Speaker 1: Hey, the folks. In this episode, Robes and I go
Speaker 1: to Steph Curry's house to see Sabrina Carpenter. Also, we
Speaker 1: sincerely are asking for your help define dates for two
Speaker 1: of our favorite ladies. Plus, we couldn't believe what a
Speaker 1: fellow passenger said to us on our flight this weekend.
Speaker 1: We were shocked and flattered. Also, we take a crazy
Speaker 1: ride across the Golden Gate Bridge this weekend in a
Speaker 1: sprinter van with nine oh two one zero, Bachelor Nation
Speaker 1: and iHeartRadio all well represented in that van. And finally,
Speaker 1: which would you prefer live life to the fullest but
Speaker 1: die younger or live longer but maybe not to the fullest?
Speaker 1: And with that we welcome you to this episode of
Speaker 1: Amy and TJ. That question there about living longer or
Speaker 1: shorter was prompted Robes by something you and I had
Speaker 1: been talking about and then something you said to me.
Speaker 1: Because we are wearing ourselves out here lately.
Speaker 2: It feels, yes, we have not been doing a great
Speaker 2: job at time management, but we've been so excited about
Speaker 2: getting back and being back and being a part of
Speaker 2: the conversation. And so yes, we went from doing nothing
Speaker 2: to having or at least oftentimes putting out eight podcasts
Speaker 2: a week, and that's just we love our iHeart team.
Speaker 2: They're amazing and helping us getting it up and booking
Speaker 2: some of our amazing guests. But for the most part,
Speaker 2: by and large, we are the producers, the writers, the editors,
Speaker 2: and the talent. And so we haven't been sleeping a lot,
Speaker 2: and we've been traveling a ton. Put those two things together,
Speaker 2: that is a very exciting, full purposeful life, but one
Speaker 2: where we aren't maybe taking as good of care of
Speaker 2: ourselves as we should have or could be.
Speaker 1: I don't want to tell it we're complaining. Oh, I
Speaker 1: don't want to sound like I'm complaining. Now I've said
Speaker 1: this to you the other day. You know, it has
Speaker 1: to get to a certain point for me to say this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop dead, right And I said that not
Speaker 1: obviously not joking. Actually I said it when I was
Speaker 1: I think I hadn't slept. I think that was election night.
Speaker 1: I didn't sleep at all the night of the election.
Speaker 1: A lot of folks go through. But we just have
Speaker 1: been wearing ourselves out with travel and saying yes to
Speaker 1: more things. We just say be saying yes too.
Speaker 2: Oh, and there marathons in there too, a couple of
Speaker 2: marathons sprinkled in there.
Speaker 1: You mentioned it. So this, this has been our past
Speaker 1: two months. Every single weekend, Atlantic City, Athens, Georgia, Chicago, Seville, Spain, Fadville, Arkansas,
Speaker 1: San Francisco, two marathons, seven to eight shows a week.
Speaker 1: That's all we've done since September.
Speaker 2: I'm exhausted just hearing you say that. But it really
Speaker 2: it comes to the price. And we've always lived fast
Speaker 2: lives and we've always worked hard and played hard. That
Speaker 2: has always been what I have done. But you do
Speaker 2: start to worry, especially someone who is a cancer survivor,
Speaker 2: that it could take a bigger toll than we expect.
Speaker 2: And so we asked. I asked the question, you know,
Speaker 2: would you rather live life the way we're living it
Speaker 2: and maybe not have those final ten years, maybe not
Speaker 2: have those final five years. Who's to say? You don't know,
Speaker 2: but I have always lived my life kind of being
Speaker 2: okay with those odds.
Speaker 1: Okay, say now we say the last ten years, if
Speaker 1: it means you won't have the last ten years of
Speaker 1: your life, A lot of people can hear that and go, well,
Speaker 1: those last ten years are going I'm not gonna be
Speaker 1: vibrant anyway. But if you had to put it this way,
Speaker 1: seventy five or ninety, right, that's a big fifteen year gap.
Speaker 1: Seventy five isn't that.
Speaker 2: Old, It's not at all.
