1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: war room for incenter news and draft analysis from deep 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Frescope, 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys like Ted Lamb and now your hosts Brian 5 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: brought us, David Hellman, Bucky Brooks and Kyle Yeomans. There 6 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: are one hundred and twenty days until the NFL Draft 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: in April twenty nine, twenty twenty one, will be here 8 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: before you know it. But the Draft Show continues on 9 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: here on talking cal or excuse me, on the Traft 10 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: Show presented by Miller like Gladger with us and well 11 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: the intro was Brian brought us up at the beginning 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: as always, talking about oh they took him one of 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: my favorite clips ever. Brian, thank you for giving that 14 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: radio gold for Cede Lamb whenever they selected CD Lamb. 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: He's also got the gold in terms of the polo 16 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: he's got on. He's got that Miller light swag with 17 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: the Draft Show logo with the background, Dave's rocking the 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: varsity jacket, David Helmont with us as always, and then 19 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: we've got Bucky Brooks in the house coming from CALLI 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: on the West Coast streaming in live. That's the kind 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: of insight you get here on the Draft Show is 22 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: the fact that you've got over fifty years combined between 23 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: these three covering the NFL Draft, and no matter where 24 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: they are in the world, there's still a part of 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 1: the Draft Show. But boys, how we doing this week? 26 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: There's been a lot that's changed since the last time 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: we talked, Brian. I think the Cowboys went from what 28 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: could have been the fourth overall pick, they're now sitting 29 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: at eleven and a chance to still win the division. 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: They're three and one since the Draft Show started, and 31 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: I think that has to credit what Derek Ingleton did 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: and starting the Draft Show back up. Well, yeah, absolutely, 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: And you know that was one of those things when 34 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: you you know, you look at the order of the 35 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: draft at one time, you're you're sitting in the forehole 36 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: and you're looking at this board in a completely different light. 37 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: And then you put some wins together and you have 38 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: a chance to win the division and now you're sitting 39 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: in somewhere near the middle of the board. And then 40 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: if you win and get in, you're now moving down further. So, yeah, 41 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: the right the dynamics of how the scouts even look 42 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: at it. You know, they're thinking, Okay, we're evaluating these players, 43 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: and now we're evaluating these players, and now we're evaluating 44 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: these players. So yeah, it's a it's a it's a 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: journey throughout. But you know, good for the Cowboys, good 46 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: for the fans, the opportunity to play in the playoffs. Said, 47 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: wherever they land in the draft order, you know, we'll 48 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: be there to talk about it to every step of 49 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: the way. What do you think about this, Bucky, Because 50 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean even from the last time we talk, the 51 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: Jets have won two straight games and the Jaguars have 52 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: locked up that top overall picks. Things continuously change in 53 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: the NFL, as I know we all have been aware of, 54 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: but I mean even more so over the last couple 55 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: of weeks. Yeah, I think what you see is the 56 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: competitiveness of the league. And despite what we on the 57 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: outside talk about when it comes to draft picks and positioning, 58 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: players and coaches are trying to win each and every week. 59 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: And we've seen that play out, and I think the 60 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: excitement that is building in Dallas, obviously it's about a 61 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: team that appears to be playing against best football going 62 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: down the stretch. And it's really a bit of a 63 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: blessing in the skies because now the draft positioning, we're 64 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: probably better aligned with what the needs are. And I 65 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: don't think you will have some of those tough conversations 66 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: that were existing before when the Cowboys were positioned in 67 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: the top five and we were talking about quarterbacks and 68 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: all that other stuff. Dave you agree with that, I'm 69 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: choosing to believe now I'm choosing to believe. Kyle. I'll 70 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: tell you this is our doing. Like you said, we 71 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: are responsible for this. You know, the players and coaches 72 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: on the team looked at our site and they're like, 73 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: holy crap, they're already talking about the draft. We gotta 74 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: do something about this and lo and behold. Yeah, honestly, 75 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: it sounds counter intuitive because obviously, if you care about 76 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: the draft, you want the best pick possible, and you know, 77 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: maybe maybe being in the top five could have presented 78 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: you in a situation where you can trade down. But 79 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: I feel way, I know people are gonna say I'm 80 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: blowing smoke, but like, I feel way less stressed out 81 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: about picking between ten and sixteen than I do. I'm 82 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm serious. Brian who are you Who are you gonna 83 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: pick with that top five pick? Who are you gonna take? 84 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: Oh we'll find is somebody to pick. Yeah, well we'll 85 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: find you know what, your quarterback situation hasn't resolved by 86 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: any means. Stop stop it, stop it. Oh no, you're 87 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: quite it's not it's not. And you know, and I 88 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: don't know people, and you know you've you know, yeah, 89 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: Bucky's right, This thing is now more line. You could 90 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: have taken one of those offensive linemen up there, but 91 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: you know that the quarterback was in play. You know 92 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: that that the tight end who was a freak athlete 93 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: was in play. I mean, there's a lot of things 94 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: to a lot of directions should go. I look at 95 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: it is this way though. I'm happy they're winning. I'm 96 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: happy they're having an opportunity for the division title. But 97 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm also thinking about what could I have done picking 98 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: at the top of every single round and maybe moving 99 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: some things around in order to help my team. That's 100 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: the selfish scouted me, thinking about am I closer to 101 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: the Packers and the Saints and those people, or do 102 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: I need to get help to try and do that? 103 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: And picking high in every one of those spots at 104 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: least affords me that opportunity. I believe, Hey, and those things, 105 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: those things are not mutually exclusive. Like you can want 106 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: the Cowboys to win and still be disappointed. You're absolutely right, Like, 107 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm not that disappointed using a top ten pick. I'm 108 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: very disappointed about not having pick thirty five, thirty six, 109 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: or pick sixty five, like those picks at the top 