Speaker 1: Who do you who? Everyone, Today, we are releasing our
Speaker 1: live show from this past weekend at SF sketch Fest
Speaker 1: featuring Mosha Kasher and Jeopardy icon Amy Schneider. We are
Speaker 1: so gratefully both did the show, and we're so happy
Speaker 1: you guys sold out Cobb's Comedy Club. We had such
Speaker 1: a great time in San Francisco. Huge shout out to
Speaker 1: the whole sketch Fest team for having us, and to
Speaker 1: motion Amy for being so game and just so funny
Speaker 1: and generous and smart. It was a really, really lovely
Speaker 1: night and a great weekend before this insane week And
Speaker 1: so we hope you enjoy the show. We love you,
Speaker 1: and we'll be back with normal episodes next week.
Speaker 2: Bye.
Speaker 1: Wow wow wow wow wow wow wow. Podcast starts starts now.
Speaker 1: And guess what I did that wrong. Let's take it
Speaker 1: from the top. Live show starts now. The one thing
Speaker 1: Sam said to me was, so we're doing live show
Speaker 1: starts now? I said, correct, correct the window.
Speaker 3: I meigo, why would I need to ask?
Speaker 1: Why? Why would you need to tell me that?
Speaker 3: First of all, how's everyone doing?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's up you guys? I just want to say your
Speaker 1: city has had such an amazing effect on the world
Speaker 1: globally and politically, and it is an honor to be
Speaker 1: here celebrating your achievements tonight. Congrats to us, all, Congrats
Speaker 1: to us all. Congrats on a TikTok band. You guys
Speaker 1: did that. You did that, We did that. We're not
Speaker 1: going back. I can't wait. We're so we're really pro
Speaker 1: TikTok man on a pod. Is it because we've never
Speaker 1: quite cracked it?
Speaker 3: Okaybe no, that's not why it's that. Couldn't be it.
Speaker 3: It's just because we love Instagram reels so much. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's I have no hate for TikTok, I just love Instagram.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We just think Mark Zuckerberg is like a better entrepreneur
Speaker 1: and he deserves a success more than whatever that other
Speaker 1: guy's name is.
Speaker 3: Plus his makeover is awesome. Yeah wait, that's.
Speaker 1: Coming up later. But we're so pro Mark Zuckerberg's makeover.
Speaker 1: He looks so fucking hot, you guys. I wish he
Speaker 1: was here.
Speaker 5: I learned something kind of groundbreaking today. George has met
Speaker 5: Mark Zuckerberg.
Speaker 6: Yep, better believe it isn't that weird? Yes, real resounding, Yes,
Speaker 6: you know you know the content. Thank you for having context.
Speaker 6: Queen in the house. Get this, we have a context, diva.
Speaker 6: Get this, Diva. I worked at Facebook.
Speaker 1: He's one of you, over a decade ago, over a decade,
Speaker 1: back when.
Speaker 3: Back when Facebook was still.
Speaker 1: Punk, back when Facebook was still punk. And the big
Speaker 1: controversy my first week. Let me know if you remember this,
Speaker 1: I know this is a gen Z slash Gen Alpha crowd.
Speaker 1: The big controversy in my first week there was the
Speaker 1: Emotional Contagion study, which is when they gave some people
Speaker 1: negative content and some people positive content without asking for
Speaker 1: their consent, and then they like saw how that affected them.
Speaker 1: Doesn't that seem so quaint? Can you imagine? That was
Speaker 1: like a month long media cycle. Now now they're murdering
Speaker 1: people anyway, So how.
Speaker 3: Did they risk on in the office? What was the
Speaker 3: vibe like?
Speaker 1: Well, I walked in and I said no more of
Speaker 1: that and not enough, and they made me VP of Emotion.
Speaker 1: So that's happened. So that happened. So that's happening tomorrow.
Speaker 1: TikTok is going blank. It's on Sunday whatever, I'm on
Speaker 1: New York time. It's after midnight for me, and then
Speaker 1: and then Monday and Monday we have the inauguration. So again,
Speaker 1: congrats you guys, you guys, congrats all of that. It's
Speaker 1: going really well. What else was on our mind?
Speaker 5: It's funny because like I really I still want to
Speaker 5: dig into this TikTok thing a little.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it.
Speaker 3: Is anyone here sad about it? Is anyone here happy
Speaker 3: about it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? The hell I thought this was a tech town.
Speaker 1: You guys have moved on. You guys are like TikTok
Speaker 1: is so like it's so like I feel like here
Speaker 1: they have already have a different a VR hologram app
Speaker 1: that they're all doing.
Speaker 5: George, I have to tell I think, I think I
Speaker 5: have to tell you something.
Speaker 1: Tell me.
Speaker 3: So what I was about to say was that this
Speaker 3: that was a very divisive response, and I realized something
Speaker 3: today that I think you guys will resonate with you all.
Speaker 3: When someone says, at least I sparked a conversation, they've
Speaker 3: lost the argument.
Speaker 5: When someone says, well, I've created a dialogue, yeah, that
Speaker 5: means they've made zero points. I'm kind of obsessed with
Speaker 5: it as like, well, good or bad? We're speaking, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Good or bad. San Francisco's the land of contrast, and.
Speaker 3: I find that to be so so powerful. So it's
Speaker 3: like that TikTok thing. I was like, Wow, no one
Speaker 3: can say we didn't start a conversation tonight.
Speaker 1: But don't you think that's like them? That is what
Speaker 1: social media is. It's like, well, they're all talking, that's
Speaker 1: what When Mark Zuckerberg is doing his is at the
Speaker 1: congressional hearings, answering questions, They're like, are they murdering? He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but they're talking. I love that. We're a tech podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: We're a tech podcast and everyone loves it. Wait. We
Speaker 1: also wanted to talk about how this is so far
Speaker 1: the worst year ever. Thoughts, how's everyone's year? Is anyone's
Speaker 1: zero off to a good start? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yes? The context eva?
Speaker 1: Oh oh do you I'm so shocked that the context
Speaker 1: eva has had a good year because I feel like
Speaker 1: it's not a good year for context. Do you guys
Speaker 1: think twenty twenty five is good for Do you think
Speaker 1: context is in or out? In twenty twenty five? Out out?
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. To me, the peak of no
Speaker 1: context was Kamala is Brat And so now I think
Speaker 1: the fact that the fact that people rejected that means
Speaker 1: there was hunger for context, but people don't know where
Speaker 1: to look, so they're like him, like, you.
Speaker 5: Know, I think, no matter what, no matter who wins
Speaker 5: the election, at least we're talking about context.
Speaker 1: And by the way, by the way, yeah, we're still
Speaker 1: talking about the election as if it hasn't happened. It'll
Speaker 1: happen when we say it does. They haven't finished counting
Speaker 1: the votes, you guys.
Speaker 3: Seriously, if we all get on our phones right now,
Speaker 3: we can change a vote.
Speaker 1: Who's voting late? Do you guys vote late? So okay,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, we were literally recently actually having a
Speaker 1: conversation about what is one good thing that happened in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five? And you famously said, I've been sleeping, well.
Speaker 3: Spilled, I have been sleeping so incredibly well start to finish.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, what else? There was one more thing? Oh no,
Speaker 1: all right, what context queen?
Speaker 3: Context Queen says, what context Eva says?
Speaker 1: What new insult just dropped? Wow? Damn. I like the
Speaker 1: idea of context Diva being potentially even a government position
Speaker 1: that you can be elected to. She's running for you know,
Speaker 1: she's running for context Diva. She was controllers so she
Speaker 1: would be pretty good at it. She's just used to
Speaker 1: context and things being in or out of it. So
Speaker 1: this is actually kind of a big idea. I think
Speaker 1: context Diva how localize? Are we thinking?
Speaker 3: Well, I think we need the one on the state
Speaker 3: and national level.
Speaker 1: No, because here's the thing. Sometimes you know, you'll get
Speaker 1: Kamala talking, You'll get Frum talking. There's no context. We
Speaker 1: need someone to come out. She's wearing a pinstripe suit,
Speaker 1: she's a lesbian, yes, and she opens a book. I
Speaker 1: think it's an amazing idea.
Speaker 5: I mean, I do think calling you know, essentially we
Speaker 5: have context Diva's already.
Speaker 1: In the historians.
Speaker 3: Sure, but I guess it's like so I hear a
Speaker 3: historians and I'm like, no, yeh, get you know.
Speaker 1: What else I do that for journalists? Like context Like
Speaker 1: who's academic? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 5: I'd rather jump off a cliff. I'd rather jump off
Speaker 5: a cliff. But when I hear context Eva, I'm like work.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, I'm almost like, it ruins it.
Speaker 1: If she is elected democratically, Not to be anti democracy,
Speaker 1: but it's like, guess who's else is elected democratically? All
Speaker 1: the other losers that she's in charge of keeping in
Speaker 1: keeping track of.
Speaker 3: Well, there will be no ethics in the context diva industry.
Speaker 3: I think what it should be it should be, Is
Speaker 3: this good?
Speaker 7: Excuse me?
Speaker 3: Yes, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I think the context diva should be more of a
Speaker 1: spiritual position.
Speaker 3: Well, of course, I think you should almost be in churches.
Speaker 5: And I think when you're speaking like say, like the
Speaker 5: spirit takes you, you can be context diva.
Speaker 3: Oh you can be like actually it was like this
Speaker 3: in the seventies.
Speaker 1: I see. Well, here's the real dark darkness of all
Speaker 1: of this. Guess what democratized being a context diva. TikTok
Speaker 1: you open TikTok, you open one of these social media apps. Folks,
Speaker 1: everyone thinks they are context diva these days, so much
Speaker 1: so there's so much context that we exist without any context.
Speaker 3: Or being overly context being overly.
Speaker 1: Maybe the issue all along wasn't that we lacked context.
Speaker 1: It was that we had too much context and not
Speaker 1: enough content.
Speaker 5: George, can I be completely honest with you? That was
Speaker 5: context Diva.
Speaker 3: But suddenly I saw, because here's the thing kt Tunstaul
Speaker 3: original context Diva.
Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? Oh? I'm scared? Actually, content creators.
Speaker 1: All right, get ready, content creators, what are they actually doing?
Speaker 1: Just commentating? They're not creating anything original. They're actually context creators.