Speaker 1: So what would you take living a life that's full
Speaker 1: to its fullest, taking those risks, taking those trips, wearing
Speaker 1: yourself out for the sake of a good time. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: but and everything we've been doing this is we're doing
Speaker 1: this voluntarily. Yes, nobody's making us do anything, but we're
Speaker 1: taking it all on. But if you knew it was
Speaker 1: going to cost, you're gonna life is going to end,
Speaker 1: it's seventy five versus ninety, would that change how you
Speaker 1: were living?
Speaker 2: Well? I think that's the question we were asking ourselves,
Speaker 2: or at least I was asking myself and hearing you
Speaker 2: and seeing you really you know, I do. I do
Speaker 2: make a point to sleep at least probably two hours
Speaker 2: more a night than you do. I would say, But
Speaker 2: I've been making that choice because I'm aware and you're
Speaker 2: aware of how we live now affects how you're going
Speaker 2: to feel later and how long you might be able
Speaker 2: to live later. And so I've been making the choice
Speaker 2: to yes, live perhaps more fully than is recommended, knowing
Speaker 2: that I might be costing myself years. On the backside, I'm.
Speaker 1: Going to use two of your quotes. Oh no, two things.
Speaker 1: Oh now, and when you said that I did, I
Speaker 1: picked up my phone. I took a note. This is
Speaker 1: how you put it. This is one of them. Quote
Speaker 1: I would rather live even if that excessive living takes
Speaker 1: away the last years of my life. Okay, that's reasonable.
Speaker 1: The other says, enjoy the hell out of it, even
Speaker 1: it kills me a little bit earlier than it would have.
Speaker 2: Okay. So there's my answers when without thinking about it,
Speaker 2: without being prompted, that is where my brain is.
Speaker 1: And your doctor and your mama, upon hearing what I
Speaker 1: just wrote, are going to probably message you or call
Speaker 1: you because.
Speaker 2: There's no probably about that might. No, my mom has
Speaker 2: been on to me since the moment. I can't remember
Speaker 2: a time where this wasn't what my mom said to me, Amy,
Speaker 2: please slow down. She has said that to me my
Speaker 2: entire life. Even when I was fighting cancer. The first
Speaker 2: thing I did was go to my oncologists and say,
Speaker 2: but can I still go to Sochi, Russia and cover
Speaker 2: the Olympics? And my parents sat me down like they
Speaker 2: were doing a drug intervention on me because I was
Speaker 2: maybe I am addicted to the life.
Speaker 1: Well, some of that is personality driven. Some of that
Speaker 1: was driven by the business that we're in. It's kind
Speaker 1: of sometimes the mindset you have to have of always saying, yes,
Speaker 1: go go, go, go go. I can be the go
Speaker 1: to person you use the quote from Oscar Wild in
Speaker 1: our Morning Run to live is the rarest thing in
Speaker 1: the world. Most people exist, that is all. That's something
Speaker 1: that sounds so sad about that to each his or
Speaker 1: her own about how they want to go about the life.
Speaker 1: A quieter life, a calmer life, A I don't need
Speaker 1: to be traveling and taking risks and doing all these
Speaker 1: things just to be surrounded by family. That's still a
Speaker 1: full in camera.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful life. Yes, And I actually envy, like
Speaker 2: I don't want to sound patronizing at all, because I
Speaker 2: do not mean it that way. I actually envy the
Speaker 2: ability to feel satiated. And I have gotten more like
Speaker 2: this than I was before. But just for things to
Speaker 2: be enough, you don't you're not on a constant chase
Speaker 2: for something else or for something more, for something new,
Speaker 2: or something different, and yes, you found an amazing quote
Speaker 2: that I've heard before that perhaps we both have chosen
Speaker 2: to live back.
Speaker 1: No, we were in the middle of this conversation and
Speaker 1: chatting about this, and the first thing that came to mind.
Speaker 1: I cannot remember. I did a story in New Mexico.
