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Speaker 1: They Around the NFL podcast can still play the guitar?

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, we can.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen hundred episodes in eleven years in We're like Slash

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Speaker 2: coming out of the Church in the November Rain video.

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Speaker 3: I am forty three from the Chris Wesley podcast studio.

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Speaker 1: It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Dan hands us here with Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler and

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Speaker 2: you heard it. I've been teasing this really since the

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Speaker 2: Use Your Illusions double album Colleen would be on the

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Speaker 2: show again, and she has yes returned fresh from Detroit.

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Speaker 4: You guys, I missed you. There were a couple of

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Speaker 4: people on Twitter that were like, Dan really needs you

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Speaker 4: to return this week.

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Speaker 5: So it's true.

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Speaker 1: I needed you, I missed you, we all missed you,

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Speaker 1: and now.

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Speaker 5: Not being around, I miss you, guys.

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Speaker 4: I feel like my energy, my orbit, all of it

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Speaker 4: is off when I'm not with you, guys. I don't

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Speaker 4: see you at least once a week week, So now

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Speaker 4: all is right.

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Speaker 6: It becomes clear on Tuesdays that Mark and I are

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Speaker 6: not enough. We are not enough.

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Speaker 3: That is nice.

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Speaker 6: And there was a moment and I know he really

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Speaker 6: meant it because it was off air too, where he

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Speaker 6: just like this this show just needs a shot at Colleen,

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Speaker 6: A just really needs some Colleen.

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Speaker 5: I got shots. Let's go.

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Speaker 3: You were in Detroit, yeah, speaking of shots, and because.

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Speaker 2: I remember being down of the field after the Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl when the Eagles won, and we'll get maybe get

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Speaker 2: to the Eagles later. Well however, and seeing like Connie

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Speaker 2: at like the thirty yard line and bumping into it.

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Speaker 1: You were in tears. Cut to five years later, tears

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Speaker 1: of joy.

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Speaker 2: Right, you're watching the game with diehard Lions fan Cynthia

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Speaker 2: Freeland and Michigan native.

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Speaker 3: That must have been nice.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Cynthia is truly such a Lions fan, so it was

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Speaker 4: so much fun to be there with her because there

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Speaker 4: were so many of her friends and family that were

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Speaker 4: coming through the bar that we were doing live shots from.

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Speaker 4: But then we made it in the stadium just in time,

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Speaker 4: right before they started the game, for like the end

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Speaker 4: of the pregame ceremony, and you guys were watching like

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Speaker 4: the whole stadium the way they had the wristbands and

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Speaker 4: it was lighting up. But it was just really cool.

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Speaker 4: And I looked over at Cynthia and she was just crying,

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Speaker 4: like and this was before the game kicked off. She

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Speaker 7: You have a like a knack for being president at

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Speaker 7: these ground swell fan events that like Flores, I know,

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Speaker 7: they hire you to bring you there, right, the Jets, Cleveland,

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Speaker 7: other teams, Oh my gosh, critical mass moments.

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Speaker 4: It was I just I really miss traveling for these games.

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Speaker 4: So it's been really fun because the only two games

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Speaker 4: that I've been to this year have been Lions games,

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Speaker 4: and I had never been to a Lions game before.

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Speaker 4: I had never been to Detroit before this year, and

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Speaker 5: And the fans that I talked to in.

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Speaker 4: The bar beforehand, they were so funny because they were like,

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Speaker 4: Like it was almost like a ter Brett's type of

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Speaker 4: I was coming to the game, and my daughter surprised

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Speaker 4: They're right at the fifty yard line, and so I

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Speaker 4: want to mention this beforehand, but my wife passed away

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Speaker 4: eight years ago. She was such a big Lions fan,

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Speaker 4: There was a lot of crying going on in Detroit.

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Speaker 4: It was so nice.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 6: I need to get Dan Campbell crying really to feed

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Speaker 6: my soul, I think.

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Speaker 7: Dan Campbell, I will I will keep this to thirty seconds.

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Speaker 7: But I woke up in the middle of the night

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Speaker 7: you start to remember it. And I had been in

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Speaker 7: my childhood house with a bunch of male like like

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Speaker 7: my real childhood house. Dan Campbell was a teacher teaching

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Speaker 7: the Detroit Lions, and then the dream ended.

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Speaker 2: I love dream I love dream stories.

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Speaker 3: Dream stories are the worst.

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Speaker 7: But it was football related and it left me another

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Speaker 7: hour and a half trying to figure out what was happening.

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Speaker 5: I love that Dan is visiting you in your dreams.

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Speaker 3: He was large too.

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Speaker 7: It was like the real sized person, the real size

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Speaker 7: Dan Campbell Mark.

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Speaker 1: How are you, buddy?

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Speaker 3: Are you ready for a big W at your next

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Speaker 3: watch party? Well?

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Speaker 1: I haven't really thought about that, but I do want

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Speaker 1: a W. You got any.

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Speaker 7: Tips, whether you're cheering on your favorite team or hosting

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Speaker 7: a movie night? Does yourno knows planning a winning watch

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Speaker 7: party on a budget isn't easy.

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Speaker 1: I will thank you for that advice.

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Speaker 2: Man, I get the anxiety, you know, and I know

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Speaker 2: my cess dog he loves hosting hangs with all his

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Speaker 2: work friends.

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Speaker 3: Everything needs to be just right.

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Speaker 7: You need the perfect setting, the perfect squad, the perfect eats,

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Speaker 7: and the perfect plan to keep everyone pumped all night long.

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Speaker 2: That's what you always say, man, perfect eats, perfect squad.

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Speaker 2: That's your whole thing, keeping everybody pumped up.

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Speaker 3: I like to just wing it at parties, you know, No,

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Speaker 3: you need to draw up the perfect plan.

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Speaker 7: Luckily, you're a game time mastermind, and you know the

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Speaker 7: grabbing Adjorno Classic crust pizza is one call that brings

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Speaker 7: home a w with half a pound of cheese, sauce

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Speaker 7: and other toppings at an incredible price.

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Speaker 3: It's your game day MVP most Valuable Pizza.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for all the sports metaphors. It helps a

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Speaker 2: regular guy like me. So I guess I'll just make

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Speaker 2: the call and have it sent to the house. It's

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Speaker 2: not delivery, it's djorna.

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Speaker 1: A yes, well, thanks Mario.

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Speaker 3: It's a good info.

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Speaker 7: I now understand the text that I read during that

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny putting together a masterful bit like that

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Speaker 3: Uh A rifle time.

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Speaker 2: As I'm listening to it over and over again, I'm

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Speaker 2: like this, this isn't angry read this man is angry

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Speaker 3: I wonder if that's why the journal has not gotten

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Speaker 7: They'm like, I'd never actually heard it. I think one

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Speaker 7: need you to read an ad, and so I'm like,

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Speaker 7: knock it out, baby, it's like Thursday after. I think,

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Speaker 7: if we just do it, maybe before the show, you're

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Speaker 3: Of you doing that show.

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Speaker 2: You need me, that's fine, and you're gonna get I'll

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Speaker 7: But I've learned actually because I'm not gonna I don't

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Speaker 5: I have pizza. You didn't have the journo before you

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Speaker 3: I always need to They got.

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Speaker 6: More pop in and they just got a whole five

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Speaker 6: this was not like a live read.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready for a big w at your next

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Speaker 7: I would say this, I don't know who we're reading

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Speaker 7: out of the kindness of our hearts. I know Greg

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Speaker 7: You know, I get it, but like we've never I've

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Speaker 1: Let you cook. I'm done. All right, let's uh, let's

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Speaker 1: do some news night.

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Speaker 3: There are seventy thousand plus who are screaming against him.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's how many fans I play in front of

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Speaker 1: Pretend like they're all there, but there's zero. But right now.

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Speaker 2: Tony Romo, ladies and gentlemen didn't know what word was

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you just start talking and you figure out where

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Speaker 5: I don't know who does.

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Speaker 2: That, but like how many people watch that game? In

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Speaker 2: Romo's defense, I guess we've all been there. But when

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Speaker 2: you're doing that, in addition to the panic of weight,

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Speaker 3: How do I land this?

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Speaker 2: Knowing that there's what like fifty million people? What problematic is.

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Speaker 4: It's difficult landing the plane when there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: Let's get to the news.

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Speaker 2: The Titans have a new head coach. They plan to

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Speaker 2: hire Bengals offensive coordinator Brian Callahan. The pel Rays reported

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Speaker 2: on Monday night. He had a second interview with the

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Speaker 3: Then he's staying.

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Speaker 2: He had interview scheduled with the Falcons and Panthers for

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Speaker 2: their vacant head coaching gigs, but they decide, or he decides,

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Speaker 2: I don't need to go anywhere else.

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Speaker 1: I like this spot.

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Speaker 2: So Callahan mark who had success in Cincinnati, and I

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Speaker 2: think it probably helped him the way the season went

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Speaker 2: on after they lost Burrow, that they remained competitive on offense.

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Speaker 2: He ends up getting a gig, and that's what happens

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Speaker 2: with successful organizations, they lose their coordinators.

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Speaker 7: Well, we're obviously like getting deeper and deeper to the

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Speaker 7: trend of just younger coaches being made head coaches.

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Speaker 3: He's thirty nine.

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Speaker 7: He has already worked with Peyton Manning, Matthew Stafford, Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 7: Obviously you can throw Derek Carran there if you want.

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Speaker 7: But he's like a he's a lifer, Like he's the

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Speaker 7: son of Bill Callahan. It's like he's been around head

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Speaker 7: And so I think he's a little bit anonymous just

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Speaker 7: He wasn't in Cincinnati, but he's been around football forever.

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Speaker 7: And I mean I kind of was like tracking some

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Speaker 7: Good good news for Will Levis. They've got the second

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Speaker 3: Work with it.

