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<v Speaker 1>On today's episode of News, We're talking Doune three News,

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking Emmy norms. It's news. Hello, my name is

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Concepcion and I'm Rosie Night and welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>my heart, where we're bringing you three episodes a Weeklas News,

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<v Speaker 1>It's news, It's news.

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<v Speaker 2>You made it. It's another week. Congrats, Yay news. In

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<v Speaker 2>today's news, we are catching up on the biggest geek

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<v Speaker 2>news of the week, including the twenty twenty six Emmy nominations,

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<v Speaker 2>which featured some of our fabes, the latest trailer for

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<v Speaker 2>Dune three, Oh Baby, Paula Trades, he's doing the bad stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>He's doing it. It's happening, and PlayStation eliminating physical media

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<v Speaker 2>because they hate you owning anything. But first, it's the Emmys.

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<v Speaker 1>Emmy nominations have been announced and here's some of your

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<v Speaker 1>top line numbers. The Pit leads all shows with total

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<v Speaker 1>nominations twenty five noms for the Pit. That is followed

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<v Speaker 1>by Hacks with twenty four, a record for comedy series

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<v Speaker 1>in a single year. This feels like a reaction a

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<v Speaker 1>bear anti bear as a comedy reaction, Finally swinging back

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<v Speaker 1>the other way. Newcomer Widows Bay leading all new shows

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<v Speaker 1>with nineteen nominations and much.

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<v Speaker 2>Deserved misses followed, but we love that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is followed by Ploribus eighteen, the most Vince Gilligan

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<v Speaker 1>has ever received for a date season of his show,

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<v Speaker 1>and showing the rise of Apple TV plus as a

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<v Speaker 1>premium television destination. Then comes season two of Beef, sixty

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<v Speaker 1>nominations from Netflix and eight twenty four DTF say the

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely mad cap did did you watch that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god crazy? I'm surprised that did not scream

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<v Speaker 2>award show to me even though I knocked it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say, I wonder if this is representative

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<v Speaker 2>of who is voting or how TV voting is changing.

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<v Speaker 2>But both Widows Bay and DTF Saint Louis being on

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<v Speaker 2>here so high were like really good for me, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's the kind of weird shit that

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be getting nominated.

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<v Speaker 1>I could imagine Widow's Baby because the critical reviewing has

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<v Speaker 1>been so high quality and so full of praise. DTF

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Louis is so fucking weird, And I did not

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<v Speaker 1>get the sense from just scrolling around that like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people were watching it. So I was pretty shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, if you haven't watched it, it's an

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<v Speaker 1>indescribable show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can't even understand.

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<v Speaker 1>This about secret lives and being the person that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be, and sex and the way that we

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<v Speaker 1>relate to each other over sex and the it cannot

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<v Speaker 1>be explained, just you gotta watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>So weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Then came Senta It Live our only like network appear

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<v Speaker 1>truly eleven nominations for Saturday Night Live from NBC, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think another surprise eleven nominations for Spider Noir on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, that is very interesting to me, especially because I

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<v Speaker 2>will say, look, Spider Noir, it was fun. We had

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<v Speaker 2>fun with it. I'm gonna tell you that shocked me

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<v Speaker 2>simply because I do think there's one big snub here

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<v Speaker 2>that it was not fully snubbed. It got like a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of technicals. But for me, I think it welcomed

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<v Speaker 2>to Darry should have been way higher up. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it should have gotten so many norms for performances. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it should have got norms for writing, like it's

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<v Speaker 2>so fucking good. It should have got like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Amy's does ensemble, but like it was

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<v Speaker 2>just so good and the fact Stranger Things got more

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<v Speaker 2>norms than that, to me, it was kind of crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>like that was the one show that I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get the love it deserted. But also it's a

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<v Speaker 2>horror show well so traditionally very normal. I was happy

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<v Speaker 2>to see Night of the Seven Kingdoms get Outstanding Drama though,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that is just such a special show,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's easily my pick for that category this year,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I would pick it over the pit. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we go through some good shit like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go through some of these categories out saying DRAVI,

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned it The Diplomat on Netflix, The Gilded Age,

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<v Speaker 1>a Night of the Seven Kingdoms Paradise, which I also

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<v Speaker 1>thought was a bit of a surprise. The pick crazy

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<v Speaker 1>plorabis slow horses Apple TV Plus and your Friends and

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<v Speaker 1>Neighbors Apple TV Plus. Apple TV Plus also kind of

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<v Speaker 1>owning the I was going to see people with rich

