WEBVTT - Buckle Up Cowboy 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:05.280 Boom bo. If you thought four hours a day, minutes 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:08.480 a week was enough, I think again. He's the last 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:12.160 remnants of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:15.320 He treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:19.360 the rich pill poppers in the penthouse the clearing House 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:23.120 of Hot Takes break free for something special. The Fifth 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:27.880 Hour with Ben Maller starts right now. That it does 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:34.120 is we are in the air everywhere the vast power 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:37.720 of podcasting. That's right, podcasting. We just blow viate here 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:41.519 for like an hour round an hour and it's very simple, 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:44.080 very simple to do. Uh. And then either like it 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:45.800 or you don't like it or whatever. But that's how 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.360 it works. And yet again, as we do this eight 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:54.080 days a week, NonStop, never ending Friday, this are Saturday show, 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.440 and then we have Sunday as well. Right over there, 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:03.160 the biggest narcissist I know west of the four oh 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:06.600 five is in his d n A not a man 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:19.039 of the people, David Gesco. Right. Uh. I like the introduction, 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.080 and I got some great news for you, Ben, and 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.840 also for our listeners out there. Oh really, Well, I'll 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:26.840 be the judge of whether it's great news or not, 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.880 you drama queens. All right, Well, if anyone's listening to 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.119 this podcast today, which is on a Saturday and when 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:35.120 we launch it, uh, that means that we're making our 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:37.959 way towards a new week. And that also means that 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:42.119 the Mayan calendar is also wrong. Uh their reports last 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:45.959 week that the Mayan calendar was off track a little 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.000 bit by eight years, and in fact they had predicted 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:52.720 now that this week the world would end. So if 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.080 we're making our way towards a new week now, we're 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:59.520 fishy beyond the Mayan calendar curse if you will, about 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.919 the world coming to an end, even though it feels 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:05.040 like at certain times of the day, especially out here, 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:09.280 it is it is conceivable that we are doing this 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:11.800 podcast and the entire world has come to an end. 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.560 So why are we fucking doing this if the world's 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.000 over now? Because I feel like we're wasting our time 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.200 because no one will hear this. Everyone's dead, So what's 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.320 the point of doing a podcast if no one's alive 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.720 to hear well? Because ultimately, it's like it's like when 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.480 you erase an email or your race a sex message, 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.280 you know, for sex and the wife or whatever and 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.600 whether you're deleted or not, it's out there in the universe. 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.240 So we are leaving our spirit from beyond the grave. 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.720 We're leaving our voices out there for anybody that might 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.560 not be here but on another planet listened to us. 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:49.240 So um our message can still be heard somehow somewhere, like, 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.359 we're not alone. You've said this thousands of time. I 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.959 don't believe we're alone. I think it would be ridiculous 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:57.400 to think that we're alone. And who knows what's I 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.959 don't know whether they other creatures can hear. I don't 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.080 if they have, they're just like us. I guess, although 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:07.960 I do the parallel parallel universe, not to wrap our 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.280 head around that and go down that rabbit hole. But 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.519 I dude, put some style like if the universe goes 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.400 on forever and there's no end to it, because how 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.120 could there be an end to it? Right, just you 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.320 wrap your head around it. So if it goes along 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.320 far enough and there's all these different galaxies to infinity 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.840 and beyond, then it would make sense that there's probably 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:32.440 multiple planets just like Earth with human like creatures on 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.240 them out there that will never get in contact with 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:41.040 will never know and I think that's that seems it 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.680 doesn't seem like I'm I'm smoking bass salts when I 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:48.280 say that. Yeah. Well, anyway, so if if we're still here, 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.000 if you're hearing this, you've survived the end of the world. 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.640 That doesn't guarantee we have, but maybe they have not 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:58.400 fallen yet exactly all right, So coming up on today's podcast, 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:02.400 got a little Florida Man may Florida Maya and Florida My. 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.360 We have that. We also have study and survey, this 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:10.120 tribute to Penn and Teller, homage, the Penn and Teller reeler, bullshit, 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.640 and a lot of pop quiz. My favorite part of 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.240 the show is the pop quiz. Before you give us 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.880 our our meals for the day, Ben Um, we go 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:22.479 with the appetizers. Social media accounts. Oh that's right, yes, 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.200 follow us on social media. We already promoted Cameo because 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.159 we're now both Cameo Horse. Cameo Horse that was on 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:29.880 the previous edition was out the bravest. I don't know, 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:31.440 it's all the same to me. I have no idea, 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.840 but I I am on Cameo at Ben Mallory. It's 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:38.320 a Father's Day weekend and I will try to expedite 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.599 if you need that quickly a special cameo message. I 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.719 got some engagements I've got to take care of, but 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.760 I will do assuming why I don't get flooded, which 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.000 I never do. I never do, but I will send 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.840 a message if you want cameo dot Com slash Ben 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:56.680 Mallard on there. Also on Twitter at Ben Mallard. Follow 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:58.400 me on there. I need your help on that. Follow 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.880 me on Instagram. I really need your help on Instagram 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:02.880 because man, old man, I got late to the game. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.320 I'm not a booty model. I can't shake my money 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.080 money maker and get people to follow me on there. 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.359 So Ben Maller on Fox, on Instagram, on the Facebook 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:17.279 page Ben Mallard Show. It's Ben Mallard Show. And it's 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.840 been very eye opening here Gascon recent. I know we'll 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.280 get into it a a little bit before we get into 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.920 the meat and potatoes of the podcast. The the eye 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.800 opening experience of the last couple of weeks doing radio, 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.200 which is really coming into political radio and learning certain 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:33.920 percentages of the audience get triggered by every fucking thing 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.120 you say. It's just an eye opening experience, But how 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:38.760 can people reach you? Guests um, that makes me think 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.880 of press your luck that that game back in the day. 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:45.160 No wammy, no wammy stop um Twitter at David Jay Gascon, 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:49.800 Instagram at Dave Gascon and then cameo as well. I 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.680 am at David Jay Gascon. I I do have a 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.400 question since you brought that up, and it's it's nice 0:05:56.480 --> 0:06:00.520 that that you've seen incoming bogies while you been hosting 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:05.080 Money through Friday. Do you think the audience would be 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:10.440 interested and us going from just strictly podcast audio version 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:15.800 to to a YouTube channel. That's a good question. I'm 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:20.400 I'm not sure it would be an interesting interesting question. 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.320 My my horse sense tells me they would because it's 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.800 that doesn't cost them anything and they can then some 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.680 people like to stare at the at the animal in 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:34.760 the cave, so which I'm always surprised by. But yeah, 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:36.719 I mean, if you wanna, and we can certainly set 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.960 that up. I as you know Gascon, because the company mandated. 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:44.000 Did I have a studio here that has lighting and 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:48.000 I have the all the camera equipment and all that 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.720 stuff that you would need to do that. Although there 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:55.720 is one technical thing my microphone is not hooked up 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.080 to the camera that I use it's I might have 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.440 to work out logistically that, but we could really work 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:04.520 that stuff out YouTube. It would be good to get 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.840 a YouTube channel because I think you can actually make 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:08.720 money at that, right, there's actually something you can make 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:12.080 some cash at. Yeah. The other thing too, is that 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:15.600 we'll be able to track what people like, love or 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:19.240 hate when they listen to our topics. I mean, obviously, 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.480 when we have this kind of a platform the podcasting world, 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:25.400 we're running anywhere from forty to sixty five seventy minutes. 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:27.800 But you know, sometimes we're flying blind with the way 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:31.640 that people receive our information. That you could download the 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.280 podcast and it's good for sixty seconds, we get credit 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.280 for that, but we don't know how long people are 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.840 actually listening to it. It's it's like your show, right, 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:40.920 you have four hours a day, but you don't know 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:42.920 how long people are listening to you to your show. 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.080 So youtubeoud give us a better idea of what people 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.880 like to listen to, what they enjoy, and then on 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.280 top of that, they can actually comment in real time 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:55.440 with the topics of the day. So so that would 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.680 mean I'd have to put clothes on. I can't. You 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:59.280 can just go to the top only, or you could 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.200 go from top. You can go robe. You can go bathrobe. 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.680 And yeah you can go like Rick Rude style, you know, 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.680 ravishing Rick Rude. You just wear like a pinker or 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.960 white robe with a couple of sandals on. You'd be 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:12.520 you'd be good. Maybe a cigar, you can be like 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.240 the Bruce Arians. You got like a cigar and your 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:19.040 hat too. Yeah, yeah, well I'm sure why not people 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.120 want that? Reach out to us, let us know whether 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.720 you want that or not. And I why you would 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:25.280 not like? Why you? So? I know I don't want 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.800 the video, and I don't like anyone's gonna say that. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.480 So I don't think that's a I realized. I just 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.280 wanted to mention though. The last couple of weeks have 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:36.520 been eye opening, and uh, you know, the most benign comments, 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.480 the most benign comments, and people just go crazy, They 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.600 just go nuts. Like for example, I did a monologue 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.000 the other night about I was actually celebrating the fact 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.800 that Dan Snyder, the Redskins owner, who's not a very 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:52.640 good owner. His team sucks every year. But the the 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:57.320 one person that has not bowed down and submitted to 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.600 the cancel culture is Dan Snyder. People have been trying 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.559 to cancel the Redskins name for years, and he just 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:06.560 tells him to go pound Sam with the rubber mount 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.760 is what he tells him. And there's something refreshing about 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.920 that that that's that's as close to an alpha male 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.160 as we have these days where everyone else is just 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:19.200 bowing down on issuing multiple apologies and it's just pathetic. 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.520 So I did a monologue about Dan Snyder and I 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.200 mentioned one other I think was one other person that 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:29.040 also has survived cancel culture that I that recently took place. 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:34.600 That was Tucker Carlson of Fox News. They tried to 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:38.040 cancel him, uh and he had the highest rated show 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:41.200 on cable television uh and it was like the number 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.240 one show. So I mentioned this just as an example 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.880 of well, there's other people too, not many, but here's 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.080 Tucker Carlson. They tried to get rid of him and 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.760 he had the number one show. And the backlash from 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:55.840 some members of the listening audiences like, oh, they're sending 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.520 me all these stories about how Fox News lost all 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:02.199 their you know, are advertisers for Tucker Carlson. So then 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:05.720 I then responded because I thought, well, that's that's actually incorrect. 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:07.640 I know a lot of the liberal media is running 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:10.720 with that, but uh, Fox News pointed out that all 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:14.480 those national ads and the revenue from Tucker Carlson show, 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:18.080 we're moved to other shows. So the net is no 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:22.199 net loss and they haven't lost any revenue, which is 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.360 really what matters. Right, do you lose revenue? Do you 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:26.439 not lose revenue? And again, and we talked about with 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:29.480 Mike North yesterday, say what you want about Fox News 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.319 and you don't like it, and you think it's horrible whatever, 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.240 because it doesn't meet your agenda, your political agenda, and 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.360 you think since they don't line up with you, they 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:40.280 should be banned. Right, at least they got balls over there. 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:42.600 At least the people that run Fox News have balls 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.720 and defend their employees and have some backbone and say, well, no, 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:50.679 we're not gonna get rid of this guy Carlson because 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.800 the two percent on Twitter one, I'm gone, We're not 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:57.200 gonna do that. Just something refreshing about, But I got 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.240 I got a bunch of shipped for it. Guess we're 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:02.760 very upset. It's it's beautiful. Right. We have freedom of speech, 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:06.760 but not freedom of thought, like God forbid you have 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:10.320 any kind of sent in the public opinion, or at 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.800 least the loudest opinion. It's not the public opinion, but 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:18.679 it's the loudest opinion, because I'll be very curious as 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.000 see how things turn out when we get to November, 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:24.160 not just for the uh, not just for the White 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.040 House and the presidency, but how things will be trickling 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:31.400 on down with with the local voting too, because you know, 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.480 it doesn't matter which way your your sway to the right, 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.240 to the left, right down the middle, but there's things 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:41.199 that people need to address and that just that doesn't 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.199 go just for what's going on with law enforcement, but 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:48.040 we're talking about the way that cities are structured, how 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:53.680 they're budgeted, how they're allocating funds. And it's a cumbent 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:57.080 upon us as individuals and as voters to actually use 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:01.520 our voice, use our power, and to make sound decisions 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:05.719 without using just the emotion behind what's in front of 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.240 us because of social media or because of the news 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:12.320 that sensationalizes certain things, but actually doing a hardcore research. 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.520 You can attest to this because on shows as a 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:19.800 sportscaster or even as a as a commentator, we're often 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:24.720 required to look at information from players from games from 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.480 history to tell the story about what's going on right now, 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:32.280 and that same thing as applicable to what's going on 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:36.199 with our politicians. And if people want to hold people accountable, 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.920 what better way than to research for yourself, as opposed 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.720 to letting an athlete or a fucking celebrity or some 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.920 shock shock tell you exactly what you should think. Be 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.480 sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meller Show 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.800 weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m. Pacific on 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.440 Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Yeah, 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.240 you know that's something that I'm very happy. In my 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.520 younger days, I certainly was swayed by celebrity, you know, 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:05.560 and the big big names and all that. I was 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.439 no different. But at some point I had an epiphany. 