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Speaker 6: That alone would make him worth it. Brian Callahan. If

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Speaker 2: He so you could fire him and show him that, Dad,

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Speaker 6: That would be amazing. I don't reaction too. What why

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Speaker 3: Or you could you could make him like, you know, assistant,

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Speaker 6: Bobby Slowick might get one of these head coaching There's

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Speaker 6: It's working. I think the their number one objective of

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Speaker 6: They're really looking at him as the guy, and Callahan's

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Speaker 4: And for Levis it's going to be his fourth offense

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Speaker 5: So bringing him in to try and develop will levis.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Titans have never had offensive continuity under

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Speaker 4: so I'm wondering if not only will he bring over

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Speaker 4: Because Van Pelt previously worked in Cincinnati as the quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: That's why we missed you.

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Speaker 4: He worked directly with Callahan, so they're probably gonna share

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Speaker 4: of potential offensive coordinators that he could hire, including now

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Speaker 4: you're scaring me, Liam Cohen, who is the offensive coordinator

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Speaker 6: Like that seemed to get blamed quite a bit for

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Speaker 4: Also Studsville, Eric Studsville.

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Speaker 6: I like Studsville former interim head coach of the Denver Bronco.

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Speaker 1: Let's not objectify the coaches.

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Speaker 4: Conny Well Studsville, Studsville. The co O sees he was

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Speaker 1: So that wow, that Tony.

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Speaker 2: You can leave now because that's an incredible amount of

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Speaker 5: I have nothing else to offer you guys.

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Speaker 3: Right out of time on the rest, we got to

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Speaker 2: But I just I will just throw out there. It's

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Speaker 2: We're just all in.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you should be. I think you should.

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Speaker 3: What falls to at seven, because you know you can

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Speaker 2: Which is tricky obviously, because if you you take a

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Speaker 2: If you take another quarterback, you're not only kind of

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Speaker 6: I agree with being in on him from not in

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Speaker 1: That's a good plan too. I just have a plan,

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Speaker 6: Plan, and then this is the year for that, This

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Speaker 2: In other by the way, you know, I have a

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Speaker 1: Yes it's evident, humble brag, but the idea we.

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Speaker 6: But it's like, hey, guys who don't really get that

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Speaker 2: I'm just pointing out, like if I was appointed to

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Speaker 2: we've got to let you go, that's all. And and

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Speaker 2: imagine being at IBM Mark during your dad's time there,

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Speaker 1: In fact, to get the your office.

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Speaker 6: You're gone.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel a box like this. I don't like that, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, feels like something you personally might need to unpackle more.

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Speaker 1: You can have to turn it on me.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying this is an opportunity that young Callahan has.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it to my father. I'm just saying

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Speaker 7: We don't know like what that relationship is. And to

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Speaker 7: Callahan just burns people out right, maybe the father burns everyone.

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Speaker 2: Out, you know, right, and now it's our rank relationships

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Speaker 6: But you're just like you don't even know, you don't

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Speaker 3: I think it'll take like.

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Speaker 5: Tis, I'm bringing my dad to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: You'll be able to hang out with them there, and

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be great. We love that you gonna bring

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Speaker 2: I've done it four times. Right, Let's who's brought their

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Speaker 3: I have as well?

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Speaker 7: Yeah I have not, but there were extenuating circumstances around

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Speaker 3: So let's take on that. No, let's move absolutely not right.

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Speaker 2: The Chargers Uh and Jim Harbaugh are now in striking

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Speaker 6: Right, it's sometimes he's been at the finish. So I'm

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Speaker 2: So Jim Harball, who's had great success everywhere he's gone

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Speaker 2: Maybe not the perfect Charges roster, but certainly not a

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Speaker 4: AFC West. The head coaches are going to be wild

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Speaker 6: I also, I'm hesitant here to get too deep into

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Speaker 2: More Gregan of Greg Rosenthal never been a Greg Roman.

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Speaker 6: No, he's a very interesting coordinator who you sort of

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Speaker 6: And then the same thing happened with Lamar Jackson, where

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Speaker 6: it's very one dimensional. Just just like imagining that. I guess,

445
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Speaker 6: I'm I guess I have a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit of skulls partition, and because it comes from

447
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Speaker 2: a very it's speeding at a high rate before that.

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Speaker 1: Look, he was the OC of that twenty nineteen That's.

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Speaker 6: What I'm saying. And they never sort of developed or

450
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Speaker 6: had answers. They weren't like a complete offense. But we'll

451
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Speaker 6: see if this happens. Because Jim Harbaugh is different than

452
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Speaker 6: other people, and he supposedly he was really close to

453
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Speaker 6: getting that Viking's job in twenty twenty two and then

454
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Speaker 6: the wolfs and at some point I think couldn't stand

455
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Speaker 6: being in the same room with Jim Harbor and all

456
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Speaker 6: the demands he was making, and it blew up in

457
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Speaker 6: his face and he didn't end up getting that job.

458
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Speaker 6: And he promised, he said, I'm done chasing NFL jobs,

459
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Speaker 6: never gonna do it again. Right after that, the very

460
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Speaker 6: next year, he tries to get the Broncos job. He's

461
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Speaker 6: reported to be close to getting that job. The Broncos

462
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Speaker 6: didn't want to hire him either. Again after he's like, actually, no,

463
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Speaker 6: I didn't want that job. I'm gonna stay at Michigan forever.

464
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Speaker 6: And so like now here we are again, they're close.

465
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Speaker 6: It's like, I don't know what is he going to demand. Supposedly,

466
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Speaker 6: according to Mike Careful, they are offering a lot of

467
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Speaker 6: money and probably all the control that he wants. So

468
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Speaker 6: I think he found his spot that he will take.

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Speaker 6: But you never know what this guy, he's a little erratic.

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Speaker 7: Well there is one thing though, because the Chargers are

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Speaker 7: a special team and a strange situation eternally because they're

472
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Speaker 7: in Los Angeles as the undercard always and their stadiums

473
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Speaker 7: are filled with the enemy fan base game after game,

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Speaker 7: and Harbball changes that a lot. I think Harball would

475
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Speaker 7: juice up the Chargers in a way that you know,

476
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Speaker 7: Brandon Staley never could, anyone from the past never could.

477
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Speaker 7: And he had to work with Alex Smith out of

478
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Speaker 7: the gate in San Francisco and turned him into a

479
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Speaker 7: pristine quarterback before they switched over. I think him and

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Speaker 7: Justin Herbert, like I don't know if I see a

481
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Speaker 7: two or three year crash and burn thing, although the

482
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Speaker 7: Greg Roman thing is I thought the relationship by the

483
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Speaker 7: end of all that was a little funky too.

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Speaker 6: So tell you what this off.

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Speaker 7: But I'm not theoried about Brendon Rouhman right now at

486
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Speaker 7: this point. Wet'll see what happens.

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Speaker 6: Kind of fun to imagine Harv with Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 4: There's all these like old Greg Roman headlines that I

489
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Speaker 4: just pulled up from twenty thirteen. Why is his play

490
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Speaker 4: calling holding back the Niners? And I'm sure we could

491
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Speaker 4: go and find multiple other things with Greg Roman. But

492
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Speaker 4: the fact that Jim Harball is going to be back

493
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Speaker 4: in the NFL, it's like, I'll believe it when it

494
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Speaker 4: actually happened, but.

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Speaker 6: It will be spicy, it will be It's great.

496
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Speaker 2: It's great for the NFL, it's great for this podcast,

497
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 2: it's great for the Chargers, at least in the short term.

498
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Speaker 2: I think great news for Raiders fans that did not

499
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Speaker 2: want Antonio Pierce to be only an interim coach because

500
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Speaker 2: they decide to rip that interim label off and it

501
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Speaker 2: will be Antonio Pierce who will be the full time

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Speaker 2: head coach. Rap Sheet and Mike g reported this on

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Speaker 2: Friday for sources. The team later announced it. Pierce took

504
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Speaker 2: over for Josh McDaniels. And it was just an absolute

505
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Speaker 2: circus there and a non competitive, just trash bag operation,

506
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Speaker 2: as Mark would say, floating trash bag, as they say,

507
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Speaker 2: whereas he says, only Mark you're a unique man.

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Speaker 6: Mark, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean you're allowed to. You put those words and

510
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Speaker 3: do it the way you do it.

511
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Speaker 2: Mark Pierce is hiring comes after coach Raiders to five

512
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Speaker 2: wins in those final nine games, and that a long

513
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Speaker 2: sess dog with his a very vocal, fiery style and

514
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Speaker 2: the players latching on to him and him being essentially

515
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Speaker 2: the antithesis of what McDaniels was.

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Speaker 3: I think all that kind of came together and got

517
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Speaker 3: him this job.

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's just bells and whistles in terms

519
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Speaker 7: of how the players responded to him. I mean they

520
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Speaker 7: were a different defense down the stretch.

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Speaker 3: I think it matters.

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Speaker 7: I think we're seeing this all over the place, like

523
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Speaker 7: these coaches need to relate to these players in a

524
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Speaker 7: different way.

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Speaker 3: Meetings need to happen differently.

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Speaker 7: And there was this drum beat with Josh McDaniels of like,

527
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Speaker 7: why is he not getting along with this important guy

528
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Speaker 7: and this important guy And there's all these like behind

529
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Speaker 7: the scenes whispers that this is just not working. So

530
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Speaker 7: this is like when you have one relationship and you

531
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Speaker 7: just go to another, and you go to someone completely different.

532
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Speaker 7: Antonio Pierce couldn't be any more different. Than Josh McDaniels.