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<v Speaker 1>people with dark lines kind of category.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of crazy that Apple TV has an equal amount

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<v Speaker 2>of nominations in Outstanding Drama sees series as HBO. There

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<v Speaker 2>is a time a couple of years ago where you

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<v Speaker 2>would have never have seen that coming or won a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of money if you bet that you did. So

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<v Speaker 2>their long play has really gone hit, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually kind of crazy. I'm not gonna say, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna lie. Outstanding Drama Series. So we have Diplomat

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<v Speaker 2>that's like a spy series, right, Gilded Age, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>period piece. Nine of the Seven Kingdoms is a fantasy paradise.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a sci fi. The Pit it's hospital standard plural us,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a sci fi, it's a spy. We're getting a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of like quite genre heavy pieces here being recognized

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<v Speaker 2>in these categories in a way that I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't often happen. So that's really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Outstanding Comedy Series, Avid Elementary, The Bear Boo Who it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a comedy, Hacks, Margo's Got Money, Troubles, which is excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody wants this from Netflix only Murders in the Building,

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<v Speaker 1>new season from Hulu and Shrinking from Apple TV plus.

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<v Speaker 1>Shouts to our favorite Harris at Ford d Widows Bait

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<v Speaker 1>from Apple TV plus. That's this is a man, super

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<v Speaker 1>super strong category. The Outstanding Limited Series All Her Fault

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<v Speaker 1>from Peacock, The Beast in Me from Netflix, Beef, DTF

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Louis Love Story JFK Junior in Caroline Bissett, which

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<v Speaker 1>I started watching.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit. I actually think that Beef and DTF

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Louis are the firm runners for that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly so fucking shocked if DTF Saint Louis wins,

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<v Speaker 1>it's me too.

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<v Speaker 2>But the rest, like love Story JFK and Carolyn Bessett,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fine, right, It's very like standard what you expect

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<v Speaker 2>it to be. The Beast in Meat is actually fantastic,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's super bleak and weird, and it's really a

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<v Speaker 2>two hander, So I would love to see that win. All.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it's very like what you think it is

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<v Speaker 2>from the title. But I feel like even though Beef

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<v Speaker 2>season two we know it dropped off thirty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>those big Netflix conversations, I think that there's something about

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<v Speaker 2>the anthology of it all. The casting is very appealing

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<v Speaker 2>to voters, but DTF Saint Louis getting in a tour

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<v Speaker 2>makes me think there's a chance it could win, which

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<v Speaker 2>is just crazy to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about some of the snubs and surprises. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so Stranger Things shut out of all major character categories.

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<v Speaker 1>Final season earned seven Craft nominations but zero Outstanding Drama Series,

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<v Speaker 1>Lead Actor, Lead Actress, any above the line categories, which

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<v Speaker 1>I found surprising, especially for the last season of a

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<v Speaker 1>huge show.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why Hacks, I think as well, got so much

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<v Speaker 2>recognition this season. Final season. Incredible season, so funny and

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<v Speaker 2>like a little bit of that late stage recognition. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Stranger Things was, you know, in a complicated situation

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<v Speaker 2>because it has essentially become It was the show that

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<v Speaker 2>launched Netflix, but in its own way, it's also the

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<v Speaker 2>show that's kind of killing Netflix because of it's set up,

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<v Speaker 2>the established two to three years between the kids are

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<v Speaker 2>growing up too much. There's not enough episodes, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's interesting to kind of see it end that way.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I agree. I mean, I think that it

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<v Speaker 2>got like one or two technicals, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it should have been up there for technicals as well

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<v Speaker 2>as in my opinion, like performances and writing. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>not surprise for me. As Stranger Things, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a complicated space and if you really look at the

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<v Speaker 2>quality of the show, like compared to some of these

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<v Speaker 2>other shows, it doesn't have the juice. I will say

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<v Speaker 2>Widow's Bed to Me was a surprise, but simply just

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<v Speaker 2>because of the timing was so close right, Like it

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<v Speaker 2>was like could it is it really going to get

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<v Speaker 2>the juice with voters to get in this close? And

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<v Speaker 2>it did and it deserves it completely Like nineteen and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so gag Kato Fling got nom like they really

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<v Speaker 2>recognized the talent in that show. Jason, I think the

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<v Speaker 2>hardest category for me to pick is the comedy series

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<v Speaker 2>with that Abbott, Elementary Hacks, Margo's Got Money, Troubles Shrinking,

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<v Speaker 2>which people love. We also saw Jessica Williams get and

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<v Speaker 2>I mean non finally for Shrinking, which I love, the

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<v Speaker 2>big cool comic book zine Head There She's a baddie.