110 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: of the second, third, and fourth round. That's what gets 111 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: me excited. And you know, it's it's exciting what the 112 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: team is doing, but it's it's a little bit of 113 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: a bummer to know that, you know, those picks are 114 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: probably going to be more like six. Just just real quick, guys. 115 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: I mean, we saw last week the Cowboys play the Eagles, 116 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: and it looks like the Eagles have the same problems 117 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: that you have. You know that you look at their 118 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: defense and the secondary and now you're thinking, well, Philadelphia 119 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: is gonna be picking against ahead of us all day, 120 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, And that's and that's you know, when you 121 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: start you start thinking about Okay, and you could say 122 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: it about I guess all the teams, but especially a 123 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: team within your division. You see bad secondary play there, 124 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: what's the one thing the Cowboys are clearly going to 125 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: have to address their secondary Philadelphia could be just picking 126 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: one player off every time, you know, on defense, and 127 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: you know that's that's that That to me is what stressful, Dave, 128 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: when I have to walk that mind field of my 129 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: division opponents picking ahead of me, knowing that they've got 130 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: just as many issues on defense as I do. The 131 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: thing is, then, brand what you gotta do is you 132 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: gotta scout the scouts and how confident are you that 133 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: they can pick the right guys? And so it's looking 134 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: at them and saying, Okay, they have a need like 135 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: we have a need, but their track records suggested they 136 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: can't pick the right guy. We're not going to be 137 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: picking from maybe the same lot. And so I think 138 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: it's a situation where you probably feel better about the 139 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: team winning because I think it was probably more important 140 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: from a cultural standpoint that Mike McCarthy could fix the issues, 141 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: because if you lose the belief of the players in 142 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: the locker room, I don't really know what twenty twenty 143 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: one would it look like if this team fell apart 144 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: going down the stretch. And I think you look at 145 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia with their loss, they fall to sixth, and 146 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: they jump to six rather in the draft, so they're 147 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: gonna be picking above you, like Brian said, throughout the 148 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: rest of the draft. But outside of maybe those early 149 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: later round picks like the thirty five thirty six slide, 150 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: and then maybe then then the third round, fourth round, 151 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: so on. Outside of the disappointment of not picking that 152 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: high in each round, it's also the options that you 153 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: have early on already have ten picks, You could have 154 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: had thirteen or fourteen if you wanted to trade out 155 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: of the top five to try and land back to 156 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: where you're ultimately going to be right here at this moment. 157 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: But I kind of want to weld what both Brian 158 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: and Dave were talking about a moment ago and what 159 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: Bucky said in his opening statement. But with all the 160 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: uncertainty right now of what Dallas where they could be picking, 161 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean, they could lose this week and they're still 162 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: going to be in the top ten, or you could 163 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: win this week and not win the division. You're right 164 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: in the middle of the teens. And then if you 165 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: win the division, of course you're nineteen are up in 166 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: terms of the draft position, But what positions are out 167 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: there that you feel most comfortable about Bucky In terms 168 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: of drafting in the first round, do you think there 169 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: is a position that's out there that you feel more 170 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: comfortable picking than others. I think offensive tackles, I feel 171 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: really comfortable picking them. Where the Cowboys could be positioned 172 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: anywhere from eleven to nineteen or so. I think cornerbacks. 173 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: Depending on what style corner you're looking for, I think 174 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: you probably could feel good about maybe making a run there. 175 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: I am really iffy on the pass rushers this year. 176 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: I know there are a lot of names that would 177 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: be thrown out there, like Greg Russo from Miami or whatever. 178 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: I just don't know. I don't feel that as comfortable 179 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: with those guys. But I do feel really good about 180 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: offensive tackles, cornerbacks, and I would even throw tight ends, 181 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: even though I think everyone in Dallas would lose their 182 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: mind if they took another offensive player, particularly a pass 183 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: catching But I mean there's something to building strength on strength. Brian, Yeah, 184 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: I feel I agree with Bucky. You know, the more 185 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: that I've dived into what's going on, you know, And 186 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with I watched a kid last night 187 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: from Wake Forest, this Carlos Basham the defensive end, and 188 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, Okay, why is he a guy at 189 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: the bottom, near the bottom of the board when we're 190 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: talking about potential first round guys. Hey six four, two 191 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: hundred seventy four, two hundred and seventy five pounds, And 192 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, why isn't he not up there? Because 193 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: Bucky's right, These defensive ends, man, there's so many questions 194 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: about and there's so many different body types and there's 195 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: so many levels of production. But you know, to me, 196 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: it looks very strong with the with these offensive tackles. 197 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: I think this quarterback group, we've kind of talked about 198 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: him and what we think about them. I'm interested in 199 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: these corners as well. You know, Bucky's right, depending on 200 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: what kind of guy, uh that you wanted at cornerback, 201 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, you could you know. I was watching the 202 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: Kid from from Georgia the other day, and you know, 203 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: and I was just I was just kind of sitting 204 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: there in my and my mind thinking like, Okay, well, 205 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: you know this Tyson Campbell, and I'm thinking, Okay, he 206 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: looks good as a press corner. He's physical, Okay, can 207 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: he play in this style? The Cowboys going to switch 208 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: their their their their their scheme. You know, everybody's got 209 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: a little bit different fit. But man, you've got all 210 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: those former NFL players, sons that are playing these positions 211 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: at corner and the secondary and stuff. Sorting those guys out. 212 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: It's going to be a group, and I think you're 213 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: going to be able to choose the type of guy 214 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: that you want that best fits your scheme. So I 215 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: do love what I see at the cornerback spot. I 216 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: don't like what I'm seeing