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Speaker 2: This week we had Tom Brady on, and it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: One of the questions I get asked a lot, how

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Speaker 2: do you think Tom Brady will do it Fox as

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Speaker 2: a broadcaster. And I've always had this kind of opinion

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Speaker 2: about people. Whatever job you do, you become your personality.

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Speaker 2: So let's just take quarterbacks. So Tony Romo was a

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Speaker 2: playmaking quarterback who was really fun to watch. He was

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Speaker 2: a little loose, wasn't always a fish, but a big playmaker,

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Speaker 2: and I thought he was always underrated. He didn't have

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Speaker 2: Troy Aikman's career, he doesn't have Brady's career, but Romo's

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Speaker 2: personality if you'd met him, it's fun, it's loose, it's

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Speaker 2: only had a two to one touchdown to interception ratio.

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Speaker 2: Tony made some mistakes and threw a lot of picks,

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Speaker 2: but he was also a playmaker and was good off script.

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Speaker 2: And as a broadcaster at CBS, he came out flashy

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Speaker 2: like he was as a player, with a bang, predicting

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Speaker 2: fair or not. That's the criticism from critics, media people

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Speaker 2: as a quarterback, and his style as a broadcaster. Brady

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Speaker 2: think that's his personality. I think that was his football career,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's what he'll be like as a broadcaster.

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Speaker 2: He won't be predicting plays early and get him a

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Speaker 2: lot of attention for that that that won't be that.

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Speaker 2: That's not his personality, that's not his style. He will

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Speaker 2: And I think all broadcasters sort of their careers become

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Speaker 2: But back to Brady, I think I kind of have

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Speaker 2: I think the criticism of analysts is mostly embarrassing, ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: But I think to be a football analyst you have

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Speaker 2: gonna be patient with Brady. I thought people got a

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Speaker 2: I loved watching Romo play. I defended Romo as a

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Speaker 2: just sometimes loose, you know, Tony throw an interception at

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Speaker 2: underappreciated Dallas Cowboy players of all time. Career didn't last

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Speaker 2: Go look at his numbers, google his stats. He had

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Speaker 2: could move. That's why when I said I thought Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow was like going to be a better version of

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Speaker 2: Tony Romo. I always thought Tony Romo was an eight

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Speaker 2: but I thought in Tony's best years he was like

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Speaker 2: a you know, Farv was a plus, Aikman was a

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Speaker 2: what I think you'll get with Brady. So there's been

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Speaker 2: a lot of talk recently. The NBA trading deadline is

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Speaker 2: moving off Lebron James and I don't think this is

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Speaker 2: So Lebron's good for business. The Lakers haven't. They won

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Speaker 2: he's one of the great Lakers of all time, even

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Speaker 2: I think you have to consider if you trade Lebron James,

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Speaker 2: piss off Clutch Sports. And Clutch Sports got a d

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Speaker 2: historically have been very loyal to people that have rewarded them.

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Speaker 2: and I just don't think you'd trade a player like that.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean I'm gonna rebuild my roster solely based

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Speaker 2: on what Lebron wants. But the Lakers are a small

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles has also helped his business career. His net

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Speaker 2: worth is robust, probably over a billion dollars now. But

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Speaker 2: it's it's been a relationship where Lebron has helped the Lakers,

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Speaker 2: the Lakers have helped Lebron. And it's not that the

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Speaker 2: never buy into that nonsense. The bottom line is players

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Speaker 2: good for business. Lebron does interviews after every game. Lebron's

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Speaker 1: How do you match the experience with the coaches on

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Speaker 2: I've been a big defender of Lamar. I love how

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Speaker 1: alone countless turnovers, say Flowers, Lamar Jackson, the fumble, strip sack.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's you're not overcoming that against you know,

427
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Speaker 1: the New Dynasty. It's not possible. But it starts with him.