533
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Speaker 7: But I think the hard work begins now because it's like,

534
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Speaker 7: nice idea to put n O'Connell in there for a

535
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Speaker 7: bunch of time. Last year, Jimmy G is Jimmy G

536
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Speaker 7: and that thing flamed out. It's like, you've got to

537
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Speaker 7: figure out who you're going to be because you can't

538
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Speaker 7: be one of these teams in a power heavy AFC

539
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Speaker 7: with a maybe he works quarterback, maybe he gets us

540
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Speaker 7: six wins type of guy. So it's like a nice

541
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Speaker 7: story now turns into the acid test.

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Speaker 6: We still gotta find out who the GM is. Don't

543
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Speaker 6: know that there's a reporting that Marvin Lewis will be

544
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Speaker 6: involved in the staff kind of in a over helping

545
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Speaker 6: Pierce out. He apparently actually was getting help from peer.

546
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Speaker 6: He might have been on the staff last year and

547
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Speaker 6: we didn't really know after Pierce came aboard like a

548
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Speaker 6: costume Yeah no, and like, uh, you know, advisory role

549
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 6: in Tom Kaughlin helping in case he says he knows

550
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Speaker 6: what he doesn't know and needs some help maybe filling

551
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Speaker 6: out the staff. All this different stuff and I'm curious

552
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Speaker 6: to see what the staff looks. There's Zach Robinson again.

553
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Speaker 6: Another McVeigh guy is getting interviewed for the OC job,

554
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Speaker 6: that that would be promising. I just think it's it

555
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Speaker 6: should not be lost because we didn't hit it on

556
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Speaker 6: this podcast that Max Crosby put it out there that

557
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Speaker 6: he will request the trade if Antonio Pierce doesn't get higher,

558
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Speaker 6: and then like a day later, Antonio Pierce was hired.

559
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Speaker 6: So I just think by the transitive rule, Max Crosby

560
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 6: runs the team. Now, yem he's the GM, he's the owner.

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Speaker 6: He does it all. He's gonna be like looking at

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Speaker 6: the tax receipts from the restaurants inside the it's all

563
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Speaker 6: Max Crosby.

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Speaker 5: He's all the strings.

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Speaker 4: I just I'm wondering about the offense, the philosophy there,

566
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Speaker 4: if they do end up going with like a McVeigh guy,

567
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Speaker 4: if it is going to still be like a run

568
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Speaker 4: first like with a bunch of play action type concepts,

569
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Speaker 4: and if he does end up hiring an OC like

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Speaker 4: from McVeigh or Shanahan going forward. But I think three

571
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Speaker 4: out of their five offensive line starters are free agents,

572
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Speaker 4: and Josh Jacobs too, so they have they really got

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Speaker 4: to hire a GM because they have a lot of

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Speaker 4: questions that they need.

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Speaker 6: To they might keep Champ Kelly who is there too,

576
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Speaker 6: and they are letting go of the previous offensive staff

577
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Speaker 6: which did a better job.

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Speaker 7: Keep an eye on Tom Telesciler's reporting that like if

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Speaker 7: you're Mark Davis wants like because you're got a rookie

580
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Speaker 7: head coach like a GM with experience, and he's someone

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Speaker 7: they've talked to.

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Speaker 3: And so I mean Tom.

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Speaker 7: Telesco I thood he did a good job with the

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Speaker 7: with the Chargers in the terms of like stock and

585
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 7: also the Chargers we didn't mention before like the second

586
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Speaker 7: biggest cap red space issue right now of any team

587
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Speaker 7: that league. So the Chargers, Yes, so you know he

588
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 7: left them in some in a bit of a fix too.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think the Mark Davis and company have dreams

590
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: of this being the next Dan Campbell higher man.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of work.

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Speaker 2: That needs to be done, and you know, the charge

593
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Speaker 2: still in the same division as the Chiefs. It's good

594
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Speaker 2: luck to Antonio Pierce and the Raiders on to Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: Connie.

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Speaker 2: It looks like Nick Sirianni will survive the epic flame

597
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: out to twenty twenty three, but he is cleaning house

598
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Speaker 2: along the staff.

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Speaker 1: So Sewan decide the DC. He gone.

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Speaker 3: After being booted upstairs, Matt Patricia, he gone.

601
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Speaker 2: He decides to pursue other opportunities. Uh, they got rid

602
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 2: of the OC. Now who's the O c Ryan Johns,

603
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: Ryan Johnson. So it's it's that move, Connie, where they decide,

604
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 2: what are we gonna do.

605
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna fire the coach.

606
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: Oh, we're just going to clean house under the coach

607
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: and give him one more shot.

608
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Speaker 3: And that's where they're going with it.

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Speaker 1: What a weird Do you agree with that?

610
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Speaker 3: Not?

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Speaker 4: I mean no, I think that the team pretty much

612
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 4: like quit on the coaching staff, whatever the main issue was,

613
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 4: because it really reminded me of that Chargers Raiders game

614
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 4: the night before Brandon Staley was fired, when the Chargers

615
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 4: defense completely gave up. And that's what it looked like

616
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Speaker 4: watching the Eagles trying to tackle like no one was

617
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Speaker 4: even trying.

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Speaker 5: And I know that Siani's.

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Speaker 4: Record exactly, his record with the team is good, and

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Speaker 4: he was just at the Super Bowl last year, and

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Speaker 4: you have players doing the Max Crosby thing, like Fletcher

622
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Speaker 4: Cox coming out and standing by their man and really

623
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Speaker 4: like kind of pleading to Jeffrey Loriie for him to

624
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 4: stay I think, but watching Jeffrey Loriie at that last

625
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: game against the Bucks, like I thought for sure that

626
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 4: Sirianni was going to be gone.

627
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Speaker 5: That was it.

628
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Speaker 4: So I'm kind of surprised that he's sticking around, but

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Speaker 4: it seems like he's sticking around on an extremely short leash.

630
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Speaker 4: I don't know what happened between, like where the friction

631
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 4: was with Jalen Hurts and the offensive staff as well,

632
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 4: because it wasn't just the defense. The offense too was

633
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 4: just not doing what it was supposed to be doing.

634
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 4: And when you return nine of your eleven starters on

635
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 4: offense and you have an MVP runner up as the quarterback,

636
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 4: and you have two incredible wide receivers and a really

637
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 4: good tight end and one of the best offensive lines

638
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 4: in the league, you should absolutely be able to do

639
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 4: more than they did.

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Speaker 6: I have a theory what I've been working happen this

641
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 6: What if it's just all inexplicable like football results, Like

642
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 6: literally no one knows why did that all happen. There

643
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 6: actually isn't a reason other than maybe they didn't adjust

644
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 6: enough offensively, and that that's a big thing. Like there

645
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 6: everyone who's into the ex's and is like they just

646
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 6: ran back the same offense as they did a year ago.

647
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Speaker 6: But to be fair, like the offense was kind of

648
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 6: fine until the last three weeks of the season. It

649
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 6: was pretty good until the last three weeks of the season,

650
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 6: and then they joined the defensive collapse and just like

651
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 6: and then I know that's what I mean though, but

652
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 6: what if, like literally no one knows. I think that's possible.

653
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 6: That's like, I don't know why this team fell apart totally,

654
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 6: Like they're like, there isn't a reason, it's just the possible.

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Speaker 1: Save them for the next segment.

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Speaker 5: I was thinking about that, but that is a mystery, one.

657
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Speaker 3: Of the great mystery. And I think, yeah, I think

658
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 3: the no one because no one's talking.

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Speaker 6: Answer and them keeping Siriani, maybe they at least don't

660
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Speaker 6: know the answers. So they were just like got I

661
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 6: think they like Nick.

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Speaker 4: They could blame it on the new coordinators, sure, like

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Speaker 4: that's a huge difference, but still it's.

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Speaker 2: The easy move. That's the move when you don't want

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Speaker 2: to go. It's a half measure, is what it feels

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Speaker 2: like to me. And what happens when they start two

667
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Speaker 2: and six next year, Not saying they will, but then

668
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Speaker 2: you lose another whole season for a coach that you

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Speaker 2: already saw last year. They already told you they don't

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Speaker 2: want to play for him, So it's a it's a

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Speaker 2: big gam I think it's a massive gamble, Countie. You

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Speaker 2: bring him back when if it doesn't work next year,

673
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Speaker 2: you're going to there's gonna be a ton of second guessing.

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Speaker 2: So this is first guessing saying, hey, like, this is

675
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Speaker 2: your fault. You lost another year here because they told

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Speaker 2: you by the way they played that they were done.

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Speaker 1: With this head coach.

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Speaker 4: And I have to look at the cap space and

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Speaker 4: I have to look at the free agents for next

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Speaker 4: year too. I don't know what type of shape they're

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Speaker 4: even in.

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Speaker 6: But you have a lot of big decisions to make, because.

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Speaker 4: It seemed like last year they did and they just

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Speaker 4: made it work and it looked like it was going

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Speaker 4: to be good, and Mark, it just wasn't.

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Speaker 7: I don't like teams that have their third o C

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Speaker 7: in third DC in three seasons, Like for a team

688
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Speaker 7: that a year ago where like they're so consistent, their

689
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Speaker 7: front office is so forward thinking, it seems like.

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Speaker 3: Whatever, and they lost the first two because they went

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Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl. No I mean, but it's still transition.

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Speaker 7: It's still transition, and it's like I kind of feel

693
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Speaker 7: like when Doug Peterson refused to make staff changes before

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Speaker 7: his exit, that it doesn't feel like this serious coaches

695
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Speaker 7: don't want to fire their own guys, their own assistance,

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Speaker 7: even even with the deciding what I'm saying, like they're

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Speaker 7: loyal to the dudes for the most part, Like you don't.

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Speaker 1: You know what they're getting fired.

