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Speaker 1: from Bozeman, Montana. We got a lot of get to

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Speaker 1: real quick. It's gonna be a different show, the different

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Speaker 1: type of show this time. Phil, you just got finished

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Speaker 1: editing the Charles Rodney Rabbit Hunt and what what can

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Speaker 1: you tell people about it. You're gonna be in the

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Speaker 1: You're gonna smell the grass. They're gonna smell the shotgun shells. Yep,

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Speaker 1: the gun passes Phil describing hunting. You're gonna smell rabbit

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Speaker 1: for on your why would you? And you'll feel the

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Speaker 1: fleas all over your body after you put a rabbit

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Speaker 1: to your face. So this is that's what this podcast is.

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Speaker 1: I went hunting, as those of you that follow me

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Speaker 1: great time. We hunted for a full day. Do we

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Speaker 1: we put it all in one day. We've shot eight

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Speaker 1: we shot ten rabbits. We ate crab cakes and fried

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Speaker 1: everybody's faces and we talked. So hopefully you'll get to

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Speaker 1: hear Charles doing his his calls to his beagles, who

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Speaker 1: get to hear gunshots. You'll get to hear the dogs

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Speaker 1: It is an audio experience like none other if you're there,

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Speaker 1: And then I sat down with Charles and his buddy

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey to recap the hunt and talked about Charles's life now.

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Speaker 1: Charles talks about his dress. He dresses to the nines

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Speaker 1: and it's one of the most His wife would take

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Speaker 1: they'd show me his outfits and it is unbelievable. So

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Speaker 1: I try to find if he's nice, if Charles is

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Speaker 1: he talks about that in this episode. So that's what

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Speaker 1: you're gonna hear. But last episode, we promised you that

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Speaker 1: we would announce the winner of the Turkey Call Contest

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Speaker 1: from episode one hundred. I want to do one a

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Speaker 1: congratulations to A B. Rich on last week's epic victory

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Speaker 1: in the draw Phil contest. Phil, you're still riding high?

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Speaker 1: Yeah it was, I mean so many entries. A B

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Speaker 1: Um and I still have a lot hanging on the

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Speaker 1: feel proud. Everybody out there that Drew Phil should feel

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Speaker 1: except for the one that you wanted to win. Who

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Speaker 1: was that? Dave Campbell. Dave Campbell Campbell feel proud. Dave

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Speaker 1: Campbell a legend. I In fact, I had somebody on

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Speaker 1: man Um. I hope he wins another one of our contest.

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Speaker 1: But this Turkey Call content is important for a lot

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Speaker 1: of reasons. Turkey season is coming up. But before we

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Speaker 1: I did sick. So wait, are you trying to reprimand

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Speaker 1: hard for me to punish. You didn't infect me, which

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Speaker 1: as it would be. Um. I was in Maryland, Honey

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Speaker 1: come out. And Phil called me and he sounded awful,

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Speaker 1: I mean awful, and he had what you have? Flu

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Speaker 1: Uh So, I said, Phil, you know, take a couple

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Speaker 1: did get a lot of you sent your well wishes

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, via message or stories. I appreciated it. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It really lifted Phil up. He wouldn't be here today

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Speaker 1: without that spiritual uplift. No, I would have quit. He

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Speaker 1: was gonna be mean to you at all about this, Phil,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pap your fault. Apologize to the listeners

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Speaker 1: for having to wait to two more days for the show.

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Speaker 1: As as a positive you get two podcasts and like

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Speaker 1: what five days. Yeah, we're making up for making up

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Speaker 1: for uh, And you get Charles Rodney, which is the

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Speaker 1: we're gonna pay you back with that. But for we

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Speaker 1: go to Charles Rodney. We had a contest to do

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Speaker 1: a turkey call with your mouth or just whatever God

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Speaker 1: like ten different ones. We're not gonna We're just gonna

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Speaker 1: The winner was so far in ahead of the other

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Speaker 1: what you're gonna win? What are you gonna win? Your

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Speaker 1: We'll give you a t HC. Yetti Tumbler as well

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Speaker 1: for winning this one. So the winner you still got

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Speaker 1: He wrote in with a great email but also a

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Speaker 1: The Hunting Collective. I've been O'Brien and I'm out hunting

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Speaker 1: What kind of uh bark are you listening for? These dogs?

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Speaker 1: And how many dogs we have, Charles, how many we

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Speaker 1: Good boys, good boys, good shooting rabbing number four on

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Speaker 1: My shot was only for appearances, Charles, I basically shot

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Speaker 1: bush I've ever shot. Boone and Crockett bush. All right, Charles, gil,

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Speaker 1: do you give us a hunt update. How are we doing?

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Speaker 1: for a good reason. Now we're getting it, Charles. Why

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Speaker 1: is there something like the deep like the sound that

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Speaker 1: here's Charles Rodney, who how he's hunted this far many times? Right?

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Speaker 1: They will not, they said, right on that rabbit. They

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Speaker 1: of them grabbing number six, raping number six, Charles. That's it,

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Speaker 1: tell us a story. You got he got us, escape,

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Speaker 1: you right in a minute. Charles Rodney just back in

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Speaker 1: very good dogs, good bloodlines. So so I have good dogs.

426
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: If those who don't know you have. We had had

427
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: six beagles right today. It was six males and their

428
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: names were you got them all rememorized. Oh, I got

429
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: the two best dogs, Hank and Rattler. Then I have

430
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: Blue and Bozo and Sam and Buckshot. So six six

431
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: we got Jeffrey with its say hey Jeffrey, Hey there

432
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: are I'm doing great? Uh couldn't be really doing better

433
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: if I tried. And you're one of like Charles has

434
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: an odd way of bringing people into his orbit, into

435
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: his rabbit hunting universe. If you if it were like

436
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: the just the person that he is and the way

437
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: that he does this like, there's a lot of people

438
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: that know Charles, a lot of people that would like

439
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: to know Charles. I'm sure. So could you tell us

440
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: how you came to know the rabbit Man? Yeah? Yeah,

441
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: I was here for a Congressional Caucus meeting and one

442
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: of the individuals there told me, because they knew I

443
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: hunted a lot, they asked me if I wanted to

444
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: attend the UH Congressional Sportsman Foundation banquet luncheon auction that

445
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: they had. So I did, and during that time, Charles

446
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: and I kind of saw each other from a fall

447
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: and just kind of migrated over towards each other just

448
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: to meet, and just so happened. I Um. He was

449
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: telling me where he's from and a little bit about

450
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: his background, and I made the statement and I said, well,

451
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm from Tennessee. You probably don't know the city, but

452
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: it's called Muffisboro, Tennessee. And he looked at men. He

453
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: said really, he said, I know Muffisborough. He said, my

454
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: daughter and son in law live in Muffisboro. And so

455
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: that's where uh it started. And from then on I

456
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: become friends with his UH daughter son in law, and

457
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: Charles and I have stayed in contact. As a matter

458
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: of fact, since that time, I've tried to make my

459
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: way to Maryland every year since that time to hunt

460
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: with him, and I really really respect. You know, some

461
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: people can talk to you and they kind of tell

462
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: you about their background and you kind of believe half

463
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: of it. But with Charles, you believe that plus more.

464
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: I've rabbit hunted all my life, but beating Charles. Number

465
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: one thing he'll He'll always say is let's be safe.

466
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: The second thing is let's have a good time. And uh,

467
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: it's the memory that he has from the hunts is

468
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: just amazing. Charles, What's up with that? How did you?

469
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: Where did you get this memory? Do you always have

470
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: this memory of other things in life? Charles can remember

471
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: every rabbit that he's ever shot at. I was not

472
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: even not a joke. Oh. I always had a great memory,

473
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: even as a child. And I can remember hunts. I

474
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: can remember people. I can remember the shots. I write

475
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: articles and I can fifteen twenty rabbits, and I can

476
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: say who shot the first one, the second one, how

477
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: it happened, how many shots. I remember it even though

478
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: we're hunting and we're going through the process. But I've

479
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: always had this memory even as a kid. I wrote

480
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: an autobiography three or maybe five years ago. I remembered

481
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: things prior to kindergarten. Now we're talking. I'm seventy years old,

482
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: so we're talking four and five years oh. And I

483
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: gave a copy to a friend of mine who's now

484
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: about eighty nine. He said, I've read a lot of

485
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: things in my time. And he's a retired school teacher,

486
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: and he said, but I never heard of nobody remembering

487
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: stuff from kindergarten. And I have that knack. And when

488
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: things go on in the family, they asked me, do

489
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: you remember such and such and such and such. I said, yeah, yeah,

490
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: I remember, and I can repeat things back, and I write.

491
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: I write these stories, and I write a lot of

492
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: little comments. I write a Christmas a letter to the family.

493
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: It's it's not a Christmas celetta anymore. It's it. I

494
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: didn't write one last year, but I'm gonna write something

495
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: this summer. And it was six pages of activities and

496
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: things and people and so forth. So from yeah, just

497
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: from that year. And I have the memory about the

498
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: hunt the weather. And one guy said, man, you remember

499
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: everything before we even had the last cup of coffee,

500
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: and that's just the way it goes. So and so

501
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: if somebody is hunting with me and I write about

502
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: the story and they said I didn't miss that many

503
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: I said, believe me, if I write it, you did

504
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: miss it. So that's true. The first time I hunted

505
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: with you was here at the sact same property, and

506
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: then he sent me a magazine. I was probably better

507
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: beagling yes with see, I remember that. See I'm learning

508
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: um with all the details. And I was like, I

509
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: didn't see this guy writing anything down. I thought, there's

510
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: no way you could remember in this final detail without

511
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: writing it down. You had it all like play by

512
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: play of the entire hunt laid out. Boom boom, boom boom.

513
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: I think I think you asked me, do I take

514
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: notes in the fielding? How are you gonna take notes

515
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: with a shotgun in your hand, calling commands to the dogs,

516
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: watching for the rabbits. That's maybe you were going off

517
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: behind the bushes it take notes with a tape of

518
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 1: the note? What I do? I remember it, and then

519
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: when I get home, I make some cryptic notes one

520
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: or two words on a tablet, maybe within a da too.