428
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Speaker 1: I mean the whole building. I would imagine every guy

429
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Speaker 1: and female that bought a ticket felt it early like

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Speaker 1: we're in trouble. This quarterback looks a little off kilter,

431
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Speaker 1: and let's face it, he was all right.

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Speaker 3: Nick Right.

433
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Speaker 2: We do this on Tuesdays, it comes out on Wednesdays.

434
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Speaker 2: We talk about a lot of stuff we don't normally

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Speaker 2: talk about.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's.

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Speaker 2: Interesting we'll kind of pivot to this, the Taylor Swift thing,

438
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Speaker 2: where apparently mag is upset and people are upset with that.

439
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Speaker 2: I did a rant today that made, you know, got

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Speaker 2: a lot of play on I guess I don't see it.

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Speaker 2: TikTok and some.

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Speaker 3: Stuff like that. Is that.

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Speaker 2: It's so here's what's weird to me. I think about

444
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Speaker 2: this a lot. How would my wife and my daughter

445
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Speaker 2: and my stepdaughters judge me if I was bothered by

446
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Speaker 2: thirty seconds of Taylor Swift in a broadcast that lasts

447
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Speaker 2: three and a half hours. Here's what I always wonder

448
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 2: about men, they can't have strong women in their life,

449
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: the fact that a man.

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Speaker 3: If I went on the air.

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Speaker 2: And I was outraged by Taylor Swift and I had like,

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Speaker 2: I have a really bright daughter and bright stepdaughters and

453
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Speaker 2: a smart, savvy, outspoken wife. I have a sister who

454
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: doesn't really follow me, but she'll get stuff on Instagram

455
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Speaker 2: or TikTok.

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Speaker 3: That's my sister too, not if that all interested in

457
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Speaker 3: what I do, but sometimes get sent to her.

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Speaker 2: Yep, what was the non sports stuff? But I always

459
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 2: think about this. If you're a man and you have

460
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Speaker 2: women in your life that you either love or respect,

461
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Speaker 2: don't you have the self awareness to know what an

462
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Speaker 2: f an, idiot and insecure d bag you look like

463
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Speaker 2: being bothered by twenty four seconds of Taylor Swift shots

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Speaker 2: from a box in a three and a half hour broadcast.

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Speaker 3: All right, listen, Taylor Swift was shown almost to the

466
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Speaker 3: second the same amount of time in the Chiefs Ravens

467
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Speaker 3: game as Crabcakes were. So anyone pretending like, oh it

468
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: was too much. They are projecting their own issues on it,

469
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Speaker 3: and it is it is partially yes, everything like that

470
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Speaker 3: I am. It is hard to shock me these days

471
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Speaker 3: at the things people will get mad about. But this

472
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Speaker 3: is shocking. Yeah, this is this. If there was ever

473
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Speaker 3: a feel good story, it's Hey, this guy who try aside.

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Speaker 3: I guess people don't like Travis because he did the

475
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Speaker 3: commercials for Pfizer, Like this is it.

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Speaker 2: I mean Nick Shaquille O'Neil, and I know his agent

477
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Speaker 2: well has taken He's done six hundred ads for a

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Speaker 2: I mean he's if you ask, the answer is yes.

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Speaker 3: The answer is yes, he's doing it for the general

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Speaker 3: who's doing.

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Speaker 2: He's answer, they don't get commercials. He's at the end

482
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Speaker 2: of his career and people are going, hey, will you

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Speaker 2: do it for a million and a half? The answer

484
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Speaker 2: is yes.

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Speaker 3: And also, by the way, even if so, here's why.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna be very honest here for a minute.

487
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Speaker 3: I find a lot of some of the people angry

488
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Speaker 3: about the vaccine stuff to be very intellectually dishonest. Because

489
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Speaker 3: if the stance is, like you have said, don't do mandates,

490
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Speaker 3: my body, my choice, whatever it is, so be it.

491
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Speaker 3: But that must then also mean if Travis Kelcey's like, man,

492
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Speaker 3: I love the fucking vaccine. I think you can save

493
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Speaker 3: people's lives, right, he stream from the mountaintops. Good for end, like,

494
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 3: do whatever you want, but they hate him because of it.

