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Speaker 1: Get in touch with technology with text Stuff from dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm Jonathan Strickland,

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Speaker 1: and today I'm going to bring you a classic episode

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Speaker 1: of tech Stuff about professional video gamers. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I'm doing this is because actually the stories evolved quite

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Speaker 1: a bit since Chris Plett and I originally recorded this episode. UH.

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Speaker 1: E sports have become a huge business, whether it's from

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Speaker 1: Twitch streams where people are making money because of subscribers

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Speaker 1: to their program and they've got sponsorships, or if you're

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Speaker 1: talking about gaming tournaments that have actual prizes attached to them.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of money to be made playing video

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Speaker 1: games if you're good enough. According to the website e

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Speaker 1: Sports Earnings, UH, how Chen tops the list of highest earners.

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Speaker 1: This is based off of information that is found on

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Speaker 1: the Internet, so it's quite possible that there are other

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Speaker 1: sources that this site is not familiar with. However, they

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Speaker 1: say that Chen has made nearly one point two million

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Speaker 1: dollars and earnings from playing video games professionally, with the

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Speaker 1: game that has made the lions share of that being

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Speaker 1: Doda too. And that's really kind of why I wanted

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Speaker 1: to do this rerun is first to talk about how

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Speaker 1: things have changed, and one of the things that have

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Speaker 1: changed is this emergence of games that are in the

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Speaker 1: mobile category, and mobile stands for a multiplayer online battle arena.

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Speaker 1: This is a relatively new type of genre. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of a subgenre of real time strategies, but it has

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Speaker 1: E sports was all about really two main genres real

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Speaker 1: real time strategy games or RTS games or first person

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Speaker 1: with those. UH. It involves teams playing against each other,

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Speaker 1: so you have teammates, but each player controls a single

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Speaker 1: character rather than a collection of units. So in a

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Speaker 1: game like Warcraft or StarCraft, you know you're managing lots

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Speaker 1: and engage with other units throughout the game, and this

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Speaker 1: one you're playing a single character. So winning strategies rely

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Speaker 1: on lots of different factors, including a familiarity with the

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Speaker 1: arena layout, which is incredibly important. You need to really

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Speaker 1: be familiar with all the different areas. UH. You also

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Speaker 1: While simultaneously providing a good mixture of skills and abilities.

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Speaker 1: So not only do you have to be really good

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Speaker 1: at working with your teammates, your character's abilities need to

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Speaker 1: compliment at those teammates abilities. Uh, if you have a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of brutes just rushing in and you don't

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Speaker 1: you have a really well balanced team that works well together,

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Speaker 1: you might find it you know that you're just rolling

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Speaker 1: straight through the competition. Teams will often use their own

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Speaker 1: terms in the game to communicate without giving their their

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Speaker 1: plans away to opposition, So you hear a lot of

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Speaker 1: folks kind of develop their own code names for different

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Speaker 1: to know, Hey, we're all going to concentrate on this

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Speaker 1: So I'll really have to do a full episode about

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Speaker 1: an episode of tech Stuff and really talk about mobile's

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Speaker 1: in general and Smite in particular. But today I really

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Speaker 1: wanted to take a look back on that classic episode

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Speaker 1: turns out, it's not all fun and games. It's all

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Speaker 1: the pain and who's gonna make it. I am the game.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to play me? Nice? Thank you. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you don't recognize that, and I'll tell you where

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Speaker 1: our long term listeners who know our propensity for quoting

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Speaker 1: to talk about professional gamers. That's one topic that people

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Speaker 1: and we also have an article on how Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: There's an element of of competition obviously, but it's also

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Speaker 1: they're not really tournaments for this, but yeah. The people

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Speaker 1: personal investment into it as as they would otherwise. It's

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00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: still not easy, but it's possible. So so what do

430
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: you want to What do you do if you want

431
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: to become a professional gamer? I think the simplest you

432
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: got to start out, as you said, with some serious hardware.

433
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're using your two year old PC,

434
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 1: it's not gonna cut it. I mean, yeah, you can

435
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 1: get started, you can, you can learn how to play

436
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: the game. I think that, uh is probably a primary importance,

437
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: really is um you know, if you look at it

438
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: at the manuals for games like this. Then, going on

439
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: my personal experience, when I remember playing Warcraft three a

440
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: few years ago, I never bothered learning the key combinations

441
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: to make my troops form up on one another to

442
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, make squads, And I didn't bother learning about

443
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 1: the bill orders that a lot of people were using.

444
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: So then I'd go on battle dot net our battle Now.