521
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: And then later on I come back and I feel

522
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: it in and then I describe. I describe what the

523
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: weather was like, what the cover was like, what the

524
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: terrain was like, who what gun somebody was carrying, and

525
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: so forth, and what the dogs did on the first

526
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: rabbit and so forth and tail we ended well well,

527
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: hopefully if we do this right after, people will just

528
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 1: have listened to parts of our hunt. They'll hear the dogs,

529
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: they'll hear shotguns. Are you know a bit of an

530
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: audio experience of kind of what we went through today,

531
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: And what they'll also here is you're yelling and screaming

532
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: like a mad person at your dogs. And you probably

533
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: describe that on the show before. But for those who

534
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: are uneducated, you should probably stop and go back and

535
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: listen to the other two Charles Rodney podcasts from the

536
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: Hunting Collective and then maybe the best of volume one

537
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: where you were also there. Any of those you go

538
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: listen to, So stop right, We'll wait for you to

539
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: do that, and we'll come back in a second and

540
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: we're back. Um, now, you know all about Charles Rodney,

541
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: so I don't have how to tell you anything. You

542
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: know he hunts with beagles, and you know that he

543
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: he has specific things that he says to them to

544
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: get them acting the way he wants that wants them

545
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: to act. So people have heard that. Now, tell how

546
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: did you develop that was the first time you started

547
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: using those sounds. Well, when you when you have beagles

548
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: and you raise beagles, and you run beagles, and you

549
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: train beagles and you hunt with beagles, there is a

550
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: command between the owner um and the dogs. They understand

551
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: that language. And different different owners, different owner of beagles

552
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: who are hunting use different commands when you're calling them

553
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: and when you're telling them to get in the grass

554
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: and you're telling them to go in the briars and

555
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: to get in the briars, they understand it. And they

556
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: are bred to do this. This is what they live for,

557
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: to go into bushes and the chase rabbits. So I

558
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: give them the command. I said, come on there, get

559
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: in there, find them, jump in there. Come on, and

560
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: I'll call one by name, Come on, Hank Rattler, come

561
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: on Blue, get in there, find him, find him. And

562
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 1: they're searching. They're searching. They're searching, and they're going under

563
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: under briars, over tree logs, and and when one of

564
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: them hit that right scent, the others know that the

565
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: scent is true and the chase is on. And then

566
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: if we see a rabbit, or we shoot at a

567
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: rabbit and we miss him, uh, I call him over.

568
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: And you gotta call him with a with a straight voice,

569
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: with a cadence, with intensity in your voice, because they're

570
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: in excitement. Because if you just call him, say here,

571
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: come here, they're not gonna come. But if you call

572
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: him in the excitement, say come on here, there gonna

573
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: watch him, watch him. He's over here, come on, get

574
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: him up, get him up, find him, find him. He's

575
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: over here, come on, come on. And they're rushing through

576
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: the brush and they come over and they hit that

577
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: scent and the chase is back on. Now. Of course,

578
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: when you're hunting and we shoot the rabbit, we yelled

579
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: dead rabbit, they understand that too. They followed the scent

580
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: line to the down rabbit. You let him sniff the rabbit.

581
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: They see the rabbit, they get they sometimes they pick

582
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: it up, or a couple of them try to bite it.

583
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: A couple of them just look at it, and they

584
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: know the hunt for that rabbit is over and they've

585
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown and it's time now to go and

586
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: score another touchdown. I was gonna was gonna say it's

587
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: time how to do a celebration dance. Yeah, well the

588
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: celebration or scoring a touchdown, because if they don't see

589
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: that rabbit down, they think it's still up and they

590
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: continue to search. So that's why I tell the hunters,

591
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: when you shoot a rabbit, let him lay down until

592
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: they come or pick it up and hold it and

593
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: shake it over there over their faces, uh a little bit,

594
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: and they see it and then they know it's down

595
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: and they move on and they continue to search the brush,

596
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: and you get up the next one and the next

597
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: one and repeat the process. So we did wait ten

598
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: times today. So Jeffrey, we gotta go back to you

599
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: because you're a rabbit hunter. We're talking about today, like

600
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: I wonder how many rabbit hunters are out there, Well,

601
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: you gotta be. You gotta separate two periods of time

602
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: prior to Charles Rodney being known and then post Charles Rodney,

603
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: because there's been I'm aware of a rise and rabbit

604
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: hunting since Charles Rodney had been has been on the podcasts.

605
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: It's a do you know about this? I've heard people

606
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: say that and you know, there are probably numbers and

607
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: a lot of people. There's a line graph somewhere there.

608
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: There's probably a line graph somewhere, and a lot of

609
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: people thank me. They say, uh, we want to thank

610
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: you for what you're doing for rabbit hunting. Well, it

611
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: didn't start out that week. I'm just a passionate guy

612
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: who loves rabbit hunting. It's all I hunt, Okay, I

613
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: I talk rabbit hunting all the time, and so this

614
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: is what I do, and to promote rabbit hunting. I

615
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: did not go out with the intentions of promoting rabbit hunting,

616
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: but it came. It came to me. I started right

617
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 1: and I started meeting people, meeting people like Phil Hoon

618
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: and Jeff Crane and a whole bunch of other people

619
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: who invited me into their world. And then they introduced

620
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: me to other people, and these other people who are

621
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: avid hunters themselves and outdoor people and in many other

622
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: capacity and they want to hunt. So now the promotion

623
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: is on about rabbit hunting. And those who come to

624
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: rabbit hunting said, man, I hadn't noticed stuff was this

625
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: much fun. I've hunted all over the world, and but

626
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: they've hunting all sorts of big animals, dear elk moves, uh, caribou,

627
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: and a lot of waterfowl hunters. One guy told me,

628
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: he said, you have to tell me how to shoot down.

629
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm always shooting in the air because he's shooting at

630
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: pheasants and birds. So he said, Uh, you gotta tell

631
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: him what to look. I said, well, it's just like

632
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: a duck coming in you. You you gotta watch him running,

633
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: you lead him and so forth, and know your target.

634
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,919
Speaker 1: Don't shoot in the grass, shot heads off, rabbits don't. Yeah,

635
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: you gotta lead him. You gotta lead him. Those those

636
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: guys today, uh left just the ears on him. So

637
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: it was not my intention to promote rabbit hunting, but

638
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: I enjoy promoting it. If if somebody want to call

639
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: me the unofficial ambassador of rabbit rabbit hunting, that is fine.

640
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm just doing what I'm passionate about in the promotion

641
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: of it. It enhances the conservation and enhancement of getting

642
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: more people out in the field, and that's just great.

643
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: I know. I love it. Well, Jeffrey, you're one of

644
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: those people, right, and you just describe meeting Charles and

645
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: being a rabbit hunter yourself but you know, how did

646
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: you come to rabbit hunting, because there's not I mean

647
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: when we think of hunting culture, being a rabbit hunter

648
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: per se, just saying that's what I am is not

649
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: something that you hear A lot of people say. My dad,

650
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: uh started us. My brother and I who was My

651
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: brother was a year older than than I was. My

652
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: dad started us in the tenth grade. He bought us

653
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: a gun and basically kind of took us out with him.

654
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: He always hunted and had beagles, and he took us

655
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 1: out with him, and that's how we basically got started.

656
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: And uh, even after he passed, we did a little

657
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: bit of hunting. But hunting and rabbit hunting in Tennessee

658
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: has really gone down a lot, not just with the building,

659
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: but you just don't have people to trap the predators

660
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: like you do uh here, and I see there's being

661
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: a big difference. So when I went to Mississippi in

662
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, I did some rabbit hunting as well.

663
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: But again it's going down. But when I met Charles

664
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: who was like, you mean, you guys have that many rabbits.

665
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: You have rabbits there in Maryland. And when I asked

666
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: people and tell people in tenn and see, Hey, I'm

667
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: going to Maryland and hunt. They said, they still hunt

668
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: now until the see they do have a lot of

669
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: field trials, but those are in controlled environments control pins,

670
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: but here it's just a lot different. On the way here,

671
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: I was, I had my bags and I had my

672
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: my gun case and all my bags, and some some

673
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: guys stopped me, where are you going? What are you?

674
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: What are you going home from? He just assumed I

675
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: had been hunting in Montana, So no, I live here.

676
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to hunt rabbits. He's gonna go like you

677
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: get on a plane to go hunt rabbits. And I

678
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: said yeah, And he looked down at the tag on

679
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: my bag. He was Baltimore, because you're going to Baltimore

680
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: to hunt rabbits. Yeah, I said, yeah. Decided I just

681
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: want to leave it at that. I don't want to

682
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: give him any more details. I wanted him to walk

683
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: away confused, like what Baltimore for? Rap? I hope you

684
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: didn't give him my phone? Not you want to know

685
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: a man a rabbit man. This is the guy. But

686
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: it is it is interesting how those two things come together.

687
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: And like I said, Charles, there's so many people. You've

688
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: told stories that lunch today about guys you met just

689
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: randomly tell sorry about that year old guy you're telling

690
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: me about it lunch. It's just another example somebody that's

691
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: kind of like coming to your orbit and then they

692
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: get attracted to you, like like gravity. People people come

693
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: to me and they're asking me, and they heard about me,

694
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: and they they want to meet me. And folks want

695
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: to go rabbit hunting. And I said, well, my wife

696
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: always say I'll remember you one person. You can only

697
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: spread yourself so thin. And I turned people down. And

698
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: just eight or nine days ago, five people contacted me

699
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: who I met, some I new, and a couple of

700
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: new guys I met, and they want to go rabbit honey. Well,

701
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: a couple of them. I told him, I can't do

702
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: anything this year. The season and my schedule is filled,

703
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: so a couple of guys it will be maybe next

704
00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: year and so forth. But people are asking. And I

705
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: do charity auctions for a variety of sportsmen's group and

706
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: in each of those group, I don't charge. In each

707
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: of those groups, I hunt with many members of those groups,

708
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: and some new people always approached me. Now a lot

709
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: of those guys are just talkers. Some of them have

710
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: never called me, and a lot of them do call me.

711
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 1: And most of these people have either land, they owned

712
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: the lease, or they have access to properties. But you

713
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: asked me about a nine year old man that I

714
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: met four years ago. I was coming from running my

715
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: dogs and I told my wife I would always see

716
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: this house on the side of this road with a

717
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: big field of green's colored green kale rape, turn of

718
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: sweet potatoes throughout the year, and I never stopped. So

719
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: I tell I'm gonna be a little bit longer because

720
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to knock on the door. And I went

721
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: snocked on the door, and this man came out. We

722
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: stood on the porch. I asked him who on the property.

723
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: He said, I do. He's everything's fifty cents a pound.

724
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: Their bags over the pick. I won't know to know, sir.

725
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't want any greens. I just stopped to see

726
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: who owned them. I'm gonna come back in a week

727
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: with some other people who want something. So he said,

728
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: what are you doing. I said, I'm running dogs, beagles.

729
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: He said to any good. I said, yes, sir. He

730
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: said he chases there. I said, no, sir. In ten

731
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: minutes we've never seen each other before. I was sixty

732
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: six at the time and he was ninety one at

733
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: the time. He said, I'm ninety one, and if the

734
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: good Lords say the same, come this fall. I want

735
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: to go rabbit hunt with you. Now. We just met

736
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: in ten minutes and we talked and I said, well,

737
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: I said, his name is Guy Hole. I said, Mr Hall,

738
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: you know we need some land to go hunting on.

739
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: That's the only thing. He said, don't worry about the land.

740
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: I got plenty of land. So December I called him

741
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: and he said, give me two days notice, we'll go.