495
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: They hate Travis Kelcey and Aaron didn't help this situation

496
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Speaker 3: going to mister Pize or whatever Taylor like. Shockingly, the

497
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Speaker 3: vast majorities, a majority of pops, young pop stars throughout

498
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Speaker 3: all of American history tend selene liberal. Now, maybe she

499
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Speaker 3: won't in her sixties, but there's not a bunch of

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Speaker 3: super popular twenty something year old musicians in American history

501
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Speaker 3: who's like, man, I'm a hardcore conservative. That is not

502
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Speaker 3: what you know, what I mean what the artistic fields

503
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Speaker 3: typically are. So these two people coming together and they

504
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 3: just hate them. They just hate them, and they I

505
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: think they hate them because they're young, they're happy, they're

506
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 3: good looking, they're successful, and they are jealous. Guess what,

507
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 3: everybody's probably a little jealous of Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift.

508
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: It's like, well, you got a billion five between you.

509
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Speaker 3: He's the best ever at this. You might be the

510
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 3: best ever at that. You do whatever you want, but

511
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 3: there's a level of happy for you seems awesome. There

512
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Speaker 3: used to be something of almost aspirational happiness on behalf

513
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Speaker 3: of others. I feel like when people saw Brady and Giselle,

514
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: there was an element of God, damn man, that's why

515
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 3: you practice so hard in high school, like you might

516
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 3: literally end up marrying a supermodel. Like that's and I

517
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Speaker 3: know that's kind of you know, get what you're saying,

518
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 3: guy stuff, but that is part of it. Is like

519
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: you you know, the the prom queen and the jock

520
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 3: athlete and all that stuff. And I I can't conceptualize

521
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: the people who hate these people. They get angry at it,

522
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: and they're angry because Taylor Swift is shown. Jason Kelsey

523
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 3: was shown more in one playoff game than Taylor's been

524
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Speaker 3: shown in all of them. And I'm talking about a

525
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Speaker 3: playoff game he played in. But go ahead.

526
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Speaker 2: The people bothered by Travis Kelcey, Gisell, Tom, Taylor Swift,

527
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: those aren't successful people. They resent success people that want

528
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: to be on this journey and they just love it.

529
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter what you do. You don't have to be rich,

530
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Speaker 2: but you love the journey, you love other people, you're happy.

531
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Speaker 2: They're not the ones outraged by this.

532
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Speaker 3: So I agree with you to a degree. I think

533
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Speaker 3: you're right that the people who didn't like Tom and

534
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: Giselle and now don't like Taylor and Travis. Those people

535
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Speaker 3: resent success. My fear is that there are a different

536
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Speaker 3: group of people, maybe with some crossover, who were not

537
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: bothered at all previously by uh Tom and Giselle, but

538
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 3: now have gotten so political tribalist. Yes that if I

539
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: know affirmatively you are on the other political teams, Yes,

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00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: I hate you. I just I actively hate you, and

541
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: that and that is It's like, man, I get it.

542
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 3: I don't get the hate, but I understand if if

543
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: you feel someone is constantly preaching their politics even if

544
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: you agree with them, you can be like, man, it's

545
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: a bummer, you know what I mean. I'm not here

546
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 3: for it, all of it. But I don't look at

547
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 3: Travis doing the commercials as preaching politics at all. I

548
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: Tailor wants every election cycle. I think sends out a

549
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 3: link about like registering to vote, and I think she

550
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: endorsed Obama. I think like eight years ago. That's it.

551
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: If that level of like, I A give you an example.

552
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: I if I had the opportunity to sit down with

553
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, I would I'd pay money for it if

554
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: I could sit down and like pick his brain, talk

555
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 3: to him whatever it is. He doesn't preach his politics

556
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: I have for you know, he's at the very least

557
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: buddies with Trump. I'm pretty sure like that. I think

558
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: that's really aligned politically. Yeah, I know conservative, and I

559
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: think he's a Trump guy. Knowing that doesn't make me

560
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: be like man, I hope he never could shool his record.

