1 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Hey, the folks. In this episode, Robes and I go 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: to Steph Curry's house to see Sabrina Carpenter. Also, we 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: sincerely are asking for your help define dates for two 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: of our favorite ladies. Plus, we couldn't believe what a 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: fellow passenger said to us on our flight this weekend. 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: We were shocked and flattered. Also, we take a crazy 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: ride across the Golden Gate Bridge this weekend in a 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: sprinter van with nine oh two one zero, Bachelor Nation 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: and iHeartRadio all well represented in that van. And finally, 10 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: which would you prefer live life to the fullest but 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: die younger or live longer but maybe not to the fullest? 12 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: And with that we welcome you to this episode of 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: Amy and TJ. That question there about living longer or 14 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: shorter was prompted Robes by something you and I had 15 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: been talking about and then something you said to me. 16 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: Because we are wearing ourselves out here lately. 17 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: It feels, yes, we have not been doing a great 18 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: job at time management, but we've been so excited about 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: getting back and being back and being a part of 20 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: the conversation. And so yes, we went from doing nothing 21 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: to having or at least oftentimes putting out eight podcasts 22 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: a week, and that's just we love our iHeart team. 23 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: They're amazing and helping us getting it up and booking 24 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: some of our amazing guests. But for the most part, 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: by and large, we are the producers, the writers, the editors, 26 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 2: and the talent. And so we haven't been sleeping a lot, 27 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: and we've been traveling a ton. Put those two things together, 28 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: that is a very exciting, full purposeful life, but one 29 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: where we aren't maybe taking as good of care of 30 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: ourselves as we should have or could be. 31 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to tell it we're complaining. Oh, I 32 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: don't want to sound like I'm complaining. Now I've said 33 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: this to you the other day. You know, it has 34 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: to get to a certain point for me to say this. 35 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop dead, right And I said that not 36 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: obviously not joking. Actually I said it when I was 37 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: I think I hadn't slept. I think that was election night. 38 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: I didn't sleep at all the night of the election. 39 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: A lot of folks go through. But we just have 40 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: been wearing ourselves out with travel and saying yes to 41 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: more things. We just say be saying yes too. 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: Oh, and there marathons in there too, a couple of 43 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 2: marathons sprinkled in there. 44 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: You mentioned it. So this, this has been our past 45 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: two months. Every single weekend, Atlantic City, Athens, Georgia, Chicago, Seville, Spain, Fadville, Arkansas, 46 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: San Francisco, two marathons, seven to eight shows a week. 47 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: That's all we've done since September. 48 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: I'm exhausted just hearing you say that. But it really 49 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: it comes to the price. And we've always lived fast 50 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: lives and we've always worked hard and played hard. That 51 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: has always been what I have done. But you do 52 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: start to worry, especially someone who is a cancer survivor, 53 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: that it could take a bigger toll than we expect. 54 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: And so we asked. I asked the question, you know, 55 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: would you rather live life the way we're living it 56 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: and maybe not have those final ten years, maybe not 57 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: have those final five years. Who's to say? You don't know, 58 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 2: but I have always lived my life kind of being 59 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: okay with those odds. 60 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: Okay, say now we say the last ten years, if 61 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: it means you won't have the last ten years of 62 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: your life, A lot of people can hear that and go, well, 63 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: those last ten years are going I'm not gonna be 64 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: vibrant anyway. But if you had to put it this way, 65 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: seventy five or ninety, right, that's a big fifteen year gap. 66 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: Seventy five isn't that. 67 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: Old, It's not at all. 68 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: So what would you take living a life that's full 69 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: to its fullest, taking those risks, taking those trips, wearing 70 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: yourself out for the sake of a good time. I'm saying, 71 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: but and everything we've been doing this is we're doing 72 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: this voluntarily. Yes, nobody's making us do anything, but we're 73 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: taking it all on. But if you knew it was 74 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: going to cost, you're gonna life is going to end, 75 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: it's seventy five versus ninety, would that change how you 76 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: were living? 77 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: Well? I think that's the question we were asking ourselves, 78 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: or at least I was asking myself and hearing you 79 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: and seeing you really you know, I do. I do 80 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: make a point to sleep at least probably two hours 81 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: more a night than you do. I would say, But 82 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: I've been making that choice because I'm aware and you're 83 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: aware of how we live now affects how you're going 84 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: to feel later and how long you might be able 85 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: to live later. And so I've been making the choice 86 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: to yes, live perhaps more fully than is recommended, knowing 87 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: that I might be costing myself years. On the backside, I'm. 88 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: Going to use two of your quotes. Oh no, two things. 