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Speaker 7: But but I'm saying, I think it was LORI probably

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Speaker 7: saying you're here on you're obviously on the eleventh the

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Speaker 7: eleventh hour here Syriani, but like you've got a clean house,

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Speaker 7: and I think you could lose the rest of your

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Speaker 7: staff by doing that. The players already have issues, Like

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Speaker 7: it's a chaotic swirl for the Eagles in this offseason.

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Speaker 3: They can look a lot different.

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Speaker 5: Well changed, Big Dom, So that might be.

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Speaker 6: That's the Big Dom did come back for the playoffs

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Speaker 6: and that was maybe their worst game, I mean better. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: he was back on the sidling.

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Speaker 7: For the play well, the trigger it just postseason, it

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Speaker 7: was just society didn't well at least I killed that theory.

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Speaker 3: You can't all offseason guy back.

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Speaker 2: On the the moment he put hands on that player

714
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Speaker 2: is really when it began.

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Speaker 6: That's fair.

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Speaker 1: You know that could be that could be a seventy

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Speaker 1: year curse calling. You just know, you never know what

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Speaker 1: those things right.

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Speaker 5: Don't get to get that juju off of me.

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Speaker 6: Rouse. You know who's interviewing for the Eagles defensive coordat

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Speaker 6: to drop among other people? Who Ron RIVERA Wow, I'm

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Speaker 6: just like, wow, this guy loves ball. He doesn't need

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Speaker 6: the money, but he loves.

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Speaker 2: Let's spin the coaches carousel, by the way, let's wrap

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Speaker 2: this up. The Jaguars. Jaguarars hire former felt Oh, this

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Speaker 2: is a good transition to.

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Speaker 3: Our next segment.

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Speaker 2: They hire former Falcons D c. Ryan Nielsen, so he's there,

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Speaker 2: gonna run the show there. Shane Waldron lands with the Bears.

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Speaker 2: He's their new OC, so he's got I have a

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Speaker 2: lot of eyes on him. So there's two more. And

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Speaker 2: then in the front office ranks. The carousel spins as well.

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Speaker 2: Dan Morgan hired by the Panthers as their GM. He

734
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Speaker 2: was previously the assistant GM under the previous dude Scott

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Speaker 2: Scott Fitter, who was fired after the Panthers went two

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Speaker 2: and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I do have a statement.

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Speaker 2: This is not temper Be talking, but this is an

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Speaker 2: episode of temper be a release in a statement.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, now that works all right here.

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Speaker 2: Dan has a thorough knowledge of our football personnel and

742
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Speaker 2: a clearer vision to take us where we all want

743
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Speaker 2: to go. We know he will attack this opportunity with

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Speaker 2: the same intensity he did as a Panthers player.

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Speaker 6: He was a linebacker or something, give me or something.

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Speaker 6: He was like one of the sorry, oh my god, hey,

747
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Speaker 6: if someone said that about C. J. Moseley, I say, like,

748
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Speaker 6: you stick it to me. You had stick it to

749
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Speaker 6: get stick it to me. Those concussions though he had.

750
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Speaker 6: He was kind of a poster boy for too many

751
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Speaker 6: concussions and it ruined his career.

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Speaker 1: Great, well, that's the guy I want running my football team.

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Speaker 6: I'm surprised that they stayed in house considering are you yes,

754
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Speaker 6: because it's like things, because they interviewed because nobody wants to.

755
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Speaker 7: Think Tepper's like, I want someone who's gonna follow my orders.

756
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Speaker 7: I mean also, I mean Bear Morgan rose up through

757
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Speaker 7: the ranks to become like the director of pro personal

758
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 7: with the Seahawks during their big run. He was with

759
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Speaker 7: the bills, So I mean, he's not being pulled out

760
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Speaker 7: of nowhere. But I am not that surprised. It didn't

761
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Speaker 7: surprise me that Tepper couldn't go get a powerful, experienced

762
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Speaker 7: candidate from outside of the building when he needs people

763
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Speaker 7: simply to follow his order.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they did like seven or eight interviews. They've had

765
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Speaker 6: so many second interviews with head coaches that it's almost

766
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Speaker 6: not worth listening. We'll see who they end up high.

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Speaker 6: I want Ron Rivera going back there. That seems perfect.

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Speaker 6: He could handle it. He dealt with Snyder, He's already

769
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 6: been in the building. He knows where the bathrooms are.

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Speaker 6: The Waldron news to me, is the biggest here. Nielsen

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Speaker 6: did a great job I think for the Falcons overall

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Speaker 6: with the town. Yeah, that's a nice high for them.

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Speaker 6: But the Waldron news is big because, first of all,

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Speaker 6: we heard this news that maybe Cliff was interviewing for

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Speaker 6: that job. I'm glad they didn't hire Cliff Kingsbury. Kingsbury's

776
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Speaker 6: interviewing around. Waldron takes that job. I think, knowing he's

777
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Speaker 6: got the number one overall pick, and I think Waldron

778
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 6: did an overall very good job. Another McVeigh tree guy

779
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 6: in Seattle the last couple of years with Gino Smith.

780
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Speaker 6: You know, Dave Canallis got so much pop. Moving to

781
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 6: Tampa and being the QB coach, it was Shane Waldron

782
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 6: who was running that offense the last three years, and

783
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 6: for the most part, I think he's a good play caller.

784
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 6: He is balanced, Like they were creative enough. I know

785
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 6: they weren't like incredible, but they were good. And he's

786
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Speaker 6: probably gonna be working with Caleb Williams or Drake May

787
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Speaker 6: whoever they choose.

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Speaker 4: And then when he was with Golf, Golf had two

789
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 4: of his best seasons as a passer when Waldron was

790
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,760
Speaker 4: the Rams passing game coordinator and quarterbacks coach in twenty

791
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 4: eighteen twenty nineteen. So it's like, who's he going to

792
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 4: be calling plays for. We don't know if it's Justin

793
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: Fields or Caleb Williams, but they hired someone who's going

794
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 4: to maximize the talent on that roster, and they need

795
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 4: someone who's going to create a little bit more of

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Speaker 4: a balanced.

797
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Speaker 6: They didn't want to wait. They didn't wait because this

798
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 6: coaching process is taken forever for all these teams, It's

799
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 6: never taken this long, and so they snapped up someone

800
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 6: quick that I think would have been in all of

801
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 6: these interviews. Once head coaching guys got hired, and he

802
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 6: took it because he's like coaching the number one over

803
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Speaker 6: I'll pick that's how I get a head coaching job

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Speaker 6: next year.

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Speaker 3: I think they took rise.

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00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 7: They brought in Cliff Kingsbury in a bit of trickery

807
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 7: just to get some Williams information. Lift thought he's getting

808
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 7: flown into town for a steak lunch and it's like,

809
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 7: we're just gonna pick your brain and then send you

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00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 7: back home.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't seem nice.

812
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Speaker 5: I'm sure he got just a theory.

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Speaker 3: I don't. It's not a report.

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Speaker 2: It's a cutthroat situation. Just like you calling the old

815
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 2: man into the office. You got a little vacation editing

816
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Speaker 2: in a cardboard box.

817
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Speaker 5: Take a seat.

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Speaker 6: I feel like, based on Cliff's house, he doesn't need

819
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 6: steak dinners to be paid for. He's good. He's talking

820
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 6: to the Steelers about their oc job. According to Peter King,

821
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Speaker 6: any other.

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Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury news, you're good, all right, that's what's happening

823
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Speaker 2: in the news.

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00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: All right, what is that?

825
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: Hey?

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00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: What is this award that we're trying to win what

827
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 2: one of the shadowy League figures sent a text like, hey, idiots,

828
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: like try to win this award, like plug it on

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Speaker 2: the show.

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00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 6: This is this is why we we know we've made it.

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Speaker 6: It only matters so much to us. It is the

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Speaker 6: sports podcast awards that college hosted. It's a UK property.

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Speaker 6: That's right, we're nominated for Best American Football Podcast and.

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Speaker 1: We've got to win that award.

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Speaker 2: Listen, we don't ask for much from the listeners, but

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Speaker 2: where is that? Can you tell us Eric where they

837
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: can go vote for for around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Let's bring home a trophy.

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Speaker 3: Who are we up? In a while Europe?

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Speaker 9: It looks like it's on sports podcastgroup dot com Okay,

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Speaker 9: and then it's yeah, it's under the Best American Football Podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Just vote for us, that's all. Let's let's take a chip.

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Speaker 9: I'll throw it up on all the all the socials.

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Speaker 9: I g so make it nice and USIA.

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Speaker 6: We're going against eisen Overreaction Monday, which I guess is

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Speaker 6: a separate thing from his shows in the Mix Uh

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Speaker 6: Shannon Sharpen and Ocho Sinco or in Mix hr Huddle.

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Speaker 6: If you're if you had moultiple votes. I would you know,

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Speaker 6: I would hurt huddles. You know that those are friends

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Speaker 6: of ours. God blessed football with Stu Goatts who took

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Speaker 6: some shots at you, Neil Reynolds and Jeff Reinbold inside

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Speaker 6: the huddle, We're going again. Friends with the most one

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Speaker 6: on the FONT, Matt Coombs pff NFL, the fantasy footballers

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Speaker 6: who we had on. There's too many people we know.

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Speaker 6: Why are we plugging them as options? Vote for us?

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Speaker 6: They're not options.

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Speaker 5: Dan's gonna have to talk to you.

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Speaker 9: There are a ton of options in every one of

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Speaker 9: these categories, but there's obviously only one number one.

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Speaker 3: If we can't win the the Overseas Best American Football.

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Speaker 5: Podcasts, I'm voting right now.

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00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: Well you know what I'm you know I'm doing. I'm

863
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Speaker 2: pulling the Max Crosby. If we don't win that award,

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Speaker 2: I quit, Okay.