Speaker 1: What content creators are doing are taking existing content and saying,
Speaker 1: you know, in the nineties, you know Kate Moss like
Speaker 1: walked in this runway and then she did this, and
Speaker 1: that's not content. They're actually just creating context. So all
Speaker 1: we're doing is we have a pre existing content. No
Speaker 1: new content is being made, but we're just recontextualizing it
Speaker 1: and recontextualizing it based on everyone's weird little biases. George,
Speaker 1: thank you, context Diva.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like, g George, you're scaring people.
Speaker 1: This is crazy.
Speaker 3: There was a moment when it really felt fire and brimstone.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like I'm making a point that felt accusatory? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, I genuinely can't tell.
Speaker 5: I think you are making a point. It's just like
Speaker 5: it's getting complicated because I think we're forgetting that we're
Speaker 5: at a comedy show.
Speaker 1: So this is a podcast about straight culture, and what
Speaker 1: usually happens is we'll think of different topics and I
Speaker 1: guess you could say contextualize them based on whether they
Speaker 1: are straight or gay? Would you say that's correct?
Speaker 3: I would say that's one hundred percent correct. Context Diva.
Speaker 1: Is that Context Diva? Do you agree?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Shure, they make attention.
Speaker 3: This has been notarized by the context Diva.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you are wh.
Speaker 3: Well that's crazy.
Speaker 5: Did everyone see that?
Speaker 3: That was insane? Not to be a bitch but I
Speaker 3: called that out?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you did. That was crazy. So I'm having
Speaker 1: such a difficult time because I just want to theorize
Speaker 1: context EVA for another hour and a half. And I
Speaker 1: know that no one wants that, Okay, but keep going.
Speaker 1: So we're basically we're gonna we each thought up some
Speaker 1: sort of straight topics and we want to run them
Speaker 1: by you, and we want and maybe debate even with
Speaker 1: one another, and and sort of talk through what's gay
Speaker 1: and what's straight that we're noticing in the world.
Speaker 5: And I'll start go, I have something that I think
Speaker 5: is very straight, and I it is having a sweet tooth.
Speaker 1: This is this is interesting. This is interesting.
Speaker 5: I think having a sweet tooth is extremely straight because
Speaker 5: because the LGBTQ plus people, we have addictions.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's like commit to something.
Speaker 5: It's like ooh, I love chocolate. It's like my friend
Speaker 5: is on meth. Like when when I hear like.
Speaker 3: Oh, I have such a sweet tooth, I'm like, you are, like,
Speaker 3: have you ever been out of the house?
Speaker 1: Having a sweet tooth is like microdosing being bad? Yeah,
Speaker 1: your entire religion is should we be bad?
Speaker 3: Having a sweet tooth is being like I shouldn't say it, but.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, it's like, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 4: Yeah it's I.
Speaker 5: I literally couldn't think of something more humble, something more
Speaker 5: like I haven't been out of my home?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, having a sweet tooth.
Speaker 5: But you know I have to I have to give
Speaker 5: a little context you. I just came to mind because
Speaker 5: I did hear a gay guy say it.
Speaker 1: Well, of course, I mean listen on the other you know,
Speaker 1: to play Devil's Advocate context eva, if you will. On
Speaker 1: the okay, that deserves an applause. But on the on
Speaker 1: the other side of things, not too late. On the
Speaker 1: other side of things, there is something about having a
Speaker 1: sweet tooth that gives Sorry, gay guy, adult living with
Speaker 1: his mom. She's asleep, He's going to the fridge, don't
Speaker 1: you think. And I have to tell you the context
Speaker 1: is that this guy had a he was a gay
Speaker 1: guy with a Southern accent, so he would say I
Speaker 1: have such a sweet tooth. Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: And and by the way, he studied well fully nude
Speaker 5: of course, right, So that's important.
Speaker 1: Contact There's something about being in the South that really
Speaker 1: brings out the horseshoe theory. You know, things, straight things
Speaker 1: become gay, gay things become straight. Sweet become savory. By
Speaker 1: the way, you know, what is the gay equivalent of
Speaker 1: having a sweet tooth? Being like, I actually prefer savory? Okay,
Speaker 1: drag my ass?
Speaker 3: And also I know that's my favorite thing is to go, oh,
Speaker 3: that's too sweet.
Speaker 1: Well I was about to say, of course, the corollary
Speaker 1: of that is, that's not too sweet? Is it? When
Speaker 1: ordering a cocktail? And guess what, spoilerler, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: too sweet. It's gonna be too sweet. It's gonna go
Speaker 1: ahead and be too sweet. Yeah, okay, So George, do
Speaker 1: you have one? Yes? I had one? Okay, So I
Speaker 1: was thinking, do you guys know way Mo is only here.
Speaker 1: You guys think it's normal. You're wrong. You think it's normal.
Speaker 4: I think it's normal.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm a normal, normal, blue blue bladed sure American.
Speaker 1: I'm coming here. I'm coming here straight off the bus.
Speaker 1: I see a car, there's no driver in it. I'm
Speaker 1: calling the police, and people trust this do just every time. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a legitimate question. Everyone answered the same time.
Speaker 1: When you get in one, are you like.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, or are you literally like.
Speaker 5: No, okay, You're like, you're like filming, everyone's filming. What's
Speaker 5: I gonna do?
Speaker 1: Are you all creating content? Slash context? So I got
Speaker 1: in my I got in my weaimo, and I went
Speaker 1: to Sweet Maple for brush. I got the Millionaire's Bacon
Speaker 1: because I heard it was really good. I'm sorry, all
Speaker 1: my references are about fifteen years old. Okay, So you
Speaker 1: think I think waymo, Well, it's complicated. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I definitely think obviously gig guys also are evil in
Speaker 1: their own way. But I think I think acting so
Speaker 1: much on the instinct to not want to talk to someone,
Speaker 1: specifically when in customer service, because that's basically where it
Speaker 1: comes from. It's people that don't want to say one
Speaker 1: single word to their human identified uber driver.
Speaker 3: Which, so by the way, can be one of life's
Speaker 3: greatest pleasures.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and we'll have you know.
Speaker 5: Actually, though we were in a human operated uber today
Speaker 5: and we were crushing.
Speaker 3: We were the way we realized.
Speaker 1: We were having a normal conversation on the back. At
Speaker 1: some point we hear, well, look at each other, we say,
Speaker 1: let's give this man a show.
Speaker 3: I'd say, we got more ten minutes, ten more minutes
Speaker 3: on this thing, let's fucking go.
Speaker 1: And then I was literally like, all right, what do
Speaker 1: I got? What do I got? I read that Nelly
Speaker 1: is performing the inauguration. I say, I'm yelling, I'm really
Speaker 1: speaking for the back, for the back. I'm like, what
Speaker 1: is it gonna do hot in her?
Speaker 3: The man starts applauding, Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: I mean, so there's the thing straight.
Speaker 1: People don't want to speak one word to their human
Speaker 1: identified uber driver. So they literally got military funding to
Speaker 1: make self driving cars. So what end?
Speaker 5: And just to counter you slightly, please, it is a
Speaker 5: little bit GI guy coated to be like I'm driving.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, yes, you're.
Speaker 5: Like there is something to be like, let's just see totally.
Speaker 1: But I know you mean there's also a personal touch there.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course there's a personal touch. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: what was your other one?
Speaker 3: Okay, my other one is this is well, everything I
Speaker 3: do is controversial because I men'swear.
Speaker 1: So men'swear is straight? Is the contention? People are scared.
Speaker 3: People are waiting with baited breath.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you guys okay? Yeah? Are you choking? Are
Speaker 1: you guys choking on your tenders? Right now people are
Speaker 1: taking off their Evan Canori jackets and throwing them in
Speaker 1: the trash? All right, context even, no, go ahead.
Speaker 3: I think men's wear is like, okay, so clothes or
Speaker 3: gay guy.
Speaker 5: Everyone knows this obviously, but but gay guys know that,
Speaker 5: like clothes matter when a woman wears them.
Speaker 1: Right, Like that's fashion. Yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 5: When a man Like there's this thing happening with men's
Speaker 5: wear where it's like like almost being like.
Speaker 3: I can take care of myself in fact, I don't
Speaker 3: need anyone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's like turning into this like armor of
Speaker 5: like thousand dollars watches.
Speaker 1: So, by the way, let women have one thing they
Speaker 1: can't have fashion now you're doing fashion for men.
Speaker 3: I just I would say.
Speaker 1: It's in cell coded if anything, so quite literally, it's
Speaker 1: literally like I like clothes because I can't find a woman. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: are they by the way, they're also okay? First of all,
Speaker 1: when women dress for other women, that is we're gonna
Speaker 1: go ahead and say sleigh boots. When a man dressed
Speaker 1: for another man, it's like, how about you go to therapy.
Speaker 5: There's something I can't elaborate, but militaristic about it, of course.
Speaker 5: And it is like when you see like a stylist
Speaker 5: dressing a woman. Yeah, and it's a gay man. He
Speaker 5: always looks horrible. That's high design, yes, because he knows
Speaker 5: that his clothes do not matter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to have you have to be egoists.
Speaker 3: You have to forget who you are and lose yourself
Speaker 3: in the in the textures.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the vibrant hughes. Yeah. It's also like develop
Speaker 1: any other hobby, you know what I mean? Of course
Speaker 1: I always agree with you. Hold on, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: my list. Okay, So my other one was gonna be
Speaker 1: Cheryl Samberg because just to go with a Mark Zuckerberg,
Speaker 1: because guess what, you know what you know we haven't
Speaker 1: heard from in a while. Cheryl Samberg? Where the hell
Speaker 1: is she? Does anyone know? She's actually here? Must be
Speaker 1: her moment.
Speaker 3: I could have been right.
Speaker 1: I was right before. Can you do?
Speaker 3: George did an incredible impression.
Speaker 1: No, I wasn't doing an impression. She just she has
Speaker 1: the perfect tone where she's like, on the one hand
Speaker 1: being so like, so the way this is gonna work.
Speaker 1: So what we did with this product is we wanted
Speaker 1: everyone to be empowered to talk to their cousin if
Speaker 1: they wanted to. But also, of course, if you want
Speaker 1: to set off a bomb and for it to go
Speaker 1: off in the Middle East, you can do that as well.
Speaker 1: And so she she she is able to like add
Speaker 1: a sort of like I would say, professorial auntie vibe
Speaker 1: to describing let's say, mass murder, you know, And I
Speaker 1: think that's what you have to look for in an executive,
Speaker 1: of course. But the point is now she's completely disappeared.