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<v Speaker 2>I love her. What and Widow's Bay. What is your pick?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I think that's the hardest category to pick from.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would go Widows Bay Immediate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so too. I think the motion. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it has the motion. I think it has the momentum.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was generally seen as a pretty flawless

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<v Speaker 2>first season. I would also probably go for that though.

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<v Speaker 2>I do just think that last season of Hacks was

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<v Speaker 2>amazing and I love Quinta. I think abb Elementary is great.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Margo's got money troubles. I'd love to see

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<v Speaker 2>that pull through as a little like underdog, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think right now Widow's b or shrinking is probably the

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<v Speaker 2>safe bet.

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<v Speaker 1>Other surprises and snubs the boys in Euphoria.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a surprise? I don't know, I mean, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to say, for for Zendea, I loved

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<v Speaker 2>that she got numbed. She got numbed even though she's

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<v Speaker 2>three for three nombed every season for Euphoria, and she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even do any fucking for it.

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<v Speaker 1>No Sydney Sweeney, No Sidney Sweeney despite heavy, heavy campaigning.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. I mean Sam. Sam probably told her she'd

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<v Speaker 2>get nominated if she got her boobs out in that

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<v Speaker 2>fifty foot Woman sequence, which I personally did love, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's a crazy sequins, but like, come on, babe, you

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<v Speaker 2>were never getting it. I'm sorry A sendays show.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad Bunny nine nominations. I think A delightful surprise here

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<v Speaker 1>from the super Bowl. From the Super Bowl Halftime Show,

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor shoft eras tour five nominations on Disney Plus, which

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy, and I think this is I think a

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<v Speaker 1>surprise just feels like a generational surprise. Subway Takes, the

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube series has been nominated for Outstanding Short Form Comedy

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<v Speaker 1>Drama of Variety. Huh, this is like we've arrived. You've

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<v Speaker 1>arrived at this level.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, can I just say, what happened to

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<v Speaker 2>Chicken Shop?

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<v Speaker 1>Why? Why not chicken Shop? I think Chicken Shop is funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Is kind of crazy that she didn't get no because

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<v Speaker 2>she was so in the ind things hot ones. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what it is about Subway Takes, specifically who's dad,

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<v Speaker 2>Who's whose kid is that? But that's actually really funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say thank you to everyone, many of

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<v Speaker 2>my loved ones who sent me the Subway Takes with

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<v Speaker 2>that old man who hates Christopher Nolan and said, this

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<v Speaker 2>is you. It's true, I am a Christopher Nolan sink.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to specify. While me and that guy

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<v Speaker 2>agree on most things, I don't love once upon a

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<v Speaker 2>time in Hollywood guys, So let's just clear that up.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Subway to do very crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we talk about your what is what is your

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<v Speaker 1>Christopher Nolan issue.

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<v Speaker 2>My Nolan issue is like less about the actual films,

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<v Speaker 2>which are obviously very well made, and more about like

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<v Speaker 2>the way that certain directors are like built up right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's very tiring to constantly be told this

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<v Speaker 2>is the best director in the world when there are

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<v Speaker 2>like incredible directors working. I would also say The Batman

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<v Speaker 2>Christophanolan movies like did so much damage psychically culturally to

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<v Speaker 2>like the grim dark trend that I will never be

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<v Speaker 2>able to truly love them. And also, guys, I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>tell you something else. And Christopher Nolan, I'm excited for

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<v Speaker 2>The Odyssey. So if you're listening, as I know you do,

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<v Speaker 2>it's getting it's getting great reviews, right, But I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to say, inception you like that movie, go watch

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<v Speaker 2>a movie called Patrick Obabe. Was she coming? These motherfuckers

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<v Speaker 2>just be ripping off anime all day every day. Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's my issue with Christopher Nolan. There's many I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's fine. He's a good direct though, he went to

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<v Speaker 2>film school. Good job.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that here's my Christopher Nolan take. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that he is an excellent director. I think he has

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<v Speaker 1>made many, many really great movies. And then every single

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<v Speaker 1>one of these movies, even the ones I don't like,

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<v Speaker 1>like Interstellar, yeah always have or or Tenant, there's always

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<v Speaker 1>two to three scenes that I would pull up on

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube and rewatch agree, Like I would rewatch the the

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<v Speaker 1>terrorist takeover of the Performance Hall from Tenant, I would

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<v Speaker 1>watch that against So I think that's like really well done,

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<v Speaker 1>even though that movie is absolutely poppy cock.