89 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: Oh now, and when you said that I did, I 90 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: picked up my phone. I took a note. This is 91 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: how you put it. This is one of them. Quote 92 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: I would rather live even if that excessive living takes 93 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: away the last years of my life. Okay, that's reasonable. 94 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: The other says, enjoy the hell out of it, even 95 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: it kills me a little bit earlier than it would have. 96 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: Okay. So there's my answers when without thinking about it, 97 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: without being prompted, that is where my brain is. 98 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: And your doctor and your mama, upon hearing what I 99 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: just wrote, are going to probably message you or call 100 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: you because. 101 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: There's no probably about that might. No, my mom has 102 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: been on to me since the moment. I can't remember 103 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: a time where this wasn't what my mom said to me, Amy, 104 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: please slow down. She has said that to me my 105 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: entire life. Even when I was fighting cancer. The first 106 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: thing I did was go to my oncologists and say, 107 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: but can I still go to Sochi, Russia and cover 108 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: the Olympics? And my parents sat me down like they 109 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: were doing a drug intervention on me because I was 110 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: maybe I am addicted to the life. 111 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: Well, some of that is personality driven. Some of that 112 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: was driven by the business that we're in. It's kind 113 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: of sometimes the mindset you have to have of always saying, yes, 114 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: go go, go, go go. I can be the go 115 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: to person you use the quote from Oscar Wild in 116 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: our Morning Run to live is the rarest thing in 117 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: the world. Most people exist, that is all. That's something 118 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: that sounds so sad about that to each his or 119 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: her own about how they want to go about the life. 120 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: A quieter life, a calmer life, A I don't need 121 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: to be traveling and taking risks and doing all these 122 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: things just to be surrounded by family. That's still a 123 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: full in camera. 124 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful life. Yes, And I actually envy, like 125 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: I don't want to sound patronizing at all, because I 126 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: do not mean it that way. I actually envy the 127 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: ability to feel satiated. And I have gotten more like 128 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: this than I was before. But just for things to 129 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: be enough, you don't you're not on a constant chase 130 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: for something else or for something more, for something new, 131 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: or something different, and yes, you found an amazing quote 132 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 2: that I've heard before that perhaps we both have chosen 133 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: to live back. 134 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: No, we were in the middle of this conversation and 135 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: chatting about this, and the first thing that came to mind. 136 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: I cannot remember. I did a story in New Mexico. 137 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: This had to be at least five or probably six, seven, 138 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: eight years ago, and I was in this family's home 139 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: and talking about something completely unrelated. And I'm sitting in 140 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: the kitchen and look up and they have this sign 141 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: on the wall. And it struck me so much at 142 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: the time that I took a picture of it, and 143 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: it stays in my phone, and it's there right now. 144 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: All right, I'll read it. It says life should not 145 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: be a journey to the grave with the intention of 146 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: arriving safely in an attractive, well preserved body, but rather 147 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: to skid in sideways body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, 148 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: screaming woohoo, what a ride. So if you noticed it, 149 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: made a note of it, took a picture, It's in 150 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: your phone. I'm looking at it right now. You live 151 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: by this mantra as well, and I think maybe it's 152 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: part of the reason why there's always been like this 153 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: electricity between us because we both have that same way 154 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: of living. 155 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing's guaranteed and tomorrow. I just I hate saying 156 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: no to opportunities based on I'm a little under the weather, 157 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: Oh I'm a little tired. Oh why and just we 158 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: get and we've been blessed in this life to do 159 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: more than most and the places we've gotten to go 160 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: and people we've gotten to see. But it's I have 161 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: a difficult time passing up opportunity because it just as 162 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: the older we get. I mean, how many times if 163 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: we had an experience that whow I meant to message 164 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: him just the other day, and now I don't get 165 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: a chance because a friend passed away or that's been 166 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: happening more and more in our lives. Yeah, there's some 167 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: balance we have to find between health and that happiness. Right. 