445
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people admit the dot um

446
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: and I you know basically gets laughter. Yeah, And it

447
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: wouldn't take any time at all because for me, I

448
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,239
Speaker 1: like figuring out It's like, okay, so what will I

449
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: do here? Meanwhile, my opponent was sitting there going, Okay,

450
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: I build this, I build this, I build that, I

451
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 1: build that, and I'm ready to go and you're gonna

452
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: go find him and I'm gonna kill him. And that's

453
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: pretty much what happened every single time. Because you have

454
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: to learn the commands, and you have to learn these things,

455
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: you can move very very quickly. Speed is of the

456
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: essence in these games. There's some great videos online that

457
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: show professional gamers using those those key strokes and uh

458
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: and the commands um at a crazy rate. Especially the

459
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: Korean players who are playing StarCraft. They they are particularly

460
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: known for that where they are using a crazy number

461
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: of commands per minute. I mean it's it's it's easily

462
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: more than a command per second. For a lot of

463
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 1: these players where they are are are they've already got

464
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: their strategy before they've even started the game, and they

465
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: just started they just start implementing it as soon as

466
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: the game says go, So it almost becomes a contest

467
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: of not just whose strategy is better than than uh

468
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: who's but who can type the fact or who can

469
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: execute commands the quickest. Um. It's a combination of those two.

470
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, if you don't have the strategy, it

471
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter if you can execute commands more quickly,

472
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: because someone with a better strategy may still be able

473
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: to take you down. You have to have both. But yeah,

474
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 1: the speed at which these players put those commands in

475
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: is pretty frightening in a way. But yeah, you gotta

476
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: you gotta learn all that stuff and practice all that

477
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: stuff and you can start playing things like There are

478
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: a lot of online tournaments now. Online games are always

479
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: going to be a little different from most tournament based

480
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: play because yes, online introduced latency. It also has an

481
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: element where it makes it harder to prevent cheating. Uh.

482
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: There are various modifications out there for games that allow

483
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: players to to cheat. So there are times where you

484
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: may run up against someone who's running that and you know,

485
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: a mediocre player with a cheap program may be able

486
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: to defeat a professional who's playing legitimately um, based depending

487
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: upon what the cheat allows that that mediocre player to do. Now,

488
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: what kind of satisfaction does someone get out of using

489
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: a cheat program to beat someone? I don't understand that

490
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: because that's not really you beating another person, you know.

491
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: But anyway, that's beside the point. I'm sure that you

492
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: know the n and emity that we've talked about that

493
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: goes along with the internet um has something to do

494
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: with it for some people because you can't no one

495
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: would really be able to prove that you didn't do

496
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: it right. So so you want to do things like

497
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: you want to have land parties where you can play

498
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: against other people. You want to make it more realistic.

499
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: You want to look into any sort of local tournaments

500
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: that are being held. Sometimes their tournaments being held by

501
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: companies that are just doing as a promotional event, where

502
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, you might see like Microsoft is holding a

503
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: game tournament nearby, and that it's a game one of

504
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: the games that you're really interested in and that you

505
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: you really know, then by all means you should go

506
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: and enter that tournament. I've actually played in a tournament once. Yeah,

507
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: it was total fluke that I got in and uh

508
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: and I was I was eliminated in the first round,

509
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: but it was really close. I almost got to the

510
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: second round, but my my opponent defeated me. Um, but

511
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: it was literally within the last like thirty seconds of

512
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: play that it came down to, and I was I

513
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: was going to win until the least three second. So

514
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: it just shows that I choke at the end of

515
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 1: the game, kind of like the Braves. So um, yeah, hey,

516
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: you know what, they've broken my heart anyways, not like

517
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: the Thrashers though, oh my gosh. Anyway, that's any discussion.

518
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 1: It's professional sports, not professional gaming. So yeah, you wanna

519
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: compete in these local events as much as possible and

520
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: then start looking into maybe some of the you know,

521
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 1: if if you're actually winning these events, if you're consistently

522
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: doing well, then it might be time to start looking

523
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: at larger tournaments and see if there are any preliminary

524
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: rounds there are within you know, a reasonable distance of

525
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: where you live, and try and enter those as well.

526
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: It might not quite be time for you to book

527
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: a flight to Korea, but you can at least start

528
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: playing on on a higher level and test your skills

529
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 1: out against other professionals. Keep in mind that a breakaway success,

530
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: like a brand new player just entering the video game

531
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: world and taking it by storm is the thing of legend.