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<v Speaker 2>And guess what, I love sham mockery.

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<v Speaker 1>Confused mess and Interstellar is just like sappy fucking nonsense,

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<v Speaker 1>but like arriving on the new planet, like there's a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of stuff that's really good.

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<v Speaker 2>He's well, that's what I'm saying. Like I was convinced

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<v Speaker 2>to be excited about the Odyssey because of the Trojan

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<v Speaker 2>Horse sequence I saw at Cinema. Con Like that man

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<v Speaker 2>can do a fucking action sequence. Think about the Bain sequence,

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<v Speaker 2>even the really both both the robbing the Wall Street

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<v Speaker 2>is a great sequence in that movie and the Bain

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<v Speaker 2>sequence in the Gotham Nights Stadium, right, Like Christopher Nolen

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<v Speaker 2>can fucking he can make a set piece. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>even the inception set piece that was definitely him kind

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, auditioning to be the James Bond director

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<v Speaker 2>where they have this snow set piece right like that

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<v Speaker 2>ship bangs like I bet you did.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't want to do that. My guess is that

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<v Speaker 1>he would not want to really be the James Bond

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<v Speaker 1>director unless they would give him significant leeway to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be probably run by Amazon, I would say. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>interested to see Denise take on it, And yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>I just I I'm very interested to see how The

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<v Speaker 2>Odyssey is taken because I do feel like it contends

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of the issues I have with his

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<v Speaker 2>previous movies, and I think I'm interested to see the

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<v Speaker 2>way he's been kind of holding up Zendaya and talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how great she is. And I'm very interested to

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<v Speaker 2>see how The Odyssey plays. We will be seeing it

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday night, Jason, so we will be seeing it

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<v Speaker 2>very soon, and I'm very excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Next up, PlayStation is ending physical media. Sony Interactive Entertainment

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<v Speaker 1>has announced that physical game disc production for all new

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<v Speaker 1>video games released on the PlayStation console will end starting

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<v Speaker 1>January twenty twenty eight. After that date, new games will

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<v Speaker 1>be available exclusively in digital formats. This good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a million different reasons why this is a bad idea,

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<v Speaker 1>but like but been a natural evolution, is a cost

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<v Speaker 1>saving idea. There's every expectation that PlayStation six will be

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<v Speaker 1>almost certainly digital only, and this is yet another step

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<v Speaker 1>towards not being able to own the media that you purchase,

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<v Speaker 1>not having control over it. It's bad, but I'm unclear

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<v Speaker 1>what we can do about it and how it can

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<v Speaker 1>force the industry to change. Jean Luke Melenchan, France's left

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<v Speaker 1>wing presidential candidate, called for a legislative review of this, saying, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow you will pay without ever owning anything. He called

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<v Speaker 1>video games cultural assets, not me merchandise, and that's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 1>In the streaming era, when you purchase a movie or

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<v Speaker 1>a television show or a season of TV shows digitally,

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<v Speaker 1>do you own it? Do you own your ebooks? Can

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<v Speaker 1>your ebooks be edited without you knowing? All of these

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<v Speaker 1>are reasons why physical media has an important place still

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<v Speaker 1>in the world despite this clear loss for those of

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<v Speaker 1>us who are fans of physical media.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very heart breaking in my opinion because also

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<v Speaker 2>this is one of those like butterfly effect choices where

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<v Speaker 2>it starts with the gamer right, like we want to

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<v Speaker 2>own the game, we want to be able to play

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<v Speaker 2>the game whenever we want. But then it has ripple effects.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't share your games with your friends anymore if

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<v Speaker 2>they're digital games. Also, it has bigger ripple effects. What

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<v Speaker 2>happens to a game stop, right? What happens to businesses

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<v Speaker 2>that are built a CeX in the UK on selling

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<v Speaker 2>secondhand physical media? Right? I think that is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that we will truly lose with this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the good thing is the games we already exist, already exist,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can own them and we can purchase them.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think this is worrying. Jason. My biggest question

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<v Speaker 2>for you is, and I know the answer, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is something they'll have to contend with. They

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<v Speaker 2>are going to start these programs and these purchases with

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<v Speaker 2>the prices at the same price that a physical one

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<v Speaker 2>would be. Right. That's the big issue is like they

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<v Speaker 2>would They're going to charge eighty dollars for a physical download, right? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So that I think is the biggest thing that they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to contend with because before the price

