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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I remember going in the

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Speaker 1: back with him. Investigators say Bartow waited for his patient's

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Speaker 1: forward to allege that he sexually abused them twenty years ago.

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Speaker 1: This predator should have been stopped. Victims came forward, but

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Speaker 1: no one would listen, No one would believe. If they

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Speaker 1: which he did. Wow, we're talking about a Pennsylvania pediatrician,

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Speaker 1: doctor Johnny Bartow of Johnstown. Dozens and dozens victims coming forward.

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Speaker 1: Joining me right now, doctor Wendy Dickinson, Psychologists, founder of

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Speaker 1: Grow Counseling, Stephen Lampley, a detective extraordinaire, und family and

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Speaker 1: divorce lawyer, Kathleen Murphy and joining me right now. Crime

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Speaker 1: The CSI behind the Casey Anthony trial. Robin Welansky. Robin,

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Speaker 1: who is this guy? This is a male pediatrician for many,

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Speaker 1: many years, for decades, worked as part of a practice

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Speaker 1: their teens for all kinds of treatments your kids, your

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Speaker 1: kid has a cold, the whole gamut, and he would

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Speaker 1: treat them. But clearly there was something very wrong going

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Speaker 1: on in the background with this guy for decades. You

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Speaker 1: there were allegations, Nancy, that the kids, some of them,

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Speaker 1: this is Lindsay Kennett. Investigators say Barto waited for his

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Speaker 1: was revoked in January. Attorney General Joshapiro said this investigation

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Speaker 1: is ongoing and thanked the victims for their courage coming

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Speaker 1: forwarding it takes victims oftentimes a long time to come

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Speaker 1: you noticed to doctor Wendy Dickinson, a psychologist, founder of

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Speaker 1: zero Doctor Wendy. What does that do to a person

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Speaker 1: to be molested by someone? Your parents take you in,

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Speaker 1: This guy, doctor Johnny Bartow of Johnstown, spent decades abusing

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Speaker 1: Kathleen Murphy, some of the molestations actually occurred while the

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Speaker 1: Who were his typical victims? Robin Wilensky, Right, Nancy. The

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Speaker 1: from the memories, the humiliation. He moved out of town.

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Speaker 1: Shortly after graduation. A police report was filed because he

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Speaker 1: was missing. Five days after he was missing, his body

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Speaker 1: was discovered in his truck with a self inflicted gunshot wound.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've heard this said before, Karen Stark as

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Speaker 1: some people are just too sensitive for this world. Yes, Nancy,

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Speaker 1: and obviously this is the case with this boy. And

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Speaker 1: just think about it. I mean, it's it's so awful

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Speaker 1: to have sexual be sexually abused, to begin with a

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Speaker 1: situation like this, and here he is, he's a homecoming king,

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00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: he's gorgeous, beautiful boy who's filled with shame, humiliation, self blame.

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00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: It's just it's just not acceptable. It's not acceptable, and

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Speaker 1: it makes us all sick that this kind of thing

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Speaker 1: could go on in the school and knew about it. Horrible,

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Speaker 1: it's horrible. Actually welcome. I'm just imagining the parents now,

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Speaker 1: you know. I have such big dreams for the twins.

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00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: I envision them working through to get their Eagle Scout

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Speaker 1: loving high school. John David loves steams science, technology, engineering,

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00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: and math. Lucy loves playing the piano and writing they

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00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: love soccer, they love so many things. I imagine them

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00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: going to college one day and planning a wedding and

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Speaker 1: having a wonderful life. Everything I could possibly do to

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Speaker 1: help them have happiness in their lives. And I wonder

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00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: about this guy's parents, Corbyn's parents sitting at home looking

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Speaker 1: out the window, wondering what went wrong? Their boy is gone.

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Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. I mean, Nancy again, it's it's

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Speaker 1: devastating and it's something they're never ever going to recover from.

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you what went wrong. A predator,

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Speaker 1: a child predator, groomed, abused their son, and people knew

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Speaker 1: about it and did nothing about it, and it led

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Speaker 1: to his death. I have no doubt you know what

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Speaker 1: is insult to injury to Daryl Cohen. This lawsuit alleges

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Speaker 1: the Wells High School principal, Chris mckennony, was warned six times,

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Speaker 1: at least between two sixteen and two seventeen, six times

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Speaker 1: that this teacher, to Neil Whitaker, was having unlawful sex

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Speaker 1: with boy students. He had been given warnings by school

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Speaker 1: district director, a custodial worker, a parent, and two teachers,

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Speaker 1: and did nothing. Well, my question is, did he do nothing,

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Speaker 1: did he do some sort of investigation. Whatever he did,

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00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: if anything, was obviously nothing compared to what he should

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Speaker 1: have done. Now I would like to know what type

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Speaker 1: of warnings they were given. What did the custodians say,

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Speaker 1: what did the other people say. It doesn't bring back

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Speaker 1: this young man, but maybe it will stop this from

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00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: happening again somewhere else, at least in Arizona. We'll take

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Speaker 1: a listen to the high school principal. We started getting

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Speaker 1: reports from people quite some time ago. A lot of

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Speaker 1: them were very reluctant to come forward for a variety

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00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: of different reasons. So we did some unconventional investigation. We

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00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: did a lot of surveillance and some things like that.

