568 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: infrastructure strikes, the likes of which that we just saw yesterday. 569 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: The issue is that there is a major conflict in 570 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: Washington to try and separate out any defensive system from 571 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: an offensive system, right, and you can, you can completely 572 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: make sense, which is that in US military doctrine, for example, 573 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: part of the reason we were so against a no 574 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: fly zone is because there's no such thing as just 575 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: declaring a no fly zone. Like if you declare one, 576 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: that means you have to be able to take out 577 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: any of the systems which are going to shoot down 578 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 1: your planes. So now you're in a war of offense, 579 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: even though you're technically in a war of defense. And 580 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: this is going to be the critical debate, I think 581 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: in the next couple of days, given the fervor of 582 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: how people are reacting after the Ukrainian attack. Yeah, so 583 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of interesting context here. First of all, 584 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, in the early days of this war, the 585 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: lens skiing Ull will probably recall this was very upfront 586 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: about what his demands were. What he wanted was making public, 587 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: very public appeals. Those public appeals were sort of dialed 588 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: back over time because he recognized that this was not 589 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: really the most effective way to operate. The demands did 590 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: not go away, but instead of being publicly issued, instead 591 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: it was you know, talking to the administration directly and 592 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: continuing to press for more and war weapons and including 593 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: these missile defense systems and also in the longer range 594 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: missiles that they still are very much pressing for. So 595 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: what was interesting here is the minute effectively that you 596 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: had these Russian strikes across the country, you had a 597 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: concerted public effort from the Ukrainians to ask specifically for 598 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: anti aircraft and anti missile systems to Ukraine. So you 599 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: had the defense minister tweeting the best response to Russian 600 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: missle tears the supply of anti aircraft and anti missile 601 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: systems to Ukraine. This will protect our cities and our people, 602 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: This will protect the future of Europe. You had the 603 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: Foreign Minister tweeting after Russian attacks that we urgently need 604 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: more modern air defense and missile defense systems to save 605 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: innocent lives. You had a presidential advisor tweeting instead of talking, 606 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: we need air defense mlrs, longer range projectiles. And Estonia's 607 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: intelligence chief and we've been covering Estonia, they're very hawkish 608 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: in terms of their approach to this conflict. They also 609 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: are calling for these types of longer range weapons to Ukraine, 610 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: and that's the piece that you know, the Biden administration 611 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: is concerned would be very escalatory, as sober you are indicating, 612 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: the concern over the anti aircraft and anti missile systems 613 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: is less about that escalatory factor and more about just 614 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: not having those systems available and also what we may 615 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: need should we ever get into it. Right, So, the 616 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: idea was that, you know, we would provide them certain 617 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: things that we have been providing, and we would sort 618 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: of fund their ability to procure on their own these 619 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: types of systems, and of course that will, as you indicate, 620 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: take quite a while for those to be developed, and 621 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: then there's the question of training and whether they'll be 622 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: ready to go to effectively utilize those systems. So you know, 623 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: if you're Russia, just think about this, because I'm reading 624 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: reports this morning. You know, the lights and electricity and 625 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: water is basically back on mostly across the country. You know, 626 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,479 Speaker 1: there's no doubt that this first of all, killed people, 627 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: including civilians, and that this you know, was a terrifying 628 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: situation for Ukrainians across the country, and it was designed 629 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: to be so. But also they didn't, unlike the attack 630 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: on the Crimea Bridge, which was a big psychological blow 631 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: and also a big strategic blow, this didn't accomplish any 632 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: sort of real battle objectives. Their hand in terms of 633 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: their military tactics and where they stand has not changed 634 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: because of these attacks. So it's essentially like sort of 635 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: like an anti virtue signal, like just being able to 636 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: show like we can still do something, which is both 637 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: designed to terrify the Ukrainian public and also to sort 638 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: of placate their own tobestic hardliners. So they have this 639 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: sort of showy display that doesn't really accomplish their battlefield objectives. 640 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: And then right away you basically have the Biden ad 641 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: ministration and saying you know, those anti aircraft, anti missile 642 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: defense systems that you guys have been asking for. We're 643 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: going to go and we've been dragging our fet on. 644 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: We're going to go ahead and provide, right. And that's 645 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: also what's complicates this so much, because on top of this, 646 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: there's actually secret negotiations going on right now between the 647 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: US and Ukraine on whether to send F sixteen's and 648 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: Patriot missile defense systems to Ukraine. Now, the thing is 649 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: with the Patriot missile defense systems is we barely have 650 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: enough in order to protect NATO and ourselves. There's a 651 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: long standing supply problem of which is very boring and 652 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: they could go into for a long time. But the 653 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: secondary part of that on the F sixteens is one 654 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: that has been one of those lines that the Biden administration, 655 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: NATO in particular has been refusing to cross Poland, Romania 656 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: and others will remember the whole fighter jet controversy in 657 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: the beginning of the war. Anyway, all of this is 658 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 1: getting looped in to the current environment as to why 659 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: we're spending so much time covering it because how NATO 660 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: in the West decides to respond to this and the 661 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: type of weapon systems they send could actually change the 662 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: strategic situation overall. President Biden put out a readout of 663 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: his phone call, let's go and put this up there 664 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: on the screen with Zelenski yesterday. Here's what he said. 665 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: Biden spoke today with President Lensky Ukraine. He expresses condemnation 666 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 1: of Russias mis strikes across Ukraine, including in Kievan Convez's condolences. 