Speaker 1: This had to be at least five or probably six, seven,
Speaker 1: eight years ago, and I was in this family's home
Speaker 1: and talking about something completely unrelated. And I'm sitting in
Speaker 1: the kitchen and look up and they have this sign
Speaker 1: on the wall. And it struck me so much at
Speaker 1: the time that I took a picture of it, and
Speaker 1: it stays in my phone, and it's there right now.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll read it. It says life should not
Speaker 2: be a journey to the grave with the intention of
Speaker 2: arriving safely in an attractive, well preserved body, but rather
Speaker 2: to skid in sideways body thoroughly used up, totally worn out,
Speaker 2: screaming woohoo, what a ride. So if you noticed it,
Speaker 2: made a note of it, took a picture, It's in
Speaker 2: your phone. I'm looking at it right now. You live
Speaker 2: by this mantra as well, and I think maybe it's
Speaker 2: part of the reason why there's always been like this
Speaker 2: electricity between us because we both have that same way
Speaker 2: of living.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing's guaranteed and tomorrow. I just I hate saying
Speaker 1: no to opportunities based on I'm a little under the weather,
Speaker 1: Oh I'm a little tired. Oh why and just we
Speaker 1: get and we've been blessed in this life to do
Speaker 1: more than most and the places we've gotten to go
Speaker 1: and people we've gotten to see. But it's I have
Speaker 1: a difficult time passing up opportunity because it just as
Speaker 1: the older we get. I mean, how many times if
Speaker 1: we had an experience that whow I meant to message
Speaker 1: him just the other day, and now I don't get
Speaker 1: a chance because a friend passed away or that's been
Speaker 1: happening more and more in our lives. Yeah, there's some
Speaker 1: balance we have to find between health and that happiness. Right.
Speaker 2: Well, the older you get, the more seventy five seems
Speaker 2: really young, you know, And I think when you're in
Speaker 2: your thirties you can say oh please, I'd be fine.
Speaker 2: I don't need to when you're you know, we have
Speaker 2: been spending time with folks in their seventies, and our
Speaker 2: parents are in their seventies and they're a vibrant My
Speaker 2: dad ran the Berlin Marathon at sixty nine. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's so much that you can contribute. And yes, I
Speaker 2: want my parents to be around for me and for
Speaker 2: my children for as long as possible. So you don't
Speaker 2: want to be selfish in that either, because you obviously
Speaker 2: know there are beautiful relationships to be had in a
Speaker 2: way you couldn't have them when you get older.
Speaker 1: That was part of the thinking and the calculation for
Speaker 1: a trip we just went on this weekend. This was
Speaker 1: one we could have possibly say, you know, we're just
Speaker 1: gonna take it easy. We're just gonna take a nap
Speaker 1: this weekend and just do nothing. But instead we ended
Speaker 1: up parting our butts off all weekend long. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: we went out to San Francisco. But this trip we
Speaker 1: knew about. We can't. We're sitting here now, only a
Speaker 1: week remove from running in New York City Marathon. After
Speaker 1: we ran that marathon. What five days we got on
Speaker 1: the cross country flight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and five days earlier we had been on an
Speaker 2: international trans continental flight from Spain seeing.
Speaker 1: The little one over there, your little one, I should say.
Speaker 1: But the trip to San Francisco, this I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think we were just so exhausted that there was
Speaker 1: a moment I said, sweetheart, I don't want to go.
Speaker 1: Let's to cancel this trip. I was exhausted.
Speaker 2: And that's so rare for you, because you're someone who says,
Speaker 2: basically without saying it, you just do it. I'll sleep
Speaker 2: when I die. You will do anything to just still
Speaker 2: be up and be a part of things, whether it's
Speaker 2: watching something or anything other than sleeping.
Speaker 1: You all used to think I was crazy all the
Speaker 1: time I would come in. I used to I stayed up. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's fine, but I will stay up late to watch
Speaker 1: a game and I say this is not the boys
Speaker 1: supporting game in the world. That okay, fine. But then
Speaker 1: the next morning I get up, I'm all excited, saying,
Speaker 1: let me tell you what you missed, right, it was
Speaker 1: a seven overtime game, or it was a walk off
Speaker 1: field goals or walk there's always some bit of history.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it happens, and I hate every getting up in
Speaker 1: the morning, I think I missed something.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Well yeah, and you rarely do, except
Speaker 2: for sleep, which is super important. Yeah, last night I
Speaker 2: believe I went to bed there was some tie twenty
Speaker 2: three to twenty three. I was like, yeah, let me
Speaker 2: know what happens in the morning.
Speaker 1: You make a good I didn't even think you're right
Speaker 1: that game exactly. We got off a flight that landed
Speaker 1: it to thirty, came here from JFK, exhausted after a
Speaker 1: cross country.
Speaker 2: We got back at eleven PM, got back in at eleven.