742
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: So I said, Mr Hall, you know those guys are

743
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: hunting deer and they don't like us in there with

744
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: those dogs with the deer. He said, Charles, it's my land.

745
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: We can hunt whatever we want to, when we want to.

746
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,479
Speaker 1: All I could say was yes, sir. And when I left,

747
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: I said to myself, none but Jesus put us together

748
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: on that particular day, and today we are friends. He

749
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: made ninety two on the twenty second, and I turned

750
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: seventy on the eleventh of February. He's he's on the

751
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: twenty second of February, and I turned seventy on the

752
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: February eleven and last year, this man still raised a

753
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: big garden. He raised four hundred and fifty bushels of

754
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: three varieties of sweet potatoes, and he still plows them.

755
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 1: I went over and help him pick potatoes. We should

756
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: we should pause there for just a moment to appreciate

757
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: the fact. If you're out there and me, I'm thirty four,

758
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, shit, I don't think I did that much

759
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: work all year last year, let alone in one season

760
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: to pick that many potato. You won over and helped

761
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: him pick. I help him pick. He has grandson's great grandson.

762
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 1: The neighbors, their friends, there's a whole bunch of people

763
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: looked in on him as a fellow with a construction business,

764
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: and they were not working that day building. So he

765
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: and one of his workers came over and they picked potatoes,

766
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: and I picked potatoes, and and he sells them all

767
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: twenty dollars a bushel. He sells them all. This man

768
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: is active. He still drives, He still go to church

769
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: every Sunday. He goes bird hunting on on one of

770
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: to preserve. He is just a walking legend, a miracle,

771
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: and he's super super nice man. And I wrote a

772
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: story about him with his pitching Better Beagling about two

773
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: years ago. Go pick up better Beagling by the way. Um,

774
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 1: it's just like I said, another example, it's the Church

775
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: of Rabbit Hunting. That's what I That's what we always

776
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: say here we are, so we gotta tell the stories

777
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: about today because that's really everybody's already kind of heard

778
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: some of the sounds and from being out in the

779
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: field and doing what we do. Of course, if I

780
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 1: do it right, and um, I think that each rabbit,

781
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: like we tell you shoot it, you shoot it a rabbit, right, um,

782
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: and you tell the story of immediately after that happens. Right,

783
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: you shoot the rabbit, then you replay the events immediately

784
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,479
Speaker 1: and then you remember it for the next thirty probably years.

785
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: But but we shot ten rabbits today, Um, you got

786
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: The most memorable one was probably the one that me,

787
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: you and I bust like thirty of m oh trying

788
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: to get so you want to tell people storry about.

789
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: That was like maybe the fifth rabbit we killed or something.

790
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: I think that was the number eight one. We were

791
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: we were we were quitting, we were quitting, and this

792
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: rabbit we were in in the middle of this little

793
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: wooded area kind of like a little bottom like it.

794
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: It kind of got a little high top on both side,

795
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: and in the bottom there's a lot of vines and

796
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: bushes and stuff. And always sell the fellas to kick

797
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: those little piles, little piles of leaves or twigs or

798
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: branches because rabbits. So I walked over and I stepped on,

799
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: and this rabbit took off. I thought one of the

800
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: guys from you saying Boat or Bob, he's the guys

801
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: who were known as the world fastest human being took off. Well.

802
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: I threw one at him, and he ran, and the

803
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: dogs got on him, and one dog saw him and

804
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: he ran down, and he came back among some twigs,

805
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: and I saw him in the distance twice, and I

806
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: put two on him, and I thought I had him,

807
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: so I let up, and he was still running. He ran,

808
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 1: and that's where my twelve gage mother be ben Ben shot.

809
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: He said he killed a tree anymore, And the rabbits

810
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: stopped going up an incline, and I threw another one

811
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: on him, and I said, he's hurt. But he was

812
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: still running and the dogs were on him. They were

813
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: on that scent hot. He ran across a little dirt

814
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 1: road and down another little bottom, and Ben saw him

815
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: standing on top of some little, little small trees that

816
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: was stacked up, and he couldn't run any further, so

817
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: he went between the trees and the dogs ran over

818
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: the and I had him. When we picked him up

819
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: boat back legs were broken and this rabbit was running

820
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: on just on the two fronts. So we we we

821
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: left some lead in the field. But when your hunt

822
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: with me, there are no scared shells. That's right, we didn't.

823
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: I were going to leave him in the pocket. I

824
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: knew I was going to hit that tree, but I

825
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: figured why not that he's gonna be fine. There are

826
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: no scared shells. They make plenty, plenty more, and we'll

827
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: keep the shell business people in business. Thanks Federal Premium

828
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: sponsoring our program. We keep you in business because we

829
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 1: were gonna shoot. Now, Jeffrey, you had you and I

830
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: both made miraculous head shots. I wouldn't say miraculous because

831
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: we knew what we were doing. Both of us knew

832
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: exactly what we were doing at the time, but you

833
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: could describe we had I think the one that you

834
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: shot in that last hedgerow. You know, we know that

835
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 1: Charles will remember, But was that the one that was

836
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: had escaped our grasp and was running up and down

837
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: the did we think he was? I think at the

838
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: end we had like three dad had escaped and one

839
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,479
Speaker 1: had gone down and Charles had made a long shot

840
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: at him, and we thought they were going down the hill.

841
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: But just so happened, one came back and I saw

842
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: him going in. So I hollered, did Charles to hey,

843
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: we think we saw a rabbit here. He said, okay,

844
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: hold on for a second. And when he came back,

845
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: he brought the Charles brought the dolls back up. He

846
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: put the dogs exactly where I told him that the

847
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: rabbit had gone in. Well, just so happened. Not only

848
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: did one rabbit came out come out, two rabbits came out,

849
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 1: And that's when one went up the hill a little

850
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: bit and Charles got on he got the dogs on him,

851
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: and as he was coming back down, he basically almost stopped.

852
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: And that's why I shot him right and just clean head,

853
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: clean off. And that's as we were eating rabbits and

854
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: you you're cleaning them, I mean, that's the shot you want.

855
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: Because we had a lot of broken legs. We had

856
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, if you want a lot

857
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: of rabbit meat, you can't be although I was slinging

858
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 1: a twelve gage at him. But when we clean, when

859
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: we clean, all of the rabbits um. Only a few

860
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: had pellets in the in the stomach, going the bodies.

861
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: Most of them were clean shots. There were very few

862
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: pellets in the rabbit and I'd say nine of the

863
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: meat was hardly untouched. Some of the rabbits died from

864
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: just one or two pellets. So we did some clean

865
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: shooting today. Yep. And that's what I said before before

866
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: we started, like, well, we gotta get a bunch of

867
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: stuff done. Content, We gotta make content. But ten rabbits

868
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: would be great. And we ended up with ten damn rabbits.

869
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: Exactly what, And that's a good day of shooting. We

870
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: only hunted for like five hours. That's that's good. We

871
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: we got three up early and then we had a

872
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: dry spell where we didn't hit anything for a while

873
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: all and then later on the next five were running

874
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: and we had some good long runs. There's there's some

875
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: water in a section with a with a nice little

876
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: ditch full of water, maybe about twelve feet wide, and

877
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: they crossed it a couple of times, and they went

878
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: in some bottom because we could tell because the dogs

879
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: came back all muddy, and they stuck. They stuck with

880
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: them and they ran them. And then plus today a

881
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: number of deer got up in front of the dogs.

882
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: These dogs don't run deer. Uh. You can put them

883
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: in the pin with a with a deer and they

884
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: won't bother it. And they stayed true on the rabbit scent.

885
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: They had a couple of long runs, very long runs

886
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 1: twice in a circle that when I shot in the head,

887
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: they crossed must across the road four times at least,

888
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, because we had a kind of a brushy bottom.

889
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: And then it came up into a grassy, kind of

890
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: crp looking field, and this rabbit kept darting down into

891
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: the bottom into the brush, and then he dart back

892
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: into the field and he'd serpentine and you go back

893
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: in and and I positioned myself where I thought the

894
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: dogs are gonna push him to and he came right

895
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: out perfect, and he kind of came too close, so

896
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: I had to pause and let him run a little

897
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: bit so hot, and so I didn't use the twelve

898
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 1: cage too, dismember him right there. But those dogs work hard.

899
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're gonna rest good tonight there. Right now.

900
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: I carried either outside sleeping, but they got back on.

901
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: It was we went to lunch and they took a

902
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: nice little nap or cs to there, and then we

903
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 1: got back in there, right back on it. Man. The

904
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: our last hour of light today, we got on just

905
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: one I guess you gotta hedgerow er fence row that's

906
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 1: probably ten twelve ft wide. It's all brush briar patch basically,

907
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: and we what do we run three rabbits out of

908
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: here at least? And got two out of there. We

909
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: shot a lot times, and if it was if we

910
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: still had more light, we could have flushed back because

911
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: it was getting dark and we needed to come in

912
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: and clean up the rabbits and do some other little chores.

913
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: But we could have found that other one. They would

914
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: have They would have found him. If I would have

915
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: called some cadence and called him over, they would have

916
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: found him and we would have got him up. Because

917
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: they hunt with that intensity. They aim to please. They

918
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: do that. They do they to please you guys, and

919
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: you guys have like the specific dialect the way of talking,

920
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: like the tonality that like the sounds to make to

921
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: make them excited, to get them back in the game,

922
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: because they're just like us. Sometimes they get to they

923
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: get to be a little bit lack a days cool,

924
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: you're not seeing any rabbits. Here's execut through the brush

925
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: gets a little boring. The next thing you know, Charles

926
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: comes up and gives you give me one of your

927
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 1: patented yips ape ape come on in once. They once

928
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: they get that that next rabbit, they have been re

929
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: energized and they want to find another one. But when

930
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: we went through that dry spell after we killed the

931
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: first three, they look kind of lack of days ago.

932
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: They were hustling. They wasn't finding anything. So it's lack

933
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: in any any part of life. If if you keep

934
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: doing something and you're not successful atty, maybe get a

935
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 1: little frustrated. And they always tell you keep trying, keep trying.

936
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: It's going to change. And a little while later they

937
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: had a rabbit up and they were re energized. And

938
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: then the next thing you know, we got five more rabbits.

939
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: Saying they had some long runs up and down. I

940
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: was saying earlier, you could be a motivational. You're like,

941
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: go to people's offices when they're having a bad like

942
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: right after lunch when they're kind of lagging, and just

943
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: give them just go to wake now, wakeme U, wakeme on. Yeah,

944
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: that's right, because I think I can make some money

945
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: doing this. I do. I do think you could. I'd

946
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: pay you to come then just hang out with me

947
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: every once in a while. You see me fading, you

948
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: see me maybe not hitting that email right away, just

949
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: give me a me a little yipee. Give me. What

950
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: would you do if I was I was just I'm

951
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: just working, you will become from a lack of days

952
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: the co worker to one of the best employees. I'm

953
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: just thinking, maybe this is a circuit you go on.