667 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 1: Biden pledged to continue providing Ukraine with the support adding 668 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: to defend it self, including advanced air defense systems. He 669 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: also underscored his ongoing engagement with allies and partners, et cetera. Now, 670 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: the reason why that this matters again is it's all 671 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: being looped up, the debates on defensive and offensive weapon 672 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: couched in the realm of supposedly being able to stop 673 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: future Russia attacks within the context of these strikes. Now 674 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: the other problem too, on the strikes. This is what 675 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: you just said, power is back on in Ukraine. Did 676 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: it work? I mean kind of like the Ukrainians, they're 677 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: probably more resolute than ever. They're like, ah, wow, I 678 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: really hate these people. We're not gonna value I would feel, 679 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: says At the same time, you know, it was like, 680 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: what you're gonna bomb one of our childhood parks, and 681 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: it's like, we're gonna a parks and a pedestrian bridge 682 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: where people take selfies, like a beautiful national place, and 683 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: we're just going to capitulate to you whenever you have 684 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: unproven capabilities on the battlefield. No, the issue is that 685 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: Russia also does not necessarily have a lot of these 686 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: precision guided munitions. So I looked a little bit deeper 687 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 1: into this, and from all current estimates of their actual 688 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: precision guided munitions, there is a reason that we saw 689 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: this limited one strike happen yesterday and it had not 690 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: happened effectively on that scale since March. It's because Russia 691 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: has two things. They're not in a total war with Ukraine. 692 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: If they wanted to dedicate one hundred percent of their 693 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: military capability to this, I guess they could, and you know, Frank, 694 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: it would be horrific for the Ukrainian people and for 695 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: the world. But they also have to consider, Hey, what 696 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: if we get into a war with NATO, what if 697 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: we get into a war with any greater power than Ukraine. 698 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: We're gonna need these advanced missile systems, and they do 699 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: not have a lot of the production. So they have 700 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: and there's all this propaganda about the amount that's rolling 701 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: off of their production line and more, but it seems 702 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: that they are very limited to the conventional world basically 703 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: like weapons developed from the nineteen fifties to like the 704 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, Like everything that's advanced and requires a lot 705 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: of electronics, microchips and more. That stuff is very difficult 706 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: for them to procure at mass scale and especially at speed, 707 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: which is why they have not been able to bring 708 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: it to bear r anyway, So it bears the question 709 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: of like is this actually a real you know, is 710 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: this actually going to be a real problem in the future. 711 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: I mean, all current stocks indicate that Russia, yes, they're 712 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: capable of lashing out like this, but unless they go 713 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: to a total war footing, which by the way, is possible, 714 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: like if the Ukrainian if the Russians is what we've 715 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: warned about, a tactical nuclear strike, if their regime is 716 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: fully up against the wall, then yeah, I think they 717 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: might fully mobilize, dedicate their entire economy, population, and weapons 718 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: cash is to war with Ukraine. But in the current environment, like, 719 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: I just don't see how I don't think it'd be 720 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: conventionally possible for them to do so, which is and 721 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: that's not just me, like everything I've read from arms 722 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: experts and more that estimate that estimate their actual force capability. 723 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: In a lot of ways, the strike yesterday was a 724 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: position of weakness to show you, like, we can't do 725 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: this all the time, but we can't do it every 726 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: once in a while if we will, well, And then 727 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: it begs a question like what was the real purpose 728 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: of these strikes? And you know, I do think potentially 729 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: like just as a reminder to Ukraine, like we have 730 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: other stuff we could do, and you should continue to 731 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: be terrified. But I actually think, and this was the 732 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: point that Yegor was making to me, this is more 733 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: about placating domestic hardline audience, which immediately, you know, Kadirov 734 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: and all these guys that have been out there chirping 735 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: and like complaining about the direction of the war and 736 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: like really raking across the coals the military leadership. Will 737 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: they put a new more brutal guy in charge. They 738 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: unleashed these attacks on energy and infrastructure and sort of 739 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: across all of Ukraine, hitting strategic cities across the entire country, 740 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 1: and now those guys are all happy as they could 741 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: possibly be and celebrating this great win for Russia and 742 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: all of this stuff, when again, in reality, what have 743 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: you done. You've burned through some of your precious stockpile, 744 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 1: You've sort of demonstrated the limits of your capabilities, and 745 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: you've also ultimately not changed your position in terms of 746 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: the outcome of the wars or really whatsoever. If anything. 747 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: As you said, you've probably strengthened the resolve of the 748 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: Ukrainian people even more to push you all of the 749 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: way out. So that's why I thought, you know, when 750 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: Yegor was making this case, to me, it made sense 751 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: to me that this is really more about quieting the 752 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: hardliners and placating a domestic audience after this very humiliating 753 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: situation with the crimea bridge and you know, however that 754 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: unfolded and whatever happened there, so that he would sort 755 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: of quiet that dissent. As we've been saying all along, 756 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: the strongest adversarial voices in Russia are not those who 757 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: would actually want peace. It's the hardliners. It's the people 758 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: that want that wholesale mass mobilization, that want more of 759 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: a hawkish approach that even in certain cases have called 760 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: directly in Medvedev's case for tactical nuclear strikes. So that's 761 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: the audience that it seems like these strikes were really 762 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: designed to ultimately message to Yeah, and at the same time, 763 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: the US also, you know, committing one percent beyond President Biden. 764 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: Let's put this up there, Secretary Blincoln. He says, quote, 765 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 1: I just spoke with my Ukrainian foreign minister to reiterate 766 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: US support for Ukraine following the Kremlin's horrific strikes this morning. 