1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Sports Radio to bring in Albert Breer, the senior NFL 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: reporter and lead content strategist for the Monday Morning Quarterback. 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Without Derrick Henry, what kind of team are the Tennessee Titans, 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, Like the last two weeks, like you said, Dan, 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: his production hasn't been what we've gotten used to it being, 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: and they found different ways to win. But I think, 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: you know as well as I do, like part of 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: the fact that they're able to produce no other areas 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: of the game is the fact that the defense is 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: game planning for Derek Henry and he changes everything for you. So, 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, he's one of the most important non quarterbacks, 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: maybe the most important important non quarterback to his team 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and the drop off from him to 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: Jeremy McNichols is going to be pretty big. So I mean, 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, you take them out of the equation, you know, 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: I think, now that's free game lead that they took 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: on the Colts yesterday with that win looks less insurmountable. 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: And now now as Ryan Tannehill's got to go earn 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: his paycheck, right and now this is you know, what 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: where a j Brown's got to make his money and 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: where the whole Julio Jones trade has to come in. Like, 23 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: it's just, you know, so many things that were built 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: around Derrick Henry have been built around Derrick Henry the 25 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: last two plus years, you know, and now you sort 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: of have to reconfigure who you are because I mean, 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: like Jeremy McNichols is a nice player, but the drop 28 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: off from Henry to McNichols, when you're talking about a 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: guy you can build your offense around as massive. The 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: Saints quarterbacking situation is interesting. Taysom Hill was in concussion protocol. 31 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon comes to the rescue Jamis Winston. I don't 32 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: know the severity of that, but I know he was 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: dancing on crutches after the win. But I don't know 34 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: if that's just Hey, I'm gonna have to have surgery here. 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: Do you know anything about Jamis Winston this morning? Yeah, Albert, Yeah, 36 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: I mean I know that they're bracing for the news 37 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: that you know, the confirms the celtare and that this 38 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: is gonna be it for the season for him, and 39 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be interesting seeing what they do 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: going forward. I like, I was just somebody there told 41 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: me last night, I just don't assume that it's automatically 42 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: going to be Taysom Hill, or that we're just gonna 43 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: go straight with Taysom Hill as the quarterback when he's 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: back off the concussion. And the point was raised to 45 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: me because you know, this guy was talking to said, 46 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: we don't really have like a massive amount of playmakers 47 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: versus where they had been in the past when they 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: had you know, Brandon Cooks and you know mart Marcus 49 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: Colston and Jimmy Graham, all those guys over the years. 50 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: They're not in that spot right now, especially with Michael 51 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: Thomas still not playing. And so you know, I know 52 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: that there was at least a thought where we'd be 53 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: better off with Trevor Simeon as the quarterback and then 54 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill and sort of a slash type of role 55 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: or a platoon. And normally you'd say, like, well, you know, 56 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: you don't want to be you know, having a quarter 57 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: a quarterback shuffle. Shuffle will never work in the NFL, 58 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: and you don't want to be messing with that because 59 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: it'll screw with the continuity or offense. But I mean, 60 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: if there's one coach who'd be willing to try it 61 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: and who'd be comfortable trying it, I mean, it's the 62 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: one down in New Orleans, right. I think it makes 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: the most sense that just like you said, they don't 64 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: have weapons, they have Alvin Kamara, and if I can 65 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: have Simeon as the quarterback and probably fits a little 66 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: bit more of what they're used to with Drew Brees, 67 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: and then I can have Taysom Hill and at least 68 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: I can interject him into the offense as well. And 69 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: I think with that defense, you know, just keep us, 70 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: keep us in the game, you know, that's all, yeah, 71 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: and keep it close and you know we can help 72 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: you win. But to me, that probably makes the most sense. 73 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: What's the game that you came away from going what 74 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: just happened? I would say, I mean the Saints game, 75 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: I think is it was interesting, but they swept them 76 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: last year in the regular season. And I think people 77 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: underrate the talent on the Saints. We get so fixated 78 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: on the quarterback, you know. I don't think people like 79 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: fully grasp how good the team around Drew Brees was 80 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: at the end of his career and how they were 81 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: sort of carrying him more than the other way around 82 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: at the end. You know, so now you can't see 83 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: Drew Brees coming back, right, I don't think so? Okay, 84 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers maybe, but like like I don't think, I 85 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: think you make your calls. If you're Sean Payton. Now 86 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: you call Brees, you call Rivers. You see what shape 87 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: those guys are in, because you still feel like you've 88 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: got a team capable of winning a championship. I mean, 89 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: this team has been knocking on the door for five 90 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: years now. You know, breezes are no breeze. That's still 91 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: a roster full of guys who are in the prime 92 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: of their career. So I think, you know, if you're 93 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, you don't just stand pat You turn over 94 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: every rock and see what you might be able to 95 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: find out there. Philip Rivers, I mean, shoot, do you 96 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: take a swing at to Shaun Watson? Now, well you 97 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: you will get him because you're a cap situation. But 98 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: they've always been able to solve that, you know what 99 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Like, they've always been able to find a way. 100 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: Do you take a while, because that's the other thing 101 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: that that franchise has been willing to move Draft picks 102 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: in the past for veteran players. They have not been 103 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: shy about doing that because they're so confident in their 104 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: ability to draft and develop. They don't they feel like 105 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: they don't need the surplus of picks the other teams do, 106 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: so they've been willing to give up picks in the past, um, 107 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, sort of like the Rams are. So, I mean, 108 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: if you're them, do you take a wild swing at 109 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson now? And I'm not I'm not suggesting 110 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: it's going to happen, but I think I think Sean 111 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: will turn over every rock, you know. And so whether 112 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: it's making a phone calling Watson or um, you know, 113 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: or calling Rivers and seeing hey, when your high school 114 