WEBVTT - Freddie and Jeff’s Top Wrestling Rivalries 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:08.879 Now your main events introducing the hosts are Wrestling with Freddy, 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:13.320 Jeff Died, hand of Freddy Friends, Junior. 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:16.120 What's up? 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:16.640 Everybody? 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.920 Welcome to a brand new episode of Wrestling with Friends. 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.360 Wrestling with Freddy, but it's friends today because I have 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.680 my co host, greatest co host in the world, mister 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:28.840 Jeff Dye. How are you today, sir? 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:29.600 Feeling good? 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:29.880 Buddy? 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:34.599 Are you feeling I'm feeling pretty good, looking strong, Thanks man, 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.120 Let me flex right, bind bo, Sir. 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:39.839 A lot of times I might hear an idea in 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:42.479 the moment that's awesome, and then the next day or 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:44.559 I'll write something down late at night I'm like, this 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.040 is the best movie idea ever. In the next morning 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.120 I'll read it and be like, this is the worst 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.680 piece of shit I've ever written. But I still think 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:56.280 the Medieval's Jester is a wonderful idea. However, I also 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.320 love Santina Morella, so you never you never know, you 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:02.080 never know, But I think Medieval Times is a winner. 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:03.680 And then you wouldn't have to leave town as much. 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:04.480 You could just work here. 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.440 Yeah, I could live at Medieval Times. Although Buena Park 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:09.039 is not close from where I live. I don't want 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:10.680 to say my exact address. But when I was going 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:12.880 to Medieval Times, I was like, all right, i'll get there. 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:14.520 I'll probably leave like I have to leave like an hour. 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.360 You know, everything's like an hour in la. I put 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.800 in those two hours and thirty five minutes, and I 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.120 was like, all right, because I'm leaving now at three 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:23.120 o'clock in the afternoon. 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:28.760 All right, so well you just relocate to Buyna Park 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.680 bro this week, y'all, we're going to take things back. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:35.000 I did a show for A and E called w 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:40.360 WE Rivalries, Yes, and it was a wonderful experience. I 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.679 really enjoyed doing it, and I love getting to hang 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:45.720 out with some of the old school and new school 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:47.960 wrestlers and get their takes on things. And we thought 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:53.000 we would do an episode dedicated to rivalries ladies and gentlemen. 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.120 So we're gonna give you I'm not saying they're the best, 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.360 but I'm going to say they're the most well known. 0:01:58.400 --> 0:01:59.920 We're not going to have time to probably get to 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:03.160 every single rivalry in the world, but here we go. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:05.000 I have one on the list that didn't make it, 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.240 which I'm surprised, but go ahead. Yeah, well then. 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.040 We should do that one second to make sure that 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.160 we get it. I want to start with the one 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.720 that I always thought was the funniest one, and that's 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.080 why I think you'll like it too. As during the 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:22.720 Attitude era, which I know you love, it's the Rock 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:28.000 versus Stone Cold Steve Austin and the rivalry they I 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.800 know you love these guys. I know you love this era. 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:33.959 Some of the stuff they did to me was way 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:39.680 beyond the line of reality, but somehow, as long as 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.840 they're cool with me laughing at some of the stuff, 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.120 then it's then it all worked. And I feel like 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.359 they would be because they were taking the piss, as 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.560 the British would say, out of themselves for most of this. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.120 I love the storyline, but I want to start with 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.320 you because this is your younger than me, and this 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:58.200 is your generation's golden era of wrestling and by far, 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.560 by any marker, the most successful financial period in the 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.560 history of wrestling, and there will never be well except 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.320 they just sold for a bazillion dollars, it'll never happen again, 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:09.320 so I'm already wrong. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.880 Take it away, sir, I would say the Rock Versus 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.960 or the Rock versus Stone Clost t Boston rivalry was 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.840 like your two best friends fighting. You're like, god, I 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.040 love Stone Colk and then the Rock goes go, God, 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.000 I love the Rock. Like it was so most of 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.520 these feuds, I can pick who I was rooting for 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.120 and it would rile you up, you know, because you're like, gosh, 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.919 I hate John c n R. Or I hate Sam 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.440 Punk or whatever. When you have literally two of the 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:40.360 most popular guys of that time, arguably ever, going back 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.680 and forth and the cut from a different cloth. You know, 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.000 the Rock came from the Nation of Domination. That's like 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.360 the All Black Stable. That's like we've had enough, we're angry, 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.320 and we're we're gonna show you how good we are wrestling. 