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<v Speaker 2>could be argued that it was the manufacturing, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>how do you put a value on something that you

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<v Speaker 2>don't even have the purpose to own. Now, the value

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<v Speaker 2>comes from the work and the labor of the video

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<v Speaker 2>artists and the animes and the programmers and shit. But like,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you sell eighty dollars of nothing to people?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's an eighty dollars license to be clear.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, sorry, it's an eight dollar video rental essentially, right, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a license. They can revoke your license for

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<v Speaker 1>any time for whatever reason. But you're paying now for

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<v Speaker 1>to essentially rent the video game that you used to

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<v Speaker 1>in the past buy and put your finger on it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It's very annoying that despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they are cutting out the costs associated with the physical

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<v Speaker 1>manufacture of this past media, the price will stay the same,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that now all they need to do

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<v Speaker 1>to deliver the product from them to us is send

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<v Speaker 1>it down the pipe. They don't need to send it

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<v Speaker 1>to yeah, to a printer that will then print it

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<v Speaker 1>on the discs and source the discs and put it

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<v Speaker 1>on the colors and yeah, the Shiperia.

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<v Speaker 2>Walk and the awe and blah blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>They cut all of that out. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that they will immediately cut the price.

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<v Speaker 1>Very very very annoying. I will guarantee that they will

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<v Speaker 1>not cut the price. They may because of this backlash

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, now it's like five dollars less. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I think sincerely doubt it. And then finally

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<v Speaker 1>we got the full trailer of Dune three A Timothy

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<v Speaker 1>Shalomes and DAYA They Go to War. The new trailer

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<v Speaker 1>debuted July eighth and an Imax Global fan event and

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<v Speaker 1>is now available to see on the Internet. Danny Villeneuve

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<v Speaker 1>and Timothy Shanley presented it before audience is in LA

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<v Speaker 1>with simulcast in Chicago, Dallas, Toronto, Montreal, London, Berlin, Mexico City,

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<v Speaker 1>and Abu Dhabi. An extended clip will screen before the

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<v Speaker 1>Imax seventy millimeters showings of The Odyssey, so we will

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<v Speaker 1>potentially get to see this on the seventy millimeter Imax

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<v Speaker 1>screen Monday, and at each screening location, one audience member

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<v Speaker 1>found an envelope under their seat for a private advanced

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<v Speaker 1>screening of the film. All of this tells me, Rosie,

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<v Speaker 1>they think it's good, Dad, They gets it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Brodd know they have done. This movie comes out the

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<v Speaker 2>same day as doomsday? Can we remember that? And they

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<v Speaker 2>have done two different global trailers.

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<v Speaker 1>We have zero Doomsay screeeners at this official doomsday anything

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<v Speaker 1>like oh, we're getting is leaks of leaks of leaks, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like they think the movie's great. The trailer is huge.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are a fan of the books, you're likely

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be kind of shocked by the trailer. Me and

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<v Speaker 2>a Boo, we're talking about this a little bit. It

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<v Speaker 2>really is leaning into what they set up in Dune

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<v Speaker 2>Part two, which is the idea of Chinese is almost

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<v Speaker 2>like a anti Paula trades warrior or like activist, which

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<v Speaker 2>is not something from the books. We also get to

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<v Speaker 2>see Anya Taylor Joy here with her baby bangs. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the movie that was never officially gonna be called

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<v Speaker 2>Dune Messiah, but we all assumed we'd be adapting that

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<v Speaker 2>part and we do see that here. Like Poorie A,

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing a genocide, he's causing problems. Both the kids

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be in it. So we're really speeding

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<v Speaker 2>through the timeline. When I went to the it's far ahead, right.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a seventeen year jump, and to your point,

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<v Speaker 1>the characters from June Messiah dun Duncan Idaho back from

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<v Speaker 1>the dead as a clone is a character in that

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<v Speaker 1>and his returns here. Also the character Skytail, who's a

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<v Speaker 1>Lee lu Stancier from the book. Is this is Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Pattinson's character. So, yes, this is the Dune Messiah adaptation

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<v Speaker 1>of it. To your point, it certainly looks much changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's definitely going to be changed, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think it looks really great. We get to see some

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<v Speaker 2>fremen action here. We get to see this kind of

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<v Speaker 2>hint of who the Blade is. You know, what Paul's

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<v Speaker 2>sister will do to allow him to connect and complete

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of genocide. I'm very excited. I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>going for Oscar here, for Zenda. I think she's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in big contention. Yeah, I trust any I

