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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, very excited today. I liked your build. That

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Speaker 1: you know. I was like, wait, what's that distant sound? Wow,

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Speaker 1: the party's here. That's me. That's what people always say

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because that's so true. I don't know. Well,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the show, everybody. Yeah, thanks for tuning

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Speaker 1: in my own Sorry, wow, that's all a different show.

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Speaker 1: What do we did like that? Though? You know, I

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Speaker 1: thanks everyone turning reblcables all Miles. I can't tell him.

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Speaker 1: Is this like a drunk elvis or? I don't know either,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like exploring this. It's an original character.

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Speaker 1: It's nobody. Yeah, yeah, fascinating. Is out of my character study? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: send your feedback. We'd love to hear it. What's the

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Speaker 1: backstory of this guy? Oh, we're so excited to have

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, can we just change this

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Speaker 1: whole podcast. It's the only thing I want to talk about.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't seen this movie, if you haven't heard

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Speaker 1: of this movie, whatever, don't watch any trailers, don't read

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. It is the coolest movie I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: I've seen a cool movie, but this one was truly original,

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Speaker 1: Like it's wild and I'm still not you know, gonna

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Speaker 1: everything everywhere, all at once. Starring Michelle Yo. It's incredibly

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Speaker 1: exciting film. It's like watching Spider Verse sort of Spider

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Speaker 1: in this movie. Anyway. Yeah, we could talk about that

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Speaker 1: after you've seen it and we'll we'll talk handlessly. Um,

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Speaker 1: were going into research a totally different story, found this

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Speaker 1: Now two of these people are the parents of the

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Speaker 1: Hayley French, come listen. Well, Eli and Diana got some

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Speaker 1: It's just about pridiculous relationships, a lover. It might be

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Speaker 1: So most of this story comes from a novel which

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Speaker 1: is titled A General History of the Robberies and Murders

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Speaker 1: to piracy. That is a great one. That is a

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Speaker 1: Pirates of the car Lesbian Oh, a tale of plundered

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Speaker 1: You've got to watch it. Hashtag renew Our Flag means

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Speaker 1: it's still going on a little, but I don't want

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Speaker 1: then she became a pirate. And I'm like, y'all skipped

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Speaker 1: You know, we we don't generally think of pirates parents,

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Speaker 1: William Cormick, and he was a pretty well to do

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Speaker 1: Right after this welcome back to the show, what so Sexy?

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Speaker 1: Trying not to be too weird. I guess I made

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Speaker 1: She's always been a good mate. She's always been cordial

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Speaker 1: she starts having these flashbags to just how friendly William

421
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: always was with Mary. And she starts thinking, wait a minute,

422
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: I just got home after being away sick for four months,

423
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: and William happened to arrange to be out of town today. Okay,

424
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,719
Speaker 1: And again, it didn't take a Sherlock Holmes here to

425
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: figure out why Mary hadn't found the spoons in her bed,

426
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: because she hadn't been sleeping in her bed. Mrs C

427
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: doing the real sleuth in here, right, Yeah, she's definitely

428
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: putting two into like what other bed could she possibly spoon?

429
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: It's actually not a very complicated board. It's like it's

430
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: our bed and it's your bed. That's it. There's no

431
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: other beds. Johnson writes that quote as women seldom forgive

432
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: injuries of this kind. She thought of discharging her revenge

433
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: upon the maid women. You know, women be crazy. I mean,

434
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 1: he's not totally wrong. I always hated the song The

435
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: Boy is Mine because I only ever heard it on

436
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: the radio, and I was always like, why are Monica

437
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: and Brandy fighting each other? They should be fighting with

438
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: the man who has been lying to them both clearly.

439
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: And then I saw the video and in the video

440
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: at the very end they can they confront him together.

441
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, well, now I like the song better.

442
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: The director of the video fixed it. The director the

443
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: video fixed it. I was like, I wish it was

444
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: a little line, you know where they like black mcnock,

445
00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: you know, or something. He's like huhh right. So anyway,

446
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: she's pissed and she starts hatching a plan to screw

447
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: Mary and catch her husband in the act. And first

448
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: she puts the spoons right back where she found them

449
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: in Mary's bed, and she goes to the maid and says, hey,

450
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: my mother in law is going to be sleeping in

451
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 1: my bed tonight, so I'm going to sleep in yours,

452
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: So if do we favor, go change the sheets and

453
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: then find somewhere else to sleep. I know you're good

454
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: at that. Oh no, you're good on that. And she's

455
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: like huh, She's like nothing, nothing, You're so good at everything.