532
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: It really does. It happened. Most professional gamers will tell

533
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: you it can take a couple of years of dedicated,

534
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: hardcore practice and tournament play before you start getting to

535
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: a level where you can actually compete. I think though that, um,

536
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: you probably as an actor will agree with me when

537
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: I say that, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't enter

538
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: a tournament and give up, because having even if you

539
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: honestly fail miserably, you get the experience of having an

540
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: opportunity to see what the environment is like and and

541
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: sort of audition in that world. Um, you know, you

542
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,719
Speaker 1: might not you might, and my actor analogy, you might

543
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: not get the part, but you see what a non

544
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: addition is like, and so you can get an idea

545
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: of how people behave at a tournament and what you

546
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: can expect from other people and what the conditions are like.

547
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: So you know, don't go in expecting to win, don't.

548
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you shouldn't try your best, but might

549
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: who knows become that legend it is. It's that it's impossible.

550
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: It's just that it's really improbable, and if nothing else,

551
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: you'll learn, you know, different tricks that you may never

552
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: have thought of for the game and see, like, you know,

553
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: seeing how you were defeated can teach you how to

554
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: play better the next time. And I mean that's really

555
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: what tournament play is all about, is learning all the

556
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: different tricks of the of the maps and the physics

557
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: of the game and the various uh shortcuts you can

558
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: take in order to really get the edge on your opponent.

559
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: And you know, learning that by yourself is is pretty difficult.

560
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: You pretty much have to learn it through experience unless

561
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: you're just you know, some sort of prodigy on video games,

562
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: which you know you could be, who knows, which is

563
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: different from video games on prodigy which no longer. Um,

564
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say that, you know, the best

565
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: part is probably going to be the practice, you know,

566
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: because you that means you have to spend you know,

567
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: two to ten hours a day working on your favorite

568
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: video game, perfecting your moves and your your controls and

569
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,239
Speaker 1: your strategy for winning the game. But um, you can

570
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 1: also use a tournament for an opportunity and just like

571
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: in other types of jobs, with conventions and other get togethers,

572
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: as an opportunity to network with other people who are

573
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: good at what they do. Um, if you can meet

574
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: some other gamers, maybe learn some tips and tricks from them. Uh,

575
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, maybe even get in you know, if you

576
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: get a relationship going with them, perhaps when you're uh

577
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: really good at your craft, you can you can join

578
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: up with their group. Um. That's how how alliances are

579
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: formed in these worlds. And and you know, not all

580
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: of the tournaments are single player versus single players. Sometimes

581
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: their teams and uh, you know, if you can get

582
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: other good players around you, that's an advantage. Yeah. I've

583
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: seen the frag Dolls play in person, and they were

584
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: playing a team base game and uh, in their case,

585
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: they had really um work. You could tell that they

586
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: worked really well as a team together. For one thing

587
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: they had, uh they had code names for different areas

588
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: on the map, which did not immediately give the location

589
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: away to the other teams. So they could tell tell

590
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: each other, I've got Sector A covered, and they know

591
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: what what which sector is Sector A? Because they have

592
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: personally gone through and divided up the map and given

593
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 1: it names. So the other players would say, all right,

594
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: well sector A is covered, I'm gonna go move over

595
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: to Sector B. And uh, you know, meanwhile, their opposing

596
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: team has no idea what these sectors mean where they are.

597
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: They have no clue which areas of the map are

598
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: being covered, which ones aren't, and uh, and they were

599
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: at a real disadvantage. Now, granted, when I was watching it,

600
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: it was at CS and the opposing teams were made

601
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: up of random people who wanted to step up and

602
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: play against the frag dolls. And it was four random

603
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: players versus three frag dolls. And you might think that

604
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: that's an advantage, that the numbers game is an advantage,

605
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: or you might think that, hey, that means the frag

606
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: dolls have one extra target to aim at. How long

607
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: did it take on average? Well, now, the games were

608
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: played out, and I think it was that they were

609
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: played up through a time limit. It wasn't that you're

610
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: killed and you were out. You just keep playing and then.

611
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: But no, the frag dolls would pretty much, you know,

612
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: the number of kills on the frag dolls side versus

613
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: the number of kills on the opponent's side was usually

614
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: around five to one. Ratio was like the frag dolls

615
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: will get five kills to the other teams one kill.