Speaker 3: Well, George, why can't she because she's a woman?
Speaker 1: Yes, Contextiva, is her behavior approved or no, oh, that's a.
Speaker 3: First bureaucracy is getting in the context.
Speaker 1: Okay. I sort of wanted to do the Bush era
Speaker 1: thing that we were talking about. You have to remind me, Okay.
Speaker 1: So we were saying, you know, obviously we're about to
Speaker 1: enter another trump eras so we were like, which disgusting
Speaker 1: parts of the last time conservatism was endemic are gonna
Speaker 1: come back, And I was saying, I think spring Break
Speaker 1: slash Girl's Gone Wild culture is gonna make comeback. But
Speaker 1: this time it's gonna be talk about context less like
Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be so confusing, whether it's
Speaker 1: empowering or not. Like Girl, if the Girl's Gone Wild
Speaker 1: version today is gonna be run by a like burnt
Speaker 1: tan woman from Florida who's like a billionaire.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's gonna be like like, Unfortunately, my mom
Speaker 3: is gonna sort of be like, I think it's cool.
Speaker 3: She's like, I think it's cool what they're doing, and
Speaker 3: I think we should be allowed to express themselves.
Speaker 1: And then guess what in the next Trump administration that
Speaker 1: woman is going to be ambassador to the US thoughts.
Speaker 1: I think this is one hundred percent genius.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes it scares me when you predict things because
Speaker 5: they will come true.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you remember when I predicted aerobics was
Speaker 1: gonna make a comeback and then literally Jane Fonda is
Speaker 1: doing it for Meta.
Speaker 3: Did you guys know which of you signed off?
Speaker 1: By the way, where's her statement? She's still working with
Speaker 1: Zuck Wow Hannoy Jane. They called her I'm right wing.
Speaker 1: All right, should we get the show started? What do
Speaker 1: you think? Yeah? What do we think?
Speaker 3: Should we get the show started?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we have to say we have two
Speaker 1: guests that I'm incredibly excited by. Well, I was about
Speaker 1: to say both bear Well Media. No, no, no, that's what
Speaker 1: I was God, say both Barria Natives. We did find
Speaker 1: out one of them is a Barry native. One of
Speaker 1: them has lived here since two those nine, which to
Speaker 1: my mind counts. I think it counts. So I think
Speaker 1: this is a hometown glory style show. And of course
Speaker 1: I'm a hometown native because I worked at Facebook in
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, so you know, we all get it here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm hometown. I was here for a wedding two
Speaker 3: years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, please get a way, mo I'll meet you there.
Speaker 1: Our first guest, you are going to absolutely go hogwild
Speaker 1: for him. He is in fact doing his own podcast show,
Speaker 1: Endless Honeymoon tomorrow at four pm.
Speaker 3: As part of this best part of this festival.
Speaker 1: Even. Please start clapping now, give it up for Mosha cash. Wow,
Speaker 1: grab a chair, grab all Mike.
Speaker 4: Where is she?
Speaker 1: Where's the queen?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: Wyeah context context Eva. I just had to contextualize who
Speaker 1: you are.
Speaker 4: Nice to see you.
Speaker 1: Wow, how's it going? Are you inspired by the context?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: This morning, I mean it was really psychedelic. It was
Speaker 1: really cool. Yeah, any thoughts about any of the amazing
Speaker 1: points we've made so far?
Speaker 4: I thought you both were charming and killed Oh perfectly. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that was really the scuttle butt up in the green
Speaker 4: room is these two boys are killing right now.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: I will say it didn't go quite as well as
Speaker 3: it did with our uber driver today, but we still
Speaker 3: appreciate all the laughs, y'all.
Speaker 1: I didn't love the points you made about men's wear,
Speaker 1: but other yeah, you know, I was thinking that as
Speaker 1: we were saying it, I was like, you are clearly
Speaker 1: someone who dresses well and likes how you dress.
Speaker 4: Like I would consider myself an in cell per se.
Speaker 1: No, I as I was saying it, I said, I
Speaker 1: could see you sort of backstage hovering, And I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw the glimmer of that night.
Speaker 7: Yet.
Speaker 4: No, it's just I'm not he's probably on Reddit right now. No,
Speaker 4: because like I fucked my wife like all the time.
Speaker 4: You know, you know, you know what I mean, I'd
Speaker 4: be like Bob mother my child.
Speaker 1: You know this is so cool.
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to bring really kind of like dick
Speaker 4: swinging straight energy right now.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, well there's anything that's dick swinging. It's a
Speaker 1: Japanese cardigan and crossing. You're like, damn, damn, damn got
Speaker 1: his ass so well.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to say that.
Speaker 5: I brought it up because men was close to me
Speaker 5: and the siren song always calls, and I always say
Speaker 5: stop it.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be a part of this world.
Speaker 4: Oh you want to you want to dress I want
Speaker 4: sometimes I don't want to say better, but you want
Speaker 4: to dress better.
Speaker 3: I think we both it calls to us, but I
Speaker 3: know it's bad.
Speaker 1: I think for us, men's wear is like if we
Speaker 1: were evangelical Christians, menswear would be porn. Like we're like,
Speaker 1: we want it so fucking bad, but we know, but
Speaker 1: we think it's immoral.
Speaker 4: Can I can I tell you something gay?
Speaker 1: Please?
Speaker 4: I would love the gay straight about porn that happened
Speaker 4: to me very recently, like last night, and it involves
Speaker 4: my wife, who you know, I'd be fucking on a
Speaker 4: regular basis.
Speaker 1: Fuck man, serious, fuck.
Speaker 2: She?
Speaker 4: I think it was. It might have been last night
Speaker 4: actually was like we were talking about something, and she
Speaker 4: was like, and that's why you that's why you exclusively
Speaker 4: jerk off to gay porn. Oh, that's what she said
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 1: Did she mean lesbian porn?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Oh okay?
Speaker 4: And I said what? And I guess early in our
Speaker 4: relationship I told her that I have jerked off to
Speaker 4: gay porn and she assumed that that was the exclusive content.
Speaker 1: We're married ten years. That's wild and she thinks that
Speaker 1: that's the only pornography that I consume. She is so accepting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you would think it would be a fucking red flag.
Speaker 4: It's basically you, babe, and then it's gotta be man exclusively,
Speaker 4: like you are gay? You are a gay man.
Speaker 1: Maybe she thought she turned to that gay.
Speaker 3: Oh that's cool. Did did did you feel like was
Speaker 3: it hard to dispel this rumor without seeming defensive?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: No, yeah, you don't want to be all at all, actually, dog,
Speaker 4: because you know it's like I no, I I It
Speaker 4: was so confusing to me that she had taken one
Speaker 4: small detail and superimpose it over what I would say
Speaker 4: is a nightly hobby of mine.
Speaker 1: Jerking offs are gay porn? Yeah, which is just general general? Sure,
Speaker 1: what percentage are we talking is gay?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Wait what percentage?
Speaker 1: What percentage of the porn you jerk off to is gay?
Speaker 4: It's just the one time I mentioned my wife. Okay,
Speaker 4: I would go ten, I would go ten, I would
Speaker 4: go ten.
Speaker 1: And can I ask you this is by the way,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought this to us. What is
Speaker 1: it about it? What is what is context? Diva? Hear
Speaker 1: me out? What is the context here?
Speaker 4: Well, what do you mean? What's the context? I got
Speaker 4: a boner and lotion. I'm horny.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 4: No, Actually, now that we're bringing this up, it is
Speaker 4: my topic.
Speaker 1: Uh okay, wait wait, so you said you had a
Speaker 1: bunch of topics.
Speaker 4: No, this is my topic. Jerking off to gay porn
Speaker 4: is straight? No, I'm just kidding. Okay, I fully believe
Speaker 4: what's the content? Why you're saying I guess what I
Speaker 4: mean is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, try to tap into your inner sexuality.
Speaker 1: What what's what's speaking to you about it? Here's what
Speaker 1: I love about this, And this is how this is
Speaker 1: actually very dick swinging of you. I'm asking you what
Speaker 1: is the context of you jerking off to gay porn?
Speaker 1: And you're like, what the fuck do you mean?
Speaker 4: Here?
Speaker 1: You are talking about jerking off to gay porn. You're like,
Speaker 1: what's the issue in which I love?
Speaker 4: I would say the context is I am an officionado.
Speaker 1: Sure of all porn and it's all hot to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well not all.
Speaker 4: There's one category I don't fuck with obviously, that's interracial.
Speaker 4: But no, I just I once in a while, I'm
Speaker 4: in a mood. It's a piccadillo, you know, I would
Speaker 4: say I I would say I'm ten percent gay, ten
Speaker 4: percent trans, eighty percent just meat.
Speaker 1: Meat and potatoes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Wow, well that was really amazing.
Speaker 1: Thank you for talking about give me up.
Speaker 4: Thank you, that was vulnerable space. Thank you for opening
Speaker 4: this queer space. Of course, listen, I guess come out.
Speaker 4: I guess yeah, honey, I'm seeing the headlines already.
Speaker 1: I love it to come out and immediately be like
Speaker 1: my wife thinks I only dronk off to gate porn.
Speaker 1: The fuck is her problem? Bitch? Well where else than
Speaker 1: radio la?
Speaker 4: Am I going to admit this?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: Mosha, I'm Mosha, Mosha.
Speaker 1: We heard that you actually came with not one topic
Speaker 1: but several that you wanted to run by.
Speaker 4: It wasn't even that, it was that I was struggling
Speaker 4: with my sexuality. Of course, we know to come up
Speaker 4: with every topic that I came up with as uber straight,
Speaker 4: immediately felt gay again. And you said that that's an
Speaker 4: ongoing theme.
Speaker 1: I don't, it's a problem.
Speaker 4: I mean, I at first I thought about like my hobby,
Speaker 4: which is surfing, and I'm like, actually, there's nothing gayer
Speaker 4: than surfing. You know. It's like you put on like
Speaker 4: a skin tight rubber suit with your buddies and then
Speaker 4: you all lay face down and you get really excited
Speaker 4: when there's a big swell, you know, like yeah. And
Speaker 4: then I was like, let me go really straight UFC.
Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, I don't. That's that's as
Speaker 4: gay as anything is. I was like, okay, how about
Speaker 4: like fingering. It only took me a few moments to
Speaker 4: realize the flawed my logic and a few memories from
Speaker 4: the catch on my computer, and then I was like, well,
Speaker 4: how about like come comes pretty straight?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like it shoots, you know, it's like, yeah, it's violent,
Speaker 1: it blasts. You know, it's straight. You're lucky. It's white stains.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's straight, it's white, it's male.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 1: But I only landed on on intimacy workshops.
Speaker 3: It this is so huge.
Speaker 4: Because I went to one two weeks ago with my wife.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Ah.
Speaker 7: So cool.
Speaker 4: Actually it was more it was more of a of
Speaker 4: a porn detox than an intimacy No, it was it.
Speaker 4: It was a real intimacy workshop. And we noticed that.
Speaker 4: And this is I'm noticing already that there's a bit
Speaker 4: of a slant towards gay men on this show.
Speaker 1: Would we say, oh, oh yeah, yeah, well we try,
Speaker 1: you know, we used to try to be more inclusive.
Speaker 1: I think we've sort of given up recently. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, after the.
Speaker 4: Election, every couple was there were no gay male couples.
Speaker 4: There were twenty two couples, and there were some lesbian
Speaker 4: couples and the rest were straight couples. And we were
Speaker 4: Natasha and I were asking ourselves, where is where are
Speaker 4: the gay men? Where where are they? And we were like, oh,
Speaker 4: they're probably like having fun or something somewhere.
Speaker 1: So we can answer that for you. It's complicated. So,
Speaker 1: as we've said before on the pod, divorce is lesbian
Speaker 1: right and staying together forever, but being violently unhappy as
Speaker 1: game of guys because they're all open. So if they're like,
Speaker 1: let's say you go home to your husband. You literally
Speaker 1: hate each other, can't stand each other. There's no reason
Speaker 1: to change anything because you're already having the sex you
Speaker 1: would be having otherwise. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're like, you're like, you come home, you throw
Speaker 5: your keys down. Your husband says like, huh, finally you're here.
Speaker 5: You pick your keys back up, You're going to the bathouse. Yeah,
Speaker 5: oh that sounds great.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: A straight relationship you just go, yeah, I'm here, and
Speaker 4: you sit down on the couch. Yeah, and dig in.
Speaker 4: What is straight? What's straight?
Speaker 1: Lesbian is divorce, staying with somebody straight somewhere in the middle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: straight is like being moderately happy in your second marriage.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's sort of like, well
Speaker 1: I reached, like this is sort of the best that
Speaker 1: can probably get married. Yeah. Yeah. No, Sam is sorry, engaged,
Speaker 1: but in.
Speaker 3: Like an put it put in like an alternative way.
Speaker 1: Sam is obsessed with being fully in the price of
Speaker 1: planning a wedding, but not saying that he's engaged. Sorry,
Speaker 1: am I calling you out?
Speaker 7: No? You do?
Speaker 4: You call him your fiance?
Speaker 1: God? No? Now, how good? That's too basic or something? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is he a lesbian?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So why weren't they Why weren't they there?
Speaker 5: They don't no, I think literally George is right, they're
Speaker 5: like out there like spending the money you spent on
Speaker 5: that to like go to fire Island and hook up
Speaker 5: as many people as they Yes.
Speaker 1: Their therapy is having three or their intimacy workshop is
Speaker 1: literally fucking another guy.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: I have pitched that to my wife so many times.
Speaker 1: The thing is it does help?
Speaker 4: Yeah does it?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 7: Actually?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Wait.
Speaker 4: You'll have a conflict with your partner and then go,
Speaker 4: well when.
Speaker 5: You're feeling a little bland and you're like, okay, it's
Speaker 5: time to mix it up, Like who are we anymore?
Speaker 5: It's like then you have sex with a third person
Speaker 5: and you're like, oh, that's who I am.
Speaker 1: That's cool. See I do that, but it's I keep
Speaker 1: it a secret from my wife.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, yes, that's why it's okay, yeah, wait, don't
Speaker 3: you don't put this podcast out.
Speaker 5: I'm curious, like, in this intimacy workshop, what we're like,
Speaker 5: what were.
Speaker 1: They getting up to? Like, because I actually am also very.
Speaker 5: There's an element of this that feels very LGBTQ plus
Speaker 5: where it's like, so you're all getting horny together.
Speaker 3: Oh, we weren't. No, we weren't.
Speaker 4: We weren't fucking each other.
Speaker 1: So here's what Sam is referring to. It's like there
Speaker 1: are actually they're one of the reasons I will say
Speaker 1: you didn't see gay men there is because there are
Speaker 1: intimacy workshop adjacent things like that that are like men only.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of like men only things that you
Speaker 1: don't hear about that are like sort of bath house
Speaker 1: adjacent culture. Well, they'll they'll phrase it like reconnect with
Speaker 1: your body.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it's like a Lingham covering or where
Speaker 4: it'll be like everyone is edging right, but like there
Speaker 4: is also a psychoanalyst present. I got it.
Speaker 1: He's the guy you come off you do watch.
Speaker 4: Can I can? I? By the way, tell you I
Speaker 4: don't know this. This is weird. It's back to gay porn.
Speaker 4: But I was in a in a circle jerk when
Speaker 4: I was a teenager with with one gay man and
Speaker 4: a straight friend. Everybody here is just like, Okay, you're gay, Mosha,
Speaker 4: that's what's happening. No, you're Oakland. It reads similar, but uh,
Speaker 4: it was in the nineties This was in the nineties
Speaker 4: and gay I don't know if you remember this gay porn.
Speaker 4: They used to do multiple cum shots of the same
Speaker 4: com like it would be a guy like oh, and
Speaker 4: then there would be another angle and the same guy
Speaker 4: would have uncome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm familiar.
Speaker 1: Do they not do that in straight porn? No? Multi no?
Speaker 4: Oh, we like cinema verite. Okay, you can't come twice?
Speaker 1: Did someone just go awe?
Speaker 4: It was between an awe and an eu.
Speaker 1: Context E has thrown out her notebooks. She's like, they
Speaker 1: are all okay, so all right, but I do want
Speaker 1: to get into the specifics of what else happened at
Speaker 1: this workshop.
Speaker 4: Okay, well it was. It was conducted by an old
Speaker 4: hippie couple and the man. The man started. There was
Speaker 4: a lot of funny things that happened. But the man
Speaker 4: he had a harmonium. Let's start there. You know what
Speaker 4: that is. It's like a It's like a cross between
Speaker 4: a It's like an if an accordion was on psychedelic
Speaker 4: drugs kind of. It's like a thing that you do
Speaker 4: this with and then you play. And he would sing
Speaker 4: songs and they were very bad.
Speaker 1: I can see the auronicism in that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were really bad songs, but they were kind
Speaker 4: of beautiful too. It'd be like a everybody, hello, love,
Speaker 4: and he would say everybody before he had sung the
Speaker 4: whole song, so we'd be like, what do we and
Speaker 4: it would but they were very basic love hippie kind
Speaker 4: of like loving is good, loving is God. You love
Speaker 4: love and we would all have to sing together. And
Speaker 4: then his wife was there. He was a psychiatrist and
Speaker 4: she was a psychiatric nurse. They'd been together sixty years.
Speaker 1: They were all over each other.
Speaker 4: Like constant touching, fondling. He mentioned the fact that he
Speaker 4: had cheated on her within ten minutes of the beginning,
Speaker 4: and that was sort of the That was the table setting,
Speaker 4: and then opening night. We went around the room and
Speaker 4: everybody said their biggest vulnerability. Everybody, everybody and people we
Speaker 4: didn't know would say their biggest vulnerability. And that was
Speaker 4: really super intense and once you got really vulnerable. After that,
Speaker 4: I kept thinking we were going to talk about fights
Speaker 4: that we were having, and it was It wasn't. It
Speaker 4: was really very positive stuff. It was like what do
Speaker 4: you love about your partner? What do you can you
Speaker 4: your memories when you first met them and and it
Speaker 4: was actually a super beautiful experience.
Speaker 3: So this is so different than what I was expecting.
Speaker 1: Sam, What did you think?
Speaker 5: I'm like, so, when does the porn come on? Okay,
Speaker 5: when do you start touching each other?
Speaker 1: Oh? I see what you're saying. You thought it was
Speaker 1: a sexual intimacy work. Yes, Oh okay, okay, this was
Speaker 1: more of a It was like it was therapy adjacent.
Speaker 1: It was like, okay, building intimacy with your partner.
Speaker 4: I think I figured it out. Emotional intimacy, emotional tea
Speaker 4: is straight.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah. I would say there's a spectrum and it's like,
Speaker 1: emotional intimacy is lesbian. Yeah, straight is down the middle,
Speaker 1: right zero. Emotional intimacy is gay guy. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: there's something to that. Okay, here's my sort of first
Speaker 1: thought about this. The emphasis on positivity to me, feels
Speaker 1: very straight because it feels like a sort of it
Speaker 1: feels like upworthy videos, Like it feels like a cliche
Speaker 1: ridden yeah, Like it's literally like, guess what it is.
Speaker 1: It's literally love wins, Like that's what you're doing. It's
Speaker 1: like you are saying we have issues and someone's.
Speaker 4: Like, sh it was sponsored by the Lincoln Project.
Speaker 3: Of that.
Speaker 1: That would be iconic if the Lincoln Project sponsored intimacy
Speaker 1: workshops for.
Speaker 4: Lesbians not to be not to be too sincere. But
Speaker 4: the the the the dodging of conflict was its secret sauce.
Speaker 4: I thought, like I said, we were going there to
Speaker 4: like work on ways to fight better, and instead we
Speaker 4: spent the weekend talking about how much we loved each other,
Speaker 4: which wasn't really the primary thing we were thinking about
Speaker 4: on the way up there, And it somehow changed the
Speaker 4: topic in such a way that it was it was
Speaker 4: really healing, and it was.
Speaker 1: It is it the content to keep going?
Speaker 4: Is this a form out of your show? I had
Speaker 4: this like realization that you would be and you as
Speaker 4: a married man and you as a as a fiance.
Speaker 4: I was like, why wouldn't you do this once a
Speaker 4: year or once every two years, do a tune up?
Speaker 4: It was tune ups. I think we can all agree,
Speaker 4: very very stressing.
Speaker 1: Well again check the tires, babe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I yeah, I mean I think I think that's
Speaker 5: part of stray cultures I really relate to. Actually, is
Speaker 5: there's this thing like I remember one time, like five
Speaker 5: years ago, my partner and I were arguing a.
