WEBVTT - MAGA Wants War

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peep Sen, and welcome to WIKA, a daily

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<v Speaker 1>with Meet your Girl Danielle Moody. Recording from the Home Bunker. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's been Let's just think about this for

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. It's been almost almost two entire years since

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<v Speaker 1>the insurrection January sixth, twenty twenty one. We are but

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<v Speaker 1>a handful of months away from January sixth, twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>And while the Department of Justice has issued indictments charges

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<v Speaker 1>sentencing against the quote unquote foot soldier of the insurrection,

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<v Speaker 1>those people that were physically inside of the building, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they have extended to those people that were not

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<v Speaker 1>physically inside but were indeed coordinating. We have seen sedition

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<v Speaker 1>charges put up against members of the Oath Keepers and

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<v Speaker 1>the Proud Boys, and yet, dear friends, as Glenn will

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<v Speaker 1>tell us in our upcoming interview, none of the actual suits,

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to the boots that were on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>have been indicted. Glenn and I will get into a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation about where we are right now as it pertains

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<v Speaker 1>to Donald Trump and the stolen classified documents and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Judge A. Lean Cannon is a Trump lackey

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<v Speaker 1>has no business having the position, the lifetime position that

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<v Speaker 1>she does have that Mitch McConnell and Donald Trump stuffed

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<v Speaker 1>down our throats after Donald Trump lost the election. She

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<v Speaker 1>was obviously placed there for a reason. And I say

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<v Speaker 1>to Glenn, what is the fucking point of us as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole people who actually believe in the rule of law,

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<v Speaker 1>people that are forced to follow the rule of law

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<v Speaker 1>while others that are rich, white, wealthy, siss hetero do not.

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<v Speaker 1>How are we going to seek accountability and justice inside

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<v Speaker 1>of a system that is already rigged? This is my

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<v Speaker 1>real fundamental question. If you know, and if there are

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<v Speaker 1>other legal experts on both the right and the left

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<v Speaker 1>that are saying that Judge Cannon's decisions and even her

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<v Speaker 1>written opinions are motherfucking suspect, then how were we continuing

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<v Speaker 1>to operate above board when we know that these people

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<v Speaker 1>are doing everything in their power to thwart the rule

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<v Speaker 1>of law and to ensure that Donald Trump never sees accountability. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump most recently was on Somebody's right wing bullshit talk

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<v Speaker 1>show where he stated unequivocally what sounded most definitely like

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<v Speaker 1>a threat to me, where if in fact justice does

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<v Speaker 1>begin to rain down at some point like a mighty

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<v Speaker 1>stream that the people, the American people, he says, will

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<v Speaker 1>not stand for it. Well, what people? Because a majority

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<v Speaker 1>of Americans, not your sycophant twenty five percent, but a

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<v Speaker 1>majority of Americans actually know that if they had a

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of the crimes or thought or perception of the

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<v Speaker 1>crimes that Donald Trump has committed, they would be under

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<v Speaker 1>a jail. So how is it then that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>thinks that a majority of Americans are gonna what? As

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<v Speaker 1>Lindsay Graham had also threatened take up arms to defend

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<v Speaker 1>this piece of ship. I mean, maybe they will, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know this, this I know for certain in my heart,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have been thinking about this, folks, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have been meditating on this. They want war. I have

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<v Speaker 1>said it on this show a number of times. I

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<v Speaker 1>have said it on television. Marga wants war. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that they will rest until they get their war,

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<v Speaker 1>because they are so goddamn trigger happy, right, wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>take down any black and brown person that they see,

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to shoot up women, wanting to do all of

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<v Speaker 1>these hateful things. Right, But they ain't gonna win. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care how many bullets and guns that they have

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<v Speaker 1>on their side because, as doctor Britney Cooper had said

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<v Speaker 1>many many months ago on this show, they can't kill us,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, And so my feeling about their very bold,

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<v Speaker 1>threatening language that they have continued to use, readying their

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<v Speaker 1>folks in this new era of stand back and stand by.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling our team pay attention, keep your eyes wide open,

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<v Speaker 1>keep your chin up, keep your back straight, because they

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<v Speaker 1>ain't going to win. I don't know how long we

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<v Speaker 1>will be in this fight. I have said that I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that it will get bloodier before it gets better.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm telling you they will not win. Coming up next,

