1 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live, presented by Calllida Health. All right, 2 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: here we are Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on 3 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live. 4 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: Glad to have you with us. 5 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Practice Continuing this morning, we'll get into some details of 6 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: that shortly but cool thing today we got. We got 7 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: a in person visit from some of our listeners and 8 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: viewers coming all the way in from Rochester area where 9 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: they listened to us out there and Brian and Kayla 10 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: in here kind of checking out the goings on and 11 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: how we kind of put this thing together with our 12 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: esteemed crew on the other side of the door, as 13 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: well as what goes on in here in the studios. 14 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: So good to have him peek behind the curtain. 15 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: Yes, all the little secrets that we have here, we 16 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: told them they're sworn to secrecy, so we do appreciate 17 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: their listenership. Good to have them, good to meet them, 18 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: Glad to spend a little time with them here today 19 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: and earlier today, as I mentioned, another practice and it 20 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: was the first practice Steve for the last two members 21 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: to round out the Bill's practice squad, as it is 22 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: now at a full sixteen as of yesterday, afternoon, he 23 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: was at fourteen, but Brandon Bean, the GM who addressed 24 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: the media yesterday, informed everyone that they would be filling 25 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: out those last two spots with a veteran linebacker. That's 26 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: Christian Kirksey. We're in jersey number fifty five. He was 27 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: out there at practice today getting his feet wet in. 28 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: This is him and then the quarterback Shane Bouchelle, who 29 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: will wear jersey number six. He has been with the 30 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs the last couple of seasons, so he 31 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: comes over from there and he too out on the 32 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: practice field today, and I thought it was interesting. Steve 33 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: some of the comments from Brandon Bean, and we'll hear 34 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: some of them a little bit later on in the 35 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: show from his press conference yesterday. But I thought it 36 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: was interesting. I knew already he's pretty tight with Micah 37 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: Hyde on this roster. They're really close friends. They played 38 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: together for three seasons at Iowa and College, so he's 39 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: got that relationship walking in the door. But I had 40 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: forgotten that defensive assistant Al Holcombe was his linebackers coach 41 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: in Cleveland, where they ran a system that was pretty 42 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: similar to the one Sean McDermott ran in Carolina, you 43 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: would think, even though that was a few years ago, 44 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: that picking that back up might happen a little bit quicker, 45 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: just with some recall from a few years. 46 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and with the two weeks to run up to 47 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: the first game. Uh, certainly every team in the league 48 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: goes to training camp exactly or approximately two weeks before 49 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: their first preseason game. So you got guys playing, and 50 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: so the base there's no question you'll have more than 51 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: just the basics under his belt by the time that 52 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: first game hits. Now, whether that's kind of he's whether 53 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: he plays or not, I yeah. 54 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: He's on the practice squad. 55 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: He's not on the practice squad, he's it's it's finger 56 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: quotes possible. 57 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: I think he's an insurance policy of the way Klein was. 58 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, when they're coming into the season now at this point, 59 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: finally with with Bernard and Dodson there and they're all healthy, 60 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: there's no hurry to get him on the field. 61 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 62 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: And certainly you don't need to get him on the 63 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: field just to get him on the field, because I 64 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: don't think they've been dissatisfied with the way those guys 65 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: have played. So you're exactly right. You termed it perfectly. 66 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: He's an insurance policy. He's a veteran guy who's got 67 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: a lot of starts, a lot of games. 68 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: And some people on the outside might say, well, if 69 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: you like those guys so much, why you're bringing a 70 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: guy in like him. Well, because as much as they 71 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: like the players that they have on the active roster 72 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: right now, they don't know for sure how it's gonna 73 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: look when you get to regular season football. I'm sure 74 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: they have ideas. I'm sure they have. I mean, Brandon 75 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: Bean said yesterday, we have a lot of confidence in 76 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: these guys, but there's no way to predict, with all 77 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: the variables that exist in football, how it's going to 78 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: play out. So what do you do. You insulate yourself 79 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: so you have an answer in case it doesn't work. 80 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: And for me, that's what Christian Kirksey is. 81 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're gonna he's been there, done that. 82 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: They wouldn't bring They wouldn't not bring somebody in any way. 83 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: You always have to have contingency plans. 84 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: Kirksey is a better athlete than say, got like Aj Klein. Yeah, 85 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: they said, well we can bring Aj, which who we want? 86 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: Who's more intriguing you think, well, Christian Kirksky is he's 87 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: a little younger, and he's a better athlete, and we're 88 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: not gonna need him at least, you know, till something 89 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: forces us to use him. Let's get him ready. I 90 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: think he's a better If it wasn't Kirksey, it would 91 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: be somebody else. And so, and that doesn't mean that 92 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 2: they're dissatisfied with the guys they got, but that they're 93 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: going to have a backup for every position on the 94 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: practice squad or just about some of the key positions. Yeah. So, yeah, 95 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure they were going to bring in the linebacker 96 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: of some way, shape or form anyway. And the fact 97 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: that is Christian Kirksey is I think bonus because of 98 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: his veteran leadership and his resume. 99 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 100 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: Speaking of the practice squad, out of the sixteen players, 101 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: four were wide receivers. I can't remember since we've gone 102 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: to the sixteen member practice squad that there were as 103 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: many as four receivers on the practice squad at any 104 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: one time. I think there have been three, but four 105 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: seems like a larger number than we've seen in the past. 106 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: What do you make of the fact that there are 107 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: four receivers on the practice squad, Marcel Aman, Tyrell Shavers, 108 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: Andy Isabella, Brian Thompson. 109 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: I think that I think it's a signal to where 110 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: the league is and when they want guys that they 111 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: can plug in. Listen. I think in this day and 112 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: age in the NFL, if you got like a Josh 113 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 2: Allen or one of these guys, Pat and Justin, Herbert, 114 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: Joe Whatever, Trevor Lawrence, Aaron Rodgers, those guys can get 115 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: you out of a lot of holes, but they got 116 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 2: to have weapons. 117 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: To do it. 118 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: I think you've got to have your quiver full if 119 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 2: something happens to your wide receiver room. You need guys 120 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: in the pipeline that come in and run your offense, 121 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: because you know you can have a guy go out 122 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 2: and play corner and just say hey, stick with that 123 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: guy on as a wide receiver or tight end or 124 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: a skill position player on offense. Say listen, you got 125 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: to run this route's when this is called. You got 126 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 2: to learn the words, You got to learn all this stuff. 127 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: And I think it's a nod not only to the 128 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 2: guys they had in camp and they like, but it's 129 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: also a nod that listen, this is we're still in 130 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: an arms race, in my opinion, and. 131 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: Not only that, I think on a secondary level, you 132 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: have four guys on this practice squad that know this system, right, 133 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: and this is it's been said many times already. This 134 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: is a voluminous playbook. There's a lot to know. The 135 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: offensive staff demands that the receivers know every position, X, 136 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: Y Z whatever. They got to nowhere to line up 137 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: at all times, knowing they could line up in any 138 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: one of those spots. That's hard for a guy to 139 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: get dropped in out of the sky and be able 140 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: to help your team and execute. So I almost think 141 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: it was predetermined that no matter whether they had one, two, four, 142 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: seven receivers on the practice squad, they all had to 143 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: be guys that had some measure of familiarity with this 144 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: offensive system coming in the door. 145 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: Right, You're right, because you can't. There's no time to 146 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: get guys up to speed on a playbook. A playbook 147 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: that's your quarterback's been in for like five years. He's 148 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: yourquarterback because immersed in and he knows this offense like everything. 149 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 2: And when he goes out there and wants to use something, 150 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: he can't do it because this guy just got here Wednesday. 151 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 2: That's a problem. It's a big problem, and you just 152 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: can't put this team into that position. You need guys 153 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: who know the words to the offense so at least 154 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: you can function because with in this you gotta still 155 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: you've gotta score points in this league. There's just no 156 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: other way around it. You gotta score points. It's rare 157 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: that teams roll out a jet defense, you know, or 158 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: even a Bill's defense or a forty nine or defense. 159 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: You know, there's three of them, and that's about the 160 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: only ones you can think of. Everybody else, you know, 161 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: it's a thirty two point gay, you gotta score thirty two. 162 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: I think we did a pretty good job Steve yesterday 163 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: and kind of nailing down who we thought would be 164 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: on the practice squad based on some of the players 165 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: that were on the offseason roster. I think we nailed 166 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: down Joel Wilson at the tight end position, Johnson at 167 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: the running back position. We had Isabella, you liked Shavers 168 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: at the receiver spots. Cameron Klein was a guy we 169 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: mentioned yesterday for defensive end and he's on the practice squad. 170 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: We mentioned Ilianku and Kendall Vickers at defensive tackle. Kerksey 171 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: obviously comes in, and then you mentioned Kyron Brown and 172 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: JaMarcus Ingram at corner. So yeah, it's it's a pretty 173 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: good looking practice squad. I will say, you know, I 174 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: know it's unfortunate that, you know, the two draft choices 175 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: get signed to Houston's active roster in Nick Broker and 176 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: Alex Austin, the two seventh round picks, they're now Houston Texans. 177 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: It's funny. I saw this discussion online yesterday where some 178 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: people were proposing the idea that if you have a 179 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: draft choice in the seventh round and they're not going 180 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: to make your active roster, they should automatically go to 181 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: do your practice squad and they're protected like another team 182 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: can't sign them because they don't make your fifty three, 183 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: because it's almost like two seventh round picks wasted. Do 184 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 185 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. 186 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: I think the reason the only reason it won't happen 187 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: is because the NFLPA is going to say, we're not 188 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: gonna stand in the way of a guy that can't 189 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: make your roster, but he's capable of making an active 190 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: roster somewhere else. We're gonna force him to take a 191 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: practice squad salary when he could be making an active 192 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: roster salary. That's why I don't think it would ever work. 193 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: It's unfortunate, but it and it's happened to the Bills 194 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: more than once. If anything, it speaks to the astute 195 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: level of drafting that Brandon Bean in his personnel department 196 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: execute here in the seventh round. Almost every year you 197 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: run down the list Rashaan Wild, Goose, Jack Anderson. I mean, 198 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: they've lost guys before. 199 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: You get down here. And yesterday in the day before 200 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 2: when these cuts were starting to come out and people 201 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: were starting and Brandon Bean was taking a little heat 202 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: on social media about like why you getting all these 203 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 2: guys who are not making the team? You stink you're traded. 204 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: You traded. Boogie bash them your second round. You know, 205 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: all this stuff's going around. Look at the other gms. Yeah, 206 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: I mean that's the way it is, man, that you 207 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: can't you don't hit on these guys. They come in 208 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: and they just don't work. Some of them do and 209 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: they're okay, and then sometimes you know, like Brandon always goes, 210 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: he goes back to this day he is banging his 211 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: head against the wall about why at teller. 212 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that one, he said, because. 213 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: You don't know so and all these teams, you know, 214 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: these GM men, it's hard to do because it's right, 215 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: you're picking race horses with heart and souls, right, hearts 216 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: and souls, and these guys are different. 217 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: They pick a corner and Alex Austin, who I thought 218 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: showed pretty well for a rookie in a deep cornerback 219 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: room here in Buffalo, showed some promise in the preseason 220 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: and unfortunately put out preseason tape that convinced another team, 221 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: that Houston Texas, to put them on their active roster. Yeah, 222 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, but I think I think it's a tip 223 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: of the hat to Brandon being in his pison L department. 224 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: You drafted pretty good guys in the seventh round. 225 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: People who really watch this team and have been in 226 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: at neck deep like you and I have for a 227 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: long time through the drought. You remember that this team 228 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: would snap guys up at the cut, that at the 229 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: final cut, and they go right onto the active roster. 230 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: And we were like, remember, we were like, oh, well 231 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 2: we finally got a guy. 232 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: Glad we got that guy. 233 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: You're right, Yeah, it's crazy, but that's where you live. 234 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes when you get into these cycles of how good 235 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: your franchise is and how good they're not, you say, wow, 236 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: maybe there'll be somebody you know available, And then when 237 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: you do get good and we heard this question today, 238 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 2: you're put any waiver claims we're picking twenty eighth. Yeah, 239 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 2: we're not gonna we can put a Yeah, we'll put 240 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: twenty five waiver claims in. We ain't getting any of them. 241 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, not with twenty seven teams, And what are you doing? 242 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: That's that's the crusher, because you know, back when you 243 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: were in the drought, you got pick of the litter. 244 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you waiver claim number four. 245 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: Right or five exactly? You were gonna get somebody. So 246 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: that's that's just the way where they're at now. And 247 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: for all the angst that we put in over which 248 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 2: guys we lost and you know, draft picks that didn't 249 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: work out, and this listen there, this team is rolling. Yep, 250 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: So get on. 251 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: So, as we mentioned, Brandon being addressed the media late 252 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: yesterday after the trade of Boogie Basham was announced along 253 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: with the practice squad formation, et cetera. So obviously much 254 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: has been made by fans about the Boogie Basham trade. 255 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: And it was Boogie Basham and a seventh round pick 256 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five to the Giants in exchange for 257 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: a sixth round pick back in twenty twenty five. And 258 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: some fans were up in arms over that you didn't 259 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: get anything for him, this, that and the other. Why 260 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: did you trade him? It's a failed draft pick. I 261 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: thought Brandon Bean had a very good answer to why 262 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: the trade was going to be made. So let's listen 263 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: to Brandon being addressed the components behind the Boogie Basham 264 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: trade to the Giant. 265 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 5: You know, we're always looking at your trist you know, 266 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 5: we tried to make the roster as competitive. 267 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 4: As we could. 268 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 5: And what I said a minute ago is that's one 269 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 5: of the discussions that was very tough, you know, especially 270 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 5: a guy that is still young, two years left on 271 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 5: his deal. 272 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 4: But we just, you know, we tried to go. 273 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 5: With with with where we we thought the best the 274 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 5: best group was. And and so obviously Joe knows him, 275 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 5: and we had a few teams reach out when when 276 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 5: we let it be known that we would listen, and. 277 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 4: You know, Joe obviously no one was here when we. 278 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 5: Drafted him, and so those guys, uh, you know, reached 279 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 5: out and we made the deal. He never you know, 280 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 5: you never want that to to not work when you 281 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 5: draft a guy you know as high as we did Boogie. 282 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 4: But that's that's the nature of the business. You know, 283 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 4: these are. 284 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 5: People and and sometimes it just it doesn't mesh at 285 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 5: the right time. And Boogie's a great person, and you know, 286 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 5: just like we have with some other players, you know, 287 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 5: you know, wish him the best, and you know he 288 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 5: can still play and hopefully this next stop will will 289 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 5: be a gooin for him. 290 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's those are just the circumstances. And 291 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: the Bills aren't the only team that did something like this. 292 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean the Pittsburgh Steelers the other day. They had 293 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: a former third round pick, interior offensive lineman Kendrick Green. 294 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: He was not going to be in their starting lineup, 295 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: even though he was a starter as a rookie and 296 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: played fifteen games in twenty twenty one, fell out of 297 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: the starting lineup last year, was going to make the 298 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: roster this year, but was going to be a backup. 299 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: And they send him to the Houston Texans, who have 300 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: injuries on their offensive line and need help, and they 301 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: flipped him for a late round pick. So you know, 302 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: you said, ah, second round pick, and all you're getting 303 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: is a six forum and you had to give up 304 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: a seven to do it. The Steelers turned around did 305 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: the same thing with a former third round pick. This 306 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: is happening across the league. So I would just encourage 307 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: Bills fans that are frustrated that to just look around 308 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: the league a little bit because it is happening everywhere. 309 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: Everybody gets stuck doing that. And one of the reasons 310 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: they do it is because these teams know, like Boogie 311 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: Boogie was not gonna make the team and he was 312 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: gonna get picked up, So a team will give up 313 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: a draft pick, so the Bills will get something back 314 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: in return. And I'll say this on behalf of the 315 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: player Boogie in this case, and all these other players 316 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: that you're talking about, they wish they'd gotten cut because 317 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: they might get a better deal being a free agent 318 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: rather than just getting traded because their contract just goes 319 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: to the other team. So instead of becoming a free 320 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: agent all of a sudden, they just get traded. It's 321 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: the same deal and maybe a better or worse or 322 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: sideways move for him. The player doesn't have any choice 323 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: in it, and you know, that's that's really the bad 324 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: part of it for the player. He could be going 325 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: to a place you pick it, Chicago or Houston or whatever. 326 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: They got a ton of caps paid. They think the 327 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: guy's gonna play. Put him on the fifty three. It's like, 328 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: that's fine, but you got to like give me fifty 329 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: percent more than I was making for the Bills, yeah, 330 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: or I'm gonna go to whatever whatever. And the Bills 331 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 2: won't do it because now at least they get a 332 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: seventh for him. At least they're not cutting the guy 333 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: out right, they got a sixth. You're getting a sixth 334 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: for him, so you know they're gonna get something back 335 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: for him. But the other on the other side of 336 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: the equation, the other team gets the cost benefit of 337 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: his rookie salary and they don't have to pay him. 338 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: You know. I mean, well that's that's the same reason. 339 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 2: But there you have it. 340 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: One of the reasons Boogie Bashan was not going to 341 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: make the roster was because of this player who did 342 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: make the roster. Kingsley Jonathan, the undrafted rookie signed by 343 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: the Bills last year in May, made the practice squad 344 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: here last year, then got signed off Buffalo's practice squad, 345 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: played five games for the Chicago Bears, and then the 346 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: Bears released him, and the Bills pounced and we're able 347 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: to get him signed back to their practice squad for 348 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Last year they signed him 349 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: as a reserve future free agent and lo and behold, 350 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: he advances his game and he makes the roster this year. 351 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: Here is Brandon Bean on what Kingsley Jonathan showed him 352 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: to make himself worthy for a roster spot. 353 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Kingsley last year at this time, I 354 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 5: was very disappointed because we were hoping to He was 355 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 5: a tough decision a year ago. 356 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 4: He was rookie. 357 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 5: We just felt like, you know, not sure if he 358 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 5: was quite ready for the fifty three. We lose him 359 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 5: to the Bears, and when we saw him get released 360 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 5: and get him back here, I was I was very excited. 361 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 5: So I wasn't I wasn't going to do that again. 362 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 5: I think Kingsley just kept coming and coming in camp. 363 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 5: He just he plays with a motor and it's. 364 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 4: He plays violent. 365 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 5: He's relentless, and he's still learning the pass rush moves 366 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 5: and all that that that you need at this level. 367 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 5: But his you know he's got a motor that you know, 368 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 5: it'd be hard to match. And so we're just a 369 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 5: young player and we you know, we have veterans in 370 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 5: Vaughn and Leonard Floyd and these guys just a chance 371 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 5: to interject, you know, a young guy. He also helps 372 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 5: Matt Smiley's group on special teams. You know, if he 373 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 5: if he's getting a jersey, that would be another area 374 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 5: he can help us. 375 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean that last part, that last comment there by 376 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: Brandon being about being able to help on special teams, 377 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: that could be the difference between him dressing on Sunday. 378 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: Because if you look at the roster right now, Steve, 379 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: obviously we know von Miller's out of the equation. He's 380 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: on He's on I R for the first four weeks 381 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: of the season. But then you have Rousseau and Floyd 382 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: who are your starters, and then it's Epinessa who's probably 383 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: your number three, and then it's Kingsley Jonathan and Shaq 384 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: loss It. Shaq Lawson doesn't play on special teams, Kingsley 385 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: Jonathan does. So I think there is a really good 386 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: chance Week one that Kingsley john is part of the 387 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: rotation at defensive end and that Shaq Lawson is probably 388 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: your inactive. 389 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: I'm thinking like Kingsley john and I don't know. I 390 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: don't know anything about anything. I'm just from what I see. 391 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: Kingsley Jonathan to me is the most one of the 392 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 2: most intriguing guys on the entire roster. His upside is 393 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 2: limitless right now, limitless. And he's playing pass rusher and 394 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: he's getting tutored by Vaughan and he's been playing football 395 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 2: for like five years. I mean, the guy is And 396 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 2: he did some stuff in the preseason or I watched 397 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: I was like, did you just see what he did? 398 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of it seems to come naturally. 399 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 400 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: He whether he doesn't have any of the bad habits 401 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,959 Speaker 2: that young players have, or he doesn't think. Whatever his 402 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: work ethic is is off the charts. His motor is 403 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: off the charts. He's learning things now that some guys, 404 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: you know, just never got a chance to learn. And 405 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: he's soaking it up because he really feels like he's 406 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 2: still young and has a lot to learn, Like he 407 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: hasn't had the success that some of these guys have had. 408 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: They thinking, no, I got this. He's like soaking it up, 409 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: you know, he's you know, he could be a guy 410 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: that like gets into the realm of even this year, 411 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: a guy like the way Jerry Hughes was for this club. 412 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: A guy that gets in there and all of a sudden, 413 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: you look at the season at the end of the 414 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 2: sea's got twelve sacks. You know, that's how good I 415 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 2: think that pastor his presser says, now he just needs reps. Yeah, 416 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: I think he just needs reps an opportunity. Now, he's 417 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: not gonna get it. He's not going to play ahead 418 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 2: of Rousseau or Floyda, but he's gonna play. 419 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh no, he's going to rotate in. We know, 420 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: these guys roll eight people on the defensive line. They're 421 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: gonna roll guys. So he's gonna get his share. 422 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 2: About it too. The guy is ascending, and I mean 423 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: it's steep. Yeah, that's the fun part of it. So 424 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: I'm I've we've been talking. I've been talking about him 425 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: for like three days on the show. This thing is awesome. 426 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: You're getting goosebumps over there. 427 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really excited about him. 428 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: We already mentioned Christian Kirksey officially signed to the practice 429 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: squad today and Brandon Bean although it wasn't official. When 430 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: he spoke to the media yesterday, wasn't shy and talking 431 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: about him being added to the practice squad, and he 432 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: explains what the addition of a veteran linebacker of Kirksey's 433 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: caliber means going forward for the football team. 434 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's Uh, it's a veteran guy. You know, 435 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 5: we got some guys on the team that know him. 436 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 5: We kind of ra after him a few years ago 437 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 5: and he ended up going to Cleveland, I think and 438 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 5: coincidentally all Hulk him, uh coached him over there. And 439 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 5: so I feel like we've been after this guy a 440 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 5: few times and uh, you know, he had a he 441 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 5: battled a hamstring at Houston this preseason, and so they 442 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 5: made the move to terminate him. And you know with 443 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 5: you know, with us terminating AJ, we just we felt, 444 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 5: you know, Christian getting in here, getting our system. 445 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 4: I don't know exactly. 446 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 5: You know, he's going through the physical now where he's at, 447 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 5: if he's full, if he's full, they're not. Hopefully passes 448 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 5: the physical, but and then kind of rap him up 449 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 5: in our system and we'll see where it goes. 450 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: So that's kind of where Kirksey sits. And you know, 451 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: like I said earlier, I think he's an insurance policy. 452 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: I think the Bills are hopeful that the younger players 453 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: that they've pushed into the middle linebacker roles, first team, 454 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: second team. However it shakes out between Bernard and Dodson, 455 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: Kirksey's the insurance policy sitting behind them. So if those 456 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: two guys whoever, it might be week one, two, three, 457 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: or four that's starting. If it doesn't pan out the 458 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: way the coaching staff hopes, Kirksey is your fallback option 459 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: and he would be, you know, brought up to the 460 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: active roster at that point in time, or if there's 461 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: a long term injury, there's another guy. You know, he's 462 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: a guy that's probably brought up to the active roster. 463 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: Right So I'm yeah, we're right where we were last 464 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: year with AJ Klein. You might see him once in 465 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: a while during the season, and then if Kirksey is 466 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: the kind of athlete that we think he might be, 467 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: maybe you do see him. As the season rolls on, 468 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: he gets more and more reps, and at the end 469 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: of the season, maybe he's in there all the time. 470 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, but the guy had one point in 471 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 2: his career, had two hundred and eighty tackles in two seasons. 472 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: And the guy knows how to get guys on the ground, 473 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: So you don't forget that. 474 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: Let's quickly whip around the NFL. Brought to you by 475 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: Kalida Health, the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. 476 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: And there is a new top dog in the tight 477 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: end earnings rankings. His name is TJ. Hockinson, the Minnesota 478 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: Vikings receiver whom the Vikings traded for in an intra 479 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: division deal with the Detroit Lions. Guy had over one 480 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: hundred targets last year Steve at the tight end position. 481 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: The only other tight end that I think had that 482 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: many was Travis Kelce signs a four year, sixty eight 483 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: and a half million dollar contract extension. The deal is 484 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: going to make him the highest paid tight end in 485 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: the NFL in terms of average annual value of seven 486 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: teen point two million per year. Tight end moving on 487 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: up to the east side, bless his heart, it's tight 488 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: end position. The average annual value has been going up precipitously. 489 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: Well, if you've got guys that can really make a 490 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 2: difference for you, and plus if they can do everything 491 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 2: they can push around on the run game, plus catch 492 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: the ball and get open, get separated, all that stuff. 493 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 2: It's closer and closer, Brownie, to where we're gonna play 494 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 2: positionless football on the offense at the skill positions. Yeah, 495 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: you know, there'll be guys who can line up and 496 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: take a handoff and then split out wide and run 497 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 2: a route or get on the end of the line 498 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: of scrimmage and push guys around. They're gonna get bigger, faster, stronger, 499 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: and if you're that good, you're gonna make that kind 500 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 2: of money. Hockinson's and they had a dynamite season last year. 501 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: I think it was a little fortuitous. I think it 502 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 2: was a little puffy. I think it was a little artificial. 503 00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: But nevertheless, Hockinson cashed in at the right time. And 504 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: this is that time of year when guys do that. 505 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: There might be somebody in the Bills getting an extension. 506 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 2: Is that kind of where teams have Okay, so we 507 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 2: got a few little got a few million laying around. 508 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: Whose turn is it kind of thing? Let's get somebody 509 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 2: tied up. That kind of season, the extension season. 510 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: It is the extension season. I just saw that alec Ingold, 511 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: the fullback for the Dolphins saw that just signed a 512 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 1: three year extension for like seventeen million. 513 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 6: Correct. 514 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: How are you feeling now? If you are Christian Wilkins, 515 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: you have been waiting to get paid by the Dolphins 516 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: all off season. A handful of other premium defensive tackles 517 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: have signed contract extensions. They can't get a deal done 518 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: with you, guys, you and your people, and yet they 519 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: sign the guy that lines up next to you to 520 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: a contract extension. Zach Sealer yesterday, three year extension for him. 521 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: Nice player, but he's not Christian Wilkins. 522 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: He wasn't getting Wilkins money either, right. 523 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: And now they try turn around and sign the full 524 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: back to the extension of full back. 525 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: I might be leaning over my bathroom sync looking in 526 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: myself in the mirror, going what fullback? 527 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: What is going on? There's got to be smoke coming 528 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: out of Christian Wilkins. Ears. 529 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 2: I thought the same thing. What they're paying that to 530 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 2: a full back? 531 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: Now, let's not forget the Miami offensive system is similar 532 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: to San Francisco's. And we know how Kyle Uschek is 533 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: a very valuable fullback there. So you understand the logic 534 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: in terms of the offensive system that they run. But 535 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: the optics for Christian Wilkins, I mean, he's got to 536 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: have smoke coming out of his ears, like when am 537 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: I getting mine? Apparently they were still talking and the 538 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: Wilkins camp rejected the latest contract offer from the Dolphins 539 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: because they didn't like how the guarantees in the contract 540 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: were structured. So clearly there's not enough guaranteed money upfront 541 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: for Wilkins liking. So if they ever get that sorted out, 542 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: we'll see. But he's got to be hot right now. 543 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: Speaking of the Dolphins, one other housekeeping note to mention 544 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, who we all remember suffered ANEE injury early 545 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: in training camp with Miami. He was put on injured 546 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: reserve yesterday, which means he will miss the Bills game 547 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: in Week four Bill's Dolphins. He will not be available 548 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: for that football game. Something just to not you know, 549 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: note down. He will not be a part of that 550 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: football game in Week four up here in Buffalo. Neither 551 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: will Von Miller. But Jalen Ramsey is out for that game. 552 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: And I think both those guys are big difference makers. 553 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: I think Ramsey can still play. I think a lot 554 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: of Bills fans think Ramsey can still play. And I've 555 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: seen we've seen Steph chew him up and spit him 556 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: out too. Yes. Last yeah, he's caught a couple of 557 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 2: touchdowns against him. He caught one in yes, one on 558 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: one coverage in the red zone, Boom touched down right around, 559 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: I mean turned him in a circle. And then last 560 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: year the deep ball over the top he got him 561 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: as well. So and that's from a guy Jalen Ramsey 562 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: can play. But when you know, when Steph's got a 563 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: full field in some space, you're gonna have a hard 564 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 2: time and Josh throwing him the football, you gotta have 565 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: a hard time covering. Yeah, but I'm that does not help 566 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: the Dolphins at all. No, I mean that's I think 567 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: that's a big loss. 568 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: And they also recently traded Noah Igbanaghane, their former first 569 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: round pick at corner, to the Dallas Cowboys for a 570 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 1: draft choice in return. So they made themselves even thinner 571 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: at the position, which is kind of peculiar. You don't 572 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: often see that when you know you're gonna be without 573 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: one guy that first four weeks. 574 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: Part of the evidence we were talking about, if you 575 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: want to if you think Brandon Bean's throwing draft picks away, 576 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: go check the Dolphins out. 577 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, a last bit of news before we go to 578 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: break a little bit of sad news. Former Cowboys director 579 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: of player personnel, NFL scouting innovator and former NFL media 580 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: analyst Gil Brandt has died at the age of ninety one. 581 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: Brand as you know, worked for the Rams and forty 582 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: nine Ers after going to Wisconsin, and then joined the 583 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys for their first season in nineteen sixty. Over the 584 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: next twenty eight years, he helped discover numerous star players 585 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: who contributed to the Super Bowl titles in Dallas. Had 586 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: a hand in a number of innovations that still impact 587 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: the game today. The Dallas Cowboys one of the first 588 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: teams to use computers for scouting. Yep, they were very 589 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: innovative down there was one of the reasons they always 590 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: had stacked rosters for. 591 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 2: Tom talking about old analog computers too. I mean it 592 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: was oh yeah, it was car it was cards and spreadsheets. 593 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: They were also one of the first teams to bring 594 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: athletes from other sports into the NFL. 595 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: Anderson ed too tall Jones they brought in. There were 596 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: track guys too, Yeah, Everson Walls, Yes, a ton of 597 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: guys from other sports. 598 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: So you know, Robert House was a guy went into 599 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, was inducted into the Hall of Fame, 600 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: I think in twenty nineteen. So nice that he had 601 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: his day in the sun before you know, his unfortunate 602 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: passing here at the age of ninety one. Gil Brandt 603 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: an icon in the scouting community of the NFL for sure. 604 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: We got to take a break here. When we come back. 605 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: We talked to you about Christian Kirksey. Now hear from 606 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: him after his first practice in a Bill's uniform. Christian 607 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: Kirksey addressing the media after practice today. We'll bring those 608 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: comments to you next here on One Bill's Live, presented 609 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back 610 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live. I looked it up just 611 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: to make sure I understood what the compensation was. When 612 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: the dolphinship noegg Monogaane their former first round draft pick 613 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: at cornerback over to Dallas. Dallas actually sent them a 614 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: corner back, Kelvin Joseph, who's a former second round pick 615 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: of their So you want to talk about top picks 616 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: getting moved, there's an example right there. As we say 617 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: said before, the break, Christian Kirksey addressed the media after 618 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: his first practice in a Bill's uniform as a member 619 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: of their practice squad. As the practice squad was filled 620 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: out to sixteen by the signing of Kirksey and Shane Bouschell, 621 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: the quarterback. But here now is Kirksey addressing the media 622 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: after his first Bill's practice. 623 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 3: Today. 624 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: It feels like this was a long time coming. I 625 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: don't know, for years. Every year it's like, oh, Christian Kirksey, 626 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 2: that makes sense in Buffalo. Why did it finally happen? 627 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 3: You know, I have some good people that's over here. 628 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 6: Micah Poyer, Shaq Lassa Vin, just a bunch of people 629 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 6: that's in the coaching staff that I've been with, Al Hoping, 630 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 6: Bobby Baptist I've been with in the past. And uh, 631 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 6: I like the coaches that got over here, you know, 632 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 6: being a part of winning coacher. You know, I'm all 633 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 6: about that. 634 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 3: I'm hungry. I'm ready to you know, help out wherever 635 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: I can. I'm ready to win. So that was a 636 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 3: no Brandon for me. 637 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 2: I know it's to stay one. 638 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 7: But Brandon talked a little bit about you being familiar 639 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 7: with Alan the defense they raid in Cleveland. 640 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, early here, but you feel like you'rena be able 641 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: to train tansition pretty quickly. 642 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I mean when it comes to defenses. Uh. 643 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 6: The biggest thing difference in my opinion of playing a 644 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 6: different defenses and terminology. How how is the language, uh, 645 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 6: on the defensive side of the ball today? Uh, how's 646 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 6: the language on the defenside of the ball? The communication? 647 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 6: I think that's the toughest part when it comes to 648 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 6: adjusting to learning new defenses. But at the end of 649 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 6: the day, defensive defense, you got certain coverages. You gotta 650 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 6: adjust to some of the bitches. But you know, you 651 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 6: only could do so much on defense, and it's all 652 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 6: about the communication part. 653 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 3: So for me, I'm a quick learner. I get on 654 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: board real fast. 655 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 8: Do you feel like it might make a transition even 656 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 8: that much smoother knowing the familiarity. 657 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 3: You have with some of the guys like might Cut, Jordan, 658 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 3: the people you mentioned. Yeah, I mean anytime you're around family. 659 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 6: And make it a lot easier when you're in an 660 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 6: unfamiliar place. But when you got familiar faces, man, that 661 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 6: that transition is it is so easy. So I'm excited 662 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 6: God making no mistakes, you know, I'm here now and 663 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 6: you know, ready to roll. 664 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 3: What's the opportunity like for you to be in the 665 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 3: defense like this? It's been so good for so many years. 666 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 6: Man, the opportunity, Man, it's great for me because I'm 667 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 6: around a group of guys that you know, they've been 668 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 6: a top defense. 669 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 3: In this lead for a while. 670 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 6: And to be able to be a part of it 671 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 6: and have this opportunity, man, it's humbling. I'm hungry, you know, 672 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 6: coming into your team. You know this this this time, 673 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 6: so you know I ready to win. I raid the 674 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,479 Speaker 6: ball and just follow the lead of the leaders that's here, 675 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,919 Speaker 6: and then you never know what may happen. 676 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 7: It gives you on the expectation in terms of like 677 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 7: a timeline. I mean obviously, I know you practice squad 678 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 7: is not going to be your ultimate goal in terms 679 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 7: of like doing name the fifty three or anything like that. 680 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 6: Got a discussion at all, you know, right now, head 681 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 6: down trying to learn his playbook. 682 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 3: Everything can work out for yourself. You know. 683 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 6: All I could do on my end is control the 684 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 6: controller and that's me, you know, getting my head in 685 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 6: the plays and learning as fast as possible. 686 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 3: And then the chips part of. 687 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 7: The foth what are your you know you've done those 688 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 7: of the forwards to learn new schemes, new systems, you know, Yeah, absolutely. 689 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 6: I mean, so this your is going for your team. Man, 690 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 6: it's this is my seventh seventh defense. 691 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 3: And good have to learn. 692 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 8: Yeah. 693 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 3: So I'm I'm familiar with adapt and that's that's the league. 694 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 3: You know, it's given. 695 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 6: You know, people go from place to place, so you know, 696 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 6: being part of being a professional knowing your job is 697 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 6: to be able to have a sharp mind and be 698 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 6: able to adapt. 699 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 2: So what's realistic for you in terms of a timeline? 700 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 7: Is it a week? 701 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 2: Is it a month? 702 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 7: Or is it you know you still feeling that out. 703 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 3: I guess ah. 704 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 6: I mean it's as soon as possible in my in 705 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 6: my opinion, Uh, that's that's my mindset. As soon as possible. 706 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 6: So I'm I'm learning as fast as I can. And uh, 707 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 6: you know when they make that decision to make. 708 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 8: That decision, you mentioned culture being the thing that you 709 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 8: really liked about the idea of coming here. 710 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, what are some things that Michael and Jordan of 711 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 2: culture about that? 712 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 6: Quint Man, it's uh a family atmosphere. I believe you 713 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 6: said this defense has been together the court is defense 714 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 6: been together for seven seven years or so, so it 715 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 6: all in all. Honestly, I haven't played with a defense 716 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 6: longer than two years, cause it's all always change in 717 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 6: the places that I've been. So to be able to 718 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 6: be in a defensive scheme where the guys are the guys, 719 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 6: the scheme is the scheme stability, that's that's something that's 720 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 6: great here. And uh, that's something that you know, being 721 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 6: on a different team and seeing it from afar, you 722 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 6: can tell that it's a close knit group. You could 723 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 6: tell that the culture is said, so it was a 724 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 6: no brainer for you know, one of my best friends, 725 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 6: Michael and Poorer to hit me up and you know, 726 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 6: just bring me in and understand that just the culture 727 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 6: just to standard. 728 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 3: And uh, they won't to be a part of them here. 729 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 7: The first question kind of alluded to it. But if 730 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 7: you've known that there's been an interest on the those. 731 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 2: Part in your in you, in you. 732 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 7: Before us and maybe it just didn't work out, but 733 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 7: you know it is that something that you would maybe 734 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 7: considered being here before. 735 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know being shine all all those guys, Uh, 736 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 6: I had conversations with them long time ago in the 737 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 6: past doing free agency a few years ago. So you know, 738 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 6: one day they struck my attention by the way they 739 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 6: carried themselves. I'm all about character, guy, and you know 740 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 6: we have the character you can see a bleed out 741 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 6: and the rest of the team, so spoken with them. 742 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 6: I had conversation with them, and then you know, the 743 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 6: NFL is out about Tom and the right Tom came, 744 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 6: an opportunity to came, and I'm here talk about all right. 745 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: So that's Christian Kirksey who is finally in Buffalo. As 746 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 1: you heard Brandon being mentioned, and then Christian Kirksey was asked, 747 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: you know they've kicked the tires on you before, two 748 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: or three times before and now you're finally here. Why 749 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: And you know he mentioned the friendship he has with 750 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: Micah Hyde also knows Jordan Poyer really well, having played 751 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: with him in Cleveland, so they were former teammates there, 752 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: so he knows those two guys like the back of 753 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,919 Speaker 1: his hand. He mentioned Al Hulcom, the defensive assistant who's 754 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: here that he knows and has played under because he 755 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: was his linebackers coach in Cleveland. So there's a lot 756 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: of familiarity here walking in the door and even the 757 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: system to a certain extent, there's some familiarity there, having 758 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: played in a similar version of it under Steve Wilkes, 759 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,959 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator in Kansas City when he was there, 760 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: a disciple of Sean McDermot and Carolina. So that's how 761 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: the defensive system Tree works in terms of providing Kirksey 762 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: with some familiarity. So we'll see how it all plays 763 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: out for him. 764 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm too early to tell, obviously, but he's at 765 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 2: least a guy who most Bills fans has a name 766 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: that people recognize and want to see him play. It 767 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: sounds like it's an upgrade at least in a depth position, 768 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 2: if not a guy who can compete and give you 769 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 2: some quality snaps. But it's too early to tell that. 770 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: Now, that is true. So you know, you look at 771 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: where they are at the middle linebacker spot. They have 772 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 1: not declared a starter as of yet, and I wonder 773 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: Steve if it's due in part to them wanting to 774 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: give to rel Bernard a fair shake over these next 775 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: ten to twelve days. Obviously, he missed the entire preseason, 776 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: which pulled him out of the competition pretty precipitously. After 777 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: he had a pretty good training camp pulls his hamsterring 778 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: on the last day of camp at Fisher misses all 779 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: three preseason games, and they haven't named a starter yet 780 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: and aj Klein has since been moved off the roster, who, 781 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: by the way, was getting first team reps at times, 782 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: rotating in and out with Tyrel Dodson. Right now, you've 783 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: got Dotson and Bernard healthy. They haven't named a starter. 784 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: To me, the door is still open for Terrell Bernard 785 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: to seize that. 786 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 2: So well, there's only there's only two guys there now. 787 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 2: I mean, they're not gonna give Medickevitch those snaps or anything. 788 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 2: I mean, the linebacking room is empty because Specter's not 789 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 2: on the field and Milana's playing the other slot. Medickevitch 790 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 2: isn't gonna have it. It's either Bernard or and you 791 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 2: could say Dorian Williams, but Dorian Williams is kind of 792 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 2: that guy that's playing behind Milano. So yeah, he might 793 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 2: get he might be working in with the ones for 794 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 2: the next week or so until they get into game week, 795 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 2: and then if this week goes well, well, maybe he 796 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 2: does step onto the field as the number one. 797 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 798 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 2: I don't think that's I don't think that final chapter 799 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 2: that's been written yet, so we'll see. I'm I know 800 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 2: this there. Once they make that decision, we've seen it 801 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 2: too much, Brownie. The guy's gonna have to play himself 802 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 2: off the field before anybody plays themselves on. You know 803 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 2: what I mean, I would agree with that, So I 804 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 2: think that's a fair assessment. I think whoever does get 805 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 2: those snaps in week one is going to continue to 806 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 2: until the coaching staff thinks they stink. 807 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't disagree with any of that. 808 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 2: I'm exaggerating to make a point on it, nothing but yes. 809 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: But inherently it's it's correct. I mean even if you 810 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: are exaggerating. 811 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 2: Right, I mean, they're just they're gonna say, listen, I 812 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 2: think we're the other guy's gonna play better. That's and 813 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 2: he'll he'll play until that happens. 814 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, break time for us here. Plenty more for us 815 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: to get into regarding practice, where the roster is headed, 816 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: and some decisions that were made on the practice squad. 817 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: We'll dice some of those up when we return here. 818 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: On One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo 819 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 1: Bills Radio. The Buffalo Bill's London Raffle is now live. 820 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: Tickets can be purchased at Bill'sfoundation dot org for a 821 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 1: trip for two to London from now until September eighth. 822 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 1: This will benefit the Buffalo Bill's Foundation. 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Those 833 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 2: those guys, I mean, I'd for that. Jacksonville is going 834 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 2: to be so done with being in hotels and you know, 835 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 2: being away from the their facility. I think they're going 836 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 2: to be so ready to get out of there. Okay, 837 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,439 Speaker 2: so they'll have a nice routine probably by the time 838 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 2: the game comes. But let's face the Bills are going 839 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,760 Speaker 2: to go in like on a Thursday, play the game Sunday, 840 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 2: and let's go get out of there. You know, that's 841 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 2: the research says. If you can't go early enough, like 842 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 2: the Jacksonville is going to do for the Bills game, 843 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 2: if you can't go early enough to get acclimated to 844 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 2: that time zone, then go as late as you can 845 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 2: play and get out and then deal with the jet 846 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 2: lag on the way on after you get back, rather 847 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 2: than while you're there. I think that's the way to 848 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 2: do it. Go as eight as you possibly can, as 849 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 2: late as the league will allow you, and then get home. 850 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 2: Because you think about it, if you're going to get 851 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 2: acclimated to the time zone, to the London time zone, 852 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 2: you're playing the game, you know, you play the game 853 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 2: right at like one o'clock or whatever it is. Yeah, 854 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 2: it's nine nine thirty here. Then you got to come 855 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 2: back and you're gonna be on It's a little whacky. Yeah, 856 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 2: I I would much rather because leave late, leave late. 857 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 2: Just get over there, play the game. Come back. You're 858 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 2: not gonna want to. You're in the middle of the season. 859 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 2: You say, Buckingham Palace and the Tower of London for 860 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 2: another trip, and you know, go over play, come home. 861 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 2: Treat it like every other game. 862 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: Right, And the last time we were there eight years ago. 863 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: The Bills stayed out in Watford, which is like a 864 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: forty minute train ride from London proper, because I took 865 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: the train, so I know in the tubes there. And 866 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: it kind of had the players out on an island, 867 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 1: so they couldn't really go anywhere, you know what I mean, 868 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 1: Like could they take a cab on their day off 869 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: and go go to London Shore. But I didn't get 870 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 1: the sense that too many of them took the time 871 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 1: to do that, just because of all the adjustment with 872 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 1: the time and that whole thing. We had press conferences 873 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: in a greenhouse. 874 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 4: It was weird. 875 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: It was just a weird week. It's like we were 876 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: out on the farm. 877 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 2: Man. It's interesting because you when the country when you 878 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 2: overlap with other sports, in this case soccer, they don't 879 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,399 Speaker 2: do stuff the way the NFL does stuff. They don't 880 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 2: have player accessibility except like before and after game, right, 881 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, maybe not can they pretend to know 882 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,439 Speaker 2: what it looks like during the week, but they play 883 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 2: more often than one. They played weird. 884 00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: Schedules usually two games a week. Two games a week, well, yeah, 885 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: they have a league game and then if they're in 886 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: a Champions League or the Europa League, they would have 887 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: a second game in the span of a week. 888 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 2: Also, it's all different, so they're not set up for 889 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 2: the kind of infrastructure that NFL team needs. Plus the 890 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 2: NFL's got it like a massive roster in comparison to 891 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 2: just about every other spin. Yeah, so you got a 892 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 2: ton of guys. The locker rooms have to be beefed 893 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 2: up and expanded. They're not used to having three hundred 894 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 2: pound guys use the facilities, you know, like the I'm serious, 895 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 2: like the simply the chairs and the stools and the 896 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 2: benches around the locker room. You know, they got these 897 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 2: little dollar ninety eight folding chairs. They just don't hold 898 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 2: up all that stuff, all the little details. Just go 899 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 2: in play and get out. Don't even don't spend a 900 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 2: week over there, man, I mean, I know it sounds 901 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 2: fun and glamorously. 902 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 1: That's what happened when the Bills were over there under 903 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: res in twenty Fifeen. We literally flew there right after 904 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: the home game against the Bengals. Game ends and by 905 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 1: I think it was six seven pm. We had to 906 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: be ready to get on the bus. We had to 907 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: bring our suitcases for the week to the facility on 908 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: Friday afternoon before that Sunday game against the Bengals, and 909 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: then that stuff got thrown on the bus and then 910 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 1: we were the last thing to get on the bus. 911 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,760 Speaker 1: And then we went up to Toronto to fly direct 912 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 1: out of Toronto. You flew out of Toronto, Yes, direct 913 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 1: out of Toronto commercial. Yeah. Well, I mean we had 914 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: our own plane, but it was yeah, right, but we 915 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: flew yeah, direct out of Toronto. 916 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 2: Huh yeah. 917 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: Interesting, So I'm guessing we'll do that again, like bus 918 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: up to Toronto fly out of the air That would 919 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: seem to make sense. I mean, it's the biggest major 920 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: international airport where you can have direct flights to European cities. 921 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:00,760 Speaker 3: Though it couldn't. 922 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 2: It depends on customs is the. 923 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 4: Issue that is, right, right. 924 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: But so essentially we did that at the border going 925 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 1: over the Peace Bridge, they checked the passports the whole lot. 926 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 2: Just go to the airport. Yeah, presto changer. Yeah, I 927 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 2: get it. 928 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: But yeah, and then and then getting back it's like bang, 929 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: you gotta start another week, and you know that kind 930 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 1: of thing. Because the Bills don't have a bye coming 931 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: off that game. Their bye is later. It's in December. 932 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: The first day of December, I think, so it's going 933 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: to be an interesting juggling act there, getting back, reacclimated 934 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: and getting ready for a week six Sunday night game 935 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: against the Giants. It's going to be a very interesting week, 936 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,879 Speaker 1: not only leading up to the London game, but coming 937 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: out of it and getting ready for another game against 938 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, a good Giants team here in Brian Dables 939 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: homecoming the West Seneca Native. I know there'll be storylines 940 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 1: there for sure, plenty of storylines. 941 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 9: Uh. 942 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: We have our number two come your way, where we 943 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: will discuss more about this roster now that it looks 944 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 1: to be set for the most part, and we also 945 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: are anticipating a conversation with one Jordan Palmer. For those 946 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: that don't know, he is not only Josh Allen's off 947 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: season quarterbacks guru, he also works with Kyle Allen, the 948 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: backup quarterback for the Bills, and Jordan Palmer and Kyle 949 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: Allen do a podcast together, So we're going to learn 950 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: more about that in the second hour of the show 951 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: as well. We take a break here, bring that all 952 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 1: to you when we return here on one Bills Live 953 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: presented by to Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. 954 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,479 Speaker 2: This this One Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Health. 955 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,240 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to our number two here on a Thursday. 956 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasper with you. One Bill's Live is 957 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 1: the show. Thanks for joining us, Steve. One thing we 958 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 1: did not discuss that was announced yesterday as well. Eight 959 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,479 Speaker 1: count them eight team captains named for the twenty twenty 960 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 1: three season. I think this is the largest number of 961 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 1: captains they have ever had, and I know by league 962 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: rule you can only bring six to the coin toss 963 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,720 Speaker 1: on a game maximum, so I guess they'll alternate depending 964 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,879 Speaker 1: on the week. Stefan Diggs, Josh Allen, Jordan, Micah Hyde, 965 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 1: and Von Miller, along with Mitch Morse, have all been 966 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:09,240 Speaker 1: captains before the new captains, Tyler Matakaevich and Gabe Davis Steven. 967 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: Looking at these guys, it's hard for me not to 968 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: notice six of the eight captains with full blown beards. 969 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,879 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a thing. I think it's a thing. 970 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 1: I mean even Stefan Diggs has a little chin action 971 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 1: going on there, yeah, with his mustache. 972 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,760 Speaker 2: So Poyer and Diggs are really the only ones clean shaven. 973 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,280 Speaker 2: I guess looking at that, Yeah, that's interesting. 974 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 1: Six of the eight captains bearded. 975 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, yeah, and I was here here, I 976 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 2: am running my own I. 977 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 6: Know I was. 978 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm always kinda curious about that. Like, there's a lot 979 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: of guys with beards these days in the league. And 980 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,839 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but like I just think 981 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: about if you're wearing a helmet and a chin strap 982 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: and it's a hot game, like oh, that sweat's just 983 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: running into your beard, and I don't know, that would 984 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,880 Speaker 1: drive me nuts. I could, I couldn't handle that. 985 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I never really thought about him. 986 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,400 Speaker 2: But yet, beards are a bigger thing now than were 987 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 2: when I played. 988 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 4: That's for sure. 989 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 2: It's much more common, much more common. 990 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:16,439 Speaker 1: Ton of them. I mean Tyler Madi Kaevitch and Gabe Davis. 991 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,800 Speaker 2: Mitch Mitch, he's got a he's got a hanger, beauty. 992 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 1: He's got a hangar. I mean you need beard wax 993 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 1: for that one. And Tyler Mattickkvic like the red Beard. 994 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean he looks like he looks like Chris Kringle 995 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: from the Old Christmas, specially a young Chris Kringle. 996 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 2: He looks like a pirate. 997 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: Santa Claus is coming to town. That's a he looks 998 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 1: like that guy. That's the character he reminds me of. 999 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, eight eight captains and and they'll you know, 1000 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 2: they'll be they'll rotate him as to who goes out 1001 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 2: for the coin flipping like that. Madic Kevitch is really 1002 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 2: the only special teams guy, full blown special teams guy. 1003 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 1: So four on offense, three on defense, one on special teams. 1004 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 1: What do you make of Davis being named that for 1005 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: the first time. What do you think that signifies. 1006 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 2: I think he's kind of important. 1007 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 1: I think it says a lot about it because he's 1008 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 1: in a contract year. 1009 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 2: He's also he's also got one of we noticed it 1010 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 2: his rookie season, when you know he kind of the 1011 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 2: year that Josh really broke out was twenty twenty, and 1012 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 2: you know, Davis comes out, he catches the first ball 1013 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 2: of anybody on the team is rookie season. I remember that, 1014 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 2: and I think the kind of guy he is, I 1015 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 2: think he's he's got that about him. Maybe he's now 1016 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 2: that he's coming in his fourth year, he's got to 1017 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 2: feel like he's kind of comfortable enough to start talking 1018 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 2: a little bit more, you know, taking a leadership role, 1019 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 2: being a little more vocal certainly, and he certainly's learning 1020 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff from Josh and from Steph. I 1021 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,800 Speaker 2: think he's got that kind of personality, right. He's not 1022 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 2: one of those raw rah guys. 1023 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 1: No, that's what I That's what I was getting at, 1024 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: because to me, he doesn't strike me as a raw 1025 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 1: rah guy. He doesn't strike me as a super vocal guy. 1026 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: He's more of a lead by example guy. I guess 1027 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 1: Steph can do enough talking for the both of them 1028 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 1: to get people motivated because we've witnessed that on the 1029 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: practice field, forget about what game days like. And we 1030 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 1: know that Josh can be vocal when he needs to be, 1031 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,800 Speaker 1: So maybe Davis can be that leader by example because 1032 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, and Mitch isn't afraid to insert himself to 1033 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: motivate people either. 1034 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you need an offensive lineman as a captain. No, 1035 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:35,879 Speaker 2: that's yeah, that's a good move. Interesting. It's nice because 1036 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,359 Speaker 2: you never know. You kind of get an idea, yeah, okay, 1037 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,320 Speaker 2: Josh going to be a captain, Okay, but when you 1038 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 2: get down past that, sometimes you have a really good 1039 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 2: idea of who it's going to be for teams and stuff. 1040 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 2: But it does say something about who those guys are 1041 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 2: and how they're felt about in the locker room, no 1042 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:50,800 Speaker 2: question about it. 1043 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,320 Speaker 1: So good group. I mean, I don't know if you 1044 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,400 Speaker 1: could have picked a bad group, to be quite honest 1045 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,320 Speaker 1: with you, but those are your eight captains for the 1046 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: Bills this season. Gave Davis to On Diggs, Josh Allen, 1047 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer, Micah Hyde, Von Miller, Tyromida Kaevich, and Mitch Morse. 1048 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: And as we said, we would assume that they would 1049 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: be alternating and given weeks to go out for coin tosses, 1050 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,879 Speaker 1: wonder if the guy that goes out for the coin 1051 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 1: coin toss, if they get it correct, do they go 1052 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: out the next week? You know that whole superstition too. 1053 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:27,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a thing. Oh yeah, they're all yeah, 1054 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 2: they're very sensitive to routines. So if you I think, 1055 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 2: if you win that coin toss, I think you get 1056 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 2: the next one. You got to, right, you gotta go, Yeah, 1057 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 2: you get the next one. And when I was a 1058 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 2: team cabin I was for a number of years. I 1059 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 2: don't know that we had that kind of thing going on. 1060 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 2: I think we never really thought about it until we 1061 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 2: got out there. Who's gonna call it? 1062 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 1: Who called it? Last week. Did you get it right? 1063 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, we never really. You know, there's too so much 1064 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 2: water that you always feel like it ain't the coin 1065 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 2: flip that's winning this thing. Bro. 1066 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: You know, you if you win the coin toss and defer, 1067 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 1: you afford yourself the double dip. We've heard that half 1068 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 1: more often. 1069 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 2: But we never had that option, didn't those I did 1070 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,439 Speaker 2: screw up a coin flip one time, but it wasn't 1071 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 2: my fault. I let I let the other team off 1072 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 2: the hook. In fact, we ended up losing the game 1073 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,720 Speaker 2: in overtime, and it was an overtime the only overtime 1074 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 2: coin flip. But I always I think about that all 1075 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,400 Speaker 2: the time. Now it went the way it would have 1076 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 2: if nobody had made a mistake. But I had an opportunity, 1077 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 2: I think, to some game with some gamesmanship to get 1078 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,879 Speaker 2: both the wind and the ball because of the way 1079 00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 2: he said what he said. 1080 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 1: So, did you win the toss or lost the toss? 1081 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 2: And they know they won the toss. 1082 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 1: They won the toss, They won the toss. 1083 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 2: They won the toss, and they said we'll kick off 1084 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 2: and we'll take off. He said, we'll kick off and 1085 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 2: take the wind. Okay, I said, all right, we'll receive. 1086 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 2: We'll receive down there, you know. And that's why I said, right, well, 1087 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,439 Speaker 2: since he said we'll kick off and take the wind, 1088 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 2: I should have said, we'll defend this end. So when 1089 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 2: he said he's kicking off, I said, we'll defend this in. 1090 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 2: So I could have gotten the wind and the ball. 1091 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you were already getting the ball with them 1092 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: saying they're kicking off. By him not declaring an end 1093 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 1: to defend, that left the door open for. 1094 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,319 Speaker 2: You to do that. We'll say we'll take this end, 1095 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,800 Speaker 2: and by taking that in, we get the ball and 1096 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:15,919 Speaker 2: the way back. 1097 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 1: So okay, I mean that's not catastrophe. 1098 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 2: And I'm well, listen, we've seen officials sort that out 1099 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 2: and say wait, wait, wait, wait like that. But the 1100 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 2: official gave the guy a talking to after we were done. 1101 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 2: He's like, he was over there going, you can't you 1102 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 2: almost you know, says you can't do that. And it 1103 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 2: was John Elway. So Elway was sitting there going, what yeah, 1104 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,440 Speaker 2: you know some antics, right, yeah, but you know, what 1105 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,879 Speaker 2: are you gonna do? So I always wonder what would 1106 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 2: have happened has asked, I could have doubled down and said, oh, 1107 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 2: you're going to kick it off. I got you, we'll 1108 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 2: defend this in then that would have set it in stone, 1109 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,879 Speaker 2: and I had to get thrown out when they didn't 1110 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,799 Speaker 2: give us both the wind and the bawl. 1111 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 1: That would have been awesome, not you getting thrown out 1112 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 1: getting the win. 1113 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,799 Speaker 2: Taking my word for it's not awesome getting thrown out. 1114 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 2: No one. 1115 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 1: Other note that Brandon Bean mentioned yesterday when he addressed 1116 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 1: the media that we failed to pass along to you. 1117 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 1: He was asked about Connor McGovern's knee injury. He did 1118 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 1: return to practice on Wednesday, and you know had a 1119 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 1: brace on his knee, but he got through practice, practiced 1120 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: again today. I wouldn't call him one hundred percent, but 1121 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:36,959 Speaker 1: Brandon Bean, in being asked about Connor McGovern's injury, said 1122 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 1: it was nothing major and they do feel good about 1123 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 1: his status moving forward. So two straight days of practice, 1124 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: albeit probably not at full speed. They're encouraged by, you know, 1125 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 1: his recovery from that knee injury, which as we know 1126 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 1: kept him out of the last and final preseason game. 1127 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 1: Time for us though, to turn to the phone line, 1128 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 1: where joining us is quarterback coach in the summertime and 1129 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,160 Speaker 1: the off season for one Josh Allen and Kyle Allen 1130 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 1: as well. You've heard him on this show before. He 1131 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 1: is the CEO of the QB Summit in California. It 1132 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 1: is one Jordan Palmer joining us on the show and 1133 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 1: he's got some important news to pass along to us. Jordan, 1134 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 1: glad to have you with us. 1135 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 8: How you been, I'm doing great? Kidding me? Football seasons 1136 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 8: right here right now. This isn't actually a Buffalo Bill's hat. 1137 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 8: This is a first and second grade flag football league, 1138 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 8: Matt Lioner Flag League. We are the Buffalo Bills. So 1139 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 8: today's our first practice my second grade son. But no, 1140 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 8: football's here right around the corner. 1141 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 3: For me. 1142 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 8: The off season is my season. The season is my 1143 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 8: off season. So I'm coming out of a long run 1144 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 8: and fired up to it. So it'll work. These guys 1145 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 8: all put us together. This is the last seven months 1146 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 8: and see it come to question. 1147 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been and you keep I mean, you've got 1148 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,440 Speaker 2: a lot on your play. You're coaching flag football apparently, 1149 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 2: and you got that season kicking off your quarterback coaching. 1150 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 2: You're helping guys in the offseason at the highest level. 1151 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 2: You know, Kyle Allen and Josh Allen, those guys and 1152 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 2: others as well. And you're also the director of quarterback 1153 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 2: Development for the XFL, which you know entails probably touching 1154 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 2: base with a lot of guys who are trying to 1155 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 2: get right where Josh is these days. 1156 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 8: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, during the season, so the times have 1157 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 8: changed the old way of thinking of for any position 1158 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,120 Speaker 8: and really any sport, but with quarterbacks, which is I'm 1159 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 8: going to use the off season to get better and 1160 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 8: work on things and getting great shape, and then when 1161 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 8: the season rolls around, I'm going to try and maintain that. 1162 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,400 Speaker 8: That's an old way of thinking. So actually all of 1163 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 8: my clients are clients year round, and I'm typically Monday 1164 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 8: and Tuesday, I'm on Zoom with between twenty and thirty 1165 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 8: guys across Mondays and Tuesdays watching game tape with them 1166 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 8: breaking down looking at mechanics, and so it's just a 1167 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 8: new way of thinking. And so guys like you know, 1168 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,440 Speaker 8: you mentioned Josh and Kyle and a lot of guys 1169 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 8: around college football and a lot of guys around the league. 1170 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 8: And then the XFL this is their off season, and 1171 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 8: so we fired up here in September and go September, October, November, December, 1172 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 8: and then their season starts camps January, and the season 1173 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 8: starts right off the Super Bowl. So it's cyclical, and 1174 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,760 Speaker 8: it's now become twelve months a year for me. So 1175 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 8: the off season, you know, in the summers, as you mentioned, 1176 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,439 Speaker 8: I'm on the field a lot, but the work continues year. 1177 01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 1: Round, Jordan did in Josh has worked with you this offseason. 1178 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,080 Speaker 1: Did he have to change his regiment in any way 1179 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 1: at the outset, knowing he kind of played through the 1180 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 1: UCL injury, Like, did he have to take maybe a 1181 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 1: couple of extra weeks just to let everything kind of 1182 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,160 Speaker 1: calm down before we could, you know, start back up 1183 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 1: again with you. 1184 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, Josh, and guys that are one that are starters 1185 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 8: too that play in January and not everybody plays football 1186 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 8: in January. And then three guys who have ownership of 1187 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 8: their stroke, meaning just not working on throwing a consistent 1188 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 8: spiral anymore, not working on hitting certain spots over and 1189 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 8: over again. Right, he's got complete ownership of his stroke. 1190 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 8: You know, those guys start a lot later and take 1191 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 8: a lot more time off and they just don't need 1192 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 8: to throw year round. And so for Josh, recoveries is 1193 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 8: as valuable as as getting extra work in used to 1194 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 8: be with them. And it's not about how good you are. 1195 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 8: Once you get really good that you don't have to 1196 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 8: work anymore. It's not that. It's just the tax on 1197 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 8: his body the way he plays. And then you mentioned it. 1198 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 8: You know, if you go back to his rookie year, 1199 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 8: he had a UCL strain and I don't remember how 1200 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 8: bad it was, but it wasn't as bad as it 1201 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 8: was this past season, and he missed what seven eight games. Yeah, 1202 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,000 Speaker 8: this years a worse injury. That's just a testament to 1203 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 8: him understanding how to use his body, how to use 1204 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 8: the ground, how to be able to load lines of tension. 1205 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 8: And my hypothesis on that is he used to throw 1206 01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 8: with a lot more of his arm, so it put 1207 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,440 Speaker 8: a lot more strain on that use this past year 1208 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,440 Speaker 8: and really the last few years. But this past year 1209 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 8: when he had that injury, he does not put the 1210 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 8: same amount of stress on his UCL that he did before, 1211 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 8: and so he was able to not really miss much practice, 1212 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,040 Speaker 8: not miss any games, and until he ripped that fourth 1213 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:18,400 Speaker 8: down conversion at Detroit to Stapf was really the first 1214 01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 8: time that he just absolutely threw the ball as hard 1215 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,520 Speaker 8: as he could and felt anything. You know, and so 1216 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 8: I think that's a testament to him just developing the 1217 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 8: ownership of his stroke. And you know, the strongest arms 1218 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,400 Speaker 8: in football, Josh Allen's one of them, right. The guys 1219 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 8: who have big arms, their right arm is not necessarily 1220 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 8: stronger than everyone else's arm. It's more they know how 1221 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 8: to sequence, use the ground, load lines attention, and use 1222 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,120 Speaker 8: the leverage that they create with their feet. It's got 1223 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 8: to load those lines attention and use their entire body 1224 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:47,880 Speaker 8: and not just put the stress on their arm. 1225 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 2: So when you watch film with these guys and you 1226 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 2: go on zoom with you know, all the different clients 1227 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 2: that you're working with on a Monday or a Tuesday, 1228 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 2: you're not talking about where their eyes are, their plays, 1229 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 2: or the concepts they're runner year talking about how they 1230 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 2: look when they throw the football and how often maybe 1231 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 2: they're off platform. Do you're talking about absolute mechanics. 1232 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, So the focus of those is mechanics. I have 1233 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,000 Speaker 8: too much respect for their actual quarterback coach and their 1234 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,040 Speaker 8: actual office coordinator to tell them that they should have 1235 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 8: thrown it to Z on that play. So I don't 1236 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 8: get into the x's and o's a really at all 1237 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,680 Speaker 8: everything's and I also don't introduce any new things. I 1238 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 8: also in the middle of the season won't say, hey, 1239 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 8: try this. We've never talked about this before, we try this. 1240 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 8: It's all getting them back to where they were when 1241 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 8: they're at their best. So I have a lot of content, 1242 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,640 Speaker 8: you know, shot a lot of video, basically a video 1243 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 8: everything we do. And so I'm typically doing a video 1244 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 8: voice recording of something that I saw on a game 1245 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 8: on one side where they were inefficient in a movement 1246 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 8: and at the top of their drop they lost stability 1247 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 8: something like that, and a lot of times it's the 1248 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 8: result of that play was a great throw. I'm not 1249 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,360 Speaker 8: trying to fix missues with the elite guys. We're trying 1250 01:03:55,360 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 8: to build consistent movement and so and then I'm hear 1251 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,760 Speaker 8: that with a video of them doing it efficiently earlier. 1252 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 8: And so we were trying to use the season to 1253 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 8: get them back to where they were when they were, 1254 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 8: you know, at their best in the off season, where 1255 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,280 Speaker 8: they could just focus on mechanics. I believe that most 1256 01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 8: mechanical issues stem that a quarterback has, they stem from 1257 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 8: a movement that precedes the throw. So let's say Josh 1258 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,040 Speaker 8: misses a post over the top or hits it. 1259 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 3: I don't care. 1260 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 8: But he overstrided in a game, Well, if it was 1261 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,240 Speaker 8: a miss and he overstrided, I wouldn't say that it 1262 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 8: was a bad throw. I would say that it was 1263 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 8: a bad movement. You overstrided. You put yourself in a 1264 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 8: position to overstride by something you did right before you 1265 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,919 Speaker 8: hitched right. So it's the movement that precedes the throw 1266 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 8: that typically is what causes a miss on these elite guys, 1267 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,520 Speaker 8: and I've got a handful of them that I work with, 1268 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 8: and that's really the theme throughout the year. So I 1269 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 8: don't really step on toes. Some cases, I deal with 1270 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,960 Speaker 8: the quarterback coaches and the coordinators regularly. In some cases, 1271 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 8: I've never met the quarterback coach. 1272 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 1: All right, Jordan. So with all this that you're doing, 1273 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:04,640 Speaker 1: all these NFL clients, major college clients, flag football, you 1274 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 1: still carve out time for the qb Room podcast that 1275 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 1: you co host with Kyle Allen, who is now a 1276 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,680 Speaker 1: member of the Bills. And we know that Kyle and 1277 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,880 Speaker 1: Josh have been friends since they came out in the 1278 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,600 Speaker 1: same draft class in twenty eighteen. Guys that have been 1279 01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 1: tight for a while. So this new episode you guys 1280 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 1: are gonna have job. You guys are gonna have josh On, 1281 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 1: is it up already? I mean, is it out there 1282 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,080 Speaker 1: for everybody to listen to at this point in time 1283 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 1: and maybe just shed a little bit of light on 1284 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 1: some of the grounds you guys cover. 1285 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,080 Speaker 8: Yeah. So the concept of the show we started it 1286 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 8: last year called the QB Room. And what we realize 1287 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,680 Speaker 8: is in media, and I've done stuff with the ESPN 1288 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 8: and Fox and NFL Network, is if you don't have 1289 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 8: your conversation centered around the quarterback. I'm sure you guys 1290 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 8: are guilty of this as well. If you don't have 1291 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,240 Speaker 8: the conversation centered around the quarterback, you don't have a show, right, 1292 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,400 Speaker 8: You can't build a successful show talking about defensive backs 1293 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 8: or offensive line play. And so between Kyle being one 1294 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:07,480 Speaker 8: of the cool if you guys have spent time with Kyle, 1295 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,680 Speaker 8: Kyle's is like one of the coolest guys in the room, 1296 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,840 Speaker 8: any room, right, And I've known Kyle since he was 1297 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 8: a sophomore in high school. He's like a little brother 1298 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 8: slash best best friend slash client. And what we realize 1299 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 8: is that there's just a void where none of the 1300 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 8: big time guys actually go on other people's podcasts and 1301 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 8: every every media obligation is used with the word obligation. 1302 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,240 Speaker 8: But we feel like the most fascinating conversations are in 1303 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,360 Speaker 8: the quarterback room, you know, in the actual QB room 1304 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 8: where guys are sitting around hanging out talking. These are 1305 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,000 Speaker 8: these are people who have more context for everything that's 1306 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:45,000 Speaker 8: happening than the people around and quarterbacks are just privy 1307 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,960 Speaker 8: to more info and more of what's happening. And so 1308 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 8: it's fascinating conversations. And so we started it last year 1309 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,240 Speaker 8: and we asked a lot of guys to come on 1310 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,200 Speaker 8: and everybody said yes. And then we form a partnership 1311 01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 8: with with a big podcast network called Shots and Happy 1312 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 8: Dad and and and so we just launched the episode. 1313 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,720 Speaker 8: One was with Caleb Williams. Josh's episode came out this morning, 1314 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,720 Speaker 8: so you can go check that out. The room QB Room, 1315 01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,880 Speaker 8: Kyle and Jordan, and then we've got basically the biggest 1316 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,680 Speaker 8: names in quarterback are all signed on for the rest 1317 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 8: of the year, So all the biggest names in college 1318 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 8: and pro are going to be guest week after week. 1319 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 8: We're recording with Jerry Goff in about an hour and 1320 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 8: that episode will drop the night before the Lions take 1321 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 8: on the Chiefs to kick off the season. So what 1322 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 8: we put together is a really cool concept where we 1323 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:35,480 Speaker 8: dive deep, and we did it last year. We launched 1324 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 8: Josh's episode right before the Rams game, and I think 1325 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,520 Speaker 8: everyone who's a Bills fan and there's a lot of you, 1326 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 8: you guys all love Josh. I love Josh, but you're 1327 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 8: gonna get a chance to see him talk to two 1328 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 8: of his best friends in a very candid and open way. 1329 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 8: We don't talk a ton about specifics on football. We 1330 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,640 Speaker 8: talk more golf, talk more lifestyle, a little bit about 1331 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 8: Josh's house that he just built and some of the 1332 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 8: goodies there. And it's it's more or of a candid, open, 1333 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,800 Speaker 8: honest conversation that's uh kind of just laugh for an. 1334 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,120 Speaker 2: Hour and a half. So you've got these guys, and 1335 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,440 Speaker 2: you know, you've got a Kyle and Josh in a 1336 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:12,960 Speaker 2: room and in the conversation has to be wide ranging 1337 01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:19,160 Speaker 2: because of their friendship and their comfort level. Is this 1338 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 2: something I can have my like twelve year old listen 1339 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 2: to or should I like wait until they're. 1340 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,760 Speaker 8: Absolutely I think Kyle might have some choice words in 1341 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,080 Speaker 8: there every now and then, But no, absolutely, this is uh, yeah, 1342 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 8: we're covering in a lot. You know, Josh's life has 1343 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 8: changed a lot the last few years, and even this 1344 01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,680 Speaker 8: offseason with the you know, now putting himself in a 1345 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,120 Speaker 8: position where like you've got actual paparazzi. And so we 1346 01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 8: cover a lot of the topics that I'm sure more about. 1347 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,600 Speaker 8: And uh and you know, Kyle and Josh and I 1348 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 8: we all live in California. We all live within a 1349 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,599 Speaker 8: mile of each other, hang out all the time in uh. 1350 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,560 Speaker 8: I mean, my kids, you know, swim with Josh. So 1351 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,840 Speaker 8: it's just around a lot and and Kyle as well. 1352 01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 8: And so yeah, I think it's a more candid conversation 1353 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 8: and you're probably gonna see her or you're gonna get 1354 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,439 Speaker 8: on on one goes live. 1355 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:07,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1356 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 1: I haven't been to Josh's house, nor do I anticipate being, 1357 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,840 Speaker 1: but I would bet like a million dollars that there's 1358 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,120 Speaker 1: a golf simulator in there. 1359 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,040 Speaker 8: Well there is, Yeah, we uh and I've got one 1360 01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 8: of my office here too. We're we're we're all investors 1361 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,040 Speaker 8: in the same fun called arcs three and uh and 1362 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,680 Speaker 8: ARC three as and investor in full swing golf, and 1363 01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,080 Speaker 8: full swing golf makes the best simulators, and so yeah, 1364 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 8: there's a there's a reason that last year at the 1365 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:41,040 Speaker 8: AT and T Deal at Pebble Beach, Aaron Rodgers and 1366 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,599 Speaker 8: Josh Allen both played in it. Yeah, there's a reason 1367 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:47,240 Speaker 8: that Josh played really well and Aaron won it. They 1368 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 8: both have full swing simulators in their house. So if 1369 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:50,720 Speaker 8: you think about during the season, you know, you never 1370 01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:52,320 Speaker 8: touch a golf club, but if you've got a simulator 1371 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,000 Speaker 8: in your basement, I mean, that's the equivalent of watching 1372 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,400 Speaker 8: a movie or playing video games for an hour, sitting 1373 01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,120 Speaker 8: there grabbing eight iron and just a release, you know 1374 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,920 Speaker 8: what I mean, and you just you're outside distraction. You're 1375 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:06,000 Speaker 8: just going to doing something else. So yeah, he's gotta 1376 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:07,559 Speaker 8: think he's gotta get set up down there. 1377 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,679 Speaker 1: What what about the dynamic between Kyle and Josh. Obviously 1378 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,400 Speaker 1: they've been close friends for a while, but now they're 1379 01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:18,519 Speaker 1: teammates on the same team. I'm not indicating that it's 1380 01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,679 Speaker 1: going to change their friendship in any way, shape or form, 1381 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,240 Speaker 1: but I wonder if it changes the dynamic in any way, 1382 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,920 Speaker 1: shape or form. Obviously it caters to having good, healthy 1383 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 1: conversation in the quarterback room and you're getting ready for 1384 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,479 Speaker 1: an opponent. But I mean, I don't know, how do 1385 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,640 Speaker 1: you see that playing in an advantageous way for the 1386 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 1: Bills in terms of getting ready for the next opponent. 1387 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:42,160 Speaker 1: You know, having that tight knit, close relationship, I would 1388 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,240 Speaker 1: have to imagine it's it's a plus because they're not 1389 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,439 Speaker 1: afraid to be candid and upfront and completely honest with 1390 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:48,880 Speaker 1: each other. 1391 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,880 Speaker 8: Well, it's honestly, it's really we've talked about this. It's 1392 01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,120 Speaker 8: pretty similar to when I back up my back up 1393 01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:00,320 Speaker 8: my brother for four years in Cincinnati, and there's things 1394 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,360 Speaker 8: that I will say to my brother that JT. O. 1395 01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:09,439 Speaker 8: Sullivan or Ryan Fitzpatrick or Doug Johnson or that they're 1396 01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,160 Speaker 8: just not going to be comfortable saying other people who 1397 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,960 Speaker 8: backed him up. When you have that relationship, you can 1398 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 8: say what needs to be said because there's no there's 1399 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,040 Speaker 8: no concern with how it's going to affect our relationship. 1400 01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:26,240 Speaker 8: And that's if things need to be said. But I 1401 01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,639 Speaker 8: think that the thing that I'm sure Brandon Bean saw 1402 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,240 Speaker 8: going through this process and they've learned the last few 1403 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,400 Speaker 8: months been around Kyle's a brilliant young football mind. I've 1404 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,720 Speaker 8: been around Scott a long time. This is this is 1405 01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,160 Speaker 8: his one, two, three, fourth team, So that's a lot 1406 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,880 Speaker 8: of different ways of doing it. He's played with some 1407 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 8: great players and he's played with Alex Smith, He's played 1408 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,160 Speaker 8: with Ryan Fitzpatrick, He's played with Cam Newton, He's played 1409 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 8: so he's been around a lot of these guys, but 1410 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:50,960 Speaker 8: he's also been around me, and I would say this 1411 01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,760 Speaker 8: is one of the smarter young football minds that I've 1412 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,160 Speaker 8: been around in terms of protections and understanding things. So, 1413 01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,120 Speaker 8: you know, the Bill is a very complicated offense to learn. 1414 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,479 Speaker 8: Kyle picked it up really quickly. But I think Kyle's 1415 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,040 Speaker 8: you know, and Josh has had this in the past 1416 01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,600 Speaker 8: with some great backups going all the way back to 1417 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 8: Derek Anderson. Matt Barkley, I think has played a big 1418 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,840 Speaker 8: role with him, you know, case and these different guys 1419 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,960 Speaker 8: that you've had. But I think Kyle's going to be 1420 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 8: a best case scenario as a backup because he's got 1421 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,560 Speaker 8: a lot of starts, he's played well in tough situations 1422 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,479 Speaker 8: and uh and yet he's going to be able to 1423 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 8: be a candidate and honest with somebody that he loves 1424 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,240 Speaker 8: and respects. And the other thing too is sometimes you 1425 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,640 Speaker 8: get a backup who really wants to play, right, You 1426 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,160 Speaker 8: don't want the other guy to get hurt, but you 1427 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,640 Speaker 8: really want to play. This is more like when I 1428 01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:36,120 Speaker 8: backed up my brother, I didn't. Yeah, I would have 1429 01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,000 Speaker 8: loved to play, but I the last thing I would 1430 01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:39,639 Speaker 8: want is my brother to get hurt or something bad 1431 01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,200 Speaker 8: to happen. You have a similar dynamic here because you know, 1432 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,240 Speaker 8: Kyle's also just a huge fan of his buddy. And 1433 01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:47,240 Speaker 8: I mean, think, look at this, and I don't know 1434 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:51,840 Speaker 8: if anybody knows this. So Kyle his what what was 1435 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,120 Speaker 8: Josh's year he went to the playoffs? Second year? Yeah, 1436 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 8: Kyle was had just started a bunch of games that 1437 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,920 Speaker 8: year and care I think he started ten games or something. 1438 01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,840 Speaker 8: And their season ended and he got on a plane 1439 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,920 Speaker 8: and him and his girlfriend at the time fiance now, 1440 01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,320 Speaker 8: they flew to Houston and sat in the stands and 1441 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,800 Speaker 8: watched Josh's first playoff game. And Kyle goes, I'm not 1442 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,080 Speaker 8: missing Josh's first playoff game. He bought a ticket and 1443 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,599 Speaker 8: sat in the stands and watched his buddy play two 1444 01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:21,040 Speaker 8: days after exit interviews. So this is a really cool 1445 01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 8: bond where somebody really wants, you know, Josh's success is 1446 01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,760 Speaker 8: absolutely in the best interest of Kyle, And that's the 1447 01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,720 Speaker 8: dynamic that you want. And I think it's going to 1448 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,880 Speaker 8: play out really, really well because as tough moments happened 1449 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,880 Speaker 8: and hard situations happen, you've got a smart, capable backup who, 1450 01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:41,040 Speaker 8: by the way, if he goes in, he's gonna play 1451 01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:45,280 Speaker 8: really well, who can be honest and give really good information. 1452 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,840 Speaker 8: So I'm really excited for Kyle, I'm really excited for Josh, 1453 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:49,639 Speaker 8: and I'm excited for the Bills. 1454 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more than just having a buddy in the room. 1455 01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,040 Speaker 2: And I made this point on the broadcast during the preseason. 1456 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,960 Speaker 2: Also on this show a lot and people play gets 1457 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,200 Speaker 2: hired of hearing it. But the whole quarterback room isn't 1458 01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,920 Speaker 2: set up for Kyle Allen to be ready to play. 1459 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,680 Speaker 2: For Kyle Allen and Matt Barkley and the guys to 1460 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,080 Speaker 2: get Josh ready to play. And that's kind of way 1461 01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,040 Speaker 2: the way the room is set up. And having a 1462 01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,479 Speaker 2: guy like Kyle, it's about his relationship with Josh and 1463 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,080 Speaker 2: being able to say hard things to Josh in moments 1464 01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,680 Speaker 2: when it's needed and knowing when those moments are right. 1465 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:24,600 Speaker 8: Yeah. Absolutely, And it's not like it's not hey, you 1466 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,799 Speaker 8: need to work harder, you need to make better decisions. 1467 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:31,760 Speaker 8: It's not reprimanding. It's you know, when somebody doesn't see 1468 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,400 Speaker 8: something the first time, and then that second time it happens. 1469 01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,000 Speaker 8: It's the ability to come in and go, hey, that's 1470 01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:37,519 Speaker 8: twice you haven't seen that. Man, we got to get 1471 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,720 Speaker 8: rise of it. It's just the little tiny things that 1472 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,080 Speaker 8: that I think have played out when you look at 1473 01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,760 Speaker 8: these great dynamics. You know, Patrick Mahomes has had a 1474 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,280 Speaker 8: great backup in Chad Henney. I played with Chad. That's 1475 01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,840 Speaker 8: a similar rapport there. And I can look around the 1476 01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,439 Speaker 8: league and look at some you know, the starter isn't 1477 01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,439 Speaker 8: a great situation, but the backup is actually a value 1478 01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:00,280 Speaker 8: add and somebody who can contribute in the relationship that 1479 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,880 Speaker 8: they have. And so I think that's what the Bills 1480 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,479 Speaker 8: have here, and I think they've had in the past too, 1481 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,519 Speaker 8: but it's a little different dynamic just how close they are. 1482 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 1: Jordan, thanks for the time. Is always good luck with 1483 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:13,840 Speaker 1: your flag football game. QB Room podcast with Kyle and 1484 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,639 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and I'm assuming Jordan. That can be found 1485 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,320 Speaker 1: on all podcast platforms. 1486 01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's on all platforms. Spotify, Apple Music and all that. 1487 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,360 Speaker 8: But watch the video on YouTube. I know that there's 1488 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,439 Speaker 8: been a lot of rumors about Josh's house and the 1489 01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,679 Speaker 8: golf course, the holes that he built at his house. Yeah, 1490 01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:33,800 Speaker 8: so I'm sure people have wondered and heard about that. 1491 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,799 Speaker 8: We're going to unpack just what is now called Buffalo National. 1492 01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,640 Speaker 1: Oh wow, all right, Jordan, thanks for the time. We 1493 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,840 Speaker 1: appreciate it. We'll be sure to check it out. Good 1494 01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,040 Speaker 1: luck with the flag football man. We'll catch up with 1495 01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:45,400 Speaker 1: you soon. 1496 01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 8: Thank you very much. 1497 01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 1: All right. That's Jordan Palmer, CEO of QB Summit. He's 1498 01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:56,120 Speaker 1: got a lengthy client list of NFL players and also 1499 01:15:56,280 --> 01:16:00,000 Speaker 1: co hosts the QB Room podcast with Bill's backup quarterback 1500 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,800 Speaker 1: Kyle Allen. I would imagine the taping for that podcast 1501 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,559 Speaker 1: now has it's got to be on zoom. I mean, 1502 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,240 Speaker 1: Kyle's here, Jordan's there, Oh yeah, yeah, you know that 1503 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,080 Speaker 1: whole thing. And then a guest is from the Tech 1504 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:14,960 Speaker 1: Parts unknown. 1505 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,439 Speaker 2: The technology is easy, you know. 1506 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,120 Speaker 1: So Josh Josh Allen is on the current episode, which 1507 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,160 Speaker 1: is up now, and then they have Jared Goff lined 1508 01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,360 Speaker 1: up for next week. So kind of helps when you're 1509 01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,720 Speaker 1: a quarterback. To get other quarterbacks. 1510 01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:29,960 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I mean. 1511 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,519 Speaker 1: That's right, and he and but he's been good to us, 1512 01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,439 Speaker 1: so happy to help him out the word out. 1513 01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:41,000 Speaker 2: He's he's got a like we said, he's got he's busy. 1514 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,120 Speaker 2: I mean, that guy's busy twelve months a year. And 1515 01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,880 Speaker 2: now he's he's got a family too. He's coaching their count. 1516 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:49,160 Speaker 1: My gosh, he's yeah, he's eyeball to he forget about 1517 01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:53,000 Speaker 1: next week, Immersed. We have to take a break here. 1518 01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,760 Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll have some comments coming your 1519 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,360 Speaker 1: way from Stefan Diggs who addressed the media after practice, 1520 01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,800 Speaker 1: and and the first time captain of the Buffalo Bills, 1521 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,120 Speaker 1: Gabe Davis, addressed the media after practice as well. Will 1522 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,439 Speaker 1: have comment from him on what it means to him 1523 01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,479 Speaker 1: to be a captain here on the Buffalo Bills. Both 1524 01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,360 Speaker 1: those guys coming your way next here on One Bill's 1525 01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:28,120 Speaker 1: Live Stay tuned. Another player that was on Buffalo's off 1526 01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:32,360 Speaker 1: season roster has found a home elsewhere. Darrington Evans, the 1527 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,960 Speaker 1: running back who had that thirty five yard touchdown run 1528 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,920 Speaker 1: against the Bears last week, obviously did not make the 1529 01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:41,439 Speaker 1: bills fifty three man roster or their practice squad. He 1530 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:46,200 Speaker 1: was signed to the Dolphins practice squad today, So Darrnton 1531 01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:51,519 Speaker 1: Evans finds a home elsewhere in the AFC East. We 1532 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,879 Speaker 1: told you before the break that one Stefan Diggs addressed 1533 01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,640 Speaker 1: the media after practice today is a captain for the 1534 01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:02,719 Speaker 1: third time in a Bill's uniform, and he was asked 1535 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,639 Speaker 1: about that among other things in advance of the season opener. 1536 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,280 Speaker 1: Here is Stefan Diggs. 1537 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,040 Speaker 4: He'm quoted gave Davis one of the captains. They obviously 1538 01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,200 Speaker 4: think a lot of his leadership role. What went into 1539 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,400 Speaker 4: you guys think is like he obviously got a lot 1540 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:17,439 Speaker 4: of votes to be captain. 1541 01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:21,120 Speaker 9: Well, I think just his consistency, especially since he's been 1542 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 9: here from a young guy on. I think also he's 1543 01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:26,840 Speaker 9: been in the weight room playing all the season. 1544 01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:27,320 Speaker 3: I'm saying he. 1545 01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:29,679 Speaker 9: Got something like a strength guy, strongest man or something 1546 01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,200 Speaker 9: like that two years running. So it's been disciplined over 1547 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,720 Speaker 9: over a course of time. That's like that doesn't waiver, 1548 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:36,479 Speaker 9: Like he's been the things at each and every day. 1549 01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,479 Speaker 9: He works extremely hard and he's he's one of those 1550 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:40,880 Speaker 9: guys what I'm saying, one of his guys he gets 1551 01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,120 Speaker 9: along with everybody, know what I'm saying people leaning on 1552 01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:44,760 Speaker 9: him at this point, let's kind of get to that 1553 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:46,960 Speaker 9: point where I'm saying he's a trusted player. So for me, 1554 01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:48,840 Speaker 9: I think, you know, when you're going in the room 1555 01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:50,559 Speaker 9: and you're voting, you don't know what people are right now. 1556 01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,200 Speaker 9: You're not asking what people are right now. It's really 1557 01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,559 Speaker 9: just off opinion of what you think of guys. So, uh, 1558 01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:55,920 Speaker 9: you know I had him written. 1559 01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:56,559 Speaker 3: Down, Steph. 1560 01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,760 Speaker 2: You're a captain. Game's a captain. What makes a good 1561 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,559 Speaker 2: captain's s It depends. 1562 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,960 Speaker 3: Everybody leads in different ways. This team is full of 1563 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:04,000 Speaker 3: different personalities. 1564 01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,120 Speaker 9: I feel like it just exemplify a guy that worked 1565 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,479 Speaker 9: hard and does everything right or at least it t 1566 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,840 Speaker 9: makes an attempted you know what I'm saying, and also 1567 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:12,920 Speaker 9: making plays Like it's hard to lead from the back 1568 01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:14,000 Speaker 9: when you making no plays. 1569 01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:15,880 Speaker 3: But for a guy like that, uh, I feel like 1570 01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:17,400 Speaker 3: he's trusted. 1571 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:17,720 Speaker 2: You know. 1572 01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,720 Speaker 3: That's like my little Brobbly put on for a long time. 1573 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,720 Speaker 3: So I'm proud of him. Number one and two. 1574 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,720 Speaker 9: It feels like it's that level of accountability, you. 1575 01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:24,120 Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. 1576 01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,200 Speaker 9: To have two receivers as a captain, I don't know 1577 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,160 Speaker 9: how often that happens, but it's it's a big deal. 1578 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,880 Speaker 3: What does it mean to you to be a captain again? Oh? Yeah, 1579 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:31,160 Speaker 3: h I ha. 1580 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,160 Speaker 9: I think somebody asked me is uh yesterday? I mean 1581 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,160 Speaker 9: for me, it means more now than it did when 1582 01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:37,960 Speaker 9: I was my first time ever being named the captain. 1583 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,760 Speaker 9: It's just, uh, the consistency of it, the respect from 1584 01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:42,760 Speaker 9: your peers. I know, the biggest thing for me is 1585 01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 9: always a earning respect for my teammates, earning respect for 1586 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,439 Speaker 9: my coaches. And uh, when you name the captain, it's 1587 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,400 Speaker 9: like a reassurance like damn you are. You might be 1588 01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,280 Speaker 9: halfway decent now what you do? You know what I'm saying, 1589 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:52,960 Speaker 9: not just professinate, but as far as like how you 1590 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,120 Speaker 9: represent yourself in who you are as a man with 1591 01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:55,599 Speaker 9: the team. 1592 01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,720 Speaker 3: With the season really to start, you talked about how 1593 01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 3: this team needs to get over the hump. I think 1594 01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:04,000 Speaker 3: we was talk without captains alway. Yeah, yeah, that's okay. 1595 01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,040 Speaker 3: Uh y, I think you talk Catherine. 1596 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:07,720 Speaker 10: You said to her, I believe if my life like 1597 01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,160 Speaker 10: there means more to you this year as being captain, 1598 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:11,400 Speaker 10: you elaborate. 1599 01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:12,600 Speaker 9: On that little Yeah, it's just I mean, you know, 1600 01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,280 Speaker 9: with everything that went on as far as like with 1601 01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,519 Speaker 9: the off season and you know everything going into this season, 1602 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:20,960 Speaker 9: it's just like kind of my gosh, sorry, got'm uh, 1603 01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,080 Speaker 9: but blocking out the noise. It's been one of those 1604 01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:24,479 Speaker 9: You've been one of those offseasons, like it's been a 1605 01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:24,960 Speaker 9: lot of chatter. 1606 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:25,400 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1607 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,760 Speaker 9: It kind of was an ongoing thing. But you block 1608 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,600 Speaker 9: out the noise, you focus on football, You focus on 1609 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 9: your team, and you focus on the guys around just 1610 01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,240 Speaker 9: what I'm saying. So for me, it it meant a lot. 1611 01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,559 Speaker 9: And saying not only I just keep working hard, keep 1612 01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,840 Speaker 9: putting my head down and you know, bring my lunch 1613 01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:39,559 Speaker 9: pell to work EA send every day and I'm giving 1614 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,200 Speaker 9: everything I got at the end of the day. 1615 01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:42,760 Speaker 2: Is that all the matters to you is what those 1616 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:43,920 Speaker 2: people in that locker room think. 1617 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, a hundred percent. Like to me, Like I mean, 1618 01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:47,519 Speaker 9: I I say this all the time. I don't take 1619 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,880 Speaker 9: things personal from people I don't know personally. And I 1620 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,680 Speaker 9: know those guys in their person you know what I'm saying. 1621 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,160 Speaker 9: You know their family, you know their kids, and you 1622 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,200 Speaker 9: spend so much time in a blessed with tears for 1623 01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,400 Speaker 9: my appreciation really goes for those. 1624 01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:58,400 Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying, They're like, damn, they're like 1625 01:20:58,439 --> 01:20:58,920 Speaker 10: your loved ones. 1626 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,200 Speaker 9: And how they look at you, howdy, I'm saying, they 1627 01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:02,640 Speaker 9: how they respect you, how they appreciate you. 1628 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,960 Speaker 1: Goes along the way, all right. Stefan Diggs, addressing his 1629 01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:10,280 Speaker 1: captaincy as well as that of his UH teammate in 1630 01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:13,840 Speaker 1: the wide receiver room, Gabe Davis, funny that when somebody 1631 01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,599 Speaker 1: tried to ask a question not on the subject of captains, 1632 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,680 Speaker 1: he paused and say, I thought that was the only 1633 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,799 Speaker 1: ground we were recovering. His look into our Buffalo Bills 1634 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,960 Speaker 1: dot Com camera was priceless for our MSG viewers that 1635 01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,760 Speaker 1: saw it. You benefited. But he had this smirk like 1636 01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,040 Speaker 1: I thought we went over this. Uh, that was pretty funny. 1637 01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good stuff. 1638 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,800 Speaker 1: We pivot now from Stefan Diggs too his wide receiver 1639 01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,000 Speaker 1: room teammate Gabe Davis, who was named a captain for 1640 01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,880 Speaker 1: the first time in his young career with the Bills. 1641 01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,639 Speaker 1: Here is Gabe on that subject, what does. 1642 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:48,679 Speaker 2: It mean this time captain? 1643 01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,800 Speaker 10: Does that feel like, oh, I mean it feels good 1644 01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,080 Speaker 10: to be a young guy on this team and have 1645 01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:55,680 Speaker 10: a lot of older guys look at me. In that 1646 01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:57,439 Speaker 10: way to be a captain and you know, to lead 1647 01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,160 Speaker 10: the players, well, Buffalo Bills is great. I mean, can 1648 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,240 Speaker 10: be you know, more happy, more honored to be a 1649 01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,160 Speaker 10: leader of you know, this group of guys. If we 1650 01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:06,680 Speaker 10: had the best group of guys in the NFL and 1651 01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:07,840 Speaker 10: excited for the season. 1652 01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:09,679 Speaker 3: Does anything change for you now that you're a captain? 1653 01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,040 Speaker 10: No, nothing changed. I feel like you know the standard 1654 01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:16,080 Speaker 10: the standard is around here. Even you know a guy, 1655 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,040 Speaker 10: we we gotta be able to hold the best guy 1656 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,400 Speaker 10: to the same standards we hold the lowest guy. So 1657 01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:21,880 Speaker 10: that's that's the mindset. 1658 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,680 Speaker 8: As somebody who has you know, had different captains over 1659 01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:25,519 Speaker 8: your time here, What are the best captains do and 1660 01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:27,280 Speaker 8: how are you gonna try and implement that into what 1661 01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:27,680 Speaker 8: you do. 1662 01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,360 Speaker 10: I feel like you're just passing what you preach, leading 1663 01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,360 Speaker 10: by example, being vocal when you need to be matter 1664 01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,479 Speaker 10: of fact. We have the great the best guys on 1665 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:37,920 Speaker 10: the team to be able to do that. How have 1666 01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:41,040 Speaker 10: you grown in feeling comfortable being more of a leader 1667 01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,320 Speaker 10: on this team from being a rookie to now, yeah, 1668 01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,680 Speaker 10: I mean it's my fourth year. I've been able to 1669 01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:47,760 Speaker 10: go out there and make plays with an opportunity came. 1670 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,479 Speaker 10: So whenever you can sit there and be a guy 1671 01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:52,360 Speaker 10: that guys can depend on, you know, you know, you 1672 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,439 Speaker 10: get a little bit more confident than it comes around 1673 01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,320 Speaker 10: being around you know, guys that you even look up to. 1674 01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,960 Speaker 8: Me. Emials today talked about your work athlet Do you 1675 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:00,880 Speaker 8: think that's what's your team makes notice too? 1676 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,559 Speaker 3: Is the work that you put into your craft. Yeah. 1677 01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,080 Speaker 10: I feel like guys can trust me when it comes 1678 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,000 Speaker 10: to the hard times, you know, with my hardest and 1679 01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,000 Speaker 10: I feel like I've shown that over the years being here, 1680 01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,519 Speaker 10: that in Buffalo, So I feel like that's that's a 1681 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,240 Speaker 10: big thing by me. I try to lead by example 1682 01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,479 Speaker 10: and showing me that when times get tough, that's when 1683 01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:18,280 Speaker 10: I'll you know, push. 1684 01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:21,160 Speaker 3: My arts can Did you expect to be a captain? 1685 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:22,320 Speaker 5: Uh? 1686 01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,400 Speaker 10: It caught me off. It was a little surprising. I 1687 01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,560 Speaker 10: feel like even when when they were announcing on it, 1688 01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,479 Speaker 10: I was the I was the last one to be announced. 1689 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,760 Speaker 10: Everybody was kind of like a little bit more happy, 1690 01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,200 Speaker 10: a little bit more juiced up, just to know that, 1691 01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,320 Speaker 10: you know, because I'm a goofbat, I play around a lot. 1692 01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,280 Speaker 10: But I'm glad those guys again look at me as 1693 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:39,320 Speaker 10: a guy who can leave the team. 1694 01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,240 Speaker 1: You find out like what what was like? 1695 01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:44,600 Speaker 10: What was We sit all in the team room and 1696 01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,320 Speaker 10: then they just show pictures on the screen and everybody screams, 1697 01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,240 Speaker 10: just you know, everybody whenever they show them. And I 1698 01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,320 Speaker 10: was the last picture and I kind of stood up 1699 01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,040 Speaker 10: and gave a little wave because I was like I 1700 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:54,880 Speaker 10: was surprised as well, and a lot of the guys 1701 01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,360 Speaker 10: are you know, happy for me? And it was real 1702 01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,200 Speaker 10: fun Is it a headshot or is it like a 1703 01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:02,320 Speaker 10: goofy funny picture? It's like any some some of them 1704 01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:03,960 Speaker 10: are funny, some of them like pictures in the game. 1705 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,760 Speaker 10: This is whatever picture they mine. Was me flexing after 1706 01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,360 Speaker 10: the Denver preseason game and I was going a testdown. 1707 01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:11,840 Speaker 2: What was the reaction like in the room? 1708 01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,439 Speaker 10: Like again, I was like, I was like whoa. And 1709 01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,320 Speaker 10: I started clapping too, and I waved everybody. It was 1710 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,720 Speaker 10: just funny just to know that I'm gonna have a 1711 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,920 Speaker 10: C on my testimony again to you know, have myself 1712 01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,800 Speaker 10: be a leader of this team with you know, a 1713 01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:27,519 Speaker 10: lot of a lot of guys on this team were 1714 01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:29,200 Speaker 10: older and been playing in the league a long time. 1715 01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,519 Speaker 10: But again, me being you know, at the front of 1716 01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:32,400 Speaker 10: this is is awesome. 1717 01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,560 Speaker 3: You know, guys have seen the work you've put it 1718 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:36,120 Speaker 3: in your career and the work you continue to do. 1719 01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:36,840 Speaker 8: What does that mean to do? 1720 01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,120 Speaker 10: I mean it means a lot. I told I told 1721 01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:42,040 Speaker 10: those guys I was gonna win Lifted the year again, 1722 01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,000 Speaker 10: just my second year doing it, and again I just 1723 01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:44,920 Speaker 10: want to show the guys that they. 1724 01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:45,760 Speaker 4: Can know that I'm gonna worry. 1725 01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,720 Speaker 10: I'm gonna put the time in to be the. 1726 01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:48,519 Speaker 4: Player I need to be here. 1727 01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,640 Speaker 10: What'd your what did your mom say? My mom was 1728 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:53,640 Speaker 10: you know, she said it was descer for me. She 1729 01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:55,360 Speaker 10: knows she's seen the worst. I was nine years old. 1730 01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,360 Speaker 10: She knew this was a dream for me and to 1731 01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:58,880 Speaker 10: be a would live it. You know, don't take it 1732 01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,120 Speaker 10: for granted. You know, be that I'm living the life 1733 01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,400 Speaker 10: that I'm living, and always remember that what times you're tough? 1734 01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:05,120 Speaker 2: How'd you tell her? 1735 01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:05,640 Speaker 3: You call her? 1736 01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 8: Text was yeah, I caught her. 1737 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,720 Speaker 10: I called her and tech and told her and yeah, 1738 01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:11,400 Speaker 10: she she told me. They said everything, and then she 1739 01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,280 Speaker 10: sent me a little heartfelt text cause she kind of 1740 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:18,080 Speaker 10: was sit back thinking about it, probably by herself. And 1741 01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:20,880 Speaker 10: you know, my mom's everything to talk everything I need 1742 01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,040 Speaker 10: to know. So I was like, Mom, it's tough for 1743 01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,000 Speaker 10: players to get to the NFL, but imagine the ones 1744 01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:26,160 Speaker 10: I get to wear a sea on her chest. So 1745 01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,640 Speaker 10: I said, you know, be proud of you. This is 1746 01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,120 Speaker 10: the man you raised and I learned everything from you, 1747 01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:32,960 Speaker 10: and I'm happy that you know I can make you 1748 01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:34,160 Speaker 10: proud to do the things that I'm doing. 1749 01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,960 Speaker 3: You've said more than once, You've learned a lot from Diggs. Yeah, 1750 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:38,120 Speaker 3: and he's been a captain. 1751 01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,479 Speaker 4: For a couple of years, but yet he has his 1752 01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:41,280 Speaker 4: way of leading. 1753 01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,760 Speaker 1: Do you learn something from the way he's led or 1754 01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,479 Speaker 1: do you just lead the way you lead? 1755 01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:47,320 Speaker 10: I feel like we can all take a little bit 1756 01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:50,799 Speaker 10: from each other. Diggs is a big energy guy. Diggs 1757 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,760 Speaker 10: wants to compete. It's contagious around the locker room and 1758 01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:55,880 Speaker 10: contage us on this team. I mean that guy is 1759 01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:57,760 Speaker 10: a winner. Uh So, to be able to have that 1760 01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,120 Speaker 10: energy and that kind of tenacity that Digs had as 1761 01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,200 Speaker 10: something special gave. 1762 01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:08,639 Speaker 1: Davis seems genuinely appreciative of being bestowed dishonored by his teammates, 1763 01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,240 Speaker 1: like it's not a small thing. It's heartwarming for him. 1764 01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:11,479 Speaker 1: It is. 1765 01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,400 Speaker 2: It's not a small thing. Think about it. You know, 1766 01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:20,680 Speaker 2: it does also connotate an established presence in the locker room. 1767 01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:23,320 Speaker 2: You know, young guys usually don't get that. Yeah, it's 1768 01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:27,960 Speaker 2: clear he did not expect it, right, and it's I 1769 01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,840 Speaker 2: think it is a vote of confidence and something that 1770 01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:33,720 Speaker 2: legitimizes your own opinion about your own career, you know, 1771 01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:35,880 Speaker 2: because you're feeling you come in here you never really know, 1772 01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,679 Speaker 2: like when you're not a young guy anymore. Getting voted 1773 01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:41,879 Speaker 2: a team captain certainly puts you in a different category. 1774 01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:46,120 Speaker 2: That's it's pretty cool. It's not like being a hockey captain, right, 1775 01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,439 Speaker 2: that's a little that's a little more exclusive more. Yeah, 1776 01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,479 Speaker 2: this is something that just says, you know, the level 1777 01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,840 Speaker 2: of respect you have around the locker room. And and 1778 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,080 Speaker 2: that's really what every guy really strives for, with the 1779 01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:58,920 Speaker 2: respect of his teammates and peers. 1780 01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,920 Speaker 1: So congrastgats Davis, first time captain for the Bills. We 1781 01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:03,560 Speaker 1: will take a break here. Steven ought to close it 1782 01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,640 Speaker 1: up next on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, 1783 01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:23,840 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on One 1784 01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,639 Speaker 1: Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve tasper with you as always 1785 01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:31,120 Speaker 1: and wanted to mention that our podcast, which is moving 1786 01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:34,799 Speaker 1: to the weekly schedule here during the regular season. Bills 1787 01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:38,080 Speaker 1: Buy the Numbers. The latest edition is out kind of 1788 01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,840 Speaker 1: take more of a statistical angle on the Bills and 1789 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,880 Speaker 1: everything surrounding the team, So be sure to check that out. 1790 01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,240 Speaker 1: That episode has dropped. You can find it on any 1791 01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:49,040 Speaker 1: of your podcast platforms. Bills Buy the Numbers. Just type 1792 01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:52,920 Speaker 1: that into your search window there and it'll pop right 1793 01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:54,880 Speaker 1: up and Steve and I will tell you everything you 1794 01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:58,000 Speaker 1: need to know in a manner speaking. And we also 1795 01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:59,840 Speaker 1: have a very entertaining part of that show called The 1796 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,559 Speaker 1: Numbers Game, where I quiz Steve on a certain number 1797 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:06,679 Speaker 1: of topics and challenge his brain. And the rollodecks flipping 1798 01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:10,200 Speaker 1: through is pretty entertaining, to say the least. So check 1799 01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,120 Speaker 1: that out, Bills By the Numbers when you get a chance. 1800 01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:16,160 Speaker 1: Big show tomorrow, Steve. The players might be off, they 1801 01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,639 Speaker 1: don't have practice. They are off tomorrow. They're actually off 1802 01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,439 Speaker 1: for the entire weekend, so they get a nice labor 1803 01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:25,600 Speaker 1: day weekend before coming back to work on Monday. But 1804 01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:30,519 Speaker 1: tomorrow we have Eric Coleman, former safety of the Jets. 1805 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:32,160 Speaker 1: He's got his own show, but he's got his ear 1806 01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:33,640 Speaker 1: to the ground on the Jets, So we'll get an 1807 01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,439 Speaker 1: early preview look at the New York Jets for the 1808 01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,519 Speaker 1: week one matchup the Titanic matchup on Monday Night Football 1809 01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:43,360 Speaker 1: to start the season. And then Steve the wing King 1810 01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,800 Speaker 1: Drew is going to be a studio because, as we know, 1811 01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,120 Speaker 1: it's Wingfest this coming weekend, as it is every Labor 1812 01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:54,160 Speaker 1: Day weekend. Wings all over the place here. Tomorrow he 1813 01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,280 Speaker 1: better brings some. He didn't bring some the last time. 1814 01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:57,599 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get some wings in here. 1815 01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:59,360 Speaker 2: What are you gonna do, man, You can't live their 1816 01:28:59,400 --> 01:28:59,960 Speaker 2: lives for him. 1817 01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,719 Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow on the show at one pm.