at defensive end. And I 217 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 1: hadn't yet seen a defensive tackle that I really love 218 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: with to be honest with you, hey, Brian, real quick, 219 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: just in case you aren't aware, Carlos Basham is the 220 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: cousin of your buddy Terrell Basham, who you love so much. 221 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: Here you go go, there you go. And he looks 222 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: the part. He physically when he plays that single digit 223 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: that nine was eighteen last year, but he looks the part. 224 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: And but man, it's always sorting out these defensive ends. 225 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: And maybe with the Cowboys, maybe with the emergence of 226 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, maybe you know, pair him with Lawrence. Maybe 227 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: that's something that's not so much oppressing you. We haven't 228 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: seen Bradley and I yet, maybe he comes in and 229 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: plays well, but I feel better about what I'm seeing 230 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: with these cornerbacks going forward here. If you're a Dallas 231 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys fan and that's the direction you want to go, 232 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: that's you took the words right out of my mouth, Brian, 233 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: because that's that's what I was trying to say. I like, 234 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: I get it you want to have a higher pick, 235 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: but I feel personally, let's say the Cowboys picked between 236 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: ten and nineteen, I feel so much better about drafting 237 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: Patrick Certan, Caleb Farley, j C. Horne, who you mentioned 238 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: is the son of Joe Horn. And then I would 239 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: maybe even I haven't watched him full disclosure, but just 240 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: knowing that Ohio State is DBU, I would throw Sean 241 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 1: Wade in there as well as maybe a guy who 242 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: you feel decent about in that range. Just knowing the 243 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: caliber of cornerback that they are that they typically put out, 244 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: I feel way better about drafting any of those guys 245 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: in that range than if they had been at five 246 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: or six or something like that. And then I would 247 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: just throw in Brian, I know you luck, I know 248 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: you love Kyle Pitts. I went and I went back 249 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: and looked at this. I mean, he seems to be special. 250 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm not guaranteeing that he's gonna be there, But if 251 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: you are a Kyle Pitts fan, I don't think picking 252 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: at eleven or twelve rules that possibility out. Only four 253 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: tight ends have been taken in the top ten in 254 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: the last twenty years. UM T. J. Hockinson a few 255 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: years ago, UM, Eric Ebron, thank you, Bucky Vernon Davis, 256 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: and uh and it's a North Carolina guy. That's why 257 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: I remember that. There you go, There you go. And UM, 258 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: I believe the fourth one was Kellen Winslow all the 259 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: way back in like two thousand and four. So it 260 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: doesn't happen that often. So it's it's at least plausible 261 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: to think Kyle Pitts could be there for you at 262 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: like the eleventh, twelfth, or thirteenth pick. So I don't 263 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: think it changes the topic of conversation all that much. 264 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, if you want to hear 265 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: me scream like when Ceedee Lamb got picked, I will 266 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: give you an absolute another sound bite for your show 267 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: next year. If Kyle Pitts is the guy that's taken, 268 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: they took him. Yeah, to your to your point, though, 269 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, I think there's maybe a couple it. Maybe 270 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: I think that that Farley will be gone. But you're 271 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: right certain those these Kendrick, I mean, those guys are 272 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of in that group of that 273 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: where you're talking about eleven, twelve, thirteen. That's if you 274 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: hold that that spot, you can very well be picking 275 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: nineteen now and we're looking at a whole different group 276 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: of players there. I will say Kyle Pitts will play 277 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: his final collegiate football game at AT and T Stadium 278 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: in Arlington coming up tomorrow. So just so you know, 279 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts is going to get an early tour of 280 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: the place because Florida is playing Oklahoma in the Cotton Ball. 281 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's opted out yet or not. 282 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: I haven't actually looked at that. But also I was 283 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: gonna say, I think I think might out. That's annoying. 284 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: Take that point away. Then all these guys are opting out, 285 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: which I don't. It's funny. So now here's the thing, Uh, Dave, 286 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: your guy Boogie Bashan is minute to go to the 287 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, so we might get a chance to see 288 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: him in the postseason, and we talk about the cluster 289 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: that we could have with all the pass rushes, whatever, 290 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: it might be a chance for him to kind of 291 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: separate himself from the others. Six five, two hundred and 292 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: seventy five pounds. And I agree with what Brian was 293 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: talking about in terms of looking the party. My goodness, 294 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a frill. He's a total freak. Yeah. 295 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: He he looks the part in that uniform, an old 296 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: krusty scout guy here when he sees somebody look and 297 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: when he's down into stance and you're like, oh, okay, 298 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: I see what's going on here. But yeah, that you know, 299 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: that's I'm looking for those guys as you continue to 300 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: fall down this draft board, and again, good for them, 301 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: there's gonna be players. It's a it's a totally different look. 302 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: You know, you got to evaluate all these guys. But 303 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: now you start to say, at nineteen, where's the possibilities, 304 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: what direction, what corners, what linebackers? You know, this team 305 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: needs help, they need defensive help. But you know, again, 306 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: that's that's my focus right now, is to find which 307 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: one of these guys is the best fit for this 308 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: football team. Well, and that's another great point, because there's 309 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of people listening to this and 310 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: listening to our show throughout the offseason and rolling their 311 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: eyes at the possibility of drafting an offensive player in 312 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: the first round. But this was a question that I know, Bucky, 313 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: or excuse me, Brian, you actually brought this up in 314 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: our group message. But I want to know from an 315 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: old krusty scout like yourself, like you said that your words, 316 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: not mine, just want to throw that out there, but 317 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: from someone from somebody who's been in a room like that. 318 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: Is there such thing as a momentum draft? I mean, 319 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: last year we saw that the wide receivers were the 320 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: position to be had, and the Cowboys had the best 321 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: one fall to them, arguably the best one fall to them, 322 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: and ceede Lamb at seventeen. You ultimately ended up with 323 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: a really nice draft that found defensive starters later on. 324 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: But is that the same kind of mindset? Is there 325 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: such thing as momentum whenever it comes to a war 326 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: room and it comes to draft picks, even if they 327 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: might not be your number one need at the time. Oh, 328 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: I absolutely believe in momentum and a draft. I feel 329 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: like that there's times where teams have reached for players 330 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: or they went out a sequence of how they really 331 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: saw a player and maybe their gut feeling on the board. 