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: season's over, would you want to come out Like I 115 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: just think you have to though, Dan, That's the thing 116 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: is because it's to me, it's like, just rattle off 117 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: the names on that roster. How many guys are right 118 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: in the heart of the prime of their careers. And 119 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: you know your cameras, youre Ryan Ramshecks here, Cam Jordan's 120 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: is on the back end. You know, marsh On Lattimore, 121 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: Marcus Williams, Damario Davis, like so many guys that are 122 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: right either in the heart of the prime of their careers, 123 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: are on the back nine, and you know, I just 124 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: feel like they've still got an opportunity to compete at 125 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: a really high level, and maybe this opens the door 126 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: for them to do something creative that they wouldn't have 127 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: thought of. Head Jami's not gone down. Talking to Albert Breer, 128 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: the senior NFL reporter lead strategist for The Monday Morning Quarterback, 129 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: you can read his column this morning. Cooper cup is 130 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: having one of the greatest seasons, the greatest start to 131 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: a season for a wide receiver in over fifty years. 132 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: Why is he not getting any credit? Because I think 133 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: most of the people who go through that offense don't 134 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: get credited. Goes to McVeigh. And whether or not that's 135 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: fair or not, I'm not you know, I don't know, 136 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: but you know, like I, you know, you look at 137 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: the scale position players who've gone through there, with the 138 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: exception of Girly, I think most of those guys have 139 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: been seen as sort of a creation of McVeigh. You know, 140 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: Robert Woods, I think the same way, and they clearly 141 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: valued both those guys. Both those guys are making sixteen 142 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars a year, so it's not like they 143 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: don't value them. But I do think there's maybe a 144 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: little bit of a perception out there that skill position 145 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: players who go through there are to some degree a production, 146 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: a product of the system. And that's why I think 147 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: people are so excited to see what Matthew Stafford looks 148 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: like in it, you know, because you had Jared Goffoy 149 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: was another guy who was seen as the product of 150 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: the system in the last few years. So what happens 151 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: when you put like a true, like franchise type talent 152 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: in there, you know, and we've seen the results. So 153 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: I think that's really it is that, you know, Cooper 154 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: Cups never played anywhere else, got wasn't a first round pick, 155 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, And I think part of you know, playing 156 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: there is so many people have had success, so many 157 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: skill position players have had success coming through that system, 158 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: that now every guy who does have that sort of success, 159 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: no matter how much they reward him or tell you 160 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: what the money, how much he means to them and 161 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: everything else, like everybody's sort of seen as a cog 162 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: in the machine. Cooper Cup is the first player in 163 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl era with it Lee mannis nine hundred 164 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: receiving yards ten touchdowns through his team's first eight games 165 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: of a season. Pretty pretty good stuff. Pretty good. Did 166 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: the Jets find their quarterback yesterday? It's weird, isn't it? 167 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: How Like they put him in and Josh Johnson went 168 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: in the middle of that game and he looked okay too, Like, 169 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: so I don't know if it like makes you raise 170 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: some questions about Zach Wilson and how ready he was 171 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: to play in the NFL, you know, because I think 172 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: there were some people that looked at that across the 173 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: NFL and said, is there like, like, has the staff 174 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: done enough? Was Zach Wilson? You know? And you have 175 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: a first time coordinator there, and they went through a 176 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: tragedy on their offensive staff over the summer, but they 177 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: the guy who was going to be like the most 178 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: experienced guy you know that on that staff lets on 179 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. And so I think 180 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people, you know, inside the 181 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: league that we're thinking, like, are they doing enough to 182 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: help Zach Wilson? And then you throw Mike White in there, 183 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: and my god, he looks competent, you know, And this 184 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: isn't just this week. He look competent when they throw 185 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: him in against the Patriots last week too, So yeah, 186 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's fair to ask some of 187 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: those questions. And I've heard some of those questions that 188 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: like Zach has a ways to go as far as 189 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: learning just how to run an NFL offense and how 190 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: to take house money, you know what I mean, like 191 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: not try to turn every play into a seventy yard touchdown. 192 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: And I think you're sort of seeing it now, and 193 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: maybe it's good for Zach Wilson to get to see 194 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: someone else running the offense. But yeah, I mean Mike 195 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: White makes I mean, you watch Mike White, It's like, 196 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: why did they trade for Joe Flaco? I was sort 197 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: of thinking that last week too, like like even after 198 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: the way he came in and like stabilize things against 199 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots when they were getting blown out, Like you 200 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: could see a little something there. And I think it 201 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: definitely carried over to this week where it's like, maybe 202 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: they shouldn't have on the draft pick away for Joe Flacco. 203 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: The Cowboys I thought made the right to decision even 204 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: if they had lost to the Vikings that you don't have, 205 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, Dak Prescott. I got to look for the 206 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: bigger picture here what happened last year, And you know, 207 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: you've got a team that can compete in the NFC. 208 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: And you know, Cooper Rush comes in and I didn't 209 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: miss him. But you know, I think the bigger question 210 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: I have is still about the Minnesota Vikings Albert because 211 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: if you have a good quarterback, you're in no man's land. 212 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: You need to have a great quarterback or it feels 213 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: like you start over. You've got Kirk Cousins is a 214 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: good quarterback, He's not great, not elite, but it feels 215 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: like they're just that's a team stuck in neutral. Yeah. 216 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: If I'm the I mean, I guess the analogy would be, 217 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: if you're the wealth right now, do you ask away 218 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: the forty five one NBA team, right? Like the team 219 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: that's like just good enough to never get the franchise player. Yeah, 220 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: you know that is just sort of stuck there and 221 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: you're going out in the first or second round every year. 222 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: You're spending your wheels and they have like talent in 223 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: the roster. I actually think like the front office has 224 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: done a good job of kind of replenishing the talent 225 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: there and bringing in younger guys. You look at the 226 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: way they've like kind of swapped out guys like Stefan 227 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: Diggs is out. Then you know, Justin Jefferson comes in 228 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: in the backfield, they lose Adrian Peterson, he gets older, 229 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook comes in. The way they've replaced some guys 230 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: on the offensive line, Derek sau has played pretty well 231 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: for them. You know, they've just sort of constantly been 232 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: able to, I guess, like replenish certain positions, And you wonder, 233 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: is that what's holding them back? Because the coaching what's 234 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: holding them back? Because you know, I love Mike Zimmer 235 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: as a coach, but they've sort of been in this spot, 236 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: like they've sort of been the same team since he 237 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: got there, right like up one year, down the next 238 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: that they sort of peeked out in two thousand and 239 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: seventeen with Ka's Kingdom as a quarterback and going to 240 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: the NFC title game. So yeah, I mean, I think 241 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: if they continue on this path and you were sitting 242 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: there at the end of the season and they're like 243 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: ten and seven or nine and eight and they either 244 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: just made the plays or they're chest out, like I 245 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: think it's fair to ask those questions, and look like 246 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: I think internally they've asked those questions too, because you know, 247 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: like Zimmer was sort of a sleeper name a couple 248 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: of years ago as a guy who could wind up 249 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: out and he survived and got an extension, and then 250 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: they kicked the tires really hard on Justin Fields and 251 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: the spring to the point where if I mean, that 252 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: was who the Bears were trying to get in front 253 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: of to get fields. And so maybe they don't trade 254 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: down and maybe they wind up with Justin Fields if 255 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: he slips a couple more spots. I think those questions 256 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: have been asked internally, and yeah, you wonder if like 257 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: that doesn't lead to some change after this year. Things 258 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: don't change if they don't wind up like thirteen and four, 259 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: twelve and five or whatever, like, are you are they 260 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: just sitting there spinning their wheels. I was really surprised 261 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: at this. You know, the Browns should have won that 262 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: game against the Steelers. I mean, you're hosting the Steelers, 263 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: you know you should still win those games. But Baker 264 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: Mayfield had this to say after the game about the media. 265 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: Within sports media world, it's going to be the world's 266 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: falling down where We're gonna handle it within the building 267 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: and make the corrections we need to to execute. We 268 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: have a good enough team. It's just that we're kicking 269 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: ourselves in the foot right now, stubbing our toes and 270 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: just build one week at a time. That's what I said. 271 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna chip away. There's no big picture mindset, and 272 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: we gotta chip away one week at a time, and 273 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: we'll do just that. Okay, for sure, you kick yourself 274 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: in the foot. I don't know unless it's one foot 275 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: kicks the other foot, but I think you shoot yourself 276 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: in the foot. But hey, yeah, uh, why why does 277 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: he care about the media? Like? Because he always has. 278 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: That's part of the hub. I mean, it's part of 279 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: it's part of what it's part of what like drives him. Right, 280 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,599 Speaker 1: wasn't this the guy he watched Oklahoma too? Like he 281 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: had rabbit ears, Like I mean, like, I don't care 282 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: if they needed my own water, but he like that's 283 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: what the flag was, right, That's the flag planning was 284 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: was having rabbit ears, right. Yeah yeah, but I mean 285 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: the media part of Browns. The media covers the Browns 286 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: far more than the Browns deserve. Yeah, I know what 287 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: you're saying, but like I don't like, yes, you're right, 288 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: because I think there's like that there's there's been that 289 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: circus element to it. Now it's like are they no 290 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: longer the circus? Because I think Kevin Stefanski and Andrew 291 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: Barry and those guys did an effective job of kind 292 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: of calming it down. I think I think there is 293 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: a fairic question asks he's starting to feel it though, 294 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: like I am now playing for my job, you know, 295 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: because he doesn't have a contract. And generally quarterbacks who 296 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: the first round quarterbacks historically, if you look at it, 297 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: the first round quarterbacks who go through three years and 298 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: then don't get a big extension like after that third 299 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: year just usually don't get that extension period. There. I 300 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: don't know there's one case where the team waited and 301 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: then after a year four Andrew luck is the one 302 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: case which is where it was like that was just 303 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: like wait a year and we'll do it, right. But 304 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: it's very rare that a team doesn't make that doesn't 305 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: just give the guy the extension after the third year. 306 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: So I'm sure he's feeling it a little b too, 307 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: and that now like a three and one start has 308 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: become four and four and if they don't win the playoffs, 309 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a pretty complete roster, right, So where 310 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: are they going to look to upgrade? And I think 311 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: the obvious thing would be, can we afford to have 312 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: this guy on our roster at forty to forty five 313 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: million dollars a year? That's a very real question, you know, 314 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: And so like, I think Baker probably feels it a 315 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: little bit, feels that pressure a little bit, and he 316 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: knows that everybody's looking at him and pointing at him 317 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: and saying is he good enough? And yeah, I mean, 318 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: I think it's a fair question to ask. And I 319 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: think you know, if you gave Andrew Barry truth serum, 320 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: he would tell you, like right now, like for the 321 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: rest of this year, it's Baker Mayfield versus Deshaun Watson. 