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Speaker 1: Was able to gather a lot of information, which then

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00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: led us to circle around and finally we got down

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Speaker 1: to the arrestrials. What I know is that he is

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00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: admitting right there people had come forward. What took so

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Speaker 1: long to Nicole Parton. What became of Tanil Whittaker's husband, Well,

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00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: as you can imagine, devastation entered the home. Now we

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Speaker 1: have two beautiful children who've lost their mother. Of course,

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00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: separation and divorce ensued as she was arrested on these charges.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm taking a picture right now looking at her husband.

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00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Scott, can you imagine discovering your wife

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00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: has been cheating with students molesting them at school? No,

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Speaker 1: I can't. And there's so many of these cases that

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Speaker 1: are out there, Nancy, We're just awash with them. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think back all those years ago when I when

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Speaker 1: dinosaurs were on the earth and I was in high school.

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Speaker 1: You know, there were hints of this that it had

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Speaker 1: gone on, but everybody thought it was just boys being

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00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: boys and talking like teenage boys do. But now, you know,

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Speaker 1: you look back at it retrospectively and you think, my god,

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00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: was this going on back then. I'd have to think

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00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: that it is. But for these families, it's absolutely devastating.

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Speaker 1: What does this do to this familiar group because you know,

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Speaker 1: now you have an abuse I know Karen can address this.

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00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: You have the primary abuse victim, you have the secondary,

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00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: and then you have the tertiary. These children, her biological children,

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00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: are now secondary victims in all of this. And I'd

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Speaker 1: have to state that the husband is too. You know,

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00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: she had been teaching eleven years. How long had this

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Speaker 1: been going on. How many victims are there? This all

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00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: goes down at Wealth Combined School in Wealth, Nevada. It's

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Speaker 1: a tiny town in the northeast corner of the state,

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Speaker 1: which shows Joe Scott that, you know, people think that

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00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: rural life is so idealic. This happens everywhere, Joe Scott. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it does, Nancy, It does, just like all these other

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Speaker 1: horrific crimes that we talk about. I teach rural corners

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Speaker 1: all over the country, and you know, I tell them

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Speaker 1: when it comes to death investigation that you know, just

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00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: because you see it on the news and you think

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00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: it happens in Chicago, New York and all these other places,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it can't happen here, because I guarantee

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Speaker 1: you it has. Evil is pervasive in our world, Nancy,

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00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: and it gets in everywhere, the nooks and the crannies.

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00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 1: We have to be vigilant in cases like this because

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00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 1: you've got so many, so many lives are just absolutely

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00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: wrecked and destroyed. To Daryl Cohen, criminal lawyer, former prosecutor,

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Speaker 1: and civil lawyer. This lawsuit says school officials intentionally ignored

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Speaker 1: multiple complaints regarding Whittaker that allowed Whittaker to continually sex harass, molesque,

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00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: abused children for years, giving them gifts, giving them alcohol

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Speaker 1: on and off school grounds, driving them to hotels. It

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00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: goes on and on, and it says the school had

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00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: actual knowledge, not just suspicions of her grooming and abusing

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Speaker 1: minor students. They got a lot of answering up to do.

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Speaker 1: I think if all of these allegations, or many of

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Speaker 1: the allegations turn out to be accurate, then they are

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00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: going to be paying not only compensatory damages, but punitive damages,

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00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: perhaps the hundreds of millions. And they should because somebody

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00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: has to pay for what happened, not only to this

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00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: young man, but to his family, what happened to her family.

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00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: And it goes on and on and on. Look, she

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00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: was the cancer, and this is an onion whose skin

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00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: gets continually peeled back. And the more it's peeled back,

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00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: the more victims there happened to be. And it's really

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Speaker 1: very sad. But hopefully we can take this and turn

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Speaker 1: into a teachable moment for the entire educational system throughout

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00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: the country and maybe the world. You know, I wish

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Speaker 1: that were true, Daryl, but from what I've seen as

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00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: she willcot. This happens over and over and over, and

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00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: it keeps happening, and we keep having classrooms that are closed.

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00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: I can't look at my children. I don't know what's

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00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: happening right now. They even have live streaming for dogs

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00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: and cats and doggy day care, but not for students.

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Speaker 1: What about that, Ashley? It does keep happening. I think

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00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: that we're moving in that direction where they're going to

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00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: be more and more need for security cameras because even

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00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: with background checks, even with all the precautions, it's going

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00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: to keep happening. You're going to have predators, and so

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00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: I think we're moving in that direction. Sadly, you just

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00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: can't trust someone. I think overall generally we can trust

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Speaker 1: people who are in positions of authority and responsibility, but

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00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: ultimately we're going to continue to have predators. I hope

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00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: we're moving in that direction. But sadly, it was not

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Speaker 1: in time to save the life of this boy, Corbin Madison,

560
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: who commits suicide after his teacher, to Neil Whittaker, sex

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00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: molests him and then it goes public as far as

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00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: to Neil Whittaker goes rot in hell. Nancy Grace crime stories,

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Speaker 1: signing off goodbye, friend,