561
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 3: I hope he's unemployed forever. Like it's like, okay, we

562
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Speaker 3: wouldn't talk about those things, and it is. There is

563
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Speaker 3: just a level of anger. Can I ask you before

564
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Speaker 3: we end real quick, just because you said lists and

565
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Speaker 3: it got my brain going. Right now this moment is

566
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Speaker 3: and I have to ask you mahomes question before we end.

567
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Speaker 3: Is Mahomes, in your opinion, a top two all time quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Yes? So that's that's that's that's interesting. You just found

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Speaker 2: our final topic. So I have no problem separating raw

570
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Speaker 2: talent from productivity. I don't think Bill Russell's nearly as

571
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: good as Kareem was or as dominating as Shack, but

572
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: he was more productive. I can separate those two. I

573
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Speaker 2: think most fans can. You certainly can. Where Mahomes, I

574
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: think Marino is significantly is one of the most gifted throwers,

575
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Speaker 2: if not the most gifted thrower. I watched his prime.

576
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: He was a machine, big, strong, fast, quick. He was

577
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Speaker 2: like Aaron Rodgers with more size, more of a power,

578
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Speaker 2: I mean he had.

579
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Speaker 3: It was just he was.

580
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Speaker 2: He was better than Elway at just throwing a ball

581
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Speaker 2: in Lway was great. Marino, I'd never seen anything like Elway.

582
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Speaker 2: I think if Aaron Rodgers was just was bigger and

583
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: more natural. And no, JC was the best high schooler,

584
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: the best college guy. He just had those rumors that

585
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: hurt him in the draft. But he wasn't productive like

586
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Speaker 2: a Brady or a Manning. So what you're seeing with

587
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Speaker 2: Mahomes now is the most naturally gifted player, including Marino.

588
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: He's the most naturally gifted.

589
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: Yep.

590
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Speaker 1: And now the production is.

591
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: As it's insane. And I pushed back early when Tom

592
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: beat him a couple of times, and I'm like, it's

593
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: slow down, Okay. Now he's stacking chips, like stacking everything.

594
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: You have to win a couple World Series of pokers,

595
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: you know you could be the bigger brain. Let's say

596
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: you're an academic and you you're beating the late Doyle Brunson,

597
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: and who's a smart guy. But You're like, the dude,

598
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: is this Elon Musky, smart guy? But you can never

599
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: win the World Series of Poker. You win six out

600
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Speaker 2: of seven, okay, then you're the greatest.

601
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Speaker 3: So that's so listen, Mahomes, it's just on the accomplishment's route.

602
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: I look at it like a marathon. And if you

603
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 3: ever look at the Olympics, if you're watching someone run

604
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: the sixteen hundred meters after one lap, they tell you

605
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 3: are they on world record pace?

606
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Speaker 1: Right? Yeah?

607
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: Knowing and be like hadn't done it yet. It's like, well,

608
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: the race ain't over All we can do is judge

609
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: the pace. So Brady, we did this on the show today.

610
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 3: Twenty two seasons as a start, because you take out

611
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: both of their rookie years because luckily both of them

612
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: didn't play the rookie years. Twenty two seasons as a starter.

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00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: Seven super Bowls, which is bananas. That's thirty thirty two percent.

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00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: Ten super Bowl appearances that's forty five percent. Fourteen conference

615
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: championship games that's sixty four percent, Mahomes as of this moment,

616
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: two super Bowls in six years, that's thirty three percent.

617
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: Just out of Brady four super Bowl appearances in six years,

618
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Speaker 3: that's sixty seven percent, way ahead of Brady, and six

619
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Speaker 3: for six on conference championship games that's one hundred percent.

