WEBVTT - The Crazy Story of Pixelon

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tex Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tex Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>And how the tech are you? Uh So, this is

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<v Speaker 1>probably gonna be a little long for a tech Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>tidbits episode, but it's also I think it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere between the tidbits in a full episode. We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>when we get done, won't we. But I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>would do a spotlight on a particular startup story during

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<v Speaker 1>the heyday of the dot com bubble, as in when

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<v Speaker 1>dot com companies were considered the new you know, gold rush.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a story about greed, deception, and a spectacular collapse.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's set the scene. And by the way, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a story that has been told before, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about a particular depiction of this

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<v Speaker 1>later on. Now, in the early nineties, very few people

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<v Speaker 1>outside of academia and maybe some research facilities, some military facilities,

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<v Speaker 1>very few people were aware of the Internet. In general.

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<v Speaker 1>The mainstream was blissfully ignorant of the Internet. People might

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<v Speaker 1>have made use of an online service provider or OSP

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe if you were a nerd like me, a

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<v Speaker 1>bulletin board system or BBS. But these were kind of

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<v Speaker 1>windows into tiny walled gardens for the most part, and

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<v Speaker 1>they only offered a hint of what would be possible

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<v Speaker 1>with the proliferation of the Internet and the Worldwide Web.

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<v Speaker 1>As such, no one was really thinking ahead about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>monetizing the Internet in a meaningful way, because again, most

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<v Speaker 1>folks didn't even know the Internet existed, but then came

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<v Speaker 1>the Worldwide Web in the early nineties. If you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to my interview with barrittun Day Thurston, then you know

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<v Speaker 1>I was skeptical of the Web when I first countered

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<v Speaker 1>it in college, and I could hardly be blamed because

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<v Speaker 1>at that point the Web was essentially a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>text based pages. Uh these were static pages, so nothing

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<v Speaker 1>would change on them, and everything kind of looked like

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<v Speaker 1>it was torn out of a statistics text book. It

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<v Speaker 1>was not exciting. It didn't resemble today's web at all, really,

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<v Speaker 1>But with netscapes, introduction of the Secure Sockets Layer or SSL,

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<v Speaker 1>and the foundation of companies like eBay and Amazon, the

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<v Speaker 1>mid nineties saw a glimmer of what the Web could

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<v Speaker 1>be from a commercial standpoint, if you had to pick

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<v Speaker 1>a year where things really began to take a turn

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<v Speaker 1>towards the commercial would be a pretty decent choice. Shortly

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<v Speaker 1>after that, folks began to really dream big about the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of businesses that could be enabled by the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>and the Web in particular. And behind those companies was

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<v Speaker 1>the financial sector, And in this case we're talking mostly

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<v Speaker 1>about venture capitalists and other types of investors who saw

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<v Speaker 1>this as an opportunity to turn a lot of money

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<v Speaker 1>into let's see a metric buttload of money. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>these are rich people looking to get way more rich.

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<v Speaker 1>For the most part, there are probably some people who

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<v Speaker 1>probably couldn't afford to invest, and we're doing it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, this was these were the money people, right.

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<v Speaker 1>The potential of the Internet in general and the Web

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<v Speaker 1>in particular looked like it was gonna be uh the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of a huge payout, and for some cases it was.

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<v Speaker 1>So we started seeing these various money people for ludicrous

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<v Speaker 1>amounts of capital into various startups. Now, some of these

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<v Speaker 1>startups didn't really have any business plan to speak of,

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<v Speaker 1>So while they were flush with investment capital and they

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<v Speaker 1>had a whole lot of money to spend. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily have a way to generate significant revenue, and so

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<v Speaker 1>these were companies that were just kind of coasting on

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<v Speaker 1>investment cash and not able to support themselves. So they

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<v Speaker 1>were living on borrowed time. You know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them would end up seeking multiple rounds of funding, and

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<v Speaker 1>they would stay afloat constantly in the in the effort

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<v Speaker 1>to try to either find a way to generate enough