Speaker 1: Lot, and.
Speaker 5: My guy, my best guy, and I were arguing quite
Speaker 5: a bit, and there was a moment where we're like,
Speaker 5: you know what, let's just bury it, like, let's actually
Speaker 5: not discuss it anymore.
Speaker 3: We're actually just gonna be like enough moving on. And
Speaker 3: it helped so much.
Speaker 1: Okay, So basically, you guys, you guys are repressed. You
Speaker 1: guys are literally rebranding wasp culture to make it more
Speaker 1: like burning Man like it's and I think he's genius.
Speaker 4: Literally the opposite of intimacy is that is right, exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm getting really close to like an emotional truth for you.
Speaker 4: So what I'm gonna do is suggest that you build
Speaker 4: a callous over it. We never revisit it.
Speaker 1: I think it can be so empowering. Well, here's what
Speaker 1: I'll say. What if the agreement to create a callous
Speaker 1: is the most intimate thing you could do at the
Speaker 1: end of the day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But by the way, that should have been my
Speaker 4: applause break. I just didn't bring it up quickly enough.
Speaker 4: That's how it felt. It felt like, even through the
Speaker 4: corniness of the harmonium, even through the like the weird
Speaker 4: flakiness of this situation, showing up was like eighty percent
Speaker 4: of what this whole thing was. So basically, anyway, that's
Speaker 4: the reason I came on the show. I'm actually planning
Speaker 4: an intimacy workshop for gay man only.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, And it basically what it is.
Speaker 4: You all stand in a circle, you stare at each other,
Speaker 4: you say your biggest vulnerability in the and you all
Speaker 4: just sort of ejaculate on me.
Speaker 1: Like that, and then you'll get to create some of
Speaker 1: Mosha's favorite videos.
Speaker 4: No, that is the video.
Speaker 5: Wow, well that sounds amazing. All right, any final thoughts
Speaker 5: on an intimacy workshop.
Speaker 4: I do have a final thought. This is uh for
Speaker 4: the for your audience, We're strugg Our podcast tomorrow is struggling.
Speaker 4: We have sold five tickets. No, I'm joking or very popular,
Speaker 4: but but we are doing a dating game segment and
Speaker 4: there's a there's a woman coming up that is going
Speaker 4: to do like classic dating game but show number two
Speaker 4: best or number three. She's queer, and we have two
Speaker 4: women and we would love a man if there is
Speaker 4: a man that dates women in the audience. So you're
Speaker 4: you're like, I'm a man, but you thought I was
Speaker 4: just like if there is a man.
Speaker 3: The fingers started flying and if there's only like one.
Speaker 4: You know, come talk to me after the show. But
Speaker 4: any further thoughts on intimacy workshops, I honestly think if
Speaker 4: you're in a relationship as corny as they are. It
Speaker 4: was one of the coolest things that I ever did.
Speaker 4: And it was really funny because there were couples in there.
Speaker 4: There was one couple that had been together sixty years
Speaker 4: the people that were leading it. Another couple been together
Speaker 4: fifty plus years, and the woman was in her last
Speaker 4: I think two or three months of life and they
Speaker 4: were dedicating themselves to put making those last three months
Speaker 4: intimate and loving. And I know that's that's getting right
Speaker 4: to that callus that you built over with your with
Speaker 4: your fella or your guy pal or whatever.
Speaker 1: They should have gone to Berlin.
Speaker 4: And then there were other another couple was there. They
Speaker 4: were like, we've been together since May. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 4: they were just high on cocaine the entire time.
Speaker 5: Yeah damn well give it up emotion cash everybody.
Speaker 1: Thank you, see you later. That was amazing. Wow wow
Speaker 1: wow wow wow wow. That was incredible. That was that
Speaker 1: was electric. That was electric. Then narrative to come out with,
Speaker 1: like you know, haha, gay porn and then to end
Speaker 1: on Love Conquers All. I witnessed a sixty year relationship
Speaker 1: like reach its pinnacle in front of me, and then
Speaker 1: she died. God, it would have been so great for
Speaker 1: the story if she died the end. I know, Oh
Speaker 1: that's too bad.
Speaker 3: Did you all learn something about intimacy?
Speaker 1: Okay? I want to know, San Francisco, make some noise.
Speaker 1: If you have been in anything that could be called
Speaker 1: an intimacy workshop, that's pretty good about Okay, I would
Speaker 1: have thought more.
Speaker 5: Maybe I want to say, this thing keeps happening tonight
Speaker 5: where like there will be like this. It's sort of
Speaker 5: one of my favorite things is where there will be
Speaker 5: three people that go like this, and it actually sounds
Speaker 5: much sadder and if there was no applause, that's true.
Speaker 5: It is genuinely. When I hear that, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 5: like queer art of failure.
Speaker 1: Wait, can I'll tell you something? This is so smart
Speaker 1: actually because guess what is like the sign of silence
Speaker 1: is crickets. It's not actual silence, like there's something about
Speaker 1: there's something about are you hearing this something?
Speaker 3: Sometimes you can be louder than silence.
Speaker 1: Fuck, like actual silence is in silence.
Speaker 5: Damn, George, you are so smart. Wait I also just
Speaker 5: confess something. Oh, when Mosha was doing the like fake
Speaker 5: straight guy handslaps.
Speaker 1: So you twice to me zero times, there was one
Speaker 1: time where he went like that and I literally didn't
Speaker 1: act fast.
Speaker 5: Enough and then was over the way that I genuinely
Speaker 5: felt taken taken in that was like, like.
Speaker 1: Oh, I trust he picked favorites and it did not
Speaker 1: go unnoticed.
Speaker 3: Well, maybe our next guest will also pick favorites, but
Speaker 3: the opposite way, so that, Oh my god, let's hope.
Speaker 1: So you guys, anyway, I feel like I just sounded
Speaker 1: like Busy Phillips.
Speaker 3: You guys, which would be an honor to sound like Busy.
Speaker 1: That's right, or I or like Rachel Zoe. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: dad about this next guest.
Speaker 3: I'm doad.
Speaker 8: I die, I die, I die way out at the
Speaker 8: mac Ala in the bathroom, I was literally dad, and
Speaker 8: now I'm trying to I'm not talking about my mouth anyway.
Speaker 1: So she is quite literally one of the smartest women alive.
Speaker 3: I want to say, that's what they're that's what they're
Speaker 3: telling me.
Speaker 1: That is what I think. She was voted smartest woman alive.
Speaker 1: She is an absolute legend and an icon. She has
Speaker 1: a memoir alcoholed in the form of a question, look
Speaker 1: at us promoting worse. I'm literally so good at promoting.
Speaker 1: Please give it up for Amy Schneider.
Speaker 7: Yes, I am the I am the smartest woman alive.
Speaker 7: That's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, congrats on that, by the.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because like definitely, you know, knowing the capital of Lichtenstein,
Speaker 7: That's that's what smart means. Like, yeah, that's that's why
Speaker 7: I am.
Speaker 1: Is the capital of linkedn' signed Lincoln's sign? Or is
Speaker 1: that just Luxembourg?
Speaker 7: That's Luxembourg, classic classic trap.
Speaker 1: That's a classic trap lit dudes. Oh of course, Well
Speaker 1: that was maybe my second guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course it was.
Speaker 1: Okay, Amy, first of all, how's it going. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: start there. Let's start there.
Speaker 7: Oh, dish, you're still asking people how things are going,
Speaker 7: and I know, like the timeline of well, yeah, things
Speaker 7: are going fantastic.
Speaker 1: Perfect, I'm so glad. Yeah, but this is my new
Speaker 1: my new character. Go ahead, no, please do it?
Speaker 7: No, wow, yeah, no, things are going wonderful. I'm trans
Speaker 7: I just got you know, this election just happened, and yeah,
Speaker 7: this is wonderful. I can't even play college volleyball these days.
Speaker 1: And we know, you know, people don't know that your
Speaker 1: passion has always been college volleyball.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 1: And you actually did Jeopardy because you were hoping to transition.
Speaker 1: That's the real transition is from Jeopardy to college.
Speaker 7: Now that that's been forever taken away from me, apparently.
Speaker 1: That is so sad. I'm so sorry. Yeah, so Amy,
Speaker 1: m hm, did you bring a topic with you and
Speaker 1: can you tell us what it is?
Speaker 7: I mean, yes, and yes, okay.
Speaker 1: I'm amazing at my job.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was great, well done. It was. It was
Speaker 7: a struggle because I was like, at a certain point
Speaker 7: dealing with the there's because there's the gay or straight spectrum,
Speaker 7: and then there's also the CIS or trans spectrum.
Speaker 1: Correct, right, because a very.
Speaker 7: Cis thing to do is to divide things up into categories.
Speaker 7: So I had to like work through that.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 3: If there's one thing we love, it's putting something in
Speaker 3: a box.
Speaker 1: Right. But can I tell you something? Theorizing about categories
Speaker 1: is trans.
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, you got me, You got me on
Speaker 7: that one.
Speaker 3: Good job, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean.
Speaker 7: I had a lot of different ideas, but like I
Speaker 7: felt like the one that somehow felt most appropriate to
Speaker 7: this venue is colonizing Mars.
Speaker 3: Got it, colonizing Mark colonizing Mars?
Speaker 5: And what do you you know, feel straight about that
Speaker 5: off the bat, before we really get it into.
Speaker 3: What it feels straight about it?
Speaker 4: To me?
Speaker 7: Is that like it is this idea that like, you know,
Speaker 7: Elon Musk's specifically and a lot of other people have
Speaker 7: this idea that's like we're just gonna go to Mars
Speaker 7: and things will answers will happen, We'll figure out a
Speaker 7: way to do things there. Everything's gonna work out just fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh you know.
Speaker 7: And I'm like, I'm trans like nothing works out. I
Speaker 7: can't even put on an eyeliner, Like I.
Speaker 1: Don't like, now you want me to do it in Mars? Right,
Speaker 1: what's the gravity even like there? Yeah?
Speaker 7: No, I mean, but it is just this like like
Speaker 7: bullish confidence, yes that like, Okay, here's what we'll do.
Speaker 1: We'll go to MA And I also think you're pointing
Speaker 1: to the idea of having a big going big without
Speaker 1: thinking of the consequences or without thinking of the implications.
