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Speaker 1: One more day left in twenty twenty five. Been a

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Speaker 1: in the Fox Sports Radio studios in for two pros

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Speaker 1: and a cup of Joe on a day where the

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Speaker 1: college football Playoff gets back into action in the first quarterfinal.

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Speaker 1: Will be tonight. Before the ball drops, one of these

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Speaker 1: teams season will be over, that being Miami in Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: We talked about that hour one. He's Brian, Now I'm

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Speaker 1: Jason Martin. Be what's happening?

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Speaker 2: Man? Are you? Are you excited about the other Bowl

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Speaker 2: games today?

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Speaker 1: There's a couple of nice there's a couple of juicy

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Speaker 2: Like you know, there's a lot going on in people's

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Speaker 2: New Year's Eve. I get all that.

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Speaker 1: But there's a couple of games that you could watch

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Speaker 2: A couple that you know, no reason not to watch

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Speaker 3: Hey, man, I'm all over it. I love bollseason, and

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Speaker 3: I think like there's more negativity toward bull season than

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Speaker 3: these coaching changes, that you could look at it like that.

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Speaker 3: But look at last night's game USC and TCU. There

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Speaker 3: winning touchdown in overtime when it looked like TCU might

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Speaker 3: It was a great game. It's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: So I think that you could look at it and

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Speaker 3: watch the guys. I know, you could be gruff guy,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, I will say this, like some of these games

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that there's ever been a year where

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Speaker 1: I mean both those games. I mean, the Music City

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Speaker 1: You can't ask for close, closer scenarios than those, and

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Speaker 2: Then you get some good teams. You get to see

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Speaker 1: Diego Pavia maybe his last game in his eleventh season.

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Speaker 2: I know at Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 1: My wife hasked me last night if he was going

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I think we've reached the point of

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, no, listen, I see it the same way because

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it is a it is a

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, there you go. Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Like they're just like they're always prepared, they're annoying

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Speaker 1: And they were just like, that's how good your hire was, Michigan.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of when you get a recommendation

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, there was talked that you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: I mean the thing about Kyle Whittingham in this last

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Speaker 1: It's hard to see and hard to watch because of

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Speaker 1: I've done all I can do here. Let's let somebody

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Speaker 1: Let's say he is there five years, you don't think

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Speaker 3: Number eight, I would go Pete Golding. He's the errum

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Speaker 2: When I'm like, no, they don't have an interim tech.

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Speaker 3: He was for a second and then they're like, you

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Speaker 3: your list together of coaches that you trust, you can

437
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 3: very well have Kirby smart number one, Pete Golding number eight.

438
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah could matchup. Yeah, right.

439
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 3: So if you're looking at a you know, like laying

440
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 3: six and a half with the dogs, that might be

441
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 3: the way to go, might be the way to go

442
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 3: if you're breaking down the coaching matchups like this, all right,

443
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 3: so who do you have next?

444
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: Who do you have seventh in your list of trust

445
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 1: on the coaches in the college football Playoff Chris to Ball, Yeah,

446
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 1: I have the body.

447
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 2: We're together there on that.

448
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna get more interesting as we ca Yeah, dude, I.

449
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 3: Just just look at look at what's on the resume. Okay,

450
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:26,199
Speaker 3: it's not just being tight and being conservative to a fault.

451
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 3: And look at a couple of guys. I'll tell you

452
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 3: what real fast Jason. As a Dolphins fan, I was

453
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 3: pleading with the football guides in the twenty twenty draft

454
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 3: for my fins to not draft Justin Herbert. And I

455
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 3: watched every Oregon game I was in Portland. I talked

456
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 3: Ducks football the time. I watched every game, and I

457
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 3: didn't think Herbert was special at all based on how

458
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 3: Mario Christball misused him.

459
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: Dude, his final.

460
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: Year, Herbert's final year at Oregon was baffling. Like the

461
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 1: year before. He could be the number one pick, and

462
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: then he came back to school and then it was due.

463
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: This guy's gonna be a bust.

464
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I beg. It's the NFL and he's borderline like

465
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 2: rookie Pro bowler.

466
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 3: He's fantastic in the NFL. But Crystal Ball is so conservative,

467
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 3: so he coaches scared. It's so weird. As a former

468
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 3: offensive lineman, I would think it's almost like Dan Campbell

469
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 3: in a way where it's like, let's go, we're aggressive here,

470
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 3: we're gambling. It's not the way it is. And the

471
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 3: weird part about it is when they needed to be

472
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 3: conservative against Georgia Tech a couple of years ago, they

473
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 3: have the game one. All you have to do is

474
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 3: kneel on the ball and run out the clock and

475
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 3: you win. And they didn't even do that. He's like,

476
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 3: let's run some running plays over here. They fumbled, Georgia

477
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 3: Tech scores a touchdown. It was a debacle. Mario Cristobal

478
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 3: cannot be trusted whatsoever. And that doesn't mean he's destined

479
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 3: to screw everything up, but it's as far as trust goes, no,

480
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 3: you can't trust him at all.

