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Speaker 1: still appreciate it, you know. I think without there, but

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00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 1: I think in the moment of creating it and all that.

427
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 1: And I created it too before. I you know, I

428
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 1: was slowing music down DJ and like that, before I

429
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 1: was really like leaning, what do you actually do to

430
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 1: slow it down? It's different now now it's like now

431
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 1: it's a plug that was just a Houston thing or

432
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 1: like because you know, back in those days. It's funny

433
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 1: because I'm there was a DJ in Florida who would

434
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,719
Speaker 1: make mixtape too slow down, but he wouldn't they wouldn't

435
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: chop him up. And I think Flori a lot of

436
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 1: them maybe, but it was it was like a pretty

437
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: because when I think, here we speed it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

438
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: I remember I came down here in like nine, uh

439
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 1: for something that was going on and with my Jamaican partner,

440
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, you know, it was going down.

441
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: It was all up tempo, you know, and then we

442
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: passed by one person. I hear somebody jamming screwed and

443
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, ship, they must be from Texas. And

444
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 1: then that's how I found out, like, now, no, we

445
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: were that, But since we sped it up out here,

446
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: it was like, how the fund do you listen to this?

447
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 1: Because everybody's doing cocaine? So think about it. I mean,

448
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: I just made it up, but I think about it.

449
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: Kind of makes sense we're sped up out here. That

450
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: sounds a little better some of them in Texas. I

451
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, I thought about some of them Texas. We

452
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 1: spread out, you know, so we got you know, you

453
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: gotta have a car to get from point A to

454
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: point B or whatever. You gotta have a car, whereas

455
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's like that in a lot of CITs

456
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 1: as well, but you know it's also not like that

457
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 1: in a lot of seats, so we spread it. You

458
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 1: gotta have a car. A lot of people take better

459
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: care of the car than the house. So we're gonna

460
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: make sure we have mute. You know, there's based in

461
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: the trunk. So didn't that leads to there being based

462
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 1: in the music because when you're artists too, you're like,

463
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: they ain't playing my ship if they got on base

464
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: in this. And let me make sure you got a

465
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: lot of base in it, then as hot as fun,

466
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: so you know she's slow like that. Then the swing

467
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: and all of that. The driving slowly really traditionally, like

468
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: in the car car wise, came from the streets being

469
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: sucked up. They're being potholes. Whatever. Man, if I'm in

470
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: this car, ain't my rooms up, I'm gonna drive slow.

471
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna swing around them. And then it became like

472
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: a tradition or fokes on your ms when the wheel

473
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: yourself that that's for nigga's not to come close to

474
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: your car. I mean, this is the style for the

475
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: Over the years, they've gotten wider. You know, they originally

476
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: when they originally came out in the eighty four, they

477
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: was they didn't stick out past the fender. But just

478
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: you know when they as time went on, they got

479
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 1: the technology got better, the rims got improved from going

480
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 1: from alumium still, so you know, they don't get then

481
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: up as much. They don't fall apart like they used

482
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: to it. So you know, it's like it just didn't

483
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: got upgraded updated with the times. But because we'll drive

484
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: right next to each other and be looking like we're

485
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: about the crap, you know, take it, definitely take a season.

486
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: Veteran driver, you gotta kind of hold you nuts when

487
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: you're driving. You know some of that would have been

488
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: at the same time. You gotta kind of be you

489
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: gotta be focused. You can't be on your phone all

490
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: that kind of ship. You gotta you gottau But so

491
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: that's the you know that that candy they dripped that

492
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: wet yourself house inside of the House of Colors, Shout

493
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: out the House of Colors. You know, that's that's something man.

494
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 1: You know, car lovers around the world. That's funny because uh,

495
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of the car cultures

496
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: outside of Houston don't funk with the poking rims. They're like, like, man,

497
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: they don't funk with the yeah, car clean, but the

498
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: rims look like trash, so they really don't. Man. Especially,

499
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: it's funny, like all my brothers in California, they'll be

500
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: going at it with all my holies to Texas, where

501
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: it'd be like ship because the cars be a little

502
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: bit different. But car car lovers everywhere, you know, they

503
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: got a love for that candy paint. Man, when you

504
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: got that that paint is so well to look like

505
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: a jolly rancher. The painting look like it looked like

506
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: you just sprayed it with a with a water holes.

507
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that, Man, it's just it's

508
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: just something about that, especially when it's clean. You got

509
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: candy paying this dirty man, I'm the definition of riding dirty. Man.

510
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 1: I should be so dirty. But man, when when that

511
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: should be cleaned up and you're looking good? Man, ain't

512
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: nothing like a wet candy car. Man, Ain't nothing like

513
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: a slab on candy man. For so, now, how did

514
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: you get into grills? Because most rappers, no one is

515
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: thinking like that, Like how did you? How did your mind?

516
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 1: Even like every business I got into, it was I

517
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: want that. How can I get a cheaper? I can

518
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: get a cheaper if I sell it. Then if I'm

519
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: just a customer, so how can I sell it? And

520
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: then let me, you know, let me learn the game

521
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: whatever anything any business I have or have ever had,

522
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: so with that, it was always wanted one. I wanted

523
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: to grill. But you know in the South, it was

524
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: always permanent grills. You know, you would go to a

525
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: Dinnis to do the grills and then you know you

526
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: couldn't get no removable grills, nothing like that. That's what

527
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: we would always see and ship everywhere period. And then

528
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: all of a sudden we see Wu Tang on the

529
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: videos taking the grills out. We're like, man, what's going on?

530
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: They did they do that? I won't want new grill.

531
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: We ain't have nothing like that, Yeah, perfectly. So then uh,

532
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, my boy crime came from Brooklyn. He came

533
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: with the removable style grills to Houston. He's still selling

534
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: grills to He like a traveling grills salesman. He go

535
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: all around the country, out around the world selling grills.

536
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: But he came to Houston to our neighborhood selling New

537
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: York style grills, you know, removable grills, and it was

538
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: cheaper than the other grills. We're like, man, what's going on.

539
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: He's some flea market grills. He's some like beauty shop

540
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: grill win shot grills. What's going because you know you

541
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: can get the one little tooth to come on? Come on,

542
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: we ain't talking like we're talking about like the custom

543
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: removable all of that. We're like, man, hold on. Everything

544
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: he had was just some next level of different ship.

545
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: And I would always see him was at that time too,

546
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm passing out flyers promoting that clubs. And then I bam,

547
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: see his flyer on the car, so I bump into him.

548
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: He see me. He like, oh, you're the one who've

549
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: been passing out these flyer And I'm like, man, you

550
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: do one who selling grills and you're like I just

551
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: straight up total. He wanted me to work for him

552
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: doing promotions. I'm like, bed, I want to work for you,

553
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: but ship, I need that wholesale price. You know. I

554
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: ain't gonna start my own store without you. Nothing like

555
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: that I needed for my own personal use. So he

556
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: hired me to promote, had me promoting for me, actually

557
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: had me running the store selling grills, and that's how

558
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: I got my first set of grills. Was you know

559
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: how to make grills yourself? Oh yeah, oh yeah, but

560
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: you you know finish from yeah, from taking your mold

561
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: to casting the gold. I ain't now now I ain't.

562
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: I ain't. I can't front if you if I say you,

563
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: if I get your grill like your grills, you ain't

564
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: give me the verse. I like to take your mold,

565
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: let me take your over trying to set before Hey,

566
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: Sue said the man you know so yeah, yeah, but

567
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: man from there was boy corn. He had me up

568
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: onund of him and then eventually he just he brought

569
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: me to Johnny where we was just salesman. Johnny made

570
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: everything from scratch. At that point, Johnny was, you know,

571
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: on his rise to start him, you know, being a

572
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: grill maker and hen like, man, you know what, it's

573
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: about time for me to get a story. That's right

574
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: around the time when we linked up, and then we

575
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: just kind of took it to another level. And then

576
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: him being a Vietnamese immigrant, it'd be tough sometimes. Man.

577
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: The story this is, this is like one time I

578
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: hung out with t V. Johnny is one of the

579
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: motherfucker most you know, he got the Ellis Access. Yeah.

580
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: So I had just said, l A. I was with

581
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: sip TV and I think we just hooting the video

582
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: for these people mastercraft. So TV Johnny comes, Johnny Dade

583
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: comes to h I think he was filming in the

584
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: Roxy in l A on the sunset. So I'm like, yo,

585
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm mad happy. I went to Watts, I went to Carpton,

586
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: I went to Inglewood. I went to all these hoods

587
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: and um l A. So the whole time, I'm saying, man,

588
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: I just went to all the hoods in l a TV.

589
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: Johnny looked at me and said, man, there's no hood.

590
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: They eat my dog. Yeah, yeah, Ship. I'm trying to

591
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: identify what the fun is being hood and eating his

592
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: dog somebody. Because I said, you can't just tell me

593
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: something like yeah, just move on. I need to know

594
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: why you just said that. He said, Man, I had

595
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: my pet one day. I said, said, yeah, my dog.

596
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 1: I went to the store. I leave on my side

597
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: take him And I said what? And then later on

598
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: and he said, they gave me and play the fool

599
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: I eat my dog with them. I said, that's the

600
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: story I heard. Never forget it. I'll never forget it.

601
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: We went to Ever. We went to We didn serially.

602
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: We was in the village and he was like, oh,

603
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: I should remind me that we say this is from

604
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, this is ship. Yeah. He's like, man,

605
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: it's just like being on you. Well, Tago got the

606
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: room and went to the actual. Man. It was so dope, bro,

607
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: just like you know, first of all, going over there,

608
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: going to Africa, it's something that's like, Man, that's the

609
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: mothers going to Africa tomorrow to enjoy. Brother, they enjoy.

610
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna man, You're gonna love it. Man, every everything

611
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: period there was like just just being there. It was

612
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: just a whole experience, breathing in the air. I'm taking

613
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: it all and you know, I'm man, see this is

614
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: where the people got one hands from, Like the I

615
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: don't know what I keep saying that, you don't know

616
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: what I keep coming out with. It was crazy. Man.

617
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: When the Raquel, when she came to us to do it,

618
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: my boy Te Ferris was like, man, I don't know

619
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: if we want Paula to go to Africa, you're gonna

620
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: come back with the Daishiki even had no grill, He's

621
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: gonna take Ain't gonna be on the same, gonna be

622
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: a different because everybody always you know, think about Dave

623
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: Chappelle when he went to Good then he turned down

624
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: fifty million, so that's what he said, You like, man

625
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: on with that fifty million, come we need to sign

626
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: the check, you know. But I was just like, now,

627
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: whatever it is, you know, even if it do transform

628
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: me personally, and also being at the time when I

629
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: just had I just had my son, So it's like

630
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: you put it just puts the whole world in perspective,

631
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: you know, just especially growing up in Houston, leaving Houston

632
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: to go to other cities and then going to other

633
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: continents and other a little completely different worlds. You know,

634
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: it's it's it's an amazing thing that I this is

635
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: my dream job. Man. I appreciate every second and all

636
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: of that. Then to really be educated on the diamonds

637
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: and all that things I ain't know about it, So

638
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: to put us on what did you learn out there? Okay,

639
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: First of all, the ships corrupt as fun, just like

640
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: it is everywhere worldwide, you know, ship and man, people

641
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: being exploited. All the stories you hear about Africa being

642
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: exported for their resources, that should be real talk like

643
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: people don't be understanding that this this is a world

644
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: where every human came from and now it seems like

645
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: every other country and continent has exploited it in a

646
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: long way or continue to so. Man with the diamonds specifically, okay,

647
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: they had a civil war in the nineties where it

648
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: was you know, it was it was crazy and like

649
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: a lot of they of course they got the movie

650
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: with Leonardo DiCaprio, Blood Diamond. He kind of talks about

651
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,239
Speaker 1: explaining some of it, but you know, it would be

652
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: basically rebels who would take over the diamond mines and

653
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: then trade the diamonds for drugs or trade them for

654
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: guns or things like that. And there was some crazy

655
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: ship child soldiers out there, you know, like thirteen fourteen,

656
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: fifteen years old soldiers, and you know they would come

657
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 1: in and you know, completely destroy a village and can

658
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: out the kids. Then put the cocaine in the coffee

659
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: of the kids and and drug them and brainwashed them

660
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: into thinking somebody else did it as different. Oh, completely sure.