168 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: Well, the older you get, the more seventy five seems 169 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: really young, you know, And I think when you're in 170 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: your thirties you can say oh please, I'd be fine. 171 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: I don't need to when you're you know, we have 172 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: been spending time with folks in their seventies, and our 173 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: parents are in their seventies and they're a vibrant My 174 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: dad ran the Berlin Marathon at sixty nine. I mean, 175 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: there's so much that you can contribute. And yes, I 176 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: want my parents to be around for me and for 177 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: my children for as long as possible. So you don't 178 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: want to be selfish in that either, because you obviously 179 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 2: know there are beautiful relationships to be had in a 180 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: way you couldn't have them when you get older. 181 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: That was part of the thinking and the calculation for 182 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: a trip we just went on this weekend. This was 183 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: one we could have possibly say, you know, we're just 184 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: gonna take it easy. We're just gonna take a nap 185 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: this weekend and just do nothing. But instead we ended 186 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: up parting our butts off all weekend long. Yeah, because 187 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: we went out to San Francisco. But this trip we 188 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: knew about. We can't. We're sitting here now, only a 189 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: week remove from running in New York City Marathon. After 190 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: we ran that marathon. What five days we got on 191 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: the cross country flight. 192 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and five days earlier we had been on an 193 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: international trans continental flight from Spain seeing. 194 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: The little one over there, your little one, I should say. 195 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: But the trip to San Francisco, this I don't know. 196 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: I think we were just so exhausted that there was 197 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: a moment I said, sweetheart, I don't want to go. 198 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: Let's to cancel this trip. I was exhausted. 199 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: And that's so rare for you, because you're someone who says, 200 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: basically without saying it, you just do it. I'll sleep 201 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: when I die. You will do anything to just still 202 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: be up and be a part of things, whether it's 203 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: watching something or anything other than sleeping. 204 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: You all used to think I was crazy all the 205 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: time I would come in. I used to I stayed up. Okay, 206 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: it's fine, but I will stay up late to watch 207 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: a game and I say this is not the boys 208 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: supporting game in the world. That okay, fine. But then 209 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: the next morning I get up, I'm all excited, saying, 210 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: let me tell you what you missed, right, it was 211 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: a seven overtime game, or it was a walk off 212 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: field goals or walk there's always some bit of history. 213 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes it happens, and I hate every getting up in 214 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: the morning, I think I missed something. 215 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Well yeah, and you rarely do, except 216 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: for sleep, which is super important. Yeah, last night I 217 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: believe I went to bed there was some tie twenty 218 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: three to twenty three. I was like, yeah, let me 219 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: know what happens in the morning. 220 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: You make a good I didn't even think you're right 221 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: that game exactly. We got off a flight that landed 222 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: it to thirty, came here from JFK, exhausted after a 223 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: cross country. 224 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: We got back at eleven PM, got back in at eleven. 225 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 2: I went straight to bed. 226 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: And I went straight to that game, which was tied 227 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and you know how it was won 228 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: on a walk off field. It was so yes, I'm 229 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: glad I stayed up. 230 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: We all have made our choices. I'm so happy I slept. 231 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: But that trip is one. So we end up going 232 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: to San Francisco, and we had some exciting things we 233 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: were planning on doing. But we get on our flight 234 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: and this was a really, really nice moment. We were 235 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: on off flight, folks started to board. Everybody's passing and 236 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: this is kind of one of our favorite pastimes to 237 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: board the flight early and then just you know, do 238 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: some people watching? 239 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure people are watching us too sometimes 240 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: as they walk on. And we've been greeted many different 241 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 2: ways and usually very sweetly, but this was a first 242 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: for us. We're sitting there and a woman walks up 243 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: and she points to us. She recognizes us, which isn't 244 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: that unusual, but what she said was a first. She 245 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: said looking at us and said, morning Run my favorite, 246 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: and that was everything. Normally we'll get oh, we miss 247 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: you on TV or you know, some reference to being 248 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: on Good Morning America and about the podcast, yeah with 249 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: Amy and TJ. We love your podcast. But this was 250 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: the first time, and we've really been working hard and 251 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: part of our lack of sleep has been specifically tied 252 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 2: to getting up early and working on this morning Run. 253 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: By the time we get it out to everyone, we've 254 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: been up for three hours working on it and the 255 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 2: night before. So just to hear someone recognize that and 256 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: listen to the Morning Run, it absolutely made my whole weekend. 257 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: Actually it did. 258 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: You reacted to it. 259 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: I was so happy. 