481
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: All Right, So those two we completely agree on. I

482
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 1: feel like we probably will here too.

483
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,120
Speaker 2: But give me your number.

484
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: Six, Ryan Day, ah man, I could, I couldn't quite

485
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,479
Speaker 1: get there, but yeah, yeah, I'm not shocked.

486
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 2: I'm not shocked the way I.

487
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: Think of Ryan Day. And I'm curious who your number

488
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 3: six coach? Is in the pyramid of trust. I love

489
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 3: this a great topic. I go Ryan Day because listen,

490
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 3: even though he's coming off of a national championship last season,

491
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 3: we've seen him get tight to a fault time and

492
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 3: time and time again. Can't beat Michigan time and time

493
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 3: and time again with the much more talented team. I

494
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 3: just can't think about considering the late great bum Phillips,

495
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 3: fantastic former NFL coach, no longer with us, but he

496
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: has one of the famous quotes in all of football history.

497
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 3: He was talking about Don Shula, and he said he

498
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 3: can take his in and beat urine, and he can

499
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 3: take urine and beat his in, which means, if you

500
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 3: translate the the bum Phillip bum Phillips vernacular, here, he's

501
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 3: saying he can take your team. He can take his

502
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 3: team and beat your team, and then he could also

503
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 3: take your team and beat his team. The latter is

504
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 3: something Ryan Day is completely incapable of doing. He can

505
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 3: take his team and beat your team and just out

506
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: talent you. He cannot take your team and beat his team.

507
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 3: He can't take the lesser talented team and beat a

508
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 3: more talented team. He had a hard time doing the

509
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 3: first part of it against Michigan for years. So I

510
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 3: don't think highly of Ryan Day at all. He's way

511
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: too tight. He's way too conservative. You can feel it

512
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 3: as a team. The team gets tight in turn because

513
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 3: he's so tight. So yeah, I don't base this on

514
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 3: winning a title last season. He's got some things in

515
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 3: his favor, no doubt, But overall, no, I think it's

516
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: more so the byproduct of great talent instead of great coaching.

517
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 3: So I've got him sixth on my list of trust.

518
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: All right, So I've got maguire.

519
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's not because I think he's a bad coach.

520
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: It's just again, I don't know enough. I mean, he's

521
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: thirty five, seventeen at Texas Tech. There's nothing wrong with that.

522
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: We understand why Texas Tech is still in this thing.

523
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: We knew what they were doing before the season. I

524
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: had them in my playoff. I felt like this was

525
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: going to be an experiment that if it worked, holy cow,

526
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 1: are we gonna see. You know, at least, if you

527
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: where you have deep pockets, if you have the right

528
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: kind of enthusiasm, you're gonna see stuff like this. But

529
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't know enough about what he

530
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: looks like on this level against this kind of competition. Yeah,

531
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm not counting them out. I do have them losing

532
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: to Oregon, but I mean the defense is phenomenal.

533
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: I just don't trust the offense quite as much. He

534
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 2: might be great, I just at.

535
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: The very least I have seen Ryan Day win a championship.

536
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: I've seen him in pressure moments. That doesn't always reflect

537
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: the best on him to your point, but I just

538
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: I know a little bit more about Ryan Day to

539
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: do Joey McGuire.

540
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 3: So that's why I would put McGuire six fair Enough,

541
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: I flip flopped him. I had Joeyah fifth on my

542
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: list for basically the same reasons you're talking about, where

543
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: he's done a really good job. They've had obviously a

544
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 3: phenomenal season. I just don't know enough about him come

545
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 3: playoff time and we're gonna get some answers here. So

546
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 3: it's more so the unknown with McGuire. So that's why

547
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: I just put Ryan Day sixth and then McGuire fifth.

548
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: On my list. Yeah, so I flipped him. Yeah, No,

549
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 2: it's fair that Day at five for.

550
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: Basically the same same reasons that you laid out. He's

551
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: definitely not somebody who built the program from nothing Like

552
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: he's somebody that at the very least you could say

553
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: he was on second with a big lead towards third,

554
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: but he was probably already on third.

555
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: Base when he took that job. Hadn't done a bad job.