767 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: We will continue to provide unwavering economic, humanitarian and security 768 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: assistance to Ukraine. So can Ukraine defend itself and take 769 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 1: care of its people. So, you know, basically unwavering from 770 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: the United States. And I think that that is a 771 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: pretty good overview of where things stand. Not necessarily this 772 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: changed anything on the battlefield situation, but it may change 773 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: things in terms of how NATO and the Western allies 774 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: continue to supply Ukraine. And it does show you the 775 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: dance the Russians have to walk, which is, if you 776 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: go too far and you actually commit to it, you 777 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: could get into a broader war. If you don't go 778 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: far and off, you might lose the war of which 779 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: is happening right now anyway, critical times or remain on 780 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: the battleground hour. Yeah, now, and it's very hard to 781 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: have any sort of insight into whether there's a real 782 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: threat of that or not. But you know, these sorts 783 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: of actions sort of indicate that he's feeling some pressure 784 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: just in terms of maintaining his own grip on power. Yeah, 785 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: I think that. I think the fact that he did 786 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: it to play in the fact that Kadirov came out 787 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: saying he now supports the military operation shows you who 788 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: the intended audience for Beyond Ukraine, there's also many domestic 789 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: audiences that he has to fulfill. We have a lot 790 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: of foreign policy newings in the show today. This was 791 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: another really significant move that I wanted to make sure 792 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: did not get overlooked. As we, of course have continued 793 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: to focus on the possibility of nuclear armagedon which I 794 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: would you dare say, is an important focus place where 795 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: I share to focus these days. But the Biden administration 796 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: making some significant news with regards to China and those 797 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: crucial semiconductor technology. Let's go and put this tear sheet 798 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: up on the screen. From Bloomberg, they saw no possibility 799 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: of reconciliation. As US slams China chips, the Biden administration 800 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: implemented sweeping new restrictions, and the US move hampers China's 801 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,760 Speaker 1: efforts to develop domestic technology. Okay, what are we talking 802 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 1: about here now? First of all, let me say that, 803 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: according to all the analysts, the devil is really in 804 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: the details here over for how this is all implemented. However, 805 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: the Biden administration on Friday announced sweeping export controls on 806 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: semiconductor technology to China. The idea is to sort of 807 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: cripple Beijing's access to those critical technology. It's needed for 808 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: a lot of things, but including sort of defense and 809 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 1: guided weapons, so that seems to be what it is 810 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: aimed at. Technology experts said the rules appear to impose 811 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: the broadest export controls issued in a decade. This is 812 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: per the New York Times, similar to the Trump administration's 813 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: cracked down on the telecom giant Huawei, the new rules 814 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: are far wider in scope, affecting dozens of Chinese firms, 815 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: and unlike the Trump administration's approach, which was a view 816 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: this is The New York Times ed toil is aggressive 817 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: but scattershot. That's probably fair characterization. The rules appear to 818 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: establish a more comprehensive policy that will stop cutting edge 819 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 1: exports through a range of Chinese technology companies and cut 820 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: off China's nascent ability to produce advanced chips. So they 821 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: have been the Chinese government has been really heavily invested 822 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: in building up their own semiconductor industry, but they are 823 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 1: still way behind the US, Taiwan and South Korea and 824 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 1: their ability to produce the most advanced chips in fields 825 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: like ai China is actually you know, war at par 826 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 1: with where we are, but in terms of semiconductor chip production, 827 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 1: they are apparently behind. This is also crucial because it's 828 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: really sort of broad reaching. So even companies that are 829 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: overseas like in Taiwan for example, but rely on US 830 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: technology are also subject to these export controls. The market 831 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: is and again, you know, they add in these potential 832 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: loopholes where basically, like on a case by case basis, 833 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: they can issue exemptions. So that's why analysts are saying, 834 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: like the devil's in the details, and it depends how 835 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 1: this is all ultimately implemented. But the markets are certainly 836 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 1: reacting like this is a big deal and like it's 837 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 1: going to be enforced in quite an aggressive way. Let's 838 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: going to put this next piece up on the screen. 839 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys followed this yesterday. The 840 00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: Nasdaq closed at a two year low on Monday, hurt 841 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 1: primarily by those slumping chip stocks. They say, this comes, 842 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, after the Biden administration announced those new export controls, 843 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,720 Speaker 1: and the Nasdaq's losses for the year are now greater 844 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 1: than thirty two percent after Monday's decline, the S and 845 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: P five hundred is off by twenty four percent. And 846 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: in terms of the you know how much teeth this 847 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: is ultimately going to have. This is the last piece here, saga, 848 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: and I'll get your reaction. Taiwan has also signaled, let's 849 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: go and put this last piece up on the screen. 850 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: Taiwan has also signaled their chip firms are going to 851 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: follow these new US rules, which again apply to them 852 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 1: because they rely on some US technology. So interesting development. Yeah, 853 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the new gold has been for 854 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 1: a while. Frankly, this should have been policy for ten years, 855 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, fifteen years ago. The idea that it took 856 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: until twenty twenty two, and the idea of the administrator 857 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: Trump administration didn't do it just shows you how laughable 858 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: they really were. Yeah, in the first place, it took 859 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: Biden also in nearly two years in office to get there. 860 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: So look, let's not let's not applaud anyone, but he's 861 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: been there, he got there. Yeah, exactly. I'm glad it's here, unfortunately, 862 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: and I do not want to be the Debbie Downer. 863 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 1: Everything I have read so far, Crystal is that almost 864 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: all of this is ten to twenty years too late. 865 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: Here is the very simple truth. Taiwan Semiconductors is twenties 866 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: five years ahead of the entire global populace. These machines 867 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: and facilities are so sensitive. If a single human hair 868 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 1: gets in the wrong place, the entire thing will shut down. Also, 869 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,919 Speaker 1: they work twenty four hours a day. There's a great 870 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: interview with the TSMC CEO and they ask him a question. 871 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: It's translated, but they're like, hey, so why did you 872 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: beat America? And he's like, you people are lazy. He's like, 873 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: we work twenty four hours a day. He's like, we 874 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 1: have more people on eight hour shifts three times. The 875 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: facility never shuts down. He's like, when you outwork somebody double, 876 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: then you beat them. Very simple. Anyway, they are just 877 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: magicians essentially that have the proper supply, workforce technology know how. 878 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: There's actually only a limited amount of executives in the 879 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: whole world who even know how to do this. So look, 880 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 1: I applaud the Chips Act, and I applaud this. The 881 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 1: reason why America and China are posturing over Taiwan is 882 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: because of ts SMC's facility. And as much as I 883 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: support the fifty billion dollars in micron and all those 884 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,839 Speaker 1: and other new things that we're building here, we are 885 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: over a decade away from any capability of producing anything. 886 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 1: I mean, they want to be honest with people. Yeah, 887 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: it's true. It's baby steps that we've been taking. I mean, clearly, 888 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: this has been a concerted effort and focus of the 889 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: Biden administration. I hope it works. Clearly, somebody in the 890 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: administration gets that this is a big issue. It's a 891 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: big vulnerability for us, and not just in terms of 892 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: like military and defense and those sorts of things, but 893 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: in terms of like electric vehicles and if that's something 894 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,879 Speaker 1: you care about and like the future of you know, 895 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: the climate. And that's obviously a big push of the 896 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: Biden administration as well. This you know, you don't have 897 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 1: that future if you don't ultimately have the chips to 898 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: facilitate it. So one interesting thing, just a political note, JD. 899 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,280 Speaker 1: Vance and Tim Ryan squared off in a big debate 900 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: in Ohio last night. I saw lots of clips flying around. 901 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: Matt Stoler, of course, one of our great partners here, 902 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: was pointing out that it is quite notable that both 903 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 1: Vance and Tim Ryan said they supported the Chips Act. Yes, 904 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 1: which absolutely I think, you know, I mean, just given 905 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: how hardened than partisan everything is, the fact that you 906 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: have any Republican going along with anything Biden has done 907 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: shows you that there's at least somewhat of a bipartisan 908 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: recognition that this is extremely important. Don't forget that Intel 909 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: is opening that facility on Ohio, so this is right 910 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 1: twenty jobs issue for them to Here's also a jobs 911 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 1: issue on top of American security. And I will say, 912 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: look on JD. Like, I've known the guy for a 913 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: while and he does genuinely care a lot about the 914 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: chips issue. In particular. I think the point that is 915 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: very important to underscore is that this is good, but 916 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: the major geostrategic questions on what happens in the event 917 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 1: of a Taiwan invasion are still unanswered and will not 918 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,879 Speaker 1: be answered now for a decade. And it's interesting there's 919 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 1: a lot of discussion right now in Taiwan about essentially 920 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,439 Speaker 1: creating a mutually assured destruction on the chips industry should 921 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: they get invaded where there's blow up the TSMC facility, 922 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: And they're like, well, China's not going to get it, 923 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: but neither is America. And look, I mean, the reality 924 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,879 Speaker 1: is it's such a sensitive facility in the first place 925 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: that it's almost impossible. Ninety two percent of the world's 926 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: most advanced chips come from there. And I think we 927 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: should also all be honest, like, you know this MacBook 928 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 1: in front of me, where if there was a shutdown 929 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 1: of TSMC, this would be the last one I'd be 930 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: able to buy for probably seven years. iPhones. Get ready, folks, 931 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: and look at what's happening in Russia. If conceivably the 932 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: United States went to war with no TSMC, it is 933 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 1: very likely, Crystal that we would have to basically dismantle 934 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: all of our camera equipment and turn it into the 935 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 1: US government. I would I mean, think about what happened 936 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: in World War two. You're talking about Russia's like pull 937 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: them out of like washing. I actually looked into that story. 938 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: It's not necessarily it has happened. It's unclear, but okay. 939 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,399 Speaker 1: The truth is is that they are cannibalizing some consumer electronics. Now, 940 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: if we were to ever into a war and they 941 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: were no more TSMC, it is very likely the US 942 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: government would be like, everyone has to turn in their 943 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: consumer electronics in order to run our missile systems off 944 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 1: of Let's just be very real about the vulnerability that 945 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 1: we face in the global supply chain right now, and 946 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: why I mean, I do scourge so many of these 947 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: policy makers for what they've done to us over the 948 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: last two I feel on semiconductors the way that if 949 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: you are a rightful German should feel about nuclear energy 950 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: and about reliance on Russian gas. I cannot believe you 951 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: people put us in this Let us get to this place, 952 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,319 Speaker 1: because that is the level of vulnerability. We just don't 953 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,399 Speaker 1: feel it yet because there hasn't been a crunch. We've 954 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: got a small taste. In twenty twenty one, our car 955 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: companies lost ten billion dollars in revenue because of the 956 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: chip shortage. Ten billion that's you know, a lot, but 957 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: also not that much compared to what would happen with 958 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 1: the total shutdown of the supply chain. Yeah, I mean 959 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: it's yeah, it is that ultimately critical, and it's part 960 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: of why you know, Pulosi pull in her hawkish bullshit 961 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 1: with regards to Taiwan and all these people who love 962 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,320 Speaker 1: to beat their chest might do you have any idea 963 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: what this would actually mean, like if you thought for 964 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,240 Speaker 1: five seconds about what this would mean for the world, 965 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,760 Speaker 1: what it would mean for us, And the answer obviously 966 00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: is no, bingo. Let's go to the next part here 967 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 1: as well. And this is a perfect illustration of the 968 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 1: logical insanity, yes, that I was alluding to. It's a 969 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,839 Speaker 1: piece in War on the Rocks by Jeremy Shapiro called 970 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: we are on a path to nuclear war. Put the 971 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: inflammatory headline aside, and exactly what Shapiro talks about here. Who, 972 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: by the way, is a director of Research at the 973 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 1: European Council on Foreign Relations and a non resident fellow 974 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: at Brookings Institution, who also served in the State Department 975 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: from two thousand and nine to twenty thirteen. This guy 976 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 1: is a member of the quote unquote blob like the 977 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 1: foreign policy establishment. So for him to say something like this, 978 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: I think carries more weight than just the two of 979 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,280 Speaker 1: us who have always kind of been beating this drum. 980 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,359 Speaker 1: And exactly what he lays out here, crystal is a 981 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 1: direct and rational way in which the world gets into 982 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:48,320 Speaker 1: a nuclear exchange in a very very quick timeframe. Specifically 983 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:49,840 Speaker 1: what he says, and this is where the ONUS is 984 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: of course, on Russia, which is Russia has laid out 985 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 1: all kinds of red lines. They said that there would 986 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,479 Speaker 1: be a war Finland, Sweden, We're going to be in NATO. Okay, 987 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: that didn't happen. They said that there was going to 988 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: be crazy response if we delivered aircraft anti aircraft systems. 989 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 1: That didn't happen. They keep saying and threatening the nuclear 990 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: beating the nuclear drum, and we keep basically doing it. 991 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 1: And so what is the lesson a that the nuclear 992 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 1: threat from Putin is probably a bluff or maybe could 993 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 1: be a bluff, and that the US can continue to 994 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 1: test red lines and see what we can get away with. Now, 995 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 1: all of that's fine as long as the consequences of 996 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: breaching that red line aren't catastrophe and armageddon for the 997 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 1: entire planet. What he points out is that eventually the 998 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,800 Speaker 1: ANTI is going to continue to be upped. Ukraine bombing 999 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: that likely bombing. Okay, let's say that right, Ukraine likely 1000 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 1: bombing that bridge in Crimea was supposed to be a 1001 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 1: red line for nuclear war and a territorial Well, they 1002 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,320 Speaker 1: didn't respond in nuclear So Ukraine is going to continue 1003 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: to test Putin's red lines. Putin is going to continue 1004 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,279 Speaker 1: to test the West red lines, and the West is 1005 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: going to continue to ignore a lot of Putin's pronouncements 1006 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 1: and give the Ukrainians everything they want. With that, you 1007 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 1: have something called path dependency, which are two things where 1008 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: that's just going to keep happening, and as that goes, 1009 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: the path to nuclear war that Shapiro lays out here 1010 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,399 Speaker 1: becomes ever more likely because eventually somebody's red line does 1011 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: actually get crossed, and you can logically explain how the 1012 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,800 Speaker 1: insane situation with nuclear change would then happen. I really 1013 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: really encourage people to read this whole piece. I sent 1014 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 1: it to a bunch of people yesterday because not only 1015 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 1: does he explain how the seemingly insane which is you know, 1016 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 1: nuclear armageddon could happen and could begin with two, you know, 1017 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: basically rational actors. But he lays out step by step 1018 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 1: what that could look like, what the Russians would do, 1019 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: how we would respond, how they would respond, how we 1020 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: would respond, and how you end up in this, you know, 1021 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 1: potentially world ending exchange, with each step seemingly intelligent and 1022 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,360 Speaker 1: rational along the way. And that's what's so terrifying about this. 1023 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,280 Speaker 1: And that's also why you know, I appreciate Biden seems 1024 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 1: to recognize that that's the case when he made those 1025 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: comments that we talked about before, which got a lot 1026 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 1: of attention in a like fundraiser where he posited that 1027 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 1: we could end up in nuclear armageddon, which you know, 1028 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 1: for a president to say that is quite stark. He 1029 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,800 Speaker 1: indicated to Jake Tapper here that that was really messaging 1030 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: towards Putin to help him understand because in Russia there 1031 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: seems to be more thought towards all, we could use 1032 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: these tactical nuclear weapons and it might be okay, it 1033 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 1: might be okay, they probably won't respond that fiercely. We 1034 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 1: could probably get away with it without having this escalatory cycle. 1035 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 1: And so Biden is really trying to clearly send a 1036 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: message to Putin like that's not the way that this 1037 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 1: thing ultimately works. So you need to think again if 1038 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,280 Speaker 1: you're considering, you know, following the line of the Hawks 1039 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 1: and using these tactical nuclear weapons in this conflict. I 1040 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 1: don't read a part portion of this piece by what 1041 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 1: was his name, Jeremy Shapiro. I want to read a 1042 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 1: proportion of this because it speaks exactly to what we're 1043 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: saying here. He says. Listen, no rational or even sane 1044 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 1: leader plans to start a nuclear war, and for all 1045 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 1: of the Russian regimes risked, it does not show signs 1046 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 1: of suicidal tendencies. The essence of the problem is more 1047 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 1: insidious than mere insanity. Once an escalatory cycle begins, a 1048 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 1: series of individually rational steps can add up to a 1049 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 1: world ending absurdity. In Ukraine, both sides have publicly pledged 1050 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,839 Speaker 1: that they cannot lose this war. They hold that doing 1051 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: so would threaten their very way of life and the 1052 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 1: values they hold most dear. In the Russian case, particularly, 1053 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,800 Speaker 1: a loss in Ukraine would seem to threaten regime survival 1054 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 1: and even the territorial integrity of the country. He goes 1055 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 1: on to note that what we know so far from 1056 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:41,320 Speaker 1: this conflict is ever increasing escalation. So anytime one side 1057 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,280 Speaker 1: feels like the other side has a bit of an edge, 1058 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: they escalate, and then guess what the other side feels like. 1059 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 1: You know, they're at risk now of losing what they escalate. 1060 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 1: That has been the history of this war to date. 1061 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 1: That's why he says, you know, with the very provocative headline, 1062 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: we are on a path to nuclear war, because if 1063 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 1: you continue, step by step by steps of step in 1064 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: that direction, that's exactly where you end up. As insane 1065 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 1: as that ultimately seems, yeah, I think that, Hey, you know, 1066 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 1: the piece is important. It does describe the exact steps, 1067 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 1: and you know, ultimately, I just think that the general 1068 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,959 Speaker 1: and I've said this before, the reason why that most 1069 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 1: people aren't aware of this is because they're not considering 1070 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 1: the day to day realities on the ground. They're not 1071 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 1: listening to Putin's speech in Russian and the translation where 1072 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: he updates this nuclear doctrine. They're not listening to Joe 1073 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 1: Biden when he says behind closed doors that were on 1074 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 1: the path to nuclear armageddon. Frankly, how many people are 1075 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 1: even watching this CNN segment or even our coverage of this. 1076 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 1: The vast majority of people are like, yeah, Ukraine is good, 1077 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 1: Russia is bad. We should help them. They have no 1078 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 1: idea what the consequences and the chain of escalation will 1079 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 1: look like. And my fear is they're not going to 1080 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: find out until it's way too late. Now that and 1081 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: then what say, do we have nothing? I mean, there's 1082 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: no one of the crazy things about nuclear war, there's 1083 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: no democratic check. Congress doesn't have to say anything. Joe 1084 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 1: Biden has sole decision making authority, and so does Vladimir Putin. 1085 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,280 Speaker 1: You would think in a representational democracy like us, actually 1086 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,360 Speaker 1: it would require people in the chain of command committing 1087 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 1: treason and saying, no, I'm not going to do it. 1088 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 1: So do you bet on that? Because I don't, you know, 1089 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: they all share the same assumptions in this war, so 1090 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 1: I could see it all happening very quickly. I mean 1091 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,840 Speaker 1: I don't. I've seen estimates out there, you know, even 1092 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: people like Shapiro and others are saying that the risk 1093 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,280 Speaker 1: right now of a nuclear change is twenty to twenty 1094 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,319 Speaker 1: five percent. I don't know if it's worth you know, 1095 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 1: putting percentages in all of that. I would just say, 1096 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: you know, the five seconds to midnight seems like reality 1097 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,719 Speaker 1: to me, and that's a terrifying situation. Yeah yeah, I 1098 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: mean it falls to President Brandon to keep the zone 1099 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 1: of nuclear war. And the really sad thing is like 1100 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,399 Speaker 1: you could do a lot worse. You know, I feel 1101 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: a lot better with him there than I would with 1102 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, Hillary Clinton or W. Bush, Kamla Harris or 1103 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: George W. Bush or you know, even Trump, who's like 1104 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,919 Speaker 1: all who was extremely hot is towards Russia actually when 1105 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: he was in office, in spite of what the media 1106 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 1: would tell you about all of that thing. I mean, 1107 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 1: f again, Mike Pompeo's in his administration, John Bolton was 1108 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 1: in his administration. Pompeo is now that we're going to 1109 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,319 Speaker 1: get to this in just a minute. Like you know, 1110 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 1: it's saying very escalatory, hawkish things. So you know, it's 1111 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 1: an I cannot possibly say enough. What a precarious situation. 1112 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 1: This is what a frightening situation is, What a predictable 1113 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 1: situation It is that you know, if you escalate and 1114 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,919 Speaker 1: escalate and escalate and escalate with a nuclear power, you're 1115 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 1: going to end up in this exact scenario where it's 1116 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, if twenty five percent odds, you're gonna have 1117 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: a nuclear exchange, and that, in my opinion, might be 1118 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 1: on the low side at this point. So it truly, 1119 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 1: truly is a terrifying state of affairs. What you were 1120 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 1: saying about the American public, you know, I think partly 1121 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 1: it's underestimated, I mean, number one, because the media does 1122 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 1: a horrific job of explaining these risks and really laying 1123 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 1: out the risks and the consequences. I mean Tapper, you know, 1124 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 1: we played this side of him before, being like, ah, 1125 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,920 Speaker 1: that's crazy talk whatity to Senator Chris Murphy, like why 1126 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 1: would you say this? This is ridiculous? Ultimately, But the 1127 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: other piece is, you know, it just it does seem 1128 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: like an insane outcome, and it's been so long since 1129 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 1: we've really stared in the face of this kind of 1130 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 1: nuclear threat that I think it's hard for people to 1131 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,439 Speaker 1: really comprehend that this is the place that we've ended 1132 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 1: up in the year twenty twenty two. But all that 1133 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 1: being said, you know, I would take the judgment of 1134 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 1: the American people over the you know, elite elected officials 1135 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 1: here in Washington, because they are much much much more 1136 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 1: in favor of conditioning our continued support for Ukraine on 1137 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: some sort of a diplomatic process. So even as they've 1138 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 1: been like misled and propagandized by the media, they still 1139 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 1: have the good sense to see the basic dynamic of like, 1140 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 1: this is not a good thing to just allow this 1141 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 1: war to continue. It should not be our government's policy 1142 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: that we want this war to continue. We need to 1143 00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 1: find a way to bring this thing to a close 1144 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 1: for everyone's the good of absolutely everyone around the goal glow. Listen, 1145 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 1: if we had an ability to have democratic check, I 1146 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 1: will always put my faith. Oh yeah, what I'm saying 1147 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 1: is I don't think that we have such a check. Unfortunately, 1148 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 1: let's go to the next part here, and let's put 1149 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 1: this on the screen, just to underscore how exactly this 1150 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 1: is baked in now to basically the establishment in the 1151 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 1: foreign policy elite. This was an op ed which was 1152 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 1: written by Leon Panetta, former CIA director under Barack Obama, 1153 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 1: and the former Defense secretary former White House Chief of 1154 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 1: Staff Bill Clinton. Very very tapped in figure in his 1155 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,200 Speaker 1: own right, and probably, I think it's fair to say, 1156 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 1: probably still keeps in touch with some of his colleagues 1157 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,600 Speaker 1: in the Biden administration, many of whom he was once 1158 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 1: the boss up. So why does any of this matter. Well, 1159 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 1: he's writing this op ed to say clearly, quote, if 1160 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 1: Putin uses nukes in Ukraine, the US must respond with 1161 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 1: military force. And actually, why I took away so important 1162 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 1: from this is not only crystal the acknowledgment that the 1163 00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,160 Speaker 1: US should respond, which is that the new canard from 1164 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: the foreign policy elite is that if a tactical nuclear 1165 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 1: weapon of any kind is used, is that the US 1166 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 1: won't just respond in a nuclear fashion because as we 1167 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 1: would under NATO, since we have no obligation to defend Ukraine, 1168 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:16,320 Speaker 1: but we would instead use conventional military weapons to attack 1169 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 1: the Russian military. And then they're like, well, then it's 1170 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 1: Russia's choice if they want to go to nuclear war 1171 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,920 Speaker 1: or not. I guess you could see how rhetorically that 1172 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,800 Speaker 1: means that you're not effectively signing the fate of tens 1173 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 1: of millions of Americans away. But the crazy thing in 1174 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 1: this piece is his acknowledges that it would be an 1175 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 1: escalation which would likely lead to a nuclear exchange, and 1176 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 1: still says, yeah, we should just do That's what we 1177 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 1: should do. So I just want people to know, like, 1178 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 1: this is the former Defense Secretary, Barack Obama, the guy 1179 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 1: who you know in the movie played by James Gandolfini, 1180 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 1: who was like, let's go and get bin Laden. This 1181 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 1: is the guy, you know, not necessarily known as a 1182 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,400 Speaker 1: neo konhawk even in his time in Washington. And this 1183 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 1: is what he's writing in Political magazine as the way 1184 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 1: that you should always interpret these things are twofold A. 1185 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 1: It's a pressure campaign from the outside, try to get 1186 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 1: the people on the inside in order to take your 1187 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 1: argument seriously. But sometimes it's the other way, which is 1188 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 1: that they use former officials to actually as a laundromat 1189 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,040 Speaker 1: for their internal thinking as to what the debates are 1190 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,960 Speaker 1: playing out. So I'm watching all of this very very carefully, 1191 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 1: and there are two noteworthy things that have happened on 1192 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 1: this front. First and foremost was the day after the 1193 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 1: nuclear threat issued, David Petraeus, former four star you know 1194 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 1: really you know the liberal intelligentsia kind of personified, goes 1195 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 1: on ABC News and said, absolutely, if that happens, we 1196 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 1: are taking out a conventional military sponse on the Russian 1197 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 1: Black Sea feet of course, the Black c Fleet. Of course. 1198 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 1: There's no follow up question, well, miss General, would that 1199 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 1: lead to a nuclear trance? Nobody asks that crazy Second, 1200 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 1: is this piece. So now you have a former four star, 1201 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,800 Speaker 1: one of the most probably the most recognized general in 1202 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 1: modern US history, saying this. Second, we now have a 1203 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,479 Speaker 1: form Secretary of Defense, So I think that we should 1204 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 1: take these very seriously. On the other hand, we already 1205 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 1: showed you that clip the other day, which took tremendous 1206 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 1: courage by Admiral Mullen, who was like, no, we need 1207 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 1: to have diplomacy, and we need it now putin and 1208 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,720 Speaker 1: Washington needs to sit down at the table. I'm concerned 1209 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 1: about the rhetorics. So these are all, like I said, 1210 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 1: these people don't just come out of the woodwork. It's 1211 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,000 Speaker 1: a game that is playing out in Washington in order 1212 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 1: to massage the Pentagon and shape shape the elite opinion. 1213 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,080 Speaker 1: And right now I think unambiguously the Hawks are winning, 1214 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,440 Speaker 1: which is why I want people to know, like, if 1215 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 1: it happens, I am ninety nine percent sure that we 1216 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 1: will be in a full blown world war with Russia, 1217 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: which will result in a nuclear exchange. I don't have 1218 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 1: any doubt about that at all. And that's why, you know, 1219 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 1: having a real debate and understanding of the facts is 1220 01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 1: incredibly important. I also want to underscore this is totally bipartisan. 1221 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 1: So let's put this up there on the screen from 1222 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 1: Mike Pompeio quote, you know how we can convince Vadimir 1223 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 1: Putin to withdraw from Ukine give the Ukrainians the weapons 1224 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 1: that they need to win. Why does that matter? Well, 1225 01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 1: that's the former Secretary of State under Donald Trump, Crystal. 1226 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 1: So we just showed two prominent US officials. Also, by 1227 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 1: the way, he was a former CIA director. So I'm 1228 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 1: sensing a little bit of a femire about what's exactly 1229 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 1: getting laundered in public opinion. They're two side by side 1230 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 1: bipartisan responses making it clear we will not back not 1231 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 1: even back down, because that's don't even use their language. 1232 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,440 Speaker 1: We will not go to the table and try to 1233 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: forego this or try to try to forestall this possible 1234 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 1: eventuality and move in a diplomatic direction, so without any 1235 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,280 Speaker 1: pressure on that, by the way, which is even with 1236 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,960 Speaker 1: pressure which probably still fail. That's the crazy thing, which 1237 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,760 Speaker 1: is that we are not even attempting at something that 1238 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,680 Speaker 1: could give us the off ramp. It's like we don't 1239 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,439 Speaker 1: even want to see if it's a possibility, and by 1240 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 1: forestalling that, we're essentially ensuring that the path that we're 1241 01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,440 Speaker 1: on continue. The longer we wait, the more steps of 1242 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,800 Speaker 1: escalation that are taken by the Ukrainians, by us, by 1243 01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,920 Speaker 1: the Russians, the more difficult it becomes to bring this 1244 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 1: thing to any sort of a close cease fire, you know, 1245 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 1: temporary peace, steel, whatever it is. The further we go 1246 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 1: down this path, the more unlikely it is that we 1247 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 1: can form any sort of negotiation between the two sides. 1248 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,919 Speaker 1: And to go back to what Panetta is saying here 1249 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 1: of you know, we should strike Russian forces in Ukraine 1250 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 1: and basically make sure that Russia is going to lose 1251 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 1: this war in Ukraine and in the most maximalist way, 1252 01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,000 Speaker 1: pushing them out of the east, pushing them out of Crimea, 1253 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 1: where you know, before this war, it was widely acknowledged 1254 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 1: that Crimea basically wanted to be part of Russia. And 1255 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 1: this is a very like this part, that part is 1256 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 1: incredibly important to Russia. So he's saying, we're going to 1257 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 1: strike Russian troops in a way that will basically make 1258 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,480 Speaker 1: it impossible for them to win this war. How do 1259 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 1: you think that Putin is going to perceive that? I mean, 1260 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 1: if that is not an existential threat to him and 1261 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 1: his power and his regime. I don't know what is so, yeah, 1262 01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 1: what do you think the likely response to that is? 1263 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 1: And going back to that piece that we put up 1264 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 1: earlier from Jeremy Shapiro War on the Rocks, this is 1265 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 1: actually exactly the escalatory chain that he lays out. That 1266 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 1: is step two, you know, step one, as Putin uses 1267 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 1: tactical nuclear weapons in some way on the battlefield or 1268 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:21,880 Speaker 1: even as a demonstration. Step two is literally this exact strategy, 1269 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 1: this exact thing that Leon Panetta is suggesting that we do. 1270 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,520 Speaker 1: And he says that the next thing that is likely 1271 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,120 Speaker 1: to happen is that they will see a direct NATO 1272 01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 1: attack on Russia or Russian forces as confirmation of their 1273 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: view that the West intends to destroy the Russian regime 1274 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 1: and kill all of its leaders. They say, for Russian leaders, 1275 01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 1: this is an ever present reality. Putin reportedly obsessively watches 1276 01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 1: the video of Libyan leader Momar Kadaffi's death after he 1277 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 1: was overthrown by NATO forces. Facing the prospect of death 1278 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,120 Speaker 1: if they death, if they do not act to save 1279 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 1: their regime, Russian leaders will risk launching further conventional and 1280 01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,160 Speaker 1: tactical nuclear strikes on NATO troop formations in Ukrainian supply 1281 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 1: operations in border NATO states like Poland and Estonia to 1282 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,840 Speaker 1: signal that Russia is willing and able to defend itself 1283 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,560 Speaker 1: despite the risk of strategic nuclear escalation. So and then 1284 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 1: you're off to the races. That is the way that 1285 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:16,240 Speaker 1: this chain could unfold precisely like and again, none of 1286 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,760 Speaker 1: that is each step doesn't seem totally insane, you know, 1287 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 1: but the place where you end up is literal global suicide. 1288 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,240 Speaker 1: So these things that are being suggested by the supposedly 1289 01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:32,840 Speaker 1: you know, sober minds, the serious you know, the serious, 1290 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:38,200 Speaker 1: credentialed folks in DC are total insanity if you care about, 1291 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, the future of the globe. So the fact 1292 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,240 Speaker 1: that you have, you know, once again this hawkish bipartisan 1293 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,520 Speaker 1: consensus and for all of you know, some of the 1294 01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 1: rhetorical things Biden has said that I've appreciated, you know, 1295 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,200 Speaker 1: saying we don't want to get into World War three, 1296 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 1: sounding the alarm about nuclear arm again, some of the 1297 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,520 Speaker 1: comments that he made to Tap are about, hey, I 1298 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:59,040 Speaker 1: think Putin's a rational actor. The fact remains that the 1299 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:03,440 Speaker 1: policy has been one of escalation, escalation, escalation, and a 1300 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 1: total unwillingness to push Ukraine to sit down at the 1301 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 1: negotiating table. Yeah, and unfortunately the Ukrainians themselves, and look, 1302 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 1: this is an existential battle for them. They're actually preparing. 1303 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,080 Speaker 1: Let's go and put this on the screens. Quote, some 1304 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 1: Ukrainians are bracing for the possibility of a Russian nuclear strike. 1305 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,959 Speaker 1: Fears across the capital and more of severe retaliation grew 1306 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:27,880 Speaker 1: after the attack on the bridge to Crimea. Now, they say, 1307 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 1: but US officials have said they think the chances of 1308 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:35,960 Speaker 1: Moscow's nuclear weapons use are slim. But they do quote 1309 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 1: officials inside of the Ukrainian government on background and more saying, look, 1310 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,280 Speaker 1: there's not much we can do, but we are preparing 1311 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,880 Speaker 1: for the reality. And despite Zelenski's initial pledge that oh 1312 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 1: Putin is bluffing, they have since retracted that, both Zelenski 1313 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 1: himself and his military advisors saying no, it actually very 1314 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 1: much could happen. Now. Also, this is another thing, as 1315 01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 1: I said, I actually went and read the National Security 1316 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,320 Speaker 1: strategy and found a very troubling line. Put this up there. 1317 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,040 Speaker 1: Here is it straight from the mouth of the US military. 1318 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 1: They say, Quote, Russia's conventional military will have been weakened, 1319 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 1: which will likely increase Moscow's reliance on nuclear weapons in 1320 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,760 Speaker 1: its military planning, effectively saying that the current situation on 1321 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:23,600 Speaker 1: the battlefield for Moscow means that they are coined to 1322 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:28,240 Speaker 1: come more reliant on nuclear weapons, both strategic and tactical, 1323 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:32,479 Speaker 1: in order to achieve their overall war aims, meaning that 1324 01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,439 Speaker 1: the likelihood of the strike is actually higher whenever you 1325 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,240 Speaker 1: read this document. So that was another one that slipped 1326 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,240 Speaker 1: out to me. And then finally let's put this up there, 1327 01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:45,280 Speaker 1: which is from the Washington Post. Again, we're reading these 1328 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:50,120 Speaker 1: former officials, private US officials. Here's what they said. Quote Privately, 1329 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 1: US officials say that neither Russia nor Ukraine is capable 1330 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 1: of winning a war outright. They say they do not 1331 01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,559 Speaker 1: know what the end of the war looks like, or 1332 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,720 Speaker 1: how it my end, or when insisting that is up 1333 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:07,040 Speaker 1: to Kiev. Interesting, huh, Crystal, And actually there's more of 1334 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,439 Speaker 1: that quote. Yeah, So the full quote is that they 1335 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,559 Speaker 1: say neither Russian ary Ukraine is capable of winning the 1336 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:15,360 Speaker 1: war outright, and they have ruled out the idea of 1337 01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:20,439 Speaker 1: pushing or even nudging Ukraine to the negotiating table. So 1338 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:24,640 Speaker 1: the official policy of the US government is just continue 1339 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,559 Speaker 1: on this path, and as I think we've laid out 1340 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,719 Speaker 1: in excruciating detail this morning, that path leads to total 1341 01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:36,280 Speaker 1: and complete disaster. So as much as we hear some 1342 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, at least like aware of the dangers of 1343 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 1: the situation notes from President Biden, which is better than 1344 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,519 Speaker 1: you can say for like ninety nine percent of the media, 1345 01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 1: the path that they are on continues to be terrifying 1346 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,240 Speaker 1: and one of escalation and one of not even being 1347 01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:55,960 Speaker 1: willing to nudge the Ukrainians towards the negotiating table. You 1348 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,960 Speaker 1: have another some other quotes in that piece that are 1349 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,680 Speaker 1: also really interesting trouble. They say all this adds up 1350 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 1: to war that looks increasingly open ended, as even those 1351 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,439 Speaker 1: in Zelensky's inner circle most open to exploring negotiations with 1352 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:12,120 Speaker 1: Russia said Putin's annexations marked a fatal blow quote. Putin 1353 01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 1: injected the virus of infinite war with his annexation move, 1354 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,160 Speaker 1: said a top negotiator for Zelensky, the majority leader of 1355 01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,800 Speaker 1: Ukraine's parliament in an interview. Ukraine will never accept this. 1356 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,240 Speaker 1: That goes the idea of what we've been saying. That 1357 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,360 Speaker 1: the further you go along this path, and the further 1358 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:32,599 Speaker 1: steps of escalation, the more difficult it becomes to achieve 1359 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,840 Speaker 1: any sort of ceasefire and end to this war. You know, 1360 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,479 Speaker 1: the piece about Ukrainians preparing for a potential nuclear attack. 1361 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,519 Speaker 1: There are parts of that that really got to me 1362 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,840 Speaker 1: because you have to remember, I mean, some of the 1363 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:48,000 Speaker 1: people that they interviewed literally fled from the nuclear fallout 1364 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 1: from Chernobyl. Like, this is a country that knows far 1365 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:55,519 Speaker 1: too well what you know, the consequences of radiation and 1366 01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:00,480 Speaker 1: nuclear fallout could be. So this is like very vis 1367 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,599 Speaker 1: for significant parts of this population. And then they were 1368 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:08,320 Speaker 1: talking about how some elementary schools have advised parents to 1369 01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 1: put together an emergency pack for their little kiddos to 1370 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,720 Speaker 1: have with them at school. One person who works in 1371 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,120 Speaker 1: a market selling home goods said a mom came to 1372 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,679 Speaker 1: her with a list from the school that included latex gloves, 1373 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,360 Speaker 1: poncho boot covers, tissues, wet wipes, and a flashlight. As 1374 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,080 Speaker 1: if that's going to do jackshit for you in a 1375 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,120 Speaker 1: nuclear war. I mean, but that's where they I mean, 1376 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,560 Speaker 1: trying to hold on to any idea that you know, 1377 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 1: that they could ultimately get through this and that really 1378 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 1: brought it home for me. What an absolutely terrifying situation 1379 01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 1: and how incredibly real this is Right now, I think 1380 01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:42,760 Speaker 1: you're right, Chrystal. I take solace in the fact that 1381 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,519 Speaker 1: I live close enough to the Pentagon that I will 1382 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,400 Speaker 1: be vaporized in the event of a nuclear strike.