322 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: It's Baker Mayfield versus Aaron Rodgers. It's Baker Mayfield versus 323 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. It's Baker Mayfield versus whoever might be out 324 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: there available for us in February and March, when we 325 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: have to make a decision on what we want to 326 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: do at the position going forward. I'll leave you with this, 327 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: These standalone games everybody has the opinion the day after 328 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: Kansas City tonight, how important is to win this game 329 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: and win with style points. I don't think it's you 330 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: know what's funny it is like people have said that 331 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: style points, like why doesn't it look the way it 332 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: used to? I think like, if you talk to enough 333 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: people in the league, you even talk to people in 334 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: that building, what they'll tell you is they don't need 335 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: the style points. They need to do the routine stuff better, right, Like, 336 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: so they've got this completely reworked offensive line and that's 337 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: been a problem, no question. Orlando Brown going right to 338 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: left hasn't worked out quite the way that they hoped 339 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: it would. And when your left tackle isn't right, that 340 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: can create problems elsewhere, you know, but really, like, how 341 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: do you manage that? Okay, well, you can manage that 342 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: by running the ball effectively. They're not calling enough front 343 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: plays like Clyde Edwards Hilary's hurt. I understand that, but 344 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: like that's one way to calm down the offensive line problem. 345 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: It's another way to calm down the offensive line problem 346 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: for Mahomes to take the easy money to check the 347 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: ball down, to throw the ball short. So he's not 348 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: holding it as long so it doesn't expose the issue. 349 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: He's not doing that, you know, is Mahomes playing too 350 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: much like he did at Texas Tech? Like, are we 351 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: seeing that guy who felt like he had to take 352 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: the team on his shoulders too much? And he's not 353 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: doing that, He's not doing the routine thing. And then 354 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: on defense, it's the two guys that you paid. It's 355 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: Frank Clark, and it's and it's and it's Chris Jones, 356 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: Like are those guys coming anywhere close to what they're 357 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: getting paid. They've been banged up, they've been averaged when 358 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: they've been out there, and not having those guys play 359 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: at the level that they play that the last couple 360 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: of years is exposed in ordinary back seven. So I 361 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: think a lot of this stuff is pretty simple. It's 362 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: on offense, can they make the routine play right like, 363 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: can they make the routine play? Can they go to 364 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: people other than Travis Kelsey or Tyreek Hill? And can 365 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: Mahomes play like a more conservative game? And then defensively, 366 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: I mean the offense playing more conservatively would help the defense, 367 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: right like, because now you're maybe shortening the game a 368 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: little bit, which isn't their comfort zone. But maybe what 369 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: you have to do here can you get your best 370 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: players on defense playing better. To me, it's like it's 371 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: two three four if you talk to people in that building, 372 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: So two three four very simple things, but you can't 373 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: stay with any certainty that it's just going to click 374 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: and happen. Great to talk to you, so always, Thank you, Budd. 375 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: All right, thanks for having me. Dan. Be sure to 376 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays 377 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 1: at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports 378 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: Radio and the iHeart Radio wapp. Rick Stroud joining us 379 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: on loan from the Tampa Bay Times and I think 380 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: still when New Orleans getting ready to fly back to Tampa, Rick, 381 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. What is it about the Saints 382 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: that gives the Tampa Bay Buccaneers trouble? You know, Dan, 383 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: I just think that Sean Payton does such a terrific job. 384 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the record that he has 385 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: without a quarterback named Drew Brees. I think it's like 386 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: thirteen and three, and you know, they're so well prepared. 387 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: That's a physical, physical defense that puts a lot of 388 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: pressure on Tom Brady. Everybody tries to write they're successful 389 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: in doing it. And you know, seven of Brady's seventeen 390 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: in orption since he's been a Tampa Bay Buccaneer have 391 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: come against the Saints. He hasn't beaten him in the 392 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: regular season, so clearly you credit the coaching and in 393 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: their players. I also thought about that quote where he 394 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: was sort of off the cuff having fun with the 395 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: Manning brothers, where he's talking about defenses. It's like cars 396 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: or dogs chasing cars, and I thought, God, Lee, that's 397 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: the kind of thing that comes back to haunt you. 398 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: Do you think the same thing I did. I thought, 399 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: this is not the week to be talking about dogs 400 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: chasing cars, because you know, you're the car and they 401 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: caught him, so, uh, you know, it just wasn't a 402 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: good idea. But you know, Tom is feeling himself in Tampa, 403 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: as we know, he's found his voice and in doing that. 404 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: You know, look, it felt like there was a lot 405 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: of hubrists with the Bucks yesterday. You know, I just 406 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: felt that they did beat him in the divisional playoff. 407 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: That was the one that mattered. Obviously, Breeze was, you know, 408 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: a shell of himself and all of that, but but 409 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: this is the team that won the NFC sout four 410 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: years in a row and and now has a you know, 411 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: sort of a leg up on the head to head. 412 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: So you know, of all the years in the NFC, 413 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: if you're going to go to the playoffs, you need 414 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: to win your division because there's too many good teams, 415 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, with one one loss. Uh. And so you 416 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: know they did it last year the hard way, but 417 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: there were no fans or very few fans on the road. 418 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: That won't be the case. So it's going to be 419 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: a battle I think all the way to the end 420 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: with these two teams. How would you assess Tampa's defense? Well, 421 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, again they're playing you know, with 422 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: a with a short deck. I mean, they're missing their corners. 423 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: They hope to get guys like Carlton Davis, Sean Murphy 424 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: bunting back after the bye. This is a much needed 425 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: rest for them. Um, you know, Richard Sherman was active, 426 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: was there just to finish a game if they needed them. 427 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: So that certainly helped them. Hurt them on the back 428 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: end yesterday you saw that. But I think they made mistakes, uh, 429 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: just of emotion. You know, Devin White can't get you know, 430 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: a horse caller penalty unfortunately hurt Jamis Winston on that 431 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: then gets another roughing the passer um you know, and 432 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: then ends up with a taunting penalty. You know, this team, 433 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: this team hurts itself. There was one play, you know 434 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: where they have an interception in the end zone with 435 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield Junior. He's eating W's in the end zone 436 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: while the flags dropping on Will Golston for roughing the passer. 437 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just a bad look for a young 438 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: team that needs to know, you know, sort of how 439 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: to act. And I just felt like they didn't handle 440 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: their emotions very well yesterday and they got to get 441 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: better at that because they've talked about penalties all year. 442 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: They cut them out after the Chicago's game a year ago. 443 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: But they're still happening. So you know, they can't beat themselves. 