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:52.840 And you've got this kind of like white trash Beard 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:56.840 drinking Rattlesnake that flips everyone off, and it's always referencing 0:03:56.880 --> 0:04:02.000 Texas and it's just the two cool guys of both sides. 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.040 I really, really, really loved every single time. I never 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.600 cared who won. I never cared who lost because I 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:09.880 just liked both of them so much. Like you said, 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.720 they did crazy things like with the beer, and there 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:14.680 was like sometimes it looked like they became friends and 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:16.400 then they get stone cold. I mean there was just 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.839 so he gets stunned, But so I really really. 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.320 Till the greatest, the greatest cell ever of a stunner 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.720 is the rock. Nobody ever sold it, that could ever again. 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.440 When I met stone Cold, I've only met him once. Ever, 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:30.960 he goes, who do you think took the stunner the best? 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:33.600 And I go, I think Vince McMahon took it the best. 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:35.440 He goes, well, I disagree with the young man. I 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:36.880 think he's the worst that's ever taken it. 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.240 He goes, I would agree with that, and he goes, 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.240 who's the Who's the worst that ever take it? And 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.560 I go the rock and he goes, I'm gonna disagree 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.520 with you again. We're off to a bad start. He goes, 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:49.080 the rock took it the best. We agree, guy, you 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:50.320 gotta trust your boy. 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:52.560 Man. I was the stone cold or like two peas 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:53.040 in a pot. 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.400 I had it reversed because like when Vince got done, 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.120 it looked like he died. And so that's the only 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.920 reason I said that, because he almost did. And when 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.479 a rocket stunn he's bouncing around and flopping around like 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.520 a like a fish in the ring, which is funny, 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.080 and that's why that's why everyone liked it. It was very, 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.359 very good. I just remember being a teenager being like, 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.400 oh gosh, he's making it look fake, and it's like 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.000 I didn't I didn't have my wrestler. 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.280 Yeah, totally, But that's why I loved it, because it 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:17.360 was so over dramatic. 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:22.720 That rivalry was really really, really, really incredible. I liked 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:23.520 it very much. 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:30.000 There was more cursing on television during this rivalry, just 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:34.320 in this rivalry than on any other network television show 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:39.840 in the history of television combined. There is more son 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:44.400 of a Bitch, I'll beat your ass, ye there is, 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:50.360 There is more of There is more cursing than any NBC, CBS, 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:55.839 ABC show combined. Now, the Sopranos, I have him beat, right, 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.240 episodes of Boardwalk Empire what I had him beat. I 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.240 don't know if they curse Game of Thrones. I never 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.880 saw that, but I bet if they did, they might 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.240 be able to beat him. But that's cable and streaming services. 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:12.039 There's no rules. This was on national TV, and you 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:16.239 would hear people legit, just constant you son of a bitch, 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:17.400 I'll beat your ass. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.599 You're going down something bitch, like I heard that every 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.280 word or every sentence came out of Stone Cold's mouth. 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:28.160 I know these matches have all been reviewed a million times, 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.840 and so I'd like to talk more about, at least 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.520 on my side, the content they were putting out. But 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:39.039 I do remember one story that Brian Gowertz told me 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.440 when I worked there that I'm sure he'd be fine 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.400 with me sharing and if not, then I'll apologize, but 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:47.320 it's nothing bad. He was the voice behind the Rock. 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.160 Brian Gowertz, who was this? He was a sitcom writer 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.600 from Hollywood who was just a huge wrestling fan, went 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:56.240 out there and a sitcom writer. Quickly became the best 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.880 writer they had because he was a professional writer. He 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.159 wasn't just a fan of wrestling. He knew how to 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:04.000 construct stories, and so he gets there and he had 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:05.440 to work his way up. It's not like he was 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.440 the head writer right away. The Rock kind of made him, 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.640 didn't kind of but made him. But he was the 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.080 one writing all those great promos. The Rock says this. 