661
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: First of all, you know, things I didn't understand what

662
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: the Kimberley process where if you buy a dim If

663
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm a jeweler and I go buy my diamonds wholesale,

664
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: it needs to be registered through the Kimberly process. Now

665
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: what that means is when the diamond is mind in

666
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 1: the mind. And they got different minds. They got like

667
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 1: flint stones looking minds, just like a big gass pit,

668
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: and they got these big gas machines, and then they

669
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: got the watermines where they're out there sitting in the mud. Yeah,

670
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: so there's there might be more, you know, our caves

671
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: and us, but what we saw, that's what I saw.

672
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: So they are and when they mind basically everything from

673
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: who own the on the mind who's actually mining. There's

674
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: it's like labor laws, Like a lot of this ship

675
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: is corrupt, so they'll pay. Man, they would get like

676
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: a dollar a day. Some ship thirty ninety cents a

677
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: day and a bowl of rice. That was their pay

678
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: for being out there in the mud sitting through the diamonds.

679
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 1: They ain't write the ninety cents a day. And you know,

680
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: so things like they where you know, there's there's not

681
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: like labor laws on that type of ship. You know,

682
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy, man, to see that it's like this.

683
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: And then the crazy perspective is just just living in

684
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: this civilization, Western civilization where you're taught that you know,

685
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: the diamond is you know, that's a symbol of success,

686
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: that's a symbol of achievement, of pride to show off.

687
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: But then to see when you try trace back where

688
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: it came from all the way and not all diamonds

689
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: are mind like that, through child labor and things like that,

690
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: but the ones that are, it's like it just it

691
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: just makes you think about all, like, man, what is

692
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: it really worth it? You know, who was getting paid

693
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: off of this? And then you see you know. So

694
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: that's why for me going out there, it was important

695
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: that Johnny came with me because I'm like, bro, we

696
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: gotta come out there because there's certain things on the

697
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: business and that I don't know. I don't you know

698
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: the people that you know, he the businessman when it

699
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 1: comes to negotiating all that type of ship. I'm the

700
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: marketing person where I'm the face of the company, you know,

701
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: So he do what he do. I do it. Don't

702
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: change anything you did based on how you off Top

703
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: before that, we you know, we didn't even know of

704
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: the Kimberly process, so all of that, you know. And

705
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: then of course Johnny being from Vietnam where it's the country,

706
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: the life that it was the same, it was a

707
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: lot similar to what we saw, it touched him as well.

708
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: So for sure, off Top we switched our diamond hostel

709
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: up and make sure they were going through the Chimerley

710
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: process the ones before. Now let me say this and

711
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: what the Chimley process. Let me finish it. When you

712
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: mind it, you know, when you mind the diamond, you

713
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: have to you find the diamond. You gotta you know,

714
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: if I own the diamond, mind, I gotta get it.

715
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: Each diamond registered. Then when it's sold whoever it's sold too,

716
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: there's like a it's got a number registered to it

717
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: so it can be tracked where exactly it came from.

718
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: Now it's you know, with anything on the black market,

719
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: you can you're diamond when I when we were when

720
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: we out there at people in the hotel, like you

721
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: need some diamonds, And I'm like, man, ain't just like

722
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: damn that? Like, man, that be well, I'm just tripping

723
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: to myself thinking like, man, what type of person like

724
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: the flood on the diamonds. I'm glad we weren't out

725
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: there to get the plug on the diamonds, were out

726
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: there to try to understand or you know, it's I

727
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: think it would be kind of like I mean, I

728
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: can't say like we can change the world and we

729
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: can change it, but we personally have to make a change,

730
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: you know. I think that's what you doing. Yeah, that's

731
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: where after that. Oh yeah, the holy experience out there, bro,

732
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,959
Speaker 1: it was everything you know of Uh, you know, we

733
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: got the U n escorting us. You met all the

734
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: mutilated kids also thinking we met some of them. There's

735
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: like a village to it, like it's it's some of

736
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: it's it's just you know, you see kind of like

737
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: growing up here, man, you know, we first you taught

738
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: that everything is perfect, and then you realize it's all

739
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: lives and bullshit. And then later on you realize the

740
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: whole world is like that. You know, that's kind of

741
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: how it was for me. Like I grew up thinking it, oh,

742
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: America is great, and like, damn, this is funked up

743
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: how it happened or how it still is. And then

744
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: you go out to other places in the world, you like,

745
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: damn the world. It really the world really fucked up.

746
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: How we treat each other man's crazy. Man, So let's

747
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: take it back, right, you and Johnny, you link up.

748
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: He got crime, links you up with Johnny, right, all right,

749
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: And Johnny's already doing it. He's already. He's already Johnny

750
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: was at that time. This is Johnny's basic story. He

751
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: came from Vietnam. Johnny actually has a crazy story within

752
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: his personal family. His uncle was a general in the

753
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: army in Vietnam. The commune side or the side is

754
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: down with America. His uncle escaped from Vietnam. He was

755
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: in jail. He escaped as a prisoner a war. It

756
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: took him eighteen times. On his eighteenth time, he finally

757
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: escaped and made it to America, got a political stylum

758
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: everything here, and then one by one his family would

759
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: come over. Johnny made it here when he was young,

760
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: I think just out of high school. Um, like he

761
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: might have just graduated like some time around like that,

762
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 1: and he went to school. He started off doing jewelry repair.

763
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: He was man. His first six months here. I think

764
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: he said he made five dollars his first six months,

765
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: and he was like, man, this is the greatest in

766
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: the world. It was like, you know, as a as

767
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: a community, like has going back to Vietnam, saying a

768
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: few times I tried to reach out when we did,

769
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: I also went to Vietnam. We did a film out

770
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: that I was trying to reach out to them to

771
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: be in the film. You should have win, Yeah, I

772
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: mean I just wanted to get like an interview from

773
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: him about going. Yeah, it's already done, but I mean

774
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: I want to go back. Man, maybe loved it. So

775
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: what's it called coming home Vietnam? Thanks a lot, buddy,

776
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: coming Yeah, that's what we got checked out. Back in

777
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: the days they used to have to say, who is

778
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: Mike Jones right now. It was where is Mike Jones at?

779
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: Where is that nick guy? Man? Yeah? Man, your guests

780
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: might be as good as mine. Maybe the number still works,

781
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: call it the number? What happened? They don't? I think

782
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: he actually, I think the phone company actually like tried

783
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: to sue him because of that number, because they like, man,

784
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: he don't have it no more so whoever has like

785
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: they can't use it as a number. You know what

786
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because they whoever it is like right now

787
00:38:53,400 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: is people texting college. It's dumb. Shout out Mike Jones away. Yeah, man,

788
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: we wish you the best man ship. You know, what's

789
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: what's up? Man? What it is? Got slimmed up bun

790
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: y'all got you, you got you got z, We got

791
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: my boy and trade the truth. We got Agan Stallion.

792
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: Shout out Magan Stadion. Lizzo, uh Lizzo from Houston to

793
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: Travis Scott, Sauce twins, Travis Scott, none of your niggers

794
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: niggas from Yeah, that's what's ill about it. You know

795
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: he definitely from move yeah yeah, and he gets the

796
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: biggest tribute though. Yeah. I think about that too, because

797
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: you know we've Throughout the years, there's been other artists

798
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: that have come out of Houston that didn't come with

799
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,959
Speaker 1: the traditional age town sound, you know what I'm saying,

800
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: But he for sure took it to another level. But

801
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: I think, you know what his style he has more

802
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: of like you know, I think he's a kind of affected.

803
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: It's you know, I have a bias being from Houston,

804
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna look at him like, oh yeah, you know,

805
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: he god, you know, but because he's yeah, yeah, because

806
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: he's successful. So I'm rooting for him. I want to

807
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: see all these for sure, but you know, just seeing

808
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: just you know, just how you do his thing with

809
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: the production and the rapp and then for him to man,

810
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: man he on Saturday Night that Kardashian sex bring you

811
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: right to the top with shout out to the kardash

812
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,479
Speaker 1: We've seen him on Saturday Night Live. Oh DJ screw

813
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: in the background, them type of things. It's like, man,

814
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: you know, and that kind of just goes to show. Like,

815
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: you know, even from Houston or whatever wherever you're from.

816
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: You know, if we got a wide variety of flavors,

817
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, we do have our best

818
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: selling flavors but we got a wide variety of flavors

819
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: shout out yeah yeah, And I wanted the people to

820
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: know that. Paul Walter said he's not drinking today, So

821
00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: I Am not drinking up. It's going in and expect that.

822
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: So because you know, some people come out here and

823
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: they don't don't drink it like they drinking some time,

824
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't like that. You know, I

825
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: want to join my guests. Now we have guests that

826
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: don't don't come on or don't smoke or drink. But

827
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: it spa corse like Joe. But we had Joe button

828
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: on I'm saying his name right nine because they was

829
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: both they both felt like they were acn um well

830
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: not Acon voice and um Joe. They felt like they

831
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: were addicts at one point and that's the reason why

832
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: they don't indulge anymore any time I want, right, so

833
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: you don't still with or do you? Or do you huh?

834
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: Or do I mean? You know? It's when you get

835
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: older and then being a parent and then being a

836
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: role model and actually seeing kids and then also having

837
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: conversations with other artists and CEOs from Houston, from the

838
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: eras that raised me and having them type of talks

839
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: with them and get you a different perspective on the influence,

840
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: where if I talk about it in a rapp or

841
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: even if I make a whole song about it and

842
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm wearing a activist shirt or something, you yeah, but

843
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: shall still got it. But even then I don't. It's

844
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: at the jury store. Some of it is, Like, man,

845
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: how much of it is it just representing the culture

846
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: or how much when is it turned from that to

847
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: promoting the culture and promoting the misinformation of things? And

848
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: then you know, it's like, man, we got parents on

849
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: there trying to band boycott us. These kids that get

850
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: on the internet and day like this, they look like

851
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: and they can't stay up Like that's like, yeah, some

852
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: of it is, but I mean, you know, I think

853
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: most of them not sitting drank though I think most

854
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: of them is taking someone's and popping pills and others.