Speaker 2: I went straight to bed.
Speaker 1: And I went straight to that game, which was tied
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and you know how it was won
Speaker 1: on a walk off field. It was so yes, I'm
Speaker 1: glad I stayed up.
Speaker 2: We all have made our choices. I'm so happy I slept.
Speaker 1: But that trip is one. So we end up going
Speaker 1: to San Francisco, and we had some exciting things we
Speaker 1: were planning on doing. But we get on our flight
Speaker 1: and this was a really, really nice moment. We were
Speaker 1: on off flight, folks started to board. Everybody's passing and
Speaker 1: this is kind of one of our favorite pastimes to
Speaker 1: board the flight early and then just you know, do
Speaker 1: some people watching?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure people are watching us too sometimes
Speaker 2: as they walk on. And we've been greeted many different
Speaker 2: ways and usually very sweetly, but this was a first
Speaker 2: for us. We're sitting there and a woman walks up
Speaker 2: and she points to us. She recognizes us, which isn't
Speaker 2: that unusual, but what she said was a first. She
Speaker 2: said looking at us and said, morning Run my favorite,
Speaker 2: and that was everything. Normally we'll get oh, we miss
Speaker 2: you on TV or you know, some reference to being
Speaker 2: on Good Morning America and about the podcast, yeah with
Speaker 2: Amy and TJ. We love your podcast. But this was
Speaker 2: the first time, and we've really been working hard and
Speaker 2: part of our lack of sleep has been specifically tied
Speaker 2: to getting up early and working on this morning Run.
Speaker 2: By the time we get it out to everyone, we've
Speaker 2: been up for three hours working on it and the
Speaker 2: night before. So just to hear someone recognize that and
Speaker 2: listen to the Morning Run, it absolutely made my whole weekend.
Speaker 2: Actually it did.
Speaker 1: You reacted to it.
Speaker 2: I was so happy.
Speaker 1: I thought it was sweet. And the ladies. Also in Arkansas,
Speaker 1: when we were on a run there, a group of
Speaker 1: five women were running past me and just started waving
Speaker 1: their arms as they were We were passing each other,
Speaker 1: running in opposite directions, and they were hooting and hollering
Speaker 1: about the Morning Run as well. I kept running. I
Speaker 1: guess I should have stopped and talked to them about it.
Speaker 1: But those I mean, that's one woman who say one
Speaker 1: thing to us on the flight and has no idea
Speaker 1: the kind of impact it has. She has no idea
Speaker 1: the hours we put in. She has no idea how
Speaker 1: big of a staff we have.
Speaker 2: She had had no clue staff of two.
Speaker 1: What we had been going. And you know what that
Speaker 1: morning as well, William, Damn you remember Friday morning, But
Speaker 1: we had to get up and do I'm heading over
Speaker 1: to the school. I have to watch a whole dance
Speaker 1: and musical performance. That's the being school. Yep. We switched
Speaker 1: our flights around so that I could stick around and
Speaker 1: make sure we made that. We are just it's constant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's fun and it's great and it's fulfilling, but
Speaker 1: we're exhausted, and I worry that something's going to have
Speaker 1: to give, and I hope it's not our health.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, obviously that would not be what we would
Speaker 2: want to do, and I think we will. We're trying
Speaker 2: to make tweaks and adjustments in our schedule. But to
Speaker 2: the point you're making, when we love getting on planes.
Speaker 2: It's something that we loved doing when we had work trips,
Speaker 2: but it was just like, yeah, let's have fun. We'll
Speaker 2: have like fun conversations and like background movies. Up. We
Speaker 2: fell asleep, at least I fell asleep on that plane,
Speaker 2: which I hardly ever do. For almost the entire flight,
Speaker 2: which spoke volumes about where we were.
Speaker 1: We alternated. I was awake watching you sleep, you were
Speaker 1: awake watching me sleep. And flights are We were talking
Speaker 1: to somebody recently about date nights. Our biggest dates are
Speaker 1: our flights. We travel so much and when we get
Speaker 1: on a plane, we know we're not going to be bothered. Finally,
Speaker 1: we can't take phone calls. Sometimes we don't even get
Speaker 1: the full Wi Fi to get emails. We just do
Speaker 1: the messaging and nobody around is going to be met.
Speaker 1: You around people, but they can't really mess with you.