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<v Speaker 2>like this. I really want to see how far we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get with the kids, because that's where some really crazy

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<v Speaker 2>shit happens with children of Dune. So yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it looks banger. I did not go and see this

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<v Speaker 2>trailer launch. I was at the first one, but I've

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<v Speaker 2>watched the trailer a bunch of times and it does

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<v Speaker 2>look different. Then he said, this is more of a

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<v Speaker 2>political thriller. It's more of a pot boiler, it's more stealthy,

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<v Speaker 2>it's more violent in ways you're not expecting. The second

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<v Speaker 2>one was the big war movie. This is something different,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm really excited. I think it looks incredible and

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<v Speaker 2>currently they are WB is definitely ahead of Avengers on

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<v Speaker 2>hype for this because imagine, Jason, Yes, five years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>was there a world where you would ever have bet

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<v Speaker 2>that a Dune adaptation, big budget sci fi would be

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<v Speaker 2>able to contend with and potentially crush an mcu event movie,

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<v Speaker 2>Like no fucking way, Like this is a seen as

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<v Speaker 2>an unfilmable book. You know, Lynch is one flop. I

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<v Speaker 2>do think I love it. I love that this is

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<v Speaker 2>where we're at, but it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I do listen. I do have some worries in the

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<v Speaker 1>sense that this is a this is a big tent

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<v Speaker 1>pole like hit, popcorn bucket type movie. And though Denny

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<v Speaker 1>Villeneuve brings a kind of artistic flare to his films

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<v Speaker 1>that are mainstream movies, I think this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be very challenging because what you're doing is, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>adapting the book in in any kind of authentic way,

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<v Speaker 1>you're taking the main character who's been the hero and

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<v Speaker 1>you're turning him into a genocidal maniac who must be stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>And will the.

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<v Speaker 1>Audience go along with that?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? I'm not sure it always type backlash, like people

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<v Speaker 2>won't have seen it coming, or is it well enough known?

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<v Speaker 2>Now I have to tell you something crazy. The last

0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Dune movie the reason we're even getting this. So we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about this the other day that Superman ended its

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<v Speaker 2>run with six hundred and eighteen million dollars worldwide, which

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<v Speaker 2>is not great, but it is what it is. Dude,

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<v Speaker 2>Dune made seven hundred and fifteen million dollars worldwide. It

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<v Speaker 2>beat Superman by almost a million dollar one hundred million dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>and that, to me just showcases that there is a

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<v Speaker 2>want for like epic sci fi that has not been

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<v Speaker 2>being fed or served in a way that works for people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think both the rise of Apple and the

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:09.919
<v Speaker 2>success of these Dune movies are a big part of that. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're right, Jason. Do people come out of

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 2>this movie with a terrible cinema score because they hate

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<v Speaker 2>Paul or are they understanding of a complicated figure and

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<v Speaker 2>sort of will this be the moment where people realize

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<v Speaker 2>what you know Herbert was really doing, which was critiquing

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<v Speaker 2>the hero's journey, the solo one White Savior. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're right. How does it lamb with audiences is

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<v Speaker 2>the big question? Can it make a billion dollars is

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest question? You don't think so I think it could.

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<v Speaker 2>I think doing free you can make a billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it'll make a billion dollars, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'll be in that sub billion, eight hundred million,

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred million dollar range. I do not seeing I

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<v Speaker 1>do not see it making a billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the reason that I think it has the

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<v Speaker 2>potential to touch a bill this time round is the

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<v Speaker 2>Zendea Robert Pattinson, Tom Holland kind of hype of Spider

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<v Speaker 2>Man the Odyssey and this. I think it's giving Dooon

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<v Speaker 2>a younger audience boost that we haven't seen for the

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<v Speaker 2>other ones. And I think there is a way that,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing the last one made seven hundred and fifteen, I

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<v Speaker 2>think this could touch it. But I think you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think realistically this could make eight hundred million and

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<v Speaker 2>be seen as a huge success. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 2>world where if Doomsday doesn't hit, this could touch a

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<v Speaker 2>bill because it could play over Christmas for a really

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<v Speaker 2>long time with a lot of people going to see

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<v Speaker 2>it if it is the movie that defeats Doomsday. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's likely. I think that's the underdog

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<v Speaker 2>conversation right now. But it's crazy that it's a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>On next week's episodes of X ray Vision, we're diving

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<v Speaker 1>into Christopher Nolans, The Odyssey, What and What Dragon End

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