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.400 The Rock says that, like he was the one writing 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.120 all this great you know, take you down the Jabbroni 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.320 Avenue to the You Suck Hotel, and you know all 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:27.760 that pop pools. So they're working on this big promo 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.160 before the Stone, before one of the Stone called Steve 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.280 Austin matches. I wish I could remember which one and 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.800 give you better context, but they've been sitting there that 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:37.760 you know, they couldn't find the words, and so they're 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.600 now they're working together backstage and you know, just trying 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:43.760 to make it perfect, and Stone Cold blocks up just 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.320 he's trying to be funny, but in a dick way 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.280 of being funny, walks Bay. He goes, I don't know 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.040 why you're working so hard. You're just losing the goddamn 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.480 match anyway, and just walks out of the room and 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.040 they're both like, bro, what they come on, man, We're 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.360 just trying to get our jobs done. So it was 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:03.400 cool to know that these two guys were cool like 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.240 that in order to pull off this type of a match, 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.520 because there's other rivalries we'll get into where the guys 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.000 are cool, but when you have two people that respect 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:15.280 each other enough to oversell his finisher at the level 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.800 he overseells it, which at thirteen you were god, makes 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.640 it look fake. But still he was trying to show 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:25.360 respect for sure, and to see Stone Cold be able 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:28.680 to praise Dwayne the Rock Johnson as he does to 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:30.920 this day. Lets you know that both men were in 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:35.120 it together, and that's when you get the best stuff both. 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.040 You know, both guys were trying to do business. Brett 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.480 Hart and Sean Michaels, which I want to get into next, 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:44.520 could have lasted forever, but bad business was done, so 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:48.439 it had to end. And that just makes these types 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.800 of rivalries that much more special. But to throwing the 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.000 titles in the river and throwing each other in the 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.280 river and all the shes so good, there's just said 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.120 so much Cursey did. They were just like, Yo, you 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.360 can say anything, but fuck. You can say any word 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.720 on earth, you just can't say an F bob. And 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.439 they're like, cool, let's go to town because yeah, I'm 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.600 gonna want to watch that. Everybody wants to see people 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:10.360 break the rules. 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.280 They're like, let them, let them, let them rip, We'll 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.360 pay the fines. Who cares. This is a good TV. 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.120 We're getting a lot of ratings with Stone Golden Rock. 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:21.040 I feel like there was an out that if something's 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:25.560 caught on a camera mic, the fine was Nolan void? Really, 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:29.520 if I believe there was a clause in that that 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.599 if it was a camera mic, because that's out the 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.320 defense was and these are things that are collectively burgained. 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.280 I believe I believe that if it's caught on a 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:44.640 camera mic, it's okay, because that's how professional sports franchises 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.360 get out of that when, like you hear now, they 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.720 try to bleep it when they can, and that's why 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.600 they put in that seven second delay. But I do 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:53.280 believe there was something in there because like YO, we 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.760 can't be held accountable for what you know, the fans 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.080 are saying and things like that, and I believe WWE 0:09:58.120 --> 0:09:59.840 has used that clause before to get out of that. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:11.839 Sean Michaels versus Brett Hard, This to me should have 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:12.800 been a three. 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.040 Hour episode of WWE Rivals, so. 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.280 This could have gone on forever. For me, it's the 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:22.800 most talked about moment in professional wrestling, probably because it 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.120 was real and it happened. Former guest of the show 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.840 Ariel Helwani was actually there in the crowd when it happened, 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:33.800 which is worthy of all my jealousy. But these two 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:37.040 guys didn't like each other at all. And for those 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.680 of you who aren't like the hardcore wrestling fans, but 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.280 you tune in just for the sounds of Jeff's and 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:47.720 my voice. This was real stuff. The guys hated one another, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:51.160 they had been in a fight backstage. Shawn Michaels was 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.560 not the good guy in this. He was the bad 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.080 guy in this. And he's talked about this publicly, so 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:00.480 it's not spilling salt on somebody's wounds, but he was. 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.120 His ego is out of control. You know. There was 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.320 drug abuse, all kinds of things like that, and it was, 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.840 you know, leading to a specific type of behavior that 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.880 Brett Hart just wasn't about. He's such an old school 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.840 guy and he was all about respect and doing things 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:20.040 the right way. And Sean didn't care. He was going 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:24.280 to be the guy. And that was the foundation that 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.959 this real life rivalry was set upon. And then they 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.720 have to go tell a story in the friggin ring. Jeff, 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.320 where does this rate for you as far as as 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:35.400 far as like rivalries in the in the whole list 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.240 of all the rivalries. 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.520 It's obviously up there. It's obviously one of the best. 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.280 It's undeniably the best, even if you don't like either 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.800 of those wrestlers, because it was personal. You could tell 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.440 it was personal as a viewer and also if you like, 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.600 if you're the kind of kid, which I was occasionally like, 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.040 oh this is real, Oh that was real, like that 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:57.240 this is the rivalry for you. Because even back then, 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:00.560 before like the internet was what it is today, you 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.920 knew there were somehow. I was aware that Shawn Michaels 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.560 was hated in the locker room, and I know that 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.440 Brett Hart was respected. But also Brett is a grump. 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.640 Bread is a pretty grumpy guy. Like Razor Ramone and 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.520 him are going back and forth on a promo and 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:18.400 Razor Ramone almost comes off like the more likable one, 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:24.360 and Razor is the bad guy the self pro He 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.319 was like I'm gonna chop you up with my mucheese 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.240 mode like he's literally And then they go to Brett 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.920 and Brett's like I've always worked hard, I've always and 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:36.000 you're like, that's the good guy. There's no smile, there's 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:37.880 no like an it like it's just we just were 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.559 understood that that's the good guy. He wears the pink 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.320 in the black. He comes from this family's fundamental. He 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.640 does the he does all the like the most technical 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.160 work in the ring. It felt real and it was 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.360 real at times and very personal. And then with the 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.760 big obviously the big Montreal screwjob, which is still talked 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.880 about because it was real. Yeah, it's up there. It's 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:57.959 not my favorite. I was never a Shawn Michael's guy 0:12:57.960 --> 0:12:59.400 and I was never a Bret Hart guy. And it's 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.040 not that I didn't like them. I was a teenager. 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.240 When you're a little boy, you don't want a roof 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:08.080 for the guy coming out like I'm a sexy bully boy. 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:11.120 I'm like, when is the Undertaker gonna come in here 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:14.800 and choke slam? This dwinked? You know, So wasn't really 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.920 my guys. But I also, as an adult, can recognize 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.440 how dope both of those wrestlers were and also how 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.360 cool you know now that I'm a grown man and 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.839 more reasonable. Sean Michaels was one of the goats for sure. 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.679 Yeah, yeah, I think most people put him top. 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.760 Top Behaviorally, he was a mess. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.800 I heard, yeah, but that's I mean, that's public knowledge now, 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.320 So don't get don't get mad at us for saying things. 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.720 And we're not poor and salt. We're just explaining the story. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:42.040 And for those of you who don't know what the 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:44.560 screw job is. Again, I know we have some listeners 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:48.079 that aren't wrestling fans. This was like the worst business 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.720 you could do on someone. Imagine working for your boss, 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.800 doing a great job. Your boss gives you a raise 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:56.520 a few months into the race, says, hey, I can't 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:00.160 afford that raise anymore? Can we go back to your 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.520 original salary? You'd already be insulted. 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:03.560 Oh yeah. 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.600 Then you get an offer from another company. You say, okay, well, 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:08.600 then this offers better. Do you mind if I go 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.520 there and your bosses? Now, that's okay? But when you leave? 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.000 Are you cool? If the person who's going to take 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.679 your office humiliates you in front of everybody, and you 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.600 going like, yo, how many more things do I have 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:21.480 to do? Man? 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:23.560 Also, don't worry, We're not going to do that. And 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.560 then they just do that to surprise you. Yeah, and 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:26.200 you're like, wait, wit what? 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.040 Yeah? You say I'm not comfortable with that, and they 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.200 say okay. And then on your last day of work, 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.080 you cool it just comes in and takes a shit 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.760 on your desk and says, do something about it, bitch, 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.240 and you just have to take it and get thrown 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.280 out by security, and you're like, he shot on my desk. 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:43.480 I wasn't the one doing it. 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:44.880 I thought we were going to do this. I was 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.120 told we're not going to do this. They said, that's 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.160 what that's that's what happened to Brett Hart. So put 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.320 yourself in his shoes. You might be a little grumpy. 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:54.760 Although he did have grumpiness before then, I'll give you that. 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.800 His whole career, he seemed grumpy and talk about listen 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.000 to him an inn of your interview. Now he's still pretty grumpy. 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.840 I still love him. I don't care. Sunglasses were cool, 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.080 all right, dude. I want to make sure you get 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.560 yours in here because it's a big list. So what's 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.480 your rivalry that didn't make the list? Producer Alex? You 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:12.560 should be ashamed of yourself. 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.720 No, don't say that about Producer Alex doing the lord's work. 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.440 But my think my one of my favorite ones, or 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:21.360 made me the most memorable. And this could just be 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.040 my age, it could just be my interest in wrestling 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:28.080 that is a little uniquer than others. Caine and Undertaker. 