WEBVTT - Episode 177 w/ Paul Wall 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.520 And it's drinks, motherfucking podcast Mason. He's a legendary queen's 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:18.640 rapper and he's agree is your boy in o R. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:22.680 He's a Miami hippop pioneer. Up is d j e FN. 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.200 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:30.319 players in the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:34.240 one sorts for drunk drink every day is New Year's 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:45.200 Less time for drink Champs, drink up for the would 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:46.800 it good? Be hoping he would it should be? This 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:48.800 is your boy in O R? What up is d 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.600 J e F And this is drink Champs? Yap Yapa 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:59.680 makes up. When it comes to Mr Texas, Mr Houston, 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:04.160 it's the sideways, the people's chance. The brother has been 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:06.840 out here stopping doing what he gotta do, not on 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.520 the other culture, but he even married into the coature. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.959 God damnit, he's done what he gotta do, been been 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.039 been been out here from switching house from him, his 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.559 his tastes for a millionaire and to nowadays is still 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:21.640 out here, still doing what the hell they gotta do. 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.199 If you had to get ice out in your mouth, 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:28.480 you had to go see him. Your mother flippers in 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:30.600 case you don't know to flip. I'm talking about my 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:38.160 motherfuck game now, Paul, I want to. I want to 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.080 start from the beginning, because, um, other than bumbye, this 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:48.360 is our second in Houston rapper correct believe. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.840 we had Scarface, but I got him sick at fucking 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.240 my food show. I had to because I was filling 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:56.480 my food show. And then he's supposed to do drink 0:01:56.560 --> 0:02:00.200 Chaps that night, and I brung him to a restaurant. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.360 You know, it's funny as hell because he kept going 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.440 to think annoys like that, so you know, scar Face 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:07.760 is funny. So I thinking scar Face is making fun 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:09.720 of me and Ship the whole time. This motherfucker's really 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.880 get second. But anyway, I want to so, um, I 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.799 want to take it from the beginning because obviously all 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:19.640 of y'all are from this like the switcher House movement, right, 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:22.880 So in the beginning, because um, I heard you used 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:26.000 to write uh pepsie letters and things like that. But 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.560 in the beginning, how did you get started? How how 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.440 did you find your love for the music? Me and 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:33.840 Comedion that we grew up together on the same street. 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:37.080 I know in my whole life. We both was introduced 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.320 to hip hop around the same age and around the 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:44.359 same time, through the same era, especially if Texas artists 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.320 didn't inspired us, you know, because at that time there 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.280 wasn't if we look on the TV or turn on 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:52.040 the radio, there wasn't a lot of people from where 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:57.440 we're from that we're professional in music. Yeah, even then, 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:01.480 it was like, I when you're living in Houston and 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:04.400 you see like you turn on the other you turn 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.280 on TV, whatever you see kind of like how people 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.600 treat rapple out. Sometimes we always kind of felt like 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:11.960 we got the short ended this. We're being kind of 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.720 Houston like maybe being there, we're so centrally located at 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.000 the South, at the bottom of the Midwest. You know, 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:20.880 we're in the South, but we're far west on the South, 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.320 so we're kind of removed from kind of what goes 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:27.799 on sometimes in Florida, Georgia. Yeah, so it's like, you know, 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:30.960 although we have a lot of similarities, it was like, man, 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.920 you know, we stich a part of the South. Like 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:38.120 sad he said that he considered he considered that the 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.920 South like the Texas because of different time zone, right, right, 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.200 do you do you agree with that statement or just 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.880 I mean personally I never looked at the time zone 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.600 is being a reason for where being in the south, 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.600 because there's plenty of people in the central time zone. 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.080 Is you know, Chicago's the central time zone and it 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.280 ain't your solveth but you know, it's just it's just 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.160 more the Southwest. But even then, you know, California is 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:03.480 the Southwest. Texas teams so big, it feels west coast. 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.040 And the one thing that gets lost to is it 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.360 inside of Texas, we all got our own culture. So 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.800 Houston and Dallas is a lot different. And if you 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:16.360 add in San Antonio and Austin, all four of them, 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:21.120 places are four distinct different cultures within Texas. Some of 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.400 the stuff we do share, you know, some of the 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:33.080 same similar only for top well, but imagine growing up 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:36.880 in Austin where once a year is the biggest music 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.120 festival ever, and then the rest of the year, it's 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.680 like what's going on? There is events they go on 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.160 there like throughout the year. Like there's some called Texas Relays, 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.640 which is like a big slab of in a big 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:50.000 car event where we're all we're all go there to 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:51.920 to Austin for the Texas Relays for that and there's 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.040 other events to you know, throughout the year and the 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:57.080 Austin got a dope same period musically, not just you 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.719 know all over musical for sure, specifically in hip hop, 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.599 but you know, just it's a different culture, it's a 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.520 different being there. It's a capital being it it's a 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:09.320 college town being that they have the you know, it's 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.599 considered a lie. They call it the live music capital 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:14.200 of the world. So the rappers coming out of there, 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.120 you can tell they're influenced by that. Then you go 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.800 to San Antonio. San Antonio is a huge military uh 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:23.160 town basically, so it has his own culture separate from 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.040 the military. But the fact that there's all these military 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.760 bases all on in San Antonio around San Antonio all 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.960 the way to ford Hood, which is clean. But you 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.600 have people to come from around the world and grow 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.640 up in San Antonio, but they kind of like from 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:38.640 New York, but they're living in San Antonio because their 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:43.159 parents stay in santon Antonio, California. Man, it's a you Also, 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.559 San Antonio is you know, the first like major major 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.040 city when you come up the from the border, from 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.640 the Mexican border right there. So there's you know, Brown's 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.760 vill McCallen all that, Corpus Christie and in San Antonio, 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:56.760 which is the big city is where you know they 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.960 got we got a basketball team there, Spirs, We got 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.280 the you know, the the Oilers used to do their 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.280 pre games preseason out there. The Texans, I don't know 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.480 if they don't think they do them, but the Oilers 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.320 used to. They got you know, in Corpus Christie right there, 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.400 which is right there with Selina's from Rest in Peace Selena. 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.880 But they got the you know, uh in around Rock 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:16.480 all around there. They got the different minor league teams 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.880 for the Astros. So it's like it's it's different than 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.839 like major, big city type of operations stuff they're going, 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.120 but it's still big city things are going. So yeah, 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.040 So if you're a producer or your artists coming up 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.200 in San Antonio, you got more of a I would 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:35.919 say a global influence growing up there because there's people 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.320 that I mean, it's like that everywhere though, even Miami's 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.479 people from all over the world right here. But you know, 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.560 it's just when you when you're in school and everybody 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.760 in your class their parents are from somewhere outside of Texas. 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.840 It's like it just gives you a different perspective when 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.080 you are growing up as a rapper producer. So they 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.400 got a dope hip hop scene is you know, it's 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.880 differently so each one of then we got other other 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.760 cities like al Paso, which is right there on. You know, 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:03.400 that's the piece of what happened. Man for show thoughts 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:05.680 out to all the prayer Man Rising piece. But two 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.200 thousand and five you were signed to Atlantic Records, right 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.960 and the they boot on that was the people's chance, 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:15.160 right didn't follow by getting money and state troopers. How 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:19.480 can you compare being on a major uh too because 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.800 you went back to the Independent. Now what do you 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.840 like more than how do you compare? I mean the 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.600 differences I would say is when you're independent, you gotta 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:32.280 fund everything, uh and it's a lot more. The Independent 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:36.360 is grindwork. Its relationships did either you or people in 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:39.600 your inner circle have built on through years, you know 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.679 what I'm saying. So that that's what the independent grind 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:43.840 is all about. It is, you know, doing the footwork, 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:47.600 doing legwork, just going out there, really touching, interacting with 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.480 your fans, really giving the people what they want consistently. 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.480 And when you go to a major label. You know, 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.960 some people can continue that grind inside the major system, 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:59.000 but it's a different It's like college sports versus major 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:00.960 league sports. You know what I'm say. It's similar, but 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:05.160 it's different. I mean the major. When you're on a 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.920 major labe, when you got all their resources, money, you 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:09.760 ain't got a called no whether they're calling for you. 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:13.360 So it's you know, it's I would say being also 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.440 that I sell grills through and when I was on 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.760 a major label, I still had independent, multiple independent albums 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.640 I was getting collecting money off of that was selling more. 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.360 Now that I'm on a major and I'm selling grills 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:26.920 and I got a teacher online, so I got other 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:31.040 multiple businesses that are all benefiting from the eposure. Yeah, 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.160 so I for sure it would say I would like 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:38.280 the major better, buddy, if I'm just an art independent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:43.520 You gotta be built well, you know, definitely. You know, 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.600 it's it's a if you if you have a great 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:50.560 business mind and you you can take the bluss when tears, 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:52.760 and you can hustle and not give up and tap out, 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.600 then that independent is for show the way to go 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.400 because you still the staff. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's what 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.880 that's what getting lost to is it when you're independent. 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:03.600 It's like some of it works where my manager, who's 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.400 my manager is he's been my managers, the only manager 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.600 I've ever had, and he's my home where I grew 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.920 up with. And he didn't go to school to for management. 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:12.800 He was doing something else when I was like, hey, man, 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.040 needs you to come on the road because I need help, 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.400 you know. And the reason why I went with that 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.080 route instead of going with somebody who has a you know, 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.760 diploma degree. Yeah, I wanted to go with somebody that 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.680 I personally can trust where they have what I feel like, 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.240 they have my best interests at hard They come from 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:30.840 where I come from, so they share some of the 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:34.000 same perspective. They want the same things for me, where 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.080 when some of them managers they just there for their money. 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:38.880 They don't care for you and your wife stay married. 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.400 They don't care if your whole hood turn on you 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.280 and don't care about you and call yoursel out. They 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.240 don't care about that. They were like, well, yeah, letn't 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:46.920 call you said out. Were getting you these checks. But 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.400 them things mean something to me, you know, Like it 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:50.800 means something to me to be able to go back 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:52.880 to why I grew up and for people to be 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.679 proud of me to be from there as opposed to 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:57.880 go back to why I grew up in them to 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.719 be like here seilout man, we're gonna You know that 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.920 that means more than meeting whatever the check might be, 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.080 because you can't buy that type of love or respect. 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.240 And also just you know, the music. For me, this 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:11.679 is like this is a love of passion for me. 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.400 So it's my dream job. The only other job I 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.240 would want it would be to be a DJ. That's 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.920 why I started out as DJ, because to me, that 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.120 was something I've seen a career path and being a 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:24.160 DJ where I didn't see a career path being a 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.599 rapper because it just ain't that many rappers from our neighborhood. 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:31.280 And then eventually when you start seeing people and come 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.080 in there doing it for fun, and you know, we 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.600 were going to school together, we and whatever grade you know, 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.960 the second, third, fourth grade or whatever. Whenever you know 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.400 we we're being on a on a munch table, we're 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:44.120 on a school bus, whatever. And a lot of times 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.600 it came from seeing other people doing it and me 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.320 thinking it was trash man. I could put some words 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:53.160 together and then someone maybe call me out what you got? 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:54.760 You see what you got, and I'm like, all right, 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:56.360 let me tell you what I got. And then you know, 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.160 then the reaction of people, oh, damn, you're really good. 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:00.640 It's like ship maybe I am kind of god it 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.560 let me try to do this. But it was never 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.360 you know, even up until because me and Comedia were 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.080 wrapping for a long time before we saw any success 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:12.319 and then when we got when we came into the Switchhouse. 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.840 Even before that, I was doing I was DJM for 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.720 the Switchhouse. I was carming Michael watch Crates, I was 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.760 passing out flyers. Me and my boy T Ferris was 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:24.880 in the in the office pressing up the CDs before 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:26.760 they the same CDs that you buy out the store. 