556
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: But you can look, I feel like there are there's

557
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: at least a handful of coaches that could be in

558
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: the same spot as he's been and done almost.

559
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 2: Exactly what he's done. That's right, So I think that's

560
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: what it is.

561
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: I just don't know that he has like distinguished himself

562
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: as this gravitating or something.

563
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 2: With the talent that they have with U.

564
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: And he has built a great staff, but you know,

565
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: you're losing a few of those guys now. So I

566
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: definitely agree with you and his decisions when it comes

567
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: to just being conservative in big games, that's a real concern. Like,

568
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: with the talent you have, you should be aggressive all

569
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: the time, it feels like to me, and he's just

570
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: not been that way. So, uh, we don't have to

571
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: belabor it just because you made good points about him.

572
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: So who do you have fourth?

573
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: Now? Is when it gets pretty interesting.

574
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I go Dan Lanning. I go with the Oregon

575
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 3: coach and listen, we're in the top half of trust,

576
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 3: so there's nothing wrong with being fort all these guys

577
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 3: are good. Yeah, I'd go with the Oregon head coach

578
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: where he's had a ton of regular season success. It's

579
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: just we haven't seen the playoff success. Obviously, they got

580
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 3: blown out of the water against Ohio State last season.

581
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 3: But what I like about Lanning is, look, he's a grinder,

582
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: and I like it's like, I like the tone that

583
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: he sets where he's he takes things personally. You know,

584
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 3: I think it was a dumb quote, but I do

585
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 3: like that he's feisty. Where, yeah, they're getting ready to

586
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 3: play Colorado last year and he's like they're fighting for clicks,

587
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: we're fighting for wins. I thought that was totally unfair.

588
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: But he's feisty. Like he's like that that yappy dog

589
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: that's a little bit bigger than the you know, he's

590
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 3: not quite a chihuahua, you know, he's like a mid

591
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 3: sized dog that's yappy and like, what's up?

592
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: You want some of this? Right?

593
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: Like that's that's Dan Lanning as a coach, and I

594
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: like that in terms of like a twelve team college

595
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 3: football playoff and trying to emerge from this take it

596
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 3: on Texas Tech. I think that serves you well overall.

597
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: It's just we got to see more playoff success. So

598
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: I'd have him fourth on my list.

599
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: Okay, so I would too, and it's mainly just because

600
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: I I want to see a couple more signature wins.

601
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: Out of his program.

602
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: Right, most of the best games I've seen him Kasher games,

603
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: they've lost.

604
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: And it's not because he's been bad.

605
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm not including the Ohio State game that was just

606
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: I was insane last year at college Football Playoff, but

607
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: like the bad with Debor's Washington teams, the Indiana loss

608
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: this season, like he's done a good job and losses,

609
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: but they've lost most of those games.

610
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: I just want to see them.

611
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: He's the guy I want to see take the next

612
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: step because I really like him.

613
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: I like the way he goes about what he does.

614
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: I like the confidence, borderline cockiness here and there, but

615
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: I think you kind of have to have a little

616
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: bit of that, and I like the way his teams play.

617
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: Him saying that we were below the standard because of

618
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: the second half against James Madison did have me roll

619
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: my eyes because it's not like the starters are in the.

620
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: Game at that point in time.

621
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: And I just think that was an overblown storyline that oh,

622
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: this is getting close. I know it's really not. But yeah,

623
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going there. But yeah, I've got Landing it

624
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: for as well.

625
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: But I like him.

626
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: This is kind of the year where like, if they

627
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: can step up win a couple of the couple of

628
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: games from here, you might have a completely different feeling

629
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: about him. But I love that the way that he's

630
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: built that program, and I like them going forward. So

631
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: but I'm with you. So I've got him at four. Yeah,

632
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: who do you have at three?

633
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 3: I went Kaylin to Bore and a couple of things

634
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 3: with this. I like Kaylin a lot. What he did

635
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: at Washington very good, got to a championship game. They

636
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: crashed and burned against Michigan, but it's it's not a

637
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 3: mortal sin to lose to a Jim Harbaugh team that

638
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: was really good that season. And I look at Kaylin,

639
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: now what I like about him. He's aggressive, man, He

640
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: is not shy of being maybe even overly aggressive. You

641
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 3: go back to the Iron Bowl against Auburn this season

642
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 3: and they're going for it on fourth and two, they

643
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: didn't take the points, they didn't take a field goal

644
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: to take the lead. They went for it on fourth

645
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: and two. If he doesn't get that first down, if

646
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 3: they don't get that first down, and somehow Auburn wins

647
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: that game, j Mart good lord, like they are ready

648
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 3: to not just get him out of town. They are

649
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 3: ready to like uh and his end and his days

650
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 3: here on earth is what they'd be ready to do.