855
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: But you know, and that's the it Definitely at some

856
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: point it went because it's it's so funny man, being

857
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: in you know, have grown up music. Leaving my musical

858
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 1: career or when I signed to a major or whatever,

859
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: you're going around the country recience drink. We asked you know,

860
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: what's drinking or whatever. And then I just you know,

861
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: certain places I'll go. I remember being in places and

862
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: there was some very high powered people in the room

863
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: and we sit and drank. They're looking at us like

864
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: we're complete crackheads, and I'm like, damn, they're looking at

865
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: it like we crackheads. But they was snorm cocaine, like yeah,

866
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: and we just like damn. It's just funny to see,

867
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: like how drink has just globally become accepted now, you know,

868
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: like it's rapping. Like I was looking on Instagram's rappers

869
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: in Africa talking about sit and drink and I'm like, damn, man,

870
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: it's going down. And it's the other things like I

871
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: got a homeboy from Poland. I went to Poland. He's like,

872
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: I got a present for you. What's up. It's some

873
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: Poland drink. I'm like, damn, what's going down? And for

874
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: so anytime we go to Mexico, we always you know,

875
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: and my farmer see you know, but you know, it

876
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: ain't and they make it different all around the world,

877
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But it is it is

878
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: cough serve all around the world. You know, you had

879
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: one song to represent your your whole career like like

880
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: like everything just once on to represent Paul or what

881
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: would that song be? Uh? Man, that's a good one

882
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: man ship, dude. It's definitely been a journey of career, man,

883
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: my whole my This is my dream job. So I

884
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: look at this as my career like ship, every aspect

885
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: of whatever, even if it parlay and the other businesses.

886
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: This is my dream job, dream career. I'm gonna do

887
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: this as long as I'm able and capable, man, you know,

888
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I think, you know. For so

889
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: I would maybe say drive slow because you know it's

890
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: not not friends would say maybe drive slow would be?

891
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: And what what artists from the town inspired you? And

892
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: then from outside of the time. For sure, Lott Kiki

893
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: was my biggest inspiration. He um. You know I grew

894
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: up on the era the screwed up Click everybody screwed

895
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: up Drake talk about no no, no, you know these

896
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: little look crazy you know what I mean and everything?

897
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

898
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: So yeah. Look, he's basically the originator of a lot

899
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: of the Houston culture, especially when it comes to rapping

900
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: about the culture, putting on you know, having him, you know,

901
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'd be a incredible guest because he can

902
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: give you know, all kind of background history. You know,

903
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: it was it was him. It was him fat patting

904
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: DJ screw started off and then you know, there was

905
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: definitely it was people involved, like you run see what

906
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: to do for sure, those people involved, like in the

907
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: streets like Corey Blunt, who was like a key figure

908
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: where he you know, the cars he was, you know,

909
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: one of the people in the streets making the money.

910
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: So he had his cars right, so it was like

911
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: an inspiration for everyone. You know, the way we do

912
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: our cars now was all of you know, he inspired

913
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: me for show the most. He was my favorite rapper

914
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: still is he the greatest rapper to me still is

915
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, his wordplay, the things he would say, also

916
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: just representing put it on for the for the Houston culture,

917
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: being that he was somebody out looked to. He was

918
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: from where I'm from, from the city I'm from. He

919
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: represented where I'm from, where I looked at him as

920
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: being somebody you know, up high, who who's professional, who

921
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: made it, whose elite? You know what I'm saying. Where

922
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: ship he from where I'm from? Ship that's that's exactly

923
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: who I would want to be. You know, definitely he's

924
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: my favorite, But he didn't answer from side who was

925
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: murder from outside the town inspired, I would say maybe

926
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: b G Um Maybe yeah, how boys? For sure BG

927
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: was my favore. B G and juvenile there was my favorite,

928
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: uh b G for sure. I think because I had

929
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: the best collection, the biggest collection of his music. For

930
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: sure that that was. Even though I maybe didn't pattern

931
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 1: my rap style off of him, um, he definitely inspired

932
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: me a lot. Just a lot of that too, came

933
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: from the locality of where he You know, any any

934
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: local rapper, they're my favorite rapper Man Snoop Dogg. They

935
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: don't get more local than that. He long Beach Light,

936
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: but he's global, you know, you know any local global, Yeah,

937
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: I understand, But you know, all the local rappers are

938
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: always are my favorite. You know, when you when you

939
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: ascend with your career, they want you to be more

940
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 1: mainstream so more people can funk with it. But sometimes

941
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: you lose your local news. But the local rappers are

942
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: always the dopest to me, many my favorite. Now you

943
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: got like the eminem past. Like what I mean by

944
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: that is like you know how most people they will

945
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: be like, oh, logic is dope, But then they'll say,

946
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: logic is dope for a white white boy, you know

947
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And then they'll say, uh, you know

948
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: MC searches dope before a white guy. I don't hear

949
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: people say that about you, like I hear people say

950
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,479
Speaker 1: Paul Walls, and I hear people say Eminem is dumpe,

951
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: like like, how does how does that resonate with you?

952
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm very grateful to people appreciate me

953
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: in any capacity, and they say, are dope for somebody

954
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: to wear a hat? You know? Even that, you know,

955
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: it's like at least they think I'm dope because you know,

956
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: I got bullied, I got picked on. So I'm I'm

957
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: glad I got friends. Now I got my real friends.

958
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: Shout out to my real ones, man, Hey, what's up here?

959
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: Shout out to my boy Perier out there? Google, what's up? Google?

960
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: Ty Fair, all my real ones out there. But you

961
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: know it's funny because we'll think about it, like, well,

962
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: like me and my boys will laugh about that, like

963
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: when they had like the top ten greatest white rappers

964
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: ever and I ain't on the list, Top twenty, top fifty,

965
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: and we'll be like, damn, I know I'm better than

966
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: some of them. But you know, it's like, okay, I said,

967
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: I don't know how we traded you A long time ago.

968
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: I forgot I got traded you for I think Grave

969
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: Brady my man. Yeah, but they hey, but man, you know,

970
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. Some of it is like dogs sterling,

971
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: just ting. I don't know. I don't know how I

972
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: should feel being you know, like I never cared. I

973
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: never wanted to be a white rapper. I never wanted that.

974
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 1: And then growing up in Texas, a lot of times

975
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: people thought I was, especially with a low hit because

976
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: they like, oh he Hispanic, or he mixed, or Frenchman

977
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: from Louisiana. They is one of the three Frenchman. Yeah yeah,

978
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: but they called him Frenchman. That's what I want to be,

979
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: a Frenchman. I want to be a Frenchman. Mixtape Frenchman.

980
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: I think I think some of that too, being on

981
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: the Switchhouse mixtapes. My voice is slowed. It's pre Internet,

982
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: so you can't google what somebody looked like, so you

983
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 1: didn't know how what I look like. You hear my music,

984
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: it's already slowed down, so it's already got effects on it,

985
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: so you really didn't know what I will what you know,

986
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 1: what I looked like. And then I think sometimes people

987
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: make excuses up like that just because to give me

988
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: a pass, like or not here he got to be missing. No, no, no,

989
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: because it's funny. Man. One time I was in Florida,

990
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: had the show and start six nine uh Roy Jones

991
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: Junior Club in Pensacola. Uh And it was like one

992
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: of my first shows, me and come in there, and

993
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: I was at the bar before I'm about to go on.

994
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: It was a sold out show. It was you know,

995
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: it was because we was rocking it back then, just

996
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: even on the mixtape. Sold out show and I'm just

997
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: at the bar getting to drink. Somebody next to me

998
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: say his homeboy, hey man, when I went Paul Walk

999
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: going on, Man, how long we gotta wait till Paul

1000
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: Walk going on? I turned to him and said, oh,

1001
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: what's up, bro, I'm going like fifteen twenty minutes. He

1002
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: looked me up up and down my head like he's

1003
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: about to steal off on me. I'm like, oh, you know,

1004
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: I'm like whatever, you know, all right, that's what's up?

1005
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: And then I left. I'm like whatever. Then after the

1006
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: so he came up to me. He was like, damn,

1007
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was you. I mean, I he

1008
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: just straight up to him. He's like, man, I don't

1009
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: mean no offense, but I hate white people. Man. He

1010
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: told me. He was like, I hate the white people.

1011
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: He said, so, he said, but really you're my favorite

1012
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: rather so when you told me that at the bar,

1013
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, who then is that? And I'm like, he said,

1014
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: then I come on stage, so he told me. He

1015
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: told me, I mean, I'm torn between two words like

1016
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: I like you because you're my favorite rapper. I hate

1017
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: you because you're white. And you know, I'll just that

1018
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: just man. It was so whoever that was man, you

1019
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: still out there. Man, ain't much love to you. I

1020
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: get a discount on the grill. That's some, but you

1021
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: know some of it too, man. I just personally, I

1022
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: don't like think back. I think because sometimes I see

1023
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: white rappers and they'll come to me like man, a

1024
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: lot of times, man, you know all man, all the time,

1025
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 1: white rappers come to me for advice on different things.

1026
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: You know, uh rappers are always coming, you know, they

1027
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: come me to say, how do I be a white rapper?

1028
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: I don't want imagine did they say that in so

1029
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: many words? You know, it'd be I get asked some

1030
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: some questions, it will be I think, how could you

1031
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: ask somebody that? Or how could you even think that? Like,

1032
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: you know, my advice to anybody you want somebody like

1033
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: you just be really yourself because if they don't like you.

1034
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: For me and faith, yeah, but so so I mean,

1035
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: but it's funny sometimes. But at the same time, I

1036
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: don't know, because growing up I had friends of all races.

1037
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: For sure, most of my friends were black, but I

1038
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,959
Speaker 1: had Asian friends too, had a lot of Messican friends

1039
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: or Hispanic. I had friends who were other Dominican other

1040
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: things too, were not just mixing but Guatemala, uh you know. So,

1041
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: but for sure, most of my friends were for sure black.

1042
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: I had some white friends, but the white boys in

1043
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: my neighborhood were the ones that would beat me up,

1044
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: bullying me. So it was ship. It was, you know,

1045
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: that's just how it was for me that coming in there,

1046
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: like I grew up coming in my whole life. So

1047
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: me and they were friends, you know, since the kindergarten.

1048
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: Damn there you know what I'm saying. So you know,

1049
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: not only him, but all our friends from that area.

1050
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: We all you know, came up together. We are very

1051
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: similar and everything we do, you know what I'm saying.

1052
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: But and we all had friends of all races. But

1053
00:52:55,360 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: being white sometimes it's like, you know, when they don't

1054
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: have me on the list, it'd be funny like ship

1055
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: then at the same time, but like, well, that's I

1056
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: don't want to be seen as a white rapper or

1057
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: none of that. I just want people to see me

1058
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: for being dope or whatever. But definitely you know, being white,

1059
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: being dope for a white rapper or being dope. Are

1060
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: you dope for such and such? You dope for a girl?

1061
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: You don't do that? Yeah, so I wouldate to Yeah,

1062
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, I mean, it's good to be

1063
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: appreciated to be considered dope, but it's also you could

1064
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: be dope, not just for one aspect. Ever had a beef.

1065
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you and I'm thinking, like, you know,

1066
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: you're you're always been positive, so I'm thinking like, like,

1067
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: I know you don't commit that, but y'all y'all beef

1068
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: for a little while. But like it was more it

1069
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: was a lyrical it was more like just personal, but

1070
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: with him it was real. It was personal because we

1071
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: were best friends and then we took separate paths and

1072
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, but it's very great. Shout out to pen

1073
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: c Man. Pence has had a huge He's a huge

1074
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: reason why we reconcile. He talked to us individually. I'll

1075
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: also shot to Eforty, the two biggest people it was.

1076
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: You know, I mean some of it is like not

1077
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: worth talking about because you know, bringing up all ship,

1078
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: but you know, it's just we had different views on

1079
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: certain things or you know, sometimes money might have been

1080
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: involved or whatever. We just it was meant for us

1081
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: to take separate paths. So when it was meant for

1082
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: that to happen, that happened. And thank you know, thankfully

1083
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: we kept it off Wax so that you know what

1084
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know, some of them this is you

1085
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: go back even when you're cool. You're like, damn said

1086
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: that about me? God, you know, so uh, you know,

1087
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 1: it's like, man, you know, we thank god, we thankfully,

1088
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: thankfully we kept it off Wax. But Eforty was the

1089
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: first one to say, man, y'all tripping you know, how

1090
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: much money y'all can make and by the time you

1091
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: realize that that opportunity is gonna be gone, nobody's gonna

1092
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: care no more, or they're gonna be on to the

1093
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: next or something like the forties. Always tell us man,

1094
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: because Eforty fused with both of us, he gave us

1095
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: both advice. We was cool anyway, we was friends, but

1096
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: he was like a effort for sure. It was a

1097
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: big mentor in the game. But specific league, Man, you

1098
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: and Commed are tripping. Then pm C said it too,

1099
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: it's like legends. And then pm C like he came

1100
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: to he spoke individually to both of us, Man, what's

1101
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: up with you? Commed there, man, what's the problem. Okay,

1102
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: you're tripping? He tripping to funk that y'all making y'all tripping?

1103
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 1: His money out there, y'all can be making all this money.

1104
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: Y'all ain't got to get along, e man. Before they

1105
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if they talked before they talked to us,

1106
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: but they both told us the same. You know, it

1107
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: was like man. And then when he put us in

1108
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: the song Knocking Doors Down, he shot us out. Then

1109
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: even before that, you know, the public will come, what's

1110
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: up with your COMMUNI it, what's up with you? Commit?

1111
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 1: What's up with you? Comman? It's cool whatever. Then eventually

1112
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: sometimes people will the public will die down, like we

1113
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: always to touch yourselfject if don't ask him about that,

1114
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: even when it ain't touch yourself, you no more. And

1115
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: still they'd be like, oh, I don't respect, I don't

1116
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: want to ask you about this or that. You know.

1117
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 1: But then you know, pm C put us in the verse.

1118
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: Everybody he said commit still eight talking oh money speak

1119
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: out that boys keep walking. He basically caught out all

1120
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: the Houston rappers saying, y'all tripping with each other were

1121
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: beef and we need to come together. But he say uh.

1122
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: When he said that, then every all the public say damn, man,

1123
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do? Damn and everybody like it's like

1124
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: it made it cool to come talk to us about it.

1125
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: And then it was and it really forced us to

1126
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: come together. And especially when PIMPS passed away, it was like, hey,

1127
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: we gotta do this for pim C. Man. You know

1128
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: you know it's it's for pim C. You know for

1129
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: sure that he had It was a huge reason why

1130
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: we came back together. Squad stuff B and we used

1131
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: to pimp let us um and jail. You wasn't You

1132
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: wasn't yet I was. That was kind of like it

1133
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: was like during my attension, you know what I'm saying.

1134
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: And then there's different levels. There's you know, you could

1135
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: be a one hit one, that you could be an

1136
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: underground mixtape, you know. Person Once you get on the

1137
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: radio is different. Once you're on TV and the magazines

1138
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: is real different. And it's an era before the Internet,

1139
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: before smartphones and ship. So you know, you didn't you

1140
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: couldn't find out about other artists unless it was put

1141
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: in front of your face, you know, unless you go

1142
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 1: to that CD and go to a record store. You know, ship.

1143
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: The only way you hear it is if if they

1144
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: played on the radio, which is somebody else controlling, or

1145
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: they played on TV, which is somebody else controlling, or

1146
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: there's it ship. You know, you it's tough to hear

1147
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: about you guys. Address and just said let me just

1148
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: addresses man, big bro who to dude. She're a big

1149
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: fan of course. And at that time too, you know,

1150
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: I was, I was already making a name for myself

1151
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: with Switchhouse, and then some of it too is you

1152
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: know when you say somebody, Hey, free pm C. You'

1153
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: say it on a rap. You know you ain't trying

1154
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: to be like false claiming saying that you know. Some

1155
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: of it yeah, you know, and some of it is

1156
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: people who they reached like a motherfucker. So it's like,

1157
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: if I don't know him, it's better to say, man,

1158
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: I ain't never met PIMC, but free him. I love him.

1159
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,959
Speaker 1: But if you act like, oh, that's my PENC, free PC,

1160
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: but you ain't never met him, it's like, what are

1161
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: you faking like a motherfucker? So you know some of

1162
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: that too, is you know, is how can I represent

1163
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: hold it down for him out here while he locked up,

1164
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: and communicate with him so that I can't represent, you know,

1165
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: not like I'm speaking for him and spokes for something

1166
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: like that, but just at least to communicate let him

1167
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: know that we're holding it down for yet. If you

1168
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: need something from any of whatever, we ship whatever here

1169
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's funny, you know. The type

1170
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: of advice he would give me would be like with

1171
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: messing with girls on the road, a man, she strap

1172
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: up them host dirty, you know, she like they don't

1173
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: leave your money out in your pockets they're gonna go

1174
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: through your pockets when you were taking a shower, watch out,

1175
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, ship like that, Like but that's real talk.

1176
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: Like you know, I ain't got you know, I ain't

1177
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: had to lose the role legs to learn that lesson.

1178
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Ship, you tell you for

1179
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm not a smoker. What are you smoking? Without smoking?

1180
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: I smoke backwards and these these papers not they're not

1181
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: lighting up these you gotta show. That's why I said, Man,

1182
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: I feel like a new ship like you just lighting

1183
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: in the smoke just hit you. He's killing Now what

1184
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: the fund comion there invested that? Now? They is the man?

1185
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, but put your boy down man on it.

1186
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: We need to told me he invested in lift. Somebody

1187
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: told me, yeah he Somebody told me he's with a

1188
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: hedge fund or something. That's you know. Anytime I talked

1189
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: to him, abody he telling me he's doing he's doing

1190
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: something involving a hedge fun. Yeah, they take your money,

1191
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: they invest in a bunch of ship. Yeah, what are

1192
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: you doing? I don't know. I'm going to get in

1193
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: on it, but I don't know what he's doing. But

1194
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: it's working for him because and he always tell me, man,

1195
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: I ain't retired, but what am I gonna do for

1196
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: other than for the love? So he'll still do verses

1197
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: like he did the verse for me on Swinging in

1198
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: the Rain remix. Anytime I ever asked him to do

1199
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: verse for me, you always did it. And you know,

1200
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: but for sure, you know, I'm sorry I pay. A

1201
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: lot of it is you just gotta let it go.

1202
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: If we bring it up and talk about it, we're

1203
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: gonna fight, We're gonna argue. We've got different opinions, perspective,

1204
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: we might both be right on whatever we're saying. But

1205
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: a lot of it is, hey, we went through what

1206
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: we went through this the past. God let us on.

1207
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: Now we're here. What we're gonna do about it. We're

1208
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: gonna go forward with this, be positive about this. So

1209
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna you know, And then some of it, too,

1210
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: is taking the responsibility of publicly beefing with someone else

1211
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: from your city like that, like you know it. It

1212
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: just sends more of a message that this is how

1213
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: to make it. Like people think, oh, if I troll you,

1214
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: you will respond, because if I compliment you, you're not

1215
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: gonna respond. And whatever they can do to get a

1216
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: response is cool because no one's they're getting overlooked. So

1217
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: it's whatever they can do to get some type of attention.

1218
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: So I don't know, you know, I think a lot

1219
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: of it is just letting it go and you know,

1220
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: appreciating the fact that God took us, like I said,

1221
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: brought us through things to make us who we are.

1222
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: And you know, I apologize for my own he apologift

1223
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: here or whatever, even if we ain't wrong. Man, look

1224
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: we we saw. Man, Let's make it work and then

1225
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: should go from there. Where was you at when you

1226
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: found out Bush with Bills? Because I know he had

1227
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: to be a legend to you as well. Man, I

1228
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: got crazy a couple of crazy stories about Bush with

1229
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: Bill just in dealing with him. Man, I got a man.

1230
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah he was, Man. I remember I met him. I

1231
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: was like twelve years old. This is like the first

1232
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: time I ever flew on the plane. It was in

1233
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: the airport around like one o'clock, I don't know, two

1234
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: o'clock noon. I don't even remember this because I met

1235
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: Bush Foo Bill and it was the first time I

1236
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: ever flew you know. So I'm a kid, so I'm like,

1237
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: I remember a lot of that you know, and so anyway,

1238
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean in Houston Airport, Hobby Airport, Um, some of

1239
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: these too. I know from fact checking with my mom.

1240
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: Hey mom, who was that? Oh that was Hobby. Yeah,

1241
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: I remember the extrememember. She knew Bush will be there too.

1242
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: So anyway we we. I see him in a uh

1243
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a kid, my mama doing something. My twel

1244
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: years old, so I'm, you know, almost a teenager. I

1245
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: see him sitting there with a bunch of luggage around him,

1246
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: in like a lounge area of a restaurant, just like

1247
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: you know, a restaurant whatever, just sitting there with a

1248
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: bunch of luggage and knocked out off top. I recognized him,

1249
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: but he's by himself. I'm like this bushell bill, Why

1250
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: ain't got a security rapple out mab with him? Everybody like,

1251
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: why are you by myself? I'm like them, Should I

1252
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: go talk to him? Count talk to him? Man? What's up?

1253
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: So I just said I'm gonna go talk to me

1254
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: and knocked out, passed out in a chair and I

1255
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: just go to him, shaking tam. You know, I looked

1256
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: back and I you know, I had I had an

1257
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: opportunity to telling me the story too before he passed away,

1258
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: you know. And but uh, you know, looking back, I realized, man,

1259
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, now I'm a kid. I ain't know. People

1260
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: need their space, you know. I'm like, damn, I was mad,

1261
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: just respectful, like coming up to waking on about to sleep,

1262
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: talking to him, but why and he like, or what's up?

1263
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: He wake up? Get up? Like what's going on? And

1264
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, and I'm what's up? Man? You Bill You're like, yeah, man, man,

1265
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: that's what's something. Nice to meet you man. And I'm

1266
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: just asking them like a kid questions. You ain't even

1267
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: asked for Instagram before. But I think I might have

1268
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,959
Speaker 1: did get his autograph, and if I did, I still

1269
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: have it because I have. I got Big Boys autographed

1270
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: to one time. I see, I got a story out

1271
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: to them. Okay, but yeah, but I met uh, I'm

1272
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: a man man. Yeah. But anyway, I'm a big fan

1273
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: of hip hop, especially back then. If someone would come

1274
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: to concert, it could be somebody I've never heard of,

1275
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: and I'll go I'm too young, just to see what

1276
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: they're looking like walking into the club or whatever, or

1277
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: see if I can meet him. You know, I never

1278
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: heard them just because it was hip hop. To me,

1279
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: it was dope. But anyway, uh, butcher Bill. I started

1280
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: talking to him and I'm like, you know whatever, having

1281
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: a kid conversation. Eventually I realized, like, I'm kind of

1282
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: tripping right now, man, and I'm thinking eventually people are

1283
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: gonna come back and they're gonna be like, what the

1284
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: are you doing? Talk? You know, you gotta go. So

1285
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, all right, bush Man, I'm ill

1286
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: let you and I left, you know, And I was

1287
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: there and okay then when I work, you know, and

1288
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: it was just a great positive interaction. But I thought

1289
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: that's how all rappers were. They want to talk to

1290
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: you whatever they'll work up about. They I'll just sleep

1291
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: to talk to you. So then I'll go to the

1292
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: later on in life when I'm working for Death Jam.

1293
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: It was an artist that I'm promoting the hardest funk

1294
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: for bringing his records to the DJ's, putting his posters up,

1295
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: passing his flies out. He come to town. I try

1296
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: to highlight him, thinking he's gonna be bush with cool

1297
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: ast fun, thinking he knows what I'm doing for him.

1298
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: He was rude as fun like man. It was a

1299
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: complete opposite interaction. Is what was Bush With? And it

1300
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: was like, damn, you don't know. I'm working my ass

1301
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: out for you. You won't he ain't even rapping. I

1302
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: don't even remember what. I'm sure if I go back

1303
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: to whatever year it was, I can think back the

1304
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: and ex off the list. It wasn't him wonting him

1305
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: on him. Okay, it was him, but whoever it is,

1306
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: he ain't rapping no more. But then that that led

1307
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: me to be the people's champ because I'm like, I

1308
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: want to be like bush With. I want my interaction

1309
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: to be positive. When someone walk away from seeing me,

1310
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: they like, damn, they got smile on, They're facing, They're like, man,

1311
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm at Paul. That's real. Then he cool as fuck.

1312
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't want it to be man, fuck him. I

1313
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: ain't never listen to his music again. I should have

1314
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: stole off on him. Damn, man, I'm gonna go at

1315
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: him on a song like That's how people be like you, man,

1316
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: you shoot on people like that. So I'm like, man,

1317
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: I want to be more like bush With. Now let

1318
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: me tell you when I'm made a big boy. It

1319
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: was like a few years later, maybe like I might

1320
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: have been still a kid I was still a kid.

1321
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: I might have been like I might have been like

1322
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen. So it was around the same time as

1323
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 1: I was working for De jim Me and come in there.

1324
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: It was like, well, we was just old enough to drive,

1325
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: but we ain't had a car. So they had a

1326
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: concert come through Houston and it was outcast I believe

1327
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: it was Air Cobato and it was The Roots and

1328
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: Cypress I believe, yeah, it was. It was Ship. It

1329
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: was crazy, but it was at the time when all

1330
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: of them were new artists too, so it was like

1331
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: quest Love opened up that I mean on that question,

1332
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: Love or the Roots. I met quest Love there too.

1333
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: He was cool as too. He's just standing at the

1334
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, one of the Witch Boost and I'm going

1335
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: up to him like, oh ship that you want to say,

1336
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: then that's crazy that I'm going back. Me and community, Okay,

1337
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: Me and comedy was at the show. We're sitting at

1338
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: the the Okay. It's the center of Mitchell Woodlands Pavilion

1339
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: where it's outdoor pavilion. They got a lot of these

1340
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: all on the country, not the same name, but they

1341
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: got these type of venues where they got like front

1342
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: row seating and then they got like lawn seating in

1343
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: the back grass. Okay, so it'd be like it'd be

1344
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,959
Speaker 1: like a chair seating, and then it was a walk

1345
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: away and then it was like a six foot up

1346
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: chaired seating. So me and then behind that was all

1347
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: the grass. Okay. So me and Coming that's sit in

1348
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: the front row or the back chairs. So where the

1349
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: walkaway is in front of us, we're bouty like six

1350
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: ft up, eight feet up, but we're at the edge

1351
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: front row. So people walking so outcast before and they

1352
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: get off stage and they walked, they walked through h

1353
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: I see a big boy of walking and I'm like,

1354
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: he's walking with two security guards. I'm like, oh, ship,

1355
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: come in there. They'll go, big boy, damn, what's man?

1356
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: We gotta stop and we gotta like what are we

1357
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: gonna do? We way up here where like we gonna

1358
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: racing time. And also me and Coming are very different

1359
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: in these perspectives. Comed There has more of a Houston

1360
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: mind frame when it comes to celebrities and especially rappers.

1361
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: And this is the mind frame. I ain't gonna be

1362
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,919
Speaker 1: on his dick. I like them, but I'm not gonna

1363
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: ride his nuts. So that's like Ship the Houston mind

1364
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: frame would be a sold out show. Everybody mean mugging you.

1365
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: But they love you, but they just mean they don't

1366
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: want you to know they love you because they want

1367
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: to be embarrassed. So you know, they whatever, they don't

1368
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: want you to thinking they're on their nut. So I'm

1369
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: more of a man. I love that person. Let me

1370
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: go tell them I love them, you know. Come in

1371
01:07:58,200 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, I love them too, but I ain't

1372
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: gonna be on. So we're sitting there and don't we

1373
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: like just sit on the front row. But I'm like, man,

1374
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:06,439
Speaker 1: come in a big boy or whatever, you know whatever.

1375
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: Man I said, fucking I gotta go. I gotta say

1376
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: what's up. I just hop down, jump over the thing,

1377
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: just like I'm running from the cops. Jump over the fence.

1378
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: I hoped down, jump down by the six eight feet

1379
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 1: I land takes me down. Him and his bodyguards was like, WHOA,

1380
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: what's going on? What's going on? I'm still like somewhat

1381
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: of a kid. You can tell. I was like fifteen sixteen,

1382
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: so I might have looked adult tish, you know, I

1383
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: might have had like a little baby whisker mustache. But

1384
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: they can still tell them young, like I ain't gonna

1385
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: come up like fight him or nothing like that. But

1386
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: and they're like, what's going on, Like, man, big boy, MA,

1387
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm a fan. I'm just a fan, my fan, I'm

1388
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: a fan. Well, you know, can can you take can

1389
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: you sign something? He signed something for me? I still

1390
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: got that autograph to this day too. Uh, I said

1391
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: I would collect things like that. Like that's what I'm saying.

1392
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 1: I can't remember specifically now that you know, I for

1393
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: sure I got to go back and tell bush With.

1394
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I go, I gotta go see uh if

1395
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: I got that bush With autograph, I think I still

1396
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: doing it because I think it was on like a napkin.

1397
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,040
Speaker 1: But in anyway, I know a big boy signed in

1398
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: the actual ticket I still got there. But anyway, that

1399
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,799
Speaker 1: was my big Boys story. But going back to Bushwick,

1400
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: when I saw Bushwick, I mean later on, and I

1401
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 1: see him all the time, like I would see him

1402
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: at shows. We were you know, sometimes we performed together

1403
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: and we'd be kicking the backstage, chommling it up. He

1404
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: also has a son always I connected with for a

1405
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 1: while me and was was always real cool. We still

1406
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 1: you know still all but like over the years, you

1407
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I got to know him

1408
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: and his son, you know whatever through the years. But

1409
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: more recently when it came out that you know, he

1410
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: had stage for pancreatic cancer, that was kind of like where,

1411
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, they kind of did like a kind of

1412
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: call to action, you know, you fun with Bush with

1413
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: kind of let him know because clock kind of kicking,

1414
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was like one

1415
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: of the things where you know, I was, you know,

1416
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: for sure restopped just to tell him, man, how much

1417
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate him, you know whatever. I love

1418
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: for him, and we always you know, we had a

1419
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: you know, we had a you know, I always had

1420
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: a great connection over the years. But then he told me,

1421
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 1: was like, hey, I'm working on the album. It's gonna

1422
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: be basically my my last solo album, you know, you

1423
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: know whatever. You know, you don't really want want to

1424
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: say it like that at the time, but it's kind

1425
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: of like how he was saying, like, you know, I'm

1426
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: doing another solo album is basically gonna be you know,

1427
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: is it? You know you're down to get on it.

1428
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: Of course I'm gonna get on I'm a professional rapper.

1429
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: And its icon legend, somebody I look up to inspire

1430
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 1: me from my very first interaction with a rapper of him,

1431
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: me wanting to be like him, to be a people's champ.

1432
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: So of course I don't get on there. So you know,

1433
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: I went to the studio with him, got to kick

1434
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: you know, chopping up with him, and really you know,

1435
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, I did my verse. It was cool that,

1436
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, I actually did two songs. But you know,

1437
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: I'm kind of quick in the studio, so I did

1438
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: my thing. That's cool. But after that, we just chopping

1439
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 1: it up for hours upon hours, you know, And like

1440
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: I said, you know, he's somebody I've known throughout the years,

1441
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: but are it would be we backstage at the concert,

1442
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: so we still it might be chopping it up for

1443
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: a couple of hours, you know, getting ready to go on.

1444
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: But it's a group satting kind of you know as

1445
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: a party atmosphere. So this's like real intimate want to

1446
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: you know, just me and him, you know, his son,

1447
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: a couple of other people, to engineer, a couple of people.

1448
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: You know, he just in there just chopping it up,

1449
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: talking about all kind of it is. And I got

1450
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 1: to tell him, you know, before I went to the studio,

1451
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: I told my mama, said, Mama, gets on going the studio.

1452
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: Bush Bill, No, man, for real? You member when you

1453
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: met him in the airport. I'm like, hey, that's my man.

1454
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:15,560
Speaker 1: When I'm trying to figure out to get like a

1455
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: real win. Was that you remember? That was? She kind

1456
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: of tell me when it was, that's when we did this,

1457
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 1: and that that's the first time he flew. I kind

1458
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: of you know, so it kind of you know, we

1459
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: remember that kind of thing. So when I I told

1460
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: b I said, Bushell, I'm gonna tell your story. Man,

1461
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: I tell him a story. Shout out to Bushoo, Man,

1462
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: I tell him a story. He say, I said, bush,

1463
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: I met you when I was twelve. He say, all

1464
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 1: the way there, I tell my whole story. Say, oh, yeah,

1465
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 1: that was the Resurrection tour or whatever tour. Yeah, it

1466
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: was a hippy airport in the summer. Yeah I remember that.

1467
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: You said, uh, were you wearing summer clothes? And I'm like,

1468
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: remember that? But he said, yeah, I remember. So I

1469
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: don't know what that was you, but I remember meeting

1470
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: the youth in the airport in the We're in summer clothes,

1471
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: you know. Was that you I'm like, man, you remember that.

1472
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 1: That's crazy? But no, I don't know he really did

1473
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: remember that, or he was just kind of putting on.

1474
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: But still, you know, I definitely, you know, I'm glad

1475
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: I got to share that with him, to let him

1476
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 1: know how much you know, he said, hold on, let's

1477
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: let's all give let's all give him a moment the size,

1478
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 1: what's the piece push with bills? Definitely that most people

1479
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: that most people I see what grills when they smoke

1480
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: or they eat, they take the grills off. You don't.

1481
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: You don't take the grill off when you smoke or eat.

1482
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: I mean when you when you're on the jo I

1483
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: get to cheat. I can cheat, you know what I'm saying.

1484
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: I got the jewry stoy. So so why why don't

1485
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 1: people do that? What is it messing up or something? Well?

1486
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: Think about it. You got you know, your chain right there,

1487
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: and you you got to eat. Let's get you know,

1488
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 1: we're getting designing. You ain't gonna dipping in with design exactly.

1489
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: And you gotta let me get a coffee, dipping in

1490
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 1: the coffee. Let me get a milkshake, dipping in the milkshade.

1491
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: Let me eat a hamburger. Or whatever, let me whatever,

1492
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like you think about you don't

1493
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: you wouldn't do that with that. It's grills, it's your teeth.

1494
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: But it's still precious metal and jewels, so you know,

1495
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: you gotta some of it comes with, especially the smoking.

1496
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: It will tarnish the metal, making, you know, change the

1497
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 1: color a little bit. Well, when you buff it out,

1498
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: it's brand new, back to new. Uh and in different

1499
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: qualities of the gold will get dirty, quicker, same munch

1500
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,799
Speaker 1: of diamonds, you know. So when you gotta hire Caret gold,

1501
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: you can smoke. It's not a big deal. But you know,

1502
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: just it's just properly grill care um Me, I don't

1503
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, you know whatever, I don't really tend to

1504
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 1: take my grill out too much. You know. I'm actually

1505
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: about to get some I'm about to go permanent on

1506
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 1: there and get some get something new. Obviously those the

1507
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 1: ones that don't come out. Yeah. So, um so, is

1508
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: there a difference between regular gold and dental gold, Well,

1509
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: the dental gold, I think when they say that they

1510
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 1: mean like the higher quality of the carrotter gold. So

1511
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: typically there's like ten care Ago, four teen Carego eighteen

1512
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 1: care ago. Now there's twenty two care ago, sometimes four

1513
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: care ago. Bruno Mars made a song about it. So,

1514
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: but when you go to buy jewelry, it's typically tin

1515
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: carrot spoorteen care or eighteen care, eighteen care being a

1516
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 1: higher care of being the best. But also it's boys

1517
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: whipping that gold up. Man. Boys are whipped that gold

1518
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: up with silver some other things. You tested, it'll be

1519
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: six carried goal or whatever, and they'll dip it to

1520
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: look like eighteen caret or dip it. I actually got

1521
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: a song called what they tell will called eighteen care

1522
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: go no deal because boys will get tin cared and

1523
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 1: then dip it to look like eighteen carret or fourteen

1524
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: care ago. And yeah, but yeah, it's uh but I

1525
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: think I think, you know, I don't know. I could

1526
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: be wrong, but I think when with the dental goal,

1527
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: what they mean is a two care or order higher

1528
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: higher care, but which is usually I think eighteen care.

1529
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 1: All the dentists I know to use the eighteen care ship.

1530
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 1: We do the goals for all the dentists and is

1531
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 1: eighteen carre. Uh. That's that's actually how Johnny start, how

1532
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: he started with the grills, was he was already doing

1533
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: drewelry repair, already doing a few custom things like for

1534
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: Drewry stores, not for customers, but for Drewry stores. So

1535
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: then it got to be the dentists would come to

1536
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: a I'm making you know, I need you to make

1537
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: these gold teeth for a customer who was getting them permanent.

1538
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 1: And then Johnny like, damn, I could do that on

1539
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: my own. What they can come to me? Why are

1540
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: they going to you? It can come straight to me,

1541
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: see it? And then basically what it was, what was

1542
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: the was the first order because because obviously you was

1543
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 1: a wrapper, so that this was your side house of

1544
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: the grills, right it was when was the same time,

1545
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 1: you know, and if I first started rapping with the

1546
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 1: Switch House my first mixtape with the Swish I was

1547
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: in nineteen nine and nine before that, I was rapping

1548
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: with comed there doing talent shows or whatever, just trying

1549
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: to make it. But you know, basically what no rap

1550
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 1: career was, you know, we was just you know, it

1551
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: was the first order with you and where you He

1552
01:15:58,320 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I could make some money

1553
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: off of this ship, Like you know what I'm saying,

1554
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: Like I actually, well, this is what I'm doing. I

1555
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 1: was working for Crime where I worked out of y Yeah,

1556
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: I was working for him, and it was at a

1557
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: store where we sold switch house tape. It was like

1558
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: a hood store like you know, uh, you know, like

1559
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: a bodega kind of, but we don't call it that.

1560
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: It's just like just a store, corner store where that

1561
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: we sold switch House mixed taste. We sold hood t

1562
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: shirts that'll just had a name of your hood type

1563
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: ship on their north side or whatever, this type of

1564
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: sayings type of s on there. Then we've been there

1565
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: selling grills, selling gold teeth. But after a while, you know,

1566
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 1: Ship started picking up. It was like, Okay, I gotta,

1567
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: I gotta move out of here. I gotta you know,

1568
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 1: I could get money in other ways, but I would

1569
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 1: really Originally I started out working for Crime doing the promotions.

1570
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: That's the first time where I actually ran a shop,

1571
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: ran a grill shot and then even then it was

1572
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 1: still working for Crime. He paid me a salary and

1573
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 1: I would sell grills and I was a salesman, but

1574
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 1: he did everything. He took everything, and then eventually he

1575
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: was like a look, I'm gonna do something for you man.

1576
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 1: I may introduce you the Johnny Man it's you know,

1577
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 1: and he's like all right. I was like bed ship, yeah, yeah,

1578
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: and he basically gave him. Yeah. But crime had different

1579
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 1: people to crime had somebody in New York that was

1580
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: making on me as somebody and uh, you know, but

1581
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: Johnny didn't majority because it was local in Houston. But

1582
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: he had multiple year he got all kind of stuff

1583
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,879
Speaker 1: going on. But it wasn't It wasn't like a celebrity

1584
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 1: who came to you and like and then he was like,

1585
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: you know what this is, this is something I want

1586
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: to invest my money in. Well, I think it was

1587
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: just no, it was more like just the hustle because

1588
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:36,560
Speaker 1: Little John was the first celebrity I did. But before that,

1589
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 1: it was just I was making money, man. I was

1590
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 1: making a kind of money selling grills, and I would

1591
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 1: The hustle is you pass out flies with your number

1592
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: on it, with the prices on it, and people will

1593
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 1: see it. You go to all the different cities or

1594
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: towns that in the three or four mile RADI three

1595
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: or four hour radius, you know what I'm saying. So

1596
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: I would go to Dallas, Santonio, Austin the same places

1597
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to sell switchhouse tape because keep this in

1598
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: mind too. I was selling Switching House mixtapes. Before I

1599
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: was rapping on them. I was promoting and distributing. I

1600
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: would press up this. I would press up the CDs

1601
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 1: and the tapes, and I also would distribute them and

1602
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 1: go to the stores, fulfill the orders, take them back

1603
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: to watch ron clg Dash. That's what T Ferris was

1604
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: doing too. We came in at the same time doing

1605
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: that before I was wrapping the Switch House. So I

1606
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 1: got to see in Ship the same grill hustle in Houston.

1607
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: I can do this out of town, So I go

1608
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 1: to Dallas all these places, put my number down with

1609
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 1: flyers of the prices. They already were traveling to Houston

1610
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: or places to get grills, go or to whatever whoever.

1611
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: Their local hood didn't but it was it's like it

1612
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: ain't a good selection of people to go to. It's

1613
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: only like one or two or maybe three in Houston

1614
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 1: at that time they were doing permanent grills. They were like,

1615
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: hood didn't like doing that. So it's like, ship, where

1616
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:53,560
Speaker 1: can you go? So you know, doing that it was

1617
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 1: just working. And I would go to Louisiana, same thing. Lafayette,

1618
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 1: like Charles Appulus is on the baton ruge and then

1619
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: even in every direction, you know what I'm saying. So

1620
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 1: it just it got to be a real hustle for me.

1621
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 1: But little John saw it was like he knew who

1622
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: I was as I was at that time. I was

1623
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 1: a d J. I was DJ, and I was an artist,

1624
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: switch house, a freestyle artist. But I kind of a

1625
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, I kind of got more

1626
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 1: recognition as a DJ at that time. At that time,

1627
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 1: DJ Paul, the other artists, I think a lot of

1628
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 1: they more respecting me as a DJ because I wasn't

1629
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 1: hound hounding them for versus and all let me act

1630
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: like I'm friends with you and all that. It was

1631
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: more like I'm a DJ, I play of music. They

1632
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: respected me for that because I really will support people

1633
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: I funk with. And whereas the fans sunk to me

1634
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: as being a rapper, they didn't give a funk about

1635
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 1: me DJ and the fans with me was being a rapper,

1636
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: but the the other artists, they sucked me as being

1637
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 1: a more DJ. So it was a lot of other

1638
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: the artists I sunk with, I sunk with t I

1639
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: real tough, real heavy, you know, even as I was

1640
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 1: rapping with the switch house and you know, you know

1641
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,640
Speaker 1: when twenty Folks came out and you all around then,

1642
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: But it was more as me being a DJ and

1643
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: then as an artist thing came it was like, oh, ship,

1644
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: you rapped. Two ain't know you wrapped. And then it

1645
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 1: also let me just you know, it just it worked

1646
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 1: for me because I saw how people You know, man,

1647
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 1: everybody is a rapper or a DJ or a producer. Everybody,

1648
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: so everybody who's seen any type of success, and there's

1649
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: all types of different levels. You get everybody coming up

1650
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 1: to you, Hey, I want to be where you at?

1651
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 1: How can I be there? Can you? How can you

1652
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: put me on? Put me on? Put me on, put

1653
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 1: me on? So ship this man, I would just see

1654
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 1: how you would get turned off shut out. As I'm

1655
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 1: a rapper, they put me on, put me on, and

1656
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 1: they on want the funk with you? But I'm a DJ.

1657
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: Oh you Hey, I'm ana DJ. I can play of music.

1658
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 1: Then they oh you can play my music, let me

1659
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 1: with you. Ship. It just was like reverse psychology. And

1660
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: then when they when they when they would find out

1661
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: that I wrapped, it would be damn, you ain't even

1662
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 1: tell me you wrap. But it would be like yeah,

1663
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: because I ain't trying to put you out like that

1664
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 1: where you ain't want to suck with me no more,

1665
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: because you know, you see how that goes. It worked

1666
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 1: for me, you know what I'm saying. I just I

1667
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: let that. I let my other side hustles, you know, grow,

1668
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: so they when I had an opportunity for me to

1669
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: be an artist or a rapper, you know, I had

1670
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 1: all kind of money wise monetarily, I had my money,

1671
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: so I didn't rely on record sales. My network was

1672
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: already strong because I was already distributing in other people music,

1673
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: and I was a salesman selling grills and selling music,

1674
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,679
Speaker 1: so I knew what, you know, just sell my own music.

1675
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 1: Being an artists with the kind of took I knew

1676
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,600
Speaker 1: being a salesman who distributed to Switchhouse tapes. Sometimes I

1677
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: can tell which, you know with the fans, they work

1678
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 1: with this artist or that artist, so they like when

1679
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 1: you say this or that and then right right, so yeah,

1680
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 1: I could adjust, like okay, they like when I do that.

1681
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: Partners on the whole Jury Store, just the grill part,

1682
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 1: all of it, all of it your jury store. We're

1683
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 1: actually we were branching out. We're about to branch off.

1684
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: We still got the Sharpstown store of course, got the

1685
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: new and uh C too for rich in Houston, the

1686
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 1: big one, the two story. He Johnny got his own.

1687
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: He Johnny went from doing jury repair in his garage

1688
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 1: to selling grills in the mall to having his own mall. Man.

1689
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 1: So you know, man, you know it's it's definitely how

1690
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: does the want to but somebody wanted to start getting

1691
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: the jury business? How do you how do you even begint?

1692
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: This is why I love Johnny bro He changed my

1693
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 1: life as beat me being a hustler. I can sell anything,

1694
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 1: I can hustle anything. So when you got that type

1695
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,759
Speaker 1: of skill, you know, how can you do that without

1696
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,560
Speaker 1: going to jail? How can you do that it with integrity,

1697
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 1: to respect when you're not selling something this whack of

1698
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 1: corny or how can you do that and make a

1699
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 1: career out of me? How can you do that? You know?

1700
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 1: Just all that. So for me it was a whole

1701
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: lot of you know, I love grills, I want grills,

1702
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 1: so I want to sell them. Then I can make

1703
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 1: a lot of money off of this because a lot

1704
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: of people at the time who was selling grills were

1705
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: charging too much money. Or we're doing bad business where

1706
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 1: they take your money and your grill mold, but you

1707
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't get your grill and you got a hound them

1708
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 1: for their grill, you know. So I just saw myself

1709
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 1: as men, if I can do a good business, I'm

1710
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: gonna win, all right. And Johnny gave me that opportunity.

1711
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: That that's what Johnny started off as he would give wholesale.

1712
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 1: Did you did you? Did you fund him first? How

1713
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 1: did he like? How did like like you know what

1714
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, no, no, he's done it. It was

1715
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: all Johnny. Okay. So me, I would when I'm working

1716
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: for crime, doing grills, doing selling grill modes whatever, doing

1717
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: anything I'm doing crime, I would be like the driver

1718
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 1: drop off the mode. So I'm at Johnny's dropping off

1719
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 1: the most picking up orders things like that. I'd be

1720
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 1: in there. It was a small shop, and every time

1721
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 1: I ever went in there, he would always be getting

1722
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 1: into somebody. He got this thick Vetnamese accent and then't

1723
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: be somebody who is from the hood of any race.

1724
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 1: There was from some type of hood so they had

1725
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 1: a hood accent, or there was from out of state.

1726
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 1: So he didn't know what the fun they were saying

1727
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: that what he was saying, and it would just be

1728
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: a translation. No, no, he's saying, it's this, No, no, Johnny,

1729
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 1: he wants this, no this, And then you know, after that,

1730
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: eventually it got to be a while I'm in there

1731
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: dropping off grill most ship people say you like outside,

1732
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: I didn't know you. I'm a rapper too, and he's like,

1733
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 1: you're a rapper and you sell grills whatever, and I'm like, yeah, well,

1734
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 1: you know what whatever, And then it got to be

1735
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 1: a ship. We can do this together, and we're way

1736
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 1: stronger together. And Johnny always from the jump Johnny got

1737
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 1: a part of my music too, just like I got

1738
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: a part of the Jews. Johnny told me from the

1739
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: jump Man, Hey, look the same way you love JR.

1740
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 1: That's how I love music. I can't make no music.

1741
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 1: I don't know how to make music, but I want

1742
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 1: to be a part somehow, whether it's doing concerts, you know,

1743
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: just investing something. I want to be I want to

1744
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 1: be a part. So that's why we always had kind

1745
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 1: of messed the way we have the juror is this

1746
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: thing I do the marketing, I do things like that

1747
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: in terms of the marketing and outreach. Uh. Big part

1748
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: of what I do. Yeah, A big part of what

1749
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,759
Speaker 1: I do is customer service. When people and there's problems.

1750
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,759
Speaker 1: Of course, that's when people don't really call me unless

1751
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 1: they got a problem and they the problem because we're

1752
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: gonna spoop it over. That's all I think, too, is it?

1753
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 1: You know, customer services number one to us. But the

1754
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: business run itself. He running so I'm able to do

1755
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: my music and collect the check at the same time,

1756
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 1: cross promote and everything I do. But it just it

1757
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 1: just was like, why why not we got a team up,

1758
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: Let's do this together. And me, I'm a very loyal person,

1759
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,560
Speaker 1: so I'm not the type to let me do this

1760
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 1: on my own without you to x you out so

1761
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 1: that I can make a little bit more money. I'm

1762
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 1: more of a let's build this up together. You got kids,

1763
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 1: I got kids, will pass this on to our kids together.

1764
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: You know I'm more of a builder than I am

1765
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 1: over let me go do it on my own. No man, stop,

1766
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: even you got your girls, little girls like you get

1767
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 1: those girls, Charlie Hey. But this is why, this is

1768
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 1: why I love Journey because now but it might be

1769
01:25:56,240 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 1: you're looking good, but this is why I love Johnny

1770
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: because the same opportunity he gave me to go hustle

1771
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 1: and make a living and make money off of this man.

1772
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: He get that to We got thousands of wholesale clients

1773
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 1: around the world, so that you know, instead of him

1774
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: franchising off and having a Johnny Danger Company in every city,

1775
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: there's like ten Johnny Dann company people who are getting

1776
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: their wholesale from us, but they're their own business. So yeah,

1777
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate that he empowered you to be your own hustle,

1778
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,840
Speaker 1: to to build your own business for your kids. You

1779
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that That's why I love Johnny

1780
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 1: because he get an opportunity. I've seen him time and

1781
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: time and time again, get that opportunity to what's the

1782
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 1: first thing approachon to do if they want to get

1783
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 1: into the well? I mean, because you had I would

1784
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: say this, No matter what, it's very easy to get

1785
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 1: tempted to run off of people money or charge them

1786
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: more and get them. Uh, they paid ten thousand, but

1787
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: let me act like they paid nine eight because I

1788
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 1: need some new rooms or something, you know. So I

1789
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 1: think good business and customer service is key a one

1790
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 1: key to long term business. Now, if you want to

1791
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: go out and hit licks come up real quick. That's

1792
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: a completely different business structure. You know. My business advice

1793
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,640
Speaker 1: I can give you is for long term careers or

1794
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: something you can pass on to your kids and make

1795
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 1: millions of dollars off. Yeah, if you want to make

1796
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: a couple of thousand real quick and go here licks

1797
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 1: and burn people on their orders. But you want to

1798
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 1: make some millions, yeah, you can't do that type of ship.

1799
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 1: But that's what man. You know we're talking though. If

1800
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: you want to sell jury, the best advice I would

1801
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: get to you if you like, man, go talk to Johnny.

1802
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 1: We gotta. We have a whole department. This a wholesale department.

1803
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: This is just as big as the gold casting or

1804
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 1: diamond setting, or shipping or any other department we have those.

1805
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 1: That department is huge, man, And that's also why we're

1806
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,640
Speaker 1: able to sell four hundred grills a day. You know,

1807
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:56,640
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy to be to be able to do

1808
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,560
Speaker 1: this much. But it's not because they you know, we

1809
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 1: got you. You know, we got in a movie called

1810
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:06,640
Speaker 1: um you hope they served Ben Hell? Oh yeah, my

1811
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: boy Tuckle Max. So how the hell are you getting

1812
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 1: a movie like that man. Uh it's a yeah, man,

1813
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 1: it's a you know, I'm not that good at active,

1814
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 1: but I think that might be where it started. They

1815
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: put me in the in the movies that they not

1816
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 1: the not the mainstream successes, but that was they didn't

1817
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 1: make some money off of that. It's based off a book.

1818
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 1: My boy. It's a real person named Tuckle Max. He

1819
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 1: got a book. It was on the New York Times

1820
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: best seller for like teen years something crazy, like I

1821
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 1: think he might have broke a record or something. He was.

1822
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 1: But the book is like a story he wrote which

1823
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 1: is basically like adventures of getting sucked up and and

1824
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: fucking girls and just reckly ship three girls in one

1825
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 1: night and I ain't wear I got so drunk and

1826
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 1: I threw a ball over the floor here and there.

1827
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 1: Oh ay, one time I had to ship in. This

1828
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: girl gave me head while I was shooting, like it's

1829
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: like this, yeah, but it's all true stories and uh,

1830
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 1: you know of him and I had asked me. I

1831
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 1: was like, hey, bro, these all can't be your stories.

1832
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 1: They gotta be like you and like four or your homeboys,

1833
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 1: and you all put them together with he like, well,

1834
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 1: it's just me. But anyway, I made him through some

1835
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 1: of the else When the first time I went to

1836
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 1: iraq Um with the U s O, I went with

1837
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: my boy Jamie Kennedy and Stu Stone and Jamie Kennedy,

1838
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: you know, the actor comedian. He had a book out

1839
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 1: and uh, Tucker Max, Uh, he's the one who wrote it.

1840
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: He like CO wrote it, you know what I'm saying.

1841
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 1: So anyway, I was he was talking to him and

1842
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, Ship, hey, my boy, Tucker Max, say

1843
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 1: what's up? Man? You know he could helped CO wrote

1844
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:35,719
Speaker 1: my book. And I'm like, oh, Ship, tell him myself.

1845
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 1: I'm trying to write a book too. Anyway, he wrote

1846
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of he co he helped Tiffany Hadds right

1847
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 1: with her book. You know, I don't you know, I

1848
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't in on their writing problem how they do it,

1849
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 1: but a lot of times when they write books like that,

1850
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 1: you like do an interview and then it to be

1851
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 1: kind of transcribed kind of or whatever. I don't know,

1852
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,679
Speaker 1: but whatever. Anyway, but if you look on the book

1853
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 1: The Last Black Unicorns, like Tivy hadas Tucker Max, I'm like, oh, Ship,

1854
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: my boy, I've seen I've seen that. I was wired

1855
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 1: up when I've seen that. But yeah, he that's how

1856
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 1: I made him. And I'm like, damn. He's like, yeah,

1857
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 1: I wrote a book is on the New York Time

1858
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,560
Speaker 1: best seller but you know he like co wrote like

1859
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 1: a bunch of other books. So we got to be cool.

1860
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 1: And he's like, hey, they're gonna and I talk. I

1861
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 1: was like, hey, bro, if they I can't act for ship.

1862
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 1: I ain't been him with like three or four movies,

1863
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 1: but say, man, if you make the because he said

1864
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:18,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna make a movie out of the book, A

1865
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 1: bro put me in the movie. Man, I try to

1866
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 1: get in that movie just because I'm trying to get

1867
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:24,799
Speaker 1: a movie credit. So that's how that's how it basically happened.

1868
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 1: He put me in the movie. He basically wrote me

1869
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: in the movie, which was like a parody of myself,

1870
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 1: kind of like my you know, my name in the

1871
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 1: movie was Grillionaire. So but yeah, shout to my boy.

1872
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 1: What's up now? Now you got a real you got

1873
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 1: a real you married a real system. You ain't married

1874
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 1: like a faith black girl, real real black you have?

1875
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 1: What has been like like that? Because what does that

1876
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,640
Speaker 1: life have been? Because obviously we know you're white and

1877
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 1: you married a black girl? Like, has that been pluses

1878
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: for you? Have that? Have people critiqued you for it? Like?

1879
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 1: You know, different people have different perspectives. You know, it's

1880
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 1: she's my dream woman. Anything now but anything I can

1881
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 1: ask for or could want and a partners, you know,

1882
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 1: see that for me, So I don't want nothing else.

1883
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: I would now. I never you know, I never been

1884
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 1: married and nobody else or nothing else. So I like that.

1885
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 1: So I never even you know, been this is she

1886
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 1: really the first serious, serious relationship that I had ever

1887
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 1: been in a long long term like that. Even we

1888
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 1: got married on our two year anniversaries. So should I

1889
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: don't know for me, you know, we get it different ways.

1890
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:40,560
Speaker 1: Of course. If you look at the comments on the

1891
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:42,759
Speaker 1: post or something, you'll see all kind of ships sometimes.

1892
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, if you're racist, then you're

1893
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 1: gonna find some racist out of it or whatever. You know,

1894
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 1: there's there's definitely people on both sides who got a

1895
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:53,719
Speaker 1: problem with it, you know what I'm saying or whatever,

1896
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 1: But hey, man, I wish them the best. I hope

1897
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 1: they'd be happy. You know, I'm I'm happy, I'm I'm

1898
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm proud to be married to. It is is what

1899
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 1: I wanted as being and my parents with divorce, and

1900
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, this is what I wanted, Man, I want

1901
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 1: to be married ship. I'm not trying to be like

1902
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 1: rapper married where I'm married but I'm working on the side,

1903
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 1: or or just just or just just entertainer married where

1904
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 1: you don't tell nobody married, you know, just you know, hey,

1905
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm because it even you know, as a child growing up.

1906
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 1: If I want to think about what the rappers, you know,

1907
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 1: from being whatever age I was when I first heard

1908
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 1: hip hop? What what? What a you know? Who's married?

1909
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 1: Who talks about being married, who's proud to be married?

1910
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 1: Or any of that? You don't hear none of that.

1911
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: The only thing you see is scandal side bitches, baby

1912
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 1: Mama's Dog and girls out love songs broken. You know, Hey,

1913
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 1: that's difference the love spectrum of the interactive spect you

1914
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 1: know whatever. It's big, but you don't hear too much

1915
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 1: of y'all married and you know ship like that or

1916
01:32:57,560 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 1: you know whatever, or just see people talking about it

1917
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 1: or all you'd be like, they mightn't even know he's

1918
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 1: married to. You find out somebody who got divorced, you know,

1919
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 1: got divorce. I don't even know they're married, Ship, but

1920
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:09,680
Speaker 1: you know, so for me, it was like who do

1921
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 1: I look to as a role model to be you know,

1922
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 1: to be married and entertainment or be a rapper that's

1923
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 1: married or inter racial. I never really looked at any

1924
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,640
Speaker 1: of it like any of that. But who do I

1925
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 1: look to for just to be a marriage role model?

1926
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 1: Especially in rap music? You know what I'm saying. Like Ship,

1927
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:30,679
Speaker 1: it wasn't a lot at the time. Now he's gotten

1928
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: to be more, you know what I'm saying, So I

1929
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 1: you know, it's a brotherhood all the other married rappers,

1930
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and should be it's cool,

1931
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 1: you know' parenting to now people more proud to talk

1932
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:42,680
Speaker 1: about being parents for sure. Man, It's something that it

1933
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 1: goes a long way in us a lot of us,

1934
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 1: you know, like growing up having bad experiences, or coming

1935
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 1: from a broken home, or not having a father, having

1936
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 1: a father addicted the drugs, like you know, all of

1937
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:55,640
Speaker 1: the things. Was like, Okay, who do I look to,

1938
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: you know, as a role model and rap as well?

1939
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 1: Like Ship? You know, it's something that to be proud

1940
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 1: of being a father and all of these things to

1941
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 1: be married, it's something to be proud of. To be

1942
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 1: a father, something to be proud of. So it's I

1943
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 1: try to do, you know. It's what I wanted. It's

1944
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 1: my dream. I wanted to be married, had kids and

1945
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 1: be happy with my dream like a motherfucker. Now you

1946
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 1: went on tour with tchech mind Yeah, my boy like

1947
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: and l Bill as well. Yeah, yeah, how was that

1948
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:31,560
Speaker 1: it was? We actually toured twice once. We toured in

1949
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 1: like two thousand and three, but it was just like,

1950
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,639
Speaker 1: I think four or five shows. It wasn't a whole

1951
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:41,640
Speaker 1: lot fourth probably the labels. Yeah, yeah, well maybe like

1952
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 1: at the beginning to being even then it was a

1953
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 1: weird experience showing up to the first show. It was

1954
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 1: I think it was in job. I don't know if

1955
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 1: it was the first one of the first shows. Yeah, yeah,

1956
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 1: he was. I remember we did a show in Joplin, Missouri,

1957
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:58,920
Speaker 1: and it was like we should be pull up and

1958
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 1: there's people waiting there, but they got on black trench

1959
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 1: coats as hot as they're gonna black trench coats. Yeah,

1960
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 1: they got their face painted, and we like, man, what's

1961
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 1: going on? It sat We wasn't something we wasn't used

1962
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 1: to when we go into Yeah we like technicians. Yeah,

1963
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 1: so it was something he wasn't We didn't know what

1964
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 1: to expect, and it was it was a dope interaction

1965
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 1: to see the combination of his fans and my fans,

1966
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, because you can see some people were there

1967
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 1: for me, some people there for him, some of there

1968
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 1: for both. But then for sure, it was a dope

1969
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 1: experience that first time we did the first shows and

1970
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 1: that was my first interaction with juggalos like that, and

1971
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 1: it was dope, just saying, you know, I thought that

1972
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 1: was so dope to have fans that, especially in hip

1973
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:47,560
Speaker 1: hop broke because being a fan, it's not cool. You

1974
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 1: can't be no fan you're Dick Rider. They ain't no

1975
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 1: fan as you're Dick Rider. Yes, I haven't been to

1976
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 1: the crazy, but it was it was It's dope to

1977
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 1: me to see people that are proud to be a

1978
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 1: fan of you and they and if you don't like it,

1979
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 1: they're ready to fight you. That's like what That's how

1980
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 1: Zero is to me. His fan base. Zero has my

1981
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 1: boy Zero from Houston. He got a fan base where

1982
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 1: if his fans, if you talk bad about Zero, you say, man,

1983
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna fight you right there on the spot when

1984
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:23,719
Speaker 1: you're tripping. So you know this. They don't paint their faces,

1985
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 1: but they yeah, and so you know, I was, you know,

1986
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 1: happy to see that for show when our experience that,

1987
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 1: and that was the first time. In the second time

1988
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 1: we went on tour, it was like a sixty city show,

1989
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 1: sixty day sisty city tour. It was crazy like sisty

1990
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:45,560
Speaker 1: shows back back to that. Yeah, but it taught me

1991
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 1: a grind like that, Like damn okay, I see the

1992
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 1: long time run every estate. He's killing man. He pulled

1993
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 1: up in the may back when we went to when

1994
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 1: we went to Kansas City, and we didn't always say

1995
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: I want to bring you bout my compounds studio. You

1996
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 1: pull up in the may back, you know what I'm saying.

1997
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 1: They pull up to the multi acre compound and we

1998
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 1: get buzzed in by security and you see the back

1999
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 1: warehouse where they got there hundred or different yeah, different

2000
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 1: sets from show sets like they you know, you go

2001
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:21,640
Speaker 1: to the other side where you see the warehouse with

2002
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 1: all of their merch over the years, everything from socks

2003
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 1: to Jersey's T shirts. It's like then then you see

2004
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:28,720
Speaker 1: the other side where they got the studio, they got

2005
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,759
Speaker 1: the paperwork everything. It's like, damn, that's the real independent.

2006
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 1: That's the dream right there, the way they got everything.

2007
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 1: It's just it's very let's make some he he be

2008
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 1: wrapping his ass off to be boy you collaborative Silicone

2009
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 1: Valley based company jump Shot Media to create a battle

2010
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 1: Wrap game. Battle Wrap Is that still lit? I don't

2011
01:37:57,920 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 1: know if it's going, if it's still active right now.

2012
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 1: I think gets another one. I've seen another one that

2013
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 1: Bernard did. Um, but yeah, it was kind of dope.

2014
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:06,719
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, this is the early stages

2015
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 1: of interactive apps type, you know, interactive type of things

2016
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 1: like that. But it's just dope to be a part

2017
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 1: of that. You know, growing up in Houston, I wasn't

2018
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:16,600
Speaker 1: a part of the battle rap scenes. So it was

2019
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 1: like it was something that I was Eventually there's gonna

2020
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:27,639
Speaker 1: be like FaceTime Texas. And you know, some of it though,

2021
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 1: is the doing it, because the in the battle rap,

2022
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 1: you know, it's a performance. Yeah, that face to face

2023
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 1: disrespect in your face in front of all your people,

2024
01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 1: that's you know some of that is that because if

2025
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 1: you if I'm just in my room with all my homies.

2026
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 1: You know you're holding your nuts a lot. Yeah, I'm

2027
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 1: really holding you face to face. It's like you might

2028
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,600
Speaker 1: steal off only right now. So you know everybody, you

2029
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 1: gotta be ready for all of that, these people with anybody,

2030
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 1: you know. But that'd be what that battle rap is

2031
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,679
Speaker 1: all about. But that also is why I never really

2032
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 1: personally got into that lane, because man, somebody talk about

2033
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 1: me like that. Man, I'm gonna be ready to fight.

2034
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying of it. Of watching it and you shout

2035
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 1: out to my boy to Jack arrest in piece to jacko. Man,

2036
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 1: he really got me on too watching Have you seen

2037
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 1: this battle buon up battles on YouTube? Have you've seen

2038
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: this battle You've seen this bat all he went in. Yeah, Yeah,

2039
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 1: we were that's my that's my boy. We actually did,

2040
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 1: uh we man, big rest in peace man, we uh

2041
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 1: we we actually did. We went on tour to Sweden.

2042
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 1: We did a festival over there and it was a

2043
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 1: big it was a battle rap going on, like a

2044
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:38,879
Speaker 1: battle rap concert going on. It was like fifteen countries

2045
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 1: here and keep be all over the world. I gotta come,

2046
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 1: I gotta sw Yeah. But that was my first time

2047
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:57,679
Speaker 1: being at a battle rap live in person and seeing

2048
01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 1: all of it, meeting these artists, seeing how they see

2049
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 1: the nigas that try to jump asap Rocky did you,

2050
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 1: I don't know it. It was a few years ago

2051
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 1: when we was there. I thought about that that when

2052
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 1: I've seen it, I'm like, damn, I wanted it. Was

2053
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 1: they there on it, but they looked like they was

2054
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 1: a little younger niggas yesterday. The two niggas, two niggas. Yeah,

2055
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:20,679
Speaker 1: I see them today back as the bars Kiden. I said,

2056
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 1: niggas trying to jump that rocket. That in my mind. Yeah,

2057
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:27,680
Speaker 1: but um, you're listening to Paul Wall. We started this

2058
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 1: to pick up our legends and tell people to their

2059
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 1: face that you know your grace and so many people

2060
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 1: are and our culture that they we don't salute our culture.

2061
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 1: And this is what we want to change. You want

2062
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 1: to change the narrative of that. We started drink Champs

2063
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:43,599
Speaker 1: in order for us to give people their flowers. Why

2064
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 1: they can smell them. They thought so when they could

2065
01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: tell them they drinks where they can drink them, you

2066
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And they smoked while they could

2067
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 1: smoke up, you know what I'm saying. And we want

2068
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 1: to tell you, man, you know you've been out here.

2069
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 1: You know, represent the hip hop in the right way,

2070
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:56,680
Speaker 1: playing the game in the right way. And we want

2071
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 1: to tell you we appreciate you. We want to tell

2072
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:00,639
Speaker 1: you salute. We want to tell you, man, keep doing

2073
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 1: your thing. I want to tell you I'm ordering a

2074
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 1: new grill, my son and grill and I'm all all

2075
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:08,720
Speaker 1: three of my sons are grill and um. But man,

2076
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,360
Speaker 1: we want to tell you, thank you, Man, I appreciate you. Man.

2077
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 1: It's just drink Champs and man, give your flowers right now.

2078
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 1: Hey man, anybody get anybody called Tony Manning and get

2079
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 1: a grill with a hashtag on whatever, telling drink Chance,

2080
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 1: giving that you drink Chance discount. Man will give you

2081
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 1: attempts in off top. We'll take a picture in the

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Speaker 1: drop