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Speaker 1: Douglas. We alluded several times in the past few weeks

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Speaker 1: free agents or whether it's veterans who want to resign.

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Speaker 1: And Roy Robertson Herris looks like an example of that

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Speaker 1: and everything. What does what does it say about what

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Speaker 1: you guys have been trying to build that guys like

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Speaker 1: him want to come back? And then what does Roy

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Speaker 1: bring to this team that maybe goes beyond stats?

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Speaker 2: I think really what goes beyond stats is he's a

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Speaker 2: guy that wants to be here. He does it the

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Speaker 2: right way, and he's a leader. He's a guy that

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Speaker 2: you watch on the film. He's running to the ball,

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Speaker 2: he plays physical, he plays big for us. He helped

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Speaker 2: us out and pass rest of last year was the

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Speaker 2: end of the year. And he's this guy that's loved

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Speaker 2: to play ball and that's just spread amongst the team.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna see a lot of you.

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Speaker 4: I'm going the growth have you seen from Devin Lloyd

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Speaker 4: as he gets ready for the second year. I know

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Speaker 4: last year he was kind of splashed and then slowed down.

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Speaker 4: Hit that kind of rookie wall.

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Speaker 2: He's in a good spot. He really is mentally physically,

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Speaker 2: and you can just see he's playing faster, he recognizes things,

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Speaker 2: and from a first year linebacker to a second year linebacker,

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Speaker 2: you can see the progression he's making. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm excited for him. He's excited to ready to get

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Speaker 4: Talked about potentially using Devin as a pass rusher this season.

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Speaker 3: I mean, how much of that have you guys actually

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Speaker 2: I guess, well, really, Devin, Devin's the inside linebacker, and

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Speaker 2: inside linebackers typically blitz, so when you line him up

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Speaker 2: on the end of the line, which we have, we've

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Speaker 2: lined him up there, that's really not there, Forte, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But we need to give him

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Speaker 2: more opportunities to blitz, which he did last year, and

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Speaker 2: we'll just continue to do that. He has a unique

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Speaker 2: skill set where he can rust the quarterback, but it's

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Speaker 2: typically against running backs, possibly a tight end, but that's

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Speaker 2: the type of matchups we want to get him in too.

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Speaker 2: But offensive linemen, you know, that's other people there is

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Speaker 3: Straight on Walker improved his hot st rush technique.

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Speaker 2: You can see their growth last year was I know

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Speaker 2: you heard this. Last year was a learning year for him,

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Speaker 2: learned how to pass for us. Now he's to the

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Speaker 2: point where he understands what he likes to do. I

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Speaker 2: call it his superpower, you know, And I tell him

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Speaker 2: all the time, use your superpower, and he has it

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Speaker 2: and he's working on doing that. And you know, he's

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Speaker 2: a guy that's always going to work hard and he's

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Speaker 2: always gonna give you what you asked of him, and

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Speaker 2: were just excited for.

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Speaker 3: Him this year. Just talking about Trayvon and Devin a

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Speaker 3: little bit. How much do you think people talk about

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Speaker 3: and you obviously know if I'm playing in the league,

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Speaker 3: they talk about the rookie year being the longest year

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Speaker 3: of your life. How you know, you're playing in a

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden you have to play a sixteen

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Speaker 3: two it was maybe they hit a rookie wall of

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Speaker 2: Really, there is ricky wall. You can't say there's not,

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Speaker 2: but I think coach Peterson did a good job of

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Speaker 2: But they just talking. Talking to those two especially, they

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Speaker 4: You've seen a lot of linebackers. What is it about

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Speaker 4: Ventro Miller that you guys really wanted him here in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: It was that room. I think there's a there's a

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Speaker 3: Talked about the depth and the secondary. You guys resigned Dewey,

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Speaker 3: talked about this a lot last year, just the natural

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Speaker 3: progression of the NFL to more of I don't want

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Speaker 3: to use the term seven on seven, but knowing it's

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Speaker 3: a passing league, knowing you need to have as many

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Speaker 2: Pass, that's right. You have to have cornerbacks, you have

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Speaker 2: There's a bunch of death back there. So we're just

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Speaker 2: But that's a good problem to have. Could we have

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Speaker 3: As a linebacker, is it sad to see the rise

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Speaker 2: And it's really not sad when you look at it.