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Speaker 3: I will? I will also quit.

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Speaker 6: Well what about what if you learned that these awards

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Speaker 6: have been this is the third year when we haven't yet.

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Speaker 6: This is our first time being nominate first nominations, So

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Speaker 6: what's going on? We did not win the awards previously.

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Speaker 6: Assuming this category, you're gonna quit if we don't win. No, No,

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Speaker 6: that was a nice Plan's gonna he's setting it up.

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Speaker 2: Well done, Greg, What we're gonna lose the award and

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Speaker 2: then Mark and I will quit and then over your show.

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Speaker 6: I don't want anyone to quit.

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Speaker 3: I think well done. I think it's all very strategic.

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Speaker 6: It's all good strategicy.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's uh no, let's win. Mark and I

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Speaker 2: are out if we don't win.

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Speaker 5: Did you guys vote?

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Speaker 1: I just voted, and this.

881
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 7: Isn't This isn't like I'm not even gonna vote because

882
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 7: I don't want it.

883
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, don's in the hands of the listeners.

884
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 3: That's glorious.

885
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: All right.

886
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 5: Yes, it's like when you lose by two votes. That's

887
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 5: gonna suck.

888
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: We're gone.

889
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: In fact, you know what, we're gonna do the move.

890
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 2: We're gonna do the election move from a few years ago.

891
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: We're leaving the country as well. Yep, we're going to

892
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: Canada or some other country. But yes, I mean, if

893
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: we're leaving, we're starting over. It may not be Canada.

894
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 5: Let's go to Mexico.

895
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: Now.

896
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 5: I'm going with you guys.

897
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 6: For some reason.

898
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: All right, Colleen's out too, Is that what you want.

899
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and uh then we're

900
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: gonna dig into some scary territory.

901
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 10: This program is about unsolved mysteries. Whenever possible, the actual

902
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 10: family members and police officials have participated in recreating the events.

903
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 10: What you were about to see is not a news broadcast.

904
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 8: Whenever you heard the voice over, it was like, get

905
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 8: out the blanket, make sure the back door's locked.

906
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 5: I hated it, hated it.

907
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: It is time now to explore some unsolved mysteries of

908
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: the NFL playoffs and beyond. And you know what, Mark,

909
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: you're a big conspiracy guy. Some mysteries don't want to

910
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: be solved, you know, and then they take on a

911
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 2: whole life of their own. So maybe that that's how

912
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: this ends. And it's always because you always wanted at

913
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: the end of the EPP of with Stack and Company,

914
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: you want to update and then want that wanted closure.

915
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: Visceral reaction to that when that happens.

916
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: So there's a frustration because we won't have any update

917
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: at the end of this episode, not that we know of,

918
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 2: but we're gonna put it out there.

919
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 1: What what needs to be solved, what's out there?

920
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 3: What is out there?

921
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: What was your favorite type of unsolved mystery episode.

922
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: I I like the paranormal ghost lady on the Lake

923
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: type stuff, so.

924
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 5: I got I hated that.

925
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate it if.

926
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 7: You go and because you know, now there's like the

927
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 7: channel that has like it's unsolved mysteries NonStop, warmly common

928
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 7: fast channel.

929
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: They they do.

930
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 7: There's a big problem with with unsolved mysteries in general

931
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 7: is that they have to go recreate with like typically

932
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 7: low level actors, right, and it's it's a lot of

933
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 7: them become unwatchable.

934
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: But my favorite plot line.

935
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: I made it more watchable for me. But teach there on.

936
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 7: You, well, yeah it was variable. I mean I to

937
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 7: me even as a child, for some reason, I always

938
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 7: liked the guy that was living like multi to pull

939
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 7: lives in different states back before the internet where it's like.

940
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: Well I'm just saying like it's it's.

941
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 7: It is incredible micro managing skills. Like it was always

942
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 7: some business guy that wasn't accountable to anyone, like able

943
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 7: to have like situation in Iowa, situation somewhere in like

944
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 7: northern California, flipping back between because all the rest like

945
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 7: ghost stories and murders and it's like cool, like That

946
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 7: one to me was like, weren't.

947
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: You so mad when the Internet came in and made

948
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: the world smaller?

949
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 3: We can't do it, can't do any That guy doesn't

950
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: exist anymore.

951
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 5: What happens when a family member is on Unsolved Mysteries?

952
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: M did that happen for you?

953
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 5: We've talked about a show.

954
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 3: He was on.

955
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 4: The On the show, John's grandfather disappeared in Vegas in

956
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 4: the eighties and his family was interviewed on Unsolved Mysteries

957
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 4: because they still it's still cold case. They never found

958
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 4: his body. They found his far at the airport at

959
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 4: mccaren and his name was not on any of the

960
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 4: flight manifest and the we actually got the police reports

961
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 4: from Vegas and it reads like a who done it?

962
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 6: Screen? I thought John was working on like an eight

963
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 6: part podcast about this.

964
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 5: Well, we'll see.

965
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: I would.

966
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: I would listen the hell out of that.

967
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, sometimes I just like, yeah, his his nineteen

968
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 4: eighty eight Cadillac was found at the airport, but no

969
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 4: evidence of him taking a flight.

970
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 3: I like to think he's he's somewhere in Mexico right now. Yeah,

971
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: the brighter end of the rainbow there. You know.

972
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: The worst episodes were I haven't seen my sister in

973
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: fifty years since we were split up at the orphanage.

974
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: Don't care.

975
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then they reunited just like mass night, raging

976
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 7: Hay for you.

977
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: Not for me.

978
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 4: I saw one where it was like talking about someone

979
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 4: spontaneously combusted and just like I like that and I

980
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 4: it shook me for my entire life. But I was like,

981
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 4: at some point, am I just going to like light

982
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 4: on fire and die?

983
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 3: It's possible.

984
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 5: I didn't know until Unsolved Mysteries.

985
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: All right, here we go, let's get into it. Greg,

986
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: it's time to unpack some Unsolved mysteries. Did you have

987
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: anything to share? Do you ever have a family member

988
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: on Unsolved Mysteries? I have not, nor have I. Have

989
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: you ever watched the show?

990
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 6: We have not.

991
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 7: I was sort of sensing Greg sitting back there a

992
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 7: little bit.

993
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 3: But that's fair.

994
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 5: You don't have any connection to Robert Stack.

995
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 6: I have not seen it.

996
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 3: He's being honest.

997
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 6: No one watched more TV than me from ages seven

998
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 6: to twelve. I challenge you, all.

999
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: All right, that's okay. Though you don't need to know it.

1000
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: We've talked about it enough on the show for you

1001
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 2: to be aware of a program. By now anyway, So

1002
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: I'll start. Are we about in Atlanta to Galaxy brain?

1003
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: Our way out of having Bill Belichick.

1004
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: As the head coach? Is that where we're at.

1005
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: The Athletic reported on Tuesday morning that Mike Vrabel is

1006
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 2: expected to interview for the vacant head coaching vacancy. When

1007
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: that happens, he will be the fourteenth person to do

1008
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: so this I love this. On Sunday Sunday.

1009
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 6: Scored two touchdowns of interviews.

1010
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 3: On Sunday with the extra points.

1011
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: On Sunday they knocked out two in one day.

1012
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 2: They got Texans OC Bobby Slowick, Detroit OC Ben Johnson.

1013
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: These guys had like playoff games. Do you think they were? Like?

1014
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: How efficient could that have been?

1015
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: At?

1016
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: What kind of interview could that have been?

1017
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 3: Those take a long time too, Yeah.

1018
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: Like those guys weren't able to prepare for those interviews.

1019
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 2: What's the point? I don't get it anyway, Rooney rule

1020
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: they are all over that as well. They've interviewed six

1021
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: minority candidates. The only guy so far of that group

1022
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: to get a second interview will be Raheem Morris and

1023
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: that will happen this week. So that Dell takes us

1024
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: back to Bill, and he has met with the Falcons twice,

1025
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: most recently on Friday, this again per the Athletic in

1026
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 2: a meeting that included Arthur Blank, the owner, team CEO,

1027
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 2: Rich McKay, team president, Greg Beatles, GM, Terry Fatna uh

1028
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: and and yet he doesn't have the job. It hasn't

1029
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 2: been offered. Bill hasn't taken any other formal interviews. And

1030
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: I think this would be a horrendous decision by the Falcons.

1031
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: I think it's a home run higher but there at

1032
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: least because of the depth Gregie, of how how deep

1033
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 2: they're going in this.

1034
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: It's not for show.

1035
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: They're they're really wrestling with the decision, or they've outright

1036
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 2: passed on Belichick.

1037
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 6: They're According to the Coaching Tracker on NFL dot Com,

1038
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 6: people should check that out, there's been eight second interviews

1039
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 6: or scheduled or completed eight second interviews.

1040
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: When does it become too much?

1041
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 5: By the way, f YI, well, I think I think

1042
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 5: we're already there.

1043
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 3: At what point do you when by analysis? When does

1044
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: that set in?

1045
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 6: I think I think the mystery here is, does does

1046
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 6: anyone really want Belichick? Because the reporting around Belichick from

1047
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 6: the outside sounds like the reporting that you would get

1048
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 6: if there actually wasn't much interest in Bill Belichick, and

1049
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 6: that his agent is using his connections to make it

1050
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 6: sound like Bill Belichick has a lot of interest. Oh,

1051
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 6: the Falcons are after him so hard. He's their number

1052
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 6: one pick. All this is happening. Okay, well look look

1053
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 6: what's actually happening. And then there's some pushback that like, no,

1054
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 6: actually the Falcons are looking at a million people. He

1055
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 6: may not be the number one pick. It's a weird setup. Oh,

1056
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 6: there's other teams that are really interested in him, including

1057
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 6: one that's still in the playoffs. You know if if

1058
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 6: they lose, and but they're circling him, it's okay, let's

1059
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 6: see it. Because there are only five openings left, and

1060
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 6: they all seem to be circling different people. I think

1061
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 6: the mystery, or possibly the solution here is that Bill

1062
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 6: Belichick doesn't really have that big of a market.