444 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 1: They're they're a better football team than the Saints. They 445 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: didn't show it yesterday. Most threatening team in the NFC 446 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay's who, um, Well, if you can't win 447 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: the division, that's going to be tough. But I would 448 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: say I would say the best team I've seen, and 449 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: they got to get healthy, is the Dallas Cowboys. You know, 450 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: the Rams certainly have the formula because they have some 451 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: some some top flight defensive player with Jalen Ramsey and 452 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald and that. But I think you can beat them. 453 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: I look at the Cowboys if they get their defense 454 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: together and those guys are healthy. Offensively, with Dak the 455 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: way he's playing, they're they're a tough out. I mean 456 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: the Bucks, you know one on Opening night by three, 457 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: But I like that. I like that football team. There's 458 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: a lot of good ones in the NFC and and 459 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: really I think it's going to be a premium on 460 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: who wins the division. If you can win your division 461 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: and get a home game or two, you'll be okay. 462 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: But let's be honest. If you look at the records 463 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: of the schedules, I think everything's going through Green Bay 464 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: and that's you know, if the Bucks or anybody else 465 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: has to go up there, it's likely not going to 466 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: be a bombing day like it was a year ago. 467 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: And there'll be more than nine thousand fans with Placard's 468 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: banging on the stand. So that's always a tough place 469 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: to play, and there's just not many teams. I think 470 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: the Packers are going to lose to safe travels Rick. 471 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: Always great to talk to you. Thank you, Thanks Dan 472 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: for shit. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 473 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 474 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: Fox sports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app 475 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: search f SR to listen live. We could go. At 476 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: this time, Carson Palmer joined us, the former NFL quarterback 477 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner at USC and I asked him the 478 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: following question, is James Franklin the front runner? As I've reported, 479 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of front runners right now, 480 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: and that's why I like where we're sitting. You know, 481 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: we had the first hot seat open up. You can't 482 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: have a lot of front runners, Carson. You can have 483 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: a front runner. You've got Penn State, You've got Iowa State, 484 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: You've got Cincinnati, You've got a wild card like Mike 485 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: Tomlin that if Mike Tomlin wants out. And I think 486 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, there is 487 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: not a direct that's the guy. Everybody's pointing their fingers 488 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: that there's a there's a lot of great options. Let's 489 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: bringing Carson Palmer, who joins this weekly appearance here. How 490 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: did things change after yesterday or last week at this 491 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: time when you mentioned Mike Tomlin's name. Yeah, they that 492 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: got a little bit of attention for me throwing a 493 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: wild card out there, Hey, us Trojan fans can dream. 494 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: That's a dream scenario picking up a guy like Mike 495 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: Tomlin going to USC. But it's a wild card, and 496 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: I got a little bit of attention. Obviously, did you 497 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: get any phone calls after that? I got some phone calls. 498 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: I got some phone calls and lots of texts. But again, 499 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: it's a wild card. It's a it's a it's a 500 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: day dream by me and probably all other USC fans 501 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: across the nation. And I wondered about that because you 502 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: did say it. I even said it after you did, 503 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: and said it the next day. This is a wish list. 504 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: You're not reporting Mike Tomlin was interested in USC. It's USC. 505 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: There's probably quite a few names on that list that 506 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: obviously you don't want to mention as wild cards now, 507 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: but there are probably some other notable coaches on there 508 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: that people might be surprised that USC would think. Hey, 509 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: who knows, let's take a shot. Is that Is that 510 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: a fair assessment of the hiring search here? That's all 511 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: it is as an assessment. I'm not sitting in meetings 512 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: with athletic directors and athletic program and boosters. I'm listening 513 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: to news bites here and there from all over the 514 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: country like you are, and there's a lot of wild cards. 515 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I probably the most notable one that everybody 516 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: ties is Luke Fickle because of the relationship that Mike 517 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: Bone and Luke Fickle had as Mike hired Luke at 518 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: the University of Cincinnati. But there's a lot of interest 519 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: in this job, and the reason is it's USC. It's 520 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: it's not your usual run of the mill college. We're 521 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: talking about SC So there's a bunch of names that 522 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: are being thrown out there, and as the season progresses, 523 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: it's really fun to follow along and see who's name 524 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: gets thrown on the hat. What was your reaction to 525 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin's reaction? I got. The first text I got 526 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: was from my brother saying, Hey, Mike Tomlin is gonna 527 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: be hot in his first press conference next week. And 528 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: he was, Yeah, he was. And you know, it's it's 529 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: it's not fair of me to all of a sudden 530 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: everybody jump on the bandwagon and throw that out there. 531 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: I was just daydreaming out loud with you. Dan, you 532 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: asked me a question directly. Who who I'd be excited about, 533 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: Who I'd like And I'd love to see Mike Tomlin 534 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: got a lot of love and respect for playing against 535 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: him for ten years, and then buddies that have played 536 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: for him. But again, it's early. There's a lot of 537 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: football left to be played. There's gonna be another college 538 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: name that another college coach that gets hot here and 539 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: gets his team into a big bowl game or into 540 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs maybe, and then that name will be thrown 541 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: in the ring. So it's just fun to talk about 542 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: and digest all these names and all these guys as 543 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: we get down here to the end of this season. 