954
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: You'd like just get in the room with a thousand

955
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: people and just yell at a walk around, put a

956
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: couple on a leash, those hard hand ones. I can

957
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: always put the garment col on to shock him anyway.

958
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: But that's true. I mean, like there's a there's a

959
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: those dogs have they're in sync with you in a way.

960
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: And and Jeffrey to Jeffrey has I was talking with

961
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: the other guy that was something with us. Who's whose

962
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: house and property. This is Phil. I was like, I

963
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: can't make that noise. I can't. You know. Jeffrey comes

964
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: in and he has a certain tone that those dogs

965
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: they click with and they go right to and I'm

966
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: sure that's just learned and I'm I was like, come

967
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: over here, dogs. They won't respond to that. And I

968
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: think it says as Charles mentioned earlier, I think you

969
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: have to get very intense because that's the moment that

970
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: you're just not saying, come here, come here. You You

971
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: have to get loud and get intense, and that excites

972
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: the dog so that gets them to come in towards you.

973
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: When you gotta when you call him, you gotta use enthusiasm,

974
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: okay to call him. Hunting with a fella in Virginia

975
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: about three years ago. Never met this man before. He

976
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: came with a friend and he's a hunter. He hunts

977
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: all sorts of things and we killed six rabbit that

978
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: they on. The six rabbit rabbit. He saw the rabbit

979
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: get up in front of him and he called the

980
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: dogs and they responded. It wasn't these dogs. There was

981
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: another group of dog. Hank was the only one in

982
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: that group at that time, and he called them and

983
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: they came over and they got on the scent and

984
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: his name was Justin. I said, Justin, we just met

985
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: this morning. I did get them dogs to come over

986
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: and respond to you like that, he said, I was

987
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: paying attention to you on the mother rabbits and I

988
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: did just what you did. I see, well it worked

989
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: and we just met maybe three hours early. So there

990
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: you go. There you learn by watching. I definitely my

991
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: my my instincts always is just because other times I've

992
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: hunted behind dogs, you know, hunted behind dogs for mountain

993
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: lions or bears. One time, Um, you want to be

994
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: on the dogs. If you can't, you got collars on

995
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: them and you're tracking them so you can be as

996
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: close to them as possible when they get on them,

997
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: either tree or bear or treat or whatever. So that's

998
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: my natural instinct is to get on those dogs and

999
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: get right on them and follow them and see what

1000
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: they're seeing. But that's not exactly how it works, right.

1001
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you can you're doing that, but you're those

1002
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: rabbits are gonna circle back or they're gonna go on

1003
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: a different path. And if you're right with the dogs,

1004
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: you're probably not right with the rabbit, because that damn rabbit,

1005
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: as we saw today, is a couple hundred yards ahead

1006
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: of you doing something different. Rabbit. That rabbit is running

1007
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: on a straight away. One of the rabbits that we lost,

1008
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: he was at least fifty two hundred yards in front

1009
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: of the dogs, and he circled around us, and he

1010
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: ran through some water and mud, and they tracked him

1011
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: and then they lost him. They don't usually lose him,

1012
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: but this rabbit is one deserve to live. So you

1013
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: have to pay attention. You gotta be attentive, and you

1014
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: gotta let the dogs do their work because that's what

1015
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: they trained for. And you gotta stand still and not

1016
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: talking and not talking on the cell phone. Next year,

1017
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna burn cell phones from my hunts

1018
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: all I mean. But yeah, that's fine. I was just

1019
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: on my cell phone just when you were talking. We're

1020
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: talking to me. I was trying to well, we're not

1021
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: in the field, you know. But that's for you. You

1022
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: go around on the street and yellow people for using

1023
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: their phone. Usually usually when the cell phone ring or

1024
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: somebody's on the phone. It's when that rabbit is right

1025
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: near them. They haven't They have a way about him.

1026
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: I was doing. I don't know what. I wasn't on

1027
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: my phone, but I was kneeling down doing something, looking

1028
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: at something, looking at praying for a rabbit. I don't

1029
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: know what I was doing, but it wasn't productive. I

1030
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: was thinking about something other than rabbit hunting. And I

1031
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: was like digging in the dirs, I don't know, like

1032
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: a little kid. And I look up and there's like,

1033
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: there's a rabbit. I think I could have been doing

1034
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: a million things. That's how they do it. Man. What's

1035
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: what was the saying that, uh, a good rabbit will

1036
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: make it? What's a bad hunter looked good on rabbit?

1037
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: A rabbit will make the best hunter and the best

1038
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: shot look bad on your best date. Pay attention. He

1039
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: doesn't have those big guys and those big long ears

1040
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: for nothing. He can see that orange. He can see

1041
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: when you move, and he can hear you. If I

1042
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: can hear you from fifty feet away talking, that rabbit

1043
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: can hear you at a hundred yards and he will

1044
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: not come in your direction. He will go in another direction.

1045
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: It's called survival. And then he's using his stealth, his speed,

1046
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: and his camouflage because everything else is brown in the

1047
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: field and he's blending in and he'll run right by you.

1048
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: So you have to pay attention that you do. Now,

1049
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: we didn't take a quick break from rabbit hunt to

1050
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: talk about pies, because you make good pies and you

1051
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: gotta kind of you have secrets for pies just to

1052
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: describe people. This is your hidden talent. Well, I got

1053
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: a lot of talents. Okay, I make, I make, I make.

1054
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: My wife said it's to die for a lemon meringue pie,

1055
01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: and they just had I made one on and we

1056
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: brought it over for us to eat, and I try

1057
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: and get it right. A lot of people, mainly a

1058
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,439
Speaker 1: lot of the church members want the pies. They love

1059
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: the pies. They fight over the pies, but the little

1060
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: ottle ladies and they'll pay me for them, and they

1061
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: get to argon who gets the last slice and so forth.

1062
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: So uh, it's something I do bake, I cook so uh.

1063
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: I enjoy making them. And they're very easy to make,

1064
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: so I make them. I don't charge anybody. From a

1065
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: couple of people say well, you make one for my birthday?

1066
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: How much you charge? I said, well, when did your

1067
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: birthday or something? And I'll make it and give it

1068
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, I mean, and they enjoyed. And that

1069
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: was Charles talks pies. We're gonna get back to rabbit

1070
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: hunting now, that's our new segment. Charles talks about pie.

1071
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: That was great. You did a great job. Thank you.

1072
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: Now back to rabbits now, rabbits um, you learn a

1073
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: lot I think about rabbits. Jeffrey, You've you've been hanging

1074
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: out with old Charles. Here you sumer standing here to

1075
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,479
Speaker 1: what Friday? You got a couple more days to hunt?

1076
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: Describe kind of what you grew up rabbit hunting, what

1077
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,919
Speaker 1: you learn from from hanging around Charles. Well, I thought

1078
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: I knew everything before until I met Charles. I As

1079
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: as I mentioned earlier, the most most important thing that

1080
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: he always stressed, and it wasn't stressed as much when

1081
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: I was growing up, was definitely safety. And my father

1082
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: always made sure that we were safe. But one thing

1083
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: I recognized when I started hunting with Charles was that

1084
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: anytime someone goes hunting with him for the first time,

1085
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: he's going to make sure that you know the safety rules,

1086
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: not only safety for the people that you're hunting with,

1087
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: but for the dogs that are out there as well.

1088
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: The other thing is as um is that the enjoyment

1089
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: of hunting and you're out to have fun. It's not

1090
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: all about the number of rabbits that you shoot. It's

1091
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: about out there, the camaraderie and having fun. And the

1092
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: other thing that I've noticed and learned from him is

1093
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: that whenever you go on someone's property, you respect that

1094
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: person's property, whether it's on private land or whether it's

1095
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: on public land. And that's what I've really cherish and

1096
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: and and really respect about him, because he's going to

1097
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: make sure that you respect that person's property. And that's

1098
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: that's the most important thing, because that's how you get

1099
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: invites back to properties to hunt and to continue that

1100
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: the key, Yeah, the key to access. And you drove,

1101
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: you drove all the way up here from Tennessee. Yeah,

1102
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: you're staying for a week. Your wife must be nice,

1103
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: she said, go ahead, go adventures. Yeah, because it's not,

1104
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: like he said, it's not a normal it's not a

1105
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: normal thing, even within the hunting world, to be doing

1106
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: for seven days. Um, could you ever sit down and

1107
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: think why, I mean, other than your dad taking me down,

1108
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: there are some other thing that gets you. I've in

1109
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: September I retired, so now I've got a lot more

1110
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 1: time that I can hunt, that I can spend time

1111
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: kind of doing what I want to do, more family time.

1112
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: And so hunting is a passion. So I figured, if

1113
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, might as well go where the

1114
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: rabbits are to the got him? You got him. I

1115
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: don't know how many you guys are gonna kill between

1116
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,959
Speaker 1: now on Friday, but I'm worried for the rabbits because

1117
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: you're coming. We're gonna try. You can hunt every day, No, No,

1118
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: we just have a couple of hunts. Uh left, We're

1119
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: not doing anything tomorrow or wandsy. We're gonna hunt Thursday

1120
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: on a nice piece of property, and I may go

1121
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: on Friday with a person who want me to take

1122
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: him and a friend and Jeffrey. We'll go and then

1123
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: we'll come back a little bit of short hunt because

1124
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna leave in the afternoon. So we got at

1125
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: least two days, maybe three. Nothing wrong with that. No,

1126
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: So you here's another thing. We take a break from rabbit. Honey.

1127
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 1: When I was over at your house, what last year

1128
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: maybe uh, you showed me you had like a book

1129
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: there basically of your entire life. You've written an autobiography

1130
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 1: right when you mentioned it earlier. You've written an autobiography.

1131
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: You have all these stories from when you were a

1132
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: little kid in this book, all these photos. It's in

1133
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: a binder, isn't it. If I remember correctly, it's We

1134
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 1: didn't publish it. We had it printed and it's it's

1135
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: it's with that glued back binding. But it's very thorough

1136
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: and firm, and it's your life. Yeah, And we distributed

1137
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: to a few friends and family members at the time.

1138
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: And why, why what struck you to write that? Just

1139
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: all the remembrance of your life or just a lot

1140
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: of memories I had, and I thought about it for

1141
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: teen years before I wrote it. And I would write

1142
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: notes on various pieces of paper, one word, two words,

1143
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: a sentence here, and I had a sack of papers

1144
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: staple together. And I told my wife, she said, when

1145
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna write this? So I said, after hunting season.

1146
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: And so in the year two thousand thirteen, after hunting season,

1147
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: which in the last day in February in March, on

1148
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: my early rises or every day, I would type for

1149
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: one to three hours, and I had all of my

1150
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 1: thoughts and on paper, and the rest just float out

1151
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: of my head, and I made up certain table of

1152
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: contents and I would just write about that, whether it

1153
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: was one page or ten pages. And then in there

1154
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: I put a lot of rabbit stories. I put the

1155
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: letters that I had been had written at that time

1156
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: to the family, which came from about they're in there.