332 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: As they put a player up there there was a 333 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: split vote in the room. Somebody had to make a decision. 334 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: That's our guy. Half the scouts are hating it, half 335 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: the scouts are loving it. You know, you want a 336 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: consensus the best you can, and I do. I think 337 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: the Cowboys had great momentum in their draft last year. 338 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean, and they'll tell you about Diggs. They had 339 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: a first you know, they had grades on Digs where 340 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: if they got wiped out at seventeen, they could have 341 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: taken him there. So all of a sudden, you have 342 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: ceedee lamp. Okay, everybody's jacked about the pick. Now you 343 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,239 Speaker 1: make the next pick. It's Digs. Wow, we just got 344 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: a player, you know that we had a really high 345 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: grade on. So I think that you could you could 346 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: get a little rhythm in a draft and it starts 347 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: coming to you and that the board appears a little 348 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: bit clearer to you. So I absolutely believe in that, 349 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: and I think that sometimes you could take a player 350 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: and it throws off that rhythm of how you're picking 351 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: and you're reaching, and did we do the right thing? 352 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: Is there questions? I think the Cowboys were in a 353 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: great rhythm last year when they were drafting their board. 354 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: You know, Brian to pick it back on that point. 355 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: I believe that's why you have to vet everything out. 356 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: And we talk about the BA board. We have the 357 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: horizontal board where guys are broken down by position, but 358 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: then also the vertical board, and whether you have one 359 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five or one hundred and fifty prospects 360 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: on that board, if you stay true to it and 361 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: the grades are like consistent, I think what you do 362 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: is you just pick it off as it comes. And 363 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: so if you talk about Digs having a first round 364 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: grade because maybe he was there eighteenth best prospect on 365 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: the board, that is what you should do. You shouldn't 366 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: go out of turn trying to pick a guy. And 367 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: that's where you have to be really really mindful of need, 368 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: because sometimes in reaching for that need, you end up 369 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: taking a bad player and two three years later we're 370 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: having to go back and fish in the same pond 371 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: because we really didn't get it that was worthy of 372 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: being selected at this spot. See I will say that 373 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: isn't that bucky. I think that's exactly why I don't 374 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: believe that momentum exists, with all due respect to Brian, 375 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: because this all it resets every time you pick, Like 376 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: every time you pick, you've got to wait for the 377 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: other thirty one teams to pick, and then it all resets. 378 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: Like case in point twenty sixteen, everybody's high five and 379 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: about Zeke Elliott, it like everybody's excited. I don't think 380 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: there would anybody that was like two upset about passing 381 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 1: on EmSee you get to the next round and you 382 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: get wiped out. They lost Kevin Dodd and Emmanuel Ogba, 383 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: like back to back, right in front of them, and 384 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: they kind of had to scramble. And I think the 385 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: Jalen pick worked out better than a lot of people thought, 386 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: but it still probably wasn't what they wanted to do. 387 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: And then the next year you got a lot of 388 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: people that don't love Taco Charlton that picks not beloved 389 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: across the board. But then the next day comes and 390 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: you have two really solid defensive backs fall to you. 391 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: I Jordan Lewis felt like a steel at the time. 392 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: Again not talking about the way their careers panned out, 393 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: but the way the pick was received at the time 394 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 1: and the thought process, you came out of Friday of 395 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: that draft feeling really good about restocking your secondary, even 396 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: though a lot of people weren't in love with the 397 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: first round pick. So I just think, I think all 398 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: of these picks are unique unto themselves because of all 399 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: the circumstances. Well, you just mentioned you just mentioned the 400 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: players that are probably not going to be here, but 401 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: did you have them for two or three years. I'm 402 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: just talking about the rhythm of the draft in the 403 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: way because like Bucky's right, there's sometimes teams will reach 404 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: on players and it throws them off and they're all 405 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's like, you know, I remember this 406 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: in a in a draft with Bill Parcels when we 407 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: took to Marcus ware and like Parcels wanted Sean Merriman 408 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: and you know, and and we were adamant about where 409 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: where or where, and all of a sudden, it's like, 410 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, we take, we take, we take where Parcels 411 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: is picked. But the momentum carried us to like, okay, 412 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: let's focus on Marcus Spears, Let's focus on the next guy. 413 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: And we were we were working our way that but 414 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: it was it was, it was it was having that 415 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: plan and executing the plan and the momentum going forward 416 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: where you know, Parcels was pissed and we didn't care. 417 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: You know, we were focused on we were focused on 418 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: our guy. And then all of a sudden we drew 419 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: Parcels back into the draft because oh wait, Spears is there, 420 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: and he's like, Jerry goes Brian, tell me who's going 421 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: to take defensive ends in front of us? I said, Cincinnati, Minnesota. 