260 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: I thought it was sweet. And the ladies. Also in Arkansas, 261 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: when we were on a run there, a group of 262 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: five women were running past me and just started waving 263 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: their arms as they were We were passing each other, 264 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: running in opposite directions, and they were hooting and hollering 265 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: about the Morning Run as well. I kept running. I 266 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: guess I should have stopped and talked to them about it. 267 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: But those I mean, that's one woman who say one 268 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: thing to us on the flight and has no idea 269 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: the kind of impact it has. She has no idea 270 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: the hours we put in. She has no idea how 271 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: big of a staff we have. 272 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 2: She had had no clue staff of two. 273 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: What we had been going. And you know what that 274 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: morning as well, William, Damn you remember Friday morning, But 275 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: we had to get up and do I'm heading over 276 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: to the school. I have to watch a whole dance 277 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: and musical performance. That's the being school. Yep. We switched 278 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: our flights around so that I could stick around and 279 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: make sure we made that. We are just it's constant. Yeah, 280 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: and it's fun and it's great and it's fulfilling, but 281 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: we're exhausted, and I worry that something's going to have 282 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: to give, and I hope it's not our health. 283 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, obviously that would not be what we would 284 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: want to do, and I think we will. We're trying 285 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: to make tweaks and adjustments in our schedule. But to 286 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: the point you're making, when we love getting on planes. 287 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: It's something that we loved doing when we had work trips, 288 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: but it was just like, yeah, let's have fun. We'll 289 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: have like fun conversations and like background movies. Up. We 290 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: fell asleep, at least I fell asleep on that plane, 291 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: which I hardly ever do. For almost the entire flight, 292 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: which spoke volumes about where we were. 293 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: We alternated. I was awake watching you sleep, you were 294 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: awake watching me sleep. And flights are We were talking 295 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: to somebody recently about date nights. Our biggest dates are 296 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: our flights. We travel so much and when we get 297 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: on a plane, we know we're not going to be bothered. Finally, 298 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: we can't take phone calls. Sometimes we don't even get 299 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: the full Wi Fi to get emails. We just do 300 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: the messaging and nobody around is going to be met. 301 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: You around people, but they can't really mess with you. 302 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: And it is I love flying with you, So for 303 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: us to give up a date night to sleep, that's 304 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: a big deal. 305 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: Yes, we have to do better. I'm doing a little 306 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: bit better than you, but that's always been the case 307 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: with the sleep, and I'm actually curious we should do 308 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: a podcast on this. You've always been a believer that 309 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: not everybody needs the same amount of sleep, that one 310 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: size does not fit all, and you believe you need 311 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: about four five hours. 312 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: Generally, doctors tell me that's bs that we all do 313 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: need a certain amount of sleep. I start to get 314 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: impacted if I get less than four. But if I 315 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: get four hours, I get a solid four, then I'm 316 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, you see my behavior and see how I function. 317 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: I'm good to go, which is insane to me. 318 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: Okay, I get the four if I get the four. 319 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: But we were heading to California. It was a work thing. 320 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: We had some business to tend to out there with 321 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: our iHeart folks, but a part of it was that 322 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: we were going to be going to the Chase Center 323 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: out there in San Francisco, which I had not been 324 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: to yet. But it's the home of the Golden State Warriors, beautiful, 325 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: brand new place. I covered the Warriors for years, went 326 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: to five NBA Finals covering Stephan Crue. So I finally 327 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: get to the warriors new. 328 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: Home to see Sabrina Carf. She Grammy nominated, you know, 329 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: a huge, huge, probably one of the biggest singers now 330 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: out there. But we're just not necessarily folks who listened 331 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: to her music. So we were exposed to a whole 332 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: new pop star. And it is funny. I don't know 333 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: if anyone's ever been to a concert, maybe you've taken 334 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: your kids to a concert where you're not really that 335 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: familiar with the music, but everyone else is. And to 336 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: watch everyone just go gaga over her, know every word 337 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: to every song that I had never heard before in 338 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 2: my life. 339 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: It was amazing. We we know a couple, the latest 340 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: one Espresso is the one we know. But it was 341 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: incredible to see looks Brenan Carpenter. Clearly we've seen her 342 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: at the jingle Ball, I think, right, we know her 343 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: perform once before the jingle Ball. We didn't know what 344 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: to expect with this young lady and I was I 345 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: was just taking a bag and I see, I guess 346 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: you see this with young fans of a lot of 347 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: pop stars. But how must that feel? The entire arena 348 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: was singing every I think we were the only two 349 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: people not singing every single word right to her songs. 