651
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: So for him to make that gutsy of a call,

652
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 3: which was like borderline reckless, to not take the points

653
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 3: and go for it on fourth and two, it worked out.

654
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: But he is not afraid at all to be public

655
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 3: enemy number one. He's like, I think this gives us

656
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: the best chance to win. So this is the decision.

657
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: This is the call. I really respect that about him.

658
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: It's more so what he has right now. Do I

659
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: trust him with no running game, wait man, no pass rush,

660
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: with a quarterback in ty Simpson who's been good most

661
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Speaker 3: of this year.

662
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: But he's not Michael Pennock Junior.

663
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: Right, that's right, and they're overly relying on him. He's

664
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 3: been skittish, he's been inaccurate down the stretch. I don't

665
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: trust him at all in this spot, so that's a

666
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Speaker 3: big part of it as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I agree with that, and I think that's

668
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: exactly the way to talk about it is. You can't

669
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: separate in a lot of these cases, but especially in

670
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: Alabama's case, you cannot separate the coach from what he

671
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: has on that team right now. And without jam Miller,

672
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: they haven't ever run it at all. But even with

673
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: Jam they haven't been that good. The old line has

674
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: not been good, the defense has not been as advertised. Uh,

675
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: you can have them a lot in the passing game,

676
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: and then yeah, Simpson played his best early in the season.

677
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: Actually probably during the middle of the seasons, probably when

678
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: he really kind of hit his stride. But I mean,

679
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: Ryan Williams has disappeared completely on that team.

680
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: I still think Debor de Bor is just a different

681
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: kind of guy.

682
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: Like when you listen to him and stuff, you like him,

683
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: you like him, you trust him, you like the way

684
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: he's doing things. But I think that's the difference between them,

685
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: is that when you look at, uh, some of these other.

686
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: Guys, the Bor just doesn't have the horses this year.

687
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: That's right, I know, you look at you look at

688
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: that matchup with Indiana. You're like, but it's still Alabama.

689
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's Alabama in name only, it's not

690
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: this is not that same Alabama team.

691
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna hold off.

692
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Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna go to break and we'll come back

693
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: and we'll do two in one, and then I have

694
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: at least one other question I want to pose to you,

695
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: like just based on something we talked about the last

696
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: time we hosted together. So two and one, honestly, you

697
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: could say two and one, you're arguing between maybe the

698
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: two best coaches in the sport.

699
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: Period at this point. Yeah, at least I think it's arguable.

700
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: There's a couple other guys you might want to throw

701
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: in there that didn't make the College Football Playoff. Don't

702
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: want to open up wounds about notre name, but Marcus

703
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: Freeman's definitely a good coach.

704
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: No other guys, and we already talked about winning haam.

705
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: But we'll do that.

706
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: On the other side, if you've ever wanted to try

707
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: an Olympic and Paralympic sport, you should try fencing. It's fast,

708
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: it's safe, it's easy to start. Find a beginner class.

709
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: That's what's important to me because I don't know if

710
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna hand me any kind of a weapon if

711
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: it's not a very beginner class.

712
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna look into USA fencing.

713
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: Go to USA Fencing dot org slash try fencing. That's

714
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: USA Fencing dot org slash try fencing. So we're down

715
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Speaker 1: to two. Is it's Signetti or Smart that you trust

716
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: the most of the coaches remaining in the college football Playoff.

717
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Speaker 1: We will decipher that and get you an answer when

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Speaker 2: All right, two coaches left.

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00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: We ranked eight to two of the college football playoff

738
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: coaches that we trust the most, and we are down

739
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: to two.

740
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: It's Kurt Signetti and it is Kirby Smart.

741
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: What I want to know is that the anti Indiana

742
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: pro Notre Dame bias is going to come out here.

743
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: Oh man, yeah, now, Notre Dame. I'm totally cool with you.

744
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just trying to throw some fuel on

745
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: a non existent fire.

746
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: Right there you go.

747
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: I like, so, who do you have at number two?

748
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: Number two?

749
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: I went Signetti?

750
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah you did, because you're a Notre Dame hall and

751
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: we all know it.