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Speaker 2: It's like the quarterback. They're the guy there that everyone trusts.

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Speaker 2: The guys will look to a safety, but everyone trusts

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Speaker 4: Calling the defense?

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Speaker 2: Well, the coach. You go back and you look at everything.

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Speaker 5: Why do you think, why do you think the pass

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Speaker 5: How much of it was maybe playing with a lead

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Speaker 2: I think like towards the end of the season, Trey Herndon,

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Speaker 2: He played a nickel role and certain games you didn't

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Speaker 4: What's the competition like at that Nickels spot? Is anybody

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Speaker 2: Well, everybody is right now. Everybody has a clean slate

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Speaker 2: We have some talent there. They're still learning their way

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Speaker 1: You see looking skill set, just how unique it is

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Speaker 2: I think when you look at you see her, it's

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Speaker 2: Typically you go and everybody wants a six ' five,

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Speaker 2: two hundred sixty five pounds outside linebacker. That doesn't work

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Speaker 2: for everybody, right, Some guys are six two two thirty six.

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Speaker 2: So there's multiple ways to do it. And once you

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Speaker 2: You're tough getting the run game, and then you're slipper

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Speaker 3: If you could take us kind of behind the curtain

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Speaker 3: your Seers recruitment, if you met going through the draft process,

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Speaker 3: different change of pace as a rusher.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. As a staff, we get together

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Speaker 2: kind of looked at it. What do we need? And

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Speaker 2: you hear it all the time of change of pace.

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Speaker 2: So we have Trayvon, we had Josh kay Levon, we

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Speaker 2: we had bigger rushers. So I was always harping on,

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Speaker 2: let's get somebody fastball, fastball, and you see, here's that

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Speaker 2: you're also just throwing a different pitch to the offense.

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Speaker 4: You didn't get much of a look at George Smith

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Speaker 4: before he got hurt. No, ta's last year. What if

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Speaker 4: you thought about him on the field this.

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Speaker 2: Year with Jordan right now, he's another one that position

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Speaker 2: had a bunch of depth. Coach Shuey, Coach Buckner there

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Speaker 2: molding those guys into what we want. And Jordan's another one.

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Speaker 2: He's tall, he's long, he's athletic, so we just want

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Speaker 2: him to get back healthy and see what he can

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Speaker 2: do out there.

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Speaker 4: When you look at some of those young guys and

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Speaker 4: you kind of see some of the tools start to

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Speaker 4: come together. When people keep suggesting maybe the Jags go

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Speaker 4: after a veteran pass rusher, do you look at it

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Speaker 4: and say, well, if we do that, then we take

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Speaker 4: away this opportunity from some of these young players who

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Speaker 4: could grow to be really good players.

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Speaker 2: You always want to have options, and the more guys

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Speaker 2: we have, the more options we have, the better chance

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Speaker 2: we have to put the best guys out there. And

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Speaker 2: whether it's an old guy, a new guy, whoever's here,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get him in here. We're gonna coach him

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Speaker 2: up the best we can and roll them out there.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna play like Jags. And that's that's how we

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Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: If we go get a veteran guy, fine, if we

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Speaker 2: don't find whatever we have here, that's what we're gonna

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Speaker 2: work with.

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Speaker 3: You have you had any contact with Josh Allen? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, talk to Josh, text back and forth. But

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Speaker 2: Josh is in a good place. He's working hard. He

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Speaker 2: talks to coach shoe. He talks to myself, coach Buckner,

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Speaker 2: so we understand where he's at now. We'd love him

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Speaker 2: to be here, but again it's voluntary and Josh is

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Speaker 2: a good worker, so we know he's putting in the work.

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Speaker 4: Cool.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, appreciate, thank you,