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.000 When I always liked Kane, all right, sorry, I always 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.480 liked Undertaker. Everyone did he was one of the only 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.600 characters that could still live on in kind of like 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:38.920 this fantasy is like a dead wizard while all the 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:40.920 other wrestlers are kind of going into an era where 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.280 it's like just their names and like we don't really 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.840 have a shtick, you know, like we're done with the 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.440 whole cop thing and the Indian thing and the clown thing. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.080 Like Undertakers transcended it. He was still able to like 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.680 the cop me too. I loved all that stuff, but 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.960 wrestling seemed to be going past that, like they started 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.640 to do this other thing. Undertakers still lived on, you know, 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.480 He's still lived on as far as like he was 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:05.960 able to go into the next era as this character. 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:10.640 So when they introduced an equally preposterous character that was 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:15.160 Undertaker's twin brother back who thought he was always dead. 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:16.840 Orn't know if it was twin brother, but it was 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.720 his brother who he was brother thought died in a 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:23.240 fire that Undertaker started, and he it was like Undertaker's 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.240 secret past, and Paul Hayman was really aware of it, 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.280 you know, and the way he played all sides is 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.440 so good. I just thought that River was so fun 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.360 to watch every single week. I was I was invested 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.280 and and Cain lived on to be one of the 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:39.640 greatest wrestlers ever because of that start. So that was 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:40.680 probably one of my favorites. 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:46.920 Yeah, I mean we did Caana and Taker on R. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:50.040 it it meant a lot to that, not just to you, 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:53.120 to a lot of people. It was just it was 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.680 an old school story for the time in a new 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:00.280 school world, and it made it stand out and it 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.080 had I feel like that helped it resonate with the 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:07.199 older generation that wasn't getting the cops and the irs, 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.960 text guys like all those kind of characters anymore. And 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:15.280 they were sort of the last two attractions in wrestling, right, 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:19.240 like where it's not the pro wrestler, it's the gimmick 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.639 and the image they portray. We know, nobody can make 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:25.040 fire come out of the turnbuckles, but this guy still does, 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.520 even though we know it's a pyro guy underneath pressing 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:27.880 a button. 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:28.400 But it's cool. 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:32.080 So they both held something special. But again, it was 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.560 the story thing that made it work. Otherwise it's just 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.719 two big guys as big he would say, meaty men 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:43.560 slapping meat, and you have to care about the meat 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.239 if you want to watch it. Slap people. And in 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.240 order to do that, you have to have a story 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.040 that means something. And the story back then was like 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.320 you said, he had a brother that he thought was 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.520 dead and here he comes. Oh shit. And the great 0:17:56.560 --> 0:18:01.960 thing about that rivalry was post rivalry, it turns in 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.280 to a tag team. Yeah, and they become the Brothers 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.840 of Destruction, and so it goes from hate back to love. Right, 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.320 so there had to be forgiveness in there somewhere. But 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.920 when they became the Brothers of Destruction, I liked them 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.679 even more. And I already liked both guys, but I 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.000 was like, oh, the Brothers are Destruction. No, there's not 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.400 a tag team, and the Demolition can't beat them. No way, 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.600 there's not a tag team because they're not as tough. 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.480 The hardies can't beat them. They'll get snapped. Like nobody 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:28.600 was gonna beat the Brothers of Destruction. I loved them 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:30.359 as a tag team, so yeah, they you're right, they 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:31.040 should have been on them. 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.520 They also looked cool like that, Like they looked like 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.720 they're like a Halloween costume. Try to dress like a 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.880 lot of wrestlers on Halloween. It's tough, but like when 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.520 you see someone dressed up as Undertaker and or Caine. 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:44.480 You go, I know exactly what they are. I know 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.240 exactly what that is, and it's a full It's like 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:49.200 a full thing. So I loved their look. 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.600 There are a ton for us to get to and 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:03.680 trying to get a little more, a little bit into 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:07.720 the later modern era before we run out of time. 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:09.840 But I'm happy to do a different one if you 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.800 don't want to, would you like to do cmpunk John Cena? 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:14.720 Or do you want to jump into someone else that 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.359 tickles your fancy a bit more? That one? All right? 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.720 I think this one is relevant because CM punk is 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:24.960 arguably top man right on the microphone as as far 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:28.439