1157
01:08:55,720 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: I gave testimony to a number of people who had passed.

1158
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: They always asked me to come and say a few words,

1159
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: so I wrote those in. And at a high school

1160
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: reunion they would ask me to give a various talks,

1161
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 1: so I put those in there, and some letters to

1162
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: the class me. So that combined with all of those

1163
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 1: things that combined autobiography. Then I had pages of pictures

1164
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: a lot of people and when I was a kid,

1165
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,759
Speaker 1: when my brothers and sis I'm the youngest of seven,

1166
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: and aunts and uncles and grandmother and so forth. Had

1167
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: all of those in there, and I labeled them so

1168
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 1: people know who they are and so forth. So that's

1169
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 1: what I did, and it only took me a couple

1170
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: of months or so to do it, one to three

1171
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: hours a day. And then I didn't let my wife

1172
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: read it until I finished, and I said, read it.

1173
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: Their errors in there, and she read it, and then

1174
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: I went back and I saw the correct it. Then

1175
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 1: we had our Auto, who is a good attitor, edited

1176
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: and we got it printed at a local print shop

1177
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: and we were printed about thirty five copies and we

1178
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: handed out There are some stories in there. I remember

1179
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,759
Speaker 1: talking to your wife, Judy about this. There's some stories

1180
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: in there from when you were growing up in Louisiana. Right,

1181
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: you pick one to tell. I mean, what's the one

1182
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: that sticks to mind that kind of defines your early

1183
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: life there in Louisiana. Well, you know, uh, I grew

1184
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,799
Speaker 1: up on a on a farm, and we were share croppers.

1185
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: And many of the people at that time will share croppers,

1186
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: and so you help. A share cropper is a person

1187
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: who lives on somebody's land. You use their land, and

1188
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: they get a a fort of whatever proceeds you make

1189
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: you pay. They let you use the land, they get

1190
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: a fort. You buy the seed, you buy the fertilizer

1191
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 1: that you harvest it. And then we were harvest and

1192
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: cotton and sugar cane primarily. So when it went to

1193
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: the gin mill for the cotton and to the sugar

1194
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: refinery for the sugar cane, they automatically took a fourth

1195
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: out and they sent three fords of a check to

1196
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: my dad and a ford to the landowner. Okay, it

1197
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: was just it was. It was meager, meager living in

1198
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: so forth. So you you scraped out a living and

1199
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 1: I and there were a lot of people who lived

1200
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: that way. I mean the community was made up at

1201
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: that time of mainly black and white people. And you

1202
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: had to equal as as many doing it, and so forth.

1203
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 1: Small forms, small form. Now none of them exists anymore.

1204
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: Those farms are still there, but there's one or two

1205
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: people who Harvard sugar cane. When you go back, none

1206
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: but sugar cane, sugar cane equipment, sugar cane trucks and

1207
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: so forth, and that's what they plant in that it

1208
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 1: grows well in that region. But growing up was interesting.

1209
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: We had a lot of fun. We did a lot

1210
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 1: of fun things. We made games, we we made toys,

1211
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: We made all kinds of little bows and arrow We

1212
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: made a little thing that we call it a pop gun.

1213
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: It would shoot china berries. You folks never heard of china,

1214
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: but it's a little ball thing that grow on the

1215
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: tree and you take a you take a eldberry branch

1216
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: and you cut it and you let it dry and

1217
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: you bore it out. It's already bored. And then you

1218
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: take an old broomstick and you make a plunger and

1219
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: you you lubricated and your plunge it and you put

1220
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: them china berries in there and you push it hard

1221
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 1: and it pops. I wonder, and then we made We

1222
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 1: made a pop gun, sling shots and all of those things.

1223
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: We we we trapped birds, We did stuff and uh

1224
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 1: learn and how to make wine with cherries when we

1225
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 1: were small and get drunk and sleep all day. So

1226
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, wait what we made wine? We learned how

1227
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: to make wine with wild barry, wild cherries. Washo was

1228
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 1: our alcohol in it was alcohol. Oh we will eat

1229
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: nine and sleep off. The different than me is a

1230
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: more modern person. We had. We had time because we

1231
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: didn't have summer jobs. There were none of the facilities

1232
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: for you to have any of the things that the

1233
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 1: kids have today that they abusing. We had none of that.

1234
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:43,959
Speaker 1: So we we we worked in the fields in the springtime,

1235
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: we worked in the fields and the fall and in

1236
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: the summer months stuff was growing and we had a

1237
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 1: lot of time. So we we we we fished. There

1238
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: was a river nearby. We fished, and so forth. People

1239
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: came to visit, and my dad grew a big vegetable garden,

1240
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 1: big vegetable garden than we can use. So everything was kinned,

1241
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 1: the old mason jars, and the rest we gave away.

1242
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: And I didn't like that because I had to go

1243
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: pick for all of these people. And now I find

1244
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: myself doing the same thing. I grow a garden, I

1245
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: give people a cousin, one of my wife's cousin, and

1246
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: I we find these people like Mr Hole, he sells

1247
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: everything for fifty cents a pound, and I'll take fifty

1248
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 1: dollars and I'll fill up the back of the truck

1249
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 1: and I'll give all these greens to people, and so forth.

1250
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 1: Then I find some other friends who grow college and

1251
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: kill for the deer. The deer don't come and eat

1252
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: them because the deer like turnips. And I go and

1253
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: pick and we give it away, and I give away

1254
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,560
Speaker 1: all a rabbit. So I'm doing the same thing my

1255
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: dad did, and I'm giving it away. But it brings

1256
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: joy to people. That brings happiness to people and makes

1257
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: them feel good, and it makes me feel and I

1258
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 1: don't accept a penny for none of it. It's the

1259
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: church a real well, He's like, that's more like a

1260
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 1: church of Charles Rodney because it's not all rabbit honey related.

1261
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: No wanted you to get your first dog to go

1262
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: to go hunt. Do you have a dog before you

1263
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: had a dog for hunting? Do you have a dog

1264
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: as a kid. We had a We had a couple

1265
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: of dogs. We had a dog that lived to be

1266
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: about fourteen. His name was Spot. Now I'm gonna tell

1267
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 1: you about Spot. Spot is in the autobiography. Spot was

1268
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: an unusual dog. When I tell the story that my

1269
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: kids and my wife, they said, you're lying. No dog

1270
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: could do this. Spot could do anything. Spot could hunt,

1271
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 1: He could guard the yard. He could come in the

1272
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 1: house because we had the old screen door. He'd open

1273
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: a door and he was honest. You could leave food

1274
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: on the table. Spot would never jump on the table

1275
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 1: and take what he was And when we had chickens

1276
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 1: and ducks in the when Mama wanted to kill a

1277
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: chicken or a duck and we couldn't catch it, we

1278
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: would tell Spot. We'd point to the chicken, get that

1279
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: on that spot. It'd be fifty chickens out. The Spot

1280
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: would go and catch just that one and bring it back,

1281
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: and I tell this story that when when I'm stretching it,

1282
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: now all of what I just told you the truth.

1283
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: But when I stretch it, okay, now now it's now.

1284
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: When I stretch it, I tell people I used to

1285
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 1: read the comics and when I finished with the comics,

1286
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: I put the comic paper on the flooring. Spot would

1287
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:34,839
Speaker 1: read the comics too. He could read. And I told somebody,

1288
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: I told somebody when it was a whole bunch of

1289
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: us young guys. We had a lot of cousins and

1290
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: we would play ball, and when we would be short

1291
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: of one person, Spot played second base. Did you give

1292
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: him an catch it with his mouth? But he couldn't bet,

1293
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: so somebody had the bat short, arms short. I don't

1294
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: know what to believe. I just want to believe it

1295
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 1: all because but we like dog name Spot, and he did.

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01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: He was a good dog and he lived to be fourteen.

1297
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: But he was he was a very good dog, and

1298
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 1: he's been a good hunt dog and good duck dog.

1299
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: Well he could he would get one or two rabbits

1300
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: and that was it. But he wasn't. He was He

1301
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 1: was mixed bagle with something else. At a fellow gave

1302
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 1: my older brother. And when my brother went off to

1303
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: the seminary to study for to be a priest, he

1304
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 1: left him for me to watch. So I watched him

1305
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:29,560
Speaker 1: until he passed away. Well, you got there's like a

1306
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: juxtposition because I know, Jeffrey, you have kids and now

1307
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: you're retired and you've got time to do this kind

1308
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: of same thing. For for you, Charles, there's there's a

1309
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: way that you were raised and then the kind of

1310
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: the way you raised your kids, right, And then for

1311
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: for you especially are you have your children, have any children, Jeffrey,

1312
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: My oldest daughter has twin boys, all right, perfect? Um,

1313
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: you could see like the generations, right, you can see

1314
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 1: you can both of you guys have a generational view

1315
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 1: of life. How you were, how you were with your kids,

1316
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,560
Speaker 1: and how our kids are with their own kids. You know,

1317
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: like either of you can answer the question, but like,

1318
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: what's the difference between you know, for you, Charles, what's

1319
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: the difference between growing up as a sharecropper's son in

1320
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: Louisiana and how your kids grew up and how your

1321
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: kids are raising their kids. Well, my wife and I

1322
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: we try to instill good, good family values in them.

1323
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 1: In in we lived the proper life of good values.

1324
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 1: We are. She grew up Catholic. I grew up Catholic.

1325
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 1: We went to Catholic schools. So we got that value

1326
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: from our parents and from the nuns who taught us.

1327
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 1: She went to uh all the way to Catholic high

1328
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: school with the nuns in Maryland, and I went to

1329
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: Catholic elementary in Louisiana. Uh. We were not allowed when

1330
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,799
Speaker 1: I was growing up to go to the high school,

1331
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: the Catholic high school because of race. So our kids

1332
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 1: went to Catholic elementary, Catholic high schools, and they got

1333
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: that training, and then they got that training from us

1334
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: and they in't still those same values in their kids.

1335
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: And we have three children and each of them have

1336
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:14,759
Speaker 1: three two children. Wow, what are the what's the difference

1337
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: in that generation that you see? You know from where

1338
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 1: you were now and even even as hunting goes through

1339
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: your kids to your kids hunt, No, they don't hunt.

1340
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 1: Do you think that is? Well? When they were growing up,

1341
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 1: I took a hiatus from hunting. That's why I said

1342
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: early in the podcast, I hunted for sixty years, but UH,

1343
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 1: actually forty some years because I took a hiatus for

1344
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: about fifteen years when they went elementary in high school

1345
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: to raise them, and I didn't hunt. And then as

1346
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: they went through high school and in college, I started

1347
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: back and then I hunted. So no, they they didn't hunt.