616
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: In general, that's pretty efficient. There were some where you'd

617
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: see the frag dolls really mop up on the on

618
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: the opposing team, and that that was showed the value

619
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: of teamwork. It wasn't just that the frag dolls were

620
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: really good players, which they are. It shows that they

621
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: work in a very well coordinated, organized way. So both

622
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: of those components were very necessary to be able to

623
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: be that leaked. Also, they were quite lovely and they

624
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: still throw like girls. Oh uh, they tossed out T

625
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: shirts to the crowd afterwards. Don't don't insult them, well

626
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: they will pound me. Um. So yeah, I mean the

627
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: professional gaming is kind of an interesting, uh route to take.

628
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: It's it's one that very few people can make work

629
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: just because the odds are really against you. I mean,

630
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: you have to be really good and you have to

631
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: be willing to put in a lot of money and

632
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: time and effort in order to get there. Uh. It

633
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's impossible, it's just really tough. And the economy,

634
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: uh changed in the economy over the last few years

635
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: really cut down on the number of professional gaming events. Yeah,

636
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: there were so many. Couple of years ago, several leagues

637
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: folded and some tournaments ended because they just the sponsorship

638
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: money dried. Up and there was no money for rewards,

639
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: and you know, without that, you don't have the you know,

640
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: the bragging rights only go so far. So a lot

641
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: of these tournaments have have sprung up and collapsed within

642
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: the time frame of professional gaming really getting started. And

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Speaker 1: you know, also you should keep in mind that if

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Speaker 1: Let's say you're really good at Counterstrike, keep in mind

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Speaker 1: that the version of Counterstrike that some tournaments play maybe

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Speaker 1: a moded version that give you different option than the

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Speaker 1: standard version. So that's something else you gotta look at.

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Speaker 1: Is like we were saying, there's not necessarily a standardized

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Speaker 1: you enter a tournament, it may turn out the surprise,

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Speaker 1: because they're running a modified version. Um. You know. It's again,

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Speaker 1: it's one of those things that professional athletes normally don't

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the pole vault and the pole here

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Speaker 1: is eleven inches shorter than what when I've been practicing with.

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Speaker 1: What's up with that? You know, that's usually not going

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Speaker 1: to be the case. But you do have to take

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Speaker 1: into account things like weather conditions and temperature and sure

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah there are other elements that can home

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Speaker 1: field changes. Yeah, so anyway, it's fascinating. It doesn't really

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Speaker 1: mean it's it's um, you know, not something that I

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Speaker 1: think the general populace thinks of is something you could

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Speaker 1: do for a living. And as as you said, it's

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Speaker 1: there are very few people who really can make it work,

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Speaker 1: make it work just because they're not as many opportunities

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Speaker 1: is in that in that realm, But uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's really cool to watch and and to see

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Speaker 1: people at that level play is incredible. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: so much different. Yeah, especially especially if you ever, like

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Speaker 1: I said, go to YouTube and look at some of

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Speaker 1: these tournament videos and you can watch them. Uh the

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Speaker 1: players watch their hands on the keyboard and they never stop.

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Speaker 1: They never it's never like even a pause to think

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Speaker 1: you know, there's this one I saw where it was

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Speaker 1: I think, um, four reporters for some some gaming website

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Speaker 1: three writers got to gang up on the professional gamer,

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Speaker 1: and one by one you'd see the writers say oh no,

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Speaker 1: until find there's just one left. He's like, I'm so

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Speaker 1: And and the pro talk about how many commands he

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Speaker 1: to the Koreans, this is this is still slow, which

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Speaker 1: to me was insane because I thought he was flying.

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Speaker 1: And that concludes this classic episode of tech stuff. I

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Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoyed it. Obviously, we can do a

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Speaker 1: lot of different episodes about professional gaming and where it

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Speaker 1: increased in popularity year over year. I expect that will

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Speaker 1: continue as video games are seen as a legitimate form

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Speaker 1: of competition, just as legitimate as other forms of sports.

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Speaker 1: It's probably gonna take a while longer before your average

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Speaker 1: sports fan considers a video game to be on par

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Speaker 1: with some of the other types of sports they're familiar with.

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Speaker 1: But it truly is the case that it requires a

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Speaker 1: would be able to demonstrate is someone who loves to play,

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Speaker 1: you know, flag football might really enjoy the game. They

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Speaker 1: can't compete in the NFL. Same with video games. I

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Speaker 1: love them. I wouldn't last a second in any competition

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Speaker 1: with a professional gamer, so I think it is important

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Speaker 1: to kind of recognize their skills. Guys, if you have

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Speaker 1: any suggestions for future episodes, maybe there's a topic that

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Speaker 1: to hear and you know, update that, to revisit it,

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