422 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: You know, those teams took two defensive ends, but they 423 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: didn't take Spears. And then then the next I mean, 424 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: it just was I believe in the wave of that, 425 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: the feeling of the room, that's the that's the momentum 426 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm drawing from it. Yeah, you get the players are different, 427 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: You're right, But the feeling you get as like, hey, 428 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: we're nailing this thing. We're working, we're we're working the board, 429 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: we're working the phones, we're doing everything we can. And 430 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,239 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you sit back, can 431 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: you look at your board to go, damn, we had 432 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: a good day. You know, that's momentum to me. Yeah, 433 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: I think Dave, what Brian is really alluding to is 434 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: there are certain years and I think every general manager, 435 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: every scout would tell you some years, man, you really 436 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: feel like you got it nailed in terms of your 437 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: grades and what the players are and where you are 438 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: in terms of draft position that you're saying, and we're 439 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: sitting at nineteen, here's the cluster players that are gonna 440 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: be available to us. We have grades that justify these 441 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: guys being taken at that spot. And when it falls 442 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: that where you're like, man, that's a great job of 443 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: us knowing exactly what we want and having the guys 444 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: graded appropriately. And I think when you do that and 445 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: you have those things lined up, you do walk away 446 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: feeling like, Okay, we got our guy. Now let's go 447 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: and focus on the next Here where we are, we're 448 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: thirty six. Here are the guys that are available in 449 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: thirty six. And when that board opens up and you 450 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: have two or three of your choices, that's when you 451 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: have the momentum. I think what you're alluding to in 452 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: terms of it not being there, there is something to that, 453 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: because the thing that is crippling is when you're looking 454 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: at the board, you're two picks away and there's no 455 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: one available that you really feel good about at that spot. 456 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: No one has grated guys that are at that level. 457 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: But you know that your your resigns to taking someone 458 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: because you have to take someone at that pick and 459 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: you can't necessarily trade out. Yeah. I think that's a 460 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: and that's a fair point the thing. But momentum could 461 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: also be restored by man, you could see ten picks 462 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: before they get to you. You're like, man, they're they're 463 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: taking our guys off one at a time. Here, let's 464 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: work these phones. Let's see. You know, Dallas made a 465 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: Dallas made a blow the hatch move with Travis Frederick 466 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: to go to eighteen to thirty. You know, they left 467 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: a second round pick basically on the table to get 468 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: out of there. That to me is that's a panic. 469 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: Momentum is finding a way to say, Okay, we're in 470 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: trouble here, boys, let's let's see what we could get. 471 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: If we could get a two out of this, let's go. 472 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: You know. So, I think there's there's certain levels of that, 473 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: But you know, I just feel like though when the 474 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: room feels it, when the room feels it in those 475 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: tags are coming off the right way. That's the momentum 476 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: that helps you in those three days of drafting these players. 477 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: And hopefully there will be momentum in the draft coming 478 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: up in April, because there certainly was in twenty twenty, 479 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: and I think you could potentially see that again coming 480 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: up and depending it doesn't matter where they are. It 481 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: could be top ten, it could be late teens. If 482 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: the Cowboys could find a momentum and find that rhythm 483 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: with the scatting department. We saw it last year when 484 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: they were picking at seventeen. When we come back though 485 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: here on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, it's 486 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: time for some twitter on the twenty How does this 487 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: draft class compare to last year's and is it head 488 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: and shoulders below the twenty twenty class. We'll talk about 489 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: it next when we come back. There's nothing as unique 490 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: as our eyes, which is why SLOR pioneers ways to 491 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: make lenses as unique as you. Varilux for super sharp vision, 492 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: Essential Blue for protection, and Crisolve for freedom from glare, 493 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: three cutting edge solutions in a single unique lens. 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Glad you're with us on Dallas 529 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com streaming coast to coast and around the world. 530 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: This episode five of the twenty twenty one Draft Show. 531 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk about that twenty one draft class. 532 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: Brian brought us David Hellman, We've got Bucky Brooks, I'm 533 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: Kyle Yeomans and guys say it's time now for some 534 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: Twitter on the twenty Twitter on the twittery little delay, 535 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: but we got it. There we go, Chris Beam putting 536 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: in work back there in the back. He's got a 537 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: lot of buttons to push throughout the day. Let's start 538 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: things off with Matt Johnson. And Matt Johnson comes out 539 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: and he says, who are you looking to snap's a 540 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: bad player for the Cowboys. I just say the former Cowboys. 541 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: He's a bad player. That was a bad pick. I 542 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: don't think that was a bad momentum. No momentum on 543 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: that pick. The unicorn himself. Oh, Matt Johnson, I do 544 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: not know if that was him, and if it is, 545 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: we apologize unfortunately. But were you looking to stag at 546 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: pick nine eleven if Dallas does not make the playoffs? 547 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: And who are you looking to take if it's nineteen 548 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: through twenty four if they do make the playoffs? And 549 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: how much of a gap is there between picks nine 550 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: through eleven or nineteen through twenty four? And we'll start 551 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: with Bucky on this one. You know, it's funny because 552 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: I think, just giving the issues at cornerback, I think 553 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: you have to take a cornerback if it's available, because 554 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: I think the coverage can really impact the way the 555 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys play. We just went through the list of names. 556 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: Caleb Farley is going to be in conversation. I think J. C. 557 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: Horne would be in conversation in past or ten could 558 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: potentially be a guy that we talk about a lot 559 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: of It really though, depends on what happens with the 560 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: coaching staff afterwards. If Mike Lowden is retained, then that's 561 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: a different style cornerback that we're looking at. We're looking 562 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: at someone who can play like treyvon Dix, who is 563 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: comfortable playing off, who has vision and can make breaks 564 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: and make plays and those things and so and feeling 565 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: great about the cornerback class in terms of what could 566 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: be available. Where the guy Boys pick, I am fine. 567 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: I just think as a matter of who is the 568 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator and what do they want going forward to 569 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: play that position? Dave, Yeah, I agree with Bucky completely there. Yeah, 570 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm so, I'll go for it. Yeah, I agree. 