Speaker 1: And it is I love flying with you, So for
Speaker 1: us to give up a date night to sleep, that's
Speaker 1: a big deal.
Speaker 2: Yes, we have to do better. I'm doing a little
Speaker 2: bit better than you, but that's always been the case
Speaker 2: with the sleep, and I'm actually curious we should do
Speaker 2: a podcast on this. You've always been a believer that
Speaker 2: not everybody needs the same amount of sleep, that one
Speaker 2: size does not fit all, and you believe you need
Speaker 2: about four five hours.
Speaker 1: Generally, doctors tell me that's bs that we all do
Speaker 1: need a certain amount of sleep. I start to get
Speaker 1: impacted if I get less than four. But if I
Speaker 1: get four hours, I get a solid four, then I'm
Speaker 1: you know, you see my behavior and see how I function.
Speaker 2: I'm good to go, which is insane to me.
Speaker 1: Okay, I get the four if I get the four.
Speaker 1: But we were heading to California. It was a work thing.
Speaker 1: We had some business to tend to out there with
Speaker 1: our iHeart folks, but a part of it was that
Speaker 1: we were going to be going to the Chase Center
Speaker 1: out there in San Francisco, which I had not been
Speaker 1: to yet. But it's the home of the Golden State Warriors, beautiful,
Speaker 1: brand new place. I covered the Warriors for years, went
Speaker 1: to five NBA Finals covering Stephan Crue. So I finally
Speaker 1: get to the warriors new.
Speaker 2: Home to see Sabrina Carf. She Grammy nominated, you know,
Speaker 2: a huge, huge, probably one of the biggest singers now
Speaker 2: out there. But we're just not necessarily folks who listened
Speaker 2: to her music. So we were exposed to a whole
Speaker 2: new pop star. And it is funny. I don't know
Speaker 2: if anyone's ever been to a concert, maybe you've taken
Speaker 2: your kids to a concert where you're not really that
Speaker 2: familiar with the music, but everyone else is. And to
Speaker 2: watch everyone just go gaga over her, know every word
Speaker 2: to every song that I had never heard before in
Speaker 2: my life.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. We we know a couple, the latest
Speaker 1: one Espresso is the one we know. But it was
Speaker 1: incredible to see looks Brenan Carpenter. Clearly we've seen her
Speaker 1: at the jingle Ball, I think, right, we know her
Speaker 1: perform once before the jingle Ball. We didn't know what
Speaker 1: to expect with this young lady and I was I
Speaker 1: was just taking a bag and I see, I guess
Speaker 1: you see this with young fans of a lot of
Speaker 1: pop stars. But how must that feel? The entire arena
Speaker 1: was singing every I think we were the only two
Speaker 1: people not singing every single word right to her songs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean you could see this is she
Speaker 2: and she's young, and she's she owned the stage and
Speaker 2: it was we had fun with the folks backstage, or
Speaker 2: at least with us who probably were in the same
Speaker 2: boat as us, because we were all of a certain age.
Speaker 2: We had some of our iHeart podcasters, fellow podcasters who
Speaker 2: we some of whom we've met, one of whom we
Speaker 2: had not Jenny Garth, who we actually do a podcast
Speaker 2: with I do Part two, we've only actually met via zoom,
Speaker 2: So it was fun to get to meet people in person.
Speaker 2: And her husband and of course the Golden Bachelorette girls.
Speaker 2: We've met them before, but we had extra time with
Speaker 2: them and it was really awesome to be able to
Speaker 2: just share the experiences of what we've all been going
Speaker 2: through as podcasters but just as humans. It was fun.
Speaker 1: San Francisco, you're all familiar with Scilito.
Speaker 2: Wait, yes, Salito.
Speaker 1: We know it's Sauce Allito. I lived out there for
Speaker 1: three years. Actually I know it's Sauce Alito. But last
Speaker 1: year we took a trip that included Sayulita in Mexico,
Speaker 1: so we keep messing this up, so we are being
Speaker 1: very careful when we say Sauce Aleto. But we stayed.
Speaker 1: It's gorgeous. It has the best view of San Francisco,
Speaker 1: I think in all the Bay Area over there. But
Speaker 1: we all stayed at the same place and to get
Speaker 1: to the Chase Center. We had to load up in
Speaker 1: a van with these folks and head across the Golden
Speaker 1: Gate Bridge to the Chase Center.