456
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: That's what I said, Oh, thank you, and Mary obeyed.

457
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: She went and stripped the sheets off her bed and

458
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: what should clattered to the floor but the three silver spoons.

459
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: And she's like, these spoons are haunting my days. She's

460
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: totally confused why these spoons in her bed, but she

461
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: knows it doesn't look good because she's been talking about

462
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: the Stanner. So she decides to slip them into her

463
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: trunk so that she can later place them somewhere conspicuous

464
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: in the house and then conveniently happened upon them and

465
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: be the hero of the hour. Well, what do you know?

466
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: Here they are? How do they find their way into

467
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: the library? So, just as planned, the mother in law

468
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: takes the master bedroom and Mrs c goes down to

469
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: sleep in Mary's bed. She lay there late just jealousy,

470
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: keeping her wide awake the whole time. She wasn't quite

471
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: sure what was going to come with this little scheme,

472
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: but she knew something was up, and sure enough, late

473
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: that night, William came home snuck into the house and

474
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: he goes up to the master bedroom and he looks

475
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: inside and he sees a woman sleeping in the bed,

476
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: and he thinks my wife is home. Well, what's one

477
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: more night with Mary, Hell's wife. He's asleep, so let

478
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: me just go down to the servants quarter. Is real

479
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: quick and had myself one last little fling. So he

480
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: goes down to Mary's bedroom and he creaked open the

481
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: door and he saw a woman in the bed. Of

482
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: course he thinks, well, Mary's in there, sleeping, wife's upstairs,

483
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: the perfect crime. Everything's coming up, William. So but of

484
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: course Mrs C is lying awake in that bed in

485
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: the dark, and at first she was scared that when

486
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: the door opened it was thieves. But then right where

487
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: the thief would go to the servant where all the

488
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: riches are. But then William whispered, Mary, are you awake?

489
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: And Mrs C immediately knew that voice that was her husband,

490
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: that rat bastard. So it's time for everybody's favorite game show,

491
00:29:53,480 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: What this lady do? Okay, Diana, your today is contestant

492
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: on what did this lady do? So this woman is

493
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: faking sleep in the bed of the woman that she

494
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: thinks is sleeping with her husband. She's had this whole

495
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: plan to catch him in the act, and now it's

496
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: all coming to fruition. As the husband is in the

497
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: room and he's called out the maid's name. So what

498
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: did this lady do? Did she a leap from the bed,

499
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: call him out on coming into the servants quarters in

500
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: the middle of the night instead of his own bedroom,

501
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: and accuse him of infidelity, be disguise her voice as

502
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: the maids invite him into bed, and then reached down

503
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: his pants and squeeze the life out of his balls

504
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: as she revealed herself to him. I'm pretty compelling, or see,

505
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: continue to pretend to be asleep, let him get into

506
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: the bed and have sex with her in the dark,

507
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: thinking the whole time that she was in fact Mary

508
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: the maid, and never give herself away. What did this

509
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: lady do? Oh? My god? How well? I know what

510
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: I would do is probably be I guess, um, let's see.

511
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: But I feel like, what's really going to get her

512
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: where she? I mean, C is insane. I mean, that's

513
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: not gonna solve any of her problems. So I feel

514
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: like she probably I think I'm gonna go with a. Oh,

515
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, But of course it was c most

516
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: ridiculous choice you can imagine. Yeah, Unfortunately C is the

517
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: correct answer. Johnson writes that quote, the husband came to

518
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: bed and that night played the vigorous lover. That Shakespearean

519
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: played the vigorous lover. Sorry, honey, I'm just playing the

520
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: vigorous lover. Don't mind me, mind me. And the wife

521
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: just lays there knowing this isn't even meant for her.

522
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: All this vigorous lovemaking end quote was very passive and

523
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: bore it like a Christian, you know, like a good

524
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: Christian woman. She just shot up and took it. That's terrible. Wow,

525
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: that's really something coming from Captain Johnson, star of Asked Pirates.

526
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: That is insane. I love that She's like, I'm going

527
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: to catch him in the act. And then when she

528
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: was literally in the act with him, she's like, I

529
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: guess I'll just lay here and not get any of

530
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: my goals anyway. So before the sun came up, she

531
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: snuck out of the bed and did the one thing

532
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: that she knew would punish this man more than anything

533
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: else in the world. She told his mother, that is good.