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.000 We were pressing them up. So I was doing more 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.640 background work as opposed to just being in front of 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.120 the microphone. And I'm on the you know, on the mixtape. 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.960 So I really worked my way into the Switch House. 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.199 So even becoming an artist in the Switch Out that 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:46.480 was like back then in our neighborhood was like every 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:51.400 yeah yeah. Some of that to me was the street 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.200 team was working for Dead Jam or working for a 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.960 No Limit and then Cash Money, and then that's how 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:58.840 I got on with Switchhouse. And then at that time 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.800 too we switch House. Everybody wanted to wrap and switch out, 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:03.960 like in Houston on the North Side. So it was 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:07.160 like ship, how cannot be? And I've seen how Michael 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.480 Watts when people start blowing his phone up to get 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.959 on the tape, you know, eventually like, don't answer. I 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:13.960 ain't answering that ship. But he fussed with me. So 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:15.600 I'm like, now I don't want him to if I 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.200 ask him, I don't want to turn that off. And 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.480 I can't get on the taping on. I can't get 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:20.920 you know, He's gonna be like, I don't come around. 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:22.600 And so I said, okay, I just you know, work 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:24.480 my way in doing other work, doing other work. And 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.080 I actually got on with switch House with Michael White 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:28.880 because at one time I've seen him I'm doing I'm 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.080 putting up I'm putting up posters for a deaf gym 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.120 artist somebody. I see him at one of the record 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.320 stores and I asked myself, watch man, how come ya 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.880 don't never wrap on the cash money? Many fresh beatau 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.439 I should love cash money and many fresh beat hard 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.000 and they would never whatever freestyle and he was like, well, 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.400 the artists choose the beats, and they just didn't choose 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.280 the beat. And I'm like, man, they tell him they tripping, 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.280 they need to wrap on this beat that beat, and 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.280 he just caught them out. Was like, well, what would 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.600 you do when I just freestyle something? And he was like, 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:54.920 come on, let's go. And then we took me to 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:58.000 the studio and watch. Um he died off a lean 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:03.000 or now you're talking about j screw But even then, um, 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:06.720 I mean, it's like a debatable subject. I mean, he 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.800 did have coding in his blood, but I don't think 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:11.439 that's what killed him. He had a lot of he 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.480 had other stuff and you know, the lifestyle be will 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.640 kill you, I think more than Lane now. I mean, 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.439 you know, it's very touch of subject. And then and 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:20.319 also try to I like some of it. I try. 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:22.800 I try to be respectful or not only him or 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.960 whoever else. But at the same time, it's a lot 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:29.760 of miseducation that people talk about there, like you know, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:35.480 fake facts about lean Like I mean me personally, I'm 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:39.800 never seeing ever anyone in the history of drink ever 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.880 die from coding. Now, is it possible you could die 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.640 from that. Man, I might be drinked out and then 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.000 getting a car accident, but the lane would kill me. 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:52.560 You know, if if I said drank and I mean 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.920 fry foods every day, I'm not drinking the water. Only 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.680 water I'm drinking is the ice in my cup. I'm 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.640 not exercising it all. I'm staying up, I'm not getting 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.040 proper sleep. Everything else I'm eating and putting in my body. 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:04.880 And not only fried food. But there's some type of 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.520 track is sugary, right, and then and then you mix 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:13.040 it with some is that like a big part of it? Uh? 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.760 You know, I have seen long term people who see 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.440 drink long term they teeth might get sucked up. But 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:20.640 you know, a lot of it is just it ain't 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.040 like meth where if you smoke meth, your teeth gonna 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.000 get sucked up. With drink. If you sit drink and 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.280 you don't brush your teeth ever, and you still drink 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.440 every day, every every day, then you might get cavities. 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.720 But that's this ain't could be said for the soda. 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.000 And most people that I've heard talking about it, they 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.600 say it's the soda that funs your teeth for not 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:39.760 to drink. There's sugar in the drink, but the sugar 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.440 in the soda is what's really what it is. Now. 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.400 The thing that I think, um most people, I think 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:50.320 the most valuable information about any type of recreational drug 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.240 consumption is that, you know, it's kind of table, like 0:14:53.240 --> 0:15:00.400 the way he said it, recreational drunk, do you know 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:02.480 some of them taboo to talk about. But at the 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.080 same time, the fact that we're keeping it private is 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.280 what's causing people to die. Like some of this like 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.680 you know, if you're taking norcoles or oxycoton or anything 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.800 like that, or any opioid, yeah, and you're drinking alcohol 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.240 that she could be deadly. If you're taking the opioids 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.520 and the xanax and other things, the combination that ship 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.160 for shows deadly. So it's like you know it ain't 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:29.680 because you know, yeah, you know it was ill almost 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.960 that when they said that they found pimps that that 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:37.080 he couldn't he couldn't breathe like so like like like um, 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:38.760 like I think he rolled over or something like that, 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.320 I forget, and like he couldn't breathe, so that they 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:44.640 didn't say it's lean they said that like sleep Yeah, 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:46.840 he had for show. He had rest in Peace man 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:51.200 to he uh, he he had sleep apnel and the 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.600 doctor told him, you know he's watching ours. She'll say 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.120 this when she come on there. You got ask if 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.920 she'll tell you when the doctor say you got sleep apnel, 0:15:58.000 --> 0:15:59.880 you have to have the masks. If you sleep without 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:04.120 the man. Yeah, he told him, if you sleep without it, 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.680 you're gonna die. He slept without it. He died. Did 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.800 he have drinking He did have drinking his system. I 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.760 think they said he had cocaine and system to it, 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.280 you know, but you ain't never hear knowing saying, oh 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:15.600 he died from cocaine over those. But they had cocaine 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:17.160 in the system. They said, oh, you die from drink 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.480 over those. The doctor didn't say he died from drink 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.920 over those. Doctor said he died from heart respiratory failure 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:26.440 or something which came from the sleep avenue. But lean 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:28.800 is a dangerous because I see so many people like 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.280 so addicted to it, Like I know people who don't 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.160 you wake up and that's what they do. Some of 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.480 it is I mean me, I think the lifestyle is 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.040 the most dangerous where the lane is so expensive, so 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.960 people will get caught up in sipping lane and then 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.560 they sucking their money off. Now, it ain't like to 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:48.720 the point where people is breaking in their mama houses, 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.480 pawning TVs to go buy a drink, but they will, 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.240 you know. I see people off a lot of money 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:58.440 on the drink. And and to me, it was dangerous 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.120 about it. The absolute most is the fake drink. When 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.760 they be playing talking about it, he was breaking down 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.719 all the fake stuff. Yeah, that ship is the most 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.960 most most dangerous because man, you don't know what you're sipping. 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:14.000 So what are they doing when the man, they need 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.879 to stop doing whatever they're doing. Man, they need to stop. 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:20.080 But this I don't know. I don't know if they're 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.679 whipping it up in their garage like you know, or 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.840 if it's something they just they don't brow this ship. Man, 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.680 I don't know what they're doing. But it ain't drunk, 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:32.080 you know, it's maybe whatever they don't I don't know 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.480 that ship. To me is what's the dangerouship though, is 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.480 when they said the fake drink because you don't know 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:39.119 what you're sipping. It's just like when they when you 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.800 got pressed up pills. You know that when pressed up 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:45.040 pills are dangerous man. You know, one little grain of 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.360 fitting all more than you're supposed to have would kill 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:49.760 you. You You know what. The activist still floating around don't know. 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.640 You can google this. They stop making activists in two thousands, 0:17:56.600 --> 0:18:00.640 like Levin. So someone has activists right now it's fake. 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.800 Oh they it's real. But then if my mama had 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.200 activis right now, I'll tell a quick plane that ain't real. 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.800 Is it possible? I mean this the this the scam 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.119 I got my I got all this fake drink. I 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.159 come to you and I say, hey, I got a 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:21.920 homeboy in Kentucky, his grandma on the pharmacy. They ain't 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:24.040 sell this ship. They ain't never get rid of it, 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.640 and we got a stoppile of it. It's the real ship. Man. 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.160 I can get it to you whatever. I don't know. 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.720 I'm I'm going off what you're saying. You know, you're 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.840 completely scamming me or somebody scam you, so you really 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:39.240 believe it, and then it's that's the thing is that man, 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.480 I can tell you, you know, that's that's what they say. 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.159 It's came from the Midwest somewhere or somewhere like that, 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.760 where if something came from a pharmacy in Iowa. How 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.120 can I verify that I'm in Houston. You know, if 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:57.320 it's come from anywhere, can I was the first? I 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:02.320 don't know who the first ever come back here. We 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:08.240 need to make that who is that? You know? Yeah, 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.000 I take the rest of the ship out of here. 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:16.159 It works. It works. The other thing they'll do is 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.600 they'll say, oh, I know somebody who used to work 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.720 at Activists, so they know how to make it. They 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.360 got they can get the chemicals online and they can 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:26.919 make it. They know how to make it. It's the 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.480 same thing. Man, that ain't the same thing, and they 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.320 ain't work used to work at Activists. They send the 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.359 fake drinking. They just need a story to sell it. 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:41.399 Another thing they'll say is, oh, well, okay, the the okay, 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:43.840 we got the pharmacies in the Middlewest. We got to 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.719 somebody used to work at Activists. Then they'll it'll be 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:49.840 just things like that, or I know somebody who can 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:51.639 create it, or I used to have it, or my 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:53.800 homeboy just got out of jail. This smoke kicking in, 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.040 so I just got a jail, or my my homeboy 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.040 just got out of jail. He had these points at 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.720 his Mama House and he want to sell them, you know, 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.200 but it'll be what you got a hunted points because 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:06.040 you've been selling them the same points for months now. 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:10.199 Ship like damn. But you know they the scams on 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:13.560 the fake drink on how it's real is just man, 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:18.240 It's it's ridiculous though. But you know we pick up papers, 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:24.960 pick up to Smoke Channel, pick up to two Miami 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:28.159 and uh, you know, pick up to people with cherry 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.240 and like I said, Sean papers and all that. But 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:34.399 all right, so switch house now, but go before that 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:36.639 because I want to go back to when when Screw 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.280 and then started making the taste that was all based 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:41.600 off of lean culture as well, right, I mean it 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:43.040 was a part of it for sure, you know what 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:45.000 I'm saying. But it was like it's like when you 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:47.000 make a club song, it's not you know, the alcohol 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:48.600 have something to do with the alcohol, go with it. 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:50.879 But you can make a club party song and you 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:55.280 don't even drink to slow down music. Wasn't because for 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:57.800 sure that was part of me. You know, you know 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.280 I think if you were sober funny, I mean, what 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:02.720 is going up? Well, I mean I grew up and 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:05.320 I didn't smoke or drink growing up until I was older, 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:07.840 so I grew up appreciating it. To me, it was 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.280 the greatest music on earth. So you know, you can 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:12.520 still appreciate it, you know. I think without there, but 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:14.200 I think in the moment of creating it and all that. 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:16.520 And I created it too before. I you know, I 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:19.399 was slowing music down DJ and like that, before I 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:21.679 was really like leaning, what do you actually do to 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:26.919 slow it down? It's different now now it's like now 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:34.480 it's a plug that was just a Houston thing or 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:37.399 like because you know, back in those days. It's funny 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.800 because I'm there was a DJ in Florida who would 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.719 make mixtape too slow down, but he wouldn't they wouldn't 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:47.840 chop him up. And I think Flori a lot of 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.160 them maybe, but it was it was like a pretty 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:52.480 because when I think, here we speed it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:58.280 I remember I came down here in like nine, uh 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:01.200 for something that was going on and with my Jamaican partner, 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:04.480 and it was like, oh, you know, it was going down. 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:08.320 It was all up tempo, you know, and then we 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.760 passed by one person. I hear somebody jamming screwed and 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:12.480 I'm like, oh, ship, they must be from Texas. And 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:15.400 then that's how I found out, like, now, no, we 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:18.000 were that, But since we sped it up out here, 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:20.280 it was like, how the fund do you listen to this? 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:25.159 Because everybody's doing cocaine? So think about it. I mean, 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:27.040 I just made it up, but I think about it. 