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.679 I said, who the funk are these people? I mean, 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:11.920 I don't need to listen to because somebody's good at 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:15.000 singing a song or throwing a little ball around that 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.920 their opinion matter. I mean, it's so it's so backwards. 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:22.880 But but yet the studies indicate that many people are 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:28.000 just rubes and they just blindly follow because someone's good 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.160 at throwing a football. I need to know what he 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:33.240 thinks about politics, and they go down that. But I've 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.000 I've always been and you you can tell someone who 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.559 is afraid of the other side when you say, all right, 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.400 I believe the free market. And this is always how 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.239 I felt. The free market should decide what is acceptable 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:50.640 and what's not acceptable. And people are like, no, some 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:54.079 people know. And I always say, the consumers should decide 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:58.400 by their wallet and their spending habits, what is a 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.959 good business and it isn't a good business. And while 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.760 many people push back on that, that still is the 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:09.480 way of the world. For example, Colin Kaepernick did his kneeling. 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.200 We talked about that with Mike North quite a bit 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:16.000 yesterday on the podcast, and and it turned out the 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.680 free market determined they didn't like that. The ratings went down. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.720 There were there was vitriol and the stadiums with people 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:27.880 throwing raspberries at Kaepernick and getting upset with the players 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.720 that were protesting during work. I got very upset, got 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.600 very upset. Uh, And so that affected the bottom line 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:39.200 that the people spoke, the customers spoke, and that's what 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.680 should happen. And I tend to think the same thing 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.880 is gonna happen later this season when everyone's taken and 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.920 it's gonna even more ridiculous when everyone's doing it. Uh, 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.080 and and you're gonna get similar reactions some people that 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.040 and then you're gonna see it's up to the NFL 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:57.080 whether they want to risk the holy grail of television 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.400 ratings and lose that and and have that in Ironman 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.640 at NFL stadiums, which doesn't have to be that way, 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.760 where you know, most people go to a game just 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.640 to get out of the racket for a couple of 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.440 hours and they don't need to be preached to and 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.200 given a sermon on what they're supposed to believe and 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.040 and all that. So, uh, that's that's gonna be very 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.480 interesting to see. But I'm I'm a free market person. 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:20.720 I think if you're afraid of the free market, it's 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:22.960 because you know you're on the wrong side. You're afraid. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.880 You don't want people to be adults and judge for themselves. Yeah, 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.680 I kinda. I kind of go with the Vegas model. 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:34.640 Vegas model of thinking that if everybody's going one way, 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.360 it's just like Vegas, you gotta go the other way, 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:41.040 you know. Benny versus the perfect example, right with the public. Yeah, 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.600 you always want to bet whatever the public mindset is. 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:45.480 You never want to bet on the public. You want 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.360 to bet on the wise guys. You don't want to 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.200 bet on the majority in that absolutely. Yeah. Now I 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:52.920 know earlier this week you had opened up a show 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:56.160 on a monologue with Chubba Hubbard of the Oklahoma state 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.320 tailback Ubba, that's right, cancel culture, the king of the 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.800 Cancel culture are there in Stillwater, Oklahoma. He got his 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.080 coach to bow down and kiss his boat. Yeah. No, 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.760 I didn't agree with with the way that he attacked 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:10.480 Mike Gundy, but I will say in in his defense 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:14.480 or even as a college athlete goes, especially with football 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:18.840 and some basketball and baseball players. As I think, and 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.680 this is just my opinion, but I think that athletes 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:25.080 like him. I mean, he is a Heisman Trophy candidate 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.440 coming up this season. He's gonna be a great professional 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.040 player too. He's a great running back. But I think 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.600 these guys should take a stand, and I think it'd 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:37.640 be It would It would do so much for college athletics. 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.000 It would just imagine, Ben, take me through this, but 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.200 imagine one day if you had USC and Notre Dame 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.200 whether it was in South Benner at the Colisseum on 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.800 primetime television, or you had Ohio State in Michigan playing 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:52.040 in the Big House primetime television. They got to the 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.120 fifty yard line for the coin toss. After all these 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.040 warm ups are done, the bands on the field, they 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.080 come off, and then all of a sudden, they all 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:03.160 walk off. Players don't play, players don't play at all, 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.280 and they finally take a stand against the n C 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:08.760 Double A and they say, pay us what we fucking 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:13.320 bring you guys as administrators, as in a university, because 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:17.480 you guys are taking our likeness, selling it and becoming 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.719 fat cats off of it, and we're getting nothing like 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:24.439 one percent of one percent of the population becomes a 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.600 professional athlete. And these guys that doesn't matter if you're 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:29.919 a wide receiver, a quarterback, and offensive line and a 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:34.320 defensive tackle. They may or may not experience that. They 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.280 may or may not get drafted. And some of them 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:40.200 are undrafted free agents that never see a cent because 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:41.960 of what they did in the college game. Now I 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.600 know that they get free education. I completely understand that, 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:52.240 but you have administrators, athletic directors, boosters, some of these 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:56.920 people that don't put in the work physically, and they 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:00.360 don't put in the weight training as well, and they 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.399 get to reap a lot of the rewards of these 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:06.920 athletes who are, like you've said, indentured servants. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.760 I know it is. I've always thought it was ridiculous 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:11.919 when I've been to big sporting events and I was 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.760 around USC in the heyday with Pete Carroll when they 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:16.800 were the greatest team in college football for several the 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.000 most exciting team in college football with Reggie Push, and 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:20.840 it was I'm going on, I'm like this, I've been 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.240 to NFL games that didn't have as much juice. I've 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.600 been to NFL games I didn't have the buzz and 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.240 the excitement and the crowd was into it, and I'm like, 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.560 I'm looking around, like what the hell are we doing here? 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.000 And same thing with big college basketball games. You're You're 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:38.119 like Duke in North Carolina and these big powerhouse teams, 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:41.560 You're like, what the hell is going on? But I 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:46.000 like that you are recommending now the full Mayhem chaos 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.680 and anarchy plan. Well, I don't you want the full 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:52.720 collapse of these are? Are? Are you? Just? Is your point? 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.080 Maybe your point is that these guys are willing to 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.880 get upset over a T shirt. But what they could 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:01.480 really change that really wouldn't matter. Cares what fucking cable 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:05.040 channel Mike Dundee watches a big fucking deal. Uh, But 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:10.160 the real anarchy would be the uprising would be if 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:15.080 the big stars before like a Saturday night Alabama game 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.560 against l s U, said fuck you were not playing. 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:19.760 That would that would actually get You're right, it would 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:24.120 absolutely that kind of descent from the orthodoxy of college 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:28.760 sports would completely be chaotic and wild and uh yeah, 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:32.879 And it's not because I'm I'm believing and straight anarchy. 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.240 But you think about this is that you get so 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.880 much the top tier talent across the country, and they 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:43.159 come from broken families, they come from inner cities, and 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:46.640 they don't have a lot of support that other people might. 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:49.480 And so if you get these guys, not only that 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.400 would they be able to try to take care of themselves, 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:53.240 but they'd be able to take care of the same 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:55.720 guys that were in their shoes or would be in 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.800 their shoes ten fifteen years down the road. Because you 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:00.960 think about kids in the l entry school level of 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.080 the high school level, they're just waiting for a break, 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:06.480 or they need a break to get out of their 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:10.440 economic status, and they use their athletics skills, their god 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.280 given talent to get to the higher level and sometimes 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:17.679 potentially become professional athletes. But I think you're you're. The 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:22.040 one flaw in your argument is the fact that human 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:27.159 nature is this I want mine. Sure, that's just basically 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.359 so that's the same problem the the NFL. You can 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:32.800 make the same argument the NFL players if they took 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.760 a stand and not take a knee, but took a 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:39.080 stand against the NFL, the league itself, there would be 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:43.080 major change, and they would they would improve, But they don't. 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.240 They no one's looking out for No one cares about 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:49.040 what happened before them, right the old guard, and nobody 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:51.480 cares about what's coming up after them. They want their 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:54.159 share of the pie. Right. But as I get, I 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:58.199 understand human nature and and and I don't disagree with that. 0:20:58.240 --> 0:20:59.879 You you've got to get what you can get. But 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:02.359 it would be in a perfect world you'd be like, okay, 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:04.640 let's take a stay and then every the greater, good 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:07.040 for everyone. But I think, but see, here's the thing though, 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:08.520 and this is why I'll push back on. That is 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:13.080 because when you're an university, you have the educational foundation 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:15.320 at least support to guide you where you want to 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:18.119 be as an adult. When you're a pop singer or 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:22.800 a gymnast or someone that's playing like the sports, you're 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:25.960 getting all this money at sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years of age. 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:27.439 You don't know how the fund to spend it. You 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:29.199 know how to allocate it, you know how to save it, 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:31.800 you don't know how to build on it. But if 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.639