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<v Speaker 1>Kirshner to work us through our legal woes. I am

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<v Speaker 1>greatly appreciative, and I say legal woes, Glenn, because right now,

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<v Speaker 1>as a sign says, behind you, we're trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out in America if justice actually does matter. We're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out if there is any integ already left

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<v Speaker 1>in our Department of Justice as we are continuing with

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<v Speaker 1>this dance with this BS that is happening down in

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<v Speaker 1>Florida with Judge Cannon. The latest, well at least the

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<v Speaker 1>latest that I know, but I know you'll give us

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<v Speaker 1>a deeper overview, is that the Department of Justice has

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<v Speaker 1>said okay to the Trump judged, one of the two

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<v Speaker 1>judges that they have put up to be a quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote special Master. Again, I don't even understand what we

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<v Speaker 1>are doing here when the Department of Justice has already

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<v Speaker 1>gone through the documents that they took over a month ago,

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<v Speaker 1>that they took back over a month ago from Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>So give us an overview, Glenn as to where we

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<v Speaker 1>are with this nonsense, because I don't know what else

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<v Speaker 1>to call it other than that, Yeah, boy, and we

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<v Speaker 1>got woes, you know, and I do think there is

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of integrity at the Department of Justice. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>too damn much timidity at the Department of Justice. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why they are declining to indict criminal charges

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<v Speaker 1>that we all know there is adequate evidence to indict.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we can circle back to that in a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take on Judge A. Lean Cannon, the completely unqualified

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<v Speaker 1>federal judge that was installed by Donald Trump and Mitch

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<v Speaker 1>McConnell's Senate after Donald Trump lost the election. So she

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<v Speaker 1>was put there for a reason, and now she's doing

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<v Speaker 1>precisely what Trump and McConnell had hoped she would do,

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<v Speaker 1>make illegitimate rulings to protect Donald Trump. That's what she's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't say that lightly or cavalierly. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much to dislike about how she's handled this litigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump stole classified information, top secret materials, national defense documents,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why this is also an Espionage Act case,

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<v Speaker 1>and information about the nuclear capabilities of foreign countries. He

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<v Speaker 1>stole it all, then he illegally concealed it at Mara Lago,

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<v Speaker 1>including after it had been subpoenaed. The fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>violated that subpoena gives rise to an obstruction of justice charge,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a twenty year offense. And then when the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI seized it all, took back the stuff he stole

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<v Speaker 1>from the government and began to investigate Donald Trump's crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Alien Cannon swooped in and entered a stop work order.

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<v Speaker 1>You may not investigate the crimes of Donald Trump as

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<v Speaker 1>they pertain to these documents. That's insane, that's arguably beyond

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<v Speaker 1>the powers of the judiciary. But that's what she did.

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<v Speaker 1>And she said, So, what I'm going to do, because

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump has asked me to, is a point a

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<v Speaker 1>special person, a third party, somebody independent, to go through

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff and see if the FBI and the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice should really get to use this evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that Donald Trump stole from the federal government to investigate

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<v Speaker 1>the crimes of Donald Trump. Another level of insanity. The

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice said, well, first of all, Judge, we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it all and that's important for our purposes. But

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<v Speaker 1>now what we need to do is investigate what Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump did with it so we can determine just how

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<v Speaker 1>badly he's damaged our national security. Let me give you

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<v Speaker 1>an example to just bring it home concrete. If Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump took a classified document, stole it from the White House,

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<v Speaker 1>folded it up, put it in his breast pocket, brought

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<v Speaker 1>it tomorrow Lago, and never showed it to or exposed

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<v Speaker 1>it to anyone. Well, that's an investigation that the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>would have to conduct, and then they would hand off

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<v Speaker 1>the investigation to the intelligence community, the CIA and the like,

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<v Speaker 1>and they would assess the threat and the damage to

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<v Speaker 1>our national security. Now, I think we can agree that

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<v Speaker 1>the threat might be very low if they could prove

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<v Speaker 1>through an investigation that nobody saw it after Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>took it to mar Lago. That same document, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>steals it from the White House, goes down to mar Lago,

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<v Speaker 1>and starts letting our adversaries see it, copy it, snap

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of it. Maybe he sells it to our enemies,

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<v Speaker 1>leverages it for a favorable business deal. Well, then if

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI conducted that investigation and learned those facts and