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<v Speaker 1>revenue to sustain itself or and this was the preferred

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<v Speaker 1>thing it still is to this day, get acquired by

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else and and accept an enormous payout and get

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<v Speaker 1>like bonkers wealthy. And some of these companies actually did

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<v Speaker 1>have ways to generate revenue. They weren't like just completely directionless. However,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time we're talking about some relatively modest revenue,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe if they were allowed to grow organically, they

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<v Speaker 1>could have stuck around. But a lot of investors were

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<v Speaker 1>encouraging these companies to scale rapidly, to expand their services

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<v Speaker 1>in their presence well beyond what they could support, and

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<v Speaker 1>so these companies ran into serious trouble because, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>scaling increased costs, but not necessarily an equivalent increase in

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to generate revenue. So really it just meant

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<v Speaker 1>that it was getting more expensive to run these companies

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<v Speaker 1>as they were growing larger and larger. But we don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to talk about all of that. We all know

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<v Speaker 1>that the dot com bubble ultimately burst, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>due to a lot of different factors. But our story

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<v Speaker 1>focuses on one tech startup in this dot com bubble era,

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<v Speaker 1>a startup that got a lot of attention and money

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<v Speaker 1>before things went totally pear shaped, and that startup was

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<v Speaker 1>called Pixelon. Now, a man calling himself Michael Finna founded

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<v Speaker 1>Pixelon in n in San Juan Capistrano, California, and the

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<v Speaker 1>whole purpose of pixelon was to bring streaming video to

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<v Speaker 1>the web. In nine Now, let's get some perspective on this.

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<v Speaker 1>In much of the world that was online was still

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<v Speaker 1>relying on dial up internet. That meant that people who

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<v Speaker 1>were using a modem connected to an ordinary telephone line

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<v Speaker 1>and dialed into an I s P server. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>fastest modems on the market in were capable of download

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<v Speaker 1>speeds of up to fifty six kill a bits per second,

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<v Speaker 1>not gigabits, not megabits, kill a bits and that was

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<v Speaker 1>the fastest. Not everyone had the fastest modems. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>us were rocking significantly slower ones. And sure there were

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<v Speaker 1>a few folks who had DSL connections in the late

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<v Speaker 1>nineties which were significantly faster than dial up modems, and fewer. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>we're starting to get cable internet connections that was really

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<v Speaker 1>on the verge of becoming a thing more in the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand's era. By the late nineties, it was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>darn rare, So it would take time for folks to

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<v Speaker 1>migrate away from dial up, even as these services were

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<v Speaker 1>starting to come online, because I mean, obviously rolling out

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<v Speaker 1>these services across different regions took a lot of time. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>to look at it another way, YouTube, arguably the best

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<v Speaker 1>known online video platform, wouldn't debut until two thousand five.

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<v Speaker 1>So a web based video platform capable of sending streaming

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<v Speaker 1>video with a thousand different channels to a user's computer

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<v Speaker 1>way back in was a pretty darn ambitious goal, not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily impossible, but very challenging to pull off. Now, Finny

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<v Speaker 1>didn't just come into this idea out of the blue.

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<v Speaker 1>He had founded a quote unquote computer business, which is

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<v Speaker 1>about as specific as I can get. Because I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>find any real details about it, but he called it

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<v Speaker 1>a re steck r E S T E C. Find

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<v Speaker 1>out what it means to me. He leased off a

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<v Speaker 1>space from this guy named Chuck Halsworth and Finney's clients,

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<v Speaker 1>we're asking about the possibility of, you know, replaying horse

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<v Speaker 1>races over a computer, like televised horse races, and that

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<v Speaker 1>got him into thinking about computer video, and he and

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<v Speaker 1>Houseworth put a couple of other folks together and they

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<v Speaker 1>founded a company called Digital Motion Video. Over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of about a year, their team made some progress, and

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<v Speaker 1>that led Finney to think of the next big thing,

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<v Speaker 1>a one thousand channel internet video platform capable of streaming

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<v Speaker 1>digital video to users no matter where they were, as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you know, they had a computer and an

