1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Who do you who? Everyone, Today, we are releasing our 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: live show from this past weekend at SF sketch Fest 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: featuring Mosha Kasher and Jeopardy icon Amy Schneider. We are 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: so gratefully both did the show, and we're so happy 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: you guys sold out Cobb's Comedy Club. We had such 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: a great time in San Francisco. Huge shout out to 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: the whole sketch Fest team for having us, and to 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: motion Amy for being so game and just so funny 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: and generous and smart. It was a really, really lovely 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: night and a great weekend before this insane week And 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: so we hope you enjoy the show. We love you, 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: and we'll be back with normal episodes next week. 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: Bye. 14 00:00:53,680 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: Wow wow wow wow wow wow wow. Podcast starts starts now. 15 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: And guess what I did that wrong. Let's take it 16 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: from the top. Live show starts now. The one thing 17 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: Sam said to me was, so we're doing live show 18 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: starts now? I said, correct, correct the window. 19 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: I meigo, why would I need to ask? 20 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: Why? Why would you need to tell me that? 21 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: First of all, how's everyone doing? 22 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 23 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: What's up you guys? I just want to say your 24 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: city has had such an amazing effect on the world 25 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: globally and politically, and it is an honor to be 26 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: here celebrating your achievements tonight. Congrats to us, all, Congrats 27 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: to us all. Congrats on a TikTok band. You guys 28 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: did that. You did that, We did that. We're not 29 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: going back. I can't wait. We're so we're really pro 30 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: TikTok man on a pod. Is it because we've never 31 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: quite cracked it? 32 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: Okaybe no, that's not why it's that. Couldn't be it. 33 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: It's just because we love Instagram reels so much. Yeah, 34 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 3: it's I have no hate for TikTok, I just love Instagram. 35 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 36 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: We just think Mark Zuckerberg is like a better entrepreneur 37 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: and he deserves a success more than whatever that other 38 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: guy's name is. 39 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: Plus his makeover is awesome. Yeah wait, that's. 40 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: Coming up later. But we're so pro Mark Zuckerberg's makeover. 41 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: He looks so fucking hot, you guys. I wish he 42 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: was here. 43 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 5: I learned something kind of groundbreaking today. George has met 44 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 5: Mark Zuckerberg. 45 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 6: Yep, better believe it isn't that weird? Yes, real resounding, Yes, 46 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 6: you know you know the content. Thank you for having context. 47 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 6: Queen in the house. Get this, we have a context, diva. 48 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 6: Get this, Diva. I worked at Facebook. 49 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: He's one of you, over a decade ago, over a decade, 50 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: back when. 51 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: Back when Facebook was still. 52 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: Punk, back when Facebook was still punk. And the big 53 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: controversy my first week. Let me know if you remember this, 54 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: I know this is a gen Z slash Gen Alpha crowd. 55 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: The big controversy in my first week there was the 56 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: Emotional Contagion study, which is when they gave some people 57 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: negative content and some people positive content without asking for 58 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: their consent, and then they like saw how that affected them. 59 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: Doesn't that seem so quaint? Can you imagine? That was 60 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: like a month long media cycle. Now now they're murdering 61 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: people anyway, So how. 62 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: Did they risk on in the office? What was the 63 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: vibe like? 64 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: Well, I walked in and I said no more of 65 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: that and not enough, and they made me VP of Emotion. 66 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: So that's happened. So that happened. So that's happening tomorrow. 67 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: TikTok is going blank. It's on Sunday whatever, I'm on 68 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: New York time. It's after midnight for me, and then 69 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: and then Monday and Monday we have the inauguration. So again, 70 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: congrats you guys, you guys, congrats all of that. It's 71 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: going really well. What else was on our mind? 72 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 5: It's funny because like I really I still want to 73 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 5: dig into this TikTok thing a little. 74 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. 75 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: Is anyone here sad about it? Is anyone here happy 76 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: about it? 77 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? The hell I thought this was a tech town. 78 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: You guys have moved on. You guys are like TikTok 79 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: is so like it's so like I feel like here 80 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: they have already have a different a VR hologram app 81 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: that they're all doing. 82 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 5: George, I have to tell I think, I think I 83 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 5: have to tell you something. 84 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: Tell me. 85 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: So what I was about to say was that this 86 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 3: that was a very divisive response, and I realized something 87 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: today that I think you guys will resonate with you all. 88 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: When someone says, at least I sparked a conversation, they've 89 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 3: lost the argument. 90 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 5: When someone says, well, I've created a dialogue, yeah, that 91 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 5: means they've made zero points. I'm kind of obsessed with 92 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 5: it as like, well, good or bad? We're speaking, Yeah. 93 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: Good or bad. San Francisco's the land of contrast, and. 94 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 3: I find that to be so so powerful. So it's 95 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: like that TikTok thing. I was like, Wow, no one 96 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: can say we didn't start a conversation tonight. 97 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: But don't you think that's like them? That is what 98 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: social media is. It's like, well, they're all talking, that's 99 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: what When Mark Zuckerberg is doing his is at the 100 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: congressional hearings, answering questions, They're like, are they murdering? He's like, yeah, 101 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: but they're talking. I love that. We're a tech podcast. Yeah, 102 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: We're a tech podcast and everyone loves it. Wait. We 103 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: also wanted to talk about how this is so far 104 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: the worst year ever. Thoughts, how's everyone's year? Is anyone's 105 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: zero off to a good start? Oh? 106 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 3: Yes? The context eva? 107 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: Oh oh do you I'm so shocked that the context 108 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: eva has had a good year because I feel like 109 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: it's not a good year for context. Do you guys 110 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: think twenty twenty five is good for Do you think 111 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: context is in or out? In twenty twenty five? Out out? 112 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. To me, the peak of no 113 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: context was Kamala is Brat And so now I think 114 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: the fact that the fact that people rejected that means 115 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: there was hunger for context, but people don't know where 116 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: to look, so they're like him, like, you. 117 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 5: Know, I think, no matter what, no matter who wins 118 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 5: the election, at least we're talking about context. 119 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: And by the way, by the way, yeah, we're still 120 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: talking about the election as if it hasn't happened. It'll 121 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: happen when we say it does. They haven't finished counting 122 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: the votes, you guys. 123 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 3: Seriously, if we all get on our phones right now, 124 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: we can change a vote. 125 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: Who's voting late? Do you guys vote late? So okay, 126 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, we were literally recently actually having a 127 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: conversation about what is one good thing that happened in 128 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five? And you famously said, I've been sleeping, well. 129 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: Spilled, I have been sleeping so incredibly well start to finish. 130 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: Oh wow, what else? There was one more thing? Oh no, 131 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: all right, what context queen? 132 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: Context Queen says, what context Eva says? 133 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: What new insult just dropped? Wow? Damn. I like the 134 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: idea of context Diva being potentially even a government position 135 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: that you can be elected to. She's running for you know, 136 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: she's running for context Diva. She was controllers so she 137 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: would be pretty good at it. She's just used to 138 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: context and things being in or out of it. So 139 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: this is actually kind of a big idea. I think 140 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: context Diva how localize? Are we thinking? 141 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: Well, I think we need the one on the state 142 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: and national level. 143 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: No, because here's the thing. Sometimes you know, you'll get 144 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: Kamala talking, You'll get Frum talking. There's no context. We 145 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: need someone to come out. She's wearing a pinstripe suit, 146 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: she's a lesbian, yes, and she opens a book. I 147 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: think it's an amazing idea. 148 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 5: I mean, I do think calling you know, essentially we 149 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 5: have context Diva's already. 150 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: In the historians. 151 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 3: Sure, but I guess it's like so I hear a 152 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: historians and I'm like, no, yeh, get you know. 153 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: What else I do that for journalists? Like context Like 154 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: who's academic? Are you kidding me? 155 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 5: I'd rather jump off a cliff. I'd rather jump off 156 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 5: a cliff. But when I hear context Eva, I'm like work. 157 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: But here's the thing, I'm almost like, it ruins it. 158 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: If she is elected democratically, Not to be anti democracy, 159 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: but it's like, guess who's else is elected democratically? All 160 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 1: the other losers that she's in charge of keeping in 161 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: keeping track of. 162 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: Well, there will be no ethics in the context diva industry. 163 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: I think what it should be it should be, Is 164 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: this good? 165 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 7: Excuse me? 166 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: Yes, go ahead. 167 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: I think the context diva should be more of a 168 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: spiritual position. 169 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: Well, of course, I think you should almost be in churches. 170 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 5: And I think when you're speaking like say, like the 171 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 5: spirit takes you, you can be context diva. 172 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 3: Oh you can be like actually it was like this 173 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:49,359 Speaker 3: in the seventies. 174 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: I see. Well, here's the real dark darkness of all 175 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: of this. Guess what democratized being a context diva. TikTok 176 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: you open TikTok, you open one of these social media apps. Folks, 177 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: everyone thinks they are context diva these days, so much 178 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: so there's so much context that we exist without any context. 179 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: Or being overly context being overly. 180 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: Maybe the issue all along wasn't that we lacked context. 181 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: It was that we had too much context and not 182 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: enough content. 183 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 5: George, can I be completely honest with you? That was 184 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 5: context Diva. 185 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: But suddenly I saw, because here's the thing kt Tunstaul 186 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: original context Diva. 187 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? Oh? I'm scared? Actually, content creators. 188 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: All right, get ready, content creators, what are they actually doing? 189 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: Just commentating? They're not creating anything original. They're actually context creators. 190 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: What content creators are doing are taking existing content and saying, 191 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, in the nineties, you know Kate Moss like 192 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: walked in this runway and then she did this, and 193 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: that's not content. They're actually just creating context. So all 194 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: we're doing is we have a pre existing content. No 195 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: new content is being made, but we're just recontextualizing it 196 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: and recontextualizing it based on everyone's weird little biases. George, 197 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: thank you, context Diva. 198 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like, g George, you're scaring people. 199 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: This is crazy. 200 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: There was a moment when it really felt fire and brimstone. 