WEBVTT - Nick Wright Mailbag: GOAT of GOATs debate, could LeBron James run for president? 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:05.600 Welcome in What's Righting Nick Wright? Episode four eighty three. 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:08.000 This episode of What's Right with Nick Wright is presented 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:12.280 to you by boost Mobile. This is our mail bag 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:15.200 episode and you can send long listen, you can put 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:18.480 questions in the chat, you can reply to us on 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.880 Twitter with questions, and if you want to send long questions, 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:26.680 you can email us What's Right Mailbag at gmail dot com. 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.040 Again a reminder to you guys, We're gonna have a 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.720 couple quick, very quick episodes next week where we try 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:35.239 to hit on all thirty two NFL teams, just kind 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:40.520 of one minute of team quick stories. As next week 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.280 I'll be on vacation. But that way something actually shows 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:45.640 up in your guys feed, the way you don't miss 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:48.920 it is to subscribe to the pods. So we have 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:52.280 some very long and thoughtful emails that I've been waiting 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:56.280 to get to, and we also have some quick hitter ones. 0:00:56.640 --> 0:01:00.000 And I'm just going to start with this from Daryl 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:05.640 Darryl Wrights. These first few are in response to our 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.760 Goat of Goats segment on TV where I talked about 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:13.480 how if MESSI, if Argentina were to win the World 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:17.280 Cup again and be the first team to go back 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.479 to back in more than sixty years, and Messi were 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.160 to have all of the records and career that he has, 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:24.720 that he would have. You know, an argument that of 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.360 all the goats, he is the goatist, the goat of 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.640 the goats, Daryl Wrights. Messi cannot be considered the goat 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:37.319 of all sports as he plays no defense. Yesterday versus Spain, 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.920 the dude stood at midfield ververs seventys from the match. 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.320 He's literally the James Harden of soccer. Darryl. I say 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:45.440 this with no due respect. It's one of the worst 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:51.000 opinions I've ever heard. The comp is not for Messi 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.880 James Harden and being like, why doesn't he get criticized 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:59.360 for not playing defense? The comp would be Brandy Moss, Like, 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.360 how many is Randy Moss broken up? It's not his position. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:09.200 I understand that in soccer everyone's on the field at 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:13.040 the same time, but different guys have different roles. It 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:17.800 is that is no different than one arguing how good 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.480 was Roder in this World Cup? Look at how few 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:26.919 goals he scored? You? Or maybe a better example would 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:33.760 be a killing a goalkeeper for not adding more to 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:38.840 the offense. It. Messi's a right winger. His job is 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:42.800 to be the engine of the offense. So unlike I 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.000 understand you say, oh, James Harden's job is being the 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:46.760 engine in the offense. Yes, but in basketball you have 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:50.280 to guard your position. In soccer, you really don't if 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.360 you're a striker, if you're the position Messi plays, you 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:57.600 don't have defensive responsibilities. So that's just I think it's 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:02.639 just fundamentally misunderstanding the sport. Oh more, Goat of All 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:09.000 Goats conversations, r J and Tyler mentioned that I left 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:12.520 out Michael Phelps and that if I was gonna include 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:18.160 balt I was gonna include Phelps. I didn't forget Michael Phelps. 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:22.520 I intentionally left Michael Phelps out for two reasons. One 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:30.560 is my criteria for being in The Goat of All 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:37.400 Goats discussion was multifaceted. One of them was you have 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:41.240 to be the undisputed goat of your own sport, which 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:45.920 is why, sadly, I couldn't include Lebron in the discussion. 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:52.840 He's not the undisputed goat of professional basketball. That was 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.800 just as a for instance, no baseball player made the 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.520 discussion because I don't think there is an undisputed goat 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:10.240 amongst baseball player. Another qualifier was you got your goat 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:14.360 case was graded on a curve that was directly correlated 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:20.320 to how many people worldwide are playing your sport. It 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.799 really hurt Brady's goat of all goat case because American 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:32.239 football is really only played here. It really hurt Wayne 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:38.000 Gretzky's case because hockey is played by so many fewer 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:45.919 people than sports like basketball, soccer, track and field that Michaelton. 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:52.039 Swimming is obviously done by more people than hockey or 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:56.800 American football, but not nearly as many people. Like I 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:01.960 know it's gonna sound basic, but in world history, the vast, fast, vast, vast, 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.119 vast majority of people, at some point in their life 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:16.320 ran and Bolt's fastest guy to ever lived. The majority 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:20.120 of people in world history not only did the majority 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:23.720 of them not swim or not not only did the vast, fast, 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.479 vast majority of them not swim, the majority of them 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.039 never swim. And I don't even know what the numbers 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.760 are right now, Like, of the eight billion people seven 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.680 and a half billion people we have, how many of 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:37.039 them can actually swim? So that hurts? Phelps at least 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.320 a little bit. But the real thing that hurts Phelps, 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:43.719 in my opinion, is my own personal crusade that we 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:51.920 vastly overrate swimming Olympians because of their ability to stack 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:58.400 up medals in the same distance race just by doing 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:04.080 it in so many different disciplines. Like whenever I hear 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.560 greatest Olympian ever, and it was Spits, and then it 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.000 was Phelps, and the or its l deck. It's like, man, 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:13.200 do you not think do you honestly think that if 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:17.880 Bolt had five ways to win a gold medal running 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.919 one hundred meters, he wouldn't have won five golds in 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.440 one hundred meters at every Olympics. It's like, all right, 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.640 this one's a sprint, this one you run backwards, this 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:30.599 one's side saddle, this one's skipping. He's as fashioned than everybody. 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.640 And so I've always felt that swimmers get a little, 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.120 a little extra oomph that I don't think is fair. 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:46.440 Robert on the Goat of All Goats discussion rights, big 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.440 fan of yours, and first things first, this week you 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.680 talked about goat of all goats. Unless I miss that, 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.880 I feel like there's an obvious one in John Jones 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.120 he'd be my pick. I feel like it's a perfect 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:59.160 fit as MMA's worldwide's based off pure talent. So this 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:02.880 is where I'm just going to, I guess admit my 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:09.840 own knowledge gaps I and so people might say I'm 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:14.600 way wrong on this. I always thought John Jones was 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:19.000 considered the most talented fighter ever. But not only is 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:23.679 he not undisputed as the greatest fighter of all time, 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.760 but I don't even think the majority of people consider 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.200 him that. And that might be his own demons, it 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:34.080 might be his own issues. The Daniel says, he's pretty 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.200 much he's pretty much the goat. Okay, So like I said, 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:39.960 I might have my own So this is where my 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:43.640 own knowledge gaps on the sport mix in. So maybe 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:51.040 I should have included it. I just didn't feel as 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:55.520 comfortable in the history of that sport. Now fighting does 0:07:55.640 --> 0:08:00.440 have get the huge bump that track and field, which 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.200 is people are doing it from the beginning of time. 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.840 Almost everyone in the world can do it to a degree, 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:11.440 so that helps. That would help his case a ton. Boxing's, 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.640 you know, one of the oldest sports, but there is 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:17.400 no undisputed goat. So that's why, like Ali or whomever. 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.600 Because that one. There's big disagreements on who the goat is, 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:25.960 but maybe John Jones was a miss by me. All right, 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:31.080 Rob writes in Nick really enjoyed the Messy retrospective on 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:33.079 the Thursday Pod. What do you think you're most like 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.040 to see in your lifetime? A soccer player you regard 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:39.559 as better than MESSI, A basketball player you consider better 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:43.600 than he wrote Jordan, but he met Lebron, A hockey 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:47.360 player better than Gretzky, a football player better than Brady, 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.199 or a baseball player better than Otana. You can answer 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.680 however you like. There's a good July August question. Thanks 0:08:52.720 --> 0:09:02.920 love the show. I think the most mol likely is 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:09.120 a football player better than Brady, and the second most 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:13.600 likely is a basketball player better than Lebron. Doesn't mean 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.280 you do I have a bet longer career, But it 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:21.760 feels like those sports and again this is where I 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:27.360 might my hockey knowledge really hurts me here. But it 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.439 feels like those sports are just evolving. It's such a 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:34.600 fast pace that if I'm lucky enough to be around 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:39.439 for another fifty years, do I think it's likely that 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:44.720 in fifty years, I mean, in fifty years, the odds 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:49.160 are all these guys gets get passed, but Messi has 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:53.560 really separated himself from the field and there's no one 0:09:54.120 --> 0:10:01.000 that's like pacing to beat him. Mahomes Is. It's gonna 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:05.000 be a very, very very long road. But as far 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:09.800 as mile markers and accomplishments, mahomes is ahead of Brady's pace. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.960 Wimby had a chance had they won the title, to 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.080 be ahead of Lebron's pace, which makes you think that 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.000 in the next if it's not him, in the next 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:25.040 fifty or somebody does it. Otani's a tough one because 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.320 O'tani's doing. No one is trying to do what Otani's doing. 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.199 People did it one hundred years ago, no one did 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:35.600 it forever, and now he's doing it. So I think 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:40.480 that I think the most likely is Brady. If for 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:44.000 no other reason, then there's a guy. It's on the board. 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.480 It's on the board. Brady gets passed in ten years. 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.520 It is not on the board. 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Let me pause 0:13:57.840 --> 0:13:59.880 this real quick before I get to the rest of 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:07.360 the email. This take that I did that he's referencing 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:12.080 had a lot more resonance than I thought it would 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:17.800 at the time. The great Jim Gray, who at least 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.080 used to do a podcast with Tom Brady, talked to 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:26.640 me about this take. I don't want to reveal confidences here, 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:34.920 but an NBA superstar who I had no reason to 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.720 think liked me at all, and I would have thought 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:43.160 probably didn't like me even though we hadn't interacted, reached 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:47.880 out to me like two years after I gave did 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:53.520 this Tom Brady segment about how he saw it that 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:57.520 made him totally reconsider what he thought of me as 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.200 a broadcaster, and had been find my work ever since. 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:05.440 So that Tom Brady segment that Alec is referencing like 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.920 had more of an impact than I thought when I 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.840 was doing it in real time, So Alec now recaps 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.440 it for me. Back to his email, your argument was 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.120 one I've always thought was really interesting. You said that 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:22.640 Brady was in such rare territories the greatest football player ever, 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:27.000 that normal human standards didn't fully apply anymore. A normal 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.280 person might look at it and say he should have 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:33.000 retired and prioritized keeping his family together. But your point 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.160 was Brady was the only person who could answer a 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.600 question nobody else could, how far can the greatest quarterback 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:42.040 of all time actually push the limits of longevity and performance. 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.680 He wasn't just playing for another season. He was showing 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.240 what was possible. He was exploring the outer limits of 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.040 human performance in football, and because he was the only 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.960 person capable of doing that, there was almost a greater 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.120 purpose seeing how far it could go. You called it 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:59.400 an obligation to humanity. I believe that seems extreme, but 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.920 maybe I did call at that. I'm curious how you 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:05.240 think this philosophy applies to other goats. Lebron is about 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.800 to start his twenty fourth season. Why shouldn't he try 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.000 to get to fifty thousand career points if his body 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:13.480 allows it? Could Brady have played until forty five? Like 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:17.240 he said? Quick note, Brady played to forty six. Brady 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.560 have played to forty six? He asked? Could he maybe 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.520 have even played to fifty Messi's still playing an absurd 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:24.640 level at an age where most players are long retired. 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.280 If he wants to drive for another World Cup in 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.400 twenty thirty, why not? Tiger keeps coming back even though 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.400 he's not the same player, and people watch because we 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.600 want to see if there one more impossible moment left? 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:37.040 Serena came back after retirement. Could Phelps have kept swimming 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.040 at some point? Do these athletes become more than just athletes? 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.680 Are they the only people capable of showing us the 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.600 true limits of what's possible in their sport? It really 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.600 feels like they have a job that only they can do. 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:51.960 Do you think the Brady argument applies across the board? 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:55.320 To guys like Lebron Messi, Tiger Serena. Should these ones 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.800 in history athletes keep going until they physically can't anymore 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.720 because they are unique position to redefine the limits of 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.560 the human mind and body? Or do you think there's 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:06.800 a point where walking aways the right choice? Would love 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.320 to hear you discuss this all right. I'm super interested 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.560 in this, Alec because I don't think it just applies 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:17.320 to sports. And I think I told this story when 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.879 when I talked about Brady the first time. But one 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:28.960 of the reasons that Brady thing, you know, touched me 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:33.080 to a degree, was I think there are different levels 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:37.240 of all of us that are and I'm not trying 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.159 to put myself in the bucket of Tom Brady, but 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:44.760 just follow me here. Anyone that considers themselves elite at something, 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:52.960 or a high achiever, or someone with very lofty aspirations, 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:59.800 where assuming you have a family, assuming you have a 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:04.639 magnificant other children, where it starts to be a delicate 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:14.040 balance of what do I owe myself And we'll get 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.720 to the humanity piece of it a moment, but myself 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:21.600 in seeing how far I can actually push this thing 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:31.720 versus what do I owe my family, as far as time, attention, 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.800 all of it, and there's you know, a hunt. There's 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:40.199 a hundred accurate anecdotes of some of the most successful 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.880 people in the world as they're dying or in their 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.080 old age saying I wish I had spent more time 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.760 with my family, and you very rarely hear people say 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.480 I wish I had, you know, gotten to more meetings. 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.920 I wish I had, you know, run one more company. 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:01.520 Yet in real time it's very difficult for people to 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.240 make the decision that it seems like we all know 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.320 that at the end of our days we will wish 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:13.960 we had made because part of what makes someone able 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:18.360 to achieve at a very high level is a mentality 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:24.880 that makes them the evaporating finish line that there's always 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:34.080 something next to go accomplish. Then there is, so that's 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:38.240 your own personal what I want to see, what I 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:40.320 can do versus what I owe the people I love. 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:57.560 There is then extra levels to it, right, which is 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:04.040 in Brady's case, he had literally there was there was 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:07.119 nothing left to accomplish. You could just keep accomplishing it. Again, 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:17.439 the question of inspiring those you love, or, as the 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:24.080 Alec writes, quoting me, back to me. I guess inspiring 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:32.240 the world as a whole, and at some point for 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:44.840 certain people, does that obligation become greater than everyone's number 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:50.399 one in theory obligation, which is to their family. And 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:54.080 I think that that is There is no right way 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:55.240 to answer it, but I think it's one of the 0:20:55.320 --> 0:21:08.440 most fascinating questions there is. That is are there certain 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:12.720 certainly we all understand there are certain jobs that are 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:19.720 so important to the world that we expect the people 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:25.840 who undertake them to put the greater good ahead of 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:31.560 you know, themselves and their loved ones. Whether it's you're 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:37.199 talking about astronaut, you know, someone who is you know, 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.520 it's like I have to leave my family for three 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:44.920 years to go try to push humanity forward. Folks who 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:49.240 you know. There are certain things in the medical field 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:51.960 field I assume, where you put yourself at massive risk, 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:59.440 but you're trying to you know, save you know, uncountless lives. Obviously, 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:03.080 there are people people who put their life online in 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:06.000 the military, who think that they are you know who, 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:08.880 Their kids might grow without a father or a mother, 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.080 but it's for the greater good. We all, we all 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:17.960 understand those. Then there's the trickier ones, which is, you're 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:23.040 in the entertainment business like Tom Brady, you're in sports, 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:27.879 but you can just be the greatest in the history 0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:35.919 of the world at something. Can that ever trump your 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:41.680 responsibilities as a parent? Obviously, kids are always gonna be 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:44.960 taken care of. They're they're gonna have different benefits from 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:48.200 you being that person. But the benefits that they were 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:53.520 gonna have, those are you know, those stop increasing at 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:56.520 some point, like the wealth and the fame and the notoriety. 0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:59.320 At some point that's diminishing returns, and it's still just 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:04.720 less time with you. And so I think when I 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:07.040 did this four years ago, I'm in the similar spot 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:08.840 that I am now, which is I don't have the 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:12.680 right answer, but I don't think it's easy. I don't 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:15.080 think it's as simple as, oh my god, this guy, 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:18.280 what was he thinking he put his profession ahead of 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:22.040 his family. I think there was a bigger feeling of obligation, 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:23.920 and I think one of the and now this is 0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:27.560 again I'm mixing metaphors, but I think at one one 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:33.480 of the anecdotes I gave was my dad, my dad 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:36.479 who's still around and I adore him and is a 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:39.840 great man. My dad, as you guys have heard me 0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:43.080 talk about, we're in the Kansaity Fire Union for my 0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:45.840 entire childhood, like for I don't know better part of 0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:53.240 thirty years, and there were hundreds, maybe a thousand, I 0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:57.399 don't know, hundreds of people relying on him all the time. 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.920 Negotiate the best contract, get us the best benefits, get 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:02.960 us the best retirement, get us the best pension, all 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:10.399 these things. And again I had and have a great dad, 0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:23.200 but he unquestionably felt like like that was his calling 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:28.480 and that was his obligation to the world, almost more 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:37.000 so necessarily than go into all of our stuff. And 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.320 not only do I not like resent him for that, 0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:45.880 I get it entirely, I totally get it. And it's 0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:50.679 such an interesting thing because I see a lot of 0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:56.359 that in how I go about my work while also 0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.880 recognizing as I'm doing it, yeah, I'm probably gonna regret this. 0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:05.000 So it's a fascinating thing. I don't know if that 0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:08.199 was the answer to the question, but that is a 0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:17.160 very interesting topic for me. Brian from Zimbabwe writes in Hi, 0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:19.840 Nick Demonse and What's Right Team, big fan of the 0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:22.560 podcast and first things first too, so big fan so 0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:26.320 big of a fan that, even though I'm Zimbabwean and 0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:28.760 have very little interest in the NFL, I still tune 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:31.680 into both shows even when the topics are just football related. 0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:34.359 I'd love a shout out to Zimbabwe one of these days. 0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:36.399 You got it right now. Your show really does have 0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:40.199 a global audience. Thank you. My mailbag topic is is 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:43.040 there anything wrong with being a doubter? I think it's 0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.520 unfair to act like doubting a team or players some 0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:49.000 cardinal sin. Most times, in fact, doubt is the most 0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:53.440 logical stance, like sorry, I didn't immediately believe jokicher brunting 0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:56.639 could be number one options on championship winners when the 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.080 history of the sports says you're typical. Your best player 0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:01.679 typically needs to be he's good on defensive end or 0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:03.960 not be a small guard. I've seen a lot of 0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.720 comments from Knicks fans Nuggets fans. It's that are telling 0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:08.800 Nick stay on that side or clowning in for not 0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:12.840 immediately ranking their team's players high enough. Even though what 0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:16.000 we all presumably wants people want sports and sports pundits 0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:18.960 is for people to continually update their positions as more 0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:21.159 information comes in, which is something I've seen Nick do 0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:23.439 a lot. Yes, it's great if you're a true believer 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:25.399 from day one, but I think it's I don't think 0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:27.320 it's a crime to wait until the person has proven 0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:30.359 something before believing in them. All right, great email, Brian. 0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:33.639 So I'm going to hedge on this a bit, and 0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:36.240 I'm going to defend some of the people who attack 0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:43.440 me about Jokich. Not so much, Bronze. I do not 0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:49.240 think there is anything wrong with having the all believe 0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:52.880 it when I see it stance. If you do have 0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:56.000 that stance, you obviously don't get the same level of 0:26:56.080 --> 0:27:00.240 bragging rights as someone that says I knew it all along, 0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:03.720 I believed all along, you were late to the party. 0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:09.760 I think that is that's typically how this goes. I 0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:19.440 also think it is totally fair for if you were 0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:26.520 very vocal and very loud in your skepticism that when 0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:31.920 if you do finally come around, people are giving you 0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:35.600 a little shit for it. So that's me with Jokic. 0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:41.000 I was one of the biggest Jokic skeptics, and then 0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:44.000