571 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: I agree with Yeah, I agree with Bucky there. You know, 572 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: and we need to if you're the Cowboys, you need 573 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: to determine does Mike Nolan stay. I think that makes 574 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: a lot of difference there. I do think like one 575 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: of the guys I really like is Asante Samuel's son. 576 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: I think he's a he's at a Florida State. The 577 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: thing about him is he's short, you know, but man, 578 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: the feat, the ability to stay with guys. You know, 579 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: Clemson went after him a little bit. He's going to compete, 580 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, but I think he's got all the skills. 581 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: He's just short. You know. Sean Wade is a guy 582 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: that you've kind of watched him in Ohio State. He 583 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: plays in the slot, he plays outside, he doesn't always start, 584 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: he's not always on the field. You know, there there's 585 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: gonna be some questions you're gonna want to take the 586 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: guy that absolutely you know, and and and Horn at 587 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: South Carolina makes a lot of sense for me. I 588 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: just think there's you know, there's there's going to be 589 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: levels of guys that you're kind of really like saying, Okay, 590 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: what can they do? What is their skill level? You know, 591 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: how will they play in our scheme? The names are 592 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: gonna be there. I'll give you an example two of 593 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: I absolutely in love with the linebacker from from Missouri. Uh, 594 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: Nick Bolton, Okay, Nick Bolton, Yeah, Nick Bolton's a he's 595 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: a He's a six foot guy, you know, but you 596 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: watch him, and he makes just as many plays. I mean, 597 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: when you watch him play, he makes just as many 598 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: plays as Micah Parsons does. It's just their physically look different. 599 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: But that's the kind of guy with you know, with 600 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: with Bolton, you know Will, if they look at a linebacker, 601 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: could he be that guy that's a shorter guy, but man, 602 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: he's super super productive. And you know, that's probably the 603 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: types of players you're looking at right there, the ones 604 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: that Bucky and I've mentioned to you. Not surprisingly, I 605 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: think it could be. I think it could be eerily 606 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: similar to the conversation that we had last year. And 607 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: it's so early to be trying to peg names specifically. 608 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: But you know, the Cowboys, obviously they got super lucky 609 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: with the CD Lamb situation if they hadn't drafted Lamb. 610 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: Now you're talking about maybe taking Trayvon Diggs, who they 611 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: got in the second round. Obviously Calvan Chason is the 612 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: other guy. Now you're talking about guys that you hope, 613 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, more so than being great college players, you're 614 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: talking about guys that you hope can grow into that 615 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: and that you know Bucky. Bucky said in the first segment, 616 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: like I'm not in love with this edge rusher class. No, 617 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: but but but you know, some edge rushers are gonna 618 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: get taken in the first round, so I know, I know, Kyle. 619 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: We have a question about the Miami edge rushers, so 620 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: we can get to that. But maybe if you're picking 621 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: at fifteen sixteen nineteen, maybe you're talking about a guy 622 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: like a Gregory Rousseau or Jalen Phillips out of Miami 623 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: or Carlos Fashim, because I mean, those are those are 624 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: the types of guys that are available when you're picking. 625 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: There are typically and not universally obviously because you've got 626 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: Ceede Lamb, but you have to at least embrace the 627 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: possibility that you're taking a guy who you're hoping can 628 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: develop into a better player than what he was in college. 629 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: I liked that a lot, and we're gonna get to 630 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: that Miami question here in a little bit. But I 631 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: wanted to go to the guy that Brian was talking 632 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: about in Asante Samuel five ten, one hundred and eighty 633 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: four pounds out of Florida State. I mean, the notes 634 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: that I had on his film was he gets his 635 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: hand on the football. I mean it seems like he 636 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: just finds a way to be in the right spot. 637 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: He's got good movement, good goes to both sides of 638 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: the formation. And then also nine PBUs in each of 639 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: the last two seasons, and that was a season this 640 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: year that he opted out of the final month of 641 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: the regular season for Florida State. So this is a 642 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: guy who, once again we kind of talk about the 643 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: traits versus the production. He's a production guy and he's 644 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: been there, whereas the traits haven't necessarily been there. But 645 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: it also kind of depends on the type of corner 646 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: that you're looking at there. Brian, Yeah, this kid, I 647 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: mean when you talk these some of these corners are 648 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,479 Speaker 1: coming in and Bucky talked about this a couple of 649 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: shows ago. There's some of these corners that were converted 650 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: wide receivers. And you know, this kid, Samuel, he from 651 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: the crib to the field. He was born to play 652 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: a cornerback, you know, and you know, his dad was 653 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: one of the most competitive guys i'd ever you know, 654 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: we talk about Antoine Winfield and what he's done, and 655 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: you know his son and all that. This kid's got 656 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: the same kind of makeup as his old man. And 657 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: I the quickness the footwork, the way he gets at 658 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: the way he plays with his eyes, the way he 659 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: doesn't let eyes get away from him. The only thing 660 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: is he's short. He is he's going to measure five 661 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: ten and I'm sorry, but you watch him play, He's 662 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: got some special traits to him. And I think that 663 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: people will ding him because of his his height. But 664 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: if you watch the tape, you'll be impressed by him, 665 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: you know. Brian, I think you bring up a couple 666 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 1: of points. One we always talk about in the scouting 667 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: industry the family business, and sometimes when we talk about bloodlines, 668 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: is this the family business? Is this what this family does? 669 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: And so when you talk about Asante Samuel Junior going 670 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: from the carib to the field and his dad being 671 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: such a prolific player in terms of the way that 672 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: he played with instincts and awareness and those things, you 673 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: wonder was he able to pass those things down? Cale 674 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: you pointed out production and how it matters, and I 675 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: think it's really important that as we continue to have 676 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: these conversations about the cornerbacks and others, that we understand 677 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: the different types of production. If we're going to continue 678 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,479 Speaker 1: to play a zone scheme where Mike Nolans pot really 679 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: an emphasis on turnovers, then we have to check the 680 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 1: background and see does this guy have a long history 681 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: of getting his hands on the ball and turning it 682 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: over because of not. It's kind of like the Brian 683 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: Jones conversation Byan Jones is a terrific man cover guy, 684 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: but you can't expect guys who always have their back 685 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: to the ball to also get a bunch of interceptions. 