1348
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: I offered my son this year just so uh, last week,

1349
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: that he should come up this way he lives in Atlanta,

1350
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: near Atlanta, and try his hand at rabbit honey, and

1351
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 1: he said he would. Now, my children don't want their

1352
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 1: kids to be around guns, and I accept that. I

1353
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 1: respect that. But I told him, who's a better teacher

1354
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: for them than me? Because I'm insured that they're safe.

1355
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: And they just said, notice that you can take them fishing,

1356
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,719
Speaker 1: and you can take them planting flowers and planting vegetables

1357
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: and do other things, but not that. So I respect that.

1358
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: How about you, Jeffrey have all I have all girls girls. Yeah,

1359
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: my girls love to do uh, clay target shooting. I

1360
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: do some clay target shooting. They like to do that.

1361
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 1: But as far as the hunting and the skinning and

1362
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: the killing of the animals, nah, understandable. Yeah, that's understandable.

1363
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: I wonder that. I mean, my kids aren't old enough

1364
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: to make decisions like that. Although my son every time

1365
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: we talk since I told him I was coming rabbit hunting,

1366
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 1: asked where the rabbits are and what we're when we're

1367
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: gonna eat them. So I got that going for it,

1368
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 1: but I don't know what that's going to turn into.

1369
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:09,719
Speaker 1: But for now, we're looking good, really positive signs. Although,

1370
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: like I said, you respect what they want to do

1371
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 1: and it doesn't really matter if they follow you into

1372
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: this or not. You can still relate to him, I imagine,

1373
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: you know. And and Charles, your wife, Judy is is

1374
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: as good as they come, so I know that helps.

1375
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: We gotta have her on next time. Did she come on?

1376
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 1: You think she she will if you ask. I mean,

1377
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: she likes you and feel a whole lot. I like her,

1378
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 1: and I wish you would just start calling me up

1379
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: just her tonight. I'm serious, I said, Ben said, if

1380
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: you ever want to talk, you can call him anytimes,

1381
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 1: anything about anything. Yeah, she's not she's not an outdoor person,

1382
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: but she said, I know more about rabbit hunting because

1383
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 1: she's my editor of my stories and I've probably written

1384
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 1: a hundred stories in three or four different magazine. But

1385
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: she ed, it's for me and she'll change the title.

1386
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 1: She picks the titles. She said, your title is not

1387
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 1: good enough for the articles, so she'll pick the title.

1388
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: And she said, this is not flowing right. I don't

1389
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 1: understand it. So she knows, she said, I'll tell people

1390
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 1: I know more about rabbit rabbit hunting than ever going

1391
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: in the field. So she's not an outdoor person and

1392
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 1: she's a great cook. Yes, yeah, Grated. Everything we need

1393
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: to get your We need to. I feel like the

1394
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 1: after this conversation, the fascination with your book, it's gonna

1395
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: start to rise, and we got to think about are

1396
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 1: you on board with trying to get that out of

1397
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: the public we need to get Maybe we'll spruce it

1398
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,719
Speaker 1: up a little bit. But well, a number of people

1399
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 1: have asked me who've seen it, and asked me, magnificent.

1400
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: It's like a hundred page of life and then the

1401
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 1: rest includes the stories, the rabbit hunting stories to let

1402
01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: us to the family and uh, the speeches and the talks,

1403
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 1: uh and all of that, and maybe people don't see

1404
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,719
Speaker 1: enough of that. Uh. It all comes from the heart

1405
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 1: and the pictures and people can reminisce. And I thought

1406
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 1: about asking somebody about maybe splitting it and publishing it

1407
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: because I think when we put the rabbit hunting stories in,

1408
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 1: there is probably maybe fifty of twentysome stories. But now

1409
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 1: I have over a hundred and that they've all been

1410
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: published and so forth, So I don't know, you know,

1411
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 1: it was never intended to be something to publish. But

1412
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,679
Speaker 1: a lot of people say, well, you're you're sharing something

1413
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 1: that people may enjoy. You're sharing your story, right, we

1414
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 1: all have stories. You guys are both African American men

1415
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 1: from different parts of the country. They've been rabbit hunt

1416
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,679
Speaker 1: your whole life, and now you're sitting around this table together.

1417
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 1: You know. So that when when I was when I

1418
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 1: was thinking about writing the story, I was still working

1419
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: and I retired in two thousand three, and I would

1420
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 1: write notes to myself. I had a kind of a

1421
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 1: halfway cushy job. I was on my way out, so

1422
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to sweat, you know, and so forth.

1423
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: So I would write all these notes and I would

1424
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 1: go home, and then I started writing names of people

1425
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: who visited us in the house we were. We lived

1426
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: along this little road into the little town five miles out,

1427
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: and we were like the first house of relatives that

1428
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 1: you would see going into town. And then when people

1429
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,560
Speaker 1: would leave, we would be the last one. So a

1430
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: lot of people stopped. They stop on their way to town,

1431
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: go and visit somebody. Some of these people were related

1432
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: some of these people but not related. They were just

1433
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: family friends and so forth who had moved to Baton

1434
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,560
Speaker 1: Rouge thirty miles away, or the New Orleans or the

1435
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 1: Houston or someplace else, and they would stop. Some of

1436
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 1: these people we saw off the them. They came on

1437
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 1: such days as He's Sunday to visit. Some came for

1438
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 1: All Saints Day in November, the first, which is a

1439
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,560
Speaker 1: big thing in Louisiana, where they cleaned the graveyards and

1440
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: people come back and put flowers on the graves of

1441
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 1: the deceased one. Some came when when the figs made,

1442
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: we had fig trees. Some came in the sweet corn me,

1443
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 1: some came in the pecans me. Some came when the

1444
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 1: garden stuff made, when the Irish potato, when the sweep did.

1445
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: They knew when all this and they had come, and

1446
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 1: it makes me go get this stuff. And I go

1447
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: get it and bring it and pile it up and

1448
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: give it to these people. And I couldn't accept any money.

1449
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: So we saw all these people. So in the story,

1450
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: I listed all of the names of all of these

1451
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: people that I remember who came by, and many of

1452
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: them had nicknames and so forth, and some of them

1453
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 1: did various Oh I remember plenty of them, all of them.

1454
01:25:55,560 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 1: And uh they had they had uh let me, let me,

1455
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: let me just think that a lot of these people

1456
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 1: were friends of my dad. You know. They had Mr

1457
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: Paul Jean Pierre, he came by, and they had Mr

1458
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 1: Isaac Harrison, and he had a nickname. They called him

1459
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: pine top or ze I. He had yellow eyes like

1460
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 1: a cat, they said. They said he could see things

1461
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 1: in the dark, and he was good at cheating at cards.

1462
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 1: And I put all of this in there. And they

1463
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 1: had this man who a lot of these guys couldn't

1464
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 1: read all right, So they came to our house because

1465
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 1: my mother wrote for them and so forth. And they

1466
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 1: had this man, Mr. Chuka Nam. You know, how do

1467
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 1: you get these names? I don't know. And then they

1468
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: had another man called cousin Charlie. He would come and

1469
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: his wife would go into town with her sons and

1470
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: they would drop him off and he would come there

1471
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: to hear my dad and my uncle tell stories about

1472
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,600
Speaker 1: when they were growing up in the thirties, in the

1473
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 1: twin is, in the thirties, and he would laugh. Five

1474
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: minutes Dad, he would start telling stories, and this man

1475
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: would start crying. Tears would just run down his face.

1476
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 1: And so for then we had all a relatives king

1477
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: over a different time, different ones. Uh. They had a

1478
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: lot of them at that time my age, and we

1479
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 1: would see some of these people often. So it was fun.

1480
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: And I wrote I listed all of their names in

1481
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: alphabetic Calorida and so. And I think out of the

1482
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 1: group of maybe a hundred or so names, that's probably

1483
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 1: only about two or three living. All these people. Well,

1484
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 1: these people were older, they were much older. Well, I

1485
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 1: wonder if a man with your storytelling abilities and your

1486
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 1: charisma was blessed with the memory you were blessed with

1487
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 1: for a reason. And when I remember when I was

1488
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 1: looking at that book, I was like, there's something serendipitous here,

1489
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:56,719
Speaker 1: like what you can review the fact you can remember

1490
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: a hundred how old were you and you remember these names?

1491
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: They're in this time? Uh you mean when they were

1492
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 1: coming around, When these people were coming around, I was

1493
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 1: anywhere from five years old and I left there when

1494
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 1: I was twenty two, but I would go back and visit.

1495
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 1: After I got married, would go back once a year

1496
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 1: and visit. Mom had passed. Dad was still living, and

1497
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 1: a lot of these people were still living and so forth.

1498
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: So they would come around and I would see him,

1499
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 1: and I would always make it a point to go

1500
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 1: and talk to him. I was the favorite of so

1501
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: many of uh the female cousins. Great aunt Teresa and

1502
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 1: her her sisters uh uh A really was one of

1503
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 1: my favorite. And they just they just loved me because

1504
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: I would do things for them. And and even when

1505
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 1: they were old people, they still asked about they were.

1506
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: They were just hearts of gold, okay, And they wouldn't

1507
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 1: ask for anybody else, but they would ask for me

1508
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 1: because I was close to all him. I got close

1509
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 1: to all of them, and I'm that way with people.

1510
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 1: Now you are You are that way, Jeffrey can say.

1511
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: You can attest to that the collision of I mean

1512
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 1: everything you everything you say to me about pies and

1513
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: the church ladies, and I have a fan club at

1514
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 1: church and I have all these old ladies that, Oh damnit, Jeffrey,

1515
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 1: I've almost forgot this. I don't know if you've ever

1516
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 1: seen this, have you seen Charles the suits that Charles wears.

1517
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 1: Have you seen the suits you take? Because I could

1518
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 1: do it, but I'd rather you describe this and seeing

1519
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: him suits. Has he seen him? I don't know, because

1520
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: Judy would take you back there and should be like,

1521
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,560
Speaker 1: look at these suits he's did. To me, he's a

1522
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: He is a classy dresser that I haven't seen too

1523
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 1: many people other than special occasions, who's able to match

1524
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: this man when it comes to fashion and clothes. And

1525
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 1: I think will tell you that whenever he goes to church,

1526
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 1: people still ask him as long as he's been going there,

1527
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 1: where'd you get that from? Who gave you that? Where'd

1528
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 1: you buy that? You know? He is a classy talking

1529
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 1: about three piece pin stripe. You go use a cane

1530
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: when you go I have can I have cats? And

1531
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 1: shoes the match? Yeah, the shoes I have. I was

1532
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 1: always taught when you start dressing your dress from your

1533
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 1: feet up, your shoes have to be polished and they

1534
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 1: gotta look right. That's the first thing, because you're looking

1535
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 1: down and then you look up, and I feel when

1536
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: you're going out of the house, you need to look

1537
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 1: your best, particular when you're going to church. You need

1538
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 1: to look your best, Okay, don't play. I'm yeah. So

1539
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 1: that's that's my feeling. It's my second passion fashion. Yeah,

1540
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 1: I just I joyed. I dress and people say, don't

1541
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 1: you feel over addressed? And said, no, don't you feel

1542
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:13,560
Speaker 1: unaddressed dressed? I dressed for me. Okay, I dressed for me.