544 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: And Luke Fickle's name came up a while ago, and 545 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: then I had to source say, Luke doesn't want to 546 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: leave the Midwest. Do you understand that that you know? 547 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean, when you go to you're uprooting your family, 548 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: you go to southern California. I mean, it's it's a 549 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: whole different lifestyle than what he's got in Cincinnati right now. 550 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: But could you see him wanting to stay in the 551 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: Midwest or not wanting to go out and kind of 552 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: trying to immerse himself into southern California. Uprooting your family 553 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: is part of the deal. That's part of the jobs. 554 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: As coaches bounce around from team to team, nobody just 555 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 1: signs a contract with one team and stays there their 556 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: entire career. Very very rarely, so women that get interested 557 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: in coaches know that before they say yes or I do, 558 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: they understand that that's the coach's lifestyle. It is what 559 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: it is. It's year after year, a couple of years here, 560 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: a couple of years there. But at the end of 561 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: the day, you know, there's only a handful of elite 562 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, creme de la creme programs, the Alabama's, USC's 563 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: Texas and so on. And so when you have a 564 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: chance to leave and be really happy and comfortable in 565 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: your home state, or maybe your kids are happy at school, 566 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: your wife's happy in the neighborhood. But when you have 567 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: a chance to leave for one of those premier programs, 568 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: it's definitely a discussion around the dinner table there with 569 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: that family. All right, let's dive into the NFL. Carson 570 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 1: Palmer joining us worst loss of the weekend turned in 571 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: by who. I think it's a tie between what happened 572 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: in New Orleans with Tampa. I mean, Tampa really had 573 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: a chance to separate themselves in that division and take 574 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: a big lead as well as Cincinnati did. Cincinnati should 575 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: be sitting here at six and two. They're five and 576 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: three with a big loss in New York to the Jets. 577 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: They really had a chance to distinguish themselves in the 578 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: AFC North after that big beating they put down on 579 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: Baltimore a couple of weeks ago. That gave them the 580 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: outright lead and that division had they won. Unfortunately, both 581 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: those teams lost. Now, the NFC South and the AFC South, 582 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: they're pretty wide open him for a champion because both 583 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: those teams are tied at the top and Derrick Henry 584 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: looks like he might be done for the year, going 585 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: to need foot surgery there. Yeah, I was wondering who's 586 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: the team to beat in the NFC right now. It's 587 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: still Tampa. It's still the defending champs. You know. I 588 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: think they have probably the best defense in the game 589 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: right now, coached by Todd Balls, who's an unbelievable defensive coach, 590 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: and you've got Tom Brady, So they're still the team 591 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: to knock off. In the NFC. Yeah, I was wondering. 592 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: You know, it feels like it's going through Green Bay 593 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: because that division is bad and they've had some pretty 594 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: impressive wins. You know, the Rams are kind of quietly 595 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: building up the winds. Seattle's not good, San Francisco hasn't 596 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: been good, Arizona came back down to earth a little bit. 597 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I probably look at Green Bay 598 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: right now, even though if you said both are healthy, 599 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: I'd say Tampa would probably be the most well rounded 600 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: team there. Where do the Rams fit in that equation? 601 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: The Rams are the sleeper. It's kind of funny. Being 602 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: based in Los Angeles, you're not hearing a ton about them. 603 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: For the most part. It seems like the bigger, you know, 604 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: the major metropolis cities, seem to get a lot of 605 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: attention when they're doing well, and for some reason, the 606 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: Rams are just kind of plugging along and beating everybody 607 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: they should beat and winning pretty pretty easily in most 608 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: of their games, and nobody's giving them the credit and 609 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: the love, which doesn't make any sense. I mean, they 610 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: finally have you know, a top ten, top five maybe 611 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league, and so they're a team that's 612 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: kind of sneaking along and nobody's really talking about them 613 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: talent for talent, I mean, you look at you put 614 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: LA next to Green Bay, and I think the better 615 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: rosters in LA. But green Bay's got Aaron Rodgers. So 616 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: that's always the wild card. But at the end of 617 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: the day, at this point in the season, I always 618 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: go with a defending champ if they're still playing well 619 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: and they're they're at the top, and that's Tampa and 620 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: I think they're they're going to come down to it. 621 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: I'd love to see in the NFC Championship green Bay 622 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: Tampa and we might end up seeing that. Explain to 623 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: me Bill Belichick going on the road against the Charger 624 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: team that everybody has christened as they're one of the 625 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: elite teams and Justin Herbert the quarterback you want to 626 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: build around, and Bill ends up bringing his team out 627 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: there and picking up the win. That one really surprised me. 628 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: What about you, Yeah, yeah, I mean, I know there's 629 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: a lot of hype. There was a lot of hype 630 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: three weeks ago and on the Chargers and that's died off. 631 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: Now they've lost a couple over the last three weeks 632 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: and they ran into the buzz saw that is Bill Belichick. 633 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, he always does something 634 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: to throw you for a loop. As a quarterback, he 635 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: always plays. He always seems to play really, really well 636 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: and have a good defensive game plan against these next 637 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: hot shot quarterbacks that people are getting excited about. So 638 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: he did what Bill Belichick does. He slowed him down. 639 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: He created a couple turnovers. They had some really interesting 640 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: plays where they were bringing different fire zones and got 641 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: some sacks and got some hits, and got Justin Herbert 642 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: off of his spot in the pocket and made him 643 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: move and delayed the past. So Bill did what he 644 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: what he typically does year in year out, which is 645 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: frustrated young quarterback that everybody's kind of like you said, 646 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,959 Speaker 1: Christen is the next greatest thing, And he slowed him 647 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: down and mac Jones ended up playing better and looking 648 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: better as that game went on, Carson Wentz had one 649 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 1: of those moments where and I'm sure you know the 650 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: feeling or been in it close to it, but you know, 651 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: he switched his hands to throw it and he's in 652 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: the end zone and throws that interception. Is it the 653 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: younger quarterback that's trying to make something always happen because 654 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: they they're not that far removed from college. I mean, 655 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: I guess Carson would be considered a veteran now, so 656 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: that even less of an excuse there. But what is 657 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: the feeling like when you're in the moment, You're still 658 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: trying to make something happen, but you shouldn't. He's far 659 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: too better and to make that mistake. You do see 660 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: that with a young guy, and Mac Jones, it's okay, 661 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: you know, even even a younger quarterback first couple starts, 662 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: but Carson's been in the league far too long, and 663 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: that team is built to the point where you can't 664 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: make that kind of play as a quarterback. That team 665 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: is built to run the ball, and they've done that 666 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: extremely effectively. And that team is built to play great 667 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: defense and not turn the ball over. Unfortunately, you can't 668 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: do that when you have a team like that and 669 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: you don't have a clear cut number one guy to 670 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: throw the ball up to, you know, fifty fifty balls 671 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: and explosive offense. That team is built to play great defense, 672 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: control the ball with the running game, with a short 673 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: passing game, and not turn it over. And unfortunately he's 674 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: turned it over far too many times. And you know, 675 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: he's the first to admit it. He said it after 676 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: the games. I cannot make those plays. He knows it, 677 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: and he's just Carson's always kind of been one of 678 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: those guys that just can't give up. He just can't 679 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: say quit. You know, he just is always fighting for 680 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: an extra yard. He's always thinking he can pull some 681 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 1: sort of superhuman superman play out of something that it's 682 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: there's just nothing there. Sometimes you just need to eat 683 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: it and take a safety. Sometimes you just need to 684 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: take the sack or throw it out of the bounds. Unfortunately, 685 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: he's too far along in his career to continuously make 686 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: those mistakes. What's it like in film study when you 687 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: know you've you've thrown a bad interception or fumble or 688 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and you know what's coming up, Like, 689 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: what's that feeling like as you're sitting there and just 690 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: waiting to see if the coach just piles on. That's 691 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: the worst part of the week. You're you're surrounded by 692 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: your teammates and your peers, and there's no doubt you're 693 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,479 Speaker 1: playing for the fans, and you're playing for the fan 694 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: base and for your family and all that, but more importantly, 695 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: Carson's playing for his teammates. And when when you let 696 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: your teammates down, it's not the it's not the fear 697 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: of letting a fan down or the fan base down. 698 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: It's when you let your teammates down. And it's one 699 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: of those deals. You're sitting in that meeting and you 700 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: know that plays coming up in four plays, in three plays, 701 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: in two plays, and then here it is, and you 702 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: just slow, you start sinking in that seat. Your face 703 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: starts getting really red and hot, almost like you have 704 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: a temperature, your temperatures rising because you're surrounded by your tier, 705 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: your peers, and those are the guys that are putting 706 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: in their best work all week long, preparing for that game, 707 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: preparing for that moment to be in that moment with 708 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: a chance to have a game winning drive. And it's 709 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: not the fans you let down. It's that hurts. It's 710 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: the guys in the room. They're sitting next to you 711 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 1: and sitting behind you. Those are the ones that hurt 712 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: the most. Is when you're watching it with your teammates 713 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: and you know you let all those guys down, But 714 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 1: do you have to explain it in the moment during 715 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 1: film session, Are you allowed to say anything? Every player 716 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: has made it. It's not always a quarterback. Sometimes it's 717 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: an offensive tackle that on a big drive just got 718 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: his hands too high and wrapped his arm around a 719 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: defender and they throw a flag for fifteen yarders and 720 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: that's what caused the loss, or a miss tackle or 721 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 1: a miss dropped interception. At this point in guy's careers, 722 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: once they make it to the NFL, as great as 723 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: all those players are in the locker room, they've all 724 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: made a massive mistake that lost a game for a 725 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,240 Speaker 1: team or lost a game, and know how that feels. 726 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: So um, nothing needs to be said. You don't need 727 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: to stand up and go, hey, my bad. Everybody. Everybody 728 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: knows that you are bad. You threw it to the 729 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: other team. That's you're bad. So there's no there's no 730 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: explanation needed or everybody knows what you know what it 731 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: is the Chiefs tonight against the Giants, and everybody's going 732 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: to have an opinion tomorrow one way or another about 733 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Can they play a conservative style of offense. 734 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: That's not how they're built. That's the that's especially not 735 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: how they're built. On the back end of their defense there. 736 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: That defense is built to play with the lead, so 737 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: playing conservative and running it and um, you know that 738 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 1: that's just not who they are. But this is a 739 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: statement game if there's ever been a statement game. This 740 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 1: is a bad New York Giants team. There's a lot 741 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: going on in Kansas City. There's some players going back 742 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: and forth with the fan base, and um, there's a 743 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: lot of distractions. And at the end of the day, 744 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: we've all heard it a million times. A win cures 745 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: all and it just covers everything up. Just win and 746 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: it puts all the back and forth of the Kansas 747 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: City fan base has had with Tyron Matthew and a 748 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: couple other players. It covers that up until next week 749 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: and then the week after. But this is a state 750 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: that they need to blow this team out by eighteen points. 751 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a bad team against the team 752 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: that's been been representing the AFC in the Super Bowl 753 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. So this is a game 754 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 1: that they need to win decisively. They need to put 755 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: this team away early. They cannot sit out there and 756 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: run the ball and check it down. Patrick Mahomes needs 757 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: to be Patrick Mahomes. He needs to throw the ball 758 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: over the top, be explosive, and win by a couple scores. 759 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: I don't think you said anything inflammatory today. Congratulations. Hopefully 760 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: you have a nice weekend here and no text messages 761 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: from your brother or phone calls or anything like that. Carson, Yeah, 762 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: you didn't set me up today with I didn't set 763 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: you up. You know. It was one of those where 764 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: I threw up a fifty fifty ball and you came 765 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 1: down with it. I mean you could have letted football. 766 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, we can we can all do 767 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: all us USC Trojan fans. We can dream. We can 768 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: dream about Tomlin or you throw another name out there 769 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: and I'll say, yeah, sure he'll leave for the job. 770 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: About Belichick, do you think Belichick is on the USC's 771 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: wish list. I have nothing but tremendous respect for Belichick, 772 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,959 Speaker 1: but I cannot see him in college. I cannot see 773 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 1: him in a room with that dry sense of humor 774 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: and just that overall dryness. We need energy at that level. 775 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: You got eighteen to twenty one years old. You need energy, 776 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 1: You need up tempo, and I don't see Bill changing 777 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: his ways for college. Is Pete Carroll on the list. 778 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: I don't think Pete can go back just because he can't. 779 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: He can't do what he did already. I mean, he 780 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: set the bar up here and won national championship after 781 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: national championship. If he goes back, there's it's almost impossible 782 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: to replicate that. So I think that is the only 783 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: reason he looks at that job and says, I don't 784 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: want it. I can't go back. I can't do what 785 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 1: I did back in the mid two thousands. Again, let's 786 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: stir it up though. Let's get another headline. How about 787 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: Nick Saban? Uh? Why on earth would Nick leave Alabama 788 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 1: to go to SC I don't know, Okay, Lane Kiffin 789 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: is Lane Kiffin on the list? No, that lady that 790 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: that ship has sailed, that plane, that plane has has flown, 791 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: the plane has has left. M Yeah, it is, yes, 792 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 1: it's I don't see Lane. I mean they already gave 793 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 1: him a shot. I was somebody was asking me that 794 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 1: a date about Zern has already had a shot. Um, 795 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if it was either of those two guys. 796 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: All right, See, I tried to get set you up 797 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: and get another headline here. You know, it's I'm sorry, 798 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: it's just it's in me. It's just it just naturally 799 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: comes out of you, just setting people up. It's just 800 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: like Brady throws touchdown passes. I mean, it's just it's 801 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: it's just there. Yeah, it's just natural. Yeah, that's a gift. 802 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: It's a gift. God gave it to you. What you 803 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: can do. Thank you, car, Thanks Davini. Be sure to 804 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays 805 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 1: at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Flox Sports 806 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey what's up everybody? It's 807 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: me three time pro bowler Levarrington and I couldn't be 808 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 1: more excited to announce a new podcast called Up on Game? 809 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: What is Up on Game? You asked, along with my 810 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: fellow pro bowler t J. Hudshmansatta and Super Bowl champion Yep, 811 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: that's right, Plexico Birds. You can only name a show 812 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: with that type of talent on it. Up on Game 813 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: We're going to be sharing our real life experiences loaded 814 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: with teachable moments. Listen to Up on Game with Me, 815 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington, t J. Hudschmansatta, and Plexico Birds on the 816 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast from. 817 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: Will Ferrell joining us on the program, will thank you 818 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: for the very emotional, very moving speech. I knew it 819 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: came from the heart. It takes me right back as 820 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: soon as I hear that sound, takes me right back. 821 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, Dan, very proud of you. America's 822 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: proud of you. Well, I didn't know that it would 823 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: elicit that kind of emotion, but MANU wow, I mean 824 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: real tears, powerful and I'm a great emotion to the 825 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: point where I was punching holes in the dry wall 826 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: of my house. I couldn't I wasn't able to calm 827 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: down for the next hour. Well, I'm glad that Sandler 828 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: wasn't available, and David Spade wasn't available and some of 829 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: the other people that I ask and Brian Cranston, and 830 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you did respond. So put me in, coach, 831 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: put me, do you have a thought on your alma 832 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,439 Speaker 1: mater USC with a head football coach. Well, I don't 833 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: want to stir anything up. My inside sources tell me 834 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: a gentleman by the name of Nick Saban will be 835 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: the next coach. Okay, Nick Saban. Nick Saban is going 836 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: to leave Alabama for USC. Nick Saban is a mountain climber. Okay, 837 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: and he's already reached the top of that mountain multiple times. 838 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: He's looking for the next mountain. That mountain then Los Angeles, California. 839 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: Um my inside source, okay, okay, Uh, but but you're 840 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: a booster, aren't you. You should have some information. I'm not. 841 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm not a booster. But I my one inside source 842 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: that I talked to, I talked to on the hour 843 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: every hour is as pretty pretty pretty has his finger 844 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: on the pulse. Uh he's a former player. I don't 845 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: want I don't want to say who it is. But 846 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: is it Carson Palmer? Yes? Oh no, we can't do 847 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: you can't do what wait wait, come on, what's going 848 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: on here? You you can't do that to Carson Palmer. 849 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: He had a bad week last week. We can't do 850 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: that to him this week. Okay, Oh, well he's my sword. 851 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to. I gotta give credit where credits to. Hey, 852 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: how's your career going? What's going on with you? Uh? 853 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: It's an absolute free fall? Um no? I Well, since 854 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: you asked, Dan, I've got a limited series coming out. 855 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,720 Speaker 1: We're so we're out of time right now. The shrink 856 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: next door me and my good buddie, Paul run I 857 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: saw the trailer for it, as we like to say 858 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: in the business, and uh, you got wild looking hair, 859 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,760 Speaker 1: you got your glasses on. And Paul Rudd doesn't seem 860 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: like he's a good guy in this series. No, I 861 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: transform we both. It's uh, it's it's different from what 862 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: you're going to normally see us do. It's exciting. It's 863 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: called I'm stretching. It's stretching. Well, hold on, what the 864 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,800 Speaker 1: others I'm just getting this too. It's either Nick Saban 865 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: or it's Nick Saban's brothers, one of the two Teddy Yeah, yeah, 866 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,919 Speaker 1: he has nothing to do with football, I don't think. 867 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: But either way, we're looking good. Well, thank you very much. 868 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: Well and uh time all right, next Hall of Fame. 869 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,439 Speaker 1: I'll I'll reached out reach out of you. Okay, when 870 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: is when is the next one? What do we think? 871 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: What do we do? I mean, it feels like it 872 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: happens like a couple of times a year. Yeah. Yeah, 873 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: because you're getting you're getting towards the end. Yeah, I'm 874 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: not in a in a free fall yet, but yeah, 875 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm getting towards the end. Trust me, I know the feelings. 876 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: Keep keep your head up. Okay, I think I'm getting 877 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: inducted into Nickelodeon Kid's Choice. All the same, we think, congratulations, 878 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: that's you got that that you You were snubbed for years, 879 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: and I'm glad that that that has been remedied. Now 880 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: let's see if I show up all right, well, thank you, 881 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: thank you, Will once again, that's right, thank you, that's 882 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 1: Will Ferrell. Very emotional, very emotional,