686 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: And so you see PBUs as opposed to interceptions. And 687 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: so as we become to narrow the focus in terms 688 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: of fit and scheme, finding the right corners who have 689 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: the production that really fits what this scheme wants to bear. 690 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: So let's let's go from corner to ad drusher because 691 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: I think that's where even in this conversation Bucky, you're 692 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 1: gonna see traits versus production. And this is a question 693 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: for Bluff City Cowboys on Twitter, and they tweeted and said, 694 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: who is the better defensive end from Miami? Greg Russo? 695 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: Who is? I guess? Throughout the season has been tapped 696 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: as a top fifteen prospect but opted out of twenty twenty, 697 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: which gave way to Jaylen Phillips, who had a fantastic 698 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty has really shown up here in this season. 699 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: He at the time, and then his question said, I 700 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: personally like Phillips a lot more. We'll start with Dave 701 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: on this one because you brought it up initially, but 702 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: then we'll go to Bucky and Brian will close this 703 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: out on this. But I like Phillips more as well 704 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: if based off of what I had seen. I know 705 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: Jeff Cavanaugh would agree with that as well. But what 706 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: do you think about these guys? I actually I spent 707 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: my morning with watching Phillips, so thank you for the 708 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: heads up that we were going to talk about him. 709 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: I mean, just from from just from what I saw, 710 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: and this shouldn't be surprising for you know, a rising 711 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: college player who's really had one season in the spotlight. 712 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of power, but I was 713 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: impressed by his speed and his footwork. You know, it 714 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 1: didn't seem like he got a lot of push if 715 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: the tackle got his hands on him, but he's got 716 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: the speed to get around him, he's got the moves 717 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: to get inside of him. I liked what I saw. 718 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: And then the big for me, which we've talked about 719 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: this a few times, already this year on the show. 720 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: I you know, Russeau hasn't played. Rousseau played last year. 721 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: He didn't. He hasn't put any stuff on tape this season. 722 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: And I'm tempted to lean toward Phillips just because he's 723 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: got games on tape that I can look at and say, 724 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: this is what this guy did in October and November. 725 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: And I mean that sounds harsh to Rousseau, I suppose, 726 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: but he doesn't have that. So that's kind of where 727 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: my head's at. Yeah, I think it's a valid point. 728 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: I will say this about Rousseau because when you dig 729 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: in Russeau's background, Russeau was a wide receiver who has 730 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: made the switch to being a defensive end. And he 731 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: talked about Manny Diaz and those guys town that laying 732 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: out of vision for how he was going to develop. 733 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: And so a season ago you saw him get double 734 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 1: digit sacks, you saw him kind of put it together 735 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: without even really knowing what he's doing. And having a 736 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: conversation with him earlier, he had talked about learning moves 737 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: and trying to figure out how to sequence that. Now, 738 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: to your point, Dave, we haven't seen it out in 739 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: real time, so we don't know how much he has improved, 740 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,919 Speaker 1: but our will say, and scouting your coaching staff, if 741 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: you have a teacher at that defensive end, that that 742 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: D line coach position, and he is able to say, Okay, 743 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: I like what he is. I like the length, I 744 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: like to speed in explosiveness, and if I can give 745 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 1: him a tool or two, he can be a high 746 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: end rusher. I would lean a little more towards Rousseau 747 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: because I believe his athleticism is going to be off 748 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: the charts when we see him at the combine. Yeah, 749 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: there's no question about this, And this is a lesson 750 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: you need to be learned. They both were number fifteen, 751 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: So be careful what tape you're trying to dig up 752 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: because you might be watching they're both one six five 753 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: and one six seven and they kind of look the 754 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: same day, so you've got to be careful about that. 755 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: But you know, I leaned towards Phillips. I do understand, 756 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: and talking to some folks down at Miami, they do 757 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: swear by Rousseau. They mean they feel like that that 758 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: he has got the best upside of the two and uh, 759 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: but I I tend just watch him and maybe it's 760 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: because of you know, seeing it this year or seeing 761 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: it you know live, you know, or not live. But 762 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, currently I just feel like that there's a 763 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: there's just a better I have a better feel for 764 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: Phillips's game, the way he's able to close, the way 765 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: he's able to get his hands on blockers, the way 766 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: he's able to control. This guy's got some foot quickness 767 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 1: to him. You know. I always saw one play where 768 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: I felt like that he was in really bad shape 769 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: and it resulted in a touchdown. But other than that, 770 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: the guy could change directions, he could get back on plays. 771 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't play like a tall guy. He 772 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: plays like a guy that's you know, is a is 773 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 1: a is a compact guy. But he's got that movement, 774 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: that quickness to him and stuff. But man, this this 775 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,320 Speaker 1: is where I struggled. These Miami guys. I struggled. These 776 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: are two, as they say the scouting word world, these 777 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: are two boom or busp project or not projects or prospects, 778 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, because you could hit big on either one 779 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: of these guys, or then it could be a whole 780 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: nother situation where you're looking at yourself and like, man, 781 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: the vision we had for those guys doesn't match how 782 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: they play in the NFL. I love the link from Rousseau. 783 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: I mean six to seven uses his wingspan really well. 784 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: The one thing about Jalen Phillips, there's a couple of 785 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: things on him. Actually, One, he struggled with some ankle 786 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: and wrist injuries in the past that forced him to 787 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: miss over half of his potential games. Also, not to mention, 788 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: he almost retired from football with these injury issues before 789 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: he transferred from UCLA. He ended up going from UCLA 790 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: to Miami couldn't play in twenty nineteen because of the eligibility. 