350 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean you could see this is she 351 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 2: and she's young, and she's she owned the stage and 352 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 2: it was we had fun with the folks backstage, or 353 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: at least with us who probably were in the same 354 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: boat as us, because we were all of a certain age. 355 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 2: We had some of our iHeart podcasters, fellow podcasters who 356 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: we some of whom we've met, one of whom we 357 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 2: had not Jenny Garth, who we actually do a podcast 358 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: with I do Part two, we've only actually met via zoom, 359 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: So it was fun to get to meet people in person. 360 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: And her husband and of course the Golden Bachelorette girls. 361 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 2: We've met them before, but we had extra time with 362 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 2: them and it was really awesome to be able to 363 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 2: just share the experiences of what we've all been going 364 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: through as podcasters but just as humans. It was fun. 365 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: San Francisco, you're all familiar with Scilito. 366 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 2: Wait, yes, Salito. 367 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: We know it's Sauce Allito. I lived out there for 368 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: three years. Actually I know it's Sauce Alito. But last 369 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: year we took a trip that included Sayulita in Mexico, 370 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: so we keep messing this up, so we are being 371 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: very careful when we say Sauce Aleto. But we stayed. 372 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: It's gorgeous. It has the best view of San Francisco, 373 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: I think in all the Bay Area over there. But 374 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: we all stayed at the same place and to get 375 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: to the Chase Center. We had to load up in 376 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: a van with these folks and head across the Golden 377 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: Gate Bridge to the Chase Center. 378 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 2: Sounds easy, sounds quick. 379 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't easy. It wasn't quick, and it wasn't quiet. 380 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: Yes, it became a bit of a party van. There 381 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: was some Sabrina Carpenter songs being played just to kind 382 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: of get us in the mood. And yes, that lovely 383 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: San Francisco Friday night traffic bit us And I think 384 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: it took us an hour and a half to go. 385 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 2: How many miles maybe just a few, maybe four or 386 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: five miles. Yes, but we did eventually get there, and 387 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: TJ was not in his element. 388 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? 389 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: I don't think you're a big fan of rowdy bus 390 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: or van trips in any way, shape or format. 391 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: Other people are. 392 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: I mean, yes, it gets you in the mood. Yeah, yeah, 393 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: it's fun. 394 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: Did I mention I'd been awake for twenty out correct? 395 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: There's a couple of pictures, Well, there were a lot 396 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: of pictures being taken that you also love taking selfies 397 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: and it was so funny to watch selfies being taken 398 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: and you being asked to participate in you having to 399 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: say yes, because it wasn't just me asking, it was Susan. 400 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: We love Susan. Susan Knowles from the Golan Bachelor. She 401 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: was competed on that, but she was trying to take 402 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: this selfie in a dark van so hard she took 403 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: at least fifteen. 404 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: Right, I posted the one successful. No, she did get 405 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: one successful, and she sent it to me. I posted 406 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: it on my Instagram because it was after all that 407 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: work and all those attempts, I felt like I needed 408 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 2: to at least pay homage to the fact that she 409 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 2: got one good one in and look. 410 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: So this was the whole trip is loud, it's hard, 411 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: It just where is this place? Can we get there? 412 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: I think I finally was able to doze off before 413 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: getting through the Oh. 414 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 2: You did, I did? Okay, yeah, yep, yes. And you 415 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 2: know when when you're sleeping on planes and vans that 416 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 2: maybe perhaps you should focus more on sleeping in your 417 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 2: bed at some point this week. So we didn't even sleep. 418 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: You slept you I don't even know if you slept. 419 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: You were on the couch last night, but you know, 420 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: I hate I'm. 421 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: Sorry, and please know, anybody that tries to take a 422 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: negative headline out, Oh, yes, I slept on the couch. 423 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: Call was watching a game and I didn't want to 424 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: disturb my love by having the TV on and the 425 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: refereeze whistle and the cheering while she's trying to sleep. 426 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I appreciated that. Yes, that's a good 427 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: important clarification because I know that clickbaits always. I think 428 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: there was one we were talking about a very similar 429 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: situation one night, and I think it said that I 430 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 2: kicked you out of bed, and that was just like 431 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: a way for someone to click. But it was hilarious 432 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: because you wanted to watch a game. They just took 433 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 2: something about us you going to the couch that somehow 434 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 2: I kicked you out of bed and such a rediculouses. 