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<v Speaker 1>pass them off to the intelligence community, the threat to

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<v Speaker 1>our national security might be extraordinarily high, and our overseas assets,

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<v Speaker 1>their lives might be at risk. Judge Cannon said, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not permitted to do that investigation. That's insane and dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>She's facilitating Donald Trump's compromise of our national security. Now

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<v Speaker 1>what the Department of Justice said, as well, you know what, Judge,

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<v Speaker 1>you're blowing our minds. That's my interpretation of their pleadings,

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<v Speaker 1>all of which I've read. But if you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>there has to be this independent, third person special master

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<v Speaker 1>to review some of the stuff we took from our

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<v Speaker 1>lago some of what we took might have some attorney

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<v Speaker 1>client privilege information in it, not the classified documents, other

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that we seize during the execution of the search

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<v Speaker 1>ward that we were authorized to seize, and we've already

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<v Speaker 1>segregated that out with what's called a privilege review team.

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<v Speaker 1>The Special Master is welcome to look at that and

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<v Speaker 1>see if we should be able to use it in

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<v Speaker 1>our investigation or if it enjoys attorney client privilege such

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<v Speaker 1>that we shouldn't be allowed to use it. That, Danielle

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<v Speaker 1>is actually the appropriate use of a special Master. And

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<v Speaker 1>the judge said, yeah, I don't care. I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>what you filed, I don't care what Trump's team filed.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the way it's going to be. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice said, well, we're appealing the whole ball

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<v Speaker 1>of Wax to the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals because Judge,

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<v Speaker 1>you're out to lunch. Factually and legally, here's what she said.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just finish. I know, I'm finish. I got

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<v Speaker 1>eight questions. Yeah, the most absurdain thing I've ever heard

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<v Speaker 1>of federal judge saying. She said, we know that the

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<v Speaker 1>government asserts, the Department of Justice claims that there were

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of classified documents. Sure, we've seen pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of the classified banner with everything else redacted out of

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<v Speaker 1>many of these documents that were taken from Donald Trump's office,

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<v Speaker 1>not from a storage room. And we know even Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's defense attorneys have never have never claimed that he

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<v Speaker 1>declassified anything. They've never made that claim in court. They

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<v Speaker 1>said he has the power to, but they've never said

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<v Speaker 1>he has declassified anything. She then said in her written order,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe. I don't believe there's even classified information

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<v Speaker 1>there that echoes a Donald Trump talking point. Well, many

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<v Speaker 1>people are saying nothing was classified. That is the most

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<v Speaker 1>insane thing I think I've ever heard out of the

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<v Speaker 1>mouth of a federal judge. She doesn't believe, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not willing to accept the Department of Justice's representation

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<v Speaker 1>that there were classified materials there. So here's the thing, Glenn,

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<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate the overview. So here's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>billion questions that I have. First of all, we know

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<v Speaker 1>that Judge Aileen Cannon should not have this job. We

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<v Speaker 1>know that she is I'm going to use the word corrupt.

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<v Speaker 1>And why do I say that? Because she was appointed

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<v Speaker 1>after Donald Trump lost. She has no resume that matches

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<v Speaker 1>the position that she is going to behold and for

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<v Speaker 1>a lifetime appointment, and she is using Trump maga QAnon

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<v Speaker 1>talking points in her own writings. We know this, So

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<v Speaker 1>you tell me why the hell there isn't an investigation

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<v Speaker 1>and a case into this judge. Why do we just

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<v Speaker 1>accept accept the fact that we know that there are

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<v Speaker 1>a myriad of judges that have been appointed simply for

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<v Speaker 1>the protection of Donald Trump, And we say, those of

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<v Speaker 1>us that believe in the actual rule of law are like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess there's nothing we can do here, and we

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<v Speaker 1>just continue to operate above board, knowing that everything is

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<v Speaker 1>actually stacked against us with this band of criminals. You know, Daniel,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could give you a satisfactory answer to

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<v Speaker 1>why the Department of Justice doesn't rise to the challenge

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<v Speaker 1>of take on corrupt judges. Now we have seen that

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<v Speaker 1>they apparently are unwilling, as is Congress to take on

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<v Speaker 1>corrupt Supreme Court justices, which you know has the potential

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<v Speaker 1>of wreaking so much havoc in our country, like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know having women's constitutional privacy rights revoked, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>we seem entirely unwilling to take that on by opening hearings,