534
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: That is good. And of course she wasn't done with

535
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: Mary either. Super pissed at Mary, probably like, wow, he

536
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: sure plays a vigorous lover with you. She had some

537
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: of that energy upstairs in my room. And she called

538
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: the constable and said that the maid stole all her spoons,

539
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: and if he came and started your stuff, he would

540
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: find them. Man, these spoons, it's like right, like, it's

541
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: just like the spoons just keep getting moved around stage,

542
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: people coming in out of towards, keep opening different doors.

543
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: He's like, oh good, here's my spoons, and they pick

544
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: him up and move him somewhere else. Somebody else comes

545
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: in the room. Where did those spoons go? Meanwhile, William

546
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: woke up, noticed the bed was empty, and just assumed

547
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: that Mary, you know, had to get up go to work.

548
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: You know, she stayed up late at night to work

549
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: on him, and then she had to get up early

550
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: to work on his house. Life of a maid, I guess.

551
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: So he also snuck out and left the house. He

552
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: wandered around the grounds until around noon, and then casually

553
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: strolled into his house like, honey, I'm home. Which I

554
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: love that he's like skulking around his own house waiting. Yeah,

555
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: so we will get to the consequences of that right

556
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back to the show. Everyone. So William

557
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: comes home, or rather just comes inside, opens the door

558
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, it's so good to be back

559
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: in town, this parting. What a night. Oh my dear wife,

560
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: you're back, so glad to see you. And mother's here too,

561
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: Oh wonderful. Hey, um, why are you both looking at

562
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: me like that? They're tapping their feet, staring at him,

563
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: arms crossed, and eventually Mrs C looks at him and said, so,

564
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: our maid is stealing from us three silver spoons. Can

565
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: you believe it? The constables already on his way, and William,

566
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: of course, it's basically like, oh, we have a maid.

567
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: Why that's crazy? Stolen spoons? Well, I don't know. Are

568
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: you sure? It's probably nothing? You know what, Let's just

569
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 1: forget the whole thing. I mean, who cares about spoons anyway? Right,

570
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: And this is the last straw. Mrs C freaks out,

571
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: starts accusing him of everything. She's like, you've been sleeping

572
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: with her. I know it. I was in the bed

573
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: last night, you were sleeping with me. You thought it

574
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: was her? Well, you're dumb. How can you not tell

575
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: the difference between us? A that's so ridiculous. And he

576
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: looks to his mom like, hey, mom, little help here.

577
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: My wife's being real crazy and the mom who don't

578
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: forget Mrs c has been living with for the last

579
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: four months. She's been caring for her while she was sick.

580
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: The mom is like, oh, I don't think so big trouble,

581
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: and she starts screaming at him too, for being a

582
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: big piece of ship, and the two of them, his

583
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: mom and his wife both leave the house in a huff.

584
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: They hop in a carriage and they sped off to

585
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: go back to the mother's estate. What a day for

586
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: William and his wife just piling on it, right, He

587
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: just fake got back into town from a big trip

588
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: and immediately gets yelled at he'd only had one trip

589
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: to redew ate himself. Well, Mary the maid was indeed

590
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: arrested because, of course the constable came and found the

591
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: spoons in her trunk where she was just waiting for

592
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: an opportune time, I guess, to find somewhere to slip on, right,

593
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: And what's she gonna say, Like, No, I was just

594
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: waiting to put those back somewhere. It's just that, like

595
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: this other guy had, I had stolen them, and then

596
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: like he put him back like a joke. And then

597
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: I found them later, and then I realized that it

598
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: would show that I was having an affair. So I

599
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I mean, just like hide them for later,

600
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: just to like put him somewhere else and find them

601
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: so I could give him that. He's like, all right, Lassie,

602
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: tell it to the judge. Yeah. She sat in jail

603
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: for nearly six months before her trial, but when the

604
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: time came, Mrs C just could not testify against her.

605
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: Johnson writes, quote, she did not believe the made guilty

606
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: of any theft except that of love. So Mrs C

607
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: just didn't show up at court and Mary was released

608
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: for lack of evidence. And that's just so crazy that

609
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: she had to sit in jail for six months to

610
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: wait for her trial. To see it was like, I

611
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: think you've had enough, d You're going to get six

612
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: months in jail. How's that sound. I took my freaking time.

613
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 1: She didn't drop the charges. You'll note she was just like,

614
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: I guess I won't go, but I'll let her. I'll

615
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: let her rotten there think about what she did. But

616
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: while Mary was in prison, it was revealed that she

617
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: was pregnant, and she and William both knew that it

618
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: was his. Shortly after her release, she delivered a baby

619
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: girl and named her Anne, and she went to live

620
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: in town by herself, with William offering her secret financial support. Meanwhile,

621
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: William got word that his wife was pregnant as well.

622
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: Oh shit, But you know what, the timing doesn't really

623
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: line up because he hadn't slept with her since the

624
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: night that he thought she was married, at least seven

625
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: months before, but she wasn't that far along yet. Oh

626
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: apple was stepping out also, So of course he gets

627
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: super mad at her and he starts acting like he

628
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: knew all along that she was being unfaithful and he

629
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: finally had proof of it. Now okay, William, And a

630
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: few months later she gave birth to twins, a boy

631
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: and a girl. Now William's mother, the Mrs C's mother

632
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: in law, had fallen very ill and she was urging

633
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: William to reconcile with his wife, but he refused his

634
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: classic ship where he was acting like she was the

635
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: villain here, like he wasn't the victim. Yeah, like he

636
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: wasn't doing the exact same thing sleeping around and his

637
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: likely before her, I mean hers was probably a response

638
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: to the fact that she had left him. She had

639
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: to go rebound with hot Tanner, the Tanner. She's like,

640
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: who did Mary? Like, oh that Tanner? Okay, get over here. Yes,

641
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: that's good. So he's being a real jerk about his

642
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: wife and he won't reconcile with her because he says

643
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: she's the one who's doing everything wrong, she's sleeping around,

644
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Well, his mother saw what was going

645
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: on with this, and she decided to really stick it

646
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: to him one last time before she died. So she

647
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: wrote out a will, and she left everything she had

648
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: in a trust and designated it to be under the

649
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: use of Mrs c and her two twins to do

650
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: with as they pleased. Just bypassed her. I'm going to

651
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: support your wife and her I mean it was her

652
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: daughter in law, you know, like she cared about her.

653
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: Clearly they got pretty close. And just a few days

654
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: after she wrote that will, she passed away. And most

655
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: of William's money outside of his business came from his mother.

656
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: So this really screwed him. You know, this was an

657
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: inheritance he was waiting for. But as Johnson writes, quote,

658
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: his wife was kinder to him than he deserved for

659
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: she made him a yearly allowance out of what was left,

660
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 1: though they continued to live separate, and for five years,

661
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: Mrs c would send William a big chunk of cash

662
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: every year so that he could, you know, maintain his

663
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 1: uh fancy lifestyle. Wow, that's pretty impressive. I guess maybe

664
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: she was like, well, I also stepped out. I guess

665
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 1: she's like, you know, this is your family money. I'm

666
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: gonna take a lot of it, but I'll send you

667
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: some every year. The concession is. But during that time,

668
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: William grew really fond of Mary and the daughter they

669
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: had together, and he would visit her home occasionally. Keeping

670
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: his paternity a secret, he decided he really wanted Anne

671
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: to come live with him. So would this man do, eliar,

672
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: our contestant, Hi, shout out to my family, now, Eli,

673
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: would this man do? Did he a admit to his paternity,

674
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: divorce his wife Mary the maid, and raise the girl

675
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: as his own daughter? Okay, be adopt the girl from

676
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 1: Mary for a large sum of money, reconcile with his wife,

677
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: moved back in, and offer to be a father to

678
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: the twins in the hopes that she would be willing

679
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: to be a mother to Anne. Well, it's kind of nice, okay, okay, okay,

680
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: or see sneak Anne into his house and raise her

681
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 1: in boy's clothing because everyone knew Mary had given birth

682
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: to a girl, so he could pretend it was a

683
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: relative son that he was raising as a ward so

684
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: as not to raise suspicions as to why he had

685
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: his child in his house. I've seen this game before

686
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: and I kind of feel like it must be CEE

687
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: because of just how dumb that sounds. Well, Eli, you've

688
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: won the big problem it is c ding ding? What

689
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: do I win? Um? The chance to leave a chance?

690
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 1: It kind of game show is this? It's a few

691
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: doors to pick from God. The's like gremlin and one

692
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: of them can't only lie and the truth. Okay, what

693
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: would he tell me to do? That's a different game though.

694
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: It's a whole separate game show. After this game show, Yeah,

695
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: well no it was c William took his daughter, his

696
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: biological daughter Anne, back to his home and dressed her

697
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: in boy's clothing for years, telling everyone that it was

698
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: some cousins boy and this boy was going to be

699
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: a clerk for him one day, so he wanted him

700
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: to grow up around the house and learn the ins

701
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: and outs of Irish law. M Well, what do we

702
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: know about Mrs c We know that she's not an idiot.

703
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: She knows his family very well. She's been living with

704
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: his mother for quite a long time. And so she

705
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: hears about this boy one day and she's like, William,

706
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: I know all of your relatives, none of them have

707
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: recently had a baby boy, So what the hell is

708
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: going on over there? And William really underestimates her all

709
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: his moves. He's like, she'll never put two and two together, right.

710
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 1: So she sent a friend to go to the house

711
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: and talk to the kid directly, which immediately revealed that

712
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 1: a this kid was a girl, and be this kid's

713
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: mother was Mary Brennan, their former maid. And see that

714
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: William was still constantly communicating with Mary. So it's again

715
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: didn't take a very complicated sleuthing job, but she figured

716
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: it out real quick, real real quick, and that was

717
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: enough for Mrs Applecormick. She was quote unwilling that her

718
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 1: children's money should go towards the maintenance of bastards, and

719
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: she immediately cut off William's allowance, which I had to say,

720
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 1: that's not very fair. First of all, his own mother

721
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: was like maintaining her bastards with her money. So let's

722
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: be real girls, I'll like you had you were trying

723
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: to force some kids off didn't belong to you on somebody.

724
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: So anyway, William was like, I'm not taking that line down,

725
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: and he had one more trick up his sleeve. He

726
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 1: moved Mary into his house publicly and lived with her

727
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: as his mistress. Bat'll show her, I mean, like, how

728
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: was that supposed to have. I'll embarrass myself and that'll

729
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: really teach you something. Yeah, I'll make me and Mary

730
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: really uncomfortable. That sounds like a real way to stick

731
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: it to her. Of course, it did not stick it

732
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: to her. All it did was generate a huge scandal

733
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: around him with his neighbors and Mrs Cormick's family had

734
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: a lot of influence in the area as well, and

735
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: once they realized what was happening, they started talking mad

736
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: shit about him all over town, and little by little

737
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: his law firms started to lose business. It wasn't long

738
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: before he lost the practice altogether. And you know, it

739
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: was only one thing left to do. He took Mary

740
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: and Anne, sold just about everything owned, and together with

741
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: the family, went to Cork and hopped a ship for

742
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: the New World and they landed and what's now Charleston,

743
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,959
Speaker 1: South Carolina, and he took up a law practice there,

744
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 1: which didn't work out too well for him. He eventually

745
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: ended up working as a merchant and that worked out

746
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: very well. Yeah, he made a ton of money as

747
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: a merchant, really made a name for himself. Uh, down

748
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: there in the in the sort of port towns and

749
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: in the Caribbean and all these places that were a

750
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: real hot spot at the time. Time enterprising gentleman can

751
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: make a lot of money in a pop pound. He

752
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: never did. Mary Mary, but publicly she was known as

753
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: his wife. Um. Sadly, when Anne was only about thirteen

754
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: years old, Mary died and Anne sort of had to

755
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: step up and become the housekeeper. But around this time

756
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: and started acting out, and she would get really violent.

757
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: She was a really rambunctious and difficult teenager. Um. It's

758
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: rumored that she even killed a serving maid with a

759
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: knife when she was a teenager. But even Captain Johnson,

760
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: you know that the King of Embellishments, says that that

761
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: story is quote ground bliss. But he does say that

762
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: at one point a young man tried to force himself

763
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: on her, but Mary quote beat him so that he

764
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: lay ill of it a considerable time. Yes, but she

765
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: lived with her father in a pretty good lifestyle. She

766
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: was well provided for, and she grew up in a

767
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: pretty nice situation. But William wanted a very specific match

768
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: in a husband for her, and she had fallen in

769
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: love with a young broke sailor named James Bonnie, and

770
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: she ended up marrying him without her father's consent, and

771
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: this made William furious and he kicked her out of

772
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: the house. So Ann and James Bonnie hopped a ship

773
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: and set sail for the island of New Providence, which

774
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: is now Nassau in the Bahamas, and they started looking

775
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: for work. And that is just the beginning of Ann

776
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: Bonnie's story. But but it it it sort of sets

777
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: the stage and let's you know about this crazy situation

778
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: that led to her birth. Um probably had some sort

779
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: of influence on why she became, you know, such a

780
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: notorious pirate, certainly had an interesting upbringing. Um who knows

781
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: why she got so violent, But everyone in this story

782
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 1: just chose the weirdests. It's so funny. He's like, well,

783
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: I guess I can't dress my kids, my girl like

784
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: a boy anymore. Everybody figured that one out. I can't

785
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: divorce my wife, so living with my mistress as a

786
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: mistress doesn't really work. I guess I'll just literally leave

787
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: the entire country. Sometimes that's your only I got to start.

788
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: Let me go to England or something. But no, that's

789
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: what the New world was for, right, want me shed

790
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: my whole identity and just try and start over with

791
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: an ocean between me and everybody who hates me. Right,

792
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: that's so true. He's like the entire all of Cork

793
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: or all of this town hates me. Let's just get

794
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: at you, right, Like you said. You know, an enterprising

795
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: young man can make quite a fortune as a merchant.

796
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: And I was going to say, especially after he lost

797
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 1: his business, he's probably like, all right, now I need

798
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: to like start over career wise too, So I really

799
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: need to go somewhere where I can make a niche

800
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: and I don't have to know somebody around and stuff.

801
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: That does make sense. He did do well for himself,

802
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: and now, okay, I will say that again, there's not

803
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 1: a lot of evidence outside of this book to back

804
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 1: up these stories. Um, there is a deed someone found

805
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: that was to a William Cormick for some land in

806
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: South Carolina from King George. Uh so they're like that

807
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: could be his, But there's nothing really else to tie

808
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: that to An Bonnie. So there's no telling if this

809
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: is the same guy or not, or if that guy

810
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: really was her father or any of these stories. Um,

811
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: but the only document we have says that it was.

812
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: So I love going with it. I think it's a

813
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: great story, and it's just hard to to leave that

814
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: one aside. Again, I'm looking at the An Bonnie story

815
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: and it opens with this tail, and I was like, this,

816
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: We've got to tell this. Hell are like you said,

817
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: what are any of these people doing? They're all making

818
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 1: the worst choices. That's one of the reasons I believe

819
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: it's so hard, because I'm like, you can't make this.

820
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: Shut up that this is This is very much a

821
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: display of true human idiocy. You know, if anyone was

822
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: trying to write that spoon story, they'd be like, oh,

823
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: this is boring, just spoons, I should change it to

824
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: a necklace or something. I feel like, I feel like

825
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: you're right. A writer would would be doing different things. Yeah,

826
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: if this was fiction, it would have been humans. But yeah,

827
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 1: that whole ship with the spoons is nuts, and then

828
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: she lays in bed and pretends to be the maid.

829
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: That's so weird while he's screwing her. That's so weird,

830
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: so weird. There's no heroes in this story. Everyone's sucks here,

831
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: at least of all the maid, I guess. But again,

832
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 1: she was kind of you know, she was sleeping with

833
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: with a married man, although we could talk about power

834
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 1: dynamics and say maybe she really didn't have as much

835
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: choice as she wanted. Definite they're definite and balance and

836
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: it would be especially hard without the wife there. I

837
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: think to be like, oh, I'm you know, I don't

838
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: want to lose my job. She's going to find out, like,

839
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: you don't have any excuses. So but she might have

840
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 1: been really into him, clu she was because they lived

841
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: together for the rest of her life, or again, the

842
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: reason she slept with him because it was like, this

843
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,479
Speaker 1: is my best option for a comfortable life. That's true too.

844
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: Um so all right, well he's the father of this

845
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: kid that I've that I'm responsible for that I want

846
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: a good life for. So yeah, I guess I'll move

847
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: in with the rich guy and go to the New

848
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: world with him, and it's better than sitting here where

849
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: everybody hates me in town, you know, incredibly hard to

850
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: be an unmarried mother, particularly I think in Ireland. Sure,

851
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: I know they have a lot of Catholic energy around motherhood.

852
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: I don't um. What was that The Magdalene Sisters. Do

853
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 1: you ever see that movie? Oh? You know, I didn't

854
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: see it, but I'll never forget it because it just

855
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 1: made me so upset. But it was about Irish girls

856
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: having to go to a convent because they were seen

857
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: as being like loose or flirtatious or whatever. And one

858
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: of them was an unwed mother, um and one of

859
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: them got sexually assaulted by a family member, but of

860
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: course she got she got sent away. He nothing happened

861
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: to him, it was all her fault. And then the

862
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: other girl was just like kind of flirty. She never

863
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: did anything, but they were like, you're gonna do something

864
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: one day, so we may as well go ahead and

865
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: start torturing you out of your femininity. Like it's really

866
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: insane movie anyway, But that's I was thinking about that

867
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: with her. She must have Mary must have had a

868
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: very hard time, like Williams having a hard time with

869
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: Anne's family talking ship and he's losing business, Like, I

870
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 1: feel like people wouldn't look at Mary and they probably

871
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: called her names. I spit at her and she was

872
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: thinking about the future of Anne's future, being very stunted

873
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: by those choices too. It's always I'm guessing, but you know, yeah,

874
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: it's always the woman's fault, right when when a man,

875
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: when a merry band sleeps with the home wrecker, they say, like,

876
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: all right, who wrecked the home? Here? Really home to preserve?

877
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: It's a good point. I mean, it takes two. It

878
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: takes two to tango. Like, you can't put all the

879
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: blame on either party. Um, but it is unfairly placed

880
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: on lady, on the woman. And again in this situation

881
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: with the power dynamics, I think it'd be unfair to

882
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: really even weigh it anywhere towards her, because we can

883
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: only assume that it probably wasn't like her comment on

884
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: to him. It's probably like, hey, you're cute little maids.

885
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: Why don't you come over here and and uh, you know,

886
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: feather my duster or whatever. And she's like, oh, you're

887
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: not very good with your words, there are you? William.

888
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: He's like, now, are people really like job based sexual puns? Uh?

889
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just thought this was such a goofy story,

890
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of really wacky characters. It's such a farce. Um,

891
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: but but it does lead us into the story we

892
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: were in setting out to tell, which was and Bonnie

893
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: Mary read and Calico Jack so excited. That's one of

894
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: my like the earliest stories. I was like, we should

895
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: definitely do this right away, and then we haven't done

896
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: it yet something so excited again. You know, we got

897
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: a space out our pirate stories a little bit, but

898
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: I love it. I can't wait, so very excited to

899
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: come back with you for that later this week or

900
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: next week. Whenever this episode airs and that one airs.

901
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: You'll figure it out anyway the next the next episode.

902
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: So please let us know what you thought of This

903
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: is such a fun story and we would love to

904
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: hear from you. Um shoot us an email. Yeah, ridic

905
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Speaker 1: Romance at gmail dot com. Slide into the d M s.

906
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 1: I'm at Dynamite Boom on Twitter and Instagram and I'm

907
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: at oh great, it's Eli on the same although god,

908
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: I've been so off Instagram lately. So follow the show

909
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: at ridic Romance because that's really where you're going to

910
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: get the most of us. Uh, we're gonna have all

911
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: sorts of fun stuff. We'll have a post about each episode.

912
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: You can comment there with your thoughts. Super fun and hey, uh,

913
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Speaker 1: what have you done today? Have you gotten onto Apple

914
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: Podcasts and left us review because that's a great way

915
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: to spend fifteen minutes out of your day. Yeah, I

916
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: mean you just clicked a little five star button there

917
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: and then you just write out some good thoughts about

918
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: what you like about the show. Um, other people see it,

919
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: they think, well, that's a good show. It makes this

920
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: person feel good. Maybe I should try it out. And

921
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: then they listen to and we're all happy. Everyone feels

922
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Speaker 1: good at least an hour day, right, well twice a week. Yeah,

923
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: throw some joy into the world. We can't wait to

924
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: catch you on the next episode. Thanks for tuning in

925
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: as always. Yes, I love to have you here. Hey

926
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Speaker 1: for you to leave, I wish I could watch you

927
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Speaker 1: walk away? All right, Thanks al, we'll catch next time. Bye,

928
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: So long friends, it's time to go. Thanks so listening

929
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Speaker 1: to our show, tell your friends names, uncle's and dance

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Speaker 1: to listen to our show. Ridiculous, Well NaNs