435 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: That was one of my favorite headlines. Yeah. I don't 436 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: think I passed that along to you sharing now. 437 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: Thank you sweetness, but it was. It was. And Susan 438 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: Susan Knowles and Kathy Schwartz are the two who they 439 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: have a podcast now with iHeart as well. But they 440 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: are two ladies that we first got to meet last 441 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: year in LA They actually crashed one of our podcast 442 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: recordings and we just had a great time with them 443 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: getting to know them a little more this time around. 444 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: They are two of the most original people I guess 445 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: I've ever been been around, and to see their friendship 446 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: and how they play off each other is really fun 447 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: to be heround I. 448 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: Have so enjoyed getting to know them both more. I 449 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 2: don't know. I think Susan was quick to say she 450 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: wasn't quite the same age as Kathy, But Kathy's seventy one, 451 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: and these are vibrant, vibrant women who have so much. 452 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: You know, we're talking about how much you would shave 453 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 2: off the end of your life. These women are living, 454 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 2: and they are at an age where they're ready for 455 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 2: their next chapter and their next man. And they were talking, 456 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 2: and they've been talking about how difficult it is when 457 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 2: you're a woman and they have means. They're not looking 458 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: for a sugar daddy or someone to financially take care 459 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: of them. They really just want a wonderful companion to 460 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: do all the fun things they still have left to give. 461 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: Their children are grown, their grandchildren are even grown in 462 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: some cases, so they want to go out and be 463 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: a part of things, and they want a partner to 464 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 2: do it with. I understand that, but they point out, 465 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: you know, if you have another man who is around 466 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: your age and he has means he's going younger. He 467 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: is not looking for someone who is of the same age, 468 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: and it's frustrating and it's tough because there really aren't 469 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: a lot of options. They said, two years, neither one 470 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: of them have had one date. 471 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: See that through me. I didn't know that because they're 472 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: always putting themselves out there. I thought they were bouncing 473 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: around and they that was wild to hear, but it's 474 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: I know, I didn't see them on The Golden Bachelor 475 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: at all. I think Kathy made it to the next 476 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: of the last final role of ceremony or something. She says, 477 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: all right, but anyway, they clearly we're looking for love 478 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: and looking today. I did not know this. She says. 479 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: She was the villain on the show. 480 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's Yeah, there's a name for it. When you 481 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: get like edited as the villain. It's the villain edit. 482 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: Maybe, But it was wild to think that, because of 483 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: the way we have gotten to know her one on 484 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: one and in a personal and personable way, to think 485 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: that the woman we know would ever in any context 486 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: be seen as a villain through me, because she is 487 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: so sweet to hear her talk about her life, her pain, 488 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: her husband, his passing, where she is now, what she wants, 489 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: that she wants, love, The way she looked at us, 490 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: and we were with her a lot, and we were 491 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: always holding hands and all over each other, the way 492 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: she looked and complimented and was so it was a 493 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: little heartbreaking to hear her talk about wanting that or 494 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: make sure you hold on to that. 495 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: Was it was tone. 496 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: They're not They're not sad women in any way like that, 497 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: but I was kind of my heart was breaking for 498 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: them a little. 499 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: I think it creates perspective, you know, especially if whatever 500 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 2: relationship you're in her work, wherever you are relationship wise 501 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: in your life. I think it's this human experience that 502 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 2: we all want that relationship where you've got your best friend, 503 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: your partner, that person you trust, and it doesn't mean 504 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: that it's and I kept saying, and she was being 505 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: very sweet about our relationship, and I said, please, it's 506 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: not always perfect, but you know, we have fought hard 507 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: to be where we are. And it was just another 508 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 2: reminder not to take that for granted. And I think 509 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 2: anyone who's in a relationship, of course, it's not going 510 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 2: to be perfect. Of course, there are ups and downs 511 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,959 Speaker 2: and you might need to find, you know, the right person, 512 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: the friendship that maybe you're missing, and I just think 513 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: we all long for that and supporting each other to 514 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: help each other find it is such a big part 515 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: of what we do in life. I mean, isn't that 516 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: what you think of the most? I mean, no matter 517 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 2: what success you've had in your life, no matter where 518 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: you've been, or the adventures you've had, or how full 519 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: your life is, if you don't have that meaningful partner, 520 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: for a lot of people, and I would definitely put 521 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 2: myself on this camp, that's what matters the