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:33.480 Kind of makes sense we're sped up out here. That 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:36.639 sounds a little better some of them in Texas. I 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:38.840 you know, I thought about some of them Texas. We 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:40.920 spread out, you know, so we got you know, you 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:42.960 gotta have a car to get from point A to 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:45.480 point B or whatever. You gotta have a car, whereas 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:47.040 you know, it's like that in a lot of CITs 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:49.119 as well, but you know it's also not like that 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:50.359 in a lot of seats, so we spread it. You 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:52.400 gotta have a car. A lot of people take better 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:54.360 care of the car than the house. So we're gonna 0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:56.600 make sure we have mute. You know, there's based in 0:22:56.640 --> 0:22:59.720 the trunk. So didn't that leads to there being based 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.159 in the music because when you're artists too, you're like, 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:04.400 they ain't playing my ship if they got on base 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:05.480 in this. And let me make sure you got a 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:07.200 lot of base in it, then as hot as fun, 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:09.840 so you know she's slow like that. Then the swing 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:12.320 and all of that. The driving slowly really traditionally, like 0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:15.600 in the car car wise, came from the streets being 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:18.280 sucked up. They're being potholes. Whatever. Man, if I'm in 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:20.520 this car, ain't my rooms up, I'm gonna drive slow. 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:22.920 I'm gonna swing around them. And then it became like 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:26.920 a tradition or fokes on your ms when the wheel 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:29.960 yourself that that's for nigga's not to come close to 0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:34.520 your car. I mean, this is the style for the 0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:37.399 Over the years, they've gotten wider. You know, they originally 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:39.600 when they originally came out in the eighty four, they 0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:42.280 was they didn't stick out past the fender. But just 0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:45.040 you know when they as time went on, they got 0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:48.360 the technology got better, the rims got improved from going 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:50.919 from alumium still, so you know, they don't get then 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:52.800 up as much. They don't fall apart like they used 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:54.840 to it. So you know, it's like it just didn't 0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:59.440 got upgraded updated with the times. But because we'll drive 0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.040 right next to each other and be looking like we're 0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:05.840 about the crap, you know, take it, definitely take a season. 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:08.240 Veteran driver, you gotta kind of hold you nuts when 0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:10.520 you're driving. You know some of that would have been 0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:12.399 at the same time. You gotta kind of be you 0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:14.080 gotta be focused. You can't be on your phone all 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:18.080 that kind of ship. You gotta you gottau But so 0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.760 that's the you know that that candy they dripped that 0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:24.480 wet yourself house inside of the House of Colors, Shout 0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:27.600 out the House of Colors. You know, that's that's something man. 0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:30.719 You know, car lovers around the world. That's funny because uh, 0:24:30.760 --> 0:24:32.600 a lot of people, a lot of the car cultures 0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:36.440 outside of Houston don't funk with the poking rims. They're like, like, man, 0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:39.560 they don't funk with the yeah, car clean, but the 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:42.680 rims look like trash, so they really don't. Man. Especially, 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:45.639 it's funny, like all my brothers in California, they'll be 0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:47.960 going at it with all my holies to Texas, where 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.720 it'd be like ship because the cars be a little 0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:53.919 bit different. But car car lovers everywhere, you know, they 0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:55.600 got a love for that candy paint. Man, when you 0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:57.800 got that that paint is so well to look like 0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:00.520 a jolly rancher. The painting look like it looked like 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:02.840 you just sprayed it with a with a water holes. 0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:04.960 You know what I'm saying that, Man, it's just it's 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:07.280 just something about that, especially when it's clean. You got 0:25:07.280 --> 0:25:10.840 candy paying this dirty man, I'm the definition of riding dirty. Man. 0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:13.879 I should be so dirty. But man, when when that 0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.280 should be cleaned up and you're looking good? Man, ain't 0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.080 nothing like a wet candy car. Man, Ain't nothing like 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.080 a slab on candy man. For so, now, how did 0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:25.159 you get into grills? Because most rappers, no one is 0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:27.200 thinking like that, Like how did you? How did your mind? 0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:33.439 Even like every business I got into, it was I 0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:35.280 want that. How can I get a cheaper? I can 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.080 get a cheaper if I sell it. Then if I'm 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.199 just a customer, so how can I sell it? And 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:40.960 then let me, you know, let me learn the game 0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:44.000 whatever anything any business I have or have ever had, 0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:46.840 so with that, it was always wanted one. I wanted 0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:50.040 to grill. But you know in the South, it was 0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:52.240 always permanent grills. You know, you would go to a 0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.639 Dinnis to do the grills and then you know you 0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:56.840 couldn't get no removable grills, nothing like that. That's what 0:25:56.960 --> 0:26:00.320 we would always see and ship everywhere period. And then 0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.040 all of a sudden we see Wu Tang on the 0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:06.440 videos taking the grills out. We're like, man, what's going on? 0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:08.840 They did they do that? I won't want new grill. 0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:13.119 We ain't have nothing like that, Yeah, perfectly. So then uh, 0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:16.560 you know, my boy crime came from Brooklyn. He came 0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:20.560 with the removable style grills to Houston. He's still selling 0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:23.399 grills to He like a traveling grills salesman. He go 0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.520 all around the country, out around the world selling grills. 0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:28.960 But he came to Houston to our neighborhood selling New 0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:32.600 York style grills, you know, removable grills, and it was 0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:35.040 cheaper than the other grills. We're like, man, what's going on. 0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:38.080 He's some flea market grills. He's some like beauty shop 0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.080 grill win shot grills. What's going because you know you 0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:41.840 can get the one little tooth to come on? Come on, 0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:44.119 we ain't talking like we're talking about like the custom 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:46.600 removable all of that. We're like, man, hold on. Everything 0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:48.880 he had was just some next level of different ship. 0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:50.920 And I would always see him was at that time too, 0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:54.680 I'm passing out flyers promoting that clubs. And then I bam, 0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:56.840 see his flyer on the car, so I bump into him. 0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.000 He see me. He like, oh, you're the one who've 0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:00.879 been passing out these flyer And I'm like, man, you 0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:03.040 do one who selling grills and you're like I just 0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:04.679 straight up total. He wanted me to work for him 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:06.919 doing promotions. I'm like, bed, I want to work for you, 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.639 but ship, I need that wholesale price. You know. I 0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:12.040 ain't gonna start my own store without you. Nothing like 0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.040 that I needed for my own personal use. So he 0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.720 hired me to promote, had me promoting for me, actually 0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:19.399 had me running the store selling grills, and that's how 0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:21.119 I got my first set of grills. Was you know 0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:23.840 how to make grills yourself? Oh yeah, oh yeah, but 0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:28.639 you you know finish from yeah, from taking your mold 0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:32.480 to casting the gold. I ain't now now I ain't. 0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:36.480 I ain't. I can't front if you if I say you, 0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:42.360 if I get your grill like your grills, you ain't 0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:50.840 give me the verse. I like to take your mold, 0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:54.120 let me take your over trying to set before Hey, 0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:57.679 Sue said the man you know so yeah, yeah, but 0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:01.159 man from there was boy corn. He had me up 0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.600 onund of him and then eventually he just he brought 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.879 me to Johnny where we was just salesman. Johnny made 0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:10.720 everything from scratch. At that point, Johnny was, you know, 0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:14.400 on his rise to start him, you know, being a 0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.640 grill maker and hen like, man, you know what, it's 0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:18.840 about time for me to get a story. That's right 0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:20.600 around the time when we linked up, and then we 0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:22.600 just kind of took it to another level. And then 0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:27.160 him being a Vietnamese immigrant, it'd be tough sometimes. Man. 0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:29.520 The story this is, this is like one time I 0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:31.000 hung out with t V. Johnny is one of the 0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:34.560 motherfucker most you know, he got the Ellis Access. Yeah. 0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:37.879 So I had just said, l A. I was with 0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:40.400 sip TV and I think we just hooting the video 0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:44.640 for these people mastercraft. So TV Johnny comes, Johnny Dade 0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:47.040 comes to h I think he was filming in the 0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:50.000 Roxy in l A on the sunset. So I'm like, yo, 0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:52.760 I'm mad happy. I went to Watts, I went to Carpton, 0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:55.120 I went to Inglewood. I went to all these hoods 0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:59.080 and um l A. So the whole time, I'm saying, man, 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.440 I just went to all the hoods in l a TV. 0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:04.600 Johnny looked at me and said, man, there's no hood. 0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:14.800 They eat my dog. Yeah, yeah, Ship. I'm trying to 0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.760 identify what the fun is being hood and eating his 0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:21.200 dog somebody. Because I said, you can't just tell me 0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:24.160 something like yeah, just move on. I need to know 0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:26.680 why you just said that. He said, Man, I had 0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:30.400 my pet one day. I said, said, yeah, my dog. 0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:32.719 I went to the store. I leave on my side 0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.560 take him And I said what? And then later on 0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:38.120 and he said, they gave me and play the fool 0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:43.200 I eat my dog with them. I said, that's the 0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:47.360 story I heard. Never forget it. I'll never forget it. 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:49.240 We went to Ever. We went to We didn serially. 0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:52.200 We was in the village and he was like, oh, 0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.920 I should remind me that we say this is from 0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.880 He's like, hey, this is ship. Yeah. He's like, man, 0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:01.080 it's just like being on you. Well, Tago got the 0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:07.120 room and went to the actual. Man. It was so dope, bro, 0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.400 just like you know, first of all, going over there, 0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:14.040 going to Africa, it's something that's like, Man, that's the 0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:19.480 mothers going to Africa tomorrow to enjoy. Brother, they enjoy. 0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:21.640 You're gonna man, You're gonna love it. Man, every everything 0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:24.560 period there was like just just being there. It was 0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:27.480 just a whole experience, breathing in the air. I'm taking 0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.520 it all and you know, I'm man, see this is 0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:39.440 where the people got one hands from, Like the I 0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:41.640 don't know what I keep saying that, you don't know 0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.480 what I keep coming out with. It was crazy. Man. 0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:47.320 When the Raquel, when she came to us to do it, 0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:49.880 my boy Te Ferris was like, man, I don't know 0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:51.760 if we want Paula to go to Africa, you're gonna 0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:53.760 come back with the Daishiki even had no grill, He's 0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:56.160 gonna take Ain't gonna be on the same, gonna be 0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:58.800 a different because everybody always you know, think about Dave 0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:00.960 Chappelle when he went to Good then he turned down 0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.160 fifty million, so that's what he said, You like, man 0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.320 on with that fifty million, come we need to sign 0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:08.080 the check, you know. But I was just like, now, 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:10.600 whatever it is, you know, even if it do transform 0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:12.920 me personally, and also being at the time when I 0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:14.800 just had I just had my son, So it's like 0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:17.920 you put it just puts the whole world in perspective, 0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:21.520 you know, just especially growing up in Houston, leaving Houston 0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:23.400 to go to other cities and then going to other 0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:27.360 continents and other a little completely different worlds. You know, 0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:29.840 it's it's it's an amazing thing that I this is 0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:32.920 my dream job. Man. I appreciate every second and all 0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:36.360 of that. Then to really be educated on the diamonds 0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:38.560 and all that things I ain't know about it, So 0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:40.400 to put us on what did you learn out there? Okay, 0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.400 First of all, the ships corrupt as fun, just like 0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:46.680 it is everywhere worldwide, you know, ship and man, people 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.600 being exploited. All the stories you hear about Africa being 0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:52.520 exported for their resources, that should be real talk like 0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:56.000 people don't be understanding that this this is a world 0:31:56.040 --> 0:32:00.680 where every human came from and now it seems like 0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:03.440 every other country and continent has exploited it in a 0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:08.640 long way or continue to so. Man with the diamonds specifically, okay, 0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:11.480 they had a civil war in the nineties where it 0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.760 was you know, it was it was crazy and like 0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:16.680 a lot of they of course they got the movie 0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.880 with Leonardo DiCaprio, Blood Diamond. He kind of talks about 0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.239 explaining some of it, but you know, it would be 0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:25.760 basically rebels who would take over the diamond mines and 0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:28.600 then trade the diamonds for drugs or trade them for 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:30.840 guns or things like that. And there was some crazy 0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:34.640 ship child soldiers out there, you know, like thirteen fourteen, 0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:37.400 fifteen years old soldiers, and you know they would come 0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:41.239 in and you know, completely destroy a village and can 0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:44.480 out the kids. Then put the cocaine in the coffee 0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:48.360 of the kids and and drug them and brainwashed them 0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:52.840 into thinking somebody else did it as different. Oh, completely sure. 0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:55.240 First of all, you know, things I didn't understand what 0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:58.600 the Kimberley process where if you buy a dim If 0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:01.680 I'm a jeweler and I go buy my diamonds wholesale, 0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.640 it needs to be registered through the Kimberly process. Now 0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.880 what that means is when the diamond is mind in 0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:10.959 the mind. And they got different minds. They got like 0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:14.719 flint stones looking minds, just like a big gass pit, 0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:16.920 and they got these big gas machines, and then they 0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:21.560 got the watermines where they're out there sitting in the mud. Yeah, 0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:24.920 so there's there might be more, you know, our caves 0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:26.560 and us, but what we saw, that's what I saw. 0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:30.840 So they are and when they mind basically everything from 0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:34.200 who own the on the mind who's actually mining. There's 0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:36.920 it's like labor laws, Like a lot of this ship 0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:39.960 is corrupt, so they'll pay. Man, they would get like 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.680 a dollar a day. Some ship thirty ninety cents a 0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:46.640 day and a bowl of rice. That was their pay 0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:48.880 for being out there in the mud sitting through the diamonds. 