Speaker 1: It's like literally like doesn't that sound cool? And that's
Speaker 1: reason enough to do it.
Speaker 7: Right, exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a childishness.
Speaker 3: The childish it's a childish just because everyone Quinn people
Speaker 3: have to.
Speaker 1: Grow up and specifically boyishness. Yeah, yeah, there's something also.
Speaker 5: You know when people like get a really big house
Speaker 5: but like have nothing to put in it, that is genius.
Speaker 1: That is what Mars is to me. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, where it's like it's like, yes, we could maybe
Speaker 5: get there, well I mean yes.
Speaker 3: Maybe even live there, but what are we gonna put there?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 7: I mean yeah, I mean exactly.
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, you have three kitchen islands in
Speaker 1: your kitchen and it's.
Speaker 3: Literally how about you just clean your fucking room?
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah.
Speaker 7: This is my thing about like like the Elon Musk
Speaker 7: of the world being like, oh, we need to be
Speaker 7: a multiplanetary society like even that like on the scale
Speaker 7: of the galaxy. It's like ants being like, oh, we
Speaker 7: need to also colonize the kitchen as well as the bathroom.
Speaker 7: And now we're like, you know, doing it. No, we're
Speaker 7: still in this tiny little space. And you know what,
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what's on Mars nothing right, there is
Speaker 7: nothing there. But if you're you just assume that something's
Speaker 7: gonna turn up and be good for you. You're gonna
Speaker 7: be like, oh oh, turns out things worked out all
Speaker 7: right for me after all.
Speaker 1: Yeah. There's also a way that thinking big, which is
Speaker 1: so privileged in straight spaces, is actually defense mechanism against
Speaker 1: not wanting to focus on the small. So it's like
Speaker 1: Elon Musk wants to go tomorrow. It's like call your son.
Speaker 3: Or call your door.
Speaker 5: Yeah, question, Oh the context, okay, what is your question?
Speaker 3: What is your question? We always do this with our context, EVAs.
Speaker 1: Is the American tree straight? Oh, so we're just like.
Speaker 3: So we're just saying whatever we want.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something for our context. Eva, you
Speaker 1: sort of missed the boat on how this marked. But
Speaker 1: I but but okay, but here's but okay.
Speaker 7: But I we can relate that to I think this
Speaker 7: is really vold.
Speaker 1: And you're absolutely right, And now I'm and now I'm
Speaker 1: getting how you made the connection. It's like it's like, well,
Speaker 1: the American dream, of course, the American dream and also
Speaker 1: colonizing Mars both built on infinite growth. It's like you
Speaker 1: can you can do anything.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, well, and I mean this is the thing too,
Speaker 7: Like again, the you know, the the trans thing, because
Speaker 7: like you know, as as a white trans woman, I
Speaker 7: spent so much of my life in straight land, you know,
Speaker 7: and I've lost my train of thought. Hold on, sorry, yeah,
Speaker 7: but it's like, yeah, these things that uh, you know,
Speaker 7: we we're all on the outcast. We get put into
Speaker 7: these places.
Speaker 1: Shit, no, no, look, this is no. I love this.
Speaker 5: And we think, you know, we think your life is
Speaker 5: so glamorous as the smartest woman on earth. But there
Speaker 5: actually comes with side effects.
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes you can have too many sometimes you can
Speaker 1: have too many thoughts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and people don't talk about that.
Speaker 1: They only talk that's right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I don't have to do many thoughts right now.
Speaker 7: But what it is like things start out like the
Speaker 7: tech industry, yeah, the American Dream America itself. All the
Speaker 7: outcasts end up out there, and all the outcasts are
Speaker 7: a combination of gays, straights, queers, and also assholes. Sure, right,
Speaker 7: And then what happens is, as it gets more powerful,
Speaker 7: all the gays, straits and queers get filtered out and
Speaker 7: you're left with just the assholes at the top. And
Speaker 7: that's what's happening with the tech industry right now, is
Speaker 7: that we've just we're just left with the assholes.
Speaker 1: But here's my question for you. You're saying, initially America was
Speaker 1: outcasts and then the assholes rose to the top. Are
Speaker 1: the people going to Mars? Is the issue with Mars
Speaker 1: is that it's not the outcast going there? Oh my god. Okay, hold,
Speaker 1: So the issue with colonizing Mars is that it's not
Speaker 1: people that are like, I'm so weird, they'll only get
Speaker 1: me in Mars. It's not that it's actually right, because
Speaker 1: it's because it's not escaping to a safe space. It's
Speaker 1: literally colonizing and you playing yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah no, because it's like because I chose this
Speaker 7: because I used to I read like the Kim Stanley
Speaker 7: Robinson Mars trilogy and I loved that stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah mm hmm yeah.
Speaker 7: And it's like it used to be so promising, just
Speaker 7: like computers used to be so promising that you know,
Speaker 7: the Internet used to be so gay and it has
Speaker 7: gotten so straight because like that's what happens, you know,
Speaker 7: we we've come along, all us weirdos have come out
Speaker 7: and done these new weird things, and then a bunch
Speaker 7: of other It turns out some of us were just
Speaker 7: like not weirdos. We're just like ass with no constraints
Speaker 7: that are like Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg and just
Speaker 7: want to like bang shit up and do shit.
Speaker 1: What do you think appeals? So the assholds are the
Speaker 1: ones planning to go to Mars?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Fine, But then there are normal people who are excited
Speaker 1: by that proposition. What's going on psychologically there? Would you say?
Speaker 7: Well, I mean we all, we all wish we could
Speaker 7: go to Mars. We all wish to Mars, right, we
Speaker 7: all wish we could have a clean slate and a
Speaker 7: fresh start.
Speaker 1: Obviously, Yeah, settle down to the nice alien Sure yeah, sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I moved to Mars. It's just called La.
Speaker 1: Here's a question. Women are from Mars, men are from Venus.
Speaker 1: Men are from Mars. Women are from Venus.
Speaker 3: Who's from where? Who does what?
Speaker 1: Okay? Was that context eva?
Speaker 5: But the spirit took over? That's our deputy. Yes, the
Speaker 5: context EVA has security.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, got I gotta got it. Yeah okay.
Speaker 1: So here's my question for you. Colonizing Mars is straight. However,
Speaker 1: sci fi and space exploration in an ideal world should
Speaker 1: be queer, right, So what is the solution like, how
Speaker 1: do we reclaim the idea of you know, being being
Speaker 1: enraptured by infinity? This is such a tough question now,
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty easy answer.
Speaker 7: Oh, I mean, I don't know. I feel like this
Speaker 7: is another like CIS and trance thing, Like you think
Speaker 7: there's an answer like no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Period like yeah no, But it's like that, it is.
Speaker 7: It is just an eternal cycle, right, Like there's always
Speaker 7: going to be like a bunch of us going out,
Speaker 7: Like if you don't fit into society, you go out
Speaker 7: and find new societies that you might fit into, and
Speaker 7: that's queer and that's cool and that's great. Also, if
Speaker 7: you don't fit into society, maybe you're just a terrible person.
Speaker 7: You get like cast out and if yeah, I don't
Speaker 7: know consequences. I feel is like the main issue here.
Speaker 5: You know what I think would really powerfully LGBTQ plus
Speaker 5: getting stuck in space.
Speaker 1: Haven't you seen that Matt Damon movie He had to
Speaker 1: piss on the potatoes And what's not LGBTQ plus about that?
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 1: It is a part of kink positive piss play. I
Speaker 1: guess I'm a potato pick. He's a potato big he's
Speaker 1: doing intrimidtent fasting. He has a very strict diet.
Speaker 3: I think there's something about the one the wanting when
Speaker 3: you're like, I'm mostly thinking of the film Gravity, but
Speaker 3: when you are Sandra Bullock and you are stuck in space,
Speaker 3: you're LGBTQ plus Oh you mean stuck literally like you're like,
Speaker 3: how the hell am I gonna get hold?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: By the way, if you or in orbit, of course
Speaker 1: that's queer. But if you're on Mars, that's straight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like you're buying property and it's like, no, no,
Speaker 3: the most queer you can be a Sandra Bullock just
Speaker 3: being like whoa. When I saw that, I was like,
Speaker 3: I feel so seeen.
Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well and and also while we're on space, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: have we already discussed whatever.
Speaker 1: Pluto's up to? Wait, you're the person asks what the
Speaker 1: hell is Pluto up to?
Speaker 7: I mean, it is a big chunk of rocks that
Speaker 7: is out there in the universe.
Speaker 3: Again, it's a chunk of multiple rocks. Yeah, I was going,
Speaker 3: see this.
Speaker 7: Is this is again the cis trans thing, because it's like,
Speaker 7: oh cares, whether.
Speaker 1: Is okay?
Speaker 7: I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Yes, Pluto is just Pluto is just Pluto. I'm really
Speaker 1: understanding what's going on here, which is I think it
Speaker 1: is Mars exists. Okay, let's start there. It is, it
Speaker 1: is cis to try to bring it to human terms. Yeah,
Speaker 1: would you say that's accurate? Yeah, yeah, it was like,
Speaker 1: oh that's nice. It's like, okay Mars. Right.
Speaker 5: You know what's another LGBT thing would be to go
Speaker 5: to Mars and instantly die because you you met it
Speaker 5: where it's at, that's right, said, I see you, thank you,
Speaker 5: I'm dead.
Speaker 1: Right, it's like your fault. What are humans do here?
Speaker 1: Oh not not? Okay? Right? See all right?
Speaker 7: Which is also yeah, I mean where this comes into
Speaker 7: as my as a lesbian like that, like factors in
Speaker 7: as well. I was thinking with your like divorce and uh,
Speaker 7: because divorce is the lesbianis thing of all? Well of course, yes,
Speaker 7: oh we both hate each other. Let's drag this out
Speaker 7: for years. Yeah. I think the straight thing is having
Speaker 7: a mistress. I think that's the yes, that is, of.
Speaker 1: Course, is having a miss and les I mean lesbian
Speaker 1: sometimes get divorced without even getting married first.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that is real truth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's that's actually an even bigger form of intimacy.
Speaker 1: Sometimes on a first date they'll be like, I want
Speaker 1: to get divorced.
Speaker 3: God, I wish we could go into a big legal battle.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well so so you see my grinder profile.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm feeling like I understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I actually, but guess what is understanding? Sis?