1543
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: And and the past the pastor said that coach you

1544
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 1: have on is bright. If the lights go out in church,

1545
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,720
Speaker 1: we can just the sun hit you in it a

1546
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 1: light up. What's the color pallet? Because you have like

1547
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 1: plata purple woman. When I was in there, well, I

1548
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 1: have I have red, shades of red. I have a

1549
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 1: mustard yellow, I have purple, I have lime green, I

1550
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 1: have peach. And this is like it's not top at

1551
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 1: like Fedora or top hat goes. I have hats both

1552
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:48,679
Speaker 1: summer and winter. And I followed the seasons for the hats.

1553
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 1: What's the summer had looked like? Some hat? I have straws.

1554
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,840
Speaker 1: I have straw Cowboy hats I have because I have

1555
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 1: cowboy boots. I have straw U big brim, small brim,

1556
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 1: uh snap brim that snaps in the front. You can

1557
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 1: shape in any kind of where you want to have

1558
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 1: felt hats that you can shape any kind of way,

1559
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 1: different sizes. I like the larger brim the three inch

1560
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 1: brim um, and I have felt cowboy hats. Now you

1561
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 1: wear hats, I followed the season. The season is you

1562
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 1: don't put a straw hat on your head until after

1563
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:29,680
Speaker 1: Memorial Day and you stop at labor d and then

1564
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:32,560
Speaker 1: you wear the felts the other time. That's like the

1565
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 1: fall fall the wind had some fall is the same

1566
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 1: the felts. The felt. You don't want to wear a

1567
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 1: felt in July zero feather in these hats? Oh yeah,

1568
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 1: I got matching felt. You gotta you gotta step it right.

1569
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:51,640
Speaker 1: You don't half steps the man. That's it's unbelievable. My

1570
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 1: wife said, people should see me in another light. The

1571
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 1: church people see me dressed up, but they never see

1572
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:06,560
Speaker 1: me with work clothes on or with hunting clothes on.

1573
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 1: I can see the cover of the next better Beagling magazine.

1574
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 1: Half of you with rabbit hunting, half of you is

1575
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 1: in your church attack. So she keeps saying, you need

1576
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 1: to you need to share yourself with the people. I say,

1577
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:20,679
Speaker 1: these people don't need to notice none of their business.

1578
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:22,680
Speaker 1: She said, yeah, but they see you in one light,

1579
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,679
Speaker 1: and they they judge you another way, and so forth.

1580
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 1: So well, for everybody listening, I'll try to get you.

1581
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you. I'm gonna talk to Judy about

1582
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:34,600
Speaker 1: this and get her to send me some pictures of

1583
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 1: you and your in your your holiday attire and your

1584
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 1: church attire so people can see it one thing. And

1585
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 1: that's the only place I go. Now. When I was working,

1586
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 1: I love to dress and to work I used to dress. Yeah,

1587
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 1: I worked. I manage a human resource office and I

1588
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 1: would dress every day with a suit and tie. And

1589
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 1: I had and our son who went to Catholic high school.

1590
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 1: They have to wear a coat and tie, so he

1591
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:09,719
Speaker 1: would use some of mine outfits. He was that size

1592
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:14,400
Speaker 1: in and when he went to college three days which

1593
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 1: made me feel good. Three days out of the week,

1594
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: he would wear a suit and tie and college and

1595
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 1: they didn't have to you know, you don't have to

1596
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 1: dress in college, but he would dress. And when now

1597
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 1: he's a manager of a large copy of company in Atlanta,

1598
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 1: and he gets dress to the tea. So it makes

1599
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 1: me feel good. So that apple didn't fall far from

1600
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 1: the tree. That's a good place for the apple fall too.

1601
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 1: I think that um at some level, it seems to

1602
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,680
Speaker 1: me like you're you got your passions right, you know,

1603
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 1: and you take those things to the nth degree. Because

1604
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 1: rabbit you don't just go rabbit hunting. Because we were

1605
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 1: Phil and I earlier, we're talking about you know, as

1606
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 1: a kid, you rabbit hunt, but you just go kick bushes.

1607
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 1: You don't get a six pack of dogs and the

1608
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:01,800
Speaker 1: running round and do what you do? Is it? What

1609
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 1: what you do is a different type of type of hunting. Now,

1610
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 1: Jeffrey said that your dad had beagles, so there was

1611
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 1: a similar type of honey. It was similar. But one

1612
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 1: thing that I've I've learned from Charles is that you've

1613
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 1: got to put time into your your beagles. And you

1614
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,600
Speaker 1: could tell the difference. My dad had beagles, but my

1615
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 1: dad worked so much that he didn't He was in

1616
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 1: maintenance at staff for chemical and he didn't really have

1617
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 1: the time. The time that he would run his beagles

1618
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 1: would basically be during the season. The time between there

1619
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 1: they were kind of idle, you know. We would let

1620
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 1: him out in the back we had woods behind our

1621
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 1: house to kind of run or whatever on their own.

1622
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 1: But I've seen just a different demeanor and a training

1623
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 1: system with Charles. Charles has got a regiment of how

1624
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 1: he trains his beagles year round unless it's just so

1625
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 1: too hot to run them. So that's been the difference

1626
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 1: of not only his beagles, but other people's beagles that

1627
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 1: I that I see in the difference of them. It's

1628
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:10,599
Speaker 1: the amount of time that you spent with those. They

1629
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 1: were running hard today. They weren't time. They were back

1630
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:14,640
Speaker 1: at it after a little bit of rest. Mean, I

1631
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 1: thought they might be sluggish, but they were on it. Well,

1632
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 1: they're healthy and they eat good and they they get

1633
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:25,720
Speaker 1: taken care of with good medicine. So they're healthy. And

1634
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,680
Speaker 1: when you have healthy dogs, they'll and you you work them.

1635
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:33,680
Speaker 1: Like Jeffrey said, they will please you. What they do.

1636
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 1: It's a it's a weird, you know, weirdly symbiotic relationship

1637
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 1: that's there. Like the emotions that they show and that

1638
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 1: you show in the field. It's strangely in in sync.

1639
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 1: It's a number of people asked me, they said, well,

1640
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 1: how do you get these dogs to listen to you?

1641
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 1: And how you get them to do this and to

1642
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 1: do that? I said, I spend time with them. I

1643
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 1: spent a lot of money on gas going up and

1644
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:03,639
Speaker 1: down the road. The season ends on Saturday to twenty nine,

1645
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:07,839
Speaker 1: and maybe about two weeks later, I'm gonna go somewhere

1646
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 1: and run not trained, they already trained and run and

1647
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 1: usually just run one or two rabbits and then for

1648
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 1: about an hour hour and a half and I come home.

1649
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 1: But it gets them going. And I'll do this and

1650
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 1: tell about the middle of me until it started getting hot,

1651
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 1: the bugs out, the snakes out, the ticks out, and

1652
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 1: so forth. So then I'll start back around the middle

1653
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 1: of September when they start to get cool in the morning,

1654
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 1: and I'll go and run them in the morning and

1655
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 1: get them in shape and get the enthusiasm going in

1656
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 1: and so forth. And if somebody has developed a bad habits,

1657
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 1: I can detect that and I can I got time

1658
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 1: to correct it before the season. I know a bunch

1659
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:55,560
Speaker 1: of guys with dogs who don't take the time, and

1660
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 1: it shows when they go to hunt these dogs. These

1661
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,679
Speaker 1: dogs are not listen name, They're all over the place.

1662
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 1: They don't call when they come. They don't pack together

1663
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 1: because they're a team. You need to work them so

1664
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 1: they can pack together. And they're no good. If one

1665
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 1: is here, one is over there. You've got the wrong

1666
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: combination of dogs, the wrong speed. One is right in

1667
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 1: front of you, one is fifty yards in front of you,

1668
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 1: and two is a hundred yards away. You want them

1669
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 1: all together. And it's called making the right choices when

1670
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 1: you're matching your dogs up and you don't just take

1671
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 1: anything any dog and you don't buy. You buy from

1672
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 1: reputable people. And when you buy from quality people, and

1673
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 1: I've said this before, you will get quality dogs. And

1674
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 1: you work them, you spend time so they know your scent,

1675
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 1: your smell, your voice, your tone, and so forth, and

1676
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 1: they prove And many people ask me, how do you

1677
01:38:56,560 --> 01:39:00,560
Speaker 1: get them to that? See, we work together in a go.

1678
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 1: It shows, it shows. Now before we end this whole thing,

1679
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 1: I remember last time, maybe last time you were on,

1680
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 1: we ended with you making a plea, well not a plea,

1681
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:13,639
Speaker 1: but you just a bit of a sermon about why

1682
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 1: people should should go rabbit hunt. So we can maybe

1683
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 1: do that again, or you could do or you could

1684
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 1: do why people why should people dressed nicely, or why

1685
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:26,719
Speaker 1: they should take up baking, or why maybe they should

1686
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 1: write down their experiences or many of the other things

1687
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 1: that you do. But I think maybe in general will

1688
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 1: let you and Jeffrey kind of say what you go first?

1689
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 1: What is it? You guys are kind of like you're

1690
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 1: both retired, you're this is the but this is the

1691
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:45,560
Speaker 1: thing you choose to do. So convince people to to

1692
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 1: take up rabbit hunting. It's best you can. I would say,

1693
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 1: it's it's a great way to get out and enjoy nature. Uh,

1694
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 1: it's a good way of networking. A lot of people golf,

1695
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people uh do other type sports once

1696
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 1: they retire. But this is a great sport. And trust me,

1697
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 1: it's a sport. It's not just something that you can

1698
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:16,680
Speaker 1: just go out and within a week or so you're

1699
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 1: good at it. No, I mean as as as you've

1700
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 1: seen today. I mean we do it a lot, and

1701
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:26,600
Speaker 1: we still miss and we still uh make mistakes. But

1702
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 1: it's a good way to get out to enjoy nature

1703
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 1: and to network with people, different people every time you

1704
01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 1: go out. Take it away, Charles, Well, a couple of things.