752
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I went with Signetti for a couple

753
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 3: of reasons. One, listen, it's almost all positive. You look

754
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: at what he's done. He took over for a program

755
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 3: Jason that in the final three years before he got there,

756
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: their record was nine and twenty seven. And what has

757
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: he done? He turned him around instantaneously. First year they

758
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 3: went to the playoff. Second year they not only made

759
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 3: it back to the playoff one seed that's undefeated and

760
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 3: they have the Heisman winner. Pretty good for an encore,

761
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: right there. Yes, yes, And you could look at this

762
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: and say he doesn't have one playoff win yet, right,

763
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: And that's true. He doesn't have that, and that's one

764
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 3: of the main reasons I don't have him number one

765
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 3: on this list. But I'll tell you what. There was

766
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: one time I drove through Oklahoma and the sky was

767
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: just turning black, and I'm like, oh my gosh, this

768
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: looks like the movie Twister, Right, there's a storm coming, man, Like,

769
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: I didn't have to be a resident of Oklahoma to

770
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: know that a storm was a bruin, you know. And

771
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 3: that's how I feel about Signetti. I don't have to

772
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 3: see playoff success to know that playoff success is coming,

773
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: and a lot of it I think is coming for

774
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: him this season. So I've got him number two mostly

775
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: for great reasons. The only reason I slat him under

776
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 3: Kirby Smart, who's won two titles, is because Signetti doesn't

777
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 3: have one playoff win, So I can't put him number one.

778
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: Do you know how easy it would have been for

779
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: Indiana to have just been like, oh, that was a

780
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: good story last year. Thanks for showing up against Notre Dame.

781
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: Uh that's gonna be good for Indiana fans for the

782
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:05,959
Speaker 1: next fifty years.

783
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: And well you'll see this again.

784
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: Do you know how easy it would have been for

785
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: them to just go right on back into the background.

786
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: Oh, it would have been so easy, been so easy.

787
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: They came back. They are significantly better than they were

788
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: last year. And they were good, really good last year.

789
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: But like, this is no longer like some cute story.

790
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: This is a uh oh, we might actually have to

791
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: take this seriously for a very long time. I've got

792
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 1: Signetti number two as well. But this is my title

793
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: game in my bracket. I've got this, and it actually

794
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: comes down to it doesn't come down to the coaches,

795
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: because I trust both of them, and like we said,

796
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: I trust Debor quite a bit, Landing I trust quite

797
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 1: a bit. And I think there is a tier list,

798
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: and I think that that's probably where it stops for me.

799
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: I think at that point there's there's a drop off

800
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: before you get four to five. But there's nothing Signetti

801
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: has done wrong other than he just hasn't quite had

802
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: enough time to show me on this stage what he

803
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: can do. So we're gonna see that potentially this year.

804
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: So that obviously means we both have Kirby Smart number one.

805
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: I'll just say the biggest reason for me isn't the

806
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: fact that he's already done this a few times. It's

807
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: that his decisions as a coach, specifically even in games

808
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: this year, the Old Miss game turned because the first

809
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: time they played because he got super aggressive, he pulls

810
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: fakes out, like there's just stuff that he does where

811
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: it's just like he completely turned the momentum of that game.

812
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just because the players executed. It's because

813
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: he had the guts to trust them enough that he

814
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 1: put them in situations where it's like, hey man, we've

815
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: got to pull this thing off or this is gonna

816
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: look real bad. I just love the aggressive nature and

817
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: the craftiness, yeah, with which.

818
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: He's a very shrewd coach.

819
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: With the way that he performs on the sidelines, and

820
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: that is a rare skill.

821
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, the reasons I have him number one, it's it's

822
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 3: not just the resume and winning a couple of titles,

823
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: which obviously matters a ton, It's that his personality is

824
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: the team's personality, you know, his fingerprints are all over

825
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: this team and they just battle.

826
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: You.

827
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: Man, he is a feisty guy. He's like a bulldog.

828
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 3: He's like a bulldog coaching the Bulldogs. And that's how

829
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: they play, that's how they behave. They just will. Like

830
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: the Tennessee game, it looked like they didn't have a

831
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 3: chance to win that game, and they just keep coming

832
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 3: after you and then maybe they hit a pass and

833
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: maybe they get a stop, and maybe they're right back

834
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: in it, maybe they win it at the end of

835
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 3: the day. He's just he's phenomenal. He said it before

836
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,479
Speaker 3: this year. It's my favorite quote, We're hard to kill,

837
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 3: and Oklahoma loved it so much they ripped it off

838
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 3: of him and try to make it their whole thing.

839
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

840
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: And then also the last thing, the defense looks so

841
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: much better throughout the season. That is the trademark of

842
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 3: great coaching. They didn't just get new players, they didn't

843
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 3: go to the portal mid season. They looked really bad

844
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the year. They looked so much better.

845
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 3: They punked Alabama in the SEC title game. Their defense

846
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 3: looks so much better, And that's a trademark of great

847
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: coaching right there.

848
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