most. It's 522 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 2: above all else. 523 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, people want to say I don't need anybody to 524 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: be happy, and I get that nobody needs it, but 525 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: it's just we're human. Be crave it you do as 526 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: a human being. You just that companionship. That friend is 527 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 1: certainly older in life and to go through it in life. 528 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: They're having so much fun together and getting to do 529 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: all kinds of new things and they're excited about and 530 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: that one thing they go. 531 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 2: Back to is just it's someone to share it with. 532 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: And Kathy is hilarious. If you ever meet her. The 533 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: second thing out of her mouth is going to be 534 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: asking you if you've got a friend or. 535 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 2: A brother an uncle. The next thing's just god. I 536 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: love those ladies. I love that they're putting themselves out 537 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: there too and saying, hey, I want this, because I 538 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 2: think so many of us if you don't have it 539 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: and say you don't need it, or you know you're 540 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: over it, or you've been there, done that. But no, 541 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: they're being vulnerable and they're saying no, we actually want this, 542 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: and so yeah, whatever we can do. Listeners out there, 543 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 2: you know, anyone, and we're serious. 544 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: You're all. Susan Knowles, Kathy Schwartz are the names, and 545 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: Knowles and Kathy's sports. I can't remember the name of 546 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: their podcast they do. 547 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: I think it's called Golden Hour, but. 548 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: They were on this season of The Golden Bachelor and 549 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: they are out there looking for love and they've put 550 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: themselves out there and they are hilarious and wonderful and 551 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: energetic ladies. And to Kathy, you remember Rues made the 552 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: point I'm seventy one and I have all this energy. 553 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: Another seventy one year old person has a difficult time 554 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: keeping up with me. Yeah, she does. She says, she 555 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: can go and go hard. So if you all want 556 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: to reach out to them, or know somebody and want 557 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: to make a connection, or maybe you're listening and you 558 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: would like to reach out to these two ladies. They 559 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: are absolutely wonderful and we are rooting for them, and 560 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: we are pulling for them, and we are now actively 561 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: engaged and trying to find somebody for them. 562 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just so you know, their official podcast name 563 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 2: is Bachelor Happy Hour Golden Hour. It's perfect. But they 564 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 2: are a hoot and we're rooting for them. All right. 565 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: Well, folks, we appreciate you all listening to us as 566 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: all romes. We are going to get a handle on 567 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: this schedule of ours. We are not having to travel 568 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: until early December, so we have not having to get 569 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: on a plane, I should say, yeah, until. 570 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: We have a couple of road trip plans. Yes, road 571 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 2: trips planned. 572 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: Yes, it's okay to stay on solid ground for a 573 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: little while. But it has been great. It's been fun. 574 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: And thank you to our listeners. We appreciate not just 575 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: seeing you all out in public, but we're seeing it 576 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: out in other places to where what we're doing in 577 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: the work, we're putting in is resonating in some way 578 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: with our listeners, and that is something we appreciate. Never 579 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: could imagine we'd be in this position. But it's fun. Yeah, 580 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: had a good time. 581 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: I'm a little tired, but there's no there's no one 582 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: I'd rather lose sleep for than you. With you. How 583 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: about that? 584 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: You want to try it one more time? 585 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: Did I say it wrong? 586 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying you say anything wrong, but I 587 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: just want to make sure that's what you meant to say. 588 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, that's another podcast, you know what. That'll be 589 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: a good tease. I think one of the next few 590 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: podcasts we're going to put out there is this notion 591 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: it's the cult and like men are from Mars, women 592 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: are from Venus where I don't know, ladies, if you're 593 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: the same as me. But I've tried to explain that 594 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: what I say, oh boy, literally isn't necessarily always what 595 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: I mean figuratively or emotionally, and so I've been trying 596 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: to help with the translations. 597 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: And so I don't put any emotion into what I'm saying, 598 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: and if I said it, that is literally what I meant, right, 599 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: And this makes it difficult to go back and forth 600 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: in conversations. 601 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: Sometimes I am the opposite. 602 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: And now I've been joking with you a little bit. 603 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: Now I have been joking a little bit. You'll say 604 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: something I don't like, or you say whatever I say. 605 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: I know you didn't really mean that, because I have 606 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: to interpret and read between the lines. 607 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: And that goes over so well with me. All Right, 608 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: we'll say that for another podcast. You all can enjoy 609 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: your week and live your life to the fullest.