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<v Speaker 1>Internet connection. So Michael Finney seemed determined and he established

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<v Speaker 1>himself as the head of pixel on. Uh, it depends

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<v Speaker 1>what the title like. The title depends on what source

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at. It sounds to me like he was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty loosey goosey with titles. In some accounts he's referred

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<v Speaker 1>to as the chairman, and some the CEO and others

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<v Speaker 1>the chief technology officer, and he worked really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>get various investors to pour money into this endeavor, and

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<v Speaker 1>one person whom he tapped to invest in his vision

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<v Speaker 1>was the owner of an insurance company in southern California,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy by the name Paul Ward. Now Ward was

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<v Speaker 1>fascinated by Finney's pitch, but he didn't feel so great

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<v Speaker 1>about Michael Finney himself. I mean, he seemed a bit unstable,

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<v Speaker 1>to put it lightly. This was in the very early

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<v Speaker 1>days of pixel On, when it was just a small

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<v Speaker 1>office with a few employees, plus Finney himself and Finny

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<v Speaker 1>had hired some engineers, but the whole enterprise seemed a

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<v Speaker 1>little uncertain. Finny definitely seemed like a an eccentric leader.

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<v Speaker 1>So Ward was guiding the company toward a round of fundraising,

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<v Speaker 1>which was aiming for around thirty million dollars. Actually, the

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<v Speaker 1>accounts on this very too. Some it says as low

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<v Speaker 1>as twenty eight million, and some it's as high as

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five million, But at any rate, Ward was getting

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<v Speaker 1>a bit nervous about seeking this funding. Meanwhile, Michael Finney

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<v Speaker 1>was publishing press releases announcing that Pixelon had signed a

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<v Speaker 1>deal with Paramount Pictures and Paramount would lean on Pixelon

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<v Speaker 1>to promote Star Trek Insurrection, the next generation film using

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<v Speaker 1>online video. Star Trek Insurrection wasn't that great of a movie,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess that's was kind of a match made

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<v Speaker 1>in heaven. Okay, the plot will thicken, but before we

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<v Speaker 1>thicken the plot, let's take a quick break. Michael Finney

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<v Speaker 1>didn't come across as someone who could build out the

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<v Speaker 1>technical infrastructure to make something like an online streaming video

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<v Speaker 1>network work. So Ward reached out to someone that he

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<v Speaker 1>had met when a New York insurance company had purchased

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<v Speaker 1>his California based insurance company. This was a guy named

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Feldman. Ward asked Feldman to come on board with

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<v Speaker 1>Pixelon to help make it work from a technical level.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, Feldman had been working in I T and

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<v Speaker 1>telecommunications for years, So by this time we're into early

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<v Speaker 1>Pixelon was working on components for streaming video. They would

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<v Speaker 1>later turn out that a lot of the stuff being

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<v Speaker 1>worked on wasn't actually Pixelon's own, stuff like the player

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't Pixelon's. Instead, what they had done was they had

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<v Speaker 1>re skinned. Essentially, they had disguised a version of other

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<v Speaker 1>companies products, namely Microsoft's Windows Media Player. So it had

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<v Speaker 1>a pixel Pixelon overlay, but it was in fact Windows

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<v Speaker 1>Media Player underneath, so Pixelon wasn't even a real pixelon product.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a you know, just a facade. But

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<v Speaker 1>Feldman he comes on and he's told his title as

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<v Speaker 1>Chief Technology Officer, but as I mentioned, the titles were

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<v Speaker 1>real Lucy Goosey. Feldman himself said that maybe that was

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<v Speaker 1>something that Michael Finney was doing intentionally in order to

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<v Speaker 1>keep people kind of off balance and at odds with

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<v Speaker 1>each other so that no one could really challenge him

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<v Speaker 1>as a leader, which should sound a little suss. So

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<v Speaker 1>Feldman starts to work on establishing the technical components to

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<v Speaker 1>make Pixelon's business possible. The company built out a server room.