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<v Speaker 1>I would call them impeachment inquiries to investigate what it

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<v Speaker 1>is that Thomas and Alito and Kavanaugh and Coney, Barrett

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<v Speaker 1>and Gorsuch did when they misrepresented their true views about

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<v Speaker 1>Rowe versus Wade in their confirmation hearings under oath. That

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't guarantee that if we open those hearings we tackle

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<v Speaker 1>that hard issue on behalf of the American people. Doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee that the House will pass articles of impeachment, but

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<v Speaker 1>if they do, it also doesn't guarantee that the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>will convict them. But if we don't take the first

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<v Speaker 1>step on the road to accountability, then we've already lost

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<v Speaker 1>the battle, which is precisely what you just were asking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are we unwilling to take the first step on

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<v Speaker 1>the road to accountability that I don't have an answer for.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish it would change because it I mean to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess because I operate in reality and on Earth one.

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<v Speaker 1>It does not make sense for us to continue. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean us as part of those that are into

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Justice that are not a punch a

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<v Speaker 1>part of Trump's lying like criminal syndicate. How are we

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<v Speaker 1>pursuing accountability and responsibility and we're hedging our bets on

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<v Speaker 1>people that were installed to block that path altogether? How

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<v Speaker 1>are we continuing to say that, oh, yes, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to bring the best case possible if the decision has

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<v Speaker 1>already been made before you open up your mouth and

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<v Speaker 1>present your evidence. If a judge is sitting there and

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<v Speaker 1>saying to you, here are folders that literally friggin read

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<v Speaker 1>classified information, and then you have the audacity to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't believe that there's class that's like me, say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe this guy is blue. I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>water is wet. Right, just because you are not operating

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<v Speaker 1>in the place of reality doesn't mean that that's where

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of us are. And I just don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>how we think that we are going to hold onto

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<v Speaker 1>our democracy and our institutions if we are not literally

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<v Speaker 1>digging down to the core and getting rid of all

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<v Speaker 1>of the rot. I don't know. I'm with you, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, something needs to change. I think one of

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<v Speaker 1>the one of the areas where we can be somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>hopeful is the upcoming mid terms. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there is reason to be more hopeful now that we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get you know, a something of a blue tidal wave,

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<v Speaker 1>and the decency will be rising in America after that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, decency rising is important, but accountability rising

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<v Speaker 1>is more important. And that's what we need. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we need people who are willing to take the fight

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<v Speaker 1>to the bastards, even if, even if we are not

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<v Speaker 1>guaranteed to be successful. You know, people when they took

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<v Speaker 1>on the J six Committee public hearings, people were like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not gonna matter. Nobody's going to get impeached. Congress

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<v Speaker 1>can't prosecute anybody. All of that is true, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>look at how important those public hearings have been to

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<v Speaker 1>expose to the American people the crimes of Trump and company.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very much a hearts and minds campaign, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you can convince the hearts and minds, then maybe an

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<v Speaker 1>unduly timid DOJ will follow with criminal charges. Here's my question, Glenn, though,

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to the January sixth committee hearings, and we

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<v Speaker 1>know that there is at the end of this month,

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<v Speaker 1>we will pick up where we left off at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the summer. You know, they are doing a

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<v Speaker 1>masterful job, as you're saying, in terms of presenting the

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<v Speaker 1>evidence to the people, and as if the American public

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<v Speaker 1>are the jurors right to really understand and sift through

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<v Speaker 1>this information. However, what I keep hearing from people that

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<v Speaker 1>listen to my shows and follow me is that, yeah, Danielle,

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<v Speaker 1>we have these we have this pile of evidence. If

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<v Speaker 1>it were me or you, we would be in jail already.