Speaker 3: No, okay, that would be such a funny shape, like no, sweetie,
Speaker 3: oh sweetheart, oh sweetie, No, you.
Speaker 1: Happened out area for a long time. Simple. Okay, Well
Speaker 1: give it up for Amy Schneider. Everybody give it up again?
Speaker 3: From up Chasha.
Speaker 1: Wow wow wow.
Speaker 7: Wow wow?
Speaker 4: Can I do two quick updates?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 1: Please please?
Speaker 4: I didn't give my final My final takeaway from intimacy
Speaker 4: works right, And I thought about in the story, and
Speaker 4: there is a very cute by man in the audience
Speaker 4: who has DMed me and is down to do the
Speaker 4: dating game tomorrow. So I feel like that's huge. It
Speaker 4: was it's it couldn't be huger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what's his name? Because he actually should get
Speaker 1: kicked out.
Speaker 5: You're not suposed to be on your phone. Be here
Speaker 5: with us, please, Mosha's not going anywhere.
Speaker 4: But okay, my my takeaway that I forgot to say
Speaker 4: My real takeaway, because I was so busy trying to
Speaker 4: get this this by male representation, which thank you for participating,
Speaker 4: is is that that when you're in a relationship and
Speaker 4: when you're it comes back to, even with what everybody's
Speaker 4: been saying about how hellish the world is, when you relationship,
Speaker 4: not just with another person, but with this hellish world
Speaker 4: it is, you get into this grind of life where
Speaker 4: negativity is the only thing that will raise you out
Speaker 4: of your stupor in order to focus on actually engaging.
Speaker 4: That's why we go to therapy because we're so miserable.
Speaker 4: That's why you go to an intimacy workshock because you've
Speaker 4: been fighting so much with your partner. And my big
Speaker 4: takeaway was we never take a pause to do something
Speaker 4: intentionally positive. And that was like a giant shift in
Speaker 4: my relationship and in my relationship with the world. And
Speaker 4: I think as you go to your fiance, fiance, fiance
Speaker 4: and everybody, even if you're even if you're even if
Speaker 4: you're single, taking time in the in your life to
Speaker 4: say I'm going to set a date to do something
Speaker 4: that is infused with positivity, it was. It's a huge
Speaker 4: shift and it's changed my relationship and it can change
Speaker 4: your life too, and it is the straightest thing you
Speaker 4: can do.
Speaker 5: Wow, that's nice to say you, but motion we are
Speaker 5: an anti gratitude podcast.
Speaker 4: I am on a lot of MDMA right now. I
Speaker 4: should have said that for context.
Speaker 1: Mosha, you would love the album Radical Optimism by Dua Lipa.
Speaker 3: It's quite a rich text when you really dive into it.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it might be time to do our
Speaker 1: first segment. I think it is, guess.
Speaker 5: Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment,
Speaker 5: we're going to ask you a series of rapid fire
Speaker 5: questions basically this thing or this other thing, to gauge
Speaker 5: your familiarity with and complicity in straight culture. The only
Speaker 5: rule is you can't ask a single follow up question
Speaker 5: or we will be so so upset.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, got it? Yes? Okay, squad AI or gay
Speaker 1: guy Gay guy.
Speaker 4: AI is a gay guy If you ask enough questions.
Speaker 1: That's t actually spilled. Okay. Rejecting the TikTok ban or
Speaker 1: premiering at Can, premiering it can.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we're bout forty five, it's going to
Speaker 4: be premiering a can has nothing for us?
Speaker 5: Okay, being lost in music or getting slashed in Munich.
Speaker 1: I'm a Jew, so I'm gonna go ahead and not
Speaker 1: do Munich.
Speaker 7: Oh. I was gonna say being slashed in Munich. But
Speaker 7: it's just a dream. I haven't achieved it yet.
Speaker 1: The first step is dreaming. First step is dreaming. First
Speaker 1: at Munich, next at Mars. Okay, ethical polyamory or congressional gerrymandering.
Speaker 7: Whoa, I hate them both so much. Yeah, I guess
Speaker 7: ethic apology.
Speaker 1: They're both really bad, tough and actually rampant in this state.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go with unethical polyamories.
Speaker 1: You're saying neither, Oh.
Speaker 7: No, I will settle on ethical polyamory.
Speaker 1: I have everyone always does.
Speaker 7: I have been to an orgy. I get it. I know.
Speaker 1: Okay, the most unexcited anyone who has ever been to
Speaker 1: sound Everybody here, this is San Francisco.
Speaker 7: Everybody here has been to a boring orgy.
Speaker 1: And the only person who hasn't is that bye boy
Speaker 1: that's about to be on one tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Okay, Donald Trump's inauguration or Forrest Gumps jog through the nation.
Speaker 7: Of forest Gumps jog through the nation.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with the I just really respect intellectual fortitude,
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go with Forrest Gump as well.
Speaker 1: Control all delete or lather rinse repeat, Oh, lather rinse repeat.
Speaker 4: Control all delete, because it wouldn't it be nice to
Speaker 4: control all delete? A lot of things that have happened recently.
Speaker 5: Okay, sex positivity or next, you're not for me?
Speaker 7: Uh? Sex positivity? Hey, area, come on, I.
Speaker 4: Think we've established that I am ashamed of my own sexuality,
Speaker 4: so it's going to be next, not for me?
Speaker 1: And finally, the Princess Bride done.
Speaker 4: Princess Bride?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree?
Speaker 7: Second, second, yeah, but read it just in care.
Speaker 1: The Christ he dies.
Speaker 7: That does not affect mine, okay, and I.
Speaker 1: Do not think that means what you think it means. Okay, Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm excuse me as you will. It's a line from
Speaker 1: the movie The Princess. Thank you. Yes, yes, yes, I
Speaker 1: was so scared. You're about to be a shooter. You
Speaker 1: think that's how it happens. They just burst into a
Speaker 1: high school, as you.
Speaker 3: That was so scary.
Speaker 1: I was like, what is this code? I'm by Wait,
Speaker 1: you think that school shooters are ren fair cause players?
Speaker 3: I mean, you have to admit if they're shooting at school,
Speaker 3: there's gonna be some drama.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing about school shooters. They are addicted
Speaker 1: to the drama. Literally. Yeah.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 7: My younger brother was like, like goth the emo kid
Speaker 7: when column mine happened, and he's like, I am just
Speaker 7: being goth and dramatic. I'm not about to kill everyone.
Speaker 7: But everyone's like, oh, you draw weird pictures your notebook
Speaker 7: and he was so devastated.
Speaker 5: God, your your brother literally being like, I'm not dramatic. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't know what everyone's saying.
Speaker 1: I'm dramatic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Well that was an incredible performance. I think
Speaker 5: we read our guest on scale of one twent thousand dollars,
Speaker 5: and I think you.
Speaker 3: Both hit nine eighty eight.
Speaker 1: I agree with it. All right, Okay, we have to
Speaker 1: keep things moving, you guys, because it's literally three am
Speaker 1: my time. So our final segment is a second we
Speaker 1: like to do at all our live shows called issue
Speaker 1: there Yet, and I will explain the story behind it
Speaker 1: and then and then we'll get to it. So our
Speaker 1: dear friend, past guests of the podcast, Celesyim. Many many
Speaker 1: years ago, many many years ago, they were at the
Speaker 1: Toronto International Film Festival, tiff if you're in the industry,
Speaker 1: And they were at the premiere of the Grace Jones documentary,
Speaker 1: and then afterwards there was a talk back with a
Speaker 1: director and the director was saying something along the lines of,
Speaker 1: you know, they don't make icons like Grace Jones anymore.
Speaker 1: There's no icons anymore. And someone in the audience said,
Speaker 1: what about Janelle Manet and the director said, she's not
Speaker 1: there yet. She's not there now. We've never commented on
Speaker 1: whether or not we agree on that, and we never would,
Speaker 1: especially in San Francisco, not to be a bitch, but
Speaker 1: from that story, the game issue there yet was born.
Speaker 1: It's quite simple. We're gonna show you a series of people, places, things,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna basically all have a really open and honest,
Speaker 1: intimacy building conversation and they're gonna be you know, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be barrier themed. I would say, well, of course.
Speaker 1: So first lide San Francisco legend. N Is she there yet?
Speaker 1: She's so close, you guys, she's so close. One wrong step,
Speaker 1: you know, she just took one out step. What do
Speaker 1: you think. No, I've met her. You've met her? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I sworn to secrecy.
Speaker 4: I never met her, but I met her husband late
Speaker 4: one night at their house.
Speaker 1: Ah, that was me. That was after the intimacy workshop.
Speaker 5: That's all right, You're like, I have all this negativity.
Speaker 5: I need to take it out of someone.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna say. I mean, I hate to say.
Speaker 1: You know, she looks so happy in that photograph, which
Speaker 1: was taken many months ago. I am gonna it seems
Speaker 1: like the consensus is, no, she's not there yet. I
Speaker 1: got next line, next line. San Francisco legend Gavin seen
Speaker 1: here on the cover of the knob Hill Gazette.
Speaker 4: Now he is there. I mean, I can't believe. I
Speaker 4: cannot get over the fact that he used to date
Speaker 4: Kimberly Gilfoil and that Donald Trump Junior now dates Kimberly
Speaker 4: Gilfoyle and they look like the same guy. But if
Speaker 4: one of them went to Slytherin. I completely agree with.
Speaker 1: You, Mosha. My political views is I think he is.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is the face of someone who is there. Well,
Speaker 1: it's like, I even think.
Speaker 3: The way that he starts a conversation implies how there
Speaker 3: he is.
Speaker 4: He's there, and by there we mean in the vagina
Speaker 4: of his best friend's wife, Like that's how there he is.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I guess you know, he is there
Speaker 7: as the avatar of like he's you know, Nancy Pelosi
Speaker 7: is over. He is the next generation of democratic failure.
Speaker 3: He is if Nancy Pelosi took the substance.
Speaker 1: He Okay, all right, he's there.
Speaker 4: He's there as an Adam Michelin star restaurant during a pandemic.
Speaker 1: Alright, is she there yet? So he unveiled this new version.
Speaker 1: It hasn't been beta tested yet. What do we think?
Speaker 4: No, no, I pick you guys are misunderstanding the question.
Speaker 1: It's not Are they good? Yeah? No, no, have they arrived?
Speaker 4: And he's definitely arrived version Absolutely, Darth Zuckerberg is among us.
Speaker 1: Like he's so.
Speaker 4: I mean, we should have seen it coming when he
Speaker 4: displaced all people in Maui for his mansion.
Speaker 1: He's there.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna, you know, respectfully disagree because here's the thing,
Speaker 7: Like he's trying to do this whole thing, but like, dude,
Speaker 7: look at your face, look at your hair. This is
Speaker 7: not a thing you can become.
Speaker 1: Right, It's just not possible. I think you're so right.
Speaker 5: I think there's something so like this is the first
Speaker 5: day after Christmas break and he's wearing all his new clothes.
Speaker 3: And it's like you have to slowly roll these things.
Speaker 1: Out totally, yeah, altely.
Speaker 5: And it's like almost implies like in a year he'll
Speaker 5: be something completely different, like next year he's going emo,
Speaker 5: Like we don't know.
Speaker 4: He definitely went to like a beta male workshop at
Speaker 4: the same place I went with the same harmonium guy.
Speaker 4: That's like you can be alpha brot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you guys took completely different things out of that.
Speaker 3: So so sorry, are you guys mad at George?
Speaker 1: Okay? Next line? Micro climate? Is she there yet?
Speaker 7: I mean she has been there in the main area, Yeah,
Speaker 7: but she maybe micro climates this whole time I do, I.
Speaker 1: Mean micro cli. It's so it's sort of like she's there,
Speaker 1: she's here, Where is she? It's a little bit like
Speaker 1: I think micro climates are like an alt girl. Yeah
Speaker 1: they're Caroline Polochech.
Speaker 3: But even like yeah, maybe, yeah, what do you think
Speaker 3: I do?
Speaker 1: I do not know what a micro climate is. As
Speaker 1: a very native to this day, I we didn't talk
Speaker 1: about things like that back then. Was a gentrifiers term.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right.
Speaker 7: It did suddenly because this is this is where revealed
Speaker 7: Mosha is the actual native. I'm the one that only
Speaker 7: moved here in two thousand and nine. Mosha doesn't know
Speaker 7: what a microclimate is, the same way that fish don't
Speaker 7: know what water is. Like, that's just what it is
Speaker 7: out here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, interesting, huh so sort of No, everyone's saying no,
Speaker 5: I guess what I'm really saying is what is a
Speaker 5: micro climate?
Speaker 3: Do you all want to say it?
Speaker 1: In Unison?
Speaker 5: Whenever I come to this damn town, everyone's like, well,
Speaker 5: it's because of the microclimb.
Speaker 4: Well, I do actually think it is kind of a
Speaker 4: gentrifiers term because similarly to what happened to Oakland, where
Speaker 4: all of a sudden they were creating out of whole
Speaker 4: cloth neighborhoods I'd never heard of before, Like this here
Speaker 4: is not Billy. Will you not heard of that neighborhood?
Speaker 4: This is also phenomenon this maybe this was just rain
Speaker 4: when I was growing.
Speaker 1: Up totally, And I actually think it goes back to
Speaker 1: your point back categorization, like cutting up a city into
Speaker 1: smaller and smaller and smaller pieces is is heteroizing it.
Speaker 7: Well, I don't know, I mean, I just like I remember,
Speaker 7: like having lived out here for a while flying to
Speaker 7: New York, staying at a place that was in like
Speaker 7: Brooklyn or Queens or something, and being like, well, I'm
Speaker 7: going to Manhattan tomorrow and checking my weather app and
Speaker 7: being like, no, what's the weather in Manhattan going to
Speaker 7: be like tomorrow? And then realizing, oh, no, this isn't
Speaker 7: the Bay Area. It's just going to be the same
Speaker 7: weather kind of everywhere all around, whereas here, like you
Speaker 7: had to you had to do that. So that's that's microclimates.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it sounds like she's on her way.
Speaker 3: She's still finding her voice.
Speaker 1: She's finding her voice next time. Micro fucking. I just
Speaker 1: want to say I made this. I just thought. I
Speaker 1: just thought Jared Leto like has the vibe of my
Speaker 1: I've never read anything about it.
Speaker 4: I thought that was Russell brand Man, and she's there.
Speaker 4: Russell's there in the arms of Christ. He's doing amazing micro.
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, how do you think I did so
Speaker 7: well on Jeopardy?
Speaker 3: Did they drug test you for Jeopardy? No, that's an
Speaker 3: amazing detail. Actually, yeah, were you high?
Speaker 4: For real?
Speaker 3: Will they take away the money? If you say yes, I.
Speaker 7: I spent it, So I hope not not. In my
Speaker 7: original run, but maybe for some of the later tournaments
Speaker 7: maybe a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well now you're a star, there's more pressure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like, you're like, what is anything that's good? Thanks? Okay?
Speaker 1: So yes, so yes, all right. Next there, next line, microaggressions.
Speaker 4: I think she's gone.
Speaker 1: I think she's was there five years.
Speaker 4: I think we're post to microaggression, microroggressions.
Speaker 7: Nobody needs to bother with them anymore. Just aggressions, aggression.
Speaker 3: Soon to be four white people being like, we're post microaggression.
Speaker 1: Damn, they like don't matter anymore. Man, Yeah, but we
Speaker 1: kind of ate with that.
Speaker 9: Next live, next line, Okay, Well, Apple watches does bring
Speaker 9: us back to my hobby of surfing, of.
Speaker 4: Course, because Tesla finally has integration with surf Line finally,
Speaker 4: and and I can and I can open it, and
Speaker 4: I do drive a Tesla because I support what the
Speaker 4: CEO does politically needless to say, and so I it's
Speaker 4: very for me personally in my micro climate.
Speaker 3: She's the there Wow, any thoughts.
Speaker 7: I mean to me? No, Like, I mean, that's my
Speaker 7: own perspective. Every time I see somebody like do something
Speaker 7: with their Apple Watch, I'm always surprised I agree.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 7: Oh whenever, oh, there's still out there's still out there.
Speaker 5: Whenever I see an Apple watch, like I get filled
Speaker 5: with like a sadness, like I feel like I'm watching
Speaker 5: like a space shuttle not quite take off, because.
Speaker 3: There's something so like, oh, you almost have us.
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't.
Speaker 4: And I don't mean to make this political, but for
Speaker 4: you to even mention space shuttles not taking off after
Speaker 4: I mentioned my CEO, I just just that was a
Speaker 4: bit of a microaggression.
Speaker 3: No, thank you for calling me, and I appreciated it.
Speaker 1: And this is now. Microaggressions are only towards white man.
Speaker 3: Okay, ox next, liidei pants?
Speaker 1: Is she there?
Speaker 3: You? Who has them?
Speaker 1: Who has who has? Where is that my sexual guy?
Speaker 1: I'm sure all his closed are high tech?
Speaker 3: Oh you know they have little events everywhere.
Speaker 1: Bisexuals love wearables.
Speaker 3: Publish that.
Speaker 1: Publish that in the San Francisco Chronicle. What do we think?
Speaker 4: I'm sure they're they're sure they're there there.
Speaker 1: Wow, I guess they're on top of a bike.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, oh I think so, they're they're both.
Speaker 1: They're they're great.
Speaker 7: Because it's like it's like a day to night outfit.
Speaker 7: They're like both pre and post apocalypse. Ready, Oh, I love.
Speaker 1: That they what I am not pre or post sex
Speaker 1: Ready get them.
Speaker 4: What I have enjoyed about men's fashion in the last
Speaker 4: ten years is that it is shifted from structure to comfort.
Speaker 4: And I feel like I spent a decade suffering in
Speaker 4: red wings and structured genes, no offense at all. But
Speaker 4: now there are events. Now there are there's wind blowing
Speaker 4: through it. She is there.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, she's there. Next line, hate Ashbury hippies. Are
Speaker 1: they gonna make a comeback?
Speaker 7: I mean, hello, hello, Yeah, they are in Oakland.
Speaker 1: Right, They're They're just not in the hate. Yeah. I saw.
Speaker 4: I don't know if this answers your question, but I
Speaker 4: saw one of the craziest street fights I've ever seen
Speaker 4: in my life on Hate.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 4: There, it was all the It was the kids that
Speaker 4: lived in there used to be a housing project at
Speaker 4: the bottom of Hate and it was them, those teenagers
Speaker 4: versus the like like Hemp, homeless, you know, and literally
Speaker 4: the wizards were throwing staff they were fighting with staffs,
Speaker 4: and they were throwing quarts at the people. They I'm
Speaker 4: not joking, like there was there was Hemp weponry and honestly,
Speaker 4: the hippies won that afternoon. I'd never seen anything like
Speaker 4: it in my life. And it was a bit of
Speaker 4: a of a microdose where they are and they're.
Speaker 1: Out for blood all next line public issue there.
Speaker 7: If she was I would be nude right now.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, what do you think?
Speaker 4: I don't mind public nudity. But I did have a
Speaker 4: friend staying with me recently. We went surfing and he
Speaker 4: doesn't wear underwear, and we were and we were getting
Speaker 4: changed and he and he changed very boldly with like
Speaker 4: children about and I was like, you're allowed to not
Speaker 4: wear underwear and be that guy, but not you can't
Speaker 4: force everybody to be that guy with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where it gets really complicated.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 1: You're sort of one of these like you're like, no,
Speaker 1: I can't get Pride.
Speaker 3: You're like, surfers are grooming our children.
Speaker 1: There children out there.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm a no king.
Speaker 1: Christian might be okay with me watching gate board, but
Speaker 1: he's not okay with someone whipping their cock out on
Speaker 1: the beach.
Speaker 4: I'm a no kink at Pride because I work for
Speaker 4: Pepsi and we're sponsoring.
Speaker 1: Wow, and that, you know, brings us to our final segment, thank.
Speaker 5: You Pepsi, Yeah, where everyone actually says thank you Pepsi one,
Speaker 5: two three, thank you, You're welcome.
Speaker 1: Do you have any final thoughts about public nudy?
Speaker 5: Well, I I guess I just wanted to say. Sometimes
Speaker 5: I think I'm so chill when it comes to public nudity,
Speaker 5: and then i see like a like a nude family
Speaker 5: and I'm like stop it.
Speaker 3: Like when I met I was okay with public nudity.
Speaker 3: I met gay guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and in my apartment yeah, like not like dad
Speaker 1: and son like stop. Yeah. All right, I think next
Speaker 1: lade as the last. All right, Wow, wow that was
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