0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:50.959 They ain't write the ninety cents a day. And you know, 0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.360 so things like they where you know, there's there's not 0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:55.360 like labor laws on that type of ship. You know, 0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:58.320 it's it's crazy, man, to see that it's like this. 0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:03.080 And then the crazy perspective is just just living in 0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:07.480 this civilization, Western civilization where you're taught that you know, 0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.480 the diamond is you know, that's a symbol of success, 0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:13.799 that's a symbol of achievement, of pride to show off. 0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.319 But then to see when you try trace back where 0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:18.680 it came from all the way and not all diamonds 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.640 are mind like that, through child labor and things like that, 0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:23.640 but the ones that are, it's like it just it 0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:25.440 just makes you think about all, like, man, what is 0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:27.040 it really worth it? You know, who was getting paid 0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:28.799 off of this? And then you see you know. So 0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:31.360 that's why for me going out there, it was important 0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:33.239 that Johnny came with me because I'm like, bro, we 0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:35.719 gotta come out there because there's certain things on the 0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.040 business and that I don't know. I don't you know 0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:40.080 the people that you know, he the businessman when it 0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.760 comes to negotiating all that type of ship. I'm the 0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.000 marketing person where I'm the face of the company, you know, 0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:46.759 So he do what he do. I do it. Don't 0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:50.759 change anything you did based on how you off Top 0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:52.440 before that, we you know, we didn't even know of 0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:54.719 the Kimberly process, so all of that, you know. And 0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:58.480 then of course Johnny being from Vietnam where it's the country, 0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.279 the life that it was the same, it was a 0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.920 lot similar to what we saw, it touched him as well. 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.680 So for sure, off Top we switched our diamond hostel 0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:07.560 up and make sure they were going through the Chimerley 0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:09.480 process the ones before. Now let me say this and 0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:12.200 what the Chimley process. Let me finish it. When you 0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.279 mind it, you know, when you mind the diamond, you 0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:16.239 have to you find the diamond. You gotta you know, 0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:17.960 if I own the diamond, mind, I gotta get it. 0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:21.640 Each diamond registered. Then when it's sold whoever it's sold too, 0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:25.000 there's like a it's got a number registered to it 0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:27.399 so it can be tracked where exactly it came from. 0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:29.680 Now it's you know, with anything on the black market, 0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:31.799 you can you're diamond when I when we were when 0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:33.320 we out there at people in the hotel, like you 0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:36.600 need some diamonds, And I'm like, man, ain't just like 0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:39.960 damn that? Like, man, that be well, I'm just tripping 0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:42.160 to myself thinking like, man, what type of person like 0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:46.839 the flood on the diamonds. I'm glad we weren't out 0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:48.520 there to get the plug on the diamonds, were out 0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:52.480 there to try to understand or you know, it's I 0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:54.960 think it would be kind of like I mean, I 0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:56.799 can't say like we can change the world and we 0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:59.440 can change it, but we personally have to make a change, 0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:08.160 you know. I think that's what you doing. Yeah, that's 0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:15.160 where after that. Oh yeah, the holy experience out there, bro, 0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:18.959 it was everything you know of Uh, you know, we 0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:21.759 got the U n escorting us. You met all the 0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:24.839 mutilated kids also thinking we met some of them. There's 0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:26.920 like a village to it, like it's it's some of 0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:29.400 it's it's just you know, you see kind of like 0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:32.280 growing up here, man, you know, we first you taught 0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:34.960 that everything is perfect, and then you realize it's all 0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.480 lives and bullshit. And then later on you realize the 0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:39.200 whole world is like that. You know, that's kind of 0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:41.279 how it was for me. Like I grew up thinking it, oh, 0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:44.279 America is great, and like, damn, this is funked up 0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.080 how it happened or how it still is. And then 0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:48.200 you go out to other places in the world, you like, 0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:51.160 damn the world. It really the world really fucked up. 0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:53.759 How we treat each other man's crazy. Man, So let's 0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:56.560 take it back, right, you and Johnny, you link up. 0:36:56.600 --> 0:37:00.359 He got crime, links you up with Johnny, right, all right, 0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:04.080 And Johnny's already doing it. He's already. He's already Johnny 0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:06.840 was at that time. This is Johnny's basic story. He 0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:11.840 came from Vietnam. Johnny actually has a crazy story within 0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:15.160 his personal family. His uncle was a general in the 0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:19.080 army in Vietnam. The commune side or the side is 0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:23.600 down with America. His uncle escaped from Vietnam. He was 0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:27.040 in jail. He escaped as a prisoner a war. It 0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.840 took him eighteen times. On his eighteenth time, he finally 0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:32.800 escaped and made it to America, got a political stylum 0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:35.759 everything here, and then one by one his family would 0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:37.799 come over. Johnny made it here when he was young, 0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:40.960 I think just out of high school. Um, like he 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.200 might have just graduated like some time around like that, 0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.720 and he went to school. He started off doing jewelry repair. 0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.680 He was man. His first six months here. I think 0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.200 he said he made five dollars his first six months, 0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:54.520 and he was like, man, this is the greatest in 0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:58.480 the world. It was like, you know, as a as 0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:01.440 a community, like has going back to Vietnam, saying a 0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:03.279 few times I tried to reach out when we did, 0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:05.040 I also went to Vietnam. We did a film out 0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:06.080 that I was trying to reach out to them to 0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:09.400 be in the film. You should have win, Yeah, I 0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:11.040 mean I just wanted to get like an interview from 0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:13.920 him about going. Yeah, it's already done, but I mean 0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:17.600 I want to go back. Man, maybe loved it. So 0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:21.280 what's it called coming home Vietnam? Thanks a lot, buddy, 0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:25.120 coming Yeah, that's what we got checked out. Back in 0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:27.160 the days they used to have to say, who is 0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:30.560 Mike Jones right now. It was where is Mike Jones at? 0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.520 Where is that nick guy? Man? Yeah? Man, your guests 0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:35.719 might be as good as mine. Maybe the number still works, 0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:40.680 call it the number? What happened? They don't? I think 0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:43.120 he actually, I think the phone company actually like tried 0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.799 to sue him because of that number, because they like, man, 0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:49.000 he don't have it no more so whoever has like 0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:50.680 they can't use it as a number. You know what 0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:53.279 I'm saying, because they whoever it is like right now 0:38:53.400 --> 0:39:00.799 is people texting college. It's dumb. Shout out Mike Jones away. Yeah, man, 0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:03.600 we wish you the best man ship. You know, what's 0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:07.720 what's up? Man? What it is? Got slimmed up bun 0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:12.440 y'all got you, you got you got z, We got 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:17.080 my boy and trade the truth. We got Agan Stallion. 0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:21.400 Shout out Magan Stadion. Lizzo, uh Lizzo from Houston to 0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:26.040 Travis Scott, Sauce twins, Travis Scott, none of your niggers 0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:31.800 niggas from Yeah, that's what's ill about it. You know 0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:34.520 he definitely from move yeah yeah, and he gets the 0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:38.839 biggest tribute though. Yeah. I think about that too, because 0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.800 you know we've Throughout the years, there's been other artists 0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:43.920 that have come out of Houston that didn't come with 0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.959 the traditional age town sound, you know what I'm saying, 0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:48.920 But he for sure took it to another level. But 0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:51.879 I think, you know what his style he has more 0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.719 of like you know, I think he's a kind of affected. 0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:57.720 It's you know, I have a bias being from Houston, 0:39:57.760 --> 0:39:59.759 so I'm gonna look at him like, oh yeah, you know, 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.839 he god, you know, but because he's yeah, yeah, because 0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:05.239 he's successful. So I'm rooting for him. I want to 0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:08.640 see all these for sure, but you know, just seeing 0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:10.920 just you know, just how you do his thing with 0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.879 the production and the rapp and then for him to man, 0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:21.040 man he on Saturday Night that Kardashian sex bring you 0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:24.640 right to the top with shout out to the kardash 0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:27.479 We've seen him on Saturday Night Live. Oh DJ screw 0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:29.960 in the background, them type of things. It's like, man, 0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.440 you know, and that kind of just goes to show. Like, 0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:34.759 you know, even from Houston or whatever wherever you're from. 0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:39.480 You know, if we got a wide variety of flavors, 0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:41.160 you know what I'm saying, we do have our best 0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.160 selling flavors but we got a wide variety of flavors 0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:52.520 shout out yeah yeah, And I wanted the people to 0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:55.759 know that. Paul Walter said he's not drinking today, So 0:40:56.040 --> 0:41:04.520 I Am not drinking up. It's going in and expect that. 0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:07.040 So because you know, some people come out here and 0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:09.520 they don't don't drink it like they drinking some time, 0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:17.400 and you know, I don't like that. You know, I 0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:19.200 want to join my guests. Now we have guests that 0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:21.320 don't don't come on or don't smoke or drink. But 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:23.880 it spa corse like Joe. But we had Joe button 0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:27.920 on I'm saying his name right nine because they was 0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:30.920 both they both felt like they were acn um well 0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:34.400 not Acon voice and um Joe. They felt like they 0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:36.960 were addicts at one point and that's the reason why 0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:41.400 they don't indulge anymore any time I want, right, so 0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:43.680 you don't still with or do you? Or do you huh? 0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:48.879 Or do I mean? You know? It's when you get 0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.279 older and then being a parent and then being a 0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:54.040 role model and actually seeing kids and then also having 0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:58.920 conversations with other artists and CEOs from Houston, from the 0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:02.640 eras that raised me and having them type of talks 0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.640 with them and get you a different perspective on the influence, 0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:07.640 where if I talk about it in a rapp or 0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:09.360 even if I make a whole song about it and 0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:13.160 I'm wearing a activist shirt or something, you yeah, but 0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:15.560 shall still got it. But even then I don't. It's 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:18.160 at the jury store. Some of it is, Like, man, 0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:21.840 how much of it is it just representing the culture 0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:23.759 or how much when is it turned from that to 0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:28.239 promoting the culture and promoting the misinformation of things? And 0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:30.880 then you know, it's like, man, we got parents on 0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:34.600 there trying to band boycott us. These kids that get 0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:36.480 on the internet and day like this, they look like 0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:41.440 and they can't stay up Like that's like, yeah, some 0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:44.120 of it is, but I mean, you know, I think 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.080 most of them not sitting drank though I think most 0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:48.560 of them is taking someone's and popping pills and others. 0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:54.480 But you know, and that's the it Definitely at some 0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:57.200 point it went because it's it's so funny man, being 0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.800 in you know, have grown up music. Leaving my musical 0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:02.760 career or when I signed to a major or whatever, 0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:06.080 you're going around the country recience drink. We asked you know, 0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:08.360 what's drinking or whatever. And then I just you know, 0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:11.600 certain places I'll go. I remember being in places and 0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:13.600 there was some very high powered people in the room 0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.520 and we sit and drank. They're looking at us like 0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:20.040 we're complete crackheads, and I'm like, damn, they're looking at 0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:25.319 it like we crackheads. But they was snorm cocaine, like yeah, 0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:28.399 and we just like damn. It's just funny to see, 0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:32.279 like how drink has just globally become accepted now, you know, 0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.040 like it's rapping. Like I was looking on Instagram's rappers 0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:37.920 in Africa talking about sit and drink and I'm like, damn, man, 0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:40.080 it's going down. And it's the other things like I 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:42.279 got a homeboy from Poland. I went to Poland. He's like, 0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:44.160 I got a present for you. What's up. It's some 0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:49.360 Poland drink. I'm like, damn, what's going down? And for 0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:51.759 so anytime we go to Mexico, we always you know, 0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:58.320 and my farmer see you know, but you know, it 0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:00.680 ain't and they make it different all around the world, 0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:02.279 you know what I'm saying, But it is it is 0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.680 cough serve all around the world. You know, you had 0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:08.040 one song to represent your your whole career like like 0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:11.120 like everything just once on to represent Paul or what 0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:14.279 would that song be? Uh? Man, that's a good one 0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:18.279 man ship, dude. It's definitely been a journey of career, man, 0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:20.440 my whole my This is my dream job. So I 0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:23.240 look at this as my career like ship, every aspect 0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:25.759 of whatever, even if it parlay and the other businesses. 0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:29.040 This is my dream job, dream career. I'm gonna do 0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:32.320 this as long as I'm able and capable, man, you know, 0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.719 So I don't know, I think, you know. For so 0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:37.680 I would maybe say drive slow because you know it's 0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:41.600 not not friends would say maybe drive slow would be? 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:46.360 And what what artists from the town inspired you? And 0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:48.520 then from outside of the time. For sure, Lott Kiki 0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.560 was my biggest inspiration. He um. You know I grew 0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:54.680 up on the era the screwed up Click everybody screwed 0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:59.719 up Drake talk about no no, no, you know these 0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:06.640 little look crazy you know what I mean and everything? 0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:11.600 You know what I mean. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:16.399 So yeah. Look, he's basically the originator of a lot 0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:21.400 of the Houston culture, especially when it comes to rapping 0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:24.800 about the culture, putting on you know, having him, you know, 0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:27.400 I'm sure he'd be a incredible guest because he can 0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:29.840 give you know, all kind of background history. You know, 0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:31.920 it was it was him. It was him fat patting 0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:35.440 DJ screw started off and then you know, there was 0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:38.920 definitely it was people involved, like you run see what 0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:41.880 to do for sure, those people involved, like in the 0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:44.360 streets like Corey Blunt, who was like a key figure 0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:46.960 where he you know, the cars he was, you know, 0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:48.640 one of the people in the streets making the money. 