1705
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 1: We are conservationists. Rabbit hunters, deer hunters, goose hunters. We

1706
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:52,800
Speaker 1: are conservationists. So when I say that we when you

1707
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 1: have too many of certain animals, you know, disease can

1708
01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 1: take place and we conserve. We try to keep the

1709
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 1: predators away so the rabbit population increase, and then we

1710
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 1: hunt the rabbits and everything we hunt we eat or

1711
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 1: somebody eat. So we work with the land on us

1712
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 1: and we work with the farmers to let us use

1713
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 1: their land, respect their land, and hopefully they leave some

1714
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,519
Speaker 1: cover so that we can hunt. It is a great

1715
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 1: way to meet people. I meet people all the time

1716
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 1: who want to talk about rabbit hunting, who want to

1717
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 1: go rabbit hunting, who wants a rabbit, And they said, well,

1718
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:33,719
Speaker 1: we'll just sell me a rabbit. I don't sell rabbits.

1719
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 1: It's illegal. I'll give you a rabbit, and I have

1720
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:41,600
Speaker 1: a freezer just for that. So you meet people, you

1721
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 1: and it's good exercise. Okay, we must. We must have

1722
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 1: walked a couple of miles today. It's it's it's it's

1723
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:55,799
Speaker 1: great exercise. Uh. It's a it's a camarader it's a friendship.

1724
01:41:55,880 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 1: It's it's learning about so much, learning about nature, protecting nature. Uh.

1725
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 1: Just and enjoying yourself, enjoying yourself. And of course you

1726
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: help the industry because you buy hunting license, you buy clothes,

1727
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 1: you buy guns, and you buy all of these things

1728
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 1: that keeps other people employed. So it's a it's a

1729
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:23,679
Speaker 1: fun field thing that I enjoy, and I only hunt

1730
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,800
Speaker 1: rabbit because that's what I enjoy. I tried three or

1731
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 1: four other things and it doesn't It did not work.

1732
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 1: So we talked about turkeys earlier. I said, turkeys, Charles,

1733
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 1: he said, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. I tried.

1734
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 1: I tried it and it and it doesn't. It didn't

1735
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 1: work for me. And on my card it says rabbit

1736
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 1: hunting is the only game in town for me. So

1737
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 1: I'm not criticizing anybody else about that. So it's it's fun. Now.

1738
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 1: Let me just close in answering some of your other things.

1739
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:57,679
Speaker 1: Why should you dress folks? I like, I'm not afraid

1740
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 1: of color us, but I do have the additional blues

1741
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 1: and the blacks and the grays. But my sister told

1742
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 1: me many years ago, you need to step it out

1743
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 1: because Washington, d C. Is a conservative town where you

1744
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 1: wear black, blues and grays. And I stepped it up

1745
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 1: and I went way out of the box. And I

1746
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 1: like colors. I'm not afraid of colors. I'm not afraid canes.

1747
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:25,640
Speaker 1: I have those two I have those. I have to

1748
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:29,599
Speaker 1: when I match, I matched from head to toe. I've

1749
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 1: seen I've seen it. Uh, But I like dressing, and

1750
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 1: I think it puts a quality in the person. You

1751
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,360
Speaker 1: take time to look at yourself. Many people don't look

1752
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,560
Speaker 1: at themselves before they walk out of the house. So

1753
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:42,800
Speaker 1: it makes you feel good. It makes me feel good

1754
01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:47,600
Speaker 1: when I'm dressed, and I enjoyed it. I don't criticize

1755
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 1: anybody for what what they don't do, or what they're

1756
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 1: not capable of doing. This is me and I figured

1757
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 1: after the kids were grown up and gone and so forth,

1758
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 1: I could afford these things. So I I enjoy him

1759
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 1: to the tea, and I'm gonna continue and join him.

1760
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 1: And I told somebody, I said, when I'm a hundred

1761
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 1: and fifteen, I'm gonna be the only old man sitting

1762
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 1: on the porch at the nursing home with cowboy boots

1763
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:21,559
Speaker 1: and a purple jacket telling stories to all of the nurses.

1764
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:25,759
Speaker 1: So and I think you should learn how to cook,

1765
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 1: because one day you're gonna be living by yourself and

1766
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna go hungry, and you need to learn how

1767
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 1: to cook. And you can't eat that stuff from the

1768
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 1: fast food every day. So learn how to cook, go

1769
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 1: in the woods, trap kill fish, and eat some of

1770
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 1: the stuff that God provided in nature provided. I thank

1771
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 1: you there it is. It's beautiful. It's beautiful, beautiful. I'll

1772
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:57,720
Speaker 1: do it. I'll do whatever you want. Um. I will

1773
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:02,599
Speaker 1: say that wh find uh in life And I found

1774
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 1: it with a lot of things in my own life

1775
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 1: that people that have extraordinary passions become extraordinary people. And

1776
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 1: those people like you, Charles bring they have like an

1777
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 1: orbit about them. They have this thing that attracts other people,

1778
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 1: whether it's with a similar passion or just with a

1779
01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 1: similar disposition. You attract people that think the same way

1780
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 1: or want to think the same way. And then then

1781
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:31,280
Speaker 1: through that you you're able to inspire people. So that's

1782
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 1: how I think about you, man. And it's obvious Jeffrey

1783
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 1: sitting here because you got sucked. He got sucked into

1784
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:39,519
Speaker 1: your orbit to getting the gravitational pool of Charles Rode.

1785
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:43,680
Speaker 1: He brought him here at this table. So I think, uh,

1786
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:45,599
Speaker 1: I hope you can keep doing that for many years

1787
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 1: to come. I think you'll make it to who who

1788
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:51,559
Speaker 1: the hell knows how long? Probably you said Jeffrey said

1789
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:53,600
Speaker 1: he's gotta go home. It was your grandmother's hundred and

1790
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 1: third birthday, birthday, and she's doing good. I could see you.

1791
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 1: I could see you want to go that far. I'm

1792
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 1: gonna try. I can see you making it. I'll try.

1793
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:06,880
Speaker 1: I see you and Judy being bacon pies and one

1794
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 1: oh three. I'll be old and too. I'll come over. Yeah,

1795
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 1: come on, you'll be dressed nice. I'm gonna try. All right, boys,

1796
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Enjoyed it. Hell of a rabbit hunt.

1797
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 1: Uh let's go to sleep as past your bedtime. Yeah,

1798
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, appreciate you. All right, thank you.

1799
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 1: That's it. That's all another episode in the books. Congrats

1800
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:47,760
Speaker 1: again to our friend Greg Morse on this turkey call. Yeah,

1801
01:46:51,400 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 1: but that's awful. It's real bad, real bad. But sometimes

1802
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 1: sometimes even though you have zero turkey calling talent, you're

1803
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:03,759
Speaker 1: aativity wins the day. So congratulation to Gregg on winning

1804
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 1: a t HC Eddi Tumbler t HC hat an assigned

1805
01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 1: media cookbook from all of us here at th HC.

1806
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 1: Next week is a big one. It's a big one.

1807
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 1: Film you ready, I have We're gonna fill this room

1808
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 1: with very capable individuals from the mediator crew, and we

1809
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:22,919
Speaker 1: have six of the best poems. It's not even poems,

1810
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:25,600
Speaker 1: just poetic reviews, is what we're gonna call him. We

1811
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 1: asked you, guys an episode on hundred, we said you

1812
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 1: could win the Yanni Patelis find them and grind him giveaway,

1813
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 1: which is a pair of Vortex ten by forty two

1814
01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:38,879
Speaker 1: binos and a Western meat grinder for writing a rhymed

1815
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 1: review on one of wherever you listen on one of

1816
01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:44,240
Speaker 1: those platforms to give us a five surview and writer

1817
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 1: rhyming accompaniment. And boy, did you come through? Holy sh it,

1818
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 1: did you come through? Have you read any of these yet? Phil?

1819
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 1: I've read a couple and they're mostly rude to me.

1820
01:47:55,000 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 1: But that's fine that you and and me, Joe Fernado, Jamie.

1821
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 1: So like last Friday, we were up there all day

1822
01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 1: reading these things. I want to take it seriously because

1823
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 1: a lot of you took it seriously all day reading

1824
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 1: these things, laughing our asses off all day. Um. And

1825
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 1: so we're gonna we have some of our best, our

1826
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:17,599
Speaker 1: most favorite Mediata crew members are gonna come in here

1827
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:22,639
Speaker 1: and do dramatic readings of these poems, including Phil and myself,

1828
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a good time. So that's next week,

1829
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:28,240
Speaker 1: So you're gonna find out if you won the Yanni

1830
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:30,679
Speaker 1: Patelis find him and grind him to giveaway next week.

1831
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 1: And we're also gonna have who else we got. We

1832
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 1: got Rob Greenfield, right, that's right, Rob Greenfield. He's a

1833
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 1: dude who lived who lived for a year without consuming

1834
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 1: any industrialized food, which is pretty cool. It was kind

1835
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:46,760
Speaker 1: of an environmental activist. Are really really good dude, um,

1836
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 1: and it has a lot to say about a lot

1837
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 1: of things. So you'll enjoy that and much more. Next week,

1838
01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:55,639
Speaker 1: we're gonna start off with our really hype for turkey season.

1839
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:58,679
Speaker 1: While Phil Phil knows where he's gonna go now in Texas.

1840
01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:02,160
Speaker 1: He knows the dates he's got to take his hunter

1841
01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:04,680
Speaker 1: safety course, don't you, Phil. That's right, I do. I'm

1842
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 1: excited though. It's gonna eating close and so we're gonna

1843
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:12,799
Speaker 1: do another in the Field podcast with Phil hunting turkeys.

1844
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:19,680
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. We're gonna bring a Morrise's Gobble's

1845
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:21,680
Speaker 1: gonna bring that right in. Yeah, just hold up a

1846
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:24,840
Speaker 1: big boom box. You're staying out someone else's house that

1847
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:27,719
Speaker 1: you want to John Cusack style. Yep, John Cusack style.

1848
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:29,760
Speaker 1: See Phil's here for that. It's nice to have a

1849
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 1: cinephile about help us out. Thanks Phil, But that's it.

1850
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:37,280
Speaker 1: So thank you to Charles Rodney, Thank you to Jeffrey.

1851
01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:40,639
Speaker 1: Thank you to Phil Houon and his family for letting

1852
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:42,560
Speaker 1: us hunt his place on Marylyn's Easter Shore. That was

1853
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 1: a fantastic day. I'm glad to bring that to you.

1854
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a lot more in the field recordings,

1855
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 1: uh in the future. I really enjoyed recording it and

1856
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 1: bring it to you. I know, Phil really enjoyed editing

1857
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 1: it here on a Monday morning to get it to

1858
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:57,800
Speaker 1: you on a Tuesday. So we're gonna keep doing it,

1859
01:49:58,439 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 1: right Phil, Yeah, HC. Don't forget Fills back. He's better

1860
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 1: than ever. He's not sick anymore. So we're never gonna

1861
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:12,800
Speaker 1: miss again, aren't we, Phil? Never? Sir? Never? All right by.

1862
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 1: The Hunting Collective with Ben O'Brien is a part of

1863
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 1: the Meat Eater podcast network. It is produced by Kren

1864
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 1: Schneider and engineered by Phil Taylor. You can find it

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