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<v Speaker 1>They established a few co located server spaces and other

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<v Speaker 1>cities because they knew that if they just depended upon

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<v Speaker 1>one centralized server room, they would not really be able

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<v Speaker 1>to provide service across the country, Like there would be

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<v Speaker 1>severe lag and latency issues the further out you got

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<v Speaker 1>from the main server room, so they started to who

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<v Speaker 1>locate servers in other places. There really wasn't any existing

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<v Speaker 1>infrastructure for the company to rely upon, like there were

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<v Speaker 1>no other providers out there that already had established server

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<v Speaker 1>farms where you could lease space in the farms. That

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<v Speaker 1>that that business didn't really exist yet, so they were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of making it up as they go along. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the company also purchased some extremely expensive video encoding stations,

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<v Speaker 1>so the idea was that users would generate video, they

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<v Speaker 1>would upload it to pixelons servers. Pixelon would then use

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<v Speaker 1>these very expensive encoding stations to encode the video to

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<v Speaker 1>make it suitable for streaming, and then visitors to Pixelon's

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<v Speaker 1>site would be able to watch that video on demand.

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<v Speaker 1>While the engineers were trying to figure out streaming video,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Finna was planning some pretty massive moves. He was also,

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<v Speaker 1>at least according to Fellman, hurling verbal abuse at various

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<v Speaker 1>pixel On employees over the office's p A system. He

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<v Speaker 1>would get on this p A system and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>people need to go back behind the shed for a

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<v Speaker 1>whooping because they weren't um performing up to his expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose. He also occasionally would lead mandatory prayer services

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<v Speaker 1>in the office, again something you don't typically see. Some

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<v Speaker 1>folks would later liken a few of his activities to

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<v Speaker 1>that of a cult leader. Now the biggest pr move

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<v Speaker 1>that he made, and it was one that would really

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<v Speaker 1>become the stuff of legends. Was a twelve million dollar

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<v Speaker 1>party some accounts have it as high as like sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>and a half million dollars that was held in Las Vegas,

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<v Speaker 1>Nevada at the MGM Grand Hotel and Casino and it

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<v Speaker 1>was called the Eye Bash Laura case I Big b

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<v Speaker 1>I Bash. By the way, this is you know before

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<v Speaker 1>like iTunes and stuff, So really edgy there, now, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>I work for I Heart Radio, and I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>really knows how to put on a big live music

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<v Speaker 1>event like they do one every year. I've never been,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's this huge event that happens again in Las Vegas, Nevada,

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<v Speaker 1>and they get huge names on there, so that's not

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<v Speaker 1>that unusual to me. However, if you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>list of performers for Pixilons October debut party, like this

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<v Speaker 1>is their launch party, it really boggles the mind. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do a quick rundown of some of the acts that

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<v Speaker 1>performed at this insane launch party. Keep in mind we

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about nine because at least one or two

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<v Speaker 1>of the acts you might say, well, that doesn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>like that's that big of a deal. These days you

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<v Speaker 1>might find that person performing at a county fair. Not

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<v Speaker 1>not the same in so up, first up we got

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<v Speaker 1>the Brian sets Or Orchestra, which was desperately clinging on

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<v Speaker 1>to the fading days of the swing revival fad of

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<v Speaker 1>the early to mid nineties dark days. Indeed for some

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<v Speaker 1>of my friends who some of them actually really got

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<v Speaker 1>into swing dancing, so they loved it, but the others

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<v Speaker 1>were like, why did swing come back? Um? There was

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<v Speaker 1>also Tony Bennett, a familiar face on the Vegas scene.

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<v Speaker 1>There was Faith Hill, Leanne Rhymes, Natalie Cole. There was

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<v Speaker 1>Kiss you know, they rock and roll all night and

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<v Speaker 1>party every day. There was Sugar Ray, which all right,

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<v Speaker 1>get your jokes in now. And there were the Chicks.