201 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: Do you feel like I'm making a point that felt accusatory? No, no, no, 202 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: no no, I genuinely can't tell. 203 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 5: I think you are making a point. It's just like 204 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 5: it's getting complicated because I think we're forgetting that we're 205 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 5: at a comedy show. 206 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: So this is a podcast about straight culture, and what 207 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: usually happens is we'll think of different topics and I 208 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: guess you could say contextualize them based on whether they 209 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 1: are straight or gay? Would you say that's correct? 210 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 3: I would say that's one hundred percent correct. Context Diva. 211 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: Is that Context Diva? Do you agree? 212 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: Oh? 213 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: Shure, they make attention. 214 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: This has been notarized by the context Diva. 215 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you are wh. 216 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: Well that's crazy. 217 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 5: Did everyone see that? 218 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: That was insane? Not to be a bitch but I 219 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 3: called that out? 220 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you did. That was crazy. So I'm having 221 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: such a difficult time because I just want to theorize 222 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: context EVA for another hour and a half. And I 223 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: know that no one wants that, Okay, but keep going. 224 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: So we're basically we're gonna we each thought up some 225 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: sort of straight topics and we want to run them 226 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: by you, and we want and maybe debate even with 227 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: one another, and and sort of talk through what's gay 228 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: and what's straight that we're noticing in the world. 229 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 5: And I'll start go, I have something that I think 230 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 5: is very straight, and I it is having a sweet tooth. 231 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: This is this is interesting. This is interesting. 232 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 5: I think having a sweet tooth is extremely straight because 233 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 5: because the LGBTQ plus people, we have addictions. 234 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's like commit to something. 235 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 5: It's like ooh, I love chocolate. It's like my friend 236 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 5: is on meth. Like when when I hear like. 237 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: Oh, I have such a sweet tooth, I'm like, you are, like, 238 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 3: have you ever been out of the house? 239 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: Having a sweet tooth is like microdosing being bad? Yeah, 240 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: your entire religion is should we be bad? 241 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 3: Having a sweet tooth is being like I shouldn't say it, but. 242 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, it's like, shut the fuck up. 243 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 4: Yeah it's I. 244 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 5: I literally couldn't think of something more humble, something more 245 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 5: like I haven't been out of my home? 246 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, having a sweet tooth. 247 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 5: But you know I have to I have to give 248 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 5: a little context you. I just came to mind because 249 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 5: I did hear a gay guy say it. 250 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: Well, of course, I mean listen on the other you know, 251 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: to play Devil's Advocate context eva, if you will. On 252 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: the okay, that deserves an applause. But on the on 253 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: the other side of things, not too late. On the 254 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: other side of things, there is something about having a 255 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: sweet tooth that gives Sorry, gay guy, adult living with 256 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: his mom. She's asleep, He's going to the fridge, don't 257 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: you think. And I have to tell you the context 258 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: is that this guy had a he was a gay 259 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: guy with a Southern accent, so he would say I 260 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: have such a sweet tooth. Oh yeah. 261 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 5: And and by the way, he studied well fully nude 262 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 5: of course, right, So that's important. 263 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: Contact There's something about being in the South that really 264 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: brings out the horseshoe theory. You know, things, straight things 265 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: become gay, gay things become straight. Sweet become savory. By 266 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: the way, you know, what is the gay equivalent of 267 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: having a sweet tooth? Being like, I actually prefer savory? Okay, 268 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: drag my ass? 269 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: And also I know that's my favorite thing is to go, oh, 270 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: that's too sweet. 271 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: Well I was about to say, of course, the corollary 272 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: of that is, that's not too sweet? Is it? When 273 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: ordering a cocktail? And guess what, spoilerler, it's gonna be 274 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: too sweet. It's gonna be too sweet. It's gonna go 275 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: ahead and be too sweet. Yeah, okay, So George, do 276 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: you have one? Yes? I had one? Okay, So I 277 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: was thinking, do you guys know way Mo is only here. 278 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: You guys think it's normal. You're wrong. You think it's normal. 279 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 4: I think it's normal. 280 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:55,119 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm a normal, normal, blue blue bladed sure American. 281 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm coming here. I'm coming here straight off the bus. 282 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: I see a car, there's no driver in it. I'm 283 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: calling the police, and people trust this do just every time. Okay, 284 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: this is a legitimate question. Everyone answered the same time. 285 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: When you get in one, are you like. 286 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, or are you literally like. 287 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 5: No, okay, You're like, you're like filming, everyone's filming. What's 288 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 5: I gonna do? 289 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: Are you all creating content? Slash context? So I got 290 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: in my I got in my weaimo, and I went 291 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: to Sweet Maple for brush. I got the Millionaire's Bacon 292 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: because I heard it was really good. I'm sorry, all 293 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: my references are about fifteen years old. Okay, So you 294 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: think I think waymo, Well, it's complicated. Here's the thing. 295 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: I definitely think obviously gig guys also are evil in 296 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: their own way. But I think I think acting so 297 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: much on the instinct to not want to talk to someone, 298 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: specifically when in customer service, because that's basically where it 299 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: comes from. It's people that don't want to say one 300 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: single word to their human identified uber driver. 301 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: Which, so by the way, can be one of life's 302 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 3: greatest pleasures. 303 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and we'll have you know. 304 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 5: Actually, though we were in a human operated uber today 305 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 5: and we were crushing. 306 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: We were the way we realized. 307 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: We were having a normal conversation on the back. At 308 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: some point we hear, well, look at each other, we say, 309 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: let's give this man a show. 310 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: I'd say, we got more ten minutes, ten more minutes 311 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 3: on this thing, let's fucking go. 312 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: And then I was literally like, all right, what do 313 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: I got? What do I got? I read that Nelly 314 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: is performing the inauguration. I say, I'm yelling, I'm really 315 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: speaking for the back, for the back. I'm like, what 316 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: is it gonna do hot in her? 317 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: The man starts applauding, Oh my god, Oh my god. 318 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 3: I mean, so there's the thing straight. 319 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: People don't want to speak one word to their human 320 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: identified uber driver. So they literally got military funding to 321 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: make self driving cars. So what end? 322 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 5: And just to counter you slightly, please, it is a 323 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 5: little bit GI guy coated to be like I'm driving. 324 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: Well, okay, yes, you're. 325 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 5: Like there is something to be like, let's just see totally. 326 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: But I know you mean there's also a personal touch there. 327 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: Of course, of course there's a personal touch. Yeah, okay, 328 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: what was your other one? 329 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 3: Okay, my other one is this is well, everything I 330 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: do is controversial because I men'swear. 331 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: So men'swear is straight? Is the contention? People are scared. 332 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: People are waiting with baited breath. 333 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, are you guys okay? Yeah? Are you choking? Are 334 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: you guys choking on your tenders? Right now people are 335 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: taking off their Evan Canori jackets and throwing them in 336 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: the trash? All right, context even, no, go ahead. 337 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 3: I think men's wear is like, okay, so clothes or 338 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 3: gay guy. 339 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 5: Everyone knows this obviously, but but gay guys know that, 340 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 5: like clothes matter when a woman wears them. 341 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: Right, Like that's fashion. Yeah, yeah, like. 342 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 5: When a man Like there's this thing happening with men's 343 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 5: wear where it's like like almost being like. 344 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 3: I can take care of myself in fact, I don't 345 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: need anyone. 346 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's like turning into this like armor of 347 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 5: like thousand dollars watches. 348 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: So, by the way, let women have one thing they 349 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: can't have fashion now you're doing fashion for men. 350 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: I just I would say. 351 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: It's in cell coded if anything, so quite literally, it's 352 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: literally like I like clothes because I can't find a woman. Yeah, yeah, 353 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: are they by the way, they're also okay? First of all, 354 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: when women dress for other women, that is we're gonna 355 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: go ahead and say sleigh boots. When a man dressed 356 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: for another man, it's like, how about you go to therapy. 357 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 5: There's something I can't elaborate, but militaristic about it, of course. 358 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 5: And it is like when you see like a stylist 359 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 5: dressing a woman. Yeah, and it's a gay man. He 360 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 5: always looks horrible. That's high design, yes, because he knows 361 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 5: that his clothes do not matter. 362 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to have you have to be egoists. 363 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: You have to forget who you are and lose yourself 364 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 3: in the in the textures. 365 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, in the vibrant hughes. Yeah. It's also like develop 366 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: any other hobby, you know what I mean? Of course 367 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: I always agree with you. Hold on, I'm looking at 368 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: my list. Okay, So my other one was gonna be 369 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: Cheryl Samberg because just to go with a Mark Zuckerberg, 370 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: because guess what, you know what you know we haven't 371 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: heard from in a while. Cheryl Samberg? Where the hell 372 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: is she? Does anyone know? She's actually here? Must be 373 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: her moment. 374 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 3: I could have been right. 375 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: I was right before. Can you do? 376 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: George did an incredible impression. 377 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: No, I wasn't doing an impression. She just she has 378 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: the perfect tone where she's like, on the one hand 379 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: being so like, so the way this is gonna work. 380 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: So what we did with this product is we wanted 381 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: everyone to be empowered to talk to their cousin if 382 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: they wanted to. But also, of course, if you want 383 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: to set off a bomb and for it to go 384 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: off in the Middle East, you can do that as well. 385 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: And so she she she is able to like add 386 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: a sort of like I would say, professorial auntie vibe 387 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: to describing let's say, mass murder, you know, And I 388 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,719 Speaker 1: think that's what you have to look for in an executive, 389 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: of course. But the point is now she's completely disappeared. 390 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: Well, George, why can't she because she's a woman? 391 00:21:52,840 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: Yes, Contextiva, is her behavior approved or no, oh, that's a. 392 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 3: First bureaucracy is getting in the context. 393 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: Okay. I sort of wanted to do the Bush era 394 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: thing that we were talking about. You have to remind me, Okay. 395 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: So we were saying, you know, obviously we're about to 396 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: enter another trump eras so we were like, which disgusting 397 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: parts of the last time conservatism was endemic are gonna 398 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: come back, And I was saying, I think spring Break 399 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: slash Girl's Gone Wild culture is gonna make comeback. But 400 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: this time it's gonna be talk about context less like 401 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be so confusing, whether it's 402 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: empowering or not. Like Girl, if the Girl's Gone Wild 403 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: version today is gonna be run by a like burnt 404 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: tan woman from Florida who's like a billionaire. 405 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's gonna be like like, Unfortunately, my mom 406 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 3: is gonna sort of be like, I think it's cool. 407 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 3: She's like, I think it's cool what they're doing, and 408 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: I think we should be allowed to express themselves. 409 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: And then guess what in the next Trump administration that 410 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: woman is going to be ambassador to the US thoughts. 411 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: I think this is one hundred percent genius. 412 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes it scares me when you predict things because 413 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 5: they will come true. 414 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean, do you remember when I predicted aerobics was 415 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: gonna make a comeback and then literally Jane Fonda is 416 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: doing it for Meta. 417 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: Did you guys know which of you signed off? 418 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: By the way, where's her statement? She's still working with 419 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: Zuck Wow Hannoy Jane. They called her I'm right wing. 420 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: All right, should we get the show started? What do 421 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: you think? Yeah? What do we think? 422 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: Should we get the show started? 423 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, we have to say we have two 424 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: guests that I'm incredibly excited by. Well, I was about 425 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: to say both bear Well Media. No, no, no, that's what 426 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: I was God, say both Barria Natives. We did find 427 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: out one of them is a Barry native. One of 428 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: them has lived here since two those nine, which to 429 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: my mind counts. I think it counts. So I think 430 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: this is a hometown glory style show. And of course 431 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm a hometown native because I worked at Facebook in 432 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, so you know, we all get it here. 433 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm hometown. I was here for a wedding two 434 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 3: years ago. 435 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, please get a way, mo I'll meet you there. 436 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: Our first guest, you are going to absolutely go hogwild 437 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: for him. He is in fact doing his own podcast show, 438 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: Endless Honeymoon tomorrow at four pm. 439 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 3: As part of this best part of this festival. 440 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: Even. Please start clapping now, give it up for Mosha cash. Wow, 441 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: grab a chair, grab all Mike. 442 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 4: Where is she? 443 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: Where's the queen? 444 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 7: Oh? 445 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: Wyeah context context Eva. I just had to contextualize who 446 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: you are. 447 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 4: Nice to see you. 448 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: Wow, how's it going? Are you inspired by the context? 449 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 3: Yes? 450 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: This morning, I mean it was really psychedelic. It was 451 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: really cool. Yeah, any thoughts about any of the amazing 452 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: points we've made so far? 453 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 4: I thought you both were charming and killed Oh perfectly. Yeah, 454 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 4: that was really the scuttle butt up in the green 455 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 4: room is these two boys are killing right now. 456 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: Wow. 457 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: I will say it didn't go quite as well as 458 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 3: it did with our uber driver today, but we still 459 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 3: appreciate all the laughs, y'all. 460 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: I didn't love the points you made about men's wear, 461 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: but other yeah, you know, I was thinking that as 462 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: we were saying it, I was like, you are clearly 463 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: someone who dresses well and likes how you dress. 464 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 4: Like I would consider myself an in cell per se. 465 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: No, I as I was saying it, I said, I 466 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: could see you sort of backstage hovering, And I said, yeah, 467 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: I saw the glimmer of that night. 468 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 7: Yet. 469 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 4: No, it's just I'm not he's probably on Reddit right now. No, 470 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 4: because like I fucked my wife like all the time. 471 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 4: You know, you know, you know what I mean, I'd 472 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 4: be like Bob mother my child. 473 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: You know this is so cool. 474 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 4: I'm just trying to bring really kind of like dick 475 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 4: swinging straight energy right now. 476 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, well there's anything that's dick swinging. It's a 477 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: Japanese cardigan and crossing. You're like, damn, damn, damn got 478 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: his ass so well. 479 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: I just wanted to say that. 480 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 5: I brought it up because men was close to me 481 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 5: and the siren song always calls, and I always say 482 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 5: stop it. 483 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: I don't want to be a part of this world. 484 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 4: Oh you want to you want to dress I want 485 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 4: sometimes I don't want to say better, but you want 486 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: to dress better. 487 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 3: I think we both it calls to us, but I 488 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 3: know it's bad. 489 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: I think for us, men's wear is like if we 490 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: were evangelical Christians, menswear would be porn. Like we're like, 491 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: we want it so fucking bad, but we know, but 492 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: we think it's immoral. 493 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 4: Can I can I tell you something gay? 494 00:26:59,440 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: Please? 495 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 4: I would love the gay straight about porn that happened 496 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: to me very recently, like last night, and it involves 497 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 4: my wife, who you know, I'd be fucking on a 498 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 4: regular basis. 499 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: Fuck man, serious, fuck. 500 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 2: She? 501 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 4: I think it was. It might have been last night 502 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 4: actually was like we were talking about something, and she 503 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 4: was like, and that's why you that's why you exclusively 504 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 4: jerk off to gay porn. Oh, that's what she said 505 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 4: to me. 506 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: Did she mean lesbian porn? 507 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 3: No? 508 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: Oh okay? 509 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 4: And I said what? And I guess early in our 510 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 4: relationship I told her that I have jerked off to 511 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 4: gay porn and she assumed that that was the exclusive content. 512 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: We're married ten years. That's wild and she thinks that 513 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: that's the only pornography that I consume. She is so accepting. Yeah, 514 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: you would think it would be a fucking red flag. 515 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 4: It's basically you, babe, and then it's gotta be man exclusively, 516 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 4: like you are gay? You are a gay man. 517 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: Maybe she thought she turned to that gay. 518 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 3: Oh that's cool. Did did did you feel like was 519 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: it hard to dispel this rumor without seeming defensive? 520 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: No? 521 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 4: No, yeah, you don't want to be all at all, actually, dog, 522 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 4: because you know it's like I no, I I It 523 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 4: was so confusing to me that she had taken one 524 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 4: small detail and superimpose it over what I would say 525 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 4: is a nightly hobby of mine. 526 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: Jerking offs are gay porn? Yeah, which is just general general? Sure, 527 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: what percentage are we talking is gay? 528 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 7: Yeah? 529 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 4: Wait what percentage? 530 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: What percentage of the porn you jerk off to is gay? 531 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 4: It's just the one time I mentioned my wife. Okay, 532 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 4: I would go ten, I would go ten, I would 533 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 4: go ten. 534 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: And can I ask you this is by the way, 535 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought this to us. What is 536 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: it about it? What is what is context? Diva? Hear 537 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: me out? What is the context here? 538 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 4: Well, what do you mean? What's the context? I got 539 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: a boner and lotion. I'm horny. 540 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: Sure. 541 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 4: No, Actually, now that we're bringing this up, it is 542 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 4: my topic. 543 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: Uh okay, wait wait, so you said you had a 544 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: bunch of topics. 545 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 4: No, this is my topic. Jerking off to gay porn 546 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 4: is straight? No, I'm just kidding. Okay, I fully believe 547 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 4: what's the content? Why you're saying I guess what I 548 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 4: mean is. 549 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, try to tap into your inner sexuality. 550 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: What what's what's speaking to you about it? Here's what 551 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: I love about this, And this is how this is 552 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: actually very dick swinging of you. I'm asking you what 553 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: is the context of you jerking off to gay porn? 554 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: And you're like, what the fuck do you mean? 555 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 4: Here? 556 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: You are talking about jerking off to gay porn. You're like, 557 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: what's the issue in which I love? 558 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 4: I would say the context is I am an officionado. 559 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: Sure of all porn and it's all hot to me. Yeah, 560 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: well not all. 561 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 4: There's one category I don't fuck with obviously, that's interracial. 562 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 4: But no, I just I once in a while, I'm 563 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 4: in a mood. It's a piccadillo, you know, I would 564 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 4: say I I would say I'm ten percent gay, ten 565 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 4: percent trans, eighty percent just meat. 566 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: Meat and potatoes. 567 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Wow, well that was really amazing. 568 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: Thank you for talking about give me up. 569 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 4: Thank you, that was vulnerable space. Thank you for opening 570 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 4: this queer space. Of course, listen, I guess come out. 571 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 4: I guess yeah, honey, I'm seeing the headlines already. 572 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: I love it to come out and immediately be like 573 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: my wife thinks I only dronk off to gate porn. 574 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: The fuck is her problem? Bitch? Well where else than 575 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: radio la? 576 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 4: Am I going to admit this? 577 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: Okay? 578 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 4: Mosha, I'm Mosha, Mosha. 579 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: We heard that you actually came with not one topic 580 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,239 Speaker 1: but several that you wanted to run by. 581 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 4: It wasn't even that, it was that I was struggling 582 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 4: with my sexuality. Of course, we know to come up 583 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 4: with every topic that I came up with as uber straight, 584 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 4: immediately felt gay again. And you said that that's an 585 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 4: ongoing theme. 586 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't, it's a problem. 587 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I at first I thought about like my hobby, 588 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 4: which is surfing, and I'm like, actually, there's nothing gayer 589 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 4: than surfing. You know. It's like you put on like 590 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 4: a skin tight rubber suit with your buddies and then 591 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,719 Speaker 4: you all lay face down and you get really excited 592 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 4: when there's a big swell, you know, like yeah. And 593 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 4: then I was like, let me go really straight UFC. 594 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, I don't. That's that's as 595 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 4: gay as anything is. I was like, okay, how about 596 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 4: like fingering. It only took me a few moments to 597 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 4: realize the flawed my logic and a few memories from 598 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 4: the catch on my computer, and then I was like, well, 599 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 4: how about like come comes pretty straight? 600 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 7: Right? 601 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? Like it shoots, you know, it's like, yeah, it's violent, 602 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: it blasts. You know, it's straight. You're lucky. It's white stains. 603 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's straight, it's white, it's male. 604 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 7: Wow. 605 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: But I only landed on on intimacy workshops. 606 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 3: It this is so huge. 607 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 4: Because I went to one two weeks ago with my wife. 608 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Ah. 609 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 7: So cool. 610 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 4: Actually it was more it was more of a of 611 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 4: a porn detox than an intimacy No, it was it. 612 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 4: It was a real intimacy workshop. And we noticed that. 613 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 4: And this is I'm noticing already that there's a bit 614 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 4: of a slant towards gay men on this show. 615 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: Would we say, oh, oh yeah, yeah, well we try, 616 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, we used to try to be more inclusive. 617 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: I think we've sort of given up recently. I mean, 618 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, after the. 619 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 4: Election, every couple was there were no gay male couples. 620 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 4: There were twenty two couples, and there were some lesbian 621 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 4: couples and the rest were straight couples. And we were 622 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,239 Speaker 4: Natasha and I were asking ourselves, where is where are 623 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 4: the gay men? Where where are they? And we were like, oh, 624 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 4: they're probably like having fun or something somewhere. 625 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: So we can answer that for you. It's complicated. So, 626 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: as we've said before on the pod, divorce is lesbian 627 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: right and staying together forever, but being violently unhappy as 628 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: game of guys because they're all open. So if they're like, 629 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: let's say you go home to your husband. You literally 630 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: hate each other, can't stand each other. There's no reason 631 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: to change anything because you're already having the sex you 632 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: would be having otherwise. You see what I'm saying. 633 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're like, you're like, you come home, you throw 634 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 5: your keys down. Your husband says like, huh, finally you're here. 635 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 5: You pick your keys back up, You're going to the bathouse. Yeah, 636 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 5: oh that sounds great. 637 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 638 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 4: A straight relationship you just go, yeah, I'm here, and 639 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 4: you sit down on the couch. Yeah, and dig in. 640 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 4: What is straight? What's straight? 641 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: Lesbian is divorce, staying with somebody straight somewhere in the middle. Yeah, 642 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: straight is like being moderately happy in your second marriage. 643 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's sort of like, well 644 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: I reached, like this is sort of the best that 645 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: can probably get married. Yeah. Yeah. No, Sam is sorry, engaged, 646 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: but in. 647 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 3: Like an put it put in like an alternative way. 648 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: Sam is obsessed with being fully in the price of 649 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: planning a wedding, but not saying that he's engaged. Sorry, 650 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: am I calling you out? 651 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 7: No? You do? 652 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 4: You call him your fiance? 653 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: God? No? Now, how good? That's too basic or something? Yeah, 654 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: what is he a lesbian? 655 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? So why weren't they Why weren't they there? 656 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 5: They don't no, I think literally George is right, they're 657 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 5: like out there like spending the money you spent on 658 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 5: that to like go to fire Island and hook up 659 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 5: as many people as they Yes. 660 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: Their therapy is having three or their intimacy workshop is 661 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: literally fucking another guy. 662 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 4: Okay. 663 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: I have pitched that to my wife so many times. 664 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: The thing is it does help? 665 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 4: Yeah does it? 666 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: Oh? 667 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 7: Actually? 668 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? Wait. 669 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 4: You'll have a conflict with your partner and then go, 670 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 4: well when. 671 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 5: You're feeling a little bland and you're like, okay, it's 672 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 5: time to mix it up, Like who are we anymore? 673 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 5: It's like then you have sex with a third person 674 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 5: and you're like, oh, that's who I am. 675 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: That's cool. See I do that, but it's I keep 676 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 1: it a secret from my wife. 677 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 3: Oh wow, yes, that's why it's okay, yeah, wait, don't 678 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 3: you don't put this podcast out. 679 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 5: I'm curious, like, in this intimacy workshop, what we're like, 680 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 5: what were. 681 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: They getting up to? Like, because I actually am also very. 682 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 5: There's an element of this that feels very LGBTQ plus 683 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 5: where it's like, so you're all getting horny together. 684 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 3: Oh, we weren't. No, we weren't. 685 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 4: We weren't fucking each other. 686 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: So here's what Sam is referring to. It's like there 687 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: are actually they're one of the reasons I will say 688 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: you didn't see gay men there is because there are 689 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 1: intimacy workshop adjacent things like that that are like men only. 690 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot of like men only things that you 691 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 1: don't hear about that are like sort of bath house 692 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: adjacent culture. Well, they'll they'll phrase it like reconnect with 693 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: your body. 694 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it's like a Lingham covering or where 695 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 4: it'll be like everyone is edging right, but like there 696 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 4: is also a psychoanalyst present. I got it. 697 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: He's the guy you come off you do watch. 698 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 4: Can I can? I? By the way, tell you I 699 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 4: don't know this. This is weird. It's back to gay porn. 700 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 4: But I was in a in a circle jerk when 701 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 4: I was a teenager with with one gay man and 702 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 4: a straight friend. Everybody here is just like, Okay, you're gay, Mosha, 703 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 4: that's what's happening. No, you're Oakland. It reads similar, but uh, 704 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 4: it was in the nineties This was in the nineties 705 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 4: and gay I don't know if you remember this gay porn. 706 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 4: They used to do multiple cum shots of the same 707 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 4: com like it would be a guy like oh, and 708 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 4: then there would be another angle and the same guy 709 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 4: would have uncome. 710 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm familiar. 711 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: Do they not do that in straight porn? No? Multi no? 712 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 4: Oh, we like cinema verite. Okay, you can't come twice? 713 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: Did someone just go awe? 714 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 4: It was between an awe and an eu. 715 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: Context E has thrown out her notebooks. She's like, they 716 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: are all okay, so all right, but I do want 717 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: to get into the specifics of what else happened at 718 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: this workshop. 719 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 4: Okay, well it was. It was conducted by an old 720 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 4: hippie couple and the man. The man started. There was 721 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 4: a lot of funny things that happened. But the man 722 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 4: he had a harmonium. Let's start there. You know what 723 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 4: that is. It's like a It's like a cross between 724 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 4: a It's like an if an accordion was on psychedelic 725 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 4: drugs kind of. It's like a thing that you do 726 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 4: this with and then you play. And he would sing 727 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 4: songs and they were very bad. 728 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: I can see the auronicism in that. 729 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, they were really bad songs, but they were kind 730 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 4: of beautiful too. It'd be like a everybody, hello, love, 731 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 4: and he would say everybody before he had sung the 732 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 4: whole song, so we'd be like, what do we and 733 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 4: it would but they were very basic love hippie kind 734 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 4: of like loving is good, loving is God. You love 735 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 4: love and we would all have to sing together. And 736 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 4: then his wife was there. He was a psychiatrist and 737 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 4: she was a psychiatric nurse. They'd been together sixty years. 738 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: They were all over each other. 739 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 4: Like constant touching, fondling. He mentioned the fact that he 740 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 4: had cheated on her within ten minutes of the beginning, 741 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 4: and that was sort of the That was the table setting, 742 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 4: and then opening night. We went around the room and 743 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 4: everybody said their biggest vulnerability. Everybody, everybody and people we 744 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 4: didn't know would say their biggest vulnerability. And that was 745 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 4: really super intense and once you got really vulnerable. After that, 746 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,760 Speaker 4: I kept thinking we were going to talk about fights 747 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 4: that we were having, and it was It wasn't. It 748 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 4: was really very positive stuff. It was like what do 749 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 4: you love about your partner? What do you can you 750 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 4: your memories when you first met them and and it 751 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 4: was actually a super beautiful experience. 752 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 3: So this is so different than what I was expecting. 753 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: Sam, What did you think? 754 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 5: I'm like, so, when does the porn come on? Okay, 755 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 5: when do you start touching each other? 756 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: Oh? I see what you're saying. You thought it was 757 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: a sexual intimacy work. Yes, Oh okay, okay, this was 758 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: more of a It was like it was therapy adjacent. 759 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 1: It was like, okay, building intimacy with your partner. 760 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 4: I think I figured it out. Emotional intimacy, emotional tea 761 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 4: is straight. 762 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah. I would say there's a spectrum and it's like, 763 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: emotional intimacy is lesbian. Yeah, straight is down the middle, 764 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: right zero. Emotional intimacy is gay guy. Yeah, I think 765 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: there's something to that. Okay, here's my sort of first 766 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: thought about this. The emphasis on positivity to me, feels 767 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: very straight because it feels like a sort of it 768 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: feels like upworthy videos, Like it feels like a cliche 769 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: ridden yeah, Like it's literally like, guess what it is. 770 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: It's literally love wins, Like that's what you're doing. It's 771 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: like you are saying we have issues and someone's. 772 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 4: Like, sh it was sponsored by the Lincoln Project. 773 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 3: Of that. 774 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: That would be iconic if the Lincoln Project sponsored intimacy 775 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: workshops for. 776 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 4: Lesbians not to be not to be too sincere. But 777 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 4: the the the the dodging of conflict was its secret sauce. 778 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 4: I thought, like I said, we were going there to 779 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 4: like work on ways to fight better, and instead we 780 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 4: spent the weekend talking about how much we loved each other, 781 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 4: which wasn't really the primary thing we were thinking about 782 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 4: on the way up there, And it somehow changed the 783 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 4: topic in such a way that it was it was 784 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 4: really healing, and it was. 785 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: It is it the content to keep going? 786 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 4: Is this a form out of your show? I had 787 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 4: this like realization that you would be and you as 788 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 4: a married man and you as a as a fiance. 789 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 4: I was like, why wouldn't you do this once a 790 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 4: year or once every two years, do a tune up? 791 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 4: It was tune ups. I think we can all agree, 792 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 4: very very stressing. 793 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: Well again check the tires, babe. 794 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I yeah, I mean I think I think that's 795 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 5: part of stray cultures I really relate to. Actually, is 796 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 5: there's this thing like I remember one time, like five 797 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 5: years ago, my partner and I were arguing a. 798 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: Lot, and. 799 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 5: My guy, my best guy, and I were arguing quite 800 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 5: a bit, and there was a moment where we're like, 801 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 5: you know what, let's just bury it, like, let's actually 802 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 5: not discuss it anymore. 803 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 3: We're actually just gonna be like enough moving on. And 804 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 3: it helped so much. 805 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So basically, you guys, you guys are repressed. You 806 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 1: guys are literally rebranding wasp culture to make it more 807 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: like burning Man like it's and I think he's genius. 808 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 4: Literally the opposite of intimacy is that is right, exactly. Yeah, 809 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 4: I'm getting really close to like an emotional truth for you. 810 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 4: So what I'm gonna do is suggest that you build 811 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 4: a callous over it. We never revisit it. 812 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 1: I think it can be so empowering. Well, here's what 813 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: I'll say. What if the agreement to create a callous 814 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: is the most intimate thing you could do at the 815 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: end of the day. 816 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, But by the way, that should have been my 817 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 4: applause break. I just didn't bring it up quickly enough. 818 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 4: That's how it felt. It felt like, even through the 819 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 4: corniness of the harmonium, even through the like the weird 820 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 4: flakiness of this situation, showing up was like eighty percent 821 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 4: of what this whole thing was. So basically, anyway, that's 822 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,280 Speaker 4: the reason I came on the show. I'm actually planning 823 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 4: an intimacy workshop for gay man only. 824 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, And it basically what it is. 825 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 4: You all stand in a circle, you stare at each other, 826 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 4: you say your biggest vulnerability in the and you all 827 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 4: just sort of ejaculate on me. 828 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: Like that, and then you'll get to create some of 829 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: Mosha's favorite videos. 830 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 4: No, that is the video. 831 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 5: Wow, well that sounds amazing. All right, any final thoughts 832 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 5: on an intimacy workshop. 833 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 4: I do have a final thought. This is uh for 834 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 4: the for your audience, We're strugg Our podcast tomorrow is struggling. 835 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,720 Speaker 4: We have sold five tickets. No, I'm joking or very popular, 836 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 4: but but we are doing a dating game segment and 837 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 4: there's a there's a woman coming up that is going 838 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 4: to do like classic dating game but show number two 839 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 4: best or number three. She's queer, and we have two 840 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 4: women and we would love a man if there is 841 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 4: a man that dates women in the audience. So you're 842 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 4: you're like, I'm a man, but you thought I was 843 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 4: just like if there is a man. 844 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 3: The fingers started flying and if there's only like one. 845 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 4: You know, come talk to me after the show. But 846 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 4: any further thoughts on intimacy workshops, I honestly think if 847 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 4: you're in a relationship as corny as they are. It 848 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 4: was one of the coolest things that I ever did. 849 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 4: And it was really funny because there were couples in there. 850 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 4: There was one couple that had been together sixty years 851 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,240 Speaker 4: the people that were leading it. Another couple been together 852 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 4: fifty plus years, and the woman was in her last 853 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 4: I think two or three months of life and they 854 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 4: were dedicating themselves to put making those last three months 855 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 4: intimate and loving. And I know that's that's getting right 856 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 4: to that callus that you built over with your with 857 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 4: your fella or your guy pal or whatever. 858 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,280 Speaker 1: They should have gone to Berlin. 859 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 4: And then there were other another couple was there. They 860 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 4: were like, we've been together since May. Oh yeah, and 861 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 4: they were just high on cocaine the entire time. 862 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 5: Yeah damn well give it up emotion cash everybody. 863 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 1: Thank you, see you later. That was amazing. Wow wow 864 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: wow wow wow wow. That was incredible. That was that 865 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 1: was electric. That was electric. Then narrative to come out with, 866 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 1: like you know, haha, gay porn and then to end 867 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: on Love Conquers All. I witnessed a sixty year relationship 868 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: like reach its pinnacle in front of me, and then 869 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: she died. God, it would have been so great for 870 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: the story if she died the end. I know, Oh 871 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: that's too bad. 872 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 3: Did you all learn something about intimacy? 873 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 1: Okay? I want to know, San Francisco, make some noise. 874 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,479 Speaker 1: If you have been in anything that could be called 875 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: an intimacy workshop, that's pretty good about Okay, I would 876 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: have thought more. 877 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 5: Maybe I want to say, this thing keeps happening tonight 878 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 5: where like there will be like this. It's sort of 879 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 5: one of my favorite things is where there will be 880 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 5: three people that go like this, and it actually sounds 881 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 5: much sadder and if there was no applause, that's true. 882 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 5: It is genuinely. When I hear that, I'm like, damn, 883 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 5: like queer art of failure. 884 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 1: Wait, can I'll tell you something? This is so smart 885 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: actually because guess what is like the sign of silence 886 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: is crickets. It's not actual silence, like there's something about 887 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: there's something about are you hearing this something? 888 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 3: Sometimes you can be louder than silence. 889 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,720 Speaker 1: Fuck, like actual silence is in silence. 890 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 5: Damn, George, you are so smart. Wait I also just 891 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 5: confess something. Oh, when Mosha was doing the like fake 892 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 5: straight guy handslaps. 893 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: So you twice to me zero times, there was one 894 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 1: time where he went like that and I literally didn't 895 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: act fast. 896 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 5: Enough and then was over the way that I genuinely 897 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 5: felt taken taken in that was like, like. 898 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I trust he picked favorites and it did not 899 00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: go unnoticed. 900 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 3: Well, maybe our next guest will also pick favorites, but 901 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,959 Speaker 3: the opposite way, so that, Oh my god, let's hope. 902 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 1: So you guys, anyway, I feel like I just sounded 903 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: like Busy Phillips. 904 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 3: You guys, which would be an honor to sound like Busy. 905 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: That's right, or I or like Rachel Zoe. Okay, I'm 906 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: dad about this next guest. 907 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 3: I'm doad. 908 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 8: I die, I die, I die way out at the 909 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 8: mac Ala in the bathroom, I was literally dad, and 910 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 8: now I'm trying to I'm not talking about my mouth anyway. 911 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: So she is quite literally one of the smartest women alive. 912 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 3: I want to say, that's what they're that's what they're 913 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 3: telling me. 914 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,760 Speaker 1: That is what I think. She was voted smartest woman alive. 915 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: She is an absolute legend and an icon. She has 916 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 1: a memoir alcoholed in the form of a question, look 917 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: at us promoting worse. I'm literally so good at promoting. 918 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: Please give it up for Amy Schneider. 919 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 7: Yes, I am the I am the smartest woman alive. 920 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 7: That's true. 921 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, congrats on that, by the. 922 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, because like definitely, you know, knowing the capital of Lichtenstein, 923 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 7: That's that's what smart means. Like, yeah, that's that's why 924 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 7: I am. 925 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: Is the capital of linkedn' signed Lincoln's sign? Or is 926 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: that just Luxembourg? 927 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 7: That's Luxembourg, classic classic trap. 928 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 1: That's a classic trap lit dudes. Oh of course, Well 929 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,439 Speaker 1: that was maybe my second guess. 930 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course it was. 931 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Amy, first of all, how's it going. Yeah, let's 932 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: start there. Let's start there. 933 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 7: Oh, dish, you're still asking people how things are going, 934 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:54,240 Speaker 7: and I know, like the timeline of well, yeah, things 935 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 7: are going fantastic. 936 00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 1: Perfect, I'm so glad. Yeah, but this is my new 937 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: my new character. Go ahead, no, please do it? 938 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 7: No, wow, yeah, no, things are going wonderful. I'm trans 939 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,399 Speaker 7: I just got you know, this election just happened, and yeah, 940 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 7: this is wonderful. I can't even play college volleyball these days. 941 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: And we know, you know, people don't know that your 942 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 1: passion has always been college volleyball. 943 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:22,839 Speaker 7: I know. 944 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: And you actually did Jeopardy because you were hoping to transition. 945 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: That's the real transition is from Jeopardy to college. 946 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,280 Speaker 7: Now that that's been forever taken away from me, apparently. 947 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: That is so sad. I'm so sorry. Yeah, so Amy, 948 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: m hm, did you bring a topic with you and 949 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: can you tell us what it is? 950 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 7: I mean, yes, and yes, okay. 951 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: I'm amazing at my job. 952 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, that was great, well done. It was. It was 953 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 7: a struggle because I was like, at a certain point 954 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 7: dealing with the there's because there's the gay or straight spectrum, 955 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 7: and then there's also the CIS or trans spectrum. 956 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,320 Speaker 1: Correct, right, because a very. 957 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 7: Cis thing to do is to divide things up into categories. 958 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 7: So I had to like work through that. 959 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 1: And then. 960 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 3: If there's one thing we love, it's putting something in 961 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 3: a box. 962 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: Right. But can I tell you something? Theorizing about categories 963 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:24,720 Speaker 1: is trans. 964 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, you got me, You got me on 965 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 7: that one. 966 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,600 Speaker 3: Good job, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean. 967 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 7: I had a lot of different ideas, but like I 968 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 7: felt like the one that somehow felt most appropriate to 969 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 7: this venue is colonizing Mars. 970 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 3: Got it, colonizing Mark colonizing Mars? 971 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 5: And what do you you know, feel straight about that 972 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 5: off the bat, before we really get it into. 973 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 3: What it feels straight about it? 974 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 4: To me? 975 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 7: Is that like it is this idea that like, you know, 976 00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 7: Elon Musk's specifically and a lot of other people have 977 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 7: this idea that's like we're just gonna go to Mars 978 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 7: and things will answers will happen, We'll figure out a 979 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 7: way to do things there. Everything's gonna work out just fine. 980 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh you know. 981 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 7: And I'm like, I'm trans like nothing works out. I 982 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 7: can't even put on an eyeliner, Like I. 983 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 1: Don't like, now you want me to do it in Mars? Right, 984 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 1: what's the gravity even like there? Yeah? 985 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 7: No, I mean, but it is just this like like 986 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 7: bullish confidence, yes that like, Okay, here's what we'll do. 987 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 1: We'll go to MA And I also think you're pointing 988 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:43,280 Speaker 1: to the idea of having a big going big without 989 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,839 Speaker 1: thinking of the consequences or without thinking of the implications. 990 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 1: It's like literally like doesn't that sound cool? And that's 991 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:49,879 Speaker 1: reason enough to do it. 992 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 7: Right, exactly. 993 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a childishness. 994 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 3: The childish it's a childish just because everyone Quinn people 995 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 3: have to. 996 00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:01,359 Speaker 1: Grow up and specifically boyishness. Yeah, yeah, there's something also. 997 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 5: You know when people like get a really big house 998 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,800 Speaker 5: but like have nothing to put in it, that is genius. 999 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: That is what Mars is to me. Yeah. 1000 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, where it's like it's like, yes, we could maybe 1001 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 5: get there, well I mean yes. 1002 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 3: Maybe even live there, but what are we gonna put there? 1003 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 1: Well? 1004 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,879 Speaker 7: I mean yeah, I mean exactly. 1005 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, you have three kitchen islands in 1006 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 1: your kitchen and it's. 1007 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 3: Literally how about you just clean your fucking room? 1008 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah. 1009 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,879 Speaker 7: This is my thing about like like the Elon Musk 1010 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 7: of the world being like, oh, we need to be 1011 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 7: a multiplanetary society like even that like on the scale 1012 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,919 Speaker 7: of the galaxy. It's like ants being like, oh, we 1013 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 7: need to also colonize the kitchen as well as the bathroom. 1014 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 7: And now we're like, you know, doing it. No, we're 1015 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 7: still in this tiny little space. And you know what, 1016 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:56,360 Speaker 7: I'll tell you what's on Mars nothing right, there is 1017 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 7: nothing there. But if you're you just assume that something's 1018 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 7: gonna turn up and be good for you. You're gonna 1019 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 7: be like, oh oh, turns out things worked out all 1020 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 7: right for me after all. 1021 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. There's also a way that thinking big, which is 1022 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 1: so privileged in straight spaces, is actually defense mechanism against 1023 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,840 Speaker 1: not wanting to focus on the small. So it's like 1024 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 1: Elon Musk wants to go tomorrow. It's like call your son. 1025 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 3: Or call your door. 1026 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, question, Oh the context, okay, what is your question? 1027 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 3: What is your question? We always do this with our context, EVAs. 1028 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 1: Is the American tree straight? Oh, so we're just like. 1029 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 3: So we're just saying whatever we want. 1030 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something for our context. Eva, you 1031 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 1: sort of missed the boat on how this marked. But 1032 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 1: I but but okay, but here's but okay. 1033 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 7: But I we can relate that to I think this 1034 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 7: is really vold. 1035 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 1: And you're absolutely right, And now I'm and now I'm 1036 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 1: getting how you made the connection. It's like it's like, well, 1037 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 1: the American dream, of course, the American dream and also 1038 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 1: colonizing Mars both built on infinite growth. It's like you 1039 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 1: can you can do anything. 1040 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,919 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, well, and I mean this is the thing too, 1041 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,280 Speaker 7: Like again, the you know, the the trans thing, because 1042 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 7: like you know, as as a white trans woman, I 1043 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 7: spent so much of my life in straight land, you know, 1044 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 7: and I've lost my train of thought. Hold on, sorry, yeah, 1045 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 7: but it's like, yeah, these things that uh, you know, 1046 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 7: we we're all on the outcast. We get put into 1047 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 7: these places. 1048 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 1: Shit, no, no, look, this is no. I love this. 1049 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 5: And we think, you know, we think your life is 1050 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 5: so glamorous as the smartest woman on earth. But there 1051 00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 5: actually comes with side effects. 1052 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes you can have too many sometimes you can 1053 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 1: have too many thoughts. 1054 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, and people don't talk about that. 1055 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 1: They only talk that's right. 1056 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I don't have to do many thoughts right now. 1057 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 7: But what it is like things start out like the 1058 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 7: tech industry, yeah, the American Dream America itself. All the 1059 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 7: outcasts end up out there, and all the outcasts are 1060 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 7: a combination of gays, straights, queers, and also assholes. Sure, right, 1061 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 7: And then what happens is, as it gets more powerful, 1062 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 7: all the gays, straits and queers get filtered out and 1063 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 7: you're left with just the assholes at the top. And 1064 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 7: that's what's happening with the tech industry right now, is 1065 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,359 Speaker 7: that we've just we're just left with the assholes. 1066 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 1: But here's my question for you. You're saying, initially America was 1067 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: outcasts and then the assholes rose to the top. Are 1068 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 1: the people going to Mars? Is the issue with Mars 1069 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 1: is that it's not the outcast going there? Oh my god. Okay, hold, 1070 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 1: So the issue with colonizing Mars is that it's not 1071 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 1: people that are like, I'm so weird, they'll only get 1072 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,800 Speaker 1: me in Mars. It's not that it's actually right, because 1073 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 1: it's because it's not escaping to a safe space. It's 1074 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 1: literally colonizing and you playing yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. 1075 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,279 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah no, because it's like because I chose this 1076 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 7: because I used to I read like the Kim Stanley 1077 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 7: Robinson Mars trilogy and I loved that stuff. 1078 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah mm hmm yeah. 1079 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 7: And it's like it used to be so promising, just 1080 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 7: like computers used to be so promising that you know, 1081 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 7: the Internet used to be so gay and it has 1082 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 7: gotten so straight because like that's what happens, you know, 1083 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 7: we we've come along, all us weirdos have come out 1084 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 7: and done these new weird things, and then a bunch 1085 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 7: of other It turns out some of us were just 1086 00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 7: like not weirdos. We're just like ass with no constraints 1087 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 7: that are like Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg and just 1088 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 7: want to like bang shit up and do shit. 1089 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,799 Speaker 1: What do you think appeals? So the assholds are the 1090 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,320 Speaker 1: ones planning to go to Mars? 1091 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:13,799 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1092 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 1: Fine, But then there are normal people who are excited 1093 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 1: by that proposition. What's going on psychologically there? Would you say? 1094 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:26,439 Speaker 7: Well, I mean we all, we all wish we could 1095 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 7: go to Mars. We all wish to Mars, right, we 1096 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 7: all wish we could have a clean slate and a 1097 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:30,920 Speaker 7: fresh start. 1098 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: Obviously, Yeah, settle down to the nice alien Sure yeah, sure. 1099 00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I moved to Mars. It's just called La. 1100 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 1: Here's a question. Women are from Mars, men are from Venus. 1101 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 1: Men are from Mars. Women are from Venus. 1102 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 3: Who's from where? Who does what? 1103 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 1: Okay? Was that context eva? 1104 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 5: But the spirit took over? That's our deputy. Yes, the 1105 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 5: context EVA has security. 1106 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, got I gotta got it. Yeah okay. 1107 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 1: So here's my question for you. Colonizing Mars is straight. However, 1108 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 1: sci fi and space exploration in an ideal world should 1109 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 1: be queer, right, So what is the solution like, how 1110 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:29,919 Speaker 1: do we reclaim the idea of you know, being being 1111 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 1: enraptured by infinity? This is such a tough question now, 1112 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty easy answer. 1113 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 7: Oh, I mean, I don't know. I feel like this 1114 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 7: is another like CIS and trance thing, Like you think 1115 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,080 Speaker 7: there's an answer like no, no, no. 1116 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 1: Period like yeah no, But it's like that, it is. 1117 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 7: It is just an eternal cycle, right, Like there's always 1118 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 7: going to be like a bunch of us going out, 1119 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 7: Like if you don't fit into society, you go out 1120 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 7: and find new societies that you might fit into, and 1121 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 7: that's queer and that's cool and that's great. Also, if 1122 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 7: you don't fit into society, maybe you're just a terrible person. 1123 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 7: You get like cast out and if yeah, I don't 1124 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 7: know consequences. I feel is like the main issue here. 1125 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 5: You know what I think would really powerfully LGBTQ plus 1126 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 5: getting stuck in space. 1127 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 1: Haven't you seen that Matt Damon movie He had to 1128 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 1: piss on the potatoes And what's not LGBTQ plus about that? 1129 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 3: That's true. 1130 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 1: It is a part of kink positive piss play. I 1131 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 1: guess I'm a potato pick. He's a potato big he's 1132 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 1: doing intrimidtent fasting. He has a very strict diet. 1133 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 3: I think there's something about the one the wanting when 1134 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 3: you're like, I'm mostly thinking of the film Gravity, but 1135 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 3: when you are Sandra Bullock and you are stuck in space, 1136 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 3: you're LGBTQ plus Oh you mean stuck literally like you're like, 1137 00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 3: how the hell am I gonna get hold? 1138 00:59:59,080 --> 00:59:59,280 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1139 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 1: By the way, if you or in orbit, of course 1140 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 1: that's queer. But if you're on Mars, that's straight. 1141 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like you're buying property and it's like, no, no, 1142 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 3: the most queer you can be a Sandra Bullock just 1143 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,880 Speaker 3: being like whoa. When I saw that, I was like, 1144 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 3: I feel so seeen. 1145 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah. 1146 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 3: Well and and also while we're on space, yeah, I mean, 1147 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 3: have we already discussed whatever. 1148 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:27,040 Speaker 1: Pluto's up to? Wait, you're the person asks what the 1149 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 1: hell is Pluto up to? 1150 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:34,240 Speaker 7: I mean, it is a big chunk of rocks that 1151 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 7: is out there in the universe. 1152 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 3: Again, it's a chunk of multiple rocks. Yeah, I was going, 1153 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 3: see this. 1154 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 7: Is this is again the cis trans thing, because it's like, 1155 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 7: oh cares, whether. 1156 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:48,479 Speaker 1: Is okay? 1157 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 7: I see what you're saying. 1158 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 1: Yes, Pluto is just Pluto is just Pluto. I'm really 1159 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,440 Speaker 1: understanding what's going on here, which is I think it 1160 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 1: is Mars exists. Okay, let's start there. It is, it 1161 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 1: is cis to try to bring it to human terms. Yeah, 1162 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 1: would you say that's accurate? Yeah, yeah, it was like, 1163 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 1: oh that's nice. It's like, okay Mars. Right. 1164 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 5: You know what's another LGBT thing would be to go 1165 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,440 Speaker 5: to Mars and instantly die because you you met it 1166 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 5: where it's at, that's right, said, I see you, thank you, 1167 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 5: I'm dead. 1168 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 1: Right, it's like your fault. What are humans do here? 1169 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 1: Oh not not? Okay? Right? See all right? 1170 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,320 Speaker 7: Which is also yeah, I mean where this comes into 1171 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 7: as my as a lesbian like that, like factors in 1172 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 7: as well. I was thinking with your like divorce and uh, 1173 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 7: because divorce is the lesbianis thing of all? Well of course, yes, 1174 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 7: oh we both hate each other. Let's drag this out 1175 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:55,080 Speaker 7: for years. Yeah. I think the straight thing is having 1176 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 7: a mistress. I think that's the yes, that is, of. 1177 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 1: Course, is having a miss and les I mean lesbian 1178 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 1: sometimes get divorced without even getting married first. 1179 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, that is real truth. 1180 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, here's that's actually an even bigger form of intimacy. 1181 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes on a first date they'll be like, I want 1182 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 1: to get divorced. 1183 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,440 Speaker 3: God, I wish we could go into a big legal battle. 1184 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1185 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 7: Well so so you see my grinder profile. 1186 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm feeling like I understand. 1187 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 1: Yeah no, I actually, but guess what is understanding? Sis? 1188 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 3: No, okay, that would be such a funny shape, like no, sweetie, 1189 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 3: oh sweetheart, oh sweetie, No, you. 1190 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 1: Happened out area for a long time. Simple. Okay, Well 1191 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:57,160 Speaker 1: give it up for Amy Schneider. Everybody give it up again? 1192 01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 3: From up Chasha. 1193 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 1: Wow wow wow. 1194 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:07,520 Speaker 7: Wow wow? 1195 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 4: Can I do two quick updates? 1196 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:10,320 Speaker 9: Oh? 1197 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 1: Please please? 1198 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 4: I didn't give my final My final takeaway from intimacy 1199 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 4: works right, And I thought about in the story, and 1200 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,280 Speaker 4: there is a very cute by man in the audience 1201 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 4: who has DMed me and is down to do the 1202 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:28,439 Speaker 4: dating game tomorrow. So I feel like that's huge. It 1203 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 4: was it's it couldn't be huger. 1204 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what's his name? Because he actually should get 1205 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 1: kicked out. 1206 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 5: You're not suposed to be on your phone. Be here 1207 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 5: with us, please, Mosha's not going anywhere. 1208 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 4: But okay, my my takeaway that I forgot to say 1209 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,000 Speaker 4: My real takeaway, because I was so busy trying to 1210 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 4: get this this by male representation, which thank you for participating, 1211 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 4: is is that that when you're in a relationship and 1212 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 4: when you're it comes back to, even with what everybody's 1213 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 4: been saying about how hellish the world is, when you relationship, 1214 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,320 Speaker 4: not just with another person, but with this hellish world 1215 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 4: it is, you get into this grind of life where 1216 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 4: negativity is the only thing that will raise you out 1217 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 4: of your stupor in order to focus on actually engaging. 1218 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 4: That's why we go to therapy because we're so miserable. 1219 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,640 Speaker 4: That's why you go to an intimacy workshock because you've 1220 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 4: been fighting so much with your partner. And my big 1221 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 4: takeaway was we never take a pause to do something 1222 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 4: intentionally positive. And that was like a giant shift in 1223 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,520 Speaker 4: my relationship and in my relationship with the world. And 1224 01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 4: I think as you go to your fiance, fiance, fiance 1225 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,840 Speaker 4: and everybody, even if you're even if you're even if 1226 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,960 Speaker 4: you're single, taking time in the in your life to 1227 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 4: say I'm going to set a date to do something 1228 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,080 Speaker 4: that is infused with positivity, it was. It's a huge 1229 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,000 Speaker 4: shift and it's changed my relationship and it can change 1230 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 4: your life too, and it is the straightest thing you 1231 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 4: can do. 1232 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 5: Wow, that's nice to say you, but motion we are 1233 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 5: an anti gratitude podcast. 1234 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 4: I am on a lot of MDMA right now. I 1235 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 4: should have said that for context. 1236 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 1: Mosha, you would love the album Radical Optimism by Dua Lipa. 1237 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 3: It's quite a rich text when you really dive into it. 1238 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,440 Speaker 1: Well, I think it might be time to do our 1239 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:21,560 Speaker 1: first segment. I think it is, guess. 1240 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:26,920 Speaker 5: Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment, 1241 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,480 Speaker 5: we're going to ask you a series of rapid fire 1242 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,000 Speaker 5: questions basically this thing or this other thing, to gauge 1243 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 5: your familiarity with and complicity in straight culture. The only 1244 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 5: rule is you can't ask a single follow up question 1245 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 5: or we will be so so upset. 1246 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:46,439 Speaker 1: Go ahead, got it? Yes? Okay, squad AI or gay 1247 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 1: guy Gay guy. 1248 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 4: AI is a gay guy If you ask enough questions. 1249 01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 1: That's t actually spilled. Okay. Rejecting the TikTok ban or 1250 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 1: premiering at Can, premiering it can. 1251 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we're bout forty five, it's going to 1252 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,320 Speaker 4: be premiering a can has nothing for us? 1253 01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 5: Okay, being lost in music or getting slashed in Munich. 1254 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm a Jew, so I'm gonna go ahead and not 1255 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:23,440 Speaker 1: do Munich. 1256 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 7: Oh. I was gonna say being slashed in Munich. But 1257 01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,240 Speaker 7: it's just a dream. I haven't achieved it yet. 1258 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 1: The first step is dreaming. First step is dreaming. First 1259 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 1: at Munich, next at Mars. Okay, ethical polyamory or congressional gerrymandering. 1260 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:50,880 Speaker 7: Whoa, I hate them both so much. Yeah, I guess 1261 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:51,680 Speaker 7: ethic apology. 1262 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 1: They're both really bad, tough and actually rampant in this state. 1263 01:06:55,880 --> 01:07:01,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go with unethical polyamories. 1264 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:07,760 Speaker 1: You're saying neither, Oh. 1265 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 7: No, I will settle on ethical polyamory. 1266 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,160 Speaker 1: I have everyone always does. 1267 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 7: I have been to an orgy. I get it. I know. 1268 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,800 Speaker 1: Okay, the most unexcited anyone who has ever been to 1269 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 1: sound Everybody here, this is San Francisco. 1270 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,520 Speaker 7: Everybody here has been to a boring orgy. 1271 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,320 Speaker 1: And the only person who hasn't is that bye boy 1272 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:36,560 Speaker 1: that's about to be on one tomorrow. 1273 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:45,360 Speaker 3: Okay, Donald Trump's inauguration or Forrest Gumps jog through the nation. 1274 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,000 Speaker 7: Of forest Gumps jog through the nation. 1275 01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with the I just really respect intellectual fortitude, 1276 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,320 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go with Forrest Gump as well. 1277 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:10,120 Speaker 1: Control all delete or lather rinse repeat, Oh, lather rinse repeat. 1278 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,400 Speaker 4: Control all delete, because it wouldn't it be nice to 1279 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 4: control all delete? A lot of things that have happened recently. 1280 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:24,680 Speaker 5: Okay, sex positivity or next, you're not for me? 1281 01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 7: Uh? Sex positivity? Hey, area, come on, I. 1282 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,680 Speaker 4: Think we've established that I am ashamed of my own sexuality, 1283 01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,160 Speaker 4: so it's going to be next, not for me? 1284 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:42,080 Speaker 1: And finally, the Princess Bride done. 1285 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:42,840 Speaker 4: Princess Bride? 1286 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree? 1287 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:48,320 Speaker 7: Second, second, yeah, but read it just in care. 1288 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:49,759 Speaker 1: The Christ he dies. 1289 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 7: That does not affect mine, okay, and I. 1290 01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:01,599 Speaker 1: Do not think that means what you think it means. Okay, Wow, 1291 01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm excuse me as you will. It's a line from 1292 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,320 Speaker 1: the movie The Princess. Thank you. Yes, yes, yes, I 1293 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 1: was so scared. You're about to be a shooter. You 1294 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,200 Speaker 1: think that's how it happens. They just burst into a 1295 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,560 Speaker 1: high school, as you. 1296 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:22,519 Speaker 3: That was so scary. 1297 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:27,720 Speaker 1: I was like, what is this code? I'm by Wait, 1298 01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,879 Speaker 1: you think that school shooters are ren fair cause players? 1299 01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 3: I mean, you have to admit if they're shooting at school, 1300 01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 3: there's gonna be some drama. 1301 01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,240 Speaker 1: That's the one thing about school shooters. They are addicted 1302 01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 1: to the drama. Literally. Yeah. 1303 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:43,680 Speaker 4: No. 1304 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:47,400 Speaker 7: My younger brother was like, like goth the emo kid 1305 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 7: when column mine happened, and he's like, I am just 1306 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,959 Speaker 7: being goth and dramatic. I'm not about to kill everyone. 1307 01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,160 Speaker 7: But everyone's like, oh, you draw weird pictures your notebook 1308 01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:58,360 Speaker 7: and he was so devastated. 1309 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 5: God, your your brother literally being like, I'm not dramatic. Yeah, 1310 01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:04,439 Speaker 5: I don't know what everyone's saying. 1311 01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm dramatic. 1312 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:09,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Well that was an incredible performance. I think 1313 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,679 Speaker 5: we read our guest on scale of one twent thousand dollars, 1314 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:12,120 Speaker 5: and I think you. 1315 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,080 Speaker 3: Both hit nine eighty eight. 1316 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,920 Speaker 1: I agree with it. All right, Okay, we have to 1317 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,880 Speaker 1: keep things moving, you guys, because it's literally three am 1318 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,840 Speaker 1: my time. So our final segment is a second we 1319 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,599 Speaker 1: like to do at all our live shows called issue 1320 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 1: there Yet, and I will explain the story behind it 1321 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,160 Speaker 1: and then and then we'll get to it. So our 1322 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 1: dear friend, past guests of the podcast, Celesyim. Many many 1323 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,200 Speaker 1: years ago, many many years ago, they were at the 1324 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,919 Speaker 1: Toronto International Film Festival, tiff if you're in the industry, 1325 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 1: And they were at the premiere of the Grace Jones documentary, 1326 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:47,960 Speaker 1: and then afterwards there was a talk back with a 1327 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 1: director and the director was saying something along the lines of, 1328 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,200 Speaker 1: you know, they don't make icons like Grace Jones anymore. 1329 01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,920 Speaker 1: There's no icons anymore. And someone in the audience said, 1330 01:10:55,960 --> 01:11:01,800 Speaker 1: what about Janelle Manet and the director said, she's not 1331 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:06,439 Speaker 1: there yet. She's not there now. We've never commented on 1332 01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,920 Speaker 1: whether or not we agree on that, and we never would, 1333 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,640 Speaker 1: especially in San Francisco, not to be a bitch, but 1334 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,120 Speaker 1: from that story, the game issue there yet was born. 1335 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,400 Speaker 1: It's quite simple. We're gonna show you a series of people, places, things, 1336 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,839 Speaker 1: and we're gonna basically all have a really open and honest, 1337 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:29,960 Speaker 1: intimacy building conversation and they're gonna be you know, they're 1338 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 1: gonna be barrier themed. I would say, well, of course. 1339 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:39,080 Speaker 1: So first lide San Francisco legend. N Is she there yet? 1340 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:47,080 Speaker 1: She's so close, you guys, she's so close. One wrong step, 1341 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, she just took one out step. What do 1342 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:58,280 Speaker 1: you think. No, I've met her. You've met her? Oh yeah, 1343 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,439 Speaker 1: I sworn to secrecy. 1344 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 4: I never met her, but I met her husband late 1345 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:05,920 Speaker 4: one night at their house. 1346 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:12,599 Speaker 1: Ah, that was me. That was after the intimacy workshop. 1347 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 5: That's all right, You're like, I have all this negativity. 1348 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:16,439 Speaker 5: I need to take it out of someone. 1349 01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,760 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna say. I mean, I hate to say. 1350 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,120 Speaker 1: You know, she looks so happy in that photograph, which 1351 01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 1: was taken many months ago. I am gonna it seems 1352 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,720 Speaker 1: like the consensus is, no, she's not there yet. I 1353 01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 1: got next line, next line. San Francisco legend Gavin seen 1354 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,080 Speaker 1: here on the cover of the knob Hill Gazette. 1355 01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:40,920 Speaker 4: Now he is there. I mean, I can't believe. I 1356 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,559 Speaker 4: cannot get over the fact that he used to date 1357 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:49,439 Speaker 4: Kimberly Gilfoil and that Donald Trump Junior now dates Kimberly 1358 01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:53,559 Speaker 4: Gilfoyle and they look like the same guy. But if 1359 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:58,559 Speaker 4: one of them went to Slytherin. I completely agree with. 1360 01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,320 Speaker 1: You, Mosha. My political views is I think he is. 1361 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:05,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that is the face of someone who is there. Well, 1362 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:06,639 Speaker 1: it's like, I even think. 1363 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,360 Speaker 3: The way that he starts a conversation implies how there 1364 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:11,680 Speaker 3: he is. 1365 01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:15,479 Speaker 4: He's there, and by there we mean in the vagina 1366 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 4: of his best friend's wife, Like that's how there he is. 1367 01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I guess you know, he is there 1368 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,000 Speaker 7: as the avatar of like he's you know, Nancy Pelosi 1369 01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,920 Speaker 7: is over. He is the next generation of democratic failure. 1370 01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,120 Speaker 3: He is if Nancy Pelosi took the substance. 1371 01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 1: He Okay, all right, he's there. 1372 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,600 Speaker 4: He's there as an Adam Michelin star restaurant during a pandemic. 1373 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:52,240 Speaker 1: Alright, is she there yet? So he unveiled this new version. 1374 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 1: It hasn't been beta tested yet. What do we think? 1375 01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,639 Speaker 4: No, no, I pick you guys are misunderstanding the question. 1376 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:09,839 Speaker 1: It's not Are they good? Yeah? No, no, have they arrived? 1377 01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:15,800 Speaker 4: And he's definitely arrived version Absolutely, Darth Zuckerberg is among us. 1378 01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:17,280 Speaker 1: Like he's so. 1379 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,519 Speaker 4: I mean, we should have seen it coming when he 1380 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 4: displaced all people in Maui for his mansion. 1381 01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:23,719 Speaker 1: He's there. 1382 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:27,360 Speaker 7: I'm gonna, you know, respectfully disagree because here's the thing, 1383 01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,800 Speaker 7: Like he's trying to do this whole thing, but like, dude, 1384 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,160 Speaker 7: look at your face, look at your hair. This is 1385 01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:35,920 Speaker 7: not a thing you can become. 1386 01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:40,360 Speaker 1: Right, It's just not possible. I think you're so right. 1387 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,280 Speaker 5: I think there's something so like this is the first 1388 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,640 Speaker 5: day after Christmas break and he's wearing all his new clothes. 1389 01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,720 Speaker 3: And it's like you have to slowly roll these things. 1390 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,759 Speaker 1: Out totally, yeah, altely. 1391 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,120 Speaker 5: And it's like almost implies like in a year he'll 1392 01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,639 Speaker 5: be something completely different, like next year he's going emo, 1393 01:14:58,800 --> 01:14:59,439 Speaker 5: Like we don't know. 1394 01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,160 Speaker 4: He definitely went to like a beta male workshop at 1395 01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,720 Speaker 4: the same place I went with the same harmonium guy. 1396 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,200 Speaker 4: That's like you can be alpha brot. 1397 01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you guys took completely different things out of that. 1398 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,719 Speaker 3: So so sorry, are you guys mad at George? 1399 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 1: Okay? Next line? Micro climate? Is she there yet? 1400 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:31,240 Speaker 7: I mean she has been there in the main area, Yeah, 1401 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:35,599 Speaker 7: but she maybe micro climates this whole time I do, I. 1402 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,559 Speaker 1: Mean micro cli. It's so it's sort of like she's there, 1403 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,760 Speaker 1: she's here, Where is she? It's a little bit like 1404 01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,719 Speaker 1: I think micro climates are like an alt girl. Yeah 1405 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:44,120 Speaker 1: they're Caroline Polochech. 1406 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:49,639 Speaker 3: But even like yeah, maybe, yeah, what do you think 1407 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:50,559 Speaker 3: I do? 1408 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 1: I do not know what a micro climate is. As 1409 01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,679 Speaker 1: a very native to this day, I we didn't talk 1410 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,160 Speaker 1: about things like that back then. Was a gentrifiers term. 1411 01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:05,559 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. 1412 01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,719 Speaker 7: It did suddenly because this is this is where revealed 1413 01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,360 Speaker 7: Mosha is the actual native. I'm the one that only 1414 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 7: moved here in two thousand and nine. Mosha doesn't know 1415 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,120 Speaker 7: what a microclimate is, the same way that fish don't 1416 01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,920 Speaker 7: know what water is. Like, that's just what it is 1417 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:19,400 Speaker 7: out here. 1418 01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, interesting, huh so sort of No, everyone's saying no, 1419 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,200 Speaker 5: I guess what I'm really saying is what is a 1420 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:28,040 Speaker 5: micro climate? 1421 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:31,439 Speaker 3: Do you all want to say it? 1422 01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:32,040 Speaker 1: In Unison? 1423 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,360 Speaker 5: Whenever I come to this damn town, everyone's like, well, 1424 01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:36,400 Speaker 5: it's because of the microclimb. 1425 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,760 Speaker 4: Well, I do actually think it is kind of a 1426 01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:42,479 Speaker 4: gentrifiers term because similarly to what happened to Oakland, where 1427 01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,240 Speaker 4: all of a sudden they were creating out of whole 1428 01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:47,280 Speaker 4: cloth neighborhoods I'd never heard of before, Like this here 1429 01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,560 Speaker 4: is not Billy. Will you not heard of that neighborhood? 1430 01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,800 Speaker 4: This is also phenomenon this maybe this was just rain 1431 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:55,840 Speaker 4: when I was growing. 1432 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,280 Speaker 1: Up totally, And I actually think it goes back to 1433 01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,479 Speaker 1: your point back categorization, like cutting up a city into 1434 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:06,280 Speaker 1: smaller and smaller and smaller pieces is is heteroizing it. 1435 01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,360 Speaker 7: Well, I don't know, I mean, I just like I remember, 1436 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,640 Speaker 7: like having lived out here for a while flying to 1437 01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,840 Speaker 7: New York, staying at a place that was in like 1438 01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 7: Brooklyn or Queens or something, and being like, well, I'm 1439 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,680 Speaker 7: going to Manhattan tomorrow and checking my weather app and 1440 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,560 Speaker 7: being like, no, what's the weather in Manhattan going to 1441 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:25,000 Speaker 7: be like tomorrow? And then realizing, oh, no, this isn't 1442 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,679 Speaker 7: the Bay Area. It's just going to be the same 1443 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:30,680 Speaker 7: weather kind of everywhere all around, whereas here, like you 1444 01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,680 Speaker 7: had to you had to do that. So that's that's microclimates. 1445 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:39,000 Speaker 1: It sounds like it sounds like she's on her way. 1446 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:40,120 Speaker 3: She's still finding her voice. 1447 01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:45,439 Speaker 1: She's finding her voice next time. Micro fucking. I just 1448 01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,960 Speaker 1: want to say I made this. I just thought. I 1449 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,360 Speaker 1: just thought Jared Leto like has the vibe of my 1450 01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:52,800 Speaker 1: I've never read anything about it. 1451 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:58,559 Speaker 4: I thought that was Russell brand Man, and she's there. 1452 01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:06,800 Speaker 4: Russell's there in the arms of Christ. He's doing amazing micro. 1453 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,519 Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, how do you think I did so 1454 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:09,440 Speaker 7: well on Jeopardy? 1455 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:18,800 Speaker 3: Did they drug test you for Jeopardy? No, that's an 1456 01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,120 Speaker 3: amazing detail. Actually, yeah, were you high? 1457 01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:22,519 Speaker 4: For real? 1458 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,280 Speaker 3: Will they take away the money? If you say yes, I. 1459 01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:32,680 Speaker 7: I spent it, So I hope not not. In my 1460 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,120 Speaker 7: original run, but maybe for some of the later tournaments 1461 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:35,840 Speaker 7: maybe a little bit. 1462 01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well now you're a star, there's more pressure. Yeah, 1463 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 1: you're like, you're like, what is anything that's good? Thanks? Okay? 1464 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:55,720 Speaker 1: So yes, so yes, all right. Next there, next line, microaggressions. 1465 01:18:59,000 --> 01:18:59,960 Speaker 4: I think she's gone. 1466 01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,480 Speaker 1: I think she's was there five years. 1467 01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:06,080 Speaker 4: I think we're post to microaggression, microroggressions. 1468 01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,479 Speaker 7: Nobody needs to bother with them anymore. Just aggressions, aggression. 1469 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,000 Speaker 3: Soon to be four white people being like, we're post microaggression. 1470 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:25,000 Speaker 1: Damn, they like don't matter anymore. Man, Yeah, but we 1471 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:25,720 Speaker 1: kind of ate with that. 1472 01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:34,719 Speaker 9: Next live, next line, Okay, Well, Apple watches does bring 1473 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,720 Speaker 9: us back to my hobby of surfing, of. 1474 01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:43,280 Speaker 4: Course, because Tesla finally has integration with surf Line finally, 1475 01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,840 Speaker 4: and and I can and I can open it, and 1476 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,920 Speaker 4: I do drive a Tesla because I support what the 1477 01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:53,439 Speaker 4: CEO does politically needless to say, and so I it's 1478 01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:57,160 Speaker 4: very for me personally in my micro climate. 1479 01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:04,480 Speaker 3: She's the there Wow, any thoughts. 1480 01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:08,160 Speaker 7: I mean to me? No, Like, I mean, that's my 1481 01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,639 Speaker 7: own perspective. Every time I see somebody like do something 1482 01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,400 Speaker 7: with their Apple Watch, I'm always surprised I agree. 1483 01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:15,040 Speaker 1: I agree. 1484 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,080 Speaker 7: Oh whenever, oh, there's still out there's still out there. 1485 01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,439 Speaker 5: Whenever I see an Apple watch, like I get filled 1486 01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,599 Speaker 5: with like a sadness, like I feel like I'm watching 1487 01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:26,799 Speaker 5: like a space shuttle not quite take off, because. 1488 01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,519 Speaker 3: There's something so like, oh, you almost have us. 1489 01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. 1490 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:32,760 Speaker 4: And I don't mean to make this political, but for 1491 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,639 Speaker 4: you to even mention space shuttles not taking off after 1492 01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:40,200 Speaker 4: I mentioned my CEO, I just just that was a 1493 01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:41,520 Speaker 4: bit of a microaggression. 1494 01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,120 Speaker 3: No, thank you for calling me, and I appreciated it. 1495 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,639 Speaker 1: And this is now. Microaggressions are only towards white man. 1496 01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:55,400 Speaker 3: Okay, ox next, liidei pants? 1497 01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:56,880 Speaker 1: Is she there? 1498 01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,400 Speaker 3: You? Who has them? 1499 01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:04,720 Speaker 1: Who has who has? Where is that my sexual guy? 1500 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure all his closed are high tech? 1501 01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,320 Speaker 3: Oh you know they have little events everywhere. 1502 01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,080 Speaker 1: Bisexuals love wearables. 1503 01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:16,920 Speaker 3: Publish that. 1504 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:21,479 Speaker 1: Publish that in the San Francisco Chronicle. What do we think? 1505 01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,719 Speaker 4: I'm sure they're they're sure they're there there. 1506 01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:26,559 Speaker 1: Wow, I guess they're on top of a bike. 1507 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,840 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, oh I think so, they're they're both. 1508 01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,200 Speaker 1: They're they're great. 1509 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,879 Speaker 7: Because it's like it's like a day to night outfit. 1510 01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:38,240 Speaker 7: They're like both pre and post apocalypse. Ready, Oh, I love. 1511 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,080 Speaker 1: That they what I am not pre or post sex 1512 01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,160 Speaker 1: Ready get them. 1513 01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,360 Speaker 4: What I have enjoyed about men's fashion in the last 1514 01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:49,599 Speaker 4: ten years is that it is shifted from structure to comfort. 1515 01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,240 Speaker 4: And I feel like I spent a decade suffering in 1516 01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:55,040 Speaker 4: red wings and structured genes, no offense at all. But 1517 01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,559 Speaker 4: now there are events. Now there are there's wind blowing 1518 01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:00,599 Speaker 4: through it. She is there. 1519 01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:08,080 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, she's there. Next line, hate Ashbury hippies. Are 1520 01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:09,280 Speaker 1: they gonna make a comeback? 1521 01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:23,320 Speaker 7: I mean, hello, hello, Yeah, they are in Oakland. 1522 01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:28,040 Speaker 1: Right, They're They're just not in the hate. Yeah. I saw. 1523 01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:29,960 Speaker 4: I don't know if this answers your question, but I 1524 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,760 Speaker 4: saw one of the craziest street fights I've ever seen 1525 01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:33,840 Speaker 4: in my life on Hate. 1526 01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:34,439 Speaker 9: Uh. 1527 01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,120 Speaker 4: There, it was all the It was the kids that 1528 01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,000 Speaker 4: lived in there used to be a housing project at 1529 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,440 Speaker 4: the bottom of Hate and it was them, those teenagers 1530 01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:49,200 Speaker 4: versus the like like Hemp, homeless, you know, and literally 1531 01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:53,440 Speaker 4: the wizards were throwing staff they were fighting with staffs, 1532 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:57,000 Speaker 4: and they were throwing quarts at the people. They I'm 1533 01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:01,679 Speaker 4: not joking, like there was there was Hemp weponry and honestly, 1534 01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:05,479 Speaker 4: the hippies won that afternoon. I'd never seen anything like 1535 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,160 Speaker 4: it in my life. And it was a bit of 1536 01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:10,960 Speaker 4: a of a microdose where they are and they're. 1537 01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:16,400 Speaker 1: Out for blood all next line public issue there. 1538 01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,240 Speaker 7: If she was I would be nude right now. 1539 01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,639 Speaker 1: That's yeah, what do you think? 1540 01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,120 Speaker 4: I don't mind public nudity. But I did have a 1541 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:31,040 Speaker 4: friend staying with me recently. We went surfing and he 1542 01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,920 Speaker 4: doesn't wear underwear, and we were and we were getting 1543 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:38,400 Speaker 4: changed and he and he changed very boldly with like 1544 01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,040 Speaker 4: children about and I was like, you're allowed to not 1545 01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,080 Speaker 4: wear underwear and be that guy, but not you can't 1546 01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,320 Speaker 4: force everybody to be that guy with you. 1547 01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where it gets really complicated. 1548 01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:51,680 Speaker 4: Huh. 1549 01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,840 Speaker 1: You're sort of one of these like you're like, no, 1550 01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:55,919 Speaker 1: I can't get Pride. 1551 01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,000 Speaker 3: You're like, surfers are grooming our children. 1552 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:01,160 Speaker 1: There children out there. 1553 01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:02,240 Speaker 4: Well, I'm a no king. 1554 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,360 Speaker 1: Christian might be okay with me watching gate board, but 1555 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,880 Speaker 1: he's not okay with someone whipping their cock out on 1556 01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:08,280 Speaker 1: the beach. 1557 01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,559 Speaker 4: I'm a no kink at Pride because I work for 1558 01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,160 Speaker 4: Pepsi and we're sponsoring. 1559 01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:19,160 Speaker 1: Wow, and that, you know, brings us to our final segment, thank. 1560 01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:24,599 Speaker 5: You Pepsi, Yeah, where everyone actually says thank you Pepsi one, 1561 01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,799 Speaker 5: two three, thank you, You're welcome. 1562 01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,400 Speaker 1: Do you have any final thoughts about public nudy? 1563 01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:35,160 Speaker 5: Well, I I guess I just wanted to say. Sometimes 1564 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,799 Speaker 5: I think I'm so chill when it comes to public nudity, 1565 01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:41,160 Speaker 5: and then i see like a like a nude family 1566 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:45,280 Speaker 5: and I'm like stop it. 1567 01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,000 Speaker 3: Like when I met I was okay with public nudity. 1568 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:47,759 Speaker 3: I met gay guys. 1569 01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and in my apartment yeah, like not like dad 1570 01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:59,120 Speaker 1: and son like stop. Yeah. All right, I think next 1571 01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,439 Speaker 1: lade as the last. All right, Wow, wow that was 1572 01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:04,760 Speaker 1: our show. You guys, thank you so much. 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