1063
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 4: What if he doesn't want it. What if he is

1064
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 4: the one who is lukewarm on coming back. What if

1065
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 4: he wants to do as Sean and type year and

1066
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 4: just do take.

1067
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 6: You twice with his job though, Well, but to your point,

1068
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 6: maybe he's like on the fence though, right they maybe

1069
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 6: even they did want it, but he doesn't want to

1070
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 6: be reporting to Rich McKay, you know, like and that's

1071
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 6: the setup there or whatever the setup's gonna be, right, Like.

1072
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 7: Belichick I think is probably very driven to get that

1073
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 7: Don Shula, Mark Beaton, I mean from one angle, but

1074
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 7: from another angle, like they really certain like they characterize

1075
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 7: it not as an interview with Arthur Blank. They talked,

1076
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 7: and I think a lot of it is Belichick saying,

1077
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 7: look it, I don't care who anyone is, like I've

1078
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 7: been I'm the greatest coach around. Maybe not in those

1079
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 7: words obviously, but like here's how I structure my front office.

1080
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 3: Here's how how I've been doing things.

1081
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 7: I've been doing it for twenty plus years, and the

1082
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 7: results speak for themselves. Like if you're gonna pick up

1083
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 7: put up blockades and make me at my age change

1084
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 7: and do things in a Falcon's way when the Falcons

1085
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 7: have nothing to show for it, like this doesn't fit

1086
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 7: for me. I could see it where he is peacefully

1087
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 7: saying I could wait a year or I don't have

1088
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna jump into the wrong situation.

1089
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: We don't know what the Falcons presented to him, and

1090
00:48:59,680 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 3: the ra.

1091
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: Went after Tom Brady a few years back, and then

1092
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: the Bucks got him and there wasn't a huge mark

1093
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 2: for tom Brady Otherwise. I think this is that same

1094
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: thing all over again, but with a head coach like

1095
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 2: take a chance on Bill like being more motivated than

1096
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 2: ever and getting the greatest, most successful coach in NFL history.

1097
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 2: I think it would be a huge mistake by the

1098
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: NFL on the level of the Lamar Jackson situation if

1099
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: you let this hiring cycle go by and everyone is like, nah,

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Speaker 2: that he's not going to.

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Speaker 3: Be for us.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but Lamar Jackson wasn't coming off of two awful seasons.

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Speaker 3: Well, they weren't high level seasons by his stand.

1104
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 6: No, they they were bad. He did a he got

1105
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 6: hurt both years and missed the end of the season.

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00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 6: Oh Lamar, I mean Lamar was playing well. My point

1107
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 6: is Bill Belichick did a bad job at what his

1108
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 6: job was the last two seasons, and it is a

1109
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 6: what have you done for me to.

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Speaker 1: Say that about Tom Brady.

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00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: It's all relative, but he was a guy that appeared

1112
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: to be in decline the last couple of.

1113
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 6: Years there even there, like those guys are playing at

1114
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 6: a level that's much higher than the average performer. I

1115
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 6: would say it's fair to point out Belichick did not

1116
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 6: coach and run that organization in an average way the

1117
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 6: last two seats. That's between the Patricia year and But.

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Speaker 1: This is my point.

1119
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: My point is if people are going to look at

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Speaker 2: how the end of the Patriots run when after Tom

1121
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: Brady left, I think you're overthinking it.

1122
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: When you have an opportunity to.

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Speaker 2: Give him a fresh start and listen, go hire some

1124
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 2: thirty seven year old offensive coordinator that's never been a coach,

1125
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 2: be the Raiders and hire a guy in Antonio Pierce

1126
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: that was an interim coach that was coaching.

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00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: High school the year before. That's all cool if you

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Speaker 1: want to do that.

1129
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 2: But like the idea of fair talking yourself out of Belichick,

1130
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Speaker 2: I just I think it's a possibility of a huge I.

1131
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 7: Think when you've rooted for a team where you've never

1132
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 7: had a Bell Belichick or anything close to him as

1133
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 7: a coach, your mind's going to like, why not take

1134
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 7: a shot?

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00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: Points you made earlier in news, it's not even a

1136
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: trend anymore.

1137
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: It's the way it is.

1138
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: Everyone wants to get the young guy now and you

1139
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 2: want it's like you want him to almost be the

1140
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 2: face of the organization. I think that's one of the reasons.

1141
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: Like my team, Robert Salace still is a job. They

1142
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: like the way he looks, they like the way he

1143
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: presents himself. In Belichick, it's a quarterback like a sev

1144
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: seventy two year old frumpy guy that's grumpy with the

1145
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: media and all that. Like maybe he's that's part of

1146
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: his problem now too. He doesn't look the part the

1147
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: NFL has changed.

1148
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 6: Well, and like what is his plan? Because there was

1149
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 6: reporting from Washington Post other from being grumpy, that his

1150
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 6: staff could include Josh McDaniels, Matt Patricia and Joe Judges.

1151
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

1152
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 6: But that's I think that's I think that's a little concerning.

1153
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 6: Absolutely is yes, I can't deny that. All right, God, Connie, Okay,

1154
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 6: give us an unsolved mystery of the NFL.

1155
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Speaker 4: Okay, So, this is a team that has given up

1156
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 4: four hundred yards in three games, three straight games. Defensively,

1157
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 4: they've given up seventy four plays of twenty plus yards

1158
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 4: this season, which is the third worst entire league. They've

1159
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 4: had six different quarterbacks throw for over three hundred passing

1160
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 4: yards against them, and only the Jags defense.

1161
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 5: Was worse this season.

1162
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 4: But the Lions are still in and their defense is

1163
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 4: just such a mystery to me because their run defense

1164
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 4: is incredible. They've only allowed one one hundred yard rusher

1165
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 4: this entire season, and it was a quarterback.

1166
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 5: It was justin fields.

1167
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 4: The most a running back had against them in a

1168
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 4: game sixty nine yards. That was ty Chandler in Week eighteen,

1169
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 4: ty Chandler. Their run defense is awesome. Aaron Glenn is

1170
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 4: getting all sorts of head coaching interviews. The players absolutely

1171
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 4: love him. They just do one thing really well and

1172
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 4: then everything else. They're just kind of mediocre in or

1173
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 4: bad in. They're bottom ten in sacks they're the middle

1174
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 4: of the pack, and total yards bottom ten and points

1175
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 4: allowed middle of the pack and takeaways.

1176
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Speaker 5: How are they doing it?

1177
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: Is this working Lion's magic?

1178
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 7: Baby?

1179
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 5: That's what I don't understand.

1180
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Speaker 6: I think offense being more important than defense is how

1181
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 6: in the end, like you gotta be you got to

1182
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 6: make some plays on defense, be opportunistic, situationally like look

1183
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 6: at the forty nine The forty nine Ers defense played

1184
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 6: terrible against the Packers until they didn't in the fourth

1185
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 6: quarter and they made a couple of plays, but like

1186
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 6: before that, they're kind of getting run over, even the Bills,

1187
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 6: I mean the Chiefs defense, like that was their worst

1188
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 6: game of the season. They get through, so I get

1189
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Speaker 6: that would be my.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the this last game, as an example, they

1191
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 2: forced Baker into two interceptions. One stop the opening drive

1192
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: led to points, the second one Mark ended the game.

1193
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: So they're opportunistic and their pass rush has gotten better.

1194
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 2: Hutchinson's been on a tear the last couple of weeks,

1195
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 2: so I guess it's maybe the numbers don't tell the

1196
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: full story of where the defense is right now in

1197
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 2: this moment under Aaron Glenn.

1198
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Speaker 5: Or they just have that magical.

1199
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Speaker 2: Thing, or maybe they do and we're gonna they'll have

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Marky. They're gonna be tested in

1201
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: a big way at the Big Bell Bottom on Sunday.

1202
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think you know, it comes down to

1203
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 7: the end. And they gave up twenty points to the Cowboys,

1204
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 7: twenty to the Vikings, and that started, you know, their

1205
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 7: playoff run after that, twenty three to the Rams, twenty

1206
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 7: three to the Bucks. They've generated some turnovers aiden Hutchinson's

1207
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 7: been playing you getting the best version of him neither.

1208
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Speaker 7: The Lions are just a different type of story where

1209
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 7: like they're winning close games here, but there's just something

1210
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 7: about the team that I think under Campbell that's like,

1211
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 7: we are deficient in certain ways.

1212
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Speaker 3: We understand it.

1213
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Speaker 7: We're still a team that's being built, and like a

1214
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 7: lot of their their draft picks hit so hard. I

1215
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 7: think that's why they've leveled up and won one extra

1216
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 7: playoff game. Then maybe they would have and it's like

1217
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 7: next year, this offseason put you amp up the defense

1218
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,959
Speaker 7: to some degree, but they're surviving. But they're not giving

1219
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 7: up forty five points a game here and having to

1220
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 7: win shootouts at the end of the season here like

1221
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 7: they were last year. Last year was like we've got

1222
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 7: to somehow score thirty eight points and give up thirty seven.

1223
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Speaker 7: It's a little bit different textually in terms of like

1224
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 7: what they've done in the last three or four weeks.

1225
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 6: And they come up with some big plays, like yes,

1226
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 6: they gave up a ton of yards last two weeks,

1227
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 6: but like you think of the stops, the negative plays

1228
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 6: they forced the Rams into to get him out of

1229
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 6: field goal range last week. So many times the Bucks

1230
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 6: get across midfield and then Baker you know, gets fooled

1231
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 6: by by a Blitz scheme that Glenn cooks up. So

1232
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 6: it's like to bend but break defense. But you're right,

1233
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 6: like the next two weeks, if they get to play

1234
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 6: two more games, they're they're gonna have to win shootouts.

1235
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Speaker 2: Uh, Greggy an Unsolved mystery Debating between two sof always tough,

1236
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: you know, but this team doesn't get a lot.

1237
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 7: But that's what the showrunners of Unsolved Mysteries how to do, Greg,

1238
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 7: So you do ununderstand how the production.

1239
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: And they came to stack with the rundown. Get this

1240
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 3: out of my face, rearrange.

1241
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 5: Smashes a bottle against the wall like whiskey.

1242
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 6: Is what does Jason Light see this Buccaneers team being

1243
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 6: mystery because I think he's sneaking down a good job

1244
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 6: with this team, drafting, keeping it together. They've really hit

1245
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 6: on their drafts better than almost any team in the

1246
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 6: league over the last six or seven years. E've been

1247
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 6: pretty good. Mike Evans is a free agent. He is

1248
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 6: going to cost an incredible amount and you could franchise

1249
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 6: tag him. That would be that would cost a lot

1250
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 6: on your gap. Levonte David is a free agent, Baker

1251
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 6: Mayfield is a free agent. Antoine Winfield, I would argue,

1252
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 6: is your best defensive player is a free agent and

1253
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 6: David might be second, So you're maybe your two best

1254
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 6: defensive players. Heck, even Chase McLoughlin's a free agent. Just

1255
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 6: a lot of pieces. I think they'll say goodbye to

1256
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 6: Devin White. But the biggest part of all this is

1257
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 6: how much do you really love Baker? Because I think

1258
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 6: when you mentioned the Gino Smith type of contract you

1259
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 6: you were probably right Dan of like, that's what it's

1260
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 6: going to take to that's what he's going to take

1261
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 6: to prevent him from going in the free agent market,

1262
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 6: which it would be something like twenty five to thirty

1263
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 6: million dollars a year and then maybe forty total guaranteed,

1264
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 6: where like if you really wanted to give up on

1265
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 6: him after one year, you'd have to eat it a

1266
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 6: little bit, which is which is what the Geno Smith

1267
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 6: deal was, which was what the Derek Carr deal was

1268
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 6: with the Raiders, actually not with the Saints. Do you

1269
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 6: want to do that for Baker? Are you willing to

1270
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 6: spend all this money because they have a lot of

1271
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 6: cap space on Evans and these other guys and actually

1272
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 6: move on from Baker.

1273
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,959
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think like Baker worked partially because it wasn't

1274
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 7: quite to the level of Tom Brady landing there. But

1275
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 7: this was a better roster than people, I mean the

1276
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 7: roster around yeah, people around him. People kind of wrote

1277
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 7: the Bucks office like a five win team, and a

1278
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 7: lot of it was like, well, Baker Mayfield feels like

1279
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 7: a placeholder and you got you know, at least I

1280
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 7: think the best sea the second best season of Baker

1281
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 7: Mayfield and like it came at the right time in

1282
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 7: the playoffs, like the whole thing, and like it worked.

1283
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 3: And it's a nice story.

1284
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 7: But I think the teams have to be really, really

1285
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 7: careful of nice stories. And I'll give you another Browns

1286
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 7: example when they went ten and six back in the

1287
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 7: day with Romeo Crenell and Derek Anderson and and as

1288
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 7: that season came crashing to a halt and they missed

1289
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 7: the playoffs, you could kind of see through it and

1290
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 7: it was like, well in what they did was because

1291
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 7: they had never had that kind of success. Was they

1292
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 7: re upped Romeo Cornell in a monster contract, re up

1293
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 7: Derek Anderson and brought in a bunch of like half

1294
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 7: big free agents and they were being talked to there.

1295
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 7: We gave him the most primetime games in the league

1296
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 7: and then went on like the worst scoring drought of

1297
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 7: any team in like forty five years or something.

1298
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 3: So I think, if you're the bit you have, you're

1299
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 3: the bucks.

1300
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 7: You have to be self scout and say we were

1301
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 7: in a terrible division inside wrapped inside a conference that

1302
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 7: was gonna make it easy to go through a trapdoor

1303
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 7: into the playoffs. But don't deceive yourself. Bigger might deserve

1304
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 7: to stick around, but don't annoint him as the starter yet.

1305
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 7: I'd say look in the draft like a competition, but

1306
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 7: also give him credit for what even.

1307
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 6: Mike Evans, as great as he is, is gonna be

1308
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 6: thirty one next year and is probably gonna like, does

1309
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 6: he even fit better on a team that can just

1310
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 6: give him sixty million dollars over two years to try

1311
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 6: to go win a Super Bowl, you know what I mean?

1312
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 6: Versus having to pay that much money in.

1313
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 5: This is off topic. Is Mike Evans a Hall of Famer?

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00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: I think he's probably right there now because it's been

1315
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 2: so so many years.

1316
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 6: What Eleven Stry he feels like one of those guys

1317
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 6: that's gonna be slowly like he'll be a semi finalist

1318
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 6: for five years and then at the end of his thing,

1319
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 6: it'll be like he'll get into the room and he'll

1320
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 6: be like on the border and one of those guys

1321
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 6: will have to wait forever because he doesn't have it's

1322
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 6: so tough too, doesn't have those all things.

1323
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: I think you mentioned the Browns is an example that year.

1324
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: Jets said the same thing with Ryan Fitzpatrick after he

1325
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: had a great season out of nowhere.

1326
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 3: A good season out of nowhere.

1327
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: It's very easy for these middling teams that are maybe

1328
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 2: a coup ball bounced the right way and you win

1329
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: a playoff game to talk yourselves into, oh, let's bring

1330
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: this the core of this team back, and then it's like, well,

1331
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: this team actually isn't that good and they won a

1332
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,439
Speaker 2: bad division, and this is a lot of the core

1333
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: players from the Super Bowl team from three years ago

1334
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: that continue to get older, and you could make the

1335
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 2: same You can make a case, which is weird because

1336
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: you're coming off a team that was just in the

1337
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: essentially the quarterfinals of a Super Bowl tournament to blow

1338
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 2: the whole thing up like you could do that too, right,

1339
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 2: and it might not be the wrong decision, which typically

1340
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: you don't say about a defending division champion that won

1341
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: a playoff game.

1342
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: But they are in a weird space where they could

1343
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: go two ways.

1344
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 6: Imagine if Antoine Winfield hadn't done that play against Carolina

1345
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 6: where he knocked the ball out at the half hour

1346
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 6: eighteen and the you know, the Bucks didn't score an

1347
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 6: offensive touchdown in that game, and like that the season

1348
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 6: had ended.

1349
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 3: There.

1350
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 2: Mike Evans has my vote, Colleen. Yeah, not in the

1351
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 2: Superstar club, but the Hall of Fame. Weird occupies a

1352
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 2: very weird, unsolved mystery of his own.

1353
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 3: In my opinion, it might serve.

1354
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 6: A little bit of Reggie Wayne, but not He didn't

1355
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 6: get the as many like primetime games and stuff like that,

1356
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 6: but occupied a similar space. Yeah, Andre Johnson, he's in

1357
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame, right, I mean, Andrew Johnson to

1358
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 6: me is another level above.

1359
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 4: But yes, and then Tom Brady aside, like the quarterbacks

1360
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 4: that he's been with, Mike Evans has been kind of

1361
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 4: quarterback proof.

1362
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 3: That's a big argument for him.

1363
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 6: I thought, absolutely he would have better numbers if he

1364
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 6: had had a better quarterback Mark.

1365
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: Mark, you are a lot to choose from.

1366
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 6: No Mark told us he had twenty seven different.

1367
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 3: Twenty three of them were you know.

1368
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: The brain I want to know.

1369
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 3: I think the Eagles collapse.

1370
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 7: When something like that happens, you kind of forget about

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01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 7: the second biggest collapse sometimes. Right, It's like Eagles became

1372
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 7: such a big story and they were part of.

1373
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 3: Our flash point.

1374
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 7: But what about down in Miami a team that I

1375
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 7: am absolutely was torn to pieces by most winning teams

1376
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 7: in general, but the Ravens exposed them in every possible way.

1377
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 7: I think that launched Lamar Jackson and ended the MVP

1378
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 7: race right there. They have a critical game at home

1379
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 7: against the Bills that they lose, and you and the

1380
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 7: division floats away, and the early season luster and the

1381
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 7: idea that Mike McDaniels, who is an incredible press conference guy,

1382
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 7: had some sort of like hand or secret over the

1383
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 7: rest of the league when they were scoring seventy points

1384
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 7: on the Denver Broncos back in Week three. Goes on

1385
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 7: from there into inclement conditions and Kansas City. The offense

1386
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 7: never shows up. The defense gives the Chiefs one of

1387
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 7: their best offensive performances of the year, and you now

1388
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 7: march into an offseason, this team that looked like they

1389
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 7: were going to soar to playoff wins with the second

1390
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 7: worst cap situation in the league. And I know that

1391
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 7: you can say all these things are just solvable, but

1392
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 7: they are fifty eight million dollars in the red. You

1393
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 7: have got a flock of free agents. Jerome Baker, Connor Williams,

1394
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 7: your center, Christian Wilkins, Andrew Van Ginkle.

1395
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 6: These guys all sound like they're going to get murdered with.

1396
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 5: This is a character. If I am convinced that you've made.

1397
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 7: Up man Ginkle, I think he's you know, through two

1398
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 7: coaching staffs, he's been a difference maker for all Right,

1399
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 7: They've got three, three or four offensive linemen, uh who

1400
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 7: are free agents.

1401
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 3: They already were really short at wide receiver.

1402
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 7: As soon as they lost Wattle, it looked like they

1403
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 7: were exposed at that position. They have to start over

1404
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 7: at that position. Essentially all the backup guys are gone too.

1405
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: Over.

1406
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 7: Well, I'm saying, just beyond your two stars. You lose

1407
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 7: one star and they don't they're not the same.

1408
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: Team, and the other star needs to get paid soon.

1409
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 3: That's right. You've got problems.

1410
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 7: I mean, I am just sort of saying also that

1411
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 7: you are in this place where you can look at

1412
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 7: Tua and I understand that he's one of these guys.

1413
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 3: It's like the people that are pro Toua.

1414
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 7: You can paint any picture you want, but I can't

1415
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 7: repaint the picture of what happened to him down the

1416
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 7: stretch and in that playoff game. And it's like, I

1417
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 7: just feel like he's a quarterback. And I have my

1418
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 7: own thoughts on Tua where he's like very capable, accurate,

1419
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 7: there are good things about him. It's not not to

1420
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 7: put him in one box. But do you trust him

1421
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 7: in the biggest NFL moments that your team's going to encounter.

1422
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 7: I think we've got a couple we've got so we've

1423
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,919
Speaker 7: got to sample size where the answer is no. And

1424
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 7: you are Mike McDaniel, who is You've come out of

1425
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 7: the belly of Kyle Shanahan, who for a decade plus

1426
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 7: has had like an intense man crush on ky On

1427
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 7: Kirk Cousins.

1428
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 6: Oh this is Allie.

1429
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 3: I'm just wondering if, like, do.

1430
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 7: You just sit there with Tua, Because I would say

1431
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 7: one thing about Mike McDaniel He's gone as far as

1432
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 7: he can to build up the confidence.

1433
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 3: Publicly of Tua.

1434
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 7: He has been his supporter verb belief from wire to wire.

1435
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 7: I'm just saying that someone like Kirk Cousins other options

1436
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 7: in the world. If you're Mike McDaniel and you feel

1437
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 7: like an inflection point of like, we can't just repeat

1438
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 7: this same season where you walk into the playoffs and

1439
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 7: get waxed and cold weather, how do you change things?

1440
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 3: What is Mike McDaniel's next move.

1441
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 5: There a lot of questions. Y, I appreciate how that

1442
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 5: was good.

1443
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 6: I want that entire thing on Instagram.

1444
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 2: Well, welcome to the fish fry. I've been here for

1445
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 2: a while and you're the seats.

1446
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 3: Right next to me.

1447
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 7: I also appreciate having you not have to take every

1448
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 7: bullet from that fan base, like they've got to have

1449
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 7: open eyes.

1450
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 3: And it's not just.

1451
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 2: They had they did not have open eyes, and and

1452
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: they their offense went into a funk last year too

1453
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 2: that people looked away on and just said, oh, well,

1454
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 2: two it was hurt and all this stuff. I got

1455
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 2: to see if that offense is functional when it's not

1456
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: Super Bowl September in Miami, And yeah, there's there's a

1457
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 2: lot of work to be done there to see them

1458
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: as a real content I don't need to add anything

1459
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 2: else because I was saying it all year.

1460
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,479
Speaker 4: It was the same questions that we had about this team,

1461
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 4: and they showed us the answer in the most important

1462
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 4: and biggest game possible. We weren't sure how they would

1463
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 4: play against good teams, and we definitely weren't sure how

1464
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 4: they would play against good teams on the road, and

1465
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 4: then that's exactly what happened, And that was the concern

1466
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 4: all season long, and it came to fruition.

1467
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 6: I think defensively, there's a lot to be excited about,

1468
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 6: and they can keep most of their people. Year two

1469
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 6: of vic Vango that was really showing dividends before the

1470
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 6: injuries struck. But everything you said is really well positioned, Mark,

1471
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 6: because I think they're in a very difficult spot where

1472
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,919
Speaker 6: they have a lot of challenges to keep this team

1473
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 6: together and very difficult decisions to make, and yet they

1474
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 6: have these high expectations and yet they haven't really achieved

1475
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 6: that much. It might be the most difficult spot you

1476
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 6: can be in. It's like true, you know what I mean,

1477
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 6: Like the expectations are high, but there's a chance it

1478
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 6: could all crash in really tough decisions, but you actually

1479
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 6: haven't put any playoff wins in your pocket. It's a

1480
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 6: tough spot that their GM Chris Greer and their coaches in.

1481
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 3: And I like McDaniel. We all like McDaniel, right, some

1482
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 3: of us love him, some of.

1483
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: Us are adore him. He's what work there.

1484
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 6: I think they can avoid it falling apart, but I

1485
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,439
Speaker 6: think in terms of their roster, they have as many

1486
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 6: questions as anyone.

1487
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 3: Ugly ending to the season for sure.

1488
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: All right, I think that's good.

1489
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 2: I think we're good, right, Yeah, Colleen, Yes, Dan, are.

1490
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 3: You attending Super Bowl fifty eight? I am?

1491
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: Are you still going up in that fighter jet?

1492
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 5: Oh my god, the Thunderbirds? Yes, I am.

1493
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 3: I can, like, is it you and one other pilot?

1494
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1495
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 7: So you're not like playing gun or I'm not saying

1496
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 7: that you'd be shooting and gut like, you're not like

1497
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 7: you don't play a role.

1498
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 3: You're just a passenger.

1499
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 5: I'm just a passenger.

1500
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 4: But there's like five hours of training and like medical

1501
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 4: assessments I have to go through first.

1502
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 6: And yeah, I mean, if I are you trained to

1503
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 6: be the passenger?

1504
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 5: If I have to eject. I have to eject. Okay,

1505
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 5: so I cannot wait.

1506
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: I've been falling down some YouTube wormholes.

1507
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 3: Lately, about the Thunderbirds, just about everything.

1508
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: My algorithm's out of control lately.

1509
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 2: I was watching watch the twenty six minute video by

1510
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 2: the mechanics of the Titanic sinking, and then that spit

1511
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: me into some different lanes, and then it spit me

1512
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 2: to here's a world ninety six year old World War

1513
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 2: Two pilot.

1514
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 3: Guy.

1515
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 2: You know, guy can barely walk, you know, he's ancient.

1516
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 2: They load him up in the old fighter jet and

1517
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 2: after showing a whole real montage of you know, able

1518
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 2: bodied young people passing out due.

1519
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 5: To the G four, I know, I'm really worried about it.

1520
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 2: And then Gramps is up there and he no, no effect.

1521
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 2: No Gramps, the veteran who's been in, who had been

1522
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 2: many battles. And then all I could think was calling

1523
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 2: him into the office and being like, Gramps, I'm taking

1524
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 2: your wings.

1525
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 3: You're fired.

1526
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: Get the Jesus.

1527
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 3: Wow, because that gives you a chance to really get

1528
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 3: one over on him.

1529
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 7: You were like, you've got some lineage issues, but I

1530
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 7: it is making for good listening.

1531
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 4: Have you ever been a boss of like people that

1532
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 4: you could particularly fire.

1533
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,560
Speaker 1: Not yet, but I'm looking forward.

1534
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 5: To hoping that doesn't happen though.

1535
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 2: But it's a lot of family stuff that that I think,

1536
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 2: you know, especially like a grandfather if you could, if

1537
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 2: you can, I respect.

1538
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 7: You, but it's sort of like a Godfather fantasy for you,

1539
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 7: where you're like al Pacino in the bathroom finding.

1540
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 6: That I respect you.

1541
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 5: But ego, So, yeah, I'm worried about passing out.

1542
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 2: I think you will, I guess, is what I'm going

1543
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 2: to say. I know you've you've flown before. Oh, I've

1544
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 2: flown before many times, right, uh huh, but you've never

1545
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 2: gone I did.

1546
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 4: I did my ground school for my pilot's license, I

1547
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 4: got my not not all the hours I needed for

1548
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 4: my private didn't solo, but I've been up there, and yeah,

1549
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 4: I've never pulled g's before. But when I was talking

1550
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 4: into the pilot Jeez, I said that I was worried

1551
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 4: about passing out and or throwing up. Really don't want

1552
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 4: to do either one of those things, and she was like, oh,

1553
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 4: I'm not worried about it. Women's bodies are more physiologically

1554
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 4: capable of handling the g's so usually when people throw

1555
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 4: up or pass out, it's men, I swear, and I

1556
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 4: was like, I'm sorry, can you just say that one

1557
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 4: more time?

1558
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: You dropped down?

1559
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 6: What if the man is sixty percent g oh, oh

1560
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 6: my god.

1561
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 3: I was sitting on that for ten minutes.

1562
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 5: So yes, I'll be at Super Bowl.

1563
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 4: I'll make it to Sunday as long as now it

1564
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 4: goes okay on two.

1565
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 2: Not only you know, is everyone counting on you, including

1566
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 2: your war veteran father.

1567
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: That's right, who's who?

1568
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:45,879
Speaker 3: Flow? He flew missions?

1569
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was stationed at a missile silo.

1570
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 2: Now all good women of humanity are counting on you

1571
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 2: too to keep up the reputation.

1572
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 3: Of G Force.

1573
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 5: It's a lot of pressure, but I'm ready to handle it.

1574
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 7: I like that you harbored, like spontaneous USh and fears,

1575
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 7: but also jump into this assignment.

1576
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 5: I'll jump out of planes. Let's go.

1577
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Thank you everybody for listening.

1578
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 2: We will be back on Thursday.

1579
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 3: Title Game, Thursday preview.

1580
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: That's a big one. You got to pick up some

1581
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: guests for that.

1582
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 3: Spicy m Thank you.

1583
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: Connor Heed.

1584
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 6: The car