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<v Speaker 1>Back then they went by the name Dixie Chicks. They

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<v Speaker 1>dropped Dixie in twenty twenty. This was also before they

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<v Speaker 1>raised the ire of certain branches of their fandom when

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<v Speaker 1>they started to criticize certain American military policies in the

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<v Speaker 1>early two thousand's. But Happening Things Off was an incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>expensive reunion of the Who. Big big deal there, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the Who are like they're there at that upper echelon

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<v Speaker 1>of rock Star right there, like at Rolling Stones level,

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<v Speaker 1>and the plan was to live cast this party to

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<v Speaker 1>a digital billboard in Times Square, New York. Feldman actually

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<v Speaker 1>requested to be put in charge of making that happen

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<v Speaker 1>because it meant that he could work on a technical

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<v Speaker 1>challenge and more importantly, not be around Michael Finney, whom

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<v Speaker 1>he found to be extremely abrasive. However, he discovered that

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<v Speaker 1>the company's tech just couldn't do it, or maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was actually on the billboard side of things. They were

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<v Speaker 1>leasing billboard space from a company and maybe that was

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<v Speaker 1>where the problem was. In fact, he said that they

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<v Speaker 1>were not able to figure out what was going wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>They just knew it wasn't working. So instead of streaming

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<v Speaker 1>over the inner Net to this digital billboard, Feldman and

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<v Speaker 1>some other folks were able to set up a satellite

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<v Speaker 1>dish on top of a telephone pole and connect that

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<v Speaker 1>to the digital billboard and use the satellite dish to

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<v Speaker 1>catch the satellite feed of the party and send that

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<v Speaker 1>to the billboards. So, in other words, the video being

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<v Speaker 1>shown on the billboard was not being streamed over the

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<v Speaker 1>Internet at all. It was a satellite feed. See pixelon

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<v Speaker 1>was actually beaming this feed via satellite, so that the

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<v Speaker 1>offices in California would be able to receive the broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>and then stream it. It's just that the streaming part

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't working. Now. On top of that, the plan was

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<v Speaker 1>to make video clips of this party the eyebash, available

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<v Speaker 1>on pixel On the following day, the idea being all right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, well, we're going to cut this up into

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<v Speaker 1>performance sized pieces, upload the videos to the service, and

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<v Speaker 1>then people can watch it later. However, it turned out

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<v Speaker 1>that Michael Finney had not set up the proper contracts

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<v Speaker 1>with the talent to secure the rights to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and so apparently everyone except maybe Kiss, denied Pixelon permission

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<v Speaker 1>to make available their performances at this party. So the

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<v Speaker 1>twelve million dollar party was largely a bust, at least

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<v Speaker 1>as far as demonstrating Pixelon's technology. Uh. It might have

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of press, but didn't get a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of movement on the tech front. Now, towards the end

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<v Speaker 1>of nine, Pixelon's investors had had enough of Michael Finney

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<v Speaker 1>as chairman of the company. They felt that he was

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<v Speaker 1>a detriment to the mission. They thought they still thought

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<v Speaker 1>that the company had merit, but that Michael Finney was

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<v Speaker 1>just a destructive force need to be taken care of,

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<v Speaker 1>so they had decided to force him to step down

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<v Speaker 1>from his role at the company. Now, according to Robert Feldman,

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<v Speaker 1>this is when another really bonkers thing happened. Finn A

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<v Speaker 1>apparently hired some armed guards to prevent folks from coming

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<v Speaker 1>into his office. Uh so, really a couple of like

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<v Speaker 1>big beefy bodyguards who at least according to some accounts,

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<v Speaker 1>were armed. Now this was just as the investors were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to visit the company and convince Michael finn A

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<v Speaker 1>two step down. And Feldman says that after contacting the

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<v Speaker 1>Orange County Police Department, a SWAT team showed up and

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<v Speaker 1>the guards ended up being dismissed. Like it, it didn't

0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:32.920
<v Speaker 1>escalate from there, but it did require the SWAT team

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<v Speaker 1>to arrive. Finn A was on the out skis because

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<v Speaker 1>the investors told him he had to go, and Feldman