791 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: That's when Rousseau shine and then when Phillips came in 792 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: and Rousseau opted out, it allowed Phillips to shine. So 793 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: there's that back and forth. Really kind of a cool story. 794 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: Whenever you talk about the comeback from Phillips, the the 795 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 1: potential from Gregory Rousseau. I think this is gonna be 796 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 1: a back and forth conversation we're gonna have really until 797 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: Draft A honestly, and maybe even after depending on where 798 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: these two guys go. But this is something that I 799 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: was kind of on early on and wanted to get 800 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: you guys involved with in talking about because this is 801 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: something that I struggled with too, Brian, I don't know 802 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: which one I like more, and I think it changes 803 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: every couple of days. But we're gonna have to step aside. 804 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: We're going a little bit long here. When we come back, 805 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the early makeup of this class and 806 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: kind of some more about the trait versus potential aspect 807 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,280 Speaker 1: of some of the top prospects in the twenty twenty 808 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: one draft class. When we return here on the Dallas 809 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, We're back in a tasty 810 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: treat that's sweeping airwaves and taste buds. It's new Doctor 811 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 1: Pepper and cream Soda. Let's take a listen, Doctor cream Soda. 812 00:41:53,280 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: Is he a newcombone that's music to my ears? 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These guys 849 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: could potentially be on as soon as Tuesday, depending on 850 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys playoff abilities coming up this weekend, So lots 851 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,959 Speaker 1: of TBD with the draft show. But before we close 852 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: things out, Christian asked, compare this upcoming draft class to 853 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: last year's class. How do they stack up against each other? 854 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: And it seems like more of a strong offensive class 855 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: than a defensive class. Brian, what do you think about that? 856 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 1: You know, he's absolutely right the question. I mean, every 857 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 1: of the top fifty guys that I've watched so far, 858 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: it's a very offensive heavy draft. These quarterbacks will are 859 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: going to anchor this thing, and then you got to 860 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: figure out these offensive tackles. These receivers. I think that 861 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna couple of running backs in there. 862 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: We're talking about questions at defensive end. We're talking about 863 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: questions and defensive tackle. There's some questions. It's a little 864 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: bit at safety corner. I mean, it's clearly an offensive 865 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 1: draft at least early until you figure out these other 866 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: defensive guys. Yeah, Bryan hit a nail on the head, 867 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 1: like it's very offensive heavy, and I think what we've 868 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 1: seen is we're just seeing the trickle up all these 869 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: guys in high school playing offense and kind of going 870 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: up in the defensive guys are kind of the leftovers 871 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: of the cast offs, and so with this draft class, 872 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 1: I think we're strong at cornerback, but really that's really 873 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: the strongest position because the questions at pass rusher are plenty. 874 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: You don't have a dominant defensive talker assists at the 875 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: top of the boards. Linebackers are just kind of men, 876 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: and so I think you kind of have to load 877 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 1: upon your offensive guys and then you have to have 878 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,759 Speaker 1: a very clear vision for what you want defensively to 879 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: find the guys that fit that and are drafted at 880 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: the right place, so your expectations aren't out of line 881 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: with what their ability is. If you it's actually kind 882 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: of funny, like if you just look at the positional breakdown, 883 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: I feel like the strength at least at the top 884 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: of this draft look kind of similar to last year. 885 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 1: Like you're talking about maybe four quarterbacks that go in 886 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: the first round, maybe a fifth, but like four that 887 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: you feel pretty confident about, a lot of pass catchers 888 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: that you're excited about, whether it's Chase Smith, will throw 889 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts in there because he's basically a receiver anyway. 890 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 1: And then you know, if there's a defensive strength in 891 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: this draft, you know, last year they had Chase Young, 892 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: which that's a huge difference, but other than that, you 893 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 1: would probably say cornerback is the strength defensively, and then 894 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: you got a whole bunch of offensive tackles that you 895 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: feel really good about. I think the talent level last 896 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: year looks more impressive to me right now, But I 897 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: think a big part of that is also we haven't 898 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: gotten to see some of the absolute best players from 899 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: this class play. I mean, how much different would we 900 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: feel about this class if Gregory Rousseau had played a 901 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,720 Speaker 1: whole season, or you know, if Jamar Chase had played, 902 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: or you know, any number of these really talented guys 903 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: that opted to sit out. I think we'd probably be 904 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more excited if we had ten eleven 905 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: games of Caleb Farley tape. So I'm not ready to 906 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: say that it's drastically worse than last year, but I 907 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: do think it's funny that, you know, the strengths are 908 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: kind of similar when you just look at it in 909 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: terms of position. That perception is everything, and right now, 910 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 1: the perception is off of twenty nineteen tape for a 911 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: lot of these top prospects in twenty twenty, it's still 912 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: kind of up in the air. That's a really good point, Dave, 913 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,919 Speaker 1: and I think that's something we might have to bring 914 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 1: back up in a different edition of the show. But 915 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,720 Speaker 1: that is going to do it for us today here 916 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Thanks to 917 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 1: everybody tuning in, whether you're listening live or you're listening 918 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: on the podcast, Dad, be sure to join these guys 919 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 1: either next Tuesday or two tuesdays from now. It'll be 920 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: interesting to see depending on the Cowboys making the playoffs, 921 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: because if the Cowboys do not make the playoffs or 922 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: they are eliminated. Will have two draft shows starting next week. 923 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: This group will be on Tuesdays, then Kate, Jeff Cavanaugh 924 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 1: and Dave Brugler will be on Thursday. Lots of fun 925 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: still to be had as there's one hundred and twenty 926 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 1: days till the NFL Draft. But for Chris Beam, for 927 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: Brian broad Us for Bucky Brooks, and David Hellman up 928 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 1: Kyle Yomen saying so long, thanks for listening to the 929 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. This has been a 930 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 1: production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys 931 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: Football Club