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<v Speaker 1>So what good is this if we're doing if this

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<v Speaker 1>is just for pomp and circumstance and nothing that they

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<v Speaker 1>believe is actually going to happen. And again, the more

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<v Speaker 1>evidence that comes up, the more things that we learn

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<v Speaker 1>about what Donald Trump has done and the inaction that

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<v Speaker 1>is taking, just continue any with quote unquote investigations. People

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<v Speaker 1>are losing faith and so my question for you is,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that there is potential that the January

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<v Speaker 1>six committee hearings will actually backfire in terms of presenting

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<v Speaker 1>again this mount everest worth of information and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>no prosecution on the side of the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 1>that actually has the power to prosecute. I'm not worried

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<v Speaker 1>about it backfiring because even the transparency that it's bringing

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<v Speaker 1>to us, it helps. It will help in the midterms,

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<v Speaker 1>it will help us understand the crimes of Trump and company,

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<v Speaker 1>and I absolutely believe it is moving the Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Justice prosecutorial needle. We have seen DJ, excuse me, We've

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<v Speaker 1>seen the j six Committee investigate certain areas, expose certain

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<v Speaker 1>crime and what are we here. The next thing we

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<v Speaker 1>know DJ is subpoenaing those same people to testify before

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<v Speaker 1>the grand jury. That's an indication that they're criminally investigating

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<v Speaker 1>and moving toward prosecution. Now let me use this as

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<v Speaker 1>an example. I did a video last night that was

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<v Speaker 1>a little dark because I wasn't finding much optimism on

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<v Speaker 1>the horizon yesterday and it had to do with Mark Meadows.

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<v Speaker 1>So we just learned that the Department of Justice issued

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<v Speaker 1>a grand jury subpoena to Mark Meadows, the highest Trump

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<v Speaker 1>official that has been subpoenaed to that criminal investigation. Yeay,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought right, and then I read precisely what they

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<v Speaker 1>subpoened from Mark Meadows, not testimony. They subpoened the exact

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<v Speaker 1>say wait, stick with me, though, this is where I

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<v Speaker 1>was last night, exactly where you are. But I tried

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<v Speaker 1>to step back into my prosecutorial days and figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on. So they subpoened exactly what Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Meadows previously gave to Congress text, messages, emails, that whole

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<v Speaker 1>thousand plus trunch of stuff, documents and messages and evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought to myself, Okay, that doesn't really forward

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<v Speaker 1>the information ball because Congress already has all that stuff

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<v Speaker 1>from Mark Meadows before Mark Meadows jumped off the cooperation

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<v Speaker 1>train and said, I'm not abiding by your subpoena for

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<v Speaker 1>testimony for which Mark Meadows should have been indicted, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's contempt of Congress that was referred by Congress to

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Justice for prosecution. And DJ said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not feeling it. We don't care that a crime

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<v Speaker 1>was committed by an executive branch official against Congress. A

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<v Speaker 1>coequal branch of government. We ain't indicting him. That is

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<v Speaker 1>some bs right there, and that still angers me. But

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<v Speaker 1>let me go back to the original point. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, well, why would DJ only subpoena exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>Congress already has here? Is why if we're building a

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<v Speaker 1>criminal case in the grand jury, we don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be in a position if we have this great evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>like incriminating text messages and emails from Mark Meadows talking

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<v Speaker 1>to other Trump co conspirators and Trump, maybe Trump himself,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want to get that evidence from Congress. Why

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<v Speaker 1>because then you have a chain of custody problem, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's harder for us to introduce those things into evidence

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<v Speaker 1>in court. We need to get them from the hot,

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<v Speaker 1>grubby criminal hands of Mark Meadows. So they subpoenaed them

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<v Speaker 1>directly from Mark Meadows, which does away with a chain

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<v Speaker 1>of custody problem, where, oh, great evidence, We're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>get it from Congress and it's going to go through

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<v Speaker 1>several hands and even though it originally came from Mark Meadows,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got it now. That's an evidential read problem. So

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<v Speaker 1>the way I read this subpoena, which on the surface

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<v Speaker 1>seems like less than DJ should be subpoenaing. Is they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it for evidentiary reasons, I would perhaps be doing

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. Of course, I also would have indicted

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Meadows long ago. So in terms of the other

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the cabal of surrounding Donald Trump, John

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<v Speaker 1>Eastman's phone was also subpoena It isn't that correct? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this. I mean, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>we're not tech people, but how are you subpoenaing themand's

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<v Speaker 1>phone over almost two years later and thinking that this

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been wiped? Right? Like I just I'm confused about

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<v Speaker 1>the timing and it being the only thing as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to I'm subpoena in all of your electronics, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I what do you make of that? Two points

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>two observations? One, electronic footprints are forever. So the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that there was stuff that we know should be on

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 1>his phone that he deleted, that's actually incriminating information. But

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 1>more importantly, John Eastman's crimes didn't stop on January sixth

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<v Speaker 1>or January seventh. He continued, I'm convinced to crime, to

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<v Speaker 1>cover up, to lie, to be engaged in a conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>to get away with the crimes he committed in trying

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<v Speaker 1>to reinstall Donald Trump unconstitutionally for a second term. And

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<v Speaker 1>all of that stuff continued. It continued, I believe, until

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<v Speaker 1>the moment they seized his phone. So we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the precise scope of the criminal evidence that served as

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<v Speaker 1>a basis for the search warrant. But I would bet

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<v Speaker 1>a buck that's my betting limit. I'm not a high roller.