620
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: That's way ahead. If he wins in two weeks. Now,

621
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: he's fifty percent of his years as a starter, he's

622
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl, sixty seven percent he's been there,

623
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: and the other two years he lost in overtime the

624
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: round before. So the production, he is on pace to

625
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: shatter everybody's the numbers, he's on pace to shatter everybodys.

626
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 3: So this is where I So you said I like lists,

627
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 3: So this is my quarterback lists, and it is kind

628
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 3: of a rich tapestry of raw talent accomplishments. I test

629
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: all of it. Brady is one for now, Mahomes is two,

630
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: Hayton Manning is three, Joe Montana four, Elway Marino is

631
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 3: really hard five six six ' five because Elway went

632
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 3: to five Super Bowls, has more MVPs, has more rings,

633
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 3: and I kind of feel like, but Marino was better,

634
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: Like I know that sounds shitty, but and then rounding

635
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 3: it out of guys like what I would call modern era,

636
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: so like post Bradshaw, Stabuch post that is Rogers, Brett

637
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: and the who I think is the most underrated of

638
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: all time. And Steve Young, yes, was the closest thing

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Speaker 3: to Mahomes before Mahomes as far as creativity, athleticism. Crazy.

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Speaker 3: So like I think if Mahomes, like I'm ready to

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Speaker 3: say Mahomes was is better than Peyton Mannick, like I

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Speaker 3: have him ahead, and Peyton won five MVPs and I

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Speaker 3: think he can run down Tom. I don't, And I

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Speaker 3: don't think Tom did something interesting because Tom was on

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Speaker 3: with you you know, he did a couple of interviews

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Speaker 3: today and in one of them he was asked about

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Speaker 3: Mahomes and Tom said, you know, was talking about how

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Speaker 3: great he is and all these things, and then he

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Speaker 3: was like, listen, man, because he was asked about someone

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Speaker 3: else being the goat, and he said at the end

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Speaker 3: it was so it was so slick. He was like, listen,

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Speaker 3: if anyone can get to seven super Bowls, like I

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Speaker 3: want to shake their hand, because I like he's he

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Speaker 3: fade it very clear. Oh yeah, someone else can be

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Speaker 3: the goat. They better get seven fucking rings though, because

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Speaker 3: I don't want to hear nothing about someone because he

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Speaker 3: knows seven's gonna be hard. But so he's like that's

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Speaker 3: the standard. Just to be clear, get to seven and

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Speaker 3: we can talk. But I don't think you have to

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Speaker 3: get to seven. Like the point I always make forget Russell.

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Speaker 3: Michael Jordan retired the first time, retired in nineteen ninety three,

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Speaker 3: had three rings. Magic was still playing at that time,

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Speaker 3: had five. Kareem had just retired, had six. You know

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Speaker 3: what they put on Michael's statue, the greatest there ever was,

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Speaker 3: the greatest ever will be. They weren't counting rings. Then

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Speaker 3: they were like, no, we saw him. He's better than everybody.

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Speaker 3: He's the best. Nobody ever started, by the way, counting

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Speaker 3: rings until Michael got the most, and then people were like, oh,

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Speaker 3: we got to count the rings and he's still I

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Speaker 3: mean the most kind of the most. And so I

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Speaker 3: Brady Brady does have. It's not like Brady doesn't have

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Speaker 3: eye test stuff. Brady is as great of a leader,

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Speaker 3: clutch all of it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, throws as good a bad weather ball

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Speaker 2: as I've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: Super important, super important, and the ass all the great

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Speaker 3: organizations are norm right, yeah, exactly right, and so all

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Speaker 3: that matters. So I'm not trying to discount Tom at all.

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Speaker 3: But Patrick's got a path here if they can win.

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Speaker 3: They they traded away Tyreek Hill and said, we're taking

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Speaker 3: the long view of it. Yes, it was a defense.

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Speaker 3: We have the second this year, the chiefs of the

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Speaker 3: second youngest evens of football. If the first two years

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Speaker 3: without Tyreek Hill they peel both rings. