WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 2/9: Seven-Round Mock Draft and Senior Bowl Standouts

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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<v Speaker 1>Lazar and Alex Barr Lazar, Well, everybody nailed it, joined

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<v Speaker 1>us always buy ours, Bar David match. Here is Evan

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<v Speaker 1>Lazar and Alex Barks. All right, I know you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do this, but I'm gonna bring it up.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of those concepts you're talking about. We're geared

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<v Speaker 1>around the running back like Jamir Gibbs led the team

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<v Speaker 1>and catch us. He led the team and carries. Why

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<v Speaker 1>are we doing this? Why every draft ever? You know

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<v Speaker 1>why your microphone? You know why every draft season you

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<v Speaker 1>have to come at me with the running back, the

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<v Speaker 1>the punter, the the guard and do they not usually

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<v Speaker 1>end up making those moves? Yeah, but we're not here

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't. It doesn't mean that we should delight or

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<v Speaker 1>we should applaud it. I'm not Robinson in the first round. Great, awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>but here's what you mistake. I am not applauding it.

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<v Speaker 1>But nobody cares what we would do because we're not

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<v Speaker 1>the ones making the decisions. They want us to tell

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<v Speaker 1>them what we think, in our expert opinion, the team

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<v Speaker 1>is going to do. It would be malpractice not to

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<v Speaker 1>address it whether the move is right or wrong. Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Barth back in studio, back from Vegas. We're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into too many wild Vegas stories, but a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of little tidbits about the lux Or, which was

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful you love the Luxor elevators that go at

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine degree angles. That almost made me throw up

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<v Speaker 1>multiple times because I was drunk, just because the elevator

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<v Speaker 1>is Evan just can't handle an elevator. Not that elevator.

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<v Speaker 1>That was kind of cool. Diabo Cantina, fantastic Mexican. I

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<v Speaker 1>usually don't love Mexican food. That was really good, the

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<v Speaker 1>great Mexican restaurant inside the lovely lux Or. But I've

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<v Speaker 1>had some some moments where I've woken up since we've

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<v Speaker 1>been back. I told you this that I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>was still in the Luxe store, and then i wake

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<v Speaker 1>up and I'm like, oh good, I'm home. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not in this hotel in Vegas anymore. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that was your first time in Vegas. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed yourself. But now that I've been to Vegas three

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<v Speaker 1>times in like a seven month span, I am so

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas out. I have no need for Vegas anymore. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been there, I've done it. It smells it's hot, or

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<v Speaker 1>this time it was it was not hot, this time

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<v Speaker 1>it was cold. This time it was cold when it's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be hot. Like, I'm just out on Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>and I love Vegas, but I'm out back, like that

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<v Speaker 1>sign says when you're leaving, come back soon. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>worst part. I think that's the worst part is that

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that the Raiders are once again on the road

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<v Speaker 1>team schedule for next year, so no matter what I do,

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<v Speaker 1>I will be back in Vegas next fall. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>This sounds like a first world problem. It tour Evan.

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<v Speaker 1>It totally more. Evan has to go to Las Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>and watch football. Oh no, it's how It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those places that you go with your buddies. You go,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and have a good time for two or

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<v Speaker 1>three days, but when you have to go over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again and for a week at a time, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not even just like that. We're popping in and leaving, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've been there for five six days straight. There.

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<v Speaker 1>There's definitely a such thing as too much Vegas, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've hit the Vegas quota and then some So

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<v Speaker 1>that's our Vegas minute. We want to start the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I published my first mock draft today, as I know

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<v Speaker 1>you have one coming shortly on the Sports Up, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go through some of the picks that

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<v Speaker 1>I made in the mock draft and explain some of

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<v Speaker 1>my methodology here of why I got to some of

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<v Speaker 1>these things. Then we're gonna do some Senior Bowl stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that will segue us into some Senior Bowl stuff because

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't been on the air since the Senior Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll get an opportunity to talk about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the standouts and we'll see take some calls and see

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<v Speaker 1>where that takes us. Eight five five patch five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>is the phone number you can email at web radio

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<v Speaker 1>at Patriots dot com as well. Let's get into the

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<v Speaker 1>mock draft, though, I think the biggest thing that when

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<v Speaker 1>I went into this mock draft, so the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to do was get through the top receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>the top corners, and the top tackles in the draft

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<v Speaker 1>to have a really good feel of the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>realistically the Patriots might target in the first round this year.

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<v Speaker 1>In the draft, I think we can all agree that

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<v Speaker 1>those three positions back to the rand at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the show, they're not I pray that they're not

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<v Speaker 1>taking another guard. I pray that they're not taking Bijean

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<v Speaker 1>Robinson or your boy Gibbs from Alabama in the first

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<v Speaker 1>round of running back, is my point. We pray that

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<v Speaker 1>that's not going to be I pray. I can't speak

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Can I give you one more position that

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<v Speaker 1>I could not be less interested in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>And some people actually like the positions you named. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think anybody's really talking about that. The tight end

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round thing, Yeah, that too when you

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<v Speaker 1>stop because especially like Mayor in particular, I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a bad player. I actually think he's

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<v Speaker 1>a very good player. But a big issue for the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots offense really going back to Cam Newton year, has

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<v Speaker 1>been they're not horizontal enough, right, Like, if you stack

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<v Speaker 1>the box against the Patriots, you're pretty much gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>away everything. I think Michael Mayer is a really good player,

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<v Speaker 1>but he barely lines up in the slot. Forget out

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<v Speaker 1>Why I mean you're lining him up in line? Everything

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<v Speaker 1>is being played in a phone booth, right You're you're

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<v Speaker 1>no more. You don't prevent teams from stacking the box.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't prevent teams from you know, taking players outside

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers, right, So I just if you're gonna use

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<v Speaker 1>that hive and investment on a pass catcher, either trade

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<v Speaker 1>it for a guy like Tee Higgins right or at

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<v Speaker 1>least draft And what's weird is the top receivers in

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<v Speaker 1>this draft or all slot receivers. So they don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>fix that problem either, at least not to the extent.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just I see all these people who are

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<v Speaker 1>all excited about Michael Mayer, you know as the US

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<v Speaker 1>but may or like a big guy, where's eighty seven? Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it just it doesn't make sense. I'm not saying tight

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<v Speaker 1>end in the draft doesn't make sense. We'll get to that,

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<v Speaker 1>but if we're listening, the positions we're out on in

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<v Speaker 1>the first round unless they do something spectacular in free agency,

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<v Speaker 1>it with trades and whatever. For now, I am out

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<v Speaker 1>on sight end in the first round. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest issue that I had is that every single

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<v Speaker 1>time I came up with a reason to take a

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<v Speaker 1>position other than the guy at the position I took,

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<v Speaker 1>I still came back to this still feels like such

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<v Speaker 1>a glaring hole that they absolutely need to address. And

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<v Speaker 1>over the last couple of years, the Patriots have targeted

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<v Speaker 1>major holes on their roster with their top picks in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft. Coles Strange needed guards, They draft a guard,

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<v Speaker 1>need a quarterback. They draft Mac Jones. Patrick Chung is

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<v Speaker 1>about to retire, They draft Kyle Dugger. Right, they have

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<v Speaker 1>gone need based a little bit here. Well, so my

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<v Speaker 1>and you've heard me do this rump before drafting for

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<v Speaker 1>need versus drafting the best player available. And everybody always says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't draft for need, You never draft for need.

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<v Speaker 1>Just take the best player on the board, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you do. Okay, Well, what does that mean? What

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<v Speaker 1>does the best player on the board mean? Are we

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<v Speaker 1>talking about like overall talent level? Because if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>there should be kickers and punters going in the first round,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, we're gonna get twenty twenty five picks

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<v Speaker 1>into this thing. And if we're just going back, like Pier,

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<v Speaker 1>throwout positional value, just who is the best at their

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<v Speaker 1>position relative to everybody else at their position. Jake Moody's

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<v Speaker 1>a top thirty player in this draft. Would you agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that in that context? I understand. And then but

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. Then people come back and say always

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<v Speaker 1>got to come up. But then, but then people are

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<v Speaker 1>A running back Jimir Gibbs is a top thirty talented

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<v Speaker 1>player in this draft, just just to John Robinson, I

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<v Speaker 1>think is a top twenty guy. Okay, so, but so

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<v Speaker 1>they're the best player available. So if you're gonna come

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<v Speaker 1>at me and say, well, no, it's not what it means, well,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well now you're not taking the best player.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're putting qualifiers on it, right. I also think

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<v Speaker 1>that their approach has been pretty consistently the best player

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<v Speaker 1>available at the biggest areas. They're trying to get those

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<v Speaker 1>two things. And what does Bill Belichick always say? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do what's best for the team. So if

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<v Speaker 1>the best player available is the best player for the team,

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<v Speaker 1>you are factoring need in. So best player available doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually mean anything because you can make an argument that

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<v Speaker 1>a kicker or running back. How about all those years

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<v Speaker 1>with Brady when they were passing on quarterbacks who were

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<v Speaker 1>better players than the guys they were drafting in the

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<v Speaker 1>first round, right, Well, that one you know later in

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<v Speaker 1>his career, maybe you could argue taking a quarterback, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking earlier on right, Aaron Rodgers falls all the

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<v Speaker 1>way to twenty. Whatever I believe they picked before the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers that year, I'm gonna guess he's a better player

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<v Speaker 1>and whoever they took, but that one helps them. So

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<v Speaker 1>best player available as a fallacy, best player available doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually mean what you think it means. When you say

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<v Speaker 1>best player available, the full sentence should be best player

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<v Speaker 1>available for the football team. So don't come at me with, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're too focused on drafting for need That's not what

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<v Speaker 1>teams do. That's what every team does. It just sounds

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<v Speaker 1>sexier to say taking the best player avail. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that we can agree that corner, tackle, wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>are the three biggest spots where a significant upgrade on

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<v Speaker 1>the roster would really move the needle. And we're taking

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback out of it. I know some people would would

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<v Speaker 1>say quarterback, but we're taking quarterback out of it because

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're taking quarterback out of it right at

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<v Speaker 1>least for this year and at that high in the draft. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So my other the way that I always go about

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<v Speaker 1>this is that I try to eliminate guys before I

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<v Speaker 1>pick a guy, right like, I try to eliminate options

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<v Speaker 1>where I don't love this, I don't like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I end up with the last man standing right

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<v Speaker 1>at corner. I got admit, I've watched all of these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Gonzalez, Joey Porter Junior, Cam Smith, Ringo from Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>and who's the other, A Witherspoon from Illinois. I think

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<v Speaker 1>all of them have first round caliber traits, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think any of them are really the entire package.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I don't think you're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>Sauce Gardener right like, You're not gonna have somebody go

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<v Speaker 1>in the top five at that position this year. Because

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<v Speaker 1>of that. I think that a guy that could be

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<v Speaker 1>available there that I would at that position is Joey

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<v Speaker 1>Porter Junior. But then you have some political things with

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<v Speaker 1>his father and the Patriots that I think you have

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<v Speaker 1>to bring up in this conversation when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>draft and fit. But based off the things that Joey

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<v Speaker 1>Porter Senior has said about New England in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can just go look him up on your

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<v Speaker 1>own time, I'm not necessarily sure that Bill's gonna draft

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<v Speaker 1>his son. I just and even on top of that,

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<v Speaker 1>there's the Penn State thing he never takes. And I

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<v Speaker 1>would also mention that as good as I think Joey

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<v Speaker 1>Porter Junior could probably be in the protect in a

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<v Speaker 1>proper role, in the proper scheme, he is a higher,

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<v Speaker 1>higher legged, or tighter hipped corner. He's somebody that when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at him play, if he's not getting redirects

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<v Speaker 1>or jams instantly early on in the route and guys

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<v Speaker 1>are able to get up to top speed on him,

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<v Speaker 1>he has a difficult time I think on film flipping

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<v Speaker 1>his hips and then mirroring guys down the field right,

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<v Speaker 1>being able to turn and run with guys even out

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<v Speaker 1>of press coverage. I think out an off coverage, smaller,

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<v Speaker 1>shiftier guys are going to be able to break down

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<v Speaker 1>on him, and they're gonna be able to change directions

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<v Speaker 1>on him. So I'm not in love with any of

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<v Speaker 1>the corners. We've talked a ton about wide receiver and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel the same. And I would also mention that

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<v Speaker 1>with both these groups, I think it's a really deep

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<v Speaker 1>draft at both of these positions. So is there really

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<v Speaker 1>all three that the Patriots need. I know you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>a tackle, but if there is there a huge drop

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<v Speaker 1>off from Christian Gonzales to some of the corners that

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<v Speaker 1>you might be able to get. I think this corner

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<v Speaker 1>has the narrowest drop off I think in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of years. And we're going to talk about this, I oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's the first round picked. This guy's second round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very important to remember that's all relative. Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>are guys in last year's like they're guys in this

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<v Speaker 1>year's class who aren't going to go in the first round,

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<v Speaker 1>who would have been first round picks last year, like

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<v Speaker 1>easy locked first round picks that this year might go

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<v Speaker 1>in the second round. Might they might even go in

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<v Speaker 1>the third. So it's all relative when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>it like that. And yeah, this is a year where

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<v Speaker 1>I think at cornerback, you can there's gonna be one

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<v Speaker 1>or two guys that go outside of the top sixty

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<v Speaker 1>at corner that in an average year might be first

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<v Speaker 1>round picks. Yeah. So the other position was wide receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love wide receivers. I love breaking them down,

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<v Speaker 1>I love talking about them. It's the sexy position for

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<v Speaker 1>them to draft. It's the most fun position. For them

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<v Speaker 1>to take is to take a weapon. One punters can

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<v Speaker 1>be weapons. The problem that I have with this wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver class is one the vast majority of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that I think fit their system or inside receivers. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not touching Quentin Johnston with a ten foot poll for

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<v Speaker 1>the page. Well, not just the guys that pick their system.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the majority of the best receivers in this

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<v Speaker 1>after inside receivers. Right, so we're talking about guys at

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<v Speaker 1>inside receiver that also have flaws in terms of playing

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<v Speaker 1>obviously outside. I think speed, vertical speed, long speed is

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<v Speaker 1>something that some of these guys like a Jackson Smith

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<v Speaker 1>and Jigba is going to have a knock on unless

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<v Speaker 1>he goes to the combine and runs a four four.

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<v Speaker 1>If he even runs, I think that people are going

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about play speed or you know, elite top

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<v Speaker 1>end speed with a player like that. Jordan Addison I

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<v Speaker 1>think had a lot of struggles against press man when

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<v Speaker 1>he went to USC He was better in that situation

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<v Speaker 1>against when he was with Pitt, But he goes to

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<v Speaker 1>a better conference and he struggled. I thought, getting off

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<v Speaker 1>press coverage. Thank you for saying the PAC twelve is

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<v Speaker 1>a better conference than the ACCT it is it was,

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<v Speaker 1>and handling those types of things. I think size as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole with some of these guys, right Zay Flowers

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<v Speaker 1>say Flowers, Tank Dale right, size issues. So all of

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<v Speaker 1>these things, I think come back to what is how

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<v Speaker 1>do you hit the ball straight down on the runway.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll use a golf analogy for you, right, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you split the fairway here? Or fairway? I'm gonna go

0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:09.080
<v Speaker 1>with the fairway, that's correct, Yeah, how do you split

0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.839
<v Speaker 1>the fairway? And I think that there's this is why

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<v Speaker 1>I got the tackle, and I think number one, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest need. The season starts tomorrow. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know if they have a two starting caliber tackles. I

0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:25.040
<v Speaker 1>think Trent Brown you can count, but they definitely don't

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<v Speaker 1>have But he even Trent Brown's on the last year's contracts,

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<v Speaker 1>So you gotta start planning ahead and you don't even

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<v Speaker 1>you definitely don't have one. You have one starting tackle

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<v Speaker 1>missing right because you just don't even have anybody under

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<v Speaker 1>contract honestly to play right tackle at the moment or

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<v Speaker 1>left if you know you're flipping Trent back to right.

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<v Speaker 1>So tackles the biggest area of need on the roster,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think there's three guys that are Tier one

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<v Speaker 1>tackles in this class that realistically one of them I

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<v Speaker 1>think will be available at fourteen. Now, the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>I pegged at fourteen was Kronsky, and the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I did that is because I think Paris Johnson is

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<v Speaker 1>built in a lab to play left tackle in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the prototype, right He's He's a Tyre and Smith type.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like the guy that's just you printed him out

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a left tackle. He's six foot five, good length,

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<v Speaker 1>good balance, good all that stuff, like a good feet

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<v Speaker 1>like just exactly what you want in a tackle. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that guy is too polished and in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of his body type and his building his frame to

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<v Speaker 1>not go top ten. Broderick Jones, to me, is going

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<v Speaker 1>to put on an absolute show at the combine. You

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<v Speaker 1>can see it when he blocks in space on film

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<v Speaker 1>at Georgia. He can get out of his stance, he

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<v Speaker 1>can run, he can really block on the move, screens, polls,

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<v Speaker 1>second level climbs like whatever. He can do all that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that tells me that I think that he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to run really well and test really well and Indie,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that he'll be a fringe top ten,

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<v Speaker 1>like late like five to nine ten range, let's call it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that leaves Scarronsky, who I think is the least

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<v Speaker 1>likely to put up a huge onbine workout. I think

0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.200
<v Speaker 1>there are some concerns about his arm length. I am

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<v Speaker 1>not a big arm length guy, but that's gonna come

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<v Speaker 1>up in his draft evaluation. But ultimately, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the floor of him is extremely high. It's a safe pick.

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<v Speaker 1>He's tackled Coal Strange. You are gonna I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>more polished than Coal Strange. And I think that when

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<v Speaker 1>you draft him, you are drafting a player that and look,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody could get injured every like all that, like all

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<v Speaker 1>those types of caveats aside, you are drafting a player

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to be your starting tackle on either

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<v Speaker 1>the left or the right side for the next half

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<v Speaker 1>decade plus if you actually pay him when the time comes.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a whole separate conversation. So at least for

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<v Speaker 1>the rookie contract, you're not gonna you're gonna put him in.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna plug and play as a rookie, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna move him right and that and that I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's something to really be said for that. I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that maybe some people want a higher ceiling, like

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<v Speaker 1>they want that, you know, all pro maybe future type

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<v Speaker 1>of multi all probe type of player. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>at fourteen, you're really just trying to get a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that is a plug and play player as a rookie,

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<v Speaker 1>that isn't gonna miss and can really hold down a

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<v Speaker 1>position for you long term. And I think that that's

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<v Speaker 1>Scarnsky's tackle. It's the most likely option I think at

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen to fall to you amongst those Tier one tackles.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would also mention lastly, he can play on

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<v Speaker 1>the left side, which I think is important. Yeah, as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I don't think I don't think he's a

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<v Speaker 1>right tackle, I don't think he's a commo tackle like

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<v Speaker 1>that's just as much as I love guys like we've

0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:39.400
<v Speaker 1>talked about them a ton, Dawn Jones, Darnell Right from Tennessee,

0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:43.199
<v Speaker 1>I love those guys, but they're pure right tackles, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it's more important for them right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Tayo address left. Maybe you flip Trent Brown back to

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<v Speaker 1>right if Scarronsky is ready to go and you have

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<v Speaker 1>that for next year, and then you were you maybe

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<v Speaker 1>drafted right tackle later in the draft or another tackle prospect,

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<v Speaker 1>which I did in this and double dip at the

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<v Speaker 1>position to get two starters in one draft. So Scronsky

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<v Speaker 1>was my first round pick at fourteen. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>it's too easy of a projection for them. Give you

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting hypothetical, not a hypothetical, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>this is. Let's say they didn't need a tackle. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say it's like last year, right where you're set for

0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the position for one year. You know you're gonna need

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<v Speaker 1>a tackle next year. I almost wish they could draft

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<v Speaker 1>to Wan Jones, red shirt him, and like teach him

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle behind the scenes. I don't think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>way where I think there's a way that you could

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<v Speaker 1>play him at right tackle. And then let's say he's

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely balls out at right tackle. You could flip him

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<v Speaker 1>at some point. And I know that that scares some

0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.320
<v Speaker 1>people because of what it see. I wouldn't flip him

0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.719
<v Speaker 1>if he has to play immediately. That's the thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's possible. Look, it's risky though, that's and you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that. That's the thing. It's not the safe pick,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not I love to want Jones, man, he's so

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<v Speaker 1>freaking good. I like to want Jones a lot too.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not completely ruling out making you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't take another tackle on the top one hundred. I

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<v Speaker 1>took Steen in the fourth round. So maybe they do

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<v Speaker 1>go and take two tackles in the top one hundred

0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and really solidify that spot. But even still they're not

0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:11.320
<v Speaker 1>If they don't take Dwan Jones at fourteen, I don't

0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:15.560
<v Speaker 1>think you're getting no. And no, I don't think so either.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing that I didn't do trades in

0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:19.960
<v Speaker 1>this one because to me, sometimes I think we get

0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.000
<v Speaker 1>lost in the sauce with the trades, Like you're all

0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.639
<v Speaker 1>you're moving on and you're like, oh, I'm gonna trade this,

0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and i'm gonna trade that, and I'm gonna trade a

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<v Speaker 1>future pick. Like I'm just trying to get guys that

0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.959
<v Speaker 1>make sense, right, Like, and if if Joe, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Skrotsky ends up getting picked in the first thirteen picks

0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:38.359
<v Speaker 1>and they don't have a chance to draft them, then okay, whatever,

0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.440
<v Speaker 1>But we need to talk about Skarroski. Yeah, Like he's

0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.000
<v Speaker 1>somebody that they could easily target in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>So my second round pick was Josh Downs from uncom

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<v Speaker 1>preseason some people. For some people can't. The feedback that

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<v Speaker 1>I got was that it's too low, right, that he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go higher than this. I don't really like that.

0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Are those discussions either, because somebody always falls, like somebody

0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:05.240
<v Speaker 1>we're not expecting always falls. Somebody that we're not expecting

0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:07.280
<v Speaker 1>we think is going to go in the thirties goes

0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.520
<v Speaker 1>in the forties, and so on and so forth. So

0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:11.560
<v Speaker 1>we don't know for one hundred percent fact that jo

0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Down is gonna go higher. What I like about Josh

0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:16.719
<v Speaker 1>Downs compared can I Can I just make one more

0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:19.120
<v Speaker 1>point on that before you get into the player himself. Yeah,

0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:23.960
<v Speaker 1>this is a class. We're at that position. Jordan Atison,

0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Jackson Smith and Jigbaze, Flowers, k Shawn Boutet. There's so

0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:32.600
<v Speaker 1>much talent at that very specialized position. Somebody in that

0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:35.160
<v Speaker 1>group's gonna fall. Yeah, somebody in that group's gonna fall.

0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:36.320
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, on the board we use so

0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:38.800
<v Speaker 1>you took him forty six, Yeah, they've Josh Downs forty four,

0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.840
<v Speaker 1>So that's not a stretch at all. Yeah, So Josh Downs.

0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:44.480
<v Speaker 1>The reason why I like him over a guy like

0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Isa Flowers in particular, or our guy Tank Dell, who

0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.720
<v Speaker 1>we both really like, yeah, is that he's a little

0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.000
<v Speaker 1>bit more girthy than those two guys. Right, he's five

0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:57.200
<v Speaker 1>foot teine five. I think he's built to a stand

0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:00.480
<v Speaker 1>getting targeted one hundred times in the slot, little bit

0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:03.200
<v Speaker 1>more than those two guys are. And he's got that

0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.639
<v Speaker 1>list five seventy five. I think he's bigger than that.

0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I think you look at the the Edelman or the

0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Welker comparisons, I think that he's a thicker build. I

0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:16.399
<v Speaker 1>think he's got sort of that running back type of

0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:19.919
<v Speaker 1>frame where he's a little bit thicker. He's got a

0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:23.280
<v Speaker 1>low center of gravity, can change directions really well, can

0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:25.679
<v Speaker 1>pick up yards after the catch with the football in

0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.640
<v Speaker 1>his hands. This is Mac Jones's jitterbug, right, Like this

0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:32.400
<v Speaker 1>is his slot receiver, his Welker, his Edelman, his get

0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:36.120
<v Speaker 1>open in his foam booth, catch the football, add five

0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:38.320
<v Speaker 1>six yards to it after the catch when he's got

0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:41.160
<v Speaker 1>some breathing room, and keep him to chains moving. That's

0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:43.479
<v Speaker 1>that's who Josh Downs is. And I'll say they have

0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:45.720
<v Speaker 1>to hit on that skill set in this draft. Josh

0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Downs from everything and I haven't talked him personally, but

0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:52.560
<v Speaker 1>from everything I understand about him. So day of Drake

0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:55.200
<v Speaker 1>may come in last year unc Drake may I believe

0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:57.359
<v Speaker 1>he was a true freshman or was he a redshirt freshman?

0:21:57.400 --> 0:21:59.919
<v Speaker 1>Either way first year as a starter. I mean, he's

0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:05.480
<v Speaker 1>a high ranked recruister richer freshman and like he tore

0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.920
<v Speaker 1>it up and Josh Downs was that guy that kind

0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:12.280
<v Speaker 1>of you have this young, inexperienced quarterback that he felt

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:14.399
<v Speaker 1>he could go to. Now Mac Jones is gonna be

0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:16.800
<v Speaker 1>more experienced than Josh Downs. The roles kind of flipped there.

0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:19.679
<v Speaker 1>But this is a guy who kind of knows how

0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 1>to carry a quarterback along. Yeah, and that's certainly something

0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:26.000
<v Speaker 1>to Patriots. Yeah. I talked about, you know, potentially replacing

0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Jacoby Myers. That's something Jacoby Myers is excellent with kind

0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.200
<v Speaker 1>of just helping Mac Jones along. There's a guy that

0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:33.840
<v Speaker 1>third down, he's gonna be your first read all the

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<v Speaker 1>time and he's going to deliver more often than not. Yeah.

0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:40.800
<v Speaker 1>So Dante Skarneck has been on various shows and stuff

0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.160
<v Speaker 1>like that, and he's talked about needing to get mac

0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Jones his binkie, Like, who's this guy when he's third

0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:47.959
<v Speaker 1>and five and he needs a first down? Who can

0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 1>he immediately look to. I think Jacobe Myers has has

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<v Speaker 1>tried and at times elevated to that status, but I

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:57.240
<v Speaker 1>think they need somebody that's a little bit more dynamic

0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:59.639
<v Speaker 1>and more consistent in that role. And I think Downs

0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:01.760
<v Speaker 1>can do that. And I just think that in general,

0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:05.080
<v Speaker 1>whether it's Downs, whether it's Flowers, whether it's Jackson, Smith

0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and Jim there's so many options of that skill set

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<v Speaker 1>in this draft that it seems inexcusable to me to

0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:14.639
<v Speaker 1>not come away with one. They have to draft one

0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:17.399
<v Speaker 1>of those guys. It does, but we've also done this before.

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:20.159
<v Speaker 1>We did it at linebacker last year. We did a

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:23.560
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver yere. But just because they don't do it

0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:25.240
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that it's the right I know, I know,

0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I just and look, I think they're again, They're three

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:30.880
<v Speaker 1>biggest needs are so far, in a way, the three

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:33.880
<v Speaker 1>best positions in the traft. And maybe you could argue

0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 1>their fourth biggest need is tight end and that's another

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 1>excellent position in this draft. Yeah, Like I'm trying to

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 1>temperate my expectations because they never attack these strong classes.

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:44.879
<v Speaker 1>But I'm almost kind of agreeing with you in different way.

0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Those other years, it's not like they went out and

0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:51.880
<v Speaker 1>took players they didn't need, right, But it's so it's

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna be so hard for them this year to not

0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 1>pick from the strongest positions, just given the way the

0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 1>board sets up in everything. And I last year and

0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I we're gonna get to talk to him again, and

0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to having his answer about this again.

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:10.439
<v Speaker 1>Last year Macro talked about having to attack the receiver

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.000
<v Speaker 1>position a little bit differently, and now it's a position

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:17.560
<v Speaker 1>of great premium value that you need to go out

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and get these guys. You can't just sit back and

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.400
<v Speaker 1>hang out and wait for somebody in the seventh round

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 1>to turn into Julian Edelman anymore. So I look at it,

0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:29.240
<v Speaker 1>and I say, with receiver, especially because it's so much

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:31.679
<v Speaker 1>cheaper to find them in the draft than it is

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 1>to go out in free agency or out in the

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.439
<v Speaker 1>veteran trade market. In the choir one like, let's say

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:38.720
<v Speaker 1>they go out and they I don't think he's getting moved,

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>but if they trade for T Higgins, now you're gonna

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 1>have to give T Higgins a five year, one hundred

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 1>and twenty five million dollar contract salary cap, and he

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:49.880
<v Speaker 1>traded a first round pick for him, right, in all

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.919
<v Speaker 1>these different things, So the best and easiest way, well,

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say the easiest, the best way in terms

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:58.160
<v Speaker 1>of a cost and just in terms of a value.

0:24:58.200 --> 0:24:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess the best way to put it. It's a

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>draft these guys, and my inclination is then to take

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:06.159
<v Speaker 1>that and say, well, then you should keep taking stabs

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:08.880
<v Speaker 1>until you find it right. Like they took Tae Quad

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:10.959
<v Speaker 1>in the second round last year. If they take one

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 1>of that group that we've been mentioning a bunch here

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>today in the first or second round this year, like

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:18.719
<v Speaker 1>this is what, you should keep taking stabs at it

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and bites at the apple until you get it right.

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 1>They can also, they can do both too, right. They

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:27.879
<v Speaker 1>can use a second round pick on a guy like

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Josh Downs and then double up with Tamario Douglas later

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:32.920
<v Speaker 1>in the draft. And I'll say this too, Bill O'Brien's offense.

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 1>At times they could run two slot receivers. Yeah, I

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:40.680
<v Speaker 1>mean Edelman and Amndola did it right, Welker and sort

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 1>of Edelman even at Alabama that would kind of get

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 1>weird with it with Mechi and Slave Bolden. Yeah, so

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a post of doubling up at the position either. Yeah,

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I just think you need to keep taking swings there

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 1>because these wide receivers in the draft. Every draft class,

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:59.119
<v Speaker 1>I know the Patriots haven't had the best luck, but

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:02.159
<v Speaker 1>every draft class, it seems like there's a half a

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 1>dozen guys that come out that end up being starters

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and maybe even stars even in later rounds. Like it

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily need to be a first round pick. There's

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 1>guys in the day two that have been coming out

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 1>for years now that ended up being hit. So the

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>round out the top one hundred, I took Julius Brents

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>with my third round pick here at a Kansas State.

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Both of us have talked a little bit about him.

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we've talked about I've talked about

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 1>on air together, but Julius Brents is the day two

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:38.160
<v Speaker 1>long athletic outside corner right six foot three, two hundred pounds.

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought what really stood out at the Senior Bowl

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 1>in one on one drills and the film that I

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 1>saw from practices was his ability to flip his hips

0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:49.679
<v Speaker 1>and get out and run right, And that's not something

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:51.919
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of guys at that size can do.

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Can you transition your hips? Can you get out and

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>get off a press coverage and then flip and run

0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:59.160
<v Speaker 1>with a guy like That's not easy to do at

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>six foot three. He's not leggy, He's not He doesn't

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>stall out of his transitions. He's really quick and smooth

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>out of the transitions. And I think when you look

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>at learning from past mistakes with that skill set, like

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>a Juan Williams, Juan Williams ran in the four sixes,

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 1>Juan Williams couldn't transition, flip and run right like that

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 1>was the biggest issue that he has. I think that

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>a guy like Brands, at least at least from what

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I've seen, can do that a little bit more consistently.

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 1>He was also in a system at Kansas State where

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>he was just asked to be on an island, like, yeah,

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 1>most of the game, you got this guy right man

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>coverage on an island. So he went up against Quinton

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Johnston at TCU twice. It was a back and forth battle,

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I think in the big the regular season. Yet I

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>can't remember which one it was one of them. Quinton

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Johnson put up some numbers against Quintin Johnston. So he

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.680
<v Speaker 1>had in the Big Twelve championship game, he had four

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>for one fifty six. Yeah, but he had like an

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 1>eighty yard catch seventy eighty yard like catch and run

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 1>that was just on a I think it was on

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:02.640
<v Speaker 1>zone because it was like at the end of the half. Yeah,

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:04.880
<v Speaker 1>that might have not been Brenton coverage on that one.

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>So he got bee. He got called for a couple

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>of DPIs in that game, but does get he does

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>get a little handy. That's my one. Yeah, I think

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 1>that he'll need to refine that. I think he needs

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>to refine being able to track the football in the

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>air a little bit better. I think that's what happens

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 1>is that he loses the ball a little bit and

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>then the receiver stop to go up and elevate for

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:23.639
<v Speaker 1>the football and he's on top of him right and

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>then against the flags. So I think that there's going

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>to be some elements of his game that need to

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 1>be seasoned, that need to be worked out. But if

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 1>there's one thing that I think I'm confident in them

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.400
<v Speaker 1>being able to do, is to coach up those elements

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>of cornerbacks, right, like the details. Yeah, I think when

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 1>they've missed in the past, it's they've missed on the athlete, right,

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>they've missed on the actual movement skill of the player,

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily that they can't coach him up. And this

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>goes back to like what we were doing last year

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>with Tarique Woolen. And I don't think he's Tarique Woolen,

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>but he's six three two o two. He can move.

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Just get him in the building and you'll figure it

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 1>out after that because you do have a good, great

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 1>coaching staff on the defensive side of the ball and

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 1>whether it's tim and a good track record developing that position, right,

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 1>any one of these big corners, I think Brent is

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>that he's my favorite of the like non obvious first

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>round pick ones. But just get him in the building

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:14.959
<v Speaker 1>and figure out because boy would have six three corner

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>When you got to play the Bengals with t Higgins

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and Jamar Chase, when you got to play the Raiders

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>with Devanta Adams, when there's all these teams with big

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>receivers in the AFC, right, when you gotta go play

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 1>those teams, you have a guy that look, Marcus Jones

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 1>going against both DeAndre Hopkins and and Devanta Adams was

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>so much better than anybody could have expected. But at

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, he's going to be five eight,

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>And there were times when that came up like there

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>was nothing. They're just throwing jump balls and six four

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>te Higgins is going to be able to get up higher.

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>So having a guy like Julius Brents would just completely

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>change the way they can operate against some of these

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>elite offenses. Yeah. I think we're talking to people at

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>the Shrine Bowl sizek corner and tackle or the two

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 1>biggest things that kept on coming size of tackle, just

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 1>like tackled right, Yeah, it kept on coming up at

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>in conversations, and I think that you you said, oh,

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>what do you think about this guy? What do you

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>think about that guy? And a lot of the time

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>when you when you pointed out one of these Jack Jones,

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Marcus Jones type of corners, a guy you know like

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Keetroll Clark we really liked and practices out of Louisville.

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 1>You got, well, we got Keetroll Clark, right, we got

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>three Keatroll Clark. So did see another thing I would

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>love them doubling up and taking a guy like a

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Keetroll Clark or a Miles Brooks later on in the draft.

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>But hey, that can't that can't be all you come

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>away with. Yeah, so I'll just ridele off these. Yeah,

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, we're thirty five minutes in, We've

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 1>done three picks. Trey Dean in the fourth round, trading

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>U Shrine Bowl State, like the the player of the

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Shrine Bowl, I think. And he was on the West

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>team with the Patriots coach. And we heard some guys

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>that really on the coaching staff that were really high

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>on Trey Dean and he was. He was really high

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>on the coaching staff too. I think that does matter here.

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Yep uh Tyler Stein from Alabama. They're left tackle who

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I think is a tackle and I think can play

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>either side most likely. I love that he played in

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 1>the SEC his whole career, went to Vanderbilt first and

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 1>then he transferred Alabama. So a very good tackle prospect.

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I think from where you're gonna get him. Here's just

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>a quick thing on seen. Yeah. I always look at

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and Alabama doesn't do transfers as much as everybody else,

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>just because and this is kind of changing now. But

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't transfer out of Alabama, right, so there aren't

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>as many guys coming in. But when Nick Saban takes

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>a guy who he's played against multiple times and says

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I've got to get him, especially from a program like Vanderbilt,

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 1>that tells me a lot. So Steen I think can

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 1>start in the NFL. Also, I think he's got st

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>start right away though starting caliber traits. I don't know

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>if you can start right away, but if you assume

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>that Trent is going to start for a year, and

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 1>then maybe Steen is the guy that in two years,

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 1>because you're gonna start Gronsky in this instance, Yeah, in

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>year one, last fourth ground pick a lot to Cameron

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Latto from Alabama. The tight end we talked, you talked

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>about it briefly. Loaded tight end class, one of the

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 1>tight end classes in recent memory. I think you have

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>to pick someone out of that hat. Yeah, and I

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 1>took a lot to for obvious reasons. The Alabama connection.

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 1>If you look at his stats under Bill O'Brien the

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>last two years, that's when his career really took off

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>at Alabama, was playing under Bill O'Brien. I think is

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>a really solid route runner. I think he's somebody that's

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>a very crisp and sharp out of his cuts and

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't drift and doesn't, you know, do those little things

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>that allowed defensive backs to get back in there. I

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>think he can block a little bit. I think he

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>can move around a little bit. I don't think he's

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>got the ceiling that some of these other guys at

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the top, because he doesn't have that top end athleticism.

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:39.080
<v Speaker 1>But I think that he's just a solid, well rounded

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>player on his ceiling though, And when you talk about

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>his route running, I feel like we don't talk about

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>these guys like he's a smart route runner. You watch

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>him against zone like he knows where to go. And

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:50.239
<v Speaker 1>part of the reason is he actually was recruited as

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 1>a defensive end and then switched to tight end after

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>his first year. So when I see a guy like that,

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that he is a ceiling of like

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Musgrave or Kincaide, but like I think he actually has

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 1>sneaky ceiling. You're right, he doesn't have the athleticism. He's

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>never gonna run like a four four. But the fact

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>he's only been playing the position three really two years,

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>and he's gotten this far leads me to believe it,

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>like he's a guy that can pick things up quickly

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>in all of that, especially in this system. I think

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>he knows the system like they sneaky upside for him.

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Sixth round. I know you told me this was too

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>late for Jake Moody, but I took too late for

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Jake Moody, the kicker from Michigan. I think that they're

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna come away with a kicker or a punter. They're

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna draft one of them. They have these these sixth

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 1>round picks. Maybe they package the two sixth round picks

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>and move up back into the fifth round for their

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 1>special teams round they don't currently have. They're a fifth

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>round pick. They don't round pick get one. Some places

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>are projecting the Kerass comp pick could come to the fifth,

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 1>not a six yet it's possible. The next guy here,

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Tyrius Wheat from Misissippi State, another Shrine Bowl guy that

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>they absolutely loved on the West team. Edge defender two

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>sixty two sixty five, can play with his hand in

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the dirt or stand up linebacker on the outside, someone

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>that just sets the edge the way that they want

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>people to set the edge. He's not gonna be super flashy.

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna jump out at you with all that

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. But he's just a sturdy, rock solid,

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 1>strong side edge defender, which we know they desperately like

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>three down defensive end, which I love. He kind of

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:21.280
<v Speaker 1>reminds me of Teatrick Wise a little bit. And there's

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:23.840
<v Speaker 1>another guy they worked with the Shrine Bowl, Haba Cookball Donado.

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>He was in here originally and I swopped him out

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 1>for a week. Hey yeah, I also took Wheat in

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>the same spot in my mock draft, and I had

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>a really tough time between the two of them. So

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I think Habba is a little bit more upside with

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>his athleticism. He's somebody that really can jump off the

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.919
<v Speaker 1>film on that first step right now, first step explosiveness

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 1>that get off is really impressive from Haba. But I

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 1>think that Habba to them will be like a situational rusher,

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>right So I think Wheat is that early down run.

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>I say, though we only overlapped. I saw your draft thirty.

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 1>We only overlapped five picks this year only, and I

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:01.320
<v Speaker 1>think only four of them are taken in the same spot.

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>So I just look at their their edge group and

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Ch and Jennings are gonna be free agents. Their rookie

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 1>deals are coming up next offseason. But they also have

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>guys like Judean who's on the TVs right now talking.

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 1>That's a nice sweatshirt. There you go, Judean Ch those

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 1>guys to our pass rushers, right, they need somebody that

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I think is gonna hold up a tight end and

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>a combo block on the outside. Right, that that could be.

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:30.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what they want Jennings to be as well.

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.479
<v Speaker 1>But I think that we would join that mix here

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>in the sixth round. Still Travis Die from USC the

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 1>running back. This is where I think they should take

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.879
<v Speaker 1>a running back somewhere on day three, three years ago,

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:42.799
<v Speaker 1>when we started working together, you would have never made

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 1>this pick. You would have been so annoyed when I

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:47.360
<v Speaker 1>suggested it. I am so proud of you for putting

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>this pick in it kind of paying me. Still, You're

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>he won me over talking to him. So I think

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 1>that Die would have went a little bit higher if

0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:59.280
<v Speaker 1>he was healthy and he could do all the people

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>would have infringed on the showcases and stuff. But he

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>injured his ankle towards the end of last season, so

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 1>he's been held out of all these types of the

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Shrine Bowl. He was there just for interviews and to

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>be with the team. He was out there at practice though.

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 1>He didn't participate though, but he was like standing out

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>there with the coaches, taking the coach and that's something

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:18.879
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna notice. Yeah. So Travis d Usc I think

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>has a chance to be a James White, right. I

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 1>think he's got that change of direction. I think he's

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:25.800
<v Speaker 1>got that aciman in the passing game. He can pass block,

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 1>really good pass block. Smart kid. I think he understands

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 1>his role in the passing game and all those types

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 1>of things. So he's been working with Shane Vereen actually

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. He told me, there you go, change

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 1>of direction at the top of the route, that type

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. All right, h next sixth rounder forsythe from Oregon,

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>Alex Forsyth. So I went back and forth on this

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>one too, because they have that tackle that was at

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>the Shrine Bowl that I'm not gonna try to pronounce

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 1>his name. Well, they also have t J. Bass, right,

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 1>he's the left tackle. Um, but uh Malisila, I'm not

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna do. Just do the initials M A. L. L

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Are the initials right tackle right, Yeah, the right tackle

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 1>from Oregon. He was at the Shrine Bowl on the

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>East team. He's an NFL caliber player. TJ. Bass. You

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 1>mentioned their left tackle is probably gonna move inside the

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>guard in the NFL. He's an NFL caliberlier A caliber player.

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Forsyth is their center, who's an NFL caliber player for

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the starting center for the last two years. I think

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 1>they like Cody Russi a lot. I do, but I

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>think once you start to plan for post David Andrews,

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:30.680
<v Speaker 1>it would be nice to have multiple guys that could

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 1>potentially fill the center role moving forward. And the reason

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously that we take an Oregon guy here is because

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>of Adrian Clem reportedly coming on board. I think that

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be somebody that he's gonna have one

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>of his guys, whether it's a UDFA or it's a

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 1>late round pick, Like if I took forsythe he's gonna

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 1>get one of his guys. I just think Bass is

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>interesting because there's some three positional versatility. Yeah, he could

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 1>he could move around. I think like that. Yeah, so

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that I went with Bass in that spot, Yeah, that's

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 1>not bad. Okay. Seventh round another Shrine Bowl stand out,

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Orgy from Vanderbilt, the linebacker. I really liked what

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.439
<v Speaker 1>Eric Gaalco had to tell us about him. The first

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>thing that he mentioned is that he's a downhill player,

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 1>right attack the line of scrimmage, take on blockers, play

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:18.279
<v Speaker 1>the run well. And then I thought from all that,

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I actually thought that his passing coverage stood out a

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>little bit in Vegas and he was a much better

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>player in space or player in coverage than maybe he

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 1>was getting credit for from some of the people coming in.

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 1>So that was the mock draft. I really thought that

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.280
<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing for me was trying to dip into

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 1>some of these stronger classes this year. Tackle, corner, receiver,

0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>tight end. Like I thought that you really needed to

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 1>come away with a player at each one of those positions.

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Before we wrap up this and take some calls. What's

0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 1>your biggest gripe with my mock draft, Alex that I

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 1>need your biggest gripe that Jake Moody's not going in

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the in the sixth ride, No, um, I it is

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that don't you don't don't change your stance. It is

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 1>that honestly, so I think it's a Forsyth pick. They're

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 1>so just the numbers, like, not even the depth in

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>terms of talent. Okay, so let me explain it a

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit further because it's a fair gripe. Yeah, so

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Forsyth can play center. He's listed at six foot three,

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:16.799
<v Speaker 1>three hundred pounds, it's a little bit thin to be

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 1>a guard, but I think that he could play guard. Okay,

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and we're getting to that point now. I hate, I

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>hate to do this, but like with Mike on Winny, like,

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>are we paying Mike on winning or are we not

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 1>paying Mike on winning? Like, yeah, I just what's the

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna do that, you've got to invest a

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>little more than a guy who's because he's never played guard.

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Forsyth. I think he I think he

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 1>played clearly on in his career. He played a little bit.

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:46.240
<v Speaker 1>It's like significant snap. It's at that point, go get

0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 1>go get a guard or like I just I either

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:52.800
<v Speaker 1>want positional versatility there or I just want raw sizes

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 1>like Dalton Wagner. Right, that's kind of where met I'll

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 1>tell you where we're both wrong though. Okay, So as

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:01.439
<v Speaker 1>I go through your draft here, you have big ten

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 1>acc Big twelve, SEC, SEC, Big ten, sec, Pac twelve,

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Pac twelve sec. I'll tell you by for mine right now.

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Spoiler alert SEC Big twelve, AAC SEC, SEC Pac twelve,

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 1>Big ten, SEC, Big twelve, Pac twelve. There's no Chattanooga.

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 1>There there's no I forget where Sam Roberts went. Northwest

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 1>northwest Missouri state. There's no South Dakota state. As much

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.799
<v Speaker 1>as I love the defending National Champion jack round, it

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't And this is maybe wishful thinking on my part,

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and I guess on your part two for your future

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:46.919
<v Speaker 1>mock draft here, but this has got to be they

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 1>have and I understand that Kyle Dugger is a good

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:50.959
<v Speaker 1>player and they got him from the D two level

0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't always work not work out. I get that,

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>but it just feels like, especially in the first round

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>at fourteen, is a premium pick. That's not that's not

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighth, right. I know they traded down, but so

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:06.439
<v Speaker 1>so so what I'm saying, let me give you last

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:09.360
<v Speaker 1>year FC. I don't know any that most of the

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>conferences beyond uh FBS SO FCS Big twelve, AAC, Pac twelve, FCS,

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Sun Belt SEC D two SEC, Big ten that's painful.

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 1>But let's go the year before SEC SEC Big twelve,

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Big twelve, Big ten, SEC PAC twelve and then AAC

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 1>SO and that went in twenty twenty one, might be

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:32.759
<v Speaker 1>the best draft they've had in a decade. Yeah, so,

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 1>like we're kind of both projecting them. And now, look,

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 1>you you know my thing I want. I want name

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:44.240
<v Speaker 1>brand players. I want guys that played at big schools,

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 1>like I can go and watch Peter Scronsky against legitimate

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>pass rushers in that conference, the Ohio State guys. I

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 1>went and watched them against Aidan Hutchinson the year before this, right,

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 1>like guys that are playing in the league at a

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:01.760
<v Speaker 1>high level, Like I don't need Chattanooga and there's another

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 1>guy offensive lineman from Chattanooga in this draft, by the well,

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:06.279
<v Speaker 1>so let me bring this one a Cody Mok who

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I think you you really actually like more than me.

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:10.839
<v Speaker 1>I would have no where. This is the most surprising

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.439
<v Speaker 1>development on the DRAFTIC guys, this is this is the

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:16.839
<v Speaker 1>North Dakota State converted guard that is missing his two

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 1>front teeth and that plays with the jersey rolled up

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 1>in his gut out that Evan just loves. This is

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the player Evan is hated for yet in Vegas, horrible

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>for you. You're drafting running backs, you like the North

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Dakota State guards. But my point close of out of

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 1>his stance, he generates movement. He plays with nastiness, like

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:38.840
<v Speaker 1>this is like the type of like that's offensive. But

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 1>here's my point, Cody Mock, you like neither, like you

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:44.239
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be upset if they took him in the third round.

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'd be upset in the first round

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 1>because well, but here's my point, Like that's the Summit

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Conference where like there's smaller school players in this draft

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:56.160
<v Speaker 1>that we like, but this feels more like, you know,

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.359
<v Speaker 1>they've done this in the past, they've overcorrected, right, even

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 1>when things work, they will overcorrect away from it. So

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:05.919
<v Speaker 1>how do you overcorrect from Chattanooga in South Dakota State,

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 1>in Western Kentucky, in Northwest Missouri State. And it's nothing

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 1>against the players, it's just it's a different approach. You

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:15.880
<v Speaker 1>go big sec big, big twelve when the big twelve

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:17.919
<v Speaker 1>is maybe as good as it's ever been this way,

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately it's on the way up. Let's another story. You know,

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you go, I didn't go big on the big ten

0:43:23.040 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 1>you did, but like you go big into those big conferences.

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:29.960
<v Speaker 1>If I'm not a big, big ten guy, but if

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 1>it's in the trenches, the big ten gets the trenches, correct,

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Big ten gets the trenches right, like the SEC. If

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:40.240
<v Speaker 1>you if you're gonna draft defensive players, skill players, corners,

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:43.359
<v Speaker 1>receivers like, I definitely go SEC all day, but when

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>it comes to tackles and offensive linemen like those guys

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:50.560
<v Speaker 1>get that type of play and I love the mentality. Oh,

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:52.319
<v Speaker 1>the big ten is a line. We could do a

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 1>whole show on which positions you draft from which conference,

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 1>but we gotta take some calls. All right, We're gonna

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:59.240
<v Speaker 1>take some calls now. Thanks for hanging on on the phones.

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>We appreciate shade us our deliberation back and forth on

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<v Speaker 1>mock draft. One point now that's on Patriots dot com

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<v Speaker 1>right now, Patty and Aga on what's up Patty, Look guys, Heyton,

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<v Speaker 1>First thing, First things first, great job last week. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in formative and entertaining. I loved it. Um So

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 1>I want to kind of peeback off of Alex's situation

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 1>where let's pretend that they they fixed the offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>at least for this coming year. There's three guys I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to see them possibly take in the

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<v Speaker 1>first round at wide receiver. And I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>get sure, guys that you know, if you can do

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<v Speaker 1>a quick sum because I know you probably get other

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<v Speaker 1>calls moeting just the pros and cons of these three

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<v Speaker 1>guys in this system and Bill O'Brien's system, Zay Flowers,

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Addison, and Keishan Boutier. And I'll hang up and listen. Guys, thanks, Patty.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, three guys that we both are pretty familiar with.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is the second tier of the slot receivers

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 1>after Jackson Smith and Jacob pretty much. So he said,

0:44:56.760 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 1>Zay Flowers, right, Yeah, Addison was in the Kee So

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 1>you're throwing Josh downs and that's the second tier of

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:04.839
<v Speaker 1>slot receivers JS and I think is in his own tier.

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 1>So Zay Flowers, electric player, electric with the football in

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 1>his hands, can go vertical, right, can do all that

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:16.400
<v Speaker 1>he is from a movement standpoint, one of the more

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 1>exciting players in the draft, like just an absolute jitterbug,

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 1>explosive guy, rocked up all that. But five to nine

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 1>one seventy, right, I think is what he's at right

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 1>now and he I that part of it does have

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 1>some hesitation for me because in this offense, in Bill

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 1>O'Brien's offense, that guy's gonna be targeted one hundred and

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:40.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty times, and is he going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>take the wear and tear of being targeted one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty times in the slot in the NFL going

0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 1>over the middle, that type of stuff. I don't look

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 1>at his body type and see, you know, when Edelman

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 1>used to walk around here, Edelman was like a UFC fighter,

0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Like that guy was rocked up right. And I stand

0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 1>next to Zay Flowers, I'm like, you know, he's a

0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit slighter framed. And that's why I like Downs

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:03.360
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more for this mock was because I

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.360
<v Speaker 1>think he's a little bit stift. Flowers also won't be

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:07.239
<v Speaker 1>there at forty six, and that's part of it too.

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Um yeah to me, so just real quick with Flowers.

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 1>The pros is obviously how well he moves. I mean,

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>he just looks natural gliding around the field. He's explosive

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:18.440
<v Speaker 1>with the ball in his hands. I would be really

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 1>worried about his durability. Jordan Addison teams are gonna figure

0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:25.319
<v Speaker 1>out very quick if you get in his face. He

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 1>pressed him at the line. If you start kind of

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 1>hitting him early in the game, you know, really make

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.359
<v Speaker 1>him feel it. He can fade a little bit, and

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:34.960
<v Speaker 1>that's not something you can have from that position at all.

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:37.239
<v Speaker 1>If anything, you get stronger the more you get hit.

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Julian nedelman Us talk about the more he took hits,

0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:42.759
<v Speaker 1>the more fearless he get. I don't know if I

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 1>said this to you on or off the air, if

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I said it on another show. Kashawn Boutet is the

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<v Speaker 1>gem in this draft. Now there's the exact type of

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:53.799
<v Speaker 1>guy that they picked though and he and he's an

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 1>absolute bust because he's such a projections though. He's one

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 1>hundred ten percent project Actually he didn't play, but he

0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 1>played in twenty twenty one. He was excellent. Yeah, but

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 1>like you're, I think you're. He was the consensus number

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:08.799
<v Speaker 1>one receiver in this class for almost a year for

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:11.360
<v Speaker 1>a reason. He's a great talent. I just think that

0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 1>you are. You're fully hoping that you can capture that

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:16.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one season lightning in a bub. But don't

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:19.080
<v Speaker 1>they do this a lot? Remember they did this with Barmore.

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that they haven't done it. I'm just

0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 1>saying how much success have they really had doing it.

0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Barmore was a guy who had a better you know,

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember the exact year of class, but like

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 1>two years before the draft, Barmore is better than his

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 1>last year in college. Um who, I just did this

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:38.319
<v Speaker 1>the other day. Romandre was another. Ramandre was suspended, Yeah,

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 1>most of his last year at Oklahoma. Right, you're swaying,

0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:44.759
<v Speaker 1>and he came back and and um again, I wish

0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I could remember the other names of these guys, but

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 1>like they've done this before, Jack Jones, it's a you

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 1>gotta go like all the way back, Like he was

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 1>better as a freshman. Dissatified of the guy that Boote

0:47:56.680 --> 0:47:58.719
<v Speaker 1>to me is like a ball of clay right, Like

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 1>he's he's exactly what you want at a receiver. Like

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 1>he's super talented, explosive, I can do all sorts of

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 1>different things out on the field. Six foot two oh five.

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 1>You can probably play him on the boundary a little

0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:12.279
<v Speaker 1>bit if you really like you could. He's not just

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 1>a spot receivers Flowers and George Best on film. He's

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:19.719
<v Speaker 1>a little bit Odell like, but when he's at his best,

0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 1>who's better than him in this draft? I don't know

0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:26.359
<v Speaker 1>if anybody is. And the other thing is like everybody wants, oh,

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:29.399
<v Speaker 1>just draft to number one receiver, Like just draft that

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:31.879
<v Speaker 1>guy's not there for them in this draft. Yeah, it's

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:35.600
<v Speaker 1>the fourteenth pick. That guy's not there. Quinn Johnson isn't

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 1>going to be that guy in this offense. And Flowers

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 1>and Addison have their limitations. They do they can be

0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:42.839
<v Speaker 1>a guy, but they can't be the guy. The one

0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 1>guy in this draft I think can be the guy

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:48.759
<v Speaker 1>for them, not will be, but can be. But in

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the second round, it's like, it's not that first round risk.

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.480
<v Speaker 1>How's he Honestly, how's any different than Tai Kwon last year?

0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Was Taekwon on massive swing. I'm not saying it's any different.

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that in form my opinion because they

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 1>took that swing on Tai Kwon, which is based almost

0:49:05.000 --> 0:49:09.360
<v Speaker 1>basically a traits pick, right like fast guy, great, forty

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>blazing speed. I just I gravitate towards the safer pick

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:16.160
<v Speaker 1>because I think that that is a guy that a

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:18.800
<v Speaker 1>reliable guy I think would do better in this style

0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:21.560
<v Speaker 1>of offense than the high the high ceiling guy. And

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:23.920
<v Speaker 1>so I look at a guy like js N Jackson

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Smith and Jigbe from Ohio State, and I know for

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 1>a fact watching him that all thirty two teams are

0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:33.480
<v Speaker 1>going to be kicking themselves because they pass on him

0:49:33.480 --> 0:49:36.240
<v Speaker 1>in the first round this year. But it's still really

0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:38.719
<v Speaker 1>JSS not gonna be a first round pick. I don't

0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 1>think so. Really, I don't think so. Yeah. I mean,

0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:43.200
<v Speaker 1>if you can get Jsen at forty six, I don't

0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 1>think six. I think he'll be a thirties pick. I

0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:49.800
<v Speaker 1>think I think he'll be early second round unless he runs.

0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:52.320
<v Speaker 1>If he runs, and he puts up a good number.

0:49:52.520 --> 0:49:54.439
<v Speaker 1>But there's a lot of people that I think are

0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:56.960
<v Speaker 1>really concerned about his play speed, Like he's not a

0:49:56.960 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 1>fast receiver. He doesn't pop off the film when watch

0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:02.960
<v Speaker 1>him run, and I think that's gonna be a concern

0:50:03.040 --> 0:50:04.920
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of teams. But I know for a

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:07.120
<v Speaker 1>fact that we're gonna come back to it in three

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:09.160
<v Speaker 1>years and jays End is gonna be like Michael Thomas

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:11.879
<v Speaker 1>in this draft right, and everybody we're gonna be like, well,

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:13.759
<v Speaker 1>what the heck, Like, why did you know it was

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:15.839
<v Speaker 1>a little better than Michael Thomas. And I mean Michael

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:20.799
<v Speaker 1>Thomas was awesome for for one year. I don't know.

0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I just I look at Boutet and it's like debt. Yes,

0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:25.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a risky pick. That's also the pick outside of

0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:28.600
<v Speaker 1>last year, And that's the pick they haven't made that

0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:30.279
<v Speaker 1>we've kind of been waiting for them to make. They

0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:32.839
<v Speaker 1>keep making these safe picks at wide receiver and they

0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:35.120
<v Speaker 1>don't pa. I don't think Taekwon was a safe pick.

0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:38.000
<v Speaker 1>That's the one exception, but like going back before that,

0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:40.239
<v Speaker 1>it is just a lot of safe picks and and

0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Boutet is the you're talking about the athlete, the guy

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:45.440
<v Speaker 1>who's rocked up, like the term you like to use, right,

0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the guy that can can jump out of the gym

0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:53.279
<v Speaker 1>and explode out of the gates. Bill O'Brien's going to

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:55.680
<v Speaker 1>figure it out with like this isn't this isn't the

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:58.040
<v Speaker 1>mat Patricia Offensive. I just don't. I don't know who

0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:01.120
<v Speaker 1>he is consistently, Like I know what he could be.

0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I know what his ceiling is, I know what his

0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:07.040
<v Speaker 1>elite traits are, but what is he like, what is

0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:09.360
<v Speaker 1>he consistently that he's going to develop into an eighty

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:11.840
<v Speaker 1>catch guy in the NFL, Like, what is well, what

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 1>do we have to hang our hats on? Where his explosive?

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 1>His explosiveness is route running? But he's never done it

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:19.920
<v Speaker 1>though he has done it. Well, what did he put

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:22.400
<v Speaker 1>up two years ago? It wasn't like anything crazy? So

0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 1>he's first of all, he's playing a horrible LC. Don't

0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:30.560
<v Speaker 1>don't make the excuse I was playing at He in

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:34.080
<v Speaker 1>six games, so we can double these for a full

0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 1>season of production. Why was the only it was the

0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:38.399
<v Speaker 1>only healthy for six games? Was this the COVID year?

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:40.759
<v Speaker 1>It was the I don't remember why he didn't play

0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:43.160
<v Speaker 1>look it up, but like hypothetically, this is my point.

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:45.880
<v Speaker 1>All right, I'll tell you why, I'll tell you what. No,

0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:48.759
<v Speaker 1>but like I don't, no, not no, he he only

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 1>played six games in the year where they played double

0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:53.880
<v Speaker 1>digit games. He sat because of the drafts. I don't know,

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:56.440
<v Speaker 1>thirty eight catches for five hundred nine yards and nine

0:51:56.480 --> 0:51:59.200
<v Speaker 1>touchdowns exactly. He in nine touchdowns in six games, even

0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:01.759
<v Speaker 1>in the SEC. But that's college like that, that's not

0:52:01.800 --> 0:52:04.759
<v Speaker 1>a SEC. All right, we're gonna go back and forth

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:06.759
<v Speaker 1>on this, all right, Sean and Vancouver, what's up? Sean,

0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:11.400
<v Speaker 1>and I really liked your mock draft. I agree with

0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:17.120
<v Speaker 1>it completely. It's correct, right, Sean. Well, the one thing

0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:20.879
<v Speaker 1>I noticed is the three players that really stood out

0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 1>for me in the Shrine Bowl. Uh, you have two

0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:26.799
<v Speaker 1>of them on this draft of guys from the West

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 1>team that that I really liked. One guy who I

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:32.360
<v Speaker 1>also like, and I want to talk to you about

0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:35.719
<v Speaker 1>this because of Bailey, is Michael Turk. Oh, yeah, I

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:40.200
<v Speaker 1>know you probably Alex. This guy, Michael Hunter. Michael Turk

0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:45.400
<v Speaker 1>loves Alex, Barth loves Yeah. Well, Alex, how do you

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:48.880
<v Speaker 1>feel about him? He the ball explodes off his foot.

0:52:49.120 --> 0:52:51.640
<v Speaker 1>He's very accurate, now, he was, He was incredible. He

0:52:51.800 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 1>was m He kind of reminded me of like rookie

0:52:55.120 --> 0:52:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Jake Bailey, where just when he punts the ball, everybody

0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:00.839
<v Speaker 1>was watching. That's not normally how goes these events? Even

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Bill like when he punched at the ball. Yeah, he

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 1>can ply He's going to be a punch in this

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:09.640
<v Speaker 1>league for a long time. Don't look at his Twitter though. Okay. Now,

0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:12.319
<v Speaker 1>the other thing I want to talk about is free

0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:14.880
<v Speaker 1>because that's going to change the way the Patriots look

0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:17.640
<v Speaker 1>at the draft. And there isn't a lot of wide receiver.

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:20.640
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people say that Jacoby is the number

0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 1>one guy, But someone that I'm looking at really going

0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:26.520
<v Speaker 1>under the radar is DJ Chark. I think he has

0:53:26.640 --> 0:53:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the size and the speed as a deep thread. He

0:53:28.880 --> 0:53:31.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't have as many opportunities with Detroit, but when he

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 1>did he came through. He did get injured, which has

0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:35.719
<v Speaker 1>been a problem with him, but he looked good after

0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the injust so he's healthy. Now, what do you think

0:53:37.560 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 1>of J Chark? Yeah, thanks Sean, thanks for the call.

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 1>And h Yeah, Michael Turk, we both really were impressed

0:53:45.120 --> 0:53:49.239
<v Speaker 1>by him. You mentioned Chark. I still feel like Chark

0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:53.080
<v Speaker 1>is in that tier of receiver that they've had to

0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:55.239
<v Speaker 1>come through here in the last couple of years, like

0:53:55.760 --> 0:54:00.120
<v Speaker 1>Davante Parker, Kendrick Boorne, Nelson Aglor like right, like it.

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:04.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't mind Chark as like a member of your offense, right.

0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:07.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he can't play. I just don't think

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:10.439
<v Speaker 1>he really changes the complexion of anything that you don't

0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:12.919
<v Speaker 1>already have. Like I think he's just redundant in terms

0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:14.960
<v Speaker 1>of skill set or not non terms of skill set,

0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:17.759
<v Speaker 1>in terms of talent level to what you have. Like

0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I think he might bring a little bit of a

0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:21.520
<v Speaker 1>different downfield element than some of these other guys do.

0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:23.880
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. I just feel like from a

0:54:23.960 --> 0:54:26.560
<v Speaker 1>skills a skill level standpoint, he's kind of the same,

0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 1>right Like, I don't think he's a number one. I

0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:31.160
<v Speaker 1>think he's kind of a complimentary guy. They need somebody.

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Like the only receiver interested in paying is the guy

0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 1>who comes in is instantly on top of the depth chart,

0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:38.279
<v Speaker 1>right right, DJ Chark is He's right there with Kendrick Bourne,

0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:40.880
<v Speaker 1>DeVante Parker. By the way, Kay shan boutet in twenty

0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:42.799
<v Speaker 1>twenty one, before he got hurt against the SEC in

0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:46.200
<v Speaker 1>three games before he got hurt, before he got hurt,

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:49.399
<v Speaker 1>and then he got hurt again. This year, he didn't

0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:51.560
<v Speaker 1>get hurt. This year. He was done with that team.

0:54:51.640 --> 0:54:54.360
<v Speaker 1>That team was a mess. How does that make it

0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:59.080
<v Speaker 1>any better? I just just okay, Kay Shuil against the SEC,

0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:01.800
<v Speaker 1>eighteen catches two hundred and eighty five yards three touchdowns

0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:04.680
<v Speaker 1>in three games. Against two games against AP top twenty

0:55:04.680 --> 0:55:07.480
<v Speaker 1>five teams in two games, fourteen catches two hundred yards

0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:11.879
<v Speaker 1>in a touchdown. He's been talented. I don't I've never

0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:17.080
<v Speaker 1>denied that he's incredibly talented, but just off of sheer reps,

0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:20.040
<v Speaker 1>he's not a guy that has a lot of experience.

0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Isn't this what we said about like DK though, And

0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:25.319
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, it is what we said about DK duty

0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 1>And everybody's still so miserable that they didn't make that

0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:31.040
<v Speaker 1>pick round. He was the number one receiver in the class.

0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:32.759
<v Speaker 1>He ka fell to the second round, So okay for

0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:34.480
<v Speaker 1>the receipts to prove that I had him. So here

0:55:34.680 --> 0:55:37.960
<v Speaker 1>just for everybody I know you do. So here's here's

0:55:38.000 --> 0:55:41.560
<v Speaker 1>your shot at redemption. Yeah, we'll get into it more

0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 1>down the road, but my shot at redemption is boote. Yeah.

0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it might be. I think it might be.

0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I reserve the right to change my mind after the

0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:52.680
<v Speaker 1>combine if he wants something bad, but that I am

0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:55.640
<v Speaker 1>standing on Jackson Smith and Jigba. I think that he's

0:55:55.680 --> 0:55:58.359
<v Speaker 1>the guy in this draft that I look at that

0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:01.279
<v Speaker 1>everybody's gonna overthink because they're gonna say, oh, he's not

0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:04.440
<v Speaker 1>that fast, doesn't run that well. I don't think that that.

0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:07.239
<v Speaker 1>I think that Jason is gonna end up being the

0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 1>best receiver out of this. I think you're creating a

0:56:09.080 --> 0:56:11.280
<v Speaker 1>fas I think most people think he's the best receiver

0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:12.840
<v Speaker 1>in this card. I think there's a lot of people

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:16.880
<v Speaker 1>though that don't see him as like that tier one receiver,

0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:19.880
<v Speaker 1>like when you relative to other drafts. Right, I'm not

0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:21.960
<v Speaker 1>talking about that guy's not in the strafts. I don't know.

0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't think he gets passed the first round.

0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I really don't. Does he fall out of the top twenty, Yeah,

0:56:27.160 --> 0:56:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I could see it. I don't think he gets passed

0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the first round. All right, last call here, Eldred, what's up? Hey? So,

0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:39.280
<v Speaker 1>but I don't like your sentiment. Oho that slot receiver. Okay,

0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm with Paul, you can't win that much. And Quentin

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Johnson it's gonna be the steel of the draft. I

0:56:45.840 --> 0:56:48.319
<v Speaker 1>know he's six five, he got speed. He's on the

0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 1>outside because you're gonna need the outside threat. You know,

0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:55.080
<v Speaker 1>if anybody else they didn't side of stuff. It's not

0:56:55.080 --> 0:56:58.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna got on outside. Just get a defense. And like

0:56:58.920 --> 0:57:01.239
<v Speaker 1>you said, like you said earlier in the championship game,

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:08.759
<v Speaker 1>both catches one touchdown. Who do that? Well? I think

0:57:08.760 --> 0:57:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the idea that I the reason why I come at

0:57:12.200 --> 0:57:14.520
<v Speaker 1>it with the inside receivers and where I guess I

0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:17.200
<v Speaker 1>differ with with Paul, who I've heard had this take,

0:57:17.240 --> 0:57:19.120
<v Speaker 1>but I haven't really sat down and talked to him

0:57:19.160 --> 0:57:21.800
<v Speaker 1>about it. I think where I differ is the quarterback, right,

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:25.720
<v Speaker 1>because if Mac Jones is your quarterback, and you're building

0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:29.360
<v Speaker 1>your offense around Mac Jones at quarterback, then drafting the

0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:32.360
<v Speaker 1>outside receiver that you have to throw bombs too down

0:57:32.400 --> 0:57:34.920
<v Speaker 1>the field, Like, is that really the skill set that

0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you want to draft a pair with Mac Jones Like

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Quentin Johnson did Wilson, he did with Williams, he did

0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:47.280
<v Speaker 1>with Yeah, he did it with great players in college,

0:57:47.320 --> 0:57:51.440
<v Speaker 1>but this isn't college. But this isn't like but he

0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:54.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't throw deep though, right, he threw deep at Alabam's

0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:58.520
<v Speaker 1>still a hundred yards Evan. I just I personally think

0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:01.200
<v Speaker 1>that for mac Jones, the middle of the field is

0:58:01.200 --> 0:58:03.560
<v Speaker 1>where I think he's the most comfortable throwing the football

0:58:03.640 --> 0:58:06.000
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. I know what he did it in college,

0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:08.440
<v Speaker 1>like I know what he did at Alabama, but I

0:58:08.480 --> 0:58:10.560
<v Speaker 1>think that he did that in a much different environment.

0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I think here in the NFL he's got to be

0:58:13.120 --> 0:58:15.920
<v Speaker 1>that guy that dominates with the quick release, with the

0:58:15.920 --> 0:58:19.040
<v Speaker 1>accuracy underneath, get the football and guy's hands and let

0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:21.200
<v Speaker 1>him run with it. And I think that's the skill

0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:23.920
<v Speaker 1>set that they have to target. I I look at

0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:27.360
<v Speaker 1>the blueprint that they've had with Brady as a blueprint

0:58:27.360 --> 0:58:30.640
<v Speaker 1>that they should be funny. But he's not. But he's

0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:32.680
<v Speaker 1>not Josh Allen either, Like I just don't think he's

0:58:32.680 --> 0:58:36.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna be thrown by but he's not Brady. You know,

0:58:36.440 --> 0:58:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Brady committed doing that. But I'll with you with DKA

0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:43.560
<v Speaker 1>because doing that draft and what they got Harry, I

0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:45.280
<v Speaker 1>called him a buzz That's one I wanted with DK

0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:48.120
<v Speaker 1>metcam and I was, don't wait before they throw a draft.

0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's the guy. What should get about thought

0:58:50.440 --> 0:58:52.560
<v Speaker 1>he was a one tickton if they know he's not,

0:58:53.000 --> 0:58:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and he proved out he wasn't a one trick pony.

0:58:55.160 --> 0:58:57.360
<v Speaker 1>So so Eldred, I would just asking before he let

0:58:57.360 --> 0:59:00.160
<v Speaker 1>you go. So do you think Quentin Johnston is you

0:59:00.160 --> 0:59:02.840
<v Speaker 1>have him in that same DK category in terms of

0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:08.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody's got him wrong? Is that what what I'm hearing? Yeah, okay,

0:59:08.680 --> 0:59:11.360
<v Speaker 1>that's fair. Thanks for the call, Edward, we appreciate you.

0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's an interesting conversation with Quinton Johnson.

0:59:15.640 --> 0:59:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm so nikkil Harry PDSDD by this situation

0:59:21.400 --> 0:59:23.320
<v Speaker 1>that I just don't know if I can draft another

0:59:23.680 --> 0:59:26.400
<v Speaker 1>six foot four wide receiver early, right, Like, I just

0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:30.840
<v Speaker 1>have so much anxiety over that because of their ability

0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:33.520
<v Speaker 1>to get that guy to translate at the NFL level.

0:59:34.080 --> 0:59:37.040
<v Speaker 1>He's not a route runner like you watch him. Even

0:59:37.080 --> 0:59:39.400
<v Speaker 1>in his good games, he runs an under or a

0:59:39.480 --> 0:59:42.320
<v Speaker 1>slant or something and he's smothered. Right, there's guys all

0:59:42.360 --> 0:59:44.880
<v Speaker 1>over him in man coverage. He's not a great route

0:59:44.960 --> 0:59:48.240
<v Speaker 1>runner underneath the defense. He gets better as he gets

0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:50.600
<v Speaker 1>further down the field. A lot of his wins are

0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:52.240
<v Speaker 1>on verticals, a lot of his wins are at the

0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:55.760
<v Speaker 1>catch point. Like that type of guy. I just don't know.

0:59:56.560 --> 0:59:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Is that what's best for this offensive Bill O'Brien, is

0:59:59.600 --> 1:00:02.040
<v Speaker 1>that what's best for Mac Jones? Like I still come

1:00:02.080 --> 1:00:04.439
<v Speaker 1>back to with Mac Jones that I think that he's

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<v Speaker 1>the best at his best when the ball's coming out quickly,

1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:11.280
<v Speaker 1>he's attacking within twenty yards and he's getting the football

1:00:11.320 --> 1:00:14.360
<v Speaker 1>out over the middle of the field. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I've gravitated towards the inside guys, right, because I think

1:00:17.600 --> 1:00:20.240
<v Speaker 1>you have to if you have a dominate, dominant slot receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you can still win like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think people hear that and they think checkdowns, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's maybe it's what you mean. Like when I look

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<v Speaker 1>at it, I agree at the middle of the field thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But Max said is best in the intermediate yea that

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<v Speaker 1>eight to fifteen yard range. So who are the like

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson is not an intermediate receiver down The best intermediate

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<v Speaker 1>receivers in this draft are in Jigba, Josh Downs, and

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<v Speaker 1>Sea Boute. Yeah, so those are the three guys. And

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<v Speaker 1>like Zay Flywer, I don't even know Zay Flywer's an

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<v Speaker 1>intermediate receiver. He might just be a pure slot. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>he might. He might be like a quick hitter or

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<v Speaker 1>a deep guy like he might be like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in that that those types of those two zones, like

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<v Speaker 1>I think you take the intermediate the field, those those

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<v Speaker 1>are the three guys I look at if like, if

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<v Speaker 1>they want to truly maximize Mac Jones, who are the

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<v Speaker 1>three best receivers for Mac Jones in this class in

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<v Speaker 1>no particular order, in Jigba, Downs, Boute. I also just

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<v Speaker 1>look at you know, he mentioned the teams recently, the

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<v Speaker 1>teams that are still alive, like a team like Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, I know, Patrick Mahomes is totally is a cyborg.

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<v Speaker 1>He's his own thing. I totally understand that. But still,

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<v Speaker 1>their passing game is built around a tight end. It's

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<v Speaker 1>built around Travis Kelsey. Travis Kelsey is not a vertical

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<v Speaker 1>threat in an offense, right like they they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>great outside receivers. They have good outside receivers, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>MVS and those guys are solid outside receivers. But they

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<v Speaker 1>are winning in the passing game with Travis Kelsey over

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<v Speaker 1>the middle, with Travis Kelsey at the short and intermediate levels,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously with Mahomes's magic. So I still think that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a place for an offense to be built inside

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<v Speaker 1>out like that. I don't think it's totally impossible to

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<v Speaker 1>build it that way. I just don't want Mac Jones

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<v Speaker 1>throwing bombs. They tried that this year with him he

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<v Speaker 1>was a turnover machine. It just wasn't It's just not

1:02:00.400 --> 1:02:02.600
<v Speaker 1>what's what he's built for. It's just not. So they

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<v Speaker 1>got to get back to playing to his strength. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think that a downfield receiver plays to

1:02:07.360 --> 1:02:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that strength. All Right, we didn't we didn't get to

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<v Speaker 1>everything we wanted to get to today because Alex has

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<v Speaker 1>got to go host over at ninety eight five tonight, right,

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<v Speaker 1>six to six to ten, ninety eight five Sports. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do some football talk. We're probably gonna be heavy basketball. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>big trade hire. NBA traded all of their second round

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<v Speaker 1>picks today. It was fascinating. Well, well we'll get more

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<v Speaker 1>into a Senior Bowl. We we can do some senior

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<v Speaker 1>like ten minutes, all right, we got ten minutes, ten

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<v Speaker 1>minute all right? Uh, we want to do Senior Bowls

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<v Speaker 1>standouts like who are a couple of guys who mentioned brands?

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<v Speaker 1>We mentioned some guys already that we're Senior Bowl guys

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<v Speaker 1>that Alabama kids were at the Senior Bowls? Stein and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot too. Who else stood out to you in mobile?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I gotta mention my guy to Wan Jones

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<v Speaker 1>again because he's just so good and he was one

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<v Speaker 1>day a practice, practice, one and done. He's solely real.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you another tight end. I really like for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Payne Durham from Purdue. Yeah, I had a good week.

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<v Speaker 1>So first, hang on, I think I got a sneeze. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, all right, Paynt Durham. First off, pro didn't

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<v Speaker 1>play high school football till the senior year. What sport

1:03:03.200 --> 1:03:07.720
<v Speaker 1>did he play? Instead? Lacrosse? Lacrosse player only for he

1:03:07.760 --> 1:03:10.440
<v Speaker 1>played like Pop Warner football. But three years of lacrosse

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<v Speaker 1>Scott and football senior year still got did not walk

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<v Speaker 1>on still in that one year, got a scholarship offer

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<v Speaker 1>to Purdue. Has been developing his game kid a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago. Well, no, what about he was here

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<v Speaker 1>for like a minute. What about who was the guy

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<v Speaker 1>last year that the falcons Um Bernhard? Jared Bernhard? Who

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<v Speaker 1>was that he won the lacrosse highsman and then he

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<v Speaker 1>went played D two quarterback and won a Natty Um. No,

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<v Speaker 1>so pan Durham was. It was a high school acrosse

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<v Speaker 1>player switches to football, gets the scholarship to Purdue. Really

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<v Speaker 1>great size six five, two fifty eight and that's the seat,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the real number, that's the senior number. Um excellent blocker,

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<v Speaker 1>plays with a great motor. But he really came along

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<v Speaker 1>as a receiver this year. He made some great catches

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<v Speaker 1>in that that Big Ten championship game against Michigan. He's

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<v Speaker 1>expected to go way later than I thought, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking He's probably like a fifth sixth round guy should

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<v Speaker 1>like sneak into the top one fifty, not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>outside the top two hundred. A lot of places have

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<v Speaker 1>him sixth round, seventh round undrafted. Even so, maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 1>missing something. I don't know how much you watched of him,

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<v Speaker 1>but you talk about a project player. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how much he helps you in twenty twenty three. But

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<v Speaker 1>you take him in the sixth round. They got what

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<v Speaker 1>four five sixth round picks, You take him in the

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<v Speaker 1>sixth round. You just kind of let him work for

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<v Speaker 1>a year behind the scenes. I think his upside is tremendous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a great inline blocker two, which I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you start to look at what they want at that position,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they would ideally like to get back to

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<v Speaker 1>that a little bit more of somebody that can really

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<v Speaker 1>be an extra tackle, so to speak for you, in

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<v Speaker 1>the run game. I don't know if Johnny Smith and

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter Henry have blocked as well as they were hoping

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to block for them at that position,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that would be something that they would

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<v Speaker 1>really like. You mentioned Dwan Jones just dropped the mic

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<v Speaker 1>first day. I'd senior practices didn't come back, kind of

1:05:01.520 --> 1:05:03.840
<v Speaker 1>like a Zay Flowers. Can I give you my weird

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<v Speaker 1>comp for Duwan Jones. I don't know if I've done

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<v Speaker 1>it on the show. My comfort Duwan Jones in terms

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<v Speaker 1>like as a draft prospect is Tyrek Wolin. He's just

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<v Speaker 1>I think people are gonna what Tariq there was a

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<v Speaker 1>totally different position. Well no, not even the same side

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<v Speaker 1>of the ball. So let me explain. Tariq wool In

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<v Speaker 1>six four two fifteen ran a fourth three like low

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<v Speaker 1>four three forty, and he still went in the fourth round. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think people sort of looked at him in thought,

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<v Speaker 1>it's too good to be true. There's no way he's

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<v Speaker 1>this big, in this athletic and it's gonna play at

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<v Speaker 1>this skill level. And they were just they were almost

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<v Speaker 1>scared off by, like how perfect of a prospect he was.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's gonna be teams. This is why Duan

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<v Speaker 1>Jones initially was projected as a third round pick. I

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<v Speaker 1>think people looked at him and said, he's sixty eight

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<v Speaker 1>three seventy, is an iron man, like doesn't get hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's got to be some catch, and he comes

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<v Speaker 1>out and he shows the footwork and everything. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be team is that just assume there's some

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<v Speaker 1>catch with Dwan Jones and are turned off by him?

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<v Speaker 1>Now does that comp make sense? Like a little bit?

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<v Speaker 1>So with Dwan Jones, I think, what's what could you tell? You?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me why Tariq will And went in the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>round last year. I know he wasn't super experienced, but

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth round six three four two four three two four,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not because I was right about this is your

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<v Speaker 1>dk Metcalf? Yeah, okay, So so that's my comfort Dwan Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dwan Jones, I think what stands out about him

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<v Speaker 1>is so his foot speed isn't isn't great, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>its a bigger guy. So his ability to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pick up his fee, move his fee, change directions, that

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<v Speaker 1>type of stuff is a concern on his projection. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's so long, and it's not just about being big, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the lank ninety in wingspans a record. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>an adult grown crane, like a bird. He's so long

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<v Speaker 1>that he can be he can get you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>can be in the wrong spot, right, he can he

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<v Speaker 1>can be in the wrong spot and still be able

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<v Speaker 1>to punch out with his hand and w and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of buy himself some time to change directions. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>he's somebody that is a little bit different. I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I really liked Darnell right from Tennessee also, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>like sort of in this big right tackle tier for

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<v Speaker 1>me as well for the Patriots and early day towo,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they trade back or trade up in second round whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>What I love so much about Darnell Wright is that

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<v Speaker 1>he was nails against top competition like Will Anderson against Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>against Clemson last year and then in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl in Mobile. He every single time he went

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<v Speaker 1>up against like NFL caliber players, he was excellent. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he was probably the best tackle against Will Anderson

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<v Speaker 1>that Will Anderson maybe ever faced in college. Like he

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<v Speaker 1>totally shut down Will Anderson in that Tennessee Alabama game

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<v Speaker 1>last year. And that's maybe the number one overall pick

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft, right, So that was really impressive about him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should mention two other guys. Tyreek Stevenson

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<v Speaker 1>right from Miami. He had a really good week down there.

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<v Speaker 1>His ability to just basically run the route for the receiver. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's extremely smooth, really good. He had one rep in

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<v Speaker 1>one on ones. I don't think I've ever seen this.

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<v Speaker 1>The quarterback didn't even throw the ball because the receiver

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<v Speaker 1>ran a crosser and Stevenson ran a better crosser to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where if the quarterback threw it, he would

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<v Speaker 1>have just been throwing it to Stevenson as the intended target.

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<v Speaker 1>So the quarterback just ate it because the poor quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to put an interception on film, so he

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<v Speaker 1>just eats it. That is very very rare in one

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<v Speaker 1>on ones because does always favor the receiver. Obviously, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much space it's it's really difficult to defend a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these guys. And he was just excellent all

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<v Speaker 1>week long, and one on ones the last name I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you. We gotta talk a little bit about Tank Dell.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Tank Dell had a good week. He is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a terrified pick for some teams because

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<v Speaker 1>of his size. He's one hundred and sixty five pounds

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<v Speaker 1>and in the NFL that's just too small, Like it

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<v Speaker 1>just is too small. And I think the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that we talk about a lot in the draft is, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>well he'll get into an NFL strength program, and he'll

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<v Speaker 1>just gain twenty pounds overnight. Like this is a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's five eight one sixty five. Like maybe he can

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<v Speaker 1>gain some weight in the margins, but he's not. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a frame that's built to carry more. You

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<v Speaker 1>worry if he puts too much weight on is it

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<v Speaker 1>could impact his speed. Right, But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>the league keeps making less and less legal to hit

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<v Speaker 1>these guys, So you know guys like that are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be more and more able to play in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you two more quick ones as well. On defense,

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<v Speaker 1>Christopher Smith, the safety from Georgia, a true free safety,

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<v Speaker 1>which there aren't a lot of. I thought he had

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<v Speaker 1>a really good week, potential Devin mccordy replacement. And I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta go Bryce Barringer from Michigan State, the hunter. He

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<v Speaker 1>was excellent. I think he had like hang on I

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<v Speaker 1>had to go at the punch average four point five

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<v Speaker 1>second hanging time, Like he said, they're gonna take kicker

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<v Speaker 1>at punter Baronsrew is really good. He's kicked in bad

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<v Speaker 1>weather up in Lancing like he's going to be on

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<v Speaker 1>their board. This offensive line group in Mobile was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>I was raving about it all week. They were excellent

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<v Speaker 1>on both teams. A National and American had great offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>Some other guys that really stood out. Jalen Duncan from

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<v Speaker 1>Maryland is really raw. I think there's some issues with

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<v Speaker 1>his pass sets, but he's super athletic. He's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have any issues getting out to landmarks or cutting off

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<v Speaker 1>the corner. He's just got to work on his technique

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<v Speaker 1>and in his footwork and his pass sets, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be an NFL player. He's got really really

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<v Speaker 1>solid foundational just athleticism in play straight like he's just

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<v Speaker 1>got those two boxes checked, which I think for offensive

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<v Speaker 1>lineman that's certainly the number one thing he got a

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<v Speaker 1>check right, is having those two things. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>there is some love from for Bergeron from Syracuse. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not as in love with him for the Patriots because

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<v Speaker 1>I think he might be a guard, but he's somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that can that can play at the next level, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be an NFL offensive lineman somewhere. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got that type of ability. The one clip that's going

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<v Speaker 1>around about him that he's throwing a guy into the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback and holding at the same time but that's not

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<v Speaker 1>let's not pump that up anymore. That was not a

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<v Speaker 1>good rep. But I think he had some good reps.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to be an NFL player. Um. Lastly,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the last guy I was thinking about? Um, It'll

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<v Speaker 1>come to me in a second, but I'll read Michael Wilson. Yeah,

1:11:27.400 --> 1:11:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Michael Wilson had a really good week. And I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>worried about the injuries with him. He could never stay healthy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's somebody the Patriots take on, you know, in like

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth round, and they bet on the injuries. You

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Boutet like that's their guy, right, is a

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Wilson type. I think that that's possible. Um as well,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of a wide receiver. There's one more tackle

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm blanking on it, but I'll look it up

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<v Speaker 1>really quickly. Is there anybody that that was a dud

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<v Speaker 1>to you? Yeah? I mean it's Andre Carter from Army right, Oh? Yeah,

1:11:55.920 --> 1:11:57.840
<v Speaker 1>all this type about this guy coming in. He had

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen and a half sacks in twenty twenty one and

1:12:00.680 --> 1:12:02.280
<v Speaker 1>had a bit of a down year this year and

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<v Speaker 1>then just really I mean he got owned by Dawan

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<v Speaker 1>Jones like it was bad. Um, I'm gonna get you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about maybe the first top fifty pick from

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<v Speaker 1>a service academy in the modern era. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fringe. Now, we'll see what he does with

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<v Speaker 1>the combine, and I think he will have a very

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<v Speaker 1>good combine. But yeah, he didn't help himself. So the

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<v Speaker 1>one excuse that people were making for him that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't know how accurate this is by sad

1:12:26.479 --> 1:12:29.360
<v Speaker 1>floating around a little bit. Army has some like pretty

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<v Speaker 1>strict height and weight maybe maybe Marine and mackin speed

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<v Speaker 1>to this, Army's got some pretty strict height and weight

1:12:36.400 --> 1:12:39.599
<v Speaker 1>like thing like thresholds. Yeah, and you can't. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>six foot five. So at six foot five, if he

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<v Speaker 1>was like six five three hundred pounds, the Army would say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's overweight, like like that's well, that's why that's why

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<v Speaker 1>they run the speed option because they can't be bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than the other teams. They just happen, right, So he

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<v Speaker 1>had to be at a certain weight. So he was

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<v Speaker 1>only six five, two sixty five, So he's very high

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<v Speaker 1>cut and he's not it doesn't have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>sand in the pants, right, So and mobile. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want Jones was just throwing him out the club, Rob

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<v Speaker 1>Gronkowski style. And I think maybe in the NFL he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be able to pack on the guy that I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>in the pros, Cody Mock. I mean, talke about him,

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I forgot about him. Just excellent. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what a tape, what a guy. I love him, This

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<v Speaker 1>is unbelievable. I hate happen that he's gonna have to

1:13:23.080 --> 1:13:24.840
<v Speaker 1>I hate that he's gonna have to play guard in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL because if he was a true tackle, I

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<v Speaker 1>would be one hundred. And we have spent so much

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<v Speaker 1>time with you just complaining about why are you considering

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<v Speaker 1>drafting a guard? Why are you considering drafting an FCS player? Oh,

1:13:37.000 --> 1:13:39.040
<v Speaker 1>you only like him because his teeth they're missing. You

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<v Speaker 1>only like him because of his hair. We so often

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<v Speaker 1>we did this, and now you're just like all in

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<v Speaker 1>on like the most of me prospect of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>like all of like the offensive line cliches that we

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<v Speaker 1>used to talk about, right like that that is Cody.

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<v Speaker 1>That's him. Who is the center from Wisconsin Whitewater couple

1:14:00.120 --> 1:14:04.519
<v Speaker 1>years ago, you remember mirrors or something like that. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you hated that guy. They come to the

1:14:06.960 --> 1:14:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Senior Bowl, they played at this low level of competition

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<v Speaker 1>at North Dakota State, and he just wants to put

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<v Speaker 1>on a show, right, Like he just he knows that

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<v Speaker 1>he's got to take a big leap up in competition.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like cold Strange last year, and he

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<v Speaker 1>just put on an absolute show. Cody Mock loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>The one tackle that I thought was really disappointing was

1:14:25.520 --> 1:14:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the BYU kid Blake Freeland. Yeah, he had a really

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<v Speaker 1>rough week. He's six foot six and like not in

1:14:33.240 --> 1:14:35.800
<v Speaker 1>a good way. Like his all he carries all of

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<v Speaker 1>his weight above his waist and he just like bends

1:14:40.720 --> 1:14:43.599
<v Speaker 1>at the waist to block people, right, and so he's

1:14:43.600 --> 1:14:46.559
<v Speaker 1>got no flexibility in his lower half. His knees and

1:14:46.560 --> 1:14:49.720
<v Speaker 1>his hips are there's zero flexibility there. So he was

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<v Speaker 1>just getting rag dulled all week. Log it was a

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<v Speaker 1>really really bad week, like to the point where I

1:14:55.040 --> 1:14:57.280
<v Speaker 1>think that he's out of the top one hundred completely.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think you have to wait to day three

1:14:59.439 --> 1:15:02.679
<v Speaker 1>to pick this guy because against the NFL competition and mobile,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really really rough. The last name I will

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<v Speaker 1>mention here, I'm not going to mention a running back

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<v Speaker 1>because then I'll just break Tyreek Spears. Uh No was

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<v Speaker 1>good spirits, one of the best players there. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Ivan Pace from Cincinnati, the linebacker. I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was really good as well. He's a little bit under size.

1:15:23.000 --> 1:15:25.080
<v Speaker 1>He's like kind of a Landing Roberts right, Like he's

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<v Speaker 1>like six one, two hundred and thirty pounds. I think

1:15:27.880 --> 1:15:31.679
<v Speaker 1>Roberts was like six sixty one two thirty five coming out,

1:15:31.720 --> 1:15:35.040
<v Speaker 1>So they're very very similar type of players. Really explosive

1:15:35.120 --> 1:15:39.960
<v Speaker 1>downhill player, like just he absolutely wrecked. I think it

1:15:40.040 --> 1:15:43.799
<v Speaker 1>was um the guy that everybody the interior offensive lineman,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's been raven about that might be a first round pick.

1:15:46.439 --> 1:15:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I got it right here. He just took him on

1:15:49.200 --> 1:15:54.840
<v Speaker 1>in the whole uh Osiris Torn Florida and he hit

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<v Speaker 1>It was like kind of like a butt fumble situation

1:15:56.920 --> 1:16:00.200
<v Speaker 1>where he hit Torn so hard that torn tackle the

1:16:00.280 --> 1:16:02.800
<v Speaker 1>running back for him, Like that was like how much

1:16:02.800 --> 1:16:05.880
<v Speaker 1>of an impact he made. Was really really good in

1:16:06.000 --> 1:16:09.519
<v Speaker 1>blitz drills in practice as well. He's somebody that really

1:16:09.560 --> 1:16:12.120
<v Speaker 1>stood out to me. But yeah, Blake Freeland would be

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<v Speaker 1>on my downs list, and from this week in mobile,

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<v Speaker 1>really watching a lot of the tackles I know we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get today. We got to our senior bull stand.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't talk about Adrian clemm and the coaching staff.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week, hopefully it will be officially announced that he's

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<v Speaker 1>actually coming to the Patriots. Right now, just reported that

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<v Speaker 1>he's coming to the Patriots, So hopefully by next week

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have an official announcement on that. Make sure to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to Alex on the Sports Up tonight from six

1:16:35.880 --> 1:16:38.679
<v Speaker 1>to ten, and we'll be back next week on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>same time, same place for another draft edition, probably very

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