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<v Speaker 1>and team rushed to lock finn A out of the

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<v Speaker 1>company systems. Paul Ward would take over s CEO. But y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>things are about to get even more crazy. See Pixelon

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<v Speaker 1>was still trying to get services up and running. But

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<v Speaker 1>just wait, at do we come back from this break,

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<v Speaker 1>things are gonna go super nuts. So I said before

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<v Speaker 1>the break, things were about to go super crazy, fun bonkers,

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<v Speaker 1>and here we go. It turned out that Michael Finney

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't Michael Finney. In reality, he was a man named

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<v Speaker 1>David kim Stanley, or, as one Wired article accidentally put it,

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Stanley. Paul Stanley is in fact a member of Kiss.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, it was not Paul Stanley of Kiss who

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<v Speaker 1>was posing as Michael Finney. It was David kim Stanley.

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<v Speaker 1>Now David kim Stanley had a history of running cons

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<v Speaker 1>and scams. He was a pastor's son. In fact, his

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<v Speaker 1>grandfather was also a preacher, so he was the son

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<v Speaker 1>of a preacher man. He had initially focused on tricking

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<v Speaker 1>parishioners and his father's church out of their money. This

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<v Speaker 1>graduated into an all out general stock fraud scheme and

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<v Speaker 1>he was caught in nineteen nine. He was convicted on

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five counts of fraud related charges, which authorities said

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<v Speaker 1>amounted to around one point two million dollars of ill

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<v Speaker 1>gotten gains. He was sentenced to thirty six years in prison,

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<v Speaker 1>but the judge suspended all but eight years on the

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<v Speaker 1>condition that Stanley repay his victims. So Stanley goes to

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<v Speaker 1>prison for a while. He agrees to this this judgment,

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<v Speaker 1>he's released from jail, and then when it came time

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<v Speaker 1>for him to show up and pay restitution, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he didn't. He skipped town. So nearly a

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<v Speaker 1>decade after his conviction, he would establish himself in California

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<v Speaker 1>under the identity Michael Finney. He recognized pretty early on

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<v Speaker 1>that there was this frantic rush towards funding businesses that

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<v Speaker 1>were built on top of the web, and he knew

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<v Speaker 1>a good opportunity when he saw one. Now, I've said

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<v Speaker 1>this many times in the past, but whenever you've got

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<v Speaker 1>yourself something that people do not fully understand, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>excited about it, it opens up the opportunity for scam

0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:20.439
<v Speaker 1>artists to take advantage of people's ignorance and enthusiasm. In

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties, the web represented exactly that kind of opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>We see the same stuff happening today with stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>cryptocurrency and n f T s. Now, I don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>to say that all crypto is just a scam, or

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<v Speaker 1>even that all n f T s are a scam.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I am saying is that when people are

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<v Speaker 1>eager to pour their money into something they don't fully comprehend,

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<v Speaker 1>there will be plenty of other folks who are just

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<v Speaker 1>willing to take said money. And Finney was one of

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<v Speaker 1>those folks. Now, to his credit, he did actually put

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<v Speaker 1>together a team of engineers who were legitimately trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make the vision of Pixelon work, even if they ended

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<v Speaker 1>up leaning very heavily on other companies products to do it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of makes me think of para no nos.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the feeling that Elizabeth Holmes had a fairly

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<v Speaker 1>good idea towards the end, that her vision of a

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<v Speaker 1>device capable of running more than a hundred medical tests

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<v Speaker 1>on the tiniest drop of blood wasn't really likely, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not even possible. Uh. She certainly didn't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>make it actually happen, but she did have a whole

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<v Speaker 1>company filled with engineers who were trying really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>make that vision come true. They just couldn't do it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Pixelon was in a similar place, only

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Elizabeth Holmes might have been a bit more sincere

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<v Speaker 1>in her initial effort. Maybe her earliest days were based

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<v Speaker 1>more on naivete rather than you know, just a cold

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<v Speaker 1>calculated approach to scamming people out their money. But finn

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<v Speaker 1>a slash Stanley feels like it was more on the

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<v Speaker 1>let's get as much cash as we can approach. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe Finney believed it too. But eventually authorities

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<v Speaker 1>in Virginia sussed out that the Michael Finney in California

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<v Speaker 1>was in fact the David Kim Stanley who was wanted

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 1>in places like Virginia and Tennessee. So they called him

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<v Speaker 1>up and they told them they were onto him, and

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<v Speaker 1>he would subsequently turn himself into the authorities. Now, as

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<v Speaker 1>you might imagine, this sent some shock waves through Pixelon,

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<v Speaker 1>even though he had already left Pixelon or been forced

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:38.159
<v Speaker 1>to leave. Finding out that your founder wasn't who he

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<v Speaker 1>said he was is a bit surprising. I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>that at least some people were not surprised that he

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 1>had been involved in illegal stuff, but they might have

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<v Speaker 1>been surprised to learn that he wasn't Michael Finney. Now,

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:53.919
<v Speaker 1>if Finney had just been an overenthusiastic but naive founder

0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>who had made some really questionable calls, Pixelon might have survived.

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<v Speaker 1>But the revelation and that he was a wanted fugitive

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and had a history of running scams. Was obviously a

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>big strike against the company. People were worried that maybe

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 1>he had stolen money from the company he had apparently

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 1>been demanding that he be paid out of like the

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Petty cash fund. Anyway, Pixelon would possibly have recovered from

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 1>it if he had just been a well meaning but

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<v Speaker 1>inept founder. But the company also had to face another

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:30.480
<v Speaker 1>big challenge. It turned out that Pixelon owed several different

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 1>parties a significant amount of money and shares of stock.

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<v Speaker 1>So there were vendors that had done work on the

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<v Speaker 1>office space they were owed cash, there were consultants who

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<v Speaker 1>were promised shares of stock and returned from their work,

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:46.200
<v Speaker 1>and Pixelon was facing creditors who just wanted to get paid.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole situation was unsustainable. While under other circumstances, the

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Pixelon team might have been able to get a working

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<v Speaker 1>system up and running and make it a reliable one

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<v Speaker 1>and perhaps even become YouTube before YouTube was a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it all came crashing down. The investors booted the management team,

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<v Speaker 1>and Pixelon went into Chapter eleven bankruptcy, effectively disappearing in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand one. As for Michael finn a slash David

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<v Speaker 1>kim Stanley. I'm not entirely certain what happened to him

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 1>after he turned himself in. He has a YouTube channel

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 1>which was established I think in eleven as maybe a

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 1>dozen video clips in it, some of them dating to

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:29.639
<v Speaker 1>the days when he was a piano player and his

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:32.919
<v Speaker 1>father's church back in the late eighties. There's also the

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>star Trek promo spot that Pixelon did for Paramount on

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>that channel. But yeah, I don't know how his legal

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>issues ultimately resolved. If you happen to know, you know,

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 1>give me a shout out. Let me know, because I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, if you want to see a dramatic

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 1>retelling of the events of Pixelon, um not necessarily a

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<v Speaker 1>accurate retelling, but an entertaining one. National Geographic did a

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>series a couple of years ago called Valley of the Boom,

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>which follows multiple threads during the dot com boom days,

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and one of them is the story of Michael Finney

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:19.400
<v Speaker 1>and pixel On and Steve's on Blaze Michael Finney. So

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 1>you should check that out if you're really curious to

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:27.360
<v Speaker 1>see a dramatization of this tale, because it's again pretty entertaining.

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Robert Fellman actually said that he felt that the other threads,

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:36.120
<v Speaker 1>the ones that followed Stuff like Netscape, were perhaps more

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>accurate than the pixel on version, but still something to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, check out if you haven't seen it before.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's set for this episode. If you have suggestions

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<v Speaker 1>for future topics session tackle on tech Stuff, reach out

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<v Speaker 1>to me. The handle for the show on Twitter is

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff h s W and I'll talk to you

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