0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:50.440 So he had his cars right, so it was like 0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:53.440 an inspiration for everyone. You know, the way we do 0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:56.560 our cars now was all of you know, he inspired 0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:59.040 me for show the most. He was my favorite rapper 0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:01.600 still is he the greatest rapper to me still is 0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:04.160 you know, his wordplay, the things he would say, also 0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:06.920 just representing put it on for the for the Houston culture, 0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:09.120 being that he was somebody out looked to. He was 0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:11.520 from where I'm from, from the city I'm from. He 0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:14.279 represented where I'm from, where I looked at him as 0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:18.440 being somebody you know, up high, who who's professional, who 0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:20.359 made it, whose elite? You know what I'm saying. Where 0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:23.240 ship he from where I'm from? Ship that's that's exactly 0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:25.000 who I would want to be. You know, definitely he's 0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:30.000 my favorite, But he didn't answer from side who was 0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:33.160 murder from outside the town inspired, I would say maybe 0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:38.759 b G Um Maybe yeah, how boys? For sure BG 0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:41.160 was my favore. B G and juvenile there was my favorite, 0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:44.960 uh b G for sure. I think because I had 0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:47.600 the best collection, the biggest collection of his music. For 0:46:47.719 --> 0:46:50.960 sure that that was. Even though I maybe didn't pattern 0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:55.240 my rap style off of him, um, he definitely inspired 0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:57.040 me a lot. Just a lot of that too, came 0:46:57.120 --> 0:47:01.399 from the locality of where he You know, any any 0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:05.160 local rapper, they're my favorite rapper Man Snoop Dogg. They 0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:07.640 don't get more local than that. He long Beach Light, 0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:12.200 but he's global, you know, you know any local global, Yeah, 0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:16.319 I understand, But you know, all the local rappers are 0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:18.120 always are my favorite. You know, when you when you 0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:21.960 ascend with your career, they want you to be more 0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:25.760 mainstream so more people can funk with it. But sometimes 0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.160 you lose your local news. But the local rappers are 0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:30.440 always the dopest to me, many my favorite. Now you 0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:32.640 got like the eminem past. Like what I mean by 0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:35.239 that is like you know how most people they will 0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:37.319 be like, oh, logic is dope, But then they'll say, 0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:39.480 logic is dope for a white white boy, you know 0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:41.840 what I'm saying. And then they'll say, uh, you know 0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:44.799 MC searches dope before a white guy. I don't hear 0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:46.600 people say that about you, like I hear people say 0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:49.479 Paul Walls, and I hear people say Eminem is dumpe, 0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:52.400 like like, how does how does that resonate with you? 0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:56.080 I mean, I'm I'm very grateful to people appreciate me 0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:59.400 in any capacity, and they say, are dope for somebody 0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:01.279 to wear a hat? You know? Even that, you know, 0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:04.360 it's like at least they think I'm dope because you know, 0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:07.160 I got bullied, I got picked on. So I'm I'm 0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:15.759 glad I got friends. Now I got my real friends. 0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:18.120 Shout out to my real ones, man, Hey, what's up here? 0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:20.319 Shout out to my boy Perier out there? Google, what's up? Google? 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.560 Ty Fair, all my real ones out there. But you 0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:25.359 know it's funny because we'll think about it, like, well, 0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:27.719 like me and my boys will laugh about that, like 0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:30.160 when they had like the top ten greatest white rappers 0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:32.720 ever and I ain't on the list, Top twenty, top fifty, 0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:34.719 and we'll be like, damn, I know I'm better than 0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:36.879 some of them. But you know, it's like, okay, I said, 0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:38.839 I don't know how we traded you A long time ago. 0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:45.839 I forgot I got traded you for I think Grave 0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:53.880 Brady my man. Yeah, but they hey, but man, you know, 0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:57.480 I don't know. Some of it is like dogs sterling, 0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:00.719 just ting. I don't know. I don't know how I 0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:04.360 should feel being you know, like I never cared. I 0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:06.759 never wanted to be a white rapper. I never wanted that. 0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:09.479 And then growing up in Texas, a lot of times 0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:12.080 people thought I was, especially with a low hit because 0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.480 they like, oh he Hispanic, or he mixed, or Frenchman 0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:21.200 from Louisiana. They is one of the three Frenchman. Yeah yeah, 0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:26.320 but they called him Frenchman. That's what I want to be, 0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:30.480 a Frenchman. I want to be a Frenchman. Mixtape Frenchman. 0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:32.640 I think I think some of that too, being on 0:49:32.719 --> 0:49:36.400 the Switchhouse mixtapes. My voice is slowed. It's pre Internet, 0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:38.680 so you can't google what somebody looked like, so you 0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:40.919 didn't know how what I look like. You hear my music, 0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:43.560 it's already slowed down, so it's already got effects on it, 0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:45.960 so you really didn't know what I will what you know, 0:49:46.040 --> 0:49:48.439 what I looked like. And then I think sometimes people 0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:51.320 make excuses up like that just because to give me 0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:54.239 a pass, like or not here he got to be missing. No, no, no, 0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:57.560 because it's funny. Man. One time I was in Florida, 0:49:57.560 --> 0:50:01.399 had the show and start six nine uh Roy Jones 0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:04.680 Junior Club in Pensacola. Uh And it was like one 0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:07.440 of my first shows, me and come in there, and 0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:09.600 I was at the bar before I'm about to go on. 0:50:10.320 --> 0:50:11.880 It was a sold out show. It was you know, 0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:14.239 it was because we was rocking it back then, just 0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:16.920 even on the mixtape. Sold out show and I'm just 0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:19.200 at the bar getting to drink. Somebody next to me 0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:22.239 say his homeboy, hey man, when I went Paul Walk 0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:23.960 going on, Man, how long we gotta wait till Paul 0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:25.880 Walk going on? I turned to him and said, oh, 0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:28.680 what's up, bro, I'm going like fifteen twenty minutes. He 0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:30.560 looked me up up and down my head like he's 0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:33.080 about to steal off on me. I'm like, oh, you know, 0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:35.279 I'm like whatever, you know, all right, that's what's up? 0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:37.160 And then I left. I'm like whatever. Then after the 0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:39.279 so he came up to me. He was like, damn, 0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:41.239 I didn't know that was you. I mean, I he 0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:42.640 just straight up to him. He's like, man, I don't 0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:47.680 mean no offense, but I hate white people. Man. He 0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:51.399 told me. He was like, I hate the white people. 0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:53.560 He said, so, he said, but really you're my favorite 0:50:53.640 --> 0:50:55.640 rather so when you told me that at the bar, 0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:57.879 I'm like, who then is that? And I'm like, he said, 0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:02.040 then I come on stage, so he told me. He 0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:04.759 told me, I mean, I'm torn between two words like 0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:08.200 I like you because you're my favorite rapper. I hate 0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:10.719 you because you're white. And you know, I'll just that 0:51:10.920 --> 0:51:15.360 just man. It was so whoever that was man, you 0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:17.920 still out there. Man, ain't much love to you. I 0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:24.000 get a discount on the grill. That's some, but you 0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:26.000 know some of it too, man. I just personally, I 0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:29.480 don't like think back. I think because sometimes I see 0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:32.239 white rappers and they'll come to me like man, a 0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:35.480 lot of times, man, you know all man, all the time, 0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:38.439 white rappers come to me for advice on different things. 0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:41.799 You know, uh rappers are always coming, you know, they 0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:43.319 come me to say, how do I be a white rapper? 0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:45.800 I don't want imagine did they say that in so 0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:49.040 many words? You know, it'd be I get asked some 0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:52.480 some questions, it will be I think, how could you 0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:55.200 ask somebody that? Or how could you even think that? Like, 0:51:55.640 --> 0:51:57.759 you know, my advice to anybody you want somebody like 0:51:57.880 --> 0:52:00.200 you just be really yourself because if they don't like you. 0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:04.680 For me and faith, yeah, but so so I mean, 0:52:04.920 --> 0:52:08.320 but it's funny sometimes. But at the same time, I 0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:11.280 don't know, because growing up I had friends of all races. 0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:13.640 For sure, most of my friends were black, but I 0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:15.959 had Asian friends too, had a lot of Messican friends 0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:19.160 or Hispanic. I had friends who were other Dominican other 0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:22.320 things too, were not just mixing but Guatemala, uh you know. So, 0:52:23.000 --> 0:52:25.120 but for sure, most of my friends were for sure black. 0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:27.480 I had some white friends, but the white boys in 0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:29.319 my neighborhood were the ones that would beat me up, 0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:32.840 bullying me. So it was ship. It was, you know, 0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:35.960 that's just how it was for me that coming in there, 0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:37.480 like I grew up coming in my whole life. So 0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:42.000 me and they were friends, you know, since the kindergarten. 0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:44.320 Damn there you know what I'm saying. So you know, 0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:46.680 not only him, but all our friends from that area. 0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:49.719 We all you know, came up together. We are very 0:52:49.800 --> 0:52:51.839 similar and everything we do, you know what I'm saying. 0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:54.719 But and we all had friends of all races. But 0:52:55.360 --> 0:53:00.160 being white sometimes it's like, you know, when they don't 0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:02.279 have me on the list, it'd be funny like ship 0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:04.600 then at the same time, but like, well, that's I 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:07.160 don't want to be seen as a white rapper or 0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:09.520 none of that. I just want people to see me 0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:13.120 for being dope or whatever. But definitely you know, being white, 0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:15.640 being dope for a white rapper or being dope. Are 0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:18.120 you dope for such and such? You dope for a girl? 0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:24.000 You don't do that? Yeah, so I wouldate to Yeah, 0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:26.480 it's uh, you know, I mean, it's good to be 0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:30.480 appreciated to be considered dope, but it's also you could 0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:36.040 be dope, not just for one aspect. Ever had a beef. 0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:38.160 I'm looking at you and I'm thinking, like, you know, 0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:41.080 you're you're always been positive, so I'm thinking like, like, 0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:43.319 I know you don't commit that, but y'all y'all beef 0:53:43.360 --> 0:53:45.200 for a little while. But like it was more it 0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:47.680 was a lyrical it was more like just personal, but 0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:49.400 with him it was real. It was personal because we 0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:51.600 were best friends and then we took separate paths and 0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:54.120 you know, but it's very great. Shout out to pen 0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:56.680 c Man. Pence has had a huge He's a huge 0:53:56.719 --> 0:53:59.799 reason why we reconcile. He talked to us individually. I'll 0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:04.840 also shot to Eforty, the two biggest people it was. 0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:07.640 You know, I mean some of it is like not 0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:10.640 worth talking about because you know, bringing up all ship, 0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:12.880 but you know, it's just we had different views on 0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:15.359 certain things or you know, sometimes money might have been 0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:18.040 involved or whatever. We just it was meant for us 0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:20.160 to take separate paths. So when it was meant for 0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:22.840 that to happen, that happened. And thank you know, thankfully 0:54:22.880 --> 0:54:24.880 we kept it off Wax so that you know what 0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:26.560 I'm saying. You know, some of them this is you 0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:29.120 go back even when you're cool. You're like, damn said 0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:32.480 that about me? God, you know, so uh, you know, 0:54:32.600 --> 0:54:35.240 it's like, man, you know, we thank god, we thankfully, 0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:37.840 thankfully we kept it off Wax. But Eforty was the 0:54:37.920 --> 0:54:40.839 first one to say, man, y'all tripping you know, how 0:54:40.880 --> 0:54:42.960 much money y'all can make and by the time you 0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:45.600 realize that that opportunity is gonna be gone, nobody's gonna 0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:47.160 care no more, or they're gonna be on to the 0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:49.360 next or something like the forties. Always tell us man, 0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:52.400 because Eforty fused with both of us, he gave us 0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:55.160 both advice. We was cool anyway, we was friends, but 0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:57.160 he was like a effort for sure. It was a 0:54:57.239 --> 0:55:00.960 big mentor in the game. But specific league, Man, you 0:55:01.120 --> 0:55:03.520 and Commed are tripping. Then pm C said it too, 0:55:03.600 --> 0:55:08.759 it's like legends. And then pm C like he came 0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:11.440 to he spoke individually to both of us, Man, what's 0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:14.400 up with you? Commed there, man, what's the problem. Okay, 0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:19.040 you're tripping? He tripping to funk that y'all making y'all tripping? 0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:21.439 His money out there, y'all can be making all this money. 0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:24.080 Y'all ain't got to get along, e man. Before they 0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:25.799 I don't know if they talked before they talked to us, 0:55:25.880 --> 0:55:28.040 but they both told us the same. You know, it 0:55:28.160 --> 0:55:31.239 was like man. And then when he put us in 0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:34.239 the song Knocking Doors Down, he shot us out. Then 0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:37.520 even before that, you know, the public will come, what's 0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:38.920 up with your COMMUNI it, what's up with you? Commit? 0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:41.320 What's up with you? Comman? It's cool whatever. Then eventually 0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:44.480 sometimes people will the public will die down, like we 0:55:44.600 --> 0:55:46.680 always to touch yourselfject if don't ask him about that, 0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:48.560 even when it ain't touch yourself, you no more. And 0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:50.359 still they'd be like, oh, I don't respect, I don't 0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:52.320 want to ask you about this or that. You know. 0:55:52.440 --> 0:55:55.359 But then you know, pm C put us in the verse. 0:55:55.760 --> 0:56:03.200 Everybody he said commit still eight talking oh money speak 0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:05.839 out that boys keep walking. He basically caught out all 0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:08.560 the Houston rappers saying, y'all tripping with each other were 0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:11.080 beef and we need to come together. But he say uh. 0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:16.880 When he said that, then every all the public say damn, man, 0:56:16.960 --> 0:56:19.680 what you're gonna do? Damn and everybody like it's like 0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:21.920 it made it cool to come talk to us about it. 0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:23.759 And then it was and it really forced us to 0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:28.440 come together. And especially when PIMPS passed away, it was like, hey, 0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:30.160 we gotta do this for pim C. Man. You know 0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:32.600 you know it's it's for pim C. You know for 0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:34.920 sure that he had It was a huge reason why 0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:37.640 we came back together. Squad stuff B and we used 0:56:37.640 --> 0:56:42.560 to pimp let us um and jail. You wasn't You 0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:46.840 wasn't yet I was. That was kind of like it 0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:49.279 was like during my attension, you know what I'm saying. 