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<v Speaker 1>I would bet a buck. It ain't just the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>from January sixth. It is everything else John Eastman had

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<v Speaker 1>been doing up until the moment a federal judge ruled

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<v Speaker 1>found there's probable cause that there is evidence of crime

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<v Speaker 1>in John Eastman's phone. Right now, FBI, you're authorized to season. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>last question for you this week, speaking of phones, where

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<v Speaker 1>are we with the Secret Service? You know, and the

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>fact that they had phone messages that were available on

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<v Speaker 1>January fourth and fifth, nothing on the sixth and seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>But we pick right back up on the eighth they say, oh,

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 1>we had a server transfer. They're supposed to be an

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<v Speaker 1>investigation into there to understand whether or not Cassidy Hutchinson,

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<v Speaker 1>who testified before the January sixth committee and said that

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<v Speaker 1>there was indeed a scuffle between Donald Trump and Secret

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Service when he demanded, because I am the President, to

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<v Speaker 1>take me to the capital on January sixth. He ends

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<v Speaker 1>up tossing catch up in the White House? Where are

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<v Speaker 1>we with that investigation? Or again has that fallen by

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<v Speaker 1>the waist side? As far as far as you know, So,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Zoe Lofgren in the last day or so

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<v Speaker 1>announced that there have been a ton of Secret Service

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<v Speaker 1>text messages and related information pouring in to the January

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<v Speaker 1>sixth committee. Apparently they've been found Oh yeah, that this

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 1>was broke recently, and they said, and she said, there

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of stuff that is very enlightening in there.

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<v Speaker 1>So the natural follow up questions are, one, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think you have it all? Or might the Secret Service

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>have selectively held some back? And then two, why were

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you told in the first instance none of this stuff existed?

0:29:56.240 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>It was deleted and it was irretrievable. Somebody lied to

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Congress about that. But listen, at least now they're getting

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the information and they're going to have to pour through it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I suspect we're going to be hearing more about

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<v Speaker 1>that in the next public hearing. By the way, let

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<v Speaker 1>us let us show you what's some of these Secret

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 1>Service text messages on and around January sixth reveal. Glenn,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had to take a guess, and I know

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>that you're not a gambler, but if you had to

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<v Speaker 1>take a guess on some of the highlights that you

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<v Speaker 1>think that we will hear on September twenty eight, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that they're coming back for season two

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<v Speaker 1>of the Trump indictment Conspiracy? What do you think they're

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<v Speaker 1>coming back with? Yeah, a great question, And I think

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 1>because we have been flipping members of these white nationalists

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<v Speaker 1>and white supremacists and hate groups, the three Percenters, the

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<v Speaker 1>Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers, and we've been flipping our

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<v Speaker 1>way up the chain, it looks like I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to hopefully begin to hear more about the pipeline

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<v Speaker 1>between these hate groups and the White House. And that

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<v Speaker 1>pipeline runs through the Willard War Room, through the Giuliani's

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bannons and the Stones and the Flynns, and

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<v Speaker 1>it goes to Mark Meadows and it goes to the President.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're going to begin to hear more about that,

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<v Speaker 1>at least I hope we begin to hear more about that,

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<v Speaker 1>and gosh, dang it, I hope we start to get

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<v Speaker 1>some indictments of some of the suits of the insurrection,

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<v Speaker 1>not just the boots of the insurrection, because every day

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<v Speaker 1>we are imprisoning folks who attack the capital, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>we have not seen one second of accountability for any

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<v Speaker 1>of the suits of the insurrection. And I hope that

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<v Speaker 1>that's coming. Okay, Glenn, Yeah, let me tell you. As always,

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot frankly, I cannot wait until our conversation that

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<v Speaker 1>comes following the next hearing. I know that we have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks yet, but I'm really looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to that conversation and what we are going to hear.

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