Speaker 2: Sounds easy, sounds quick.
Speaker 1: It wasn't easy. It wasn't quick, and it wasn't quiet.
Speaker 2: Yes, it became a bit of a party van. There
Speaker 2: was some Sabrina Carpenter songs being played just to kind
Speaker 2: of get us in the mood. And yes, that lovely
Speaker 2: San Francisco Friday night traffic bit us And I think
Speaker 2: it took us an hour and a half to go.
Speaker 2: How many miles maybe just a few, maybe four or
Speaker 2: five miles. Yes, but we did eventually get there, and
Speaker 2: TJ was not in his element.
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that?
Speaker 2: I don't think you're a big fan of rowdy bus
Speaker 2: or van trips in any way, shape or format.
Speaker 1: Other people are.
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, it gets you in the mood. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's fun.
Speaker 1: Did I mention I'd been awake for twenty out correct?
Speaker 2: There's a couple of pictures, Well, there were a lot
Speaker 2: of pictures being taken that you also love taking selfies
Speaker 2: and it was so funny to watch selfies being taken
Speaker 2: and you being asked to participate in you having to
Speaker 2: say yes, because it wasn't just me asking, it was Susan.
Speaker 1: We love Susan. Susan Knowles from the Golan Bachelor. She
Speaker 1: was competed on that, but she was trying to take
Speaker 1: this selfie in a dark van so hard she took
Speaker 1: at least fifteen.
Speaker 2: Right, I posted the one successful. No, she did get
Speaker 2: one successful, and she sent it to me. I posted
Speaker 2: it on my Instagram because it was after all that
Speaker 2: work and all those attempts, I felt like I needed
Speaker 2: to at least pay homage to the fact that she
Speaker 2: got one good one in and look.
Speaker 1: So this was the whole trip is loud, it's hard,
Speaker 1: It just where is this place? Can we get there?
Speaker 1: I think I finally was able to doze off before
Speaker 1: getting through the Oh.
Speaker 2: You did, I did? Okay, yeah, yep, yes. And you
Speaker 2: know when when you're sleeping on planes and vans that
Speaker 2: maybe perhaps you should focus more on sleeping in your
Speaker 2: bed at some point this week. So we didn't even sleep.
Speaker 2: You slept you I don't even know if you slept.
Speaker 2: You were on the couch last night, but you know,
Speaker 2: I hate I'm.
Speaker 1: Sorry, and please know, anybody that tries to take a
Speaker 1: negative headline out, Oh, yes, I slept on the couch.
Speaker 1: Call was watching a game and I didn't want to
Speaker 1: disturb my love by having the TV on and the
Speaker 1: refereeze whistle and the cheering while she's trying to sleep.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I appreciated that. Yes, that's a good
Speaker 2: important clarification because I know that clickbaits always. I think
Speaker 2: there was one we were talking about a very similar
Speaker 2: situation one night, and I think it said that I
Speaker 2: kicked you out of bed, and that was just like
Speaker 2: a way for someone to click. But it was hilarious
Speaker 2: because you wanted to watch a game. They just took
Speaker 2: something about us you going to the couch that somehow
Speaker 2: I kicked you out of bed and such a rediculouses.
Speaker 2: That was one of my favorite headlines. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 2: think I passed that along to you sharing now.
Speaker 1: Thank you sweetness, but it was. It was. And Susan
Speaker 1: Susan Knowles and Kathy Schwartz are the two who they
Speaker 1: have a podcast now with iHeart as well. But they
Speaker 1: are two ladies that we first got to meet last
Speaker 1: year in LA They actually crashed one of our podcast
Speaker 1: recordings and we just had a great time with them
Speaker 1: getting to know them a little more this time around.
Speaker 1: They are two of the most original people I guess
Speaker 1: I've ever been been around, and to see their friendship
Speaker 1: and how they play off each other is really fun
Speaker 1: to be heround I.
Speaker 2: Have so enjoyed getting to know them both more. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I think Susan was quick to say she
Speaker 2: wasn't quite the same age as Kathy, But Kathy's seventy one,
Speaker 2: and these are vibrant, vibrant women who have so much.
Speaker 2: You know, we're talking about how much you would shave
Speaker 2: off the end of your life. These women are living,
Speaker 2: and they are at an age where they're ready for
Speaker 2: their next chapter and their next man. And they were talking,
Speaker 2: and they've been talking about how difficult it is when
Speaker 2: you're a woman and they have means. They're not looking
Speaker 2: for a sugar daddy or someone to financially take care
Speaker 2: of them. They really just want a wonderful companion to
Speaker 2: do all the fun things they still have left to give.
Speaker 2: Their children are grown, their grandchildren are even grown in
Speaker 2: some cases, so they want to go out and be
Speaker 2: a part of things, and they want a partner to
Speaker 2: do it with. I understand that, but they point out,
Speaker 2: you know, if you have another man who is around
Speaker 2: your age and he has means he's going younger. He
Speaker 2: is not looking for someone who is of the same age,
Speaker 2: and it's frustrating and it's tough because there really aren't
Speaker 2: a lot of options. They said, two years, neither one
Speaker 2: of them have had one date.
Speaker 1: See that through me. I didn't know that because they're
Speaker 1: always putting themselves out there. I thought they were bouncing
Speaker 1: around and they that was wild to hear, but it's
Speaker 1: I know, I didn't see them on The Golden Bachelor
Speaker 1: at all. I think Kathy made it to the next
Speaker 1: of the last final role of ceremony or something. She says,
Speaker 1: all right, but anyway, they clearly we're looking for love
Speaker 1: and looking today. I did not know this. She says.
Speaker 1: She was the villain on the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's Yeah, there's a name for it. When you
Speaker 2: get like edited as the villain. It's the villain edit.
Speaker 1: Maybe, But it was wild to think that, because of
Speaker 1: the way we have gotten to know her one on
Speaker 1: one and in a personal and personable way, to think
Speaker 1: that the woman we know would ever in any context
Speaker 1: be seen as a villain through me, because she is
Speaker 1: so sweet to hear her talk about her life, her pain,
Speaker 1: her husband, his passing, where she is now, what she wants,
Speaker 1: that she wants, love, The way she looked at us,
Speaker 1: and we were with her a lot, and we were
Speaker 1: always holding hands and all over each other, the way
Speaker 1: she looked and complimented and was so it was a
Speaker 1: little heartbreaking to hear her talk about wanting that or
Speaker 1: make sure you hold on to that.
Speaker 2: Was it was tone.
Speaker 1: They're not They're not sad women in any way like that,
Speaker 1: but I was kind of my heart was breaking for
Speaker 1: them a little.
Speaker 2: I think it creates perspective, you know, especially if whatever
Speaker 2: relationship you're in her work, wherever you are relationship wise
Speaker 2: in your life. I think it's this human experience that
Speaker 2: we all want that relationship where you've got your best friend,
Speaker 2: your partner, that person you trust, and it doesn't mean
Speaker 2: that it's and I kept saying, and she was being
Speaker 2: very sweet about our relationship, and I said, please, it's
Speaker 2: not always perfect, but you know, we have fought hard
Speaker 2: to be where we are. And it was just another
Speaker 2: reminder not to take that for granted. And I think
Speaker 2: anyone who's in a relationship, of course, it's not going
Speaker 2: to be perfect. Of course, there are ups and downs
Speaker 2: and you might need to find, you know, the right person,
Speaker 2: the friendship that maybe you're missing, and I just think
Speaker 2: we all long for that and supporting each other to
Speaker 2: help each other find it is such a big part
Speaker 2: of what we do in life. I mean, isn't that
Speaker 2: what you think of the most? I mean, no matter
Speaker 2: what success you've had in your life, no matter where
Speaker 2: you've been, or the adventures you've had, or how full
Speaker 2: your life is, if you don't have that meaningful partner,
Speaker 2: for a lot of people, and I would definitely put
Speaker 2: myself on this camp, that's what matters the most. It's
Speaker 2: above all else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people want to say I don't need anybody to
Speaker 1: be happy, and I get that nobody needs it, but
Speaker 1: it's just we're human. Be crave it you do as
Speaker 1: a human being. You just that companionship. That friend is
Speaker 1: certainly older in life and to go through it in life.
Speaker 1: They're having so much fun together and getting to do
Speaker 1: all kinds of new things and they're excited about and
Speaker 1: that one thing they go.
Speaker 2: Back to is just it's someone to share it with.
Speaker 1: And Kathy is hilarious. If you ever meet her. The
Speaker 1: second thing out of her mouth is going to be
Speaker 1: asking you if you've got a friend or.
Speaker 2: A brother an uncle. The next thing's just god. I
Speaker 2: love those ladies. I love that they're putting themselves out
Speaker 2: there too and saying, hey, I want this, because I
Speaker 2: think so many of us if you don't have it
Speaker 2: and say you don't need it, or you know you're
Speaker 2: over it, or you've been there, done that. But no,
Speaker 2: they're being vulnerable and they're saying no, we actually want this,
Speaker 2: and so yeah, whatever we can do. Listeners out there,
Speaker 2: you know, anyone, and we're serious.
Speaker 1: You're all. Susan Knowles, Kathy Schwartz are the names, and
Speaker 1: Knowles and Kathy's sports. I can't remember the name of
Speaker 1: their podcast they do.
Speaker 2: I think it's called Golden Hour, but.
Speaker 1: They were on this season of The Golden Bachelor and
Speaker 1: they are out there looking for love and they've put
Speaker 1: themselves out there and they are hilarious and wonderful and
Speaker 1: energetic ladies. And to Kathy, you remember Rues made the
Speaker 1: point I'm seventy one and I have all this energy.
Speaker 1: Another seventy one year old person has a difficult time
Speaker 1: keeping up with me. Yeah, she does. She says, she
Speaker 1: can go and go hard. So if you all want
Speaker 1: to reach out to them, or know somebody and want
Speaker 1: to make a connection, or maybe you're listening and you
Speaker 1: would like to reach out to these two ladies. They
Speaker 1: are absolutely wonderful and we are rooting for them, and
Speaker 1: we are pulling for them, and we are now actively
Speaker 1: engaged and trying to find somebody for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just so you know, their official podcast name
Speaker 2: is Bachelor Happy Hour Golden Hour. It's perfect. But they
Speaker 2: are a hoot and we're rooting for them. All right.
Speaker 1: Well, folks, we appreciate you all listening to us as
Speaker 1: all romes. We are going to get a handle on
Speaker 1: this schedule of ours. We are not having to travel
Speaker 1: until early December, so we have not having to get
Speaker 1: on a plane, I should say, yeah, until.
Speaker 2: We have a couple of road trip plans. Yes, road
Speaker 2: trips planned.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's okay to stay on solid ground for a
Speaker 1: little while. But it has been great. It's been fun.
Speaker 1: And thank you to our listeners. We appreciate not just
Speaker 1: seeing you all out in public, but we're seeing it
Speaker 1: out in other places to where what we're doing in
Speaker 1: the work, we're putting in is resonating in some way
Speaker 1: with our listeners, and that is something we appreciate. Never
Speaker 1: could imagine we'd be in this position. But it's fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: had a good time.
Speaker 2: I'm a little tired, but there's no there's no one
Speaker 2: I'd rather lose sleep for than you. With you. How
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 1: You want to try it one more time?
Speaker 2: Did I say it wrong?
Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying you say anything wrong, but I
Speaker 1: just want to make sure that's what you meant to say.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, that's another podcast, you know what. That'll be
Speaker 2: a good tease. I think one of the next few
Speaker 2: podcasts we're going to put out there is this notion
Speaker 2: it's the cult and like men are from Mars, women
Speaker 2: are from Venus where I don't know, ladies, if you're
Speaker 2: the same as me. But I've tried to explain that
Speaker 2: what I say, oh boy, literally isn't necessarily always what
Speaker 2: I mean figuratively or emotionally, and so I've been trying
Speaker 2: to help with the translations.
Speaker 1: And so I don't put any emotion into what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and if I said it, that is literally what I meant, right,
Speaker 1: And this makes it difficult to go back and forth
Speaker 1: in conversations.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I am the opposite.
Speaker 1: And now I've been joking with you a little bit.
Speaker 1: Now I have been joking a little bit. You'll say
Speaker 1: something I don't like, or you say whatever I say.
Speaker 1: I know you didn't really mean that, because I have
Speaker 1: to interpret and read between the lines.
Speaker 2: And that goes over so well with me. All Right,
Speaker 2: we'll say that for another podcast. You all can enjoy
Speaker 2: your week and live your life to the fullest.