0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:51.200 And then there's different levels. There's you know, you could 0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:52.400 be a one hit one, that you could be an 0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:55.560 underground mixtape, you know. Person Once you get on the 0:56:55.640 --> 0:56:58.200 radio is different. Once you're on TV and the magazines 0:56:58.360 --> 0:57:01.840 is real different. And it's an era before the Internet, 0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:06.080 before smartphones and ship. So you know, you didn't you 0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:09.920 couldn't find out about other artists unless it was put 0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:12.279 in front of your face, you know, unless you go 0:57:12.400 --> 0:57:14.879 to that CD and go to a record store. You know, ship. 0:57:14.960 --> 0:57:17.440 The only way you hear it is if if they 0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:19.920 played on the radio, which is somebody else controlling, or 0:57:19.960 --> 0:57:22.680 they played on TV, which is somebody else controlling, or 0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:26.040 there's it ship. You know, you it's tough to hear 0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:28.760 about you guys. Address and just said let me just 0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:33.400 addresses man, big bro who to dude. She're a big 0:57:33.480 --> 0:57:35.800 fan of course. And at that time too, you know, 0:57:35.880 --> 0:57:38.080 I was, I was already making a name for myself 0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:40.400 with Switchhouse, and then some of it too is you 0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:43.000 know when you say somebody, Hey, free pm C. You' 0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:45.040 say it on a rap. You know you ain't trying 0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:47.280 to be like false claiming saying that you know. Some 0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:49.560 of it yeah, you know, and some of it is 0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:52.520 people who they reached like a motherfucker. So it's like, 0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:56.160 if I don't know him, it's better to say, man, 0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:58.320 I ain't never met PIMC, but free him. I love him. 0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:00.959 But if you act like, oh, that's my PENC, free PC, 0:58:01.120 --> 0:58:02.440 but you ain't never met him, it's like, what are 0:58:02.440 --> 0:58:04.680 you faking like a motherfucker? So you know some of 0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:07.800 that too, is you know, is how can I represent 0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:10.360 hold it down for him out here while he locked up, 0:58:10.440 --> 0:58:13.160 and communicate with him so that I can't represent, you know, 0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:15.080 not like I'm speaking for him and spokes for something 0:58:15.120 --> 0:58:17.200 like that, but just at least to communicate let him 0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:18.960 know that we're holding it down for yet. If you 0:58:19.040 --> 0:58:22.120 need something from any of whatever, we ship whatever here 0:58:22.480 --> 0:58:24.080 and it's you know, it's funny, you know. The type 0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:25.640 of advice he would give me would be like with 0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:27.760 messing with girls on the road, a man, she strap 0:58:27.880 --> 0:58:30.880 up them host dirty, you know, she like they don't 0:58:30.960 --> 0:58:32.520 leave your money out in your pockets they're gonna go 0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:34.720 through your pockets when you were taking a shower, watch out, 0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:37.000 you know, ship like that, Like but that's real talk. 0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:39.680 Like you know, I ain't got you know, I ain't 0:58:39.680 --> 0:58:41.280 had to lose the role legs to learn that lesson. 0:58:41.320 --> 0:58:43.600 You know what I'm saying, Ship, you tell you for 0:58:44.600 --> 0:58:46.920 I'm not a smoker. What are you smoking? Without smoking? 0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:54.680 I smoke backwards and these these papers not they're not 0:58:54.800 --> 0:58:57.480 lighting up these you gotta show. That's why I said, Man, 0:58:57.520 --> 0:58:59.320 I feel like a new ship like you just lighting 0:58:59.360 --> 0:59:07.600 in the smoke just hit you. He's killing Now what 0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:12.040 the fund comion there invested that? Now? They is the man? 0:59:13.920 --> 0:59:17.040 I don't know, but put your boy down man on it. 0:59:18.440 --> 0:59:23.880 We need to told me he invested in lift. Somebody 0:59:24.080 --> 0:59:27.400 told me, yeah he Somebody told me he's with a 0:59:27.520 --> 0:59:31.040 hedge fund or something. That's you know. Anytime I talked 0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:32.760 to him, abody he telling me he's doing he's doing 0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:39.240 something involving a hedge fun. Yeah, they take your money, 0:59:39.280 --> 0:59:41.560 they invest in a bunch of ship. Yeah, what are 0:59:41.600 --> 0:59:44.800 you doing? I don't know. I'm going to get in 0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:48.280 on it, but I don't know what he's doing. But 0:59:48.440 --> 0:59:51.000 it's working for him because and he always tell me, man, 0:59:51.000 --> 0:59:53.720 I ain't retired, but what am I gonna do for 0:59:53.800 --> 0:59:55.880 other than for the love? So he'll still do verses 0:59:55.920 --> 0:59:57.480 like he did the verse for me on Swinging in 0:59:57.480 --> 0:59:59.920 the Rain remix. Anytime I ever asked him to do 1:00:00.160 --> 1:00:01.800 verse for me, you always did it. And you know, 1:00:02.080 --> 1:00:05.760 but for sure, you know, I'm sorry I pay. A 1:00:05.800 --> 1:00:08.080 lot of it is you just gotta let it go. 1:00:08.320 --> 1:00:09.880 If we bring it up and talk about it, we're 1:00:09.880 --> 1:00:12.920 gonna fight, We're gonna argue. We've got different opinions, perspective, 1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:15.400 we might both be right on whatever we're saying. But 1:00:15.880 --> 1:00:18.520 a lot of it is, hey, we went through what 1:00:18.680 --> 1:00:20.840 we went through this the past. God let us on. 1:00:21.320 --> 1:00:23.040 Now we're here. What we're gonna do about it. We're 1:00:23.040 --> 1:00:25.440 gonna go forward with this, be positive about this. So 1:00:25.520 --> 1:00:27.760 we're gonna you know, And then some of it, too, 1:00:27.960 --> 1:00:32.080 is taking the responsibility of publicly beefing with someone else 1:00:32.440 --> 1:00:34.960 from your city like that, like you know it. It 1:00:35.760 --> 1:00:38.040 just sends more of a message that this is how 1:00:38.160 --> 1:00:40.480 to make it. Like people think, oh, if I troll you, 1:00:40.600 --> 1:00:42.840 you will respond, because if I compliment you, you're not 1:00:42.880 --> 1:00:45.000 gonna respond. And whatever they can do to get a 1:00:45.080 --> 1:00:48.760 response is cool because no one's they're getting overlooked. So 1:00:48.840 --> 1:00:51.000 it's whatever they can do to get some type of attention. 1:00:51.080 --> 1:00:53.600 So I don't know, you know, I think a lot 1:00:53.640 --> 1:00:56.160 of it is just letting it go and you know, 1:00:56.280 --> 1:00:58.600 appreciating the fact that God took us, like I said, 1:00:58.680 --> 1:01:00.400 brought us through things to make us who we are. 1:01:00.960 --> 1:01:03.600 And you know, I apologize for my own he apologift 1:01:03.680 --> 1:01:06.160 here or whatever, even if we ain't wrong. Man, look 1:01:06.240 --> 1:01:08.440 we we saw. Man, Let's make it work and then 1:01:08.480 --> 1:01:10.800 should go from there. Where was you at when you 1:01:10.840 --> 1:01:13.440 found out Bush with Bills? Because I know he had 1:01:13.440 --> 1:01:16.240 to be a legend to you as well. Man, I 1:01:16.320 --> 1:01:18.280 got crazy a couple of crazy stories about Bush with 1:01:18.400 --> 1:01:20.720 Bill just in dealing with him. Man, I got a man. 1:01:22.840 --> 1:01:28.640 Yeah he was, Man. I remember I met him. I 1:01:28.720 --> 1:01:30.760 was like twelve years old. This is like the first 1:01:30.800 --> 1:01:32.560 time I ever flew on the plane. It was in 1:01:32.640 --> 1:01:35.360 the airport around like one o'clock, I don't know, two 1:01:35.400 --> 1:01:38.080 o'clock noon. I don't even remember this because I met 1:01:38.160 --> 1:01:40.080 Bush Foo Bill and it was the first time I 1:01:40.160 --> 1:01:42.680 ever flew you know. So I'm a kid, so I'm like, 1:01:42.720 --> 1:01:46.040 I remember a lot of that you know, and so anyway, 1:01:46.200 --> 1:01:49.960 I mean in Houston Airport, Hobby Airport, Um, some of 1:01:50.040 --> 1:01:51.840 these too. I know from fact checking with my mom. 1:01:51.920 --> 1:01:53.840 Hey mom, who was that? Oh that was Hobby. Yeah, 1:01:53.840 --> 1:01:55.920 I remember the extrememember. She knew Bush will be there too. 1:01:56.120 --> 1:01:58.680 So anyway we we. I see him in a uh 1:01:59.600 --> 1:02:02.840 I'm I'm a kid, my mama doing something. My twel 1:02:02.880 --> 1:02:04.880 years old, so I'm, you know, almost a teenager. I 1:02:04.960 --> 1:02:07.800 see him sitting there with a bunch of luggage around him, 1:02:08.760 --> 1:02:11.000 in like a lounge area of a restaurant, just like 1:02:11.440 --> 1:02:14.760 you know, a restaurant whatever, just sitting there with a 1:02:14.800 --> 1:02:18.400 bunch of luggage and knocked out off top. I recognized him, 1:02:18.400 --> 1:02:20.480 but he's by himself. I'm like this bushell bill, Why 1:02:20.520 --> 1:02:23.040 ain't got a security rapple out mab with him? Everybody like, 1:02:23.080 --> 1:02:25.720 why are you by myself? I'm like them, Should I 1:02:25.720 --> 1:02:28.040 go talk to him? Count talk to him? Man? What's up? 1:02:28.360 --> 1:02:30.080 So I just said I'm gonna go talk to me 1:02:30.120 --> 1:02:32.280 and knocked out, passed out in a chair and I 1:02:32.400 --> 1:02:36.000 just go to him, shaking tam. You know, I looked 1:02:36.040 --> 1:02:37.760 back and I you know, I had I had an 1:02:37.760 --> 1:02:40.040 opportunity to telling me the story too before he passed away, 1:02:40.120 --> 1:02:44.520 you know. And but uh, you know, looking back, I realized, man, 1:02:44.680 --> 1:02:47.840 you know, now I'm a kid. I ain't know. People 1:02:47.880 --> 1:02:50.080 need their space, you know. I'm like, damn, I was mad, 1:02:50.200 --> 1:02:52.600 just respectful, like coming up to waking on about to sleep, 1:02:52.960 --> 1:02:56.600 talking to him, but why and he like, or what's up? 1:02:56.680 --> 1:02:58.800 He wake up? Get up? Like what's going on? And 1:02:58.880 --> 1:03:02.240 I'm like, and I'm what's up? Man? You Bill You're like, yeah, man, man, 1:03:02.280 --> 1:03:04.120 that's what's something. Nice to meet you man. And I'm 1:03:04.160 --> 1:03:06.560 just asking them like a kid questions. You ain't even 1:03:06.560 --> 1:03:14.440 asked for Instagram before. But I think I might have 1:03:14.560 --> 1:03:16.959 did get his autograph, and if I did, I still 1:03:17.080 --> 1:03:19.440 have it because I have. I got Big Boys autographed 1:03:19.480 --> 1:03:21.120 to one time. I see, I got a story out 1:03:21.160 --> 1:03:25.280 to them. Okay, but yeah, but I met uh, I'm 1:03:25.320 --> 1:03:29.200 a man man. Yeah. But anyway, I'm a big fan 1:03:29.280 --> 1:03:31.440 of hip hop, especially back then. If someone would come 1:03:31.440 --> 1:03:33.040 to concert, it could be somebody I've never heard of, 1:03:33.400 --> 1:03:36.080 and I'll go I'm too young, just to see what 1:03:36.160 --> 1:03:38.680 they're looking like walking into the club or whatever, or 1:03:38.960 --> 1:03:40.640 see if I can meet him. You know, I never 1:03:40.680 --> 1:03:42.480 heard them just because it was hip hop. To me, 1:03:42.560 --> 1:03:45.600 it was dope. But anyway, uh, butcher Bill. I started 1:03:45.640 --> 1:03:47.760 talking to him and I'm like, you know whatever, having 1:03:47.840 --> 1:03:50.960 a kid conversation. Eventually I realized, like, I'm kind of 1:03:51.040 --> 1:03:54.200 tripping right now, man, and I'm thinking eventually people are 1:03:54.200 --> 1:03:55.720 gonna come back and they're gonna be like, what the 1:03:55.880 --> 1:03:57.560 are you doing? Talk? You know, you gotta go. So 1:03:57.680 --> 1:04:00.120 I was like, damn, all right, bush Man, I'm ill 1:04:00.200 --> 1:04:01.640 let you and I left, you know, And I was 1:04:01.720 --> 1:04:04.760 there and okay then when I work, you know, and 1:04:04.840 --> 1:04:08.120 it was just a great positive interaction. But I thought 1:04:08.160 --> 1:04:11.400 that's how all rappers were. They want to talk to 1:04:11.480 --> 1:04:13.240 you whatever they'll work up about. They I'll just sleep 1:04:13.280 --> 1:04:15.280 to talk to you. So then I'll go to the 1:04:17.800 --> 1:04:19.680 later on in life when I'm working for Death Jam. 1:04:20.280 --> 1:04:23.640 It was an artist that I'm promoting the hardest funk 1:04:23.680 --> 1:04:27.440 for bringing his records to the DJ's, putting his posters up, 1:04:27.480 --> 1:04:30.720 passing his flies out. He come to town. I try 1:04:30.760 --> 1:04:32.720 to highlight him, thinking he's gonna be bush with cool 1:04:32.760 --> 1:04:35.200 ast fun, thinking he knows what I'm doing for him. 1:04:35.760 --> 1:04:38.840 He was rude as fun like man. It was a 1:04:38.960 --> 1:04:43.600 complete opposite interaction. Is what was Bush With? And it 1:04:43.720 --> 1:04:46.000 was like, damn, you don't know. I'm working my ass 1:04:46.000 --> 1:04:49.600 out for you. You won't he ain't even rapping. I 1:04:49.680 --> 1:04:51.800 don't even remember what. I'm sure if I go back 1:04:51.840 --> 1:04:53.680 to whatever year it was, I can think back the 1:04:54.040 --> 1:04:55.960 and ex off the list. It wasn't him wonting him 1:04:55.960 --> 1:04:58.080 on him. Okay, it was him, but whoever it is, 1:04:58.120 --> 1:05:00.720 he ain't rapping no more. But then that that led 1:05:00.800 --> 1:05:02.800 me to be the people's champ because I'm like, I 1:05:02.880 --> 1:05:05.160 want to be like bush With. I want my interaction 1:05:05.200 --> 1:05:07.440 to be positive. When someone walk away from seeing me, 1:05:07.560 --> 1:05:10.440 they like, damn, they got smile on, They're facing, They're like, man, 1:05:10.480 --> 1:05:13.040 I'm I'm at Paul. That's real. Then he cool as fuck. 1:05:13.360 --> 1:05:15.680 I don't want it to be man, fuck him. I 1:05:15.720 --> 1:05:17.680 ain't never listen to his music again. I should have 1:05:17.720 --> 1:05:20.000 stole off on him. Damn, man, I'm gonna go at 1:05:20.040 --> 1:05:22.320 him on a song like That's how people be like you, man, 1:05:22.360 --> 1:05:23.960 you shoot on people like that. So I'm like, man, 1:05:24.000 --> 1:05:26.280 I want to be more like bush With. Now let 1:05:26.320 --> 1:05:28.640 me tell you when I'm made a big boy. It 1:05:28.760 --> 1:05:31.200 was like a few years later, maybe like I might 1:05:31.240 --> 1:05:33.080 have been still a kid I was still a kid. 1:05:33.760 --> 1:05:36.120 I might have been like I might have been like 1:05:36.200 --> 1:05:39.160 sixteen seventeen. So it was around the same time as 1:05:39.200 --> 1:05:41.439 I was working for De jim Me and come in there. 1:05:41.880 --> 1:05:45.000 It was like, well, we was just old enough to drive, 1:05:45.080 --> 1:05:47.840 but we ain't had a car. So they had a 1:05:47.960 --> 1:05:54.520 concert come through Houston and it was outcast I believe 1:05:54.600 --> 1:05:59.080 it was Air Cobato and it was The Roots and 1:05:59.480 --> 1:06:04.080 Cypress I believe, yeah, it was. It was Ship. It 1:06:04.240 --> 1:06:06.320 was crazy, but it was at the time when all 1:06:06.360 --> 1:06:08.520 of them were new artists too, so it was like 1:06:08.640 --> 1:06:10.480 quest Love opened up that I mean on that question, 1:06:10.520 --> 1:06:12.360 Love or the Roots. I met quest Love there too. 1:06:12.600 --> 1:06:14.600 He was cool as too. He's just standing at the 1:06:15.120 --> 1:06:17.000 you know, one of the Witch Boost and I'm going 1:06:17.080 --> 1:06:19.120 up to him like, oh ship that you want to say, 1:06:20.400 --> 1:06:23.120 then that's crazy that I'm going back. Me and community, Okay, 1:06:23.360 --> 1:06:25.720 Me and comedy was at the show. We're sitting at 1:06:25.760 --> 1:06:31.880 the the Okay. It's the center of Mitchell Woodlands Pavilion 1:06:32.160 --> 1:06:34.480 where it's outdoor pavilion. They got a lot of these 1:06:34.560 --> 1:06:36.480 all on the country, not the same name, but they 1:06:36.560 --> 1:06:39.680 got these type of venues where they got like front 1:06:39.800 --> 1:06:43.120 row seating and then they got like lawn seating in 1:06:43.160 --> 1:06:46.160 the back grass. Okay, so it'd be like it'd be 1:06:46.240 --> 1:06:49.959 like a chair seating, and then it was a walk 1:06:50.000 --> 1:06:52.680 away and then it was like a six foot up 1:06:52.960 --> 1:06:56.160 chaired seating. So me and then behind that was all 1:06:56.240 --> 1:06:58.520 the grass. Okay. So me and Coming that's sit in 1:06:58.560 --> 1:07:02.400 the front row or the back chairs. So where the 1:07:02.440 --> 1:07:04.280 walkaway is in front of us, we're bouty like six 1:07:04.320 --> 1:07:06.160 ft up, eight feet up, but we're at the edge 1:07:06.200 --> 1:07:09.960 front row. So people walking so outcast before and they 1:07:10.000 --> 1:07:13.320 get off stage and they walked, they walked through h 1:07:13.440 --> 1:07:15.520 I see a big boy of walking and I'm like, 1:07:15.760 --> 1:07:17.640 he's walking with two security guards. I'm like, oh, ship, 1:07:17.680 --> 1:07:19.640 come in there. They'll go, big boy, damn, what's man? 1:07:19.680 --> 1:07:21.080 We gotta stop and we gotta like what are we 1:07:21.160 --> 1:07:23.680 gonna do? We way up here where like we gonna 1:07:24.160 --> 1:07:27.520 racing time. And also me and Coming are very different 1:07:27.680 --> 1:07:31.360 in these perspectives. Comed There has more of a Houston 1:07:31.440 --> 1:07:34.880 mind frame when it comes to celebrities and especially rappers. 1:07:35.400 --> 1:07:37.520 And this is the mind frame. I ain't gonna be 1:07:37.600 --> 1:07:39.919 on his dick. I like them, but I'm not gonna 1:07:39.960 --> 1:07:43.640 ride his nuts. So that's like Ship the Houston mind 1:07:43.680 --> 1:07:45.760 frame would be a sold out show. Everybody mean mugging you. 1:07:45.840 --> 1:07:47.600 But they love you, but they just mean they don't 1:07:47.640 --> 1:07:49.600 want you to know they love you because they want 1:07:49.640 --> 1:07:52.120 to be embarrassed. So you know, they whatever, they don't 1:07:52.120 --> 1:07:53.840 want you to thinking they're on their nut. So I'm 1:07:53.880 --> 1:07:56.120 more of a man. I love that person. Let me 1:07:56.200 --> 1:07:58.080 go tell them I love them, you know. Come in 1:07:58.200 --> 1:07:59.560 is like, yeah, I love them too, but I ain't 1:07:59.560 --> 1:08:02.120 gonna be on. So we're sitting there and don't we 1:08:02.280 --> 1:08:04.760 like just sit on the front row. But I'm like, man, 1:08:04.800 --> 1:08:06.439 come in a big boy or whatever, you know whatever. 1:08:06.960 --> 1:08:09.440 Man I said, fucking I gotta go. I gotta say 1:08:09.480 --> 1:08:11.920 what's up. I just hop down, jump over the thing, 1:08:12.360 --> 1:08:14.240 just like I'm running from the cops. Jump over the fence. 1:08:14.360 --> 1:08:16.599 I hoped down, jump down by the six eight feet 1:08:16.760 --> 1:08:19.679 I land takes me down. Him and his bodyguards was like, WHOA, 1:08:19.880 --> 1:08:22.360 what's going on? What's going on? I'm still like somewhat 1:08:22.360 --> 1:08:24.559 of a kid. You can tell. I was like fifteen sixteen, 1:08:24.640 --> 1:08:27.439 so I might have looked adult tish, you know, I 1:08:27.520 --> 1:08:29.519 might have had like a little baby whisker mustache. But 1:08:29.640 --> 1:08:32.160 they can still tell them young, like I ain't gonna 1:08:32.200 --> 1:08:34.120 come up like fight him or nothing like that. But 1:08:34.360 --> 1:08:36.760 and they're like, what's going on, Like, man, big boy, MA, 1:08:36.800 --> 1:08:38.320 I'm a fan. I'm just a fan, my fan, I'm 1:08:38.320 --> 1:08:40.360 a fan. Well, you know, can can you take can 1:08:40.360 --> 1:08:42.000 you sign something? He signed something for me? I still 1:08:42.080 --> 1:08:45.439 got that autograph to this day too. Uh, I said 1:08:45.479 --> 1:08:47.439 I would collect things like that. Like that's what I'm saying. 1:08:47.439 --> 1:08:49.439 I can't remember specifically now that you know, I for 1:08:49.479 --> 1:08:51.200 sure I got to go back and tell bush With. 1:08:51.439 --> 1:08:53.680 I mean, I go, I gotta go see uh if 1:08:53.720 --> 1:08:55.679 I got that bush With autograph, I think I still 1:08:55.760 --> 1:08:57.479 doing it because I think it was on like a napkin. 1:08:58.200 --> 1:09:00.040 But in anyway, I know a big boy signed in 1:09:00.080 --> 1:09:03.360 the actual ticket I still got there. But anyway, that 1:09:03.520 --> 1:09:05.799 was my big Boys story. But going back to Bushwick, 1:09:06.280 --> 1:09:09.880 when I saw Bushwick, I mean later on, and I 1:09:09.960 --> 1:09:11.599 see him all the time, like I would see him 1:09:11.600 --> 1:09:13.920 at shows. We were you know, sometimes we performed together 1:09:14.160 --> 1:09:16.080 and we'd be kicking the backstage, chommling it up. He 1:09:16.200 --> 1:09:18.200 also has a son always I connected with for a 1:09:18.280 --> 1:09:20.680 while me and was was always real cool. We still 1:09:20.720 --> 1:09:22.720 you know still all but like over the years, you 1:09:22.720 --> 1:09:24.400 know what I'm saying. So I got to know him 1:09:24.800 --> 1:09:26.880 and his son, you know whatever through the years. But 1:09:27.040 --> 1:09:28.920 more recently when it came out that you know, he 1:09:29.040 --> 1:09:32.439 had stage for pancreatic cancer, that was kind of like where, 1:09:33.200 --> 1:09:35.040 you know, they kind of did like a kind of 1:09:35.400 --> 1:09:37.519 call to action, you know, you fun with Bush with 1:09:37.840 --> 1:09:39.800 kind of let him know because clock kind of kicking, 1:09:39.800 --> 1:09:41.120 you know what I'm saying. So it was like one 1:09:41.120 --> 1:09:42.920 of the things where you know, I was, you know, 1:09:43.040 --> 1:09:44.960 for sure restopped just to tell him, man, how much 1:09:45.000 --> 1:09:46.680 you know, I appreciate him, you know whatever. I love 1:09:46.760 --> 1:09:48.720 for him, and we always you know, we had a 1:09:49.160 --> 1:09:50.559 you know, we had a you know, I always had 1:09:50.560 --> 1:09:53.040 a great connection over the years. But then he told me, 1:09:53.160 --> 1:09:54.679 was like, hey, I'm working on the album. It's gonna 1:09:54.720 --> 1:09:58.000 be basically my my last solo album, you know, you 1:09:58.080 --> 1:10:00.200 know whatever. You know, you don't really want want to 1:10:00.200 --> 1:10:01.439 say it like that at the time, but it's kind 1:10:01.439 --> 1:10:02.760 of like how he was saying, like, you know, I'm 1:10:03.040 --> 1:10:06.200 doing another solo album is basically gonna be you know, 1:10:06.479 --> 1:10:08.120 is it? You know you're down to get on it. 1:10:08.479 --> 1:10:11.320 Of course I'm gonna get on I'm a professional rapper. 1:10:11.520 --> 1:10:15.040 And its icon legend, somebody I look up to inspire 1:10:15.120 --> 1:10:18.760 me from my very first interaction with a rapper of him, 1:10:19.040 --> 1:10:21.200 me wanting to be like him, to be a people's champ. 1:10:21.280 --> 1:10:23.760 So of course I don't get on there. So you know, 1:10:23.840 --> 1:10:25.320 I went to the studio with him, got to kick 1:10:25.520 --> 1:10:27.439 you know, chopping up with him, and really you know, 1:10:27.760 --> 1:10:29.120 you know, I did my verse. It was cool that, 1:10:29.360 --> 1:10:31.920 you know, I actually did two songs. But you know, 1:10:32.720 --> 1:10:34.760 I'm kind of quick in the studio, so I did 1:10:34.800 --> 1:10:37.400 my thing. That's cool. But after that, we just chopping 1:10:37.439 --> 1:10:39.720 it up for hours upon hours, you know, And like 1:10:39.800 --> 1:10:41.840 I said, you know, he's somebody I've known throughout the years, 1:10:41.920 --> 1:10:44.559 but are it would be we backstage at the concert, 1:10:44.640 --> 1:10:45.960 so we still it might be chopping it up for 1:10:45.960 --> 1:10:48.080 a couple of hours, you know, getting ready to go on. 1:10:48.280 --> 1:10:50.559 But it's a group satting kind of you know as 1:10:50.600 --> 1:10:53.320 a party atmosphere. So this's like real intimate want to 1:10:53.400 --> 1:10:54.880 you know, just me and him, you know, his son, 1:10:55.000 --> 1:10:56.920 a couple of other people, to engineer, a couple of people. 