Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, very excited today. I liked your build. That
Speaker 1: made me feel like really on my way somewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little crescendo, some orchestration, so yeah, try and make this,
Speaker 1: you know. I was like, wait, what's that distant sound? Wow,
Speaker 1: the party's here. That's me. That's what people always say
Speaker 1: when I show up the parties here. What's so funny?
Speaker 1: I don't know, because that's so true. I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: welcome back to the show, everybody. Yeah, thanks for tuning
Speaker 1: in my own Sorry, wow, that's all a different show.
Speaker 1: What do we did like that? Though? You know, I
Speaker 1: think we'd have a different, different response, I think so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks everyone turning reblcables all Miles. I can't tell him.
Speaker 1: Is this like a drunk elvis or? I don't know either,
Speaker 1: but I feel like exploring this. It's an original character.
Speaker 1: It's nobody. Yeah, yeah, fascinating. Is out of my character study? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: send your feedback. We'd love to hear it. What's the
Speaker 1: backstory of this guy? Oh, we're so excited to have
Speaker 1: you here for today's episode. And I promise that I
Speaker 1: didn't just sit down to the recording booth today as
Speaker 1: an excuse to talk about everything everywhere, all at once.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, can we just change this
Speaker 1: whole podcast. It's the only thing I want to talk about.
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen this movie, if you haven't heard
Speaker 1: of this movie, whatever, don't watch any trailers, don't read
Speaker 1: anything about it. Just go go see it right now.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. It is the coolest movie I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Pretty sure that's true statement. I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: a cooler movie, and there's a lot of cool movies.
Speaker 1: I've seen a cool movie, but this one was truly original,
Speaker 1: so innovative and awesome and funny and weird. I really,
Speaker 1: really yeah. I just don't even want to talk about
Speaker 1: it that much. You just got to see it. It's
Speaker 1: just unlike anything else. I'm sitting here in the middle
Speaker 1: of the movie and I never do this. I mean,
Speaker 1: you asked me what my favorite movie is, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I hate that question. It's hard to answer, like what context,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But I'm sitting here in the middle
Speaker 1: of this movie thinking to myself, is this my favorite movie?
Speaker 1: Like it's wild and I'm still not you know, gonna
Speaker 1: set that in stone yet or anything. But man, just
Speaker 1: go see it. That's all. That's all there is to say,
Speaker 1: everything everywhere, all at once. Starring Michelle Yo. It's incredibly
Speaker 1: exciting film. It's like watching Spider Verse sort of Spider
Speaker 1: Verse kind of did that, and it was just so
Speaker 1: original and interesting and doing so many different things. And
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, there's a lot of cool ideas
Speaker 1: in this movie. Anyway. Yeah, we could talk about that
Speaker 1: film all day, Yes, but we won't talk. Call us
Speaker 1: after you've seen it and we'll we'll talk handlessly. Um,
Speaker 1: but we're here for a totally different story today. This
Speaker 1: one came up kind of out of nowhere because we
Speaker 1: were going into research a totally different story, found this
Speaker 1: little intro to it and I was like, this is
Speaker 1: this is an episode that I can't summarize this story
Speaker 1: in uh in act one of of of the an
Speaker 1: Bonnie story. We have to we just have to tell
Speaker 1: this story on its own. So this is the story
Speaker 1: of William Cormick, his wife, and their maid Mary Brennan.
Speaker 1: Now two of these people are the parents of the
Speaker 1: notorious pirate and Bonnie, a woman who sailed to the
Speaker 1: Caribbean with as much, if not more swashbuckling fury than
Speaker 1: any of her contemporaries. She's an awesome pirate. We're gonna
Speaker 1: learn all about her later, but so excited to her,
Speaker 1: very excited. But we just had to talk about how
Speaker 1: and came into this world. And this story in and
Speaker 1: of itself just had us wide eyed, jaws dropped face
Speaker 1: palms like this could leave the nonsense going on formanent
Speaker 1: palm on my face. So I say, let's jump in
Speaker 1: and hear the story of and Bonnie's parents. Let's do this,
Speaker 1: Hayley French, come listen. Well, Eli and Diana got some
Speaker 1: stories to tell. There's no match making, a romantic tips.
Speaker 1: It's just about pridiculous relationships, a lover. It might be
Speaker 1: any type of person at all. And abstract concept are
Speaker 1: a concrete wall. But if there's a story where the
Speaker 1: second glance ridiculous roles a production, if I heart radio? Okay.
Speaker 1: So most of this story comes from a novel which
Speaker 1: is titled A General History of the Robberies and Murders
Speaker 1: of the most Notorious Pirates from their rise and settlement
Speaker 1: in the Island of Providence to the present time. With
Speaker 1: the remarkable actions and adventures of the two female pirates,
Speaker 1: Mary Reid and and Bonnie, contained in the following chapters,
Speaker 1: to which is added a short abstract of the Statute
Speaker 1: and Civil Law in relation to Piracy by Captain Charles Johnson.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love the general history of the
Speaker 1: robberies and murders are the most notorious pirates when they
Speaker 1: rise in settlement in the island of the Providence to
Speaker 1: the present time, with the remarkable actions and adventures of
Speaker 1: the two female pirates Mary read and an Bonnie contained
Speaker 1: in the following chapters, to which is added a short
Speaker 1: abstract with the Statute in Civil law Law in relation
Speaker 1: to piracy. That is a great one. That is a
Speaker 1: joke you've got to commit to. And I respect that
Speaker 1: you went through the whole thing a second time. And uh,
Speaker 1: we just lost half our audience, but you know what
Speaker 1: that the other half also really admired that committed to
Speaker 1: the bit. So this book was written by Captain Charles Johnson,
Speaker 1: but some historians claim that Captain Johnson is actually a
Speaker 1: pen name for Daniel Dafoe, who was the author of
Speaker 1: Robinson Crusoe. Others totally dispute that, saying that it was
Speaker 1: this publisher named Nathaniel missed um. I don't know about you,
Speaker 1: but to me, Captain Johnson, Uh sounds more like a
Speaker 1: porn actor's name, right, who started something like? Like? Asked?
Speaker 1: Pirates of the car Lesbian Oh, a tale of plundered
Speaker 1: booty and rum guzzling semen, rum guzzling. You know, pirate porn?
Speaker 1: This is interesting you. What would your pirate born be called?
Speaker 1: M M? I guess, uh, pervy with scurvy, pervy with scurvy.
Speaker 1: I don't know hervy with scurvy. If you're going to
Speaker 1: do a legit pirate born, you gotta have some toothless
Speaker 1: action in there. Don't you think the authenticity is really
Speaker 1: what I came to this porn I'm looking for in
Speaker 1: my pornography. I wanted to feel real well. At any rate,
Speaker 1: nobody really knows who this Captain Charles Johnson was, but
Speaker 1: the way he writes all of his knowledge about sailor's
Speaker 1: speech and sailor's life and all the culture out on
Speaker 1: sea and everything, it's believed that he was either an
Speaker 1: actual sea captain or at least a professional writer who
Speaker 1: studied life at sea extensively. And this book is considered
Speaker 1: the prime source for a lot of biographies of well
Speaker 1: known pirates. It's got black Bart, Roberts, Captain Kidd, of
Speaker 1: course Mary read And and and Bonnie, as well as Calico
Speaker 1: Jack and of course everyone's new best pirate friends Captain
Speaker 1: Edward Blackbeard, Teach and Steed Bonnet the Gentleman Pirates stad
Speaker 1: all right, which yeah, okay, I know we have to
Speaker 1: throw I'm not sure we've talked about this. We have
Speaker 1: devoured Our Flag means Death and freaking I mean just
Speaker 1: love it. I fell in love with every single character.
Speaker 1: It's so good. If you haven't checked it out yet,
Speaker 1: it's on HBO. And I know sometimes we were just
Speaker 1: like we love to sidebar about what shows you want
Speaker 1: to and it's so annoying when you say, like you
Speaker 1: gotta watch this TV show because we all have fifty
Speaker 1: thousand shows on our list. But it's loose, very loosely
Speaker 1: based on these real characters black Beard and Steve Bonnet
Speaker 1: um and it's just a very funny, touching, wonderful show.
Speaker 1: You've got to watch it. Hashtag renew Our Flag means
Speaker 1: stuff real. So this book came out in seventeen in London.
Speaker 1: By seventy six it was so popular that four editions
Speaker 1: had come out, each with additional information in chapters, and
Speaker 1: there is no doubt whatsoever that the author definitely embellished
Speaker 1: a lot of things. You know, he's trying to sell,
Speaker 1: sell the book. So the British public was thirsty for exotic,
Speaker 1: adventurous stories, and Captain Johnson gave it to them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people want like, I mean kind of like, I don't
Speaker 1: know when was the pirate craze contemporary? It was, and
Speaker 1: it's still going on a little, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to stay like around them. Did the movies right, the
Speaker 1: Black Flag and it was about two thousands, Yeah, those
Speaker 1: were it was hot. Pirate culture. It comes in waves,
Speaker 1: and this was a wave. People were super into pirate
Speaker 1: ship then. And yeah, I guess he had a bit
Speaker 1: of a creative imagination. This is where kind of the
Speaker 1: stereotypes and tropes of pirates originated. The missing eyes and legs,
Speaker 1: the buried treasure, colorful clothing like all that stuff. Although
Speaker 1: I will say with the colorful clothing, we learned when
Speaker 1: we did Robert Culifford and John Swan that they did,
Speaker 1: in fact steal plenty of fabric and well known that
Speaker 1: they would often stitch together wild outfits and look insane
Speaker 1: to everyone else, and it was like part of the
Speaker 1: way to stand out. Yeah, because at the time, I
Speaker 1: remember we talked about that episode like your class was
Speaker 1: very tied to how you dressed, and if you were poor,
Speaker 1: you were meant to wear drab, dull clothes. And the
Speaker 1: pirates were like, screw that, We're going to address like
Speaker 1: crazy colors and patterns and like whatever we happened to
Speaker 1: steal exactly. It was like a real sign of success
Speaker 1: for a pirate. I'd argue based on what I read
Speaker 1: that Johnny Depp even toned it down a little bit
Speaker 1: definitely for Captain Jack Sparrow, because I think I think
Speaker 1: they were even more gaudy than that generally. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: striped patterns, I mean, because the fashion of the rich
Speaker 1: was so wild to time, Like what you were sealing
Speaker 1: was insane, and they were just cobbling together like a
Speaker 1: bunch of I war a pounds tooth coat over a
Speaker 1: polka dot shirt and so yeah, writers like Robert Louis
Speaker 1: Stevenson and Jay and Barry have said that this book
Speaker 1: was a pretty major influence on their pirate characters. So
Speaker 1: the stereotypes just kept on rolling. Over the ages. But
Speaker 1: a lot of his work is based on journals, interviews,
Speaker 1: and court records. So there's a lot of truth mixed
Speaker 1: into this book for sure, despite it being considered pretty embellius,
Speaker 1: right right, right, Yeah, the bones, the bones are there,
Speaker 1: and maybe he fancied it up a little bit, like
Speaker 1: you said, to sell copies, right. And of course some
Speaker 1: of these details just can't be proven with any other
Speaker 1: surviving documentation, and that includes the story of a Bonnie's
Speaker 1: parents that we're about to tell here, So do take
Speaker 1: it with a grain of sea salt. But um, but
Speaker 1: it is told in pretty impressive detail here in Johnson's book,
Speaker 1: and almost every other article that I found about a
Speaker 1: Bonnie summarizes it in like two sentences. It's like, this
Speaker 1: was her dad, and they moved to South Carolina and
Speaker 1: then she became a pirate. And I'm like, y'all skipped
Speaker 1: over an incredible story, So it needs to be told.
Speaker 1: You know, we we don't generally think of pirates parents,
Speaker 1: but everybody's got him, right, So let's learn about an
Speaker 1: Bonnie's So, according to Johnson, and Bonnie's father was named
Speaker 1: William Cormick, and he was a pretty well to do
Speaker 1: lawyer in late sixteen hundreds in a town near the
Speaker 1: city of Cork, Ireland, or Corky as I've heard it
Speaker 1: pronounced in pronunciation videos. So his wife goes unnamed in
Speaker 1: the book. So Mrs Cormick, I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like we should throw her name just so
Speaker 1: we can keep track of her a little better instead
Speaker 1: of just being like Mrs Cormick the whole time. So
Speaker 1: what's what's Mrs Cormick's name? Ship? Not it can't be
Speaker 1: Merry or we already have those characters coming up. How
Speaker 1: about Molly Molly? That seems like a common Irish name, Molly.
Speaker 1: Since it's definitely a made up name, maybe it should
Speaker 1: be like totally like Nicki Minaje cormick ers like Cormick,
Speaker 1: not that, but you know what I mean? Yeah, how
Speaker 1: about like Apple Apple Apple Cormick. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: Gwynedd's kids going to grow up sometime and she's going
Speaker 1: to have to be Mrs Apple somebody. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: All right, So William and his wife, whose name for
Speaker 1: the purposes of our telling you the story is Apple? Um.
Speaker 1: I guess at some point around the turn of the century,
Speaker 1: like maybe or so Apple Cormick got really sick and
Speaker 1: nobody could figure out exactly what was wrong with her.
Speaker 1: So her doctor advised that she moves somewhere else for
Speaker 1: quote a change of air. And Johnson says that, quote
Speaker 1: the place she chose was a few miles distant from
Speaker 1: her dwelling where the husband's mother lived. So she's going
Speaker 1: to stay with her mother in law to recover, right,
Speaker 1: But like it's only a few miles away. How is
Speaker 1: the air any different there? Right? Is it just more trees? Maybe?
Speaker 1: Maybe the doctor was like, I think you just need
Speaker 1: to get away from your husband for a few weeks.
Speaker 1: You'll feel a lot better. Honey, he's a real stress
Speaker 1: in your life. You need to need tout. She's close
Speaker 1: with her in laws at least that's nice. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: Williams stayed back at home to continue his work, and
Speaker 1: of course they had a serving maid named Mary Brennan,
Speaker 1: who Apple had asked to stay back and watched the
Speaker 1: house and attend her husband, you know, because she wouldn't
Speaker 1: be there to do it. So somebody's going to make
Speaker 1: this guy sandwich and stuff. So Johnson describes her as quote,
Speaker 1: the man cannot care for himself at fast, straight up
Speaker 1: like bread ingredients. I don't know what am I supposed
Speaker 1: to do. Johnson describes Mary Brennan as quote a handsome
Speaker 1: young woman who was being courted by a man in
Speaker 1: town who was the local tanner. The tanner whenever the
Speaker 1: family was out of the house, he would lay down
Speaker 1: his hides and sneak on over to hang out with
Speaker 1: Mary Brennan. They had just had a little secret thing
Speaker 1: going on, you know, young love amongst the serving class
Speaker 1: happens all the time. And this kid shows up and
Speaker 1: I don't know, uh speculation station here, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: they just they just did it in every room with
Speaker 1: the house, right. I mean, these are two again to
Speaker 1: serving class people living it up in some rich dude's house.
Speaker 1: When he's away, they're going to come in. They'll probably
Speaker 1: like role play, like pretend to be Mr and Mrs
Speaker 1: Cormick like, but like they'll gender swap it. Like she'll
Speaker 1: she'll she'll get William's pipe, you know, and he'll come
Speaker 1: in in a silk gown and be like, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm fainting, it's all I'm so wealthy. I just don't
Speaker 1: know what to do. Don't worry, honey, You'll catch you.
Speaker 1: Let me the man you're so strong, come over here
Speaker 1: and leave you over my knee, Medaari, air's in the air.
Speaker 1: I wonder what I'll do with that? Is this what
Speaker 1: rich people do all day? We wonder? I love doubt, Nabby,
Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to picture anything like that happening.
Speaker 1: It would not well. One day. Johnson writes that the
Speaker 1: Tanner quote not having the fear of God before his eyes,
Speaker 1: waited until Mary wasn't looking, and he swiped three silver spoons,
Speaker 1: slipped them into his pocket. He and Mary finished their date,
Speaker 1: and before William came home from work, the Tanner slipped
Speaker 1: away until their next rendezvous. Well, here's the thing about maids.
Speaker 1: Back then, you know, they're in charge of the house,
Speaker 1: so they pretty much know every nook and cranny of
Speaker 1: the house. Yes, you know every trinket, they know every corner.
Speaker 1: I mean, they know the books, she's dust and everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she polishes those spoons like three times a week. Ship.
Speaker 1: And also it's not like I mean, we've got a
Speaker 1: drawer full of random utensils we've picked up over the years,
Speaker 1: and nine forks could go missing and i'd be like,
Speaker 1: we still have thirty six works. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: they had like a set right, there was like an
Speaker 1: equal number of each utensil and it's silver, and it's silver,
Speaker 1: it's worth something. That's why I got stolen to count
Speaker 1: that ship. So she was counting it and yeah, like
Speaker 1: the very next day, her spiky sense went off and
Speaker 1: she's like, hang on, now, I gotta check this. She
Speaker 1: like sat up bolt up right in a cold sweat,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I gotta check the spoon. And she
Speaker 1: went and counted him and she's like, oh, ship, there's
Speaker 1: three spoons missing. So she starts doing a little detective work. Okay,
Speaker 1: she really applied her whole brain to this problem and
Speaker 1: put together all her suspects, a very long list of
Speaker 1: exactly one dude, the Tanner, because he's literally the only
Speaker 1: other person who would come into the house. So she's like,
Speaker 1: it's definitely Hippen obviously, can't be anyone else. So Tanny
Speaker 1: boy here shows up the next day and she corners
Speaker 1: him because Mary liked her job, right, and also when
Speaker 1: a maid was suspected of having stolen something like, there's
Speaker 1: real jail time there. It's not cute and then you
Speaker 1: probably never get a job again if I have down't
Speaker 1: Nabby taught me anything. Yeah, it's a stain you cannot
Speaker 1: scrub out. So she corners him. She's like, why did
Speaker 1: you steal the spoons? Give me the spoons, and the Tanner,
Speaker 1: being a complete idiot, denies it. Again he's the only
Speaker 1: other person who's been in the house. So Mary gets piste.
Speaker 1: She's like, there's literally no one else who could have
Speaker 1: taken them. If you don't fess up, I'm going to
Speaker 1: call the constable. They're gonna come down here, drag you
Speaker 1: before the justice of the peace if we have to.
Speaker 1: And Johnson writes, quote these menaces frightened him out of
Speaker 1: his wits well, knowing that he could not stand a search.
Speaker 1: So the Tanner says, he's thinking on his feet, is
Speaker 1: going real quick. He says, whoa wa wait wait wait,
Speaker 1: let me help you look for them. And it all right,
Speaker 1: we'll just search around the house. They've got to be
Speaker 1: here somewhere. So Mary rolls her eyes at this kid
Speaker 1: in his terrible accent, and she starts digging around for
Speaker 1: the spoons. Fine, we'll take a look. I'll look here.
Speaker 1: You look there, the tanner says, here, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: check in your bedroom while you look around the kitchen, okay,
Speaker 1: and he slips into the bedroom. This this tanner thinks
Speaker 1: he's like Moriarty over here, coming up with some ingenious,
Speaker 1: some really mastermind plan to get himself out of trouble.
Speaker 1: And he decides, I know what, why does he sound
Speaker 1: like that? Oh yeah, he's definitely not cockney. We'll decide
Speaker 1: what you made him sound like? A lepricn He decides,
Speaker 1: I'll hide the spoons in her bid. Then she'll find
Speaker 1: them tonight and tomorrow I'll tell her I did it
Speaker 1: as a fun prank to freak her out. Girls love
Speaker 1: that shake. Yeah, girls love being pranked to the point
Speaker 1: where they're freaking out about losing there. There could be
Speaker 1: a felony conviction here. Hilarious. That's how I get all
Speaker 1: my girls. So that's what he does. He tucks the
Speaker 1: spoons under her sheets. He slips out the back door. Well, Mary,
Speaker 1: unlike her boyfriend, has like working Cerebrum and Sarah Bellum,
Speaker 1: you know, all working together up in there, and she
Speaker 1: notices that he left out of nowhere. While in the
Speaker 1: middle of their search for spoons that she knows, damn
Speaker 1: well he's got. So she very logically assumes that he
Speaker 1: has run off with the spoons. So she goes straight
Speaker 1: to the constable and tells them everything, and they're like, right,
Speaker 1: we'll take care of it. And the Tanner hears that
Speaker 1: the cops are after him, so he goes into hiding
Speaker 1: for a few days. But he's also like baffled by this.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's like, I know, she must have found
Speaker 1: the spoons and then decided to turn them against me,
Speaker 1: just to be mean, how rude, and like he never
Speaker 1: thought like that maybe she never found the spoons and
Speaker 1: that that was why this. She still thought, what would
Speaker 1: be the point of sending him after something he didn't have. Well,
Speaker 1: he's thinking that he put the spoons in her bed.
Speaker 1: There's no way she could not. It's been a few days.
Speaker 1: There's no way she wouldn't have found the spoons by now.
Speaker 1: She must have found them, and now she's just like
Speaker 1: trying to get back at me or something. I don't
Speaker 1: really know. He's just nervous because he's like, this, should
Speaker 1: she should have found the spoons? And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: never mind, I guess I didn't. I guess I just
Speaker 1: misplaced them in my bed, in my own bed. At
Speaker 1: at any rate, during all this running around, he's hiding
Speaker 1: from the cops. She's she's still doesn't know where the
Speaker 1: spoons are. Mrs Cormick Apple has made quite a remarkable recovery,
Speaker 1: and she decided it's time for me to return home.
Speaker 1: So she and the mother in law hopped into a
Speaker 1: carriage and returned back home to their village, excited to
Speaker 1: greet her husband there may aid and presumably play with
Speaker 1: her three favorite spoons. She's like, can't wait to count
Speaker 1: my sober and we will find out exactly what happened next.
Speaker 1: Right after this welcome back to the show, what so Sexy?
Speaker 1: Trying not to be too weird. I guess I made
Speaker 1: it weird. Oh it's super weird. I loved it. Okay.
Speaker 1: So Mrs Cormick Apple Cormick as we've named her, is
Speaker 1: back at home and she brought her mother in law
Speaker 1: with her, and the first thing that she hears when
Speaker 1: she walks in the door is the maid runs up
Speaker 1: to her and it's like, oh my god, I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry about there's three spoons missing. And I know it
Speaker 1: was this kid who took them when I confronted him,
Speaker 1: but he ran off, but don't worry. The constables they're
Speaker 1: looking for him. And Mrs Cormick is like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: slow down. I just got home, like recovering from an illness.
Speaker 1: But you know, you did the right thing, because if
Speaker 1: there's one thing rich people hate, it's when their spoons
Speaker 1: go missing. Nothing riles me up like that. Well, the
Speaker 1: Tanner heard that Mrs Applecormick was home, and he thought, well,
Speaker 1: this is my chance to clear this whole thing up.
Speaker 1: This is just a big misunderstanding because he's also he's
Speaker 1: in hiding, like he can't even go operate his business
Speaker 1: until this is cleared up. At this point, this is
Speaker 1: like a big incident of three spoons. So yeah, he
Speaker 1: shows up the house and he tells Mrs c the
Speaker 1: whole story, or at least his version of it, and
Speaker 1: he told her, you know, I took the spoons as
Speaker 1: a joke, trying to freak out the hilarious and he
Speaker 1: hid them in her bed, and he just couldn't believe
Speaker 1: that she hadn't found them yet because it had been days,
Speaker 1: you know, like you were saying, anyone who got into
Speaker 1: that bed would have felt the spoons under them, you know,
Speaker 1: so they were unmissable. Right, It's not like a princess
Speaker 1: in the peace situation. This is like three silver spoons
Speaker 1: under your sheet, not comfortable lay upon. So he will say,
Speaker 1: I have slept on some random objects you know, never
Speaker 1: never noticed. It depends out tired. You are exactly made
Speaker 1: pretty tired. I wonder if she was ever like, oh,
Speaker 1: I slept once on an encyclopedia for ten months, I
Speaker 1: never knew it, slept on a pile of legos. So
Speaker 1: Mrs C. I thought this story sounded bonkers, which it does.
Speaker 1: She's like, what a mess. So she's like, I'll go
Speaker 1: check the maid's bed and just to see if you
Speaker 1: know what you're saying is true. And sure enough, there's
Speaker 1: three spoons in the maids bed, still sitting there, and
Speaker 1: she tells the kid, Okay, no harm done, just go home,
Speaker 1: mind your business, get out of my house, and he
Speaker 1: finishes shooting himself with relief, and he scurries back to
Speaker 1: his shop in the village to resume his tanning life.
Speaker 1: Now Mrs C is trying to put this whole thing together.
Speaker 1: She's like, okay, so how did Mary not know that
Speaker 1: these spoons were in her pit. I mean, has she
Speaker 1: not been sleeping there? She would never steal from us.
Speaker 1: She's always been a good mate. She's always been cordial
Speaker 1: with me, and she's very friendly with my husband, and
Speaker 1: he's always been exceptionally kind to her. And oh, suddenly
Speaker 1: she starts having these flashbags to just how friendly William
Speaker 1: always was with Mary. And she starts thinking, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I just got home after being away sick for four months,
Speaker 1: and William happened to arrange to be out of town today. Okay,
Speaker 1: And again, it didn't take a Sherlock Holmes here to
Speaker 1: figure out why Mary hadn't found the spoons in her bed,
Speaker 1: because she hadn't been sleeping in her bed. Mrs C
Speaker 1: doing the real sleuth in here, right, Yeah, she's definitely
Speaker 1: putting two into like what other bed could she possibly spoon?
Speaker 1: It's actually not a very complicated board. It's like it's
Speaker 1: our bed and it's your bed. That's it. There's no
Speaker 1: other beds. Johnson writes that quote as women seldom forgive
Speaker 1: injuries of this kind. She thought of discharging her revenge
Speaker 1: upon the maid women. You know, women be crazy. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not totally wrong. I always hated the song The
Speaker 1: Boy is Mine because I only ever heard it on
Speaker 1: the radio, and I was always like, why are Monica
Speaker 1: and Brandy fighting each other? They should be fighting with
Speaker 1: the man who has been lying to them both clearly.
Speaker 1: And then I saw the video and in the video
Speaker 1: at the very end they can they confront him together.
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, well, now I like the song better.
Speaker 1: The director of the video fixed it. The director the
Speaker 1: video fixed it. I was like, I wish it was
Speaker 1: a little line, you know where they like black mcnock,
Speaker 1: you know, or something. He's like huhh right. So anyway,
Speaker 1: she's pissed and she starts hatching a plan to screw
Speaker 1: Mary and catch her husband in the act. And first
Speaker 1: she puts the spoons right back where she found them
Speaker 1: in Mary's bed, and she goes to the maid and says, hey,
Speaker 1: my mother in law is going to be sleeping in
Speaker 1: my bed tonight, so I'm going to sleep in yours,
Speaker 1: So if do we favor, go change the sheets and
Speaker 1: then find somewhere else to sleep. I know you're good
Speaker 1: at that. Oh no, you're good on that. And she's
Speaker 1: like huh, She's like nothing, nothing, You're so good at everything.
Speaker 1: That's what I said, Oh, thank you, and Mary obeyed.
Speaker 1: She went and stripped the sheets off her bed and
Speaker 1: what should clattered to the floor but the three silver spoons.
Speaker 1: And she's like, these spoons are haunting my days. She's
Speaker 1: totally confused why these spoons in her bed, but she
Speaker 1: knows it doesn't look good because she's been talking about
Speaker 1: the Stanner. So she decides to slip them into her
Speaker 1: trunk so that she can later place them somewhere conspicuous
Speaker 1: in the house and then conveniently happened upon them and
Speaker 1: be the hero of the hour. Well, what do you know?
Speaker 1: Here they are? How do they find their way into
Speaker 1: the library? So, just as planned, the mother in law
Speaker 1: takes the master bedroom and Mrs c goes down to
Speaker 1: sleep in Mary's bed. She lay there late just jealousy,
Speaker 1: keeping her wide awake the whole time. She wasn't quite
Speaker 1: sure what was going to come with this little scheme,
Speaker 1: but she knew something was up, and sure enough, late
Speaker 1: that night, William came home snuck into the house and
Speaker 1: he goes up to the master bedroom and he looks
Speaker 1: inside and he sees a woman sleeping in the bed,
Speaker 1: and he thinks my wife is home. Well, what's one
Speaker 1: more night with Mary, Hell's wife. He's asleep, so let
Speaker 1: me just go down to the servants quarter. Is real
Speaker 1: quick and had myself one last little fling. So he
Speaker 1: goes down to Mary's bedroom and he creaked open the
Speaker 1: door and he saw a woman in the bed. Of
Speaker 1: course he thinks, well, Mary's in there, sleeping, wife's upstairs,
Speaker 1: the perfect crime. Everything's coming up, William. So but of
Speaker 1: course Mrs C is lying awake in that bed in
Speaker 1: the dark, and at first she was scared that when
Speaker 1: the door opened it was thieves. But then right where
Speaker 1: the thief would go to the servant where all the
Speaker 1: riches are. But then William whispered, Mary, are you awake?
Speaker 1: And Mrs C immediately knew that voice that was her husband,
Speaker 1: that rat bastard. So it's time for everybody's favorite game show,
Speaker 1: What this lady do? Okay, Diana, your today is contestant
Speaker 1: on what did this lady do? So this woman is
Speaker 1: faking sleep in the bed of the woman that she
Speaker 1: thinks is sleeping with her husband. She's had this whole
Speaker 1: plan to catch him in the act, and now it's
Speaker 1: all coming to fruition. As the husband is in the
Speaker 1: room and he's called out the maid's name. So what
Speaker 1: did this lady do? Did she a leap from the bed,
Speaker 1: call him out on coming into the servants quarters in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night instead of his own bedroom,
Speaker 1: and accuse him of infidelity, be disguise her voice as
Speaker 1: the maids invite him into bed, and then reached down
Speaker 1: his pants and squeeze the life out of his balls
Speaker 1: as she revealed herself to him. I'm pretty compelling, or see,
Speaker 1: continue to pretend to be asleep, let him get into
Speaker 1: the bed and have sex with her in the dark,
Speaker 1: thinking the whole time that she was in fact Mary
Speaker 1: the maid, and never give herself away. What did this
Speaker 1: lady do? Oh? My god? How well? I know what
Speaker 1: I would do is probably be I guess, um, let's see.
Speaker 1: But I feel like, what's really going to get her
Speaker 1: where she? I mean, C is insane. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: not gonna solve any of her problems. So I feel
Speaker 1: like she probably I think I'm gonna go with a. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, But of course it was c most
Speaker 1: ridiculous choice you can imagine. Yeah, Unfortunately C is the
Speaker 1: correct answer. Johnson writes that quote, the husband came to
Speaker 1: bed and that night played the vigorous lover. That Shakespearean
Speaker 1: played the vigorous lover. Sorry, honey, I'm just playing the
Speaker 1: vigorous lover. Don't mind me, mind me. And the wife
Speaker 1: just lays there knowing this isn't even meant for her.
Speaker 1: All this vigorous lovemaking end quote was very passive and
Speaker 1: bore it like a Christian, you know, like a good
Speaker 1: Christian woman. She just shot up and took it. That's terrible. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's really something coming from Captain Johnson, star of Asked Pirates.
Speaker 1: That is insane. I love that She's like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to catch him in the act. And then when she
Speaker 1: was literally in the act with him, she's like, I
Speaker 1: guess I'll just lay here and not get any of
Speaker 1: my goals anyway. So before the sun came up, she
Speaker 1: snuck out of the bed and did the one thing
Speaker 1: that she knew would punish this man more than anything
Speaker 1: else in the world. She told his mother, that is good.
Speaker 1: That is good. And of course she wasn't done with
Speaker 1: Mary either. Super pissed at Mary, probably like, wow, he
Speaker 1: sure plays a vigorous lover with you. She had some
Speaker 1: of that energy upstairs in my room. And she called
Speaker 1: the constable and said that the maid stole all her spoons,
Speaker 1: and if he came and started your stuff, he would
Speaker 1: find them. Man, these spoons, it's like right, like, it's
Speaker 1: just like the spoons just keep getting moved around stage,
Speaker 1: people coming in out of towards, keep opening different doors.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh good, here's my spoons, and they pick
Speaker 1: him up and move him somewhere else. Somebody else comes
Speaker 1: in the room. Where did those spoons go? Meanwhile, William
Speaker 1: woke up, noticed the bed was empty, and just assumed
Speaker 1: that Mary, you know, had to get up go to work.
Speaker 1: You know, she stayed up late at night to work
Speaker 1: on him, and then she had to get up early
Speaker 1: to work on his house. Life of a maid, I guess.
Speaker 1: So he also snuck out and left the house. He
Speaker 1: wandered around the grounds until around noon, and then casually
Speaker 1: strolled into his house like, honey, I'm home. Which I
Speaker 1: love that he's like skulking around his own house waiting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we will get to the consequences of that right
Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back to the show. Everyone. So William
Speaker 1: comes home, or rather just comes inside, opens the door
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, it's so good to be back
Speaker 1: in town, this parting. What a night. Oh my dear wife,
Speaker 1: you're back, so glad to see you. And mother's here too,
Speaker 1: Oh wonderful. Hey, um, why are you both looking at
Speaker 1: me like that? They're tapping their feet, staring at him,
Speaker 1: arms crossed, and eventually Mrs C looks at him and said, so,
Speaker 1: our maid is stealing from us three silver spoons. Can
Speaker 1: you believe it? The constables already on his way, and William,
Speaker 1: of course, it's basically like, oh, we have a maid.
Speaker 1: Why that's crazy? Stolen spoons? Well, I don't know. Are
Speaker 1: you sure? It's probably nothing? You know what, Let's just
Speaker 1: forget the whole thing. I mean, who cares about spoons anyway? Right,
Speaker 1: And this is the last straw. Mrs C freaks out,
Speaker 1: starts accusing him of everything. She's like, you've been sleeping
Speaker 1: with her. I know it. I was in the bed
Speaker 1: last night, you were sleeping with me. You thought it
Speaker 1: was her? Well, you're dumb. How can you not tell
Speaker 1: the difference between us? A that's so ridiculous. And he
Speaker 1: looks to his mom like, hey, mom, little help here.
Speaker 1: My wife's being real crazy and the mom who don't
Speaker 1: forget Mrs c has been living with for the last
Speaker 1: four months. She's been caring for her while she was sick.
Speaker 1: The mom is like, oh, I don't think so big trouble,
Speaker 1: and she starts screaming at him too, for being a
Speaker 1: big piece of ship, and the two of them, his
Speaker 1: mom and his wife both leave the house in a huff.
Speaker 1: They hop in a carriage and they sped off to
Speaker 1: go back to the mother's estate. What a day for
Speaker 1: William and his wife just piling on it, right, He
Speaker 1: just fake got back into town from a big trip
Speaker 1: and immediately gets yelled at he'd only had one trip
Speaker 1: to redew ate himself. Well, Mary the maid was indeed
Speaker 1: arrested because, of course the constable came and found the
Speaker 1: spoons in her trunk where she was just waiting for
Speaker 1: an opportune time, I guess, to find somewhere to slip on, right,
Speaker 1: And what's she gonna say, Like, No, I was just
Speaker 1: waiting to put those back somewhere. It's just that, like
Speaker 1: this other guy had, I had stolen them, and then
Speaker 1: like he put him back like a joke. And then
Speaker 1: I found them later, and then I realized that it
Speaker 1: would show that I was having an affair. So I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I mean, just like hide them for later,
Speaker 1: just to like put him somewhere else and find them
Speaker 1: so I could give him that. He's like, all right, Lassie,
Speaker 1: tell it to the judge. Yeah. She sat in jail
Speaker 1: for nearly six months before her trial, but when the
Speaker 1: time came, Mrs C just could not testify against her.
Speaker 1: Johnson writes, quote, she did not believe the made guilty
Speaker 1: of any theft except that of love. So Mrs C
Speaker 1: just didn't show up at court and Mary was released
Speaker 1: for lack of evidence. And that's just so crazy that
Speaker 1: she had to sit in jail for six months to
Speaker 1: wait for her trial. To see it was like, I
Speaker 1: think you've had enough, d You're going to get six
Speaker 1: months in jail. How's that sound. I took my freaking time.
Speaker 1: She didn't drop the charges. You'll note she was just like,
Speaker 1: I guess I won't go, but I'll let her. I'll
Speaker 1: let her rotten there think about what she did. But
Speaker 1: while Mary was in prison, it was revealed that she
Speaker 1: was pregnant, and she and William both knew that it
Speaker 1: was his. Shortly after her release, she delivered a baby
Speaker 1: girl and named her Anne, and she went to live
Speaker 1: in town by herself, with William offering her secret financial support. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: William got word that his wife was pregnant as well.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, But you know what, the timing doesn't really
Speaker 1: line up because he hadn't slept with her since the
Speaker 1: night that he thought she was married, at least seven
Speaker 1: months before, but she wasn't that far along yet. Oh
Speaker 1: apple was stepping out also, So of course he gets
Speaker 1: super mad at her and he starts acting like he
Speaker 1: knew all along that she was being unfaithful and he
Speaker 1: finally had proof of it. Now okay, William, And a
Speaker 1: few months later she gave birth to twins, a boy
Speaker 1: and a girl. Now William's mother, the Mrs C's mother
Speaker 1: in law, had fallen very ill and she was urging
Speaker 1: William to reconcile with his wife, but he refused his
Speaker 1: classic ship where he was acting like she was the
Speaker 1: villain here, like he wasn't the victim. Yeah, like he
Speaker 1: wasn't doing the exact same thing sleeping around and his
Speaker 1: likely before her, I mean hers was probably a response
Speaker 1: to the fact that she had left him. She had
Speaker 1: to go rebound with hot Tanner, the Tanner. She's like,
Speaker 1: who did Mary? Like, oh that Tanner? Okay, get over here. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's good. So he's being a real jerk about his
Speaker 1: wife and he won't reconcile with her because he says
Speaker 1: she's the one who's doing everything wrong, she's sleeping around,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Well, his mother saw what was going
Speaker 1: on with this, and she decided to really stick it
Speaker 1: to him one last time before she died. So she
Speaker 1: wrote out a will, and she left everything she had
Speaker 1: in a trust and designated it to be under the
Speaker 1: use of Mrs c and her two twins to do
Speaker 1: with as they pleased. Just bypassed her. I'm going to
Speaker 1: support your wife and her I mean it was her
Speaker 1: daughter in law, you know, like she cared about her.
Speaker 1: Clearly they got pretty close. And just a few days
Speaker 1: after she wrote that will, she passed away. And most
Speaker 1: of William's money outside of his business came from his mother.
Speaker 1: So this really screwed him. You know, this was an
Speaker 1: inheritance he was waiting for. But as Johnson writes, quote,
Speaker 1: his wife was kinder to him than he deserved for
Speaker 1: she made him a yearly allowance out of what was left,
Speaker 1: though they continued to live separate, and for five years,
Speaker 1: Mrs c would send William a big chunk of cash
Speaker 1: every year so that he could, you know, maintain his
Speaker 1: uh fancy lifestyle. Wow, that's pretty impressive. I guess maybe
Speaker 1: she was like, well, I also stepped out. I guess
Speaker 1: she's like, you know, this is your family money. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take a lot of it, but I'll send you
Speaker 1: some every year. The concession is. But during that time,
Speaker 1: William grew really fond of Mary and the daughter they
Speaker 1: had together, and he would visit her home occasionally. Keeping
Speaker 1: his paternity a secret, he decided he really wanted Anne
Speaker 1: to come live with him. So would this man do, eliar,
Speaker 1: our contestant, Hi, shout out to my family, now, Eli,
Speaker 1: would this man do? Did he a admit to his paternity,
Speaker 1: divorce his wife Mary the maid, and raise the girl
Speaker 1: as his own daughter? Okay, be adopt the girl from
Speaker 1: Mary for a large sum of money, reconcile with his wife,
Speaker 1: moved back in, and offer to be a father to
Speaker 1: the twins in the hopes that she would be willing
Speaker 1: to be a mother to Anne. Well, it's kind of nice, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: or see sneak Anne into his house and raise her
Speaker 1: in boy's clothing because everyone knew Mary had given birth
Speaker 1: to a girl, so he could pretend it was a
Speaker 1: relative son that he was raising as a ward so
Speaker 1: as not to raise suspicions as to why he had
Speaker 1: his child in his house. I've seen this game before
Speaker 1: and I kind of feel like it must be CEE
Speaker 1: because of just how dumb that sounds. Well, Eli, you've
Speaker 1: won the big problem it is c ding ding? What
Speaker 1: do I win? Um? The chance to leave a chance?
Speaker 1: It kind of game show is this? It's a few
Speaker 1: doors to pick from God. The's like gremlin and one
Speaker 1: of them can't only lie and the truth. Okay, what
Speaker 1: would he tell me to do? That's a different game though.
Speaker 1: It's a whole separate game show. After this game show, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well no it was c William took his daughter, his
Speaker 1: biological daughter Anne, back to his home and dressed her
Speaker 1: in boy's clothing for years, telling everyone that it was
Speaker 1: some cousins boy and this boy was going to be
Speaker 1: a clerk for him one day, so he wanted him
Speaker 1: to grow up around the house and learn the ins
Speaker 1: and outs of Irish law. M Well, what do we
Speaker 1: know about Mrs c We know that she's not an idiot.
Speaker 1: She knows his family very well. She's been living with
Speaker 1: his mother for quite a long time. And so she
Speaker 1: hears about this boy one day and she's like, William,
Speaker 1: I know all of your relatives, none of them have
Speaker 1: recently had a baby boy, So what the hell is
Speaker 1: going on over there? And William really underestimates her all
Speaker 1: his moves. He's like, she'll never put two and two together, right.
Speaker 1: So she sent a friend to go to the house
Speaker 1: and talk to the kid directly, which immediately revealed that
Speaker 1: a this kid was a girl, and be this kid's
Speaker 1: mother was Mary Brennan, their former maid. And see that
Speaker 1: William was still constantly communicating with Mary. So it's again
Speaker 1: didn't take a very complicated sleuthing job, but she figured
Speaker 1: it out real quick, real real quick, and that was
Speaker 1: enough for Mrs Applecormick. She was quote unwilling that her
Speaker 1: children's money should go towards the maintenance of bastards, and
Speaker 1: she immediately cut off William's allowance, which I had to say,
Speaker 1: that's not very fair. First of all, his own mother
Speaker 1: was like maintaining her bastards with her money. So let's
Speaker 1: be real girls, I'll like you had you were trying
Speaker 1: to force some kids off didn't belong to you on somebody.
Speaker 1: So anyway, William was like, I'm not taking that line down,
Speaker 1: and he had one more trick up his sleeve. He
Speaker 1: moved Mary into his house publicly and lived with her
Speaker 1: as his mistress. Bat'll show her, I mean, like, how
Speaker 1: was that supposed to have. I'll embarrass myself and that'll
Speaker 1: really teach you something. Yeah, I'll make me and Mary
Speaker 1: really uncomfortable. That sounds like a real way to stick
Speaker 1: it to her. Of course, it did not stick it
Speaker 1: to her. All it did was generate a huge scandal
Speaker 1: around him with his neighbors and Mrs Cormick's family had
Speaker 1: a lot of influence in the area as well, and
Speaker 1: once they realized what was happening, they started talking mad
Speaker 1: shit about him all over town, and little by little
Speaker 1: his law firms started to lose business. It wasn't long
Speaker 1: before he lost the practice altogether. And you know, it
Speaker 1: was only one thing left to do. He took Mary
Speaker 1: and Anne, sold just about everything owned, and together with
Speaker 1: the family, went to Cork and hopped a ship for
Speaker 1: the New World and they landed and what's now Charleston,
Speaker 1: South Carolina, and he took up a law practice there,
Speaker 1: which didn't work out too well for him. He eventually
Speaker 1: ended up working as a merchant and that worked out
Speaker 1: very well. Yeah, he made a ton of money as
Speaker 1: a merchant, really made a name for himself. Uh, down
Speaker 1: there in the in the sort of port towns and
Speaker 1: in the Caribbean and all these places that were a
Speaker 1: real hot spot at the time. Time enterprising gentleman can
Speaker 1: make a lot of money in a pop pound. He
Speaker 1: never did. Mary Mary, but publicly she was known as
Speaker 1: his wife. Um. Sadly, when Anne was only about thirteen
Speaker 1: years old, Mary died and Anne sort of had to
Speaker 1: step up and become the housekeeper. But around this time
Speaker 1: and started acting out, and she would get really violent.
Speaker 1: She was a really rambunctious and difficult teenager. Um. It's
Speaker 1: rumored that she even killed a serving maid with a
Speaker 1: knife when she was a teenager. But even Captain Johnson,
Speaker 1: you know that the King of Embellishments, says that that
Speaker 1: story is quote ground bliss. But he does say that
Speaker 1: at one point a young man tried to force himself
Speaker 1: on her, but Mary quote beat him so that he
Speaker 1: lay ill of it a considerable time. Yes, but she
Speaker 1: lived with her father in a pretty good lifestyle. She
Speaker 1: was well provided for, and she grew up in a
Speaker 1: pretty nice situation. But William wanted a very specific match
Speaker 1: in a husband for her, and she had fallen in
Speaker 1: love with a young broke sailor named James Bonnie, and
Speaker 1: she ended up marrying him without her father's consent, and
Speaker 1: this made William furious and he kicked her out of
Speaker 1: the house. So Ann and James Bonnie hopped a ship
Speaker 1: and set sail for the island of New Providence, which
Speaker 1: is now Nassau in the Bahamas, and they started looking
Speaker 1: for work. And that is just the beginning of Ann
Speaker 1: Bonnie's story. But but it it it sort of sets
Speaker 1: the stage and let's you know about this crazy situation
Speaker 1: that led to her birth. Um probably had some sort
Speaker 1: of influence on why she became, you know, such a
Speaker 1: notorious pirate, certainly had an interesting upbringing. Um who knows
Speaker 1: why she got so violent, But everyone in this story
Speaker 1: just chose the weirdests. It's so funny. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: I guess I can't dress my kids, my girl like
Speaker 1: a boy anymore. Everybody figured that one out. I can't
Speaker 1: divorce my wife, so living with my mistress as a
Speaker 1: mistress doesn't really work. I guess I'll just literally leave
Speaker 1: the entire country. Sometimes that's your only I got to start.
Speaker 1: Let me go to England or something. But no, that's
Speaker 1: what the New world was for, right, want me shed
Speaker 1: my whole identity and just try and start over with
Speaker 1: an ocean between me and everybody who hates me. Right,
Speaker 1: that's so true. He's like the entire all of Cork
Speaker 1: or all of this town hates me. Let's just get
Speaker 1: at you, right, Like you said. You know, an enterprising
Speaker 1: young man can make quite a fortune as a merchant.
Speaker 1: And I was going to say, especially after he lost
Speaker 1: his business, he's probably like, all right, now I need
Speaker 1: to like start over career wise too, So I really
Speaker 1: need to go somewhere where I can make a niche
Speaker 1: and I don't have to know somebody around and stuff.
Speaker 1: That does make sense. He did do well for himself,
Speaker 1: and now, okay, I will say that again, there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of evidence outside of this book to back
Speaker 1: up these stories. Um, there is a deed someone found
Speaker 1: that was to a William Cormick for some land in
Speaker 1: South Carolina from King George. Uh so they're like that
Speaker 1: could be his, But there's nothing really else to tie
Speaker 1: that to An Bonnie. So there's no telling if this
Speaker 1: is the same guy or not, or if that guy
Speaker 1: really was her father or any of these stories. Um,
Speaker 1: but the only document we have says that it was.
Speaker 1: So I love going with it. I think it's a
Speaker 1: great story, and it's just hard to to leave that
Speaker 1: one aside. Again, I'm looking at the An Bonnie story
Speaker 1: and it opens with this tail, and I was like, this,
Speaker 1: We've got to tell this. Hell are like you said,
Speaker 1: what are any of these people doing? They're all making
Speaker 1: the worst choices. That's one of the reasons I believe
Speaker 1: it's so hard, because I'm like, you can't make this.
Speaker 1: Shut up that this is This is very much a
Speaker 1: display of true human idiocy. You know, if anyone was
Speaker 1: trying to write that spoon story, they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is boring, just spoons, I should change it to
Speaker 1: a necklace or something. I feel like, I feel like
Speaker 1: you're right. A writer would would be doing different things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if this was fiction, it would have been humans. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that whole ship with the spoons is nuts, and then
Speaker 1: she lays in bed and pretends to be the maid.
Speaker 1: That's so weird while he's screwing her. That's so weird,
Speaker 1: so weird. There's no heroes in this story. Everyone's sucks here,
Speaker 1: at least of all the maid, I guess. But again,
Speaker 1: she was kind of you know, she was sleeping with
Speaker 1: with a married man, although we could talk about power
Speaker 1: dynamics and say maybe she really didn't have as much
Speaker 1: choice as she wanted. Definite they're definite and balance and
Speaker 1: it would be especially hard without the wife there. I
Speaker 1: think to be like, oh, I'm you know, I don't
Speaker 1: want to lose my job. She's going to find out, like,
Speaker 1: you don't have any excuses. So but she might have
Speaker 1: been really into him, clu she was because they lived
Speaker 1: together for the rest of her life, or again, the
Speaker 1: reason she slept with him because it was like, this
Speaker 1: is my best option for a comfortable life. That's true too.
Speaker 1: Um so all right, well he's the father of this
Speaker 1: kid that I've that I'm responsible for that I want
Speaker 1: a good life for. So yeah, I guess I'll move
Speaker 1: in with the rich guy and go to the New
Speaker 1: world with him, and it's better than sitting here where
Speaker 1: everybody hates me in town, you know, incredibly hard to
Speaker 1: be an unmarried mother, particularly I think in Ireland. Sure,
Speaker 1: I know they have a lot of Catholic energy around motherhood.
Speaker 1: I don't um. What was that The Magdalene Sisters. Do
Speaker 1: you ever see that movie? Oh? You know, I didn't
Speaker 1: see it, but I'll never forget it because it just
Speaker 1: made me so upset. But it was about Irish girls
Speaker 1: having to go to a convent because they were seen
Speaker 1: as being like loose or flirtatious or whatever. And one
Speaker 1: of them was an unwed mother, um and one of
Speaker 1: them got sexually assaulted by a family member, but of
Speaker 1: course she got she got sent away. He nothing happened
Speaker 1: to him, it was all her fault. And then the
Speaker 1: other girl was just like kind of flirty. She never
Speaker 1: did anything, but they were like, you're gonna do something
Speaker 1: one day, so we may as well go ahead and
Speaker 1: start torturing you out of your femininity. Like it's really
Speaker 1: insane movie anyway, But that's I was thinking about that
Speaker 1: with her. She must have Mary must have had a
Speaker 1: very hard time, like Williams having a hard time with
Speaker 1: Anne's family talking ship and he's losing business, Like, I
Speaker 1: feel like people wouldn't look at Mary and they probably
Speaker 1: called her names. I spit at her and she was
Speaker 1: thinking about the future of Anne's future, being very stunted
Speaker 1: by those choices too. It's always I'm guessing, but you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always the woman's fault, right when when a man,
Speaker 1: when a merry band sleeps with the home wrecker, they say, like,
Speaker 1: all right, who wrecked the home? Here? Really home to preserve?
Speaker 1: It's a good point. I mean, it takes two. It
Speaker 1: takes two to tango. Like, you can't put all the
Speaker 1: blame on either party. Um, but it is unfairly placed
Speaker 1: on lady, on the woman. And again in this situation
Speaker 1: with the power dynamics, I think it'd be unfair to
Speaker 1: really even weigh it anywhere towards her, because we can
Speaker 1: only assume that it probably wasn't like her comment on
Speaker 1: to him. It's probably like, hey, you're cute little maids.
Speaker 1: Why don't you come over here and and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: feather my duster or whatever. And she's like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: not very good with your words, there are you? William.
Speaker 1: He's like, now, are people really like job based sexual puns? Uh?
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just thought this was such a goofy story,
Speaker 1: a bunch of really wacky characters. It's such a farce. Um,
Speaker 1: but but it does lead us into the story we
Speaker 1: were in setting out to tell, which was and Bonnie
Speaker 1: Mary read and Calico Jack so excited. That's one of
Speaker 1: my like the earliest stories. I was like, we should
Speaker 1: definitely do this right away, and then we haven't done
Speaker 1: it yet something so excited again. You know, we got
Speaker 1: a space out our pirate stories a little bit, but
Speaker 1: I love it. I can't wait, so very excited to
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Speaker 1: next week. Whenever this episode airs and that one airs.
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