1:10:56.960 --> 1:10:59.000 You know, he just in there just chopping it up, 1:10:59.040 --> 1:11:01.120 talking about all kind of it is. And I got 1:11:01.200 --> 1:11:04.599 to tell him, you know, before I went to the studio, 1:11:04.640 --> 1:11:07.200 I told my mama, said, Mama, gets on going the studio. 1:11:07.680 --> 1:11:10.800 Bush Bill, No, man, for real? You member when you 1:11:10.840 --> 1:11:14.240 met him in the airport. I'm like, hey, that's my man. 1:11:14.280 --> 1:11:15.560 When I'm trying to figure out to get like a 1:11:15.600 --> 1:11:17.240 real win. Was that you remember? That was? She kind 1:11:17.280 --> 1:11:19.040 of tell me when it was, that's when we did this, 1:11:19.080 --> 1:11:20.680 and that that's the first time he flew. I kind 1:11:20.680 --> 1:11:22.400 of you know, so it kind of you know, we 1:11:22.479 --> 1:11:25.200 remember that kind of thing. So when I I told 1:11:25.240 --> 1:11:26.960 b I said, Bushell, I'm gonna tell your story. Man, 1:11:27.040 --> 1:11:31.439 I tell him a story. Shout out to Bushoo, Man, 1:11:31.840 --> 1:11:34.360 I tell him a story. He say, I said, bush, 1:11:34.560 --> 1:11:36.160 I met you when I was twelve. He say, all 1:11:36.200 --> 1:11:38.679 the way there, I tell my whole story. Say, oh, yeah, 1:11:38.760 --> 1:11:41.360 that was the Resurrection tour or whatever tour. Yeah, it 1:11:41.439 --> 1:11:44.120 was a hippy airport in the summer. Yeah I remember that. 1:11:44.479 --> 1:11:47.400 You said, uh, were you wearing summer clothes? And I'm like, 1:11:48.840 --> 1:11:51.280 remember that? But he said, yeah, I remember. So I 1:11:51.320 --> 1:11:52.760 don't know what that was you, but I remember meeting 1:11:52.760 --> 1:11:55.800 the youth in the airport in the We're in summer clothes, 1:11:56.000 --> 1:11:58.439 you know. Was that you I'm like, man, you remember that. 1:11:58.560 --> 1:12:00.640 That's crazy? But no, I don't know he really did 1:12:00.760 --> 1:12:02.280 remember that, or he was just kind of putting on. 1:12:02.720 --> 1:12:06.400 But still, you know, I definitely, you know, I'm glad 1:12:06.439 --> 1:12:08.120 I got to share that with him, to let him 1:12:08.160 --> 1:12:11.679 know how much you know, he said, hold on, let's 1:12:12.760 --> 1:12:14.800 let's all give let's all give him a moment the size, 1:12:21.160 --> 1:12:25.639 what's the piece push with bills? Definitely that most people 1:12:26.360 --> 1:12:28.439 that most people I see what grills when they smoke 1:12:28.560 --> 1:12:31.120 or they eat, they take the grills off. You don't. 1:12:31.200 --> 1:12:33.160 You don't take the grill off when you smoke or eat. 1:12:33.280 --> 1:12:35.400 I mean when you when you're on the jo I 1:12:35.439 --> 1:12:37.080 get to cheat. I can cheat, you know what I'm saying. 1:12:37.120 --> 1:12:40.800 I got the jewry stoy. So so why why don't 1:12:40.800 --> 1:12:42.720 people do that? What is it messing up or something? Well? 1:12:42.720 --> 1:12:44.920 Think about it. You got you know, your chain right there, 1:12:45.360 --> 1:12:47.040 and you you got to eat. Let's get you know, 1:12:47.080 --> 1:12:50.559 we're getting designing. You ain't gonna dipping in with design exactly. 1:12:50.560 --> 1:12:52.320 And you gotta let me get a coffee, dipping in 1:12:52.360 --> 1:12:54.519 the coffee. Let me get a milkshake, dipping in the milkshade. 1:12:54.560 --> 1:12:57.200 Let me eat a hamburger. Or whatever, let me whatever, 1:12:57.200 --> 1:13:00.400 you know. So it's like you think about you don't 1:13:00.600 --> 1:13:03.439 you wouldn't do that with that. It's grills, it's your teeth. 1:13:03.479 --> 1:13:07.120 But it's still precious metal and jewels, so you know, 1:13:07.240 --> 1:13:10.360 you gotta some of it comes with, especially the smoking. 1:13:10.760 --> 1:13:13.400 It will tarnish the metal, making, you know, change the 1:13:13.439 --> 1:13:15.120 color a little bit. Well, when you buff it out, 1:13:15.160 --> 1:13:18.400 it's brand new, back to new. Uh and in different 1:13:18.520 --> 1:13:21.400 qualities of the gold will get dirty, quicker, same munch 1:13:21.439 --> 1:13:24.799 of diamonds, you know. So when you gotta hire Caret gold, 1:13:25.240 --> 1:13:27.720 you can smoke. It's not a big deal. But you know, 1:13:27.880 --> 1:13:31.840 just it's just properly grill care um Me, I don't 1:13:31.920 --> 1:13:34.120 you know, you know whatever, I don't really tend to 1:13:34.160 --> 1:13:36.599 take my grill out too much. You know. I'm actually 1:13:36.640 --> 1:13:38.479 about to get some I'm about to go permanent on 1:13:38.560 --> 1:13:43.120 there and get some get something new. Obviously those the 1:13:43.160 --> 1:13:46.800 ones that don't come out. Yeah. So, um so, is 1:13:46.840 --> 1:13:50.120 there a difference between regular gold and dental gold, Well, 1:13:50.160 --> 1:13:52.479 the dental gold, I think when they say that they 1:13:52.560 --> 1:13:55.479 mean like the higher quality of the carrotter gold. So 1:13:56.400 --> 1:14:00.479 typically there's like ten care Ago, four teen Carego eighteen 1:14:00.520 --> 1:14:04.680 care ago. Now there's twenty two care ago, sometimes four 1:14:04.800 --> 1:14:06.880 care ago. Bruno Mars made a song about it. So, 1:14:07.280 --> 1:14:10.320 but when you go to buy jewelry, it's typically tin 1:14:10.439 --> 1:14:13.160 carrot spoorteen care or eighteen care, eighteen care being a 1:14:13.360 --> 1:14:16.679 higher care of being the best. But also it's boys 1:14:16.720 --> 1:14:19.320 whipping that gold up. Man. Boys are whipped that gold 1:14:19.400 --> 1:14:23.320 up with silver some other things. You tested, it'll be 1:14:23.560 --> 1:14:28.120 six carried goal or whatever, and they'll dip it to 1:14:28.320 --> 1:14:31.000 look like eighteen caret or dip it. I actually got 1:14:31.040 --> 1:14:33.360 a song called what they tell will called eighteen care 1:14:33.479 --> 1:14:35.880 go no deal because boys will get tin cared and 1:14:35.960 --> 1:14:39.599 then dip it to look like eighteen carret or fourteen 1:14:39.680 --> 1:14:46.519 care ago. And yeah, but yeah, it's uh but I 1:14:46.600 --> 1:14:48.160 think I think, you know, I don't know. I could 1:14:48.200 --> 1:14:50.080 be wrong, but I think when with the dental goal, 1:14:50.120 --> 1:14:52.880 what they mean is a two care or order higher 1:14:53.160 --> 1:14:55.680 higher care, but which is usually I think eighteen care. 1:14:56.240 --> 1:14:58.200 All the dentists I know to use the eighteen care ship. 1:14:58.320 --> 1:15:00.120 We do the goals for all the dentists and is 1:15:00.160 --> 1:15:04.760 eighteen carre. Uh. That's that's actually how Johnny start, how 1:15:04.840 --> 1:15:07.840 he started with the grills, was he was already doing 1:15:07.920 --> 1:15:12.200 drewelry repair, already doing a few custom things like for 1:15:12.640 --> 1:15:15.760 Drewry stores, not for customers, but for Drewry stores. So 1:15:16.200 --> 1:15:18.479 then it got to be the dentists would come to 1:15:18.840 --> 1:15:20.479 a I'm making you know, I need you to make 1:15:20.560 --> 1:15:23.960 these gold teeth for a customer who was getting them permanent. 1:15:24.280 --> 1:15:26.640 And then Johnny like, damn, I could do that on 1:15:26.720 --> 1:15:28.519 my own. What they can come to me? Why are 1:15:28.520 --> 1:15:29.880 they going to you? It can come straight to me, 1:15:30.240 --> 1:15:33.040 see it? And then basically what it was, what was 1:15:33.080 --> 1:15:35.880 the was the first order because because obviously you was 1:15:35.920 --> 1:15:37.680 a wrapper, so that this was your side house of 1:15:37.760 --> 1:15:39.599 the grills, right it was when was the same time, 1:15:39.720 --> 1:15:41.720 you know, and if I first started rapping with the 1:15:41.720 --> 1:15:43.640 Switch House my first mixtape with the Swish I was 1:15:43.720 --> 1:15:45.800 in nineteen nine and nine before that, I was rapping 1:15:45.840 --> 1:15:48.439 with comed there doing talent shows or whatever, just trying 1:15:48.439 --> 1:15:51.160 to make it. But you know, basically what no rap 1:15:51.240 --> 1:15:54.400 career was, you know, we was just you know, it 1:15:54.560 --> 1:15:58.200 was the first order with you and where you He 1:15:58.320 --> 1:15:59.760 was like, you know what, I could make some money 1:15:59.760 --> 1:16:01.240 off of this ship, Like you know what I'm saying, 1:16:01.280 --> 1:16:04.120 Like I actually, well, this is what I'm doing. I 1:16:04.240 --> 1:16:08.160 was working for Crime where I worked out of y Yeah, 1:16:08.360 --> 1:16:10.040 I was working for him, and it was at a 1:16:10.120 --> 1:16:12.200 store where we sold switch house tape. It was like 1:16:12.280 --> 1:16:15.200 a hood store like you know, uh, you know, like 1:16:15.240 --> 1:16:16.880 a bodega kind of, but we don't call it that. 1:16:17.040 --> 1:16:19.439 It's just like just a store, corner store where that 1:16:19.640 --> 1:16:23.280 we sold switch House mixed taste. We sold hood t 1:16:23.439 --> 1:16:25.280 shirts that'll just had a name of your hood type 1:16:25.280 --> 1:16:27.360 ship on their north side or whatever, this type of 1:16:27.439 --> 1:16:30.200 sayings type of s on there. Then we've been there 1:16:30.320 --> 1:16:35.200 selling grills, selling gold teeth. But after a while, you know, 1:16:35.520 --> 1:16:37.559 Ship started picking up. It was like, Okay, I gotta, 1:16:37.760 --> 1:16:39.320 I gotta move out of here. I gotta you know, 1:16:39.760 --> 1:16:41.519 I could get money in other ways, but I would 1:16:41.680 --> 1:16:45.280 really Originally I started out working for Crime doing the promotions. 1:16:45.360 --> 1:16:47.240 That's the first time where I actually ran a shop, 1:16:47.520 --> 1:16:49.920 ran a grill shot and then even then it was 1:16:49.960 --> 1:16:53.000 still working for Crime. He paid me a salary and 1:16:53.040 --> 1:16:55.360 I would sell grills and I was a salesman, but 1:16:55.720 --> 1:16:58.640 he did everything. He took everything, and then eventually he 1:16:59.080 --> 1:17:01.400 was like a look, I'm gonna do something for you man. 1:17:01.479 --> 1:17:03.320 I may introduce you the Johnny Man it's you know, 1:17:03.439 --> 1:17:06.679 and he's like all right. I was like bed ship, yeah, yeah, 1:17:06.680 --> 1:17:11.000 and he basically gave him. Yeah. But crime had different 1:17:11.000 --> 1:17:12.760 people to crime had somebody in New York that was 1:17:12.800 --> 1:17:15.800 making on me as somebody and uh, you know, but 1:17:15.920 --> 1:17:18.360 Johnny didn't majority because it was local in Houston. But 1:17:18.479 --> 1:17:20.920 he had multiple year he got all kind of stuff 1:17:20.920 --> 1:17:22.879 going on. But it wasn't It wasn't like a celebrity 1:17:22.920 --> 1:17:25.400 who came to you and like and then he was like, 1:17:25.479 --> 1:17:26.960 you know what this is, this is something I want 1:17:27.000 --> 1:17:29.200 to invest my money in. Well, I think it was 1:17:29.280 --> 1:17:32.360 just no, it was more like just the hustle because 1:17:32.560 --> 1:17:36.560 Little John was the first celebrity I did. But before that, 1:17:36.680 --> 1:17:39.080 it was just I was making money, man. I was 1:17:39.160 --> 1:17:41.240 making a kind of money selling grills, and I would 1:17:42.080 --> 1:17:44.360 The hustle is you pass out flies with your number 1:17:44.400 --> 1:17:47.519 on it, with the prices on it, and people will 1:17:47.520 --> 1:17:49.920 see it. You go to all the different cities or 1:17:50.000 --> 1:17:53.200 towns that in the three or four mile RADI three 1:17:53.240 --> 1:17:54.960 or four hour radius, you know what I'm saying. So 1:17:55.040 --> 1:17:57.920 I would go to Dallas, Santonio, Austin the same places 1:17:57.960 --> 1:18:00.400 I'm going to sell switchhouse tape because keep this in 1:18:00.479 --> 1:18:04.200 mind too. I was selling Switching House mixtapes. Before I 1:18:04.360 --> 1:18:07.800 was rapping on them. I was promoting and distributing. I 1:18:07.880 --> 1:18:10.439 would press up this. I would press up the CDs 1:18:10.479 --> 1:18:12.640 and the tapes, and I also would distribute them and 1:18:12.760 --> 1:18:15.240 go to the stores, fulfill the orders, take them back 1:18:15.280 --> 1:18:18.160 to watch ron clg Dash. That's what T Ferris was 1:18:18.240 --> 1:18:19.840 doing too. We came in at the same time doing 1:18:19.920 --> 1:18:23.120 that before I was wrapping the Switch House. So I 1:18:23.240 --> 1:18:27.200 got to see in Ship the same grill hustle in Houston. 1:18:27.600 --> 1:18:29.240 I can do this out of town, So I go 1:18:29.360 --> 1:18:31.600 to Dallas all these places, put my number down with 1:18:31.680 --> 1:18:35.120 flyers of the prices. They already were traveling to Houston 1:18:35.280 --> 1:18:38.160 or places to get grills, go or to whatever whoever. 1:18:38.240 --> 1:18:40.040 Their local hood didn't but it was it's like it 1:18:40.200 --> 1:18:42.439 ain't a good selection of people to go to. It's 1:18:42.479 --> 1:18:45.280 only like one or two or maybe three in Houston 1:18:45.560 --> 1:18:47.760 at that time they were doing permanent grills. They were like, 1:18:47.840 --> 1:18:50.280 hood didn't like doing that. So it's like, ship, where 1:18:50.320 --> 1:18:53.560 can you go? So you know, doing that it was 1:18:53.640 --> 1:18:56.720 just working. And I would go to Louisiana, same thing. Lafayette, 1:18:56.800 --> 1:19:00.360 like Charles Appulus is on the baton ruge and then 1:19:01.120 --> 1:19:02.960 even in every direction, you know what I'm saying. So 1:19:04.120 --> 1:19:06.240 it just it got to be a real hustle for me. 1:19:06.479 --> 1:19:09.320 But little John saw it was like he knew who 1:19:09.360 --> 1:19:10.840 I was as I was at that time. I was 1:19:10.920 --> 1:19:13.920 a d J. I was DJ, and I was an artist, 1:19:13.960 --> 1:19:16.320 switch house, a freestyle artist. But I kind of a 1:19:16.400 --> 1:19:18.360 lot of people, you know, I kind of got more 1:19:18.439 --> 1:19:21.960 recognition as a DJ at that time. At that time, 1:19:23.680 --> 1:19:26.600 DJ Paul, the other artists, I think a lot of 1:19:26.800 --> 1:19:29.639 they more respecting me as a DJ because I wasn't 1:19:29.680 --> 1:19:31.680 hound hounding them for versus and all let me act 1:19:31.720 --> 1:19:33.040 like I'm friends with you and all that. It was 1:19:33.120 --> 1:19:36.000 more like I'm a DJ, I play of music. They 1:19:36.080 --> 1:19:38.240 respected me for that because I really will support people 1:19:38.280 --> 1:19:41.439 I funk with. And whereas the fans sunk to me 1:19:41.560 --> 1:19:43.280 as being a rapper, they didn't give a funk about 1:19:43.280 --> 1:19:45.240 me DJ and the fans with me was being a rapper, 1:19:45.439 --> 1:19:47.920 but the the other artists, they sucked me as being 1:19:48.000 --> 1:19:50.040 a more DJ. So it was a lot of other 1:19:50.920 --> 1:19:52.439 the artists I sunk with, I sunk with t I 1:19:52.600 --> 1:19:55.120 real tough, real heavy, you know, even as I was 1:19:55.200 --> 1:19:57.640 rapping with the switch house and you know, you know 1:19:57.720 --> 1:20:00.640 when twenty Folks came out and you all around then, 1:20:00.880 --> 1:20:03.160 But it was more as me being a DJ and 1:20:03.240 --> 1:20:06.519 then as an artist thing came it was like, oh, ship, 1:20:06.760 --> 1:20:08.400 you rapped. Two ain't know you wrapped. And then it 1:20:08.640 --> 1:20:12.599 also let me just you know, it just it worked 1:20:12.640 --> 1:20:15.880 for me because I saw how people You know, man, 1:20:16.200 --> 1:20:20.759 everybody is a rapper or a DJ or a producer. Everybody, 1:20:21.240 --> 1:20:25.920 so everybody who's seen any type of success, and there's 1:20:25.920 --> 1:20:29.240 all types of different levels. You get everybody coming up 1:20:29.240 --> 1:20:30.519 to you, Hey, I want to be where you at? 1:20:30.560 --> 1:20:31.640 How can I be there? Can you? How can you 1:20:31.720 --> 1:20:33.040 put me on? Put me on? Put me on, put 1:20:33.080 --> 1:20:35.720 me on? So ship this man, I would just see 1:20:35.760 --> 1:20:38.000 how you would get turned off shut out. As I'm 1:20:38.040 --> 1:20:39.479 a rapper, they put me on, put me on, and 1:20:39.520 --> 1:20:41.960 they on want the funk with you? But I'm a DJ. 1:20:42.160 --> 1:20:43.960 Oh you Hey, I'm ana DJ. I can play of music. 1:20:44.040 --> 1:20:46.080 Then they oh you can play my music, let me 1:20:46.320 --> 1:20:48.800 with you. Ship. It just was like reverse psychology. And 1:20:48.880 --> 1:20:50.760 then when they when they when they would find out 1:20:50.800 --> 1:20:52.840 that I wrapped, it would be damn, you ain't even 1:20:52.880 --> 1:20:55.120 tell me you wrap. But it would be like yeah, 1:20:55.120 --> 1:20:57.040 because I ain't trying to put you out like that 1:20:57.120 --> 1:20:58.479 where you ain't want to suck with me no more, 1:20:58.520 --> 1:21:00.800 because you know, you see how that goes. It worked 1:21:00.840 --> 1:21:02.600 for me, you know what I'm saying. I just I 1:21:02.720 --> 1:21:05.599 let that. I let my other side hustles, you know, grow, 1:21:06.040 --> 1:21:08.160 so they when I had an opportunity for me to 1:21:08.240 --> 1:21:10.240 be an artist or a rapper, you know, I had 1:21:10.280 --> 1:21:13.760 all kind of money wise monetarily, I had my money, 1:21:14.000 --> 1:21:16.800 so I didn't rely on record sales. My network was 1:21:16.840 --> 1:21:19.840 already strong because I was already distributing in other people music, 1:21:20.240 --> 1:21:23.519 and I was a salesman selling grills and selling music, 1:21:23.600 --> 1:21:25.679 so I knew what, you know, just sell my own music. 1:21:25.760 --> 1:21:27.639 Being an artists with the kind of took I knew 1:21:27.720 --> 1:21:30.600 being a salesman who distributed to Switchhouse tapes. Sometimes I 1:21:30.680 --> 1:21:33.200 can tell which, you know with the fans, they work 1:21:33.240 --> 1:21:35.400 with this artist or that artist, so they like when 1:21:35.439 --> 1:21:39.479 you say this or that and then right right, so yeah, 1:21:39.479 --> 1:21:41.320 I could adjust, like okay, they like when I do that. 1:21:42.280 --> 1:21:45.000 Partners on the whole Jury Store, just the grill part, 1:21:45.400 --> 1:21:53.479 all of it, all of it your jury store. We're 1:21:53.520 --> 1:21:55.840 actually we were branching out. We're about to branch off. 1:21:56.040 --> 1:21:58.000 We still got the Sharpstown store of course, got the 1:21:58.040 --> 1:22:01.000 new and uh C too for rich in Houston, the 1:22:01.040 --> 1:22:03.519 big one, the two story. He Johnny got his own. 1:22:03.560 --> 1:22:07.280 He Johnny went from doing jury repair in his garage 1:22:07.800 --> 1:22:11.120 to selling grills in the mall to having his own mall. Man. 1:22:11.200 --> 1:22:13.760 So you know, man, you know it's it's definitely how 1:22:13.800 --> 1:22:16.080 does the want to but somebody wanted to start getting 1:22:16.160 --> 1:22:18.479 the jury business? How do you how do you even begint? 1:22:20.000 --> 1:22:23.000 This is why I love Johnny bro He changed my 1:22:23.200 --> 1:22:26.639 life as beat me being a hustler. I can sell anything, 1:22:26.680 --> 1:22:29.559 I can hustle anything. So when you got that type 1:22:29.560 --> 1:22:31.759 of skill, you know, how can you do that without 1:22:31.760 --> 1:22:34.560 going to jail? How can you do that it with integrity, 1:22:34.920 --> 1:22:37.880 to respect when you're not selling something this whack of 1:22:37.960 --> 1:22:39.720 corny or how can you do that and make a 1:22:39.800 --> 1:22:41.680 career out of me? How can you do that? You know? 1:22:41.840 --> 1:22:44.320 Just all that. So for me it was a whole 1:22:44.400 --> 1:22:47.439 lot of you know, I love grills, I want grills, 1:22:47.720 --> 1:22:49.680 so I want to sell them. Then I can make 1:22:49.720 --> 1:22:51.519 a lot of money off of this because a lot 1:22:51.600 --> 1:22:54.080 of people at the time who was selling grills were 1:22:54.160 --> 1:22:57.559 charging too much money. Or we're doing bad business where 1:22:57.960 --> 1:23:00.519 they take your money and your grill mold, but you 1:23:00.560 --> 1:23:02.840 wouldn't get your grill and you got a hound them 1:23:02.880 --> 1:23:05.639 for their grill, you know. So I just saw myself 1:23:05.720 --> 1:23:08.559 as men, if I can do a good business, I'm 1:23:08.560 --> 1:23:12.040 gonna win, all right. And Johnny gave me that opportunity. 1:23:12.160 --> 1:23:15.960 That that's what Johnny started off as he would give wholesale. 1:23:16.880 --> 1:23:18.880 Did you did you? Did you fund him first? How 1:23:18.920 --> 1:23:20.479 did he like? How did like like you know what 1:23:20.479 --> 1:23:22.400 I'm saying, like, no, no, he's done it. It was 1:23:22.479 --> 1:23:26.200 all Johnny. Okay. So me, I would when I'm working 1:23:26.240 --> 1:23:29.720 for crime, doing grills, doing selling grill modes whatever, doing 1:23:29.720 --> 1:23:32.880 anything I'm doing crime, I would be like the driver 1:23:33.080 --> 1:23:35.200 drop off the mode. So I'm at Johnny's dropping off 1:23:35.240 --> 1:23:37.720 the most picking up orders things like that. I'd be 1:23:37.840 --> 1:23:40.920 in there. It was a small shop, and every time 1:23:41.000 --> 1:23:42.679 I ever went in there, he would always be getting 1:23:42.680 --> 1:23:45.880 into somebody. He got this thick Vetnamese accent and then't 1:23:45.880 --> 1:23:49.400 be somebody who is from the hood of any race. 1:23:49.600 --> 1:23:51.479 There was from some type of hood so they had 1:23:51.560 --> 1:23:54.240 a hood accent, or there was from out of state. 1:23:54.400 --> 1:23:56.000 So he didn't know what the fun they were saying 1:23:56.040 --> 1:23:58.519 that what he was saying, and it would just be 1:23:59.120 --> 1:24:01.960 a translation. No, no, he's saying, it's this, No, no, Johnny, 1:24:02.000 --> 1:24:05.920 he wants this, no this, And then you know, after that, 1:24:06.120 --> 1:24:10.200 eventually it got to be a while I'm in there 1:24:10.280 --> 1:24:13.559 dropping off grill most ship people say you like outside, 1:24:13.560 --> 1:24:15.479 I didn't know you. I'm a rapper too, and he's like, 1:24:15.520 --> 1:24:18.080 you're a rapper and you sell grills whatever, and I'm like, yeah, well, 1:24:18.120 --> 1:24:20.720 you know what whatever, And then it got to be 1:24:20.840 --> 1:24:23.559 a ship. We can do this together, and we're way 1:24:23.640 --> 1:24:26.720 stronger together. And Johnny always from the jump Johnny got 1:24:26.760 --> 1:24:28.200 a part of my music too, just like I got 1:24:28.280 --> 1:24:30.000 a part of the Jews. Johnny told me from the 1:24:30.080 --> 1:24:31.880 jump Man, Hey, look the same way you love JR. 1:24:32.200 --> 1:24:34.599 That's how I love music. I can't make no music. 1:24:34.800 --> 1:24:36.639 I don't know how to make music, but I want 1:24:36.640 --> 1:24:39.760 to be a part somehow, whether it's doing concerts, you know, 1:24:39.920 --> 1:24:41.840 just investing something. I want to be I want to 1:24:41.880 --> 1:24:44.120 be a part. So that's why we always had kind 1:24:44.160 --> 1:24:46.760 of messed the way we have the juror is this 1:24:46.960 --> 1:24:48.920 thing I do the marketing, I do things like that 1:24:49.000 --> 1:24:51.920 in terms of the marketing and outreach. Uh. Big part 1:24:51.960 --> 1:24:54.040 of what I do. Yeah, A big part of what 1:24:54.120 --> 1:24:56.759 I do is customer service. When people and there's problems. 1:24:56.800 --> 1:24:58.759 Of course, that's when people don't really call me unless 1:24:58.760 --> 1:25:00.720 they got a problem and they the problem because we're 1:25:00.720 --> 1:25:02.439 gonna spoop it over. That's all I think, too, is it? 1:25:02.920 --> 1:25:06.720 You know, customer services number one to us. But the 1:25:06.840 --> 1:25:09.120 business run itself. He running so I'm able to do 1:25:09.280 --> 1:25:11.400 my music and collect the check at the same time, 1:25:11.520 --> 1:25:15.880 cross promote and everything I do. But it just it 1:25:16.000 --> 1:25:18.720 just was like, why why not we got a team up, 1:25:18.800 --> 1:25:22.120 Let's do this together. And me, I'm a very loyal person, 1:25:22.200 --> 1:25:24.560 so I'm not the type to let me do this 1:25:24.680 --> 1:25:26.400 on my own without you to x you out so 1:25:26.479 --> 1:25:28.280 that I can make a little bit more money. I'm 1:25:28.320 --> 1:25:31.559 more of a let's build this up together. You got kids, 1:25:31.600 --> 1:25:33.960 I got kids, will pass this on to our kids together. 1:25:34.360 --> 1:25:37.240 You know I'm more of a builder than I am 1:25:37.320 --> 1:25:39.559 over let me go do it on my own. No man, stop, 1:25:39.720 --> 1:25:47.120 even you got your girls, little girls like you get 1:25:47.160 --> 1:25:50.960 those girls, Charlie Hey. But this is why, this is 1:25:50.960 --> 1:25:56.080 why I love Journey because now but it might be 1:25:56.240 --> 1:26:02.479 you're looking good, but this is why I love Johnny 1:26:02.520 --> 1:26:06.120 because the same opportunity he gave me to go hustle 1:26:06.439 --> 1:26:10.439 and make a living and make money off of this man. 1:26:10.479 --> 1:26:14.400 He get that to We got thousands of wholesale clients 1:26:14.880 --> 1:26:17.519 around the world, so that you know, instead of him 1:26:17.560 --> 1:26:21.040 franchising off and having a Johnny Danger Company in every city, 1:26:21.640 --> 1:26:25.040 there's like ten Johnny Dann company people who are getting 1:26:25.040 --> 1:26:29.200 their wholesale from us, but they're their own business. So yeah, 1:26:29.280 --> 1:26:32.000 I appreciate that he empowered you to be your own hustle, 1:26:32.320 --> 1:26:34.840 to to build your own business for your kids. You 1:26:34.880 --> 1:26:37.120 know what I'm saying that That's why I love Johnny 1:26:37.120 --> 1:26:39.479 because he get an opportunity. I've seen him time and 1:26:39.600 --> 1:26:41.920 time and time again, get that opportunity to what's the 1:26:41.960 --> 1:26:43.680 first thing approachon to do if they want to get 1:26:43.680 --> 1:26:47.760 into the well? I mean, because you had I would 1:26:47.760 --> 1:26:50.280 say this, No matter what, it's very easy to get 1:26:50.400 --> 1:26:54.000 tempted to run off of people money or charge them 1:26:54.040 --> 1:26:56.960 more and get them. Uh, they paid ten thousand, but 1:26:57.160 --> 1:27:00.280 let me act like they paid nine eight because I 1:27:00.360 --> 1:27:03.160 need some new rooms or something, you know. So I 1:27:03.280 --> 1:27:07.720 think good business and customer service is key a one 1:27:07.840 --> 1:27:09.920 key to long term business. Now, if you want to 1:27:09.960 --> 1:27:12.519 go out and hit licks come up real quick. That's 1:27:12.600 --> 1:27:16.200 a completely different business structure. You know. My business advice 1:27:16.240 --> 1:27:18.640 I can give you is for long term careers or 1:27:18.680 --> 1:27:20.240 something you can pass on to your kids and make 1:27:20.280 --> 1:27:22.640 millions of dollars off. Yeah, if you want to make 1:27:22.680 --> 1:27:24.360 a couple of thousand real quick and go here licks 1:27:24.400 --> 1:27:26.519 and burn people on their orders. But you want to 1:27:26.560 --> 1:27:28.800 make some millions, yeah, you can't do that type of ship. 1:27:29.160 --> 1:27:31.800 But that's what man. You know we're talking though. If 1:27:31.880 --> 1:27:35.160 you want to sell jury, the best advice I would 1:27:35.160 --> 1:27:37.840 get to you if you like, man, go talk to Johnny. 1:27:38.400 --> 1:27:41.559 We gotta. We have a whole department. This a wholesale department. 1:27:42.000 --> 1:27:45.439 This is just as big as the gold casting or 1:27:45.560 --> 1:27:49.000 diamond setting, or shipping or any other department we have those. 1:27:49.080 --> 1:27:51.760 That department is huge, man, And that's also why we're 1:27:51.760 --> 1:27:54.640 able to sell four hundred grills a day. You know, 1:27:54.840 --> 1:27:56.640 it's it's crazy to be to be able to do 1:27:56.720 --> 1:27:59.560 this much. But it's not because they you know, we 1:27:59.640 --> 1:28:02.920 got you. You know, we got in a movie called 1:28:03.160 --> 1:28:06.640 um you hope they served Ben Hell? Oh yeah, my 1:28:06.760 --> 1:28:09.160 boy Tuckle Max. So how the hell are you getting 1:28:09.439 --> 1:28:12.840 a movie like that man. Uh it's a yeah, man, 1:28:12.920 --> 1:28:15.080 it's a you know, I'm not that good at active, 1:28:15.200 --> 1:28:17.439 but I think that might be where it started. They 1:28:17.520 --> 1:28:19.320 put me in the in the movies that they not 1:28:19.439 --> 1:28:22.479 the not the mainstream successes, but that was they didn't 1:28:22.479 --> 1:28:24.360 make some money off of that. It's based off a book. 1:28:24.680 --> 1:28:27.120 My boy. It's a real person named Tuckle Max. He 1:28:27.160 --> 1:28:29.000 got a book. It was on the New York Times 1:28:29.040 --> 1:28:32.240 best seller for like teen years something crazy, like I 1:28:32.240 --> 1:28:34.120 think he might have broke a record or something. He was. 1:28:34.560 --> 1:28:36.960 But the book is like a story he wrote which 1:28:37.040 --> 1:28:41.040 is basically like adventures of getting sucked up and and 1:28:41.240 --> 1:28:44.320 fucking girls and just reckly ship three girls in one 1:28:44.400 --> 1:28:46.800 night and I ain't wear I got so drunk and 1:28:46.920 --> 1:28:48.639 I threw a ball over the floor here and there. 1:28:49.040 --> 1:28:50.720 Oh ay, one time I had to ship in. This 1:28:50.840 --> 1:28:53.160 girl gave me head while I was shooting, like it's 1:28:53.200 --> 1:28:59.400 like this, yeah, but it's all true stories and uh, 1:28:59.640 --> 1:29:01.080 you know of him and I had asked me. I 1:29:01.160 --> 1:29:03.000 was like, hey, bro, these all can't be your stories. 1:29:03.040 --> 1:29:05.080 They gotta be like you and like four or your homeboys, 1:29:05.120 --> 1:29:07.280 and you all put them together with he like, well, 1:29:07.479 --> 1:29:10.080 it's just me. But anyway, I made him through some 1:29:10.160 --> 1:29:11.519 of the else When the first time I went to 1:29:11.600 --> 1:29:14.080 iraq Um with the U s O, I went with 1:29:14.400 --> 1:29:18.080 my boy Jamie Kennedy and Stu Stone and Jamie Kennedy, 1:29:18.320 --> 1:29:20.400 you know, the actor comedian. He had a book out 1:29:20.960 --> 1:29:25.400 and uh, Tucker Max, Uh, he's the one who wrote it. 1:29:25.600 --> 1:29:27.320 He like CO wrote it, you know what I'm saying. 1:29:27.360 --> 1:29:29.720 So anyway, I was he was talking to him and 1:29:29.720 --> 1:29:31.559 he's like, oh, Ship, hey, my boy, Tucker Max, say 1:29:31.600 --> 1:29:33.840 what's up? Man? You know he could helped CO wrote 1:29:33.880 --> 1:29:35.719 my book. And I'm like, oh, Ship, tell him myself. 1:29:35.720 --> 1:29:37.519 I'm trying to write a book too. Anyway, he wrote 1:29:37.520 --> 1:29:40.000 a bunch of he co he helped Tiffany Hadds right 1:29:40.160 --> 1:29:41.880 with her book. You know, I don't you know, I 1:29:41.880 --> 1:29:43.840 wouldn't in on their writing problem how they do it, 1:29:43.920 --> 1:29:45.720 but a lot of times when they write books like that, 1:29:45.800 --> 1:29:47.360 you like do an interview and then it to be 1:29:47.439 --> 1:29:49.240 kind of transcribed kind of or whatever. I don't know, 1:29:49.360 --> 1:29:51.679 but whatever. Anyway, but if you look on the book 1:29:51.760 --> 1:29:56.000 The Last Black Unicorns, like Tivy hadas Tucker Max, I'm like, oh, Ship, 1:29:56.120 --> 1:29:58.160 my boy, I've seen I've seen that. I was wired 1:29:58.200 --> 1:30:00.840 up when I've seen that. But yeah, he that's how 1:30:00.920 --> 1:30:02.400 I made him. And I'm like, damn. He's like, yeah, 1:30:02.400 --> 1:30:03.720 I wrote a book is on the New York Time 1:30:03.760 --> 1:30:06.560 best seller but you know he like co wrote like 1:30:06.720 --> 1:30:08.920 a bunch of other books. So we got to be cool. 1:30:08.960 --> 1:30:10.320 And he's like, hey, they're gonna and I talk. I 1:30:10.400 --> 1:30:12.599 was like, hey, bro, if they I can't act for ship. 1:30:13.040 --> 1:30:14.840 I ain't been him with like three or four movies, 1:30:14.960 --> 1:30:17.040 but say, man, if you make the because he said 1:30:17.040 --> 1:30:18.640 they're gonna make a movie out of the book, A 1:30:18.720 --> 1:30:20.360 bro put me in the movie. Man, I try to 1:30:20.400 --> 1:30:21.960 get in that movie just because I'm trying to get 1:30:22.000 --> 1:30:24.799 a movie credit. So that's how that's how it basically happened. 1:30:24.800 --> 1:30:27.160 He put me in the movie. He basically wrote me 1:30:27.200 --> 1:30:29.519 in the movie, which was like a parody of myself, 1:30:29.640 --> 1:30:31.360 kind of like my you know, my name in the 1:30:31.439 --> 1:30:36.800 movie was Grillionaire. So but yeah, shout to my boy. 1:30:36.880 --> 1:30:39.439 What's up now? Now you got a real you got 1:30:39.560 --> 1:30:42.160 a real you married a real system. You ain't married 1:30:42.200 --> 1:30:45.400 like a faith black girl, real real black you have? 1:30:46.120 --> 1:30:48.840 What has been like like that? Because what does that 1:30:48.960 --> 1:30:51.640 life have been? Because obviously we know you're white and 1:30:51.880 --> 1:30:55.160 you married a black girl? Like, has that been pluses 1:30:55.240 --> 1:30:58.080 for you? Have that? Have people critiqued you for it? Like? 1:30:58.720 --> 1:31:03.040 You know, different people have different perspectives. You know, it's 1:31:03.280 --> 1:31:11.439 she's my dream woman. Anything now but anything I can 1:31:11.479 --> 1:31:14.040 ask for or could want and a partners, you know, 1:31:14.120 --> 1:31:16.200 see that for me, So I don't want nothing else. 1:31:16.240 --> 1:31:22.439 I would now. I never you know, I never been 1:31:22.520 --> 1:31:24.439 married and nobody else or nothing else. So I like that. 1:31:24.560 --> 1:31:26.720 So I never even you know, been this is she 1:31:26.920 --> 1:31:29.599 really the first serious, serious relationship that I had ever 1:31:29.680 --> 1:31:31.519 been in a long long term like that. Even we 1:31:31.600 --> 1:31:35.439 got married on our two year anniversaries. So should I 1:31:35.520 --> 1:31:38.200 don't know for me, you know, we get it different ways. 1:31:38.280 --> 1:31:40.560 Of course. If you look at the comments on the 1:31:40.640 --> 1:31:42.759 post or something, you'll see all kind of ships sometimes. 1:31:42.880 --> 1:31:45.760 But I think, you know, if you're racist, then you're 1:31:45.760 --> 1:31:49.160 gonna find some racist out of it or whatever. You know, 1:31:49.280 --> 1:31:51.519 there's there's definitely people on both sides who got a 1:31:51.560 --> 1:31:53.719 problem with it, you know what I'm saying or whatever, 1:31:53.840 --> 1:31:56.320 But hey, man, I wish them the best. I hope 1:31:56.360 --> 1:31:58.599 they'd be happy. You know, I'm I'm happy, I'm I'm 1:31:58.840 --> 1:32:01.200 I'm proud to be married to. It is is what 1:32:01.320 --> 1:32:04.720 I wanted as being and my parents with divorce, and 1:32:04.960 --> 1:32:06.760 you know, this is what I wanted, Man, I want 1:32:06.800 --> 1:32:09.120 to be married ship. I'm not trying to be like 1:32:09.320 --> 1:32:11.559 rapper married where I'm married but I'm working on the side, 1:32:17.840 --> 1:32:21.559 or or just just or just just entertainer married where 1:32:21.640 --> 1:32:24.720 you don't tell nobody married, you know, just you know, hey, 1:32:24.840 --> 1:32:28.640 I'm because it even you know, as a child growing up. 1:32:28.760 --> 1:32:31.320 If I want to think about what the rappers, you know, 1:32:31.439 --> 1:32:33.559 from being whatever age I was when I first heard 1:32:33.640 --> 1:32:36.479 hip hop? What what? What a you know? Who's married? 1:32:36.520 --> 1:32:39.200 Who talks about being married, who's proud to be married? 1:32:39.280 --> 1:32:40.640 Or any of that? You don't hear none of that. 1:32:40.680 --> 1:32:44.280 The only thing you see is scandal side bitches, baby 1:32:44.320 --> 1:32:48.080 Mama's Dog and girls out love songs broken. You know, Hey, 1:32:48.160 --> 1:32:51.840 that's difference the love spectrum of the interactive spect you 1:32:51.880 --> 1:32:54.559 know whatever. It's big, but you don't hear too much 1:32:54.640 --> 1:32:57.240 of y'all married and you know ship like that or 1:32:57.560 --> 1:32:59.680 you know whatever, or just see people talking about it 1:32:59.760 --> 1:33:01.400 or all you'd be like, they mightn't even know he's 1:33:01.400 --> 1:33:03.519 married to. You find out somebody who got divorced, you know, 1:33:03.920 --> 1:33:06.920 got divorce. I don't even know they're married, Ship, but 1:33:07.439 --> 1:33:09.680 you know, so for me, it was like who do 1:33:09.760 --> 1:33:13.000 I look to as a role model to be you know, 1:33:13.320 --> 1:33:15.880 to be married and entertainment or be a rapper that's 1:33:15.920 --> 1:33:19.559 married or inter racial. I never really looked at any 1:33:19.600 --> 1:33:22.640 of it like any of that. But who do I 1:33:22.760 --> 1:33:25.840 look to for just to be a marriage role model? 1:33:25.920 --> 1:33:28.760 Especially in rap music? You know what I'm saying. Like Ship, 1:33:28.880 --> 1:33:30.679 it wasn't a lot at the time. Now he's gotten 1:33:30.680 --> 1:33:32.280 to be more, you know what I'm saying, So I 1:33:32.439 --> 1:33:35.240 you know, it's a brotherhood all the other married rappers, 1:33:35.280 --> 1:33:36.880 you know what I'm saying, and should be it's cool, 1:33:36.960 --> 1:33:39.200 you know' parenting to now people more proud to talk 1:33:39.240 --> 1:33:42.680 about being parents for sure. Man, It's something that it 1:33:42.800 --> 1:33:45.120 goes a long way in us a lot of us, 1:33:45.800 --> 1:33:49.320 you know, like growing up having bad experiences, or coming 1:33:49.360 --> 1:33:51.679 from a broken home, or not having a father, having 1:33:51.720 --> 1:33:53.680 a father addicted the drugs, like you know, all of 1:33:53.760 --> 1:33:55.640 the things. Was like, Okay, who do I look to, 1:33:56.360 --> 1:33:58.240 you know, as a role model and rap as well? 1:33:58.439 --> 1:34:00.240 Like Ship? You know, it's something that to be proud 1:34:00.320 --> 1:34:01.920 of being a father and all of these things to 1:34:02.000 --> 1:34:03.800 be married, it's something to be proud of. To be 1:34:03.880 --> 1:34:06.479 a father, something to be proud of. So it's I 1:34:06.600 --> 1:34:08.960 try to do, you know. It's what I wanted. It's 1:34:09.040 --> 1:34:11.080 my dream. I wanted to be married, had kids and 1:34:11.160 --> 1:34:15.160 be happy with my dream like a motherfucker. Now you 1:34:15.200 --> 1:34:17.920 went on tour with tchech mind Yeah, my boy like 1:34:18.560 --> 1:34:21.880 and l Bill as well. Yeah, yeah, how was that 1:34:23.160 --> 1:34:31.560 it was? We actually toured twice once. We toured in 1:34:31.680 --> 1:34:34.280 like two thousand and three, but it was just like, 1:34:34.520 --> 1:34:36.639 I think four or five shows. It wasn't a whole 1:34:36.680 --> 1:34:41.640 lot fourth probably the labels. Yeah, yeah, well maybe like 1:34:41.760 --> 1:34:45.240 at the beginning to being even then it was a 1:34:45.400 --> 1:34:49.040 weird experience showing up to the first show. It was 1:34:49.120 --> 1:34:50.400 I think it was in job. I don't know if 1:34:50.439 --> 1:34:53.720 it was the first one of the first shows. Yeah, yeah, 1:34:53.760 --> 1:34:56.400 he was. I remember we did a show in Joplin, Missouri, 1:34:56.840 --> 1:34:58.920 and it was like we should be pull up and 1:34:59.600 --> 1:35:02.559 there's people waiting there, but they got on black trench 1:35:02.640 --> 1:35:06.479 coats as hot as they're gonna black trench coats. Yeah, 1:35:06.479 --> 1:35:10.360 they got their face painted, and we like, man, what's 1:35:10.439 --> 1:35:13.000 going on? It sat We wasn't something we wasn't used 1:35:13.040 --> 1:35:19.760 to when we go into Yeah we like technicians. Yeah, 1:35:20.240 --> 1:35:22.479 so it was something he wasn't We didn't know what 1:35:22.600 --> 1:35:25.280 to expect, and it was it was a dope interaction 1:35:25.360 --> 1:35:28.200 to see the combination of his fans and my fans, 1:35:28.600 --> 1:35:30.320 you know, because you can see some people were there 1:35:30.360 --> 1:35:32.160 for me, some people there for him, some of there 1:35:32.200 --> 1:35:34.599 for both. But then for sure, it was a dope 1:35:34.640 --> 1:35:36.880 experience that first time we did the first shows and 1:35:37.000 --> 1:35:39.360 that was my first interaction with juggalos like that, and 1:35:39.439 --> 1:35:41.000 it was dope, just saying, you know, I thought that 1:35:41.080 --> 1:35:43.720 was so dope to have fans that, especially in hip 1:35:43.760 --> 1:35:47.560 hop broke because being a fan, it's not cool. You 1:35:47.960 --> 1:35:49.960 can't be no fan you're Dick Rider. They ain't no 1:35:50.160 --> 1:35:54.640 fan as you're Dick Rider. Yes, I haven't been to 1:35:54.720 --> 1:35:59.920 the crazy, but it was it was It's dope to 1:36:00.040 --> 1:36:02.120 me to see people that are proud to be a 1:36:02.200 --> 1:36:04.320 fan of you and they and if you don't like it, 1:36:04.720 --> 1:36:07.559 they're ready to fight you. That's like what That's how 1:36:07.680 --> 1:36:11.040 Zero is to me. His fan base. Zero has my 1:36:11.160 --> 1:36:14.080 boy Zero from Houston. He got a fan base where 1:36:14.800 --> 1:36:17.880 if his fans, if you talk bad about Zero, you say, man, 1:36:17.920 --> 1:36:20.320 they're gonna fight you right there on the spot when 1:36:20.360 --> 1:36:23.719 you're tripping. So you know this. They don't paint their faces, 1:36:23.840 --> 1:36:28.800 but they yeah, and so you know, I was, you know, 1:36:28.880 --> 1:36:30.880 happy to see that for show when our experience that, 1:36:31.280 --> 1:36:32.720 and that was the first time. In the second time 1:36:32.760 --> 1:36:35.479 we went on tour, it was like a sixty city show, 1:36:35.680 --> 1:36:40.479 sixty day sisty city tour. It was crazy like sisty 1:36:40.560 --> 1:36:45.560 shows back back to that. Yeah, but it taught me 1:36:45.600 --> 1:36:47.840 a grind like that, Like damn okay, I see the 1:36:47.920 --> 1:36:54.000 long time run every estate. He's killing man. He pulled 1:36:54.040 --> 1:36:56.320 up in the may back when we went to when 1:36:56.320 --> 1:36:58.479 we went to Kansas City, and we didn't always say 1:36:58.479 --> 1:37:01.040 I want to bring you bout my compounds studio. You 1:37:01.120 --> 1:37:03.400 pull up in the may back, you know what I'm saying. 1:37:03.400 --> 1:37:07.720 They pull up to the multi acre compound and we 1:37:07.800 --> 1:37:12.040 get buzzed in by security and you see the back 1:37:12.080 --> 1:37:16.320 warehouse where they got there hundred or different yeah, different 1:37:16.439 --> 1:37:19.800 sets from show sets like they you know, you go 1:37:19.920 --> 1:37:21.640 to the other side where you see the warehouse with 1:37:21.760 --> 1:37:24.400 all of their merch over the years, everything from socks 1:37:24.439 --> 1:37:27.000 to Jersey's T shirts. It's like then then you see 1:37:27.000 --> 1:37:28.720 the other side where they got the studio, they got 1:37:28.800 --> 1:37:31.759 the paperwork everything. It's like, damn, that's the real independent. 1:37:31.760 --> 1:37:34.280 That's the dream right there, the way they got everything. 1:37:34.400 --> 1:37:42.840 It's just it's very let's make some he he be 1:37:42.920 --> 1:37:48.760 wrapping his ass off to be boy you collaborative Silicone 1:37:48.840 --> 1:37:53.120 Valley based company jump Shot Media to create a battle 1:37:53.160 --> 1:37:57.880 Wrap game. Battle Wrap Is that still lit? I don't 1:37:57.920 --> 1:37:59.760 know if it's going, if it's still active right now. 1:37:59.760 --> 1:38:01.400 I think gets another one. I've seen another one that 1:38:01.520 --> 1:38:04.800 Bernard did. Um, but yeah, it was kind of dope. 1:38:04.840 --> 1:38:06.719 It was like, you know, this is the early stages 1:38:06.800 --> 1:38:10.200 of interactive apps type, you know, interactive type of things 1:38:10.280 --> 1:38:12.240 like that. But it's just dope to be a part 1:38:12.320 --> 1:38:14.599 of that. You know, growing up in Houston, I wasn't 1:38:14.600 --> 1:38:16.600 a part of the battle rap scenes. So it was 1:38:16.680 --> 1:38:19.760 like it was something that I was Eventually there's gonna 1:38:19.760 --> 1:38:27.639 be like FaceTime Texas. And you know, some of it though, 1:38:27.840 --> 1:38:31.280 is the doing it, because the in the battle rap, 1:38:31.439 --> 1:38:33.559 you know, it's a performance. Yeah, that face to face 1:38:33.640 --> 1:38:36.360 disrespect in your face in front of all your people, 1:38:36.439 --> 1:38:38.360 that's you know some of that is that because if 1:38:38.400 --> 1:38:41.360 you if I'm just in my room with all my homies. 1:38:41.960 --> 1:38:44.280 You know you're holding your nuts a lot. Yeah, I'm 1:38:44.640 --> 1:38:48.240 really holding you face to face. It's like you might 1:38:48.280 --> 1:38:50.600 steal off only right now. So you know everybody, you 1:38:50.680 --> 1:38:52.679 gotta be ready for all of that, these people with anybody, 1:38:52.680 --> 1:38:54.760 you know. But that'd be what that battle rap is 1:38:54.800 --> 1:38:57.679 all about. But that also is why I never really 1:38:58.200 --> 1:39:02.000 personally got into that lane, because man, somebody talk about 1:39:02.040 --> 1:39:03.880 me like that. Man, I'm gonna be ready to fight. 1:39:07.280 --> 1:39:10.240 I'm saying of it. Of watching it and you shout 1:39:10.240 --> 1:39:12.320 out to my boy to Jack arrest in piece to jacko. Man, 1:39:12.439 --> 1:39:15.439 he really got me on too watching Have you seen 1:39:15.479 --> 1:39:17.240 this battle buon up battles on YouTube? Have you've seen 1:39:17.280 --> 1:39:20.200 this battle You've seen this bat all he went in. Yeah, Yeah, 1:39:20.520 --> 1:39:22.960 we were that's my that's my boy. We actually did, 1:39:23.080 --> 1:39:25.479 uh we man, big rest in peace man, we uh 1:39:25.800 --> 1:39:28.360 we we actually did. We went on tour to Sweden. 1:39:28.439 --> 1:39:30.720 We did a festival over there and it was a 1:39:31.800 --> 1:39:35.240 big it was a battle rap going on, like a 1:39:35.280 --> 1:39:38.879 battle rap concert going on. It was like fifteen countries 1:39:38.920 --> 1:39:41.559 here and keep be all over the world. I gotta come, 1:39:44.439 --> 1:39:54.519 I gotta sw Yeah. But that was my first time 1:39:54.880 --> 1:39:57.679 being at a battle rap live in person and seeing 1:39:57.720 --> 1:40:00.120 all of it, meeting these artists, seeing how they see 1:40:00.160 --> 1:40:01.960 the nigas that try to jump asap Rocky did you, 1:40:02.640 --> 1:40:06.160 I don't know it. It was a few years ago 1:40:06.320 --> 1:40:07.960 when we was there. I thought about that that when 1:40:07.960 --> 1:40:09.840 I've seen it, I'm like, damn, I wanted it. Was 1:40:09.920 --> 1:40:11.479 they there on it, but they looked like they was 1:40:11.479 --> 1:40:16.400 a little younger niggas yesterday. The two niggas, two niggas. Yeah, 1:40:16.920 --> 1:40:20.679 I see them today back as the bars Kiden. I said, 1:40:21.000 --> 1:40:24.880 niggas trying to jump that rocket. That in my mind. Yeah, 1:40:24.960 --> 1:40:27.680 but um, you're listening to Paul Wall. We started this 1:40:27.920 --> 1:40:30.040 to pick up our legends and tell people to their 1:40:30.120 --> 1:40:33.000 face that you know your grace and so many people 1:40:33.280 --> 1:40:36.559 are and our culture that they we don't salute our culture. 1:40:36.600 --> 1:40:38.400 And this is what we want to change. You want 1:40:38.439 --> 1:40:41.120 to change the narrative of that. We started drink Champs 1:40:41.640 --> 1:40:43.599 in order for us to give people their flowers. Why 1:40:43.640 --> 1:40:45.479 they can smell them. They thought so when they could 1:40:45.479 --> 1:40:47.320 tell them they drinks where they can drink them, you 1:40:47.360 --> 1:40:48.880 know what I'm saying. And they smoked while they could 1:40:48.880 --> 1:40:50.880 smoke up, you know what I'm saying. And we want 1:40:50.880 --> 1:40:52.960 to tell you, man, you know you've been out here. 1:40:53.240 --> 1:40:55.040 You know, represent the hip hop in the right way, 1:40:55.120 --> 1:40:56.680 playing the game in the right way. And we want 1:40:56.680 --> 1:40:58.559 to tell you we appreciate you. We want to tell 1:40:58.560 --> 1:41:00.639 you salute. We want to tell you, man, keep doing 1:41:00.720 --> 1:41:02.519 your thing. I want to tell you I'm ordering a 1:41:02.600 --> 1:41:06.160 new grill, my son and grill and I'm all all 1:41:06.240 --> 1:41:08.720 three of my sons are grill and um. But man, 1:41:08.840 --> 1:41:11.360 we want to tell you, thank you, Man, I appreciate you. Man. 1:41:11.400 --> 1:41:14.000 It's just drink Champs and man, give your flowers right now. 1:41:19.320 --> 1:41:22.240 Hey man, anybody get anybody called Tony Manning and get 1:41:22.280 --> 1:41:24.880 a grill with a hashtag on whatever, telling drink Chance, 1:41:24.920 --> 1:41:27.000 giving that you drink Chance discount. Man will give you 1:41:27.320 --> 1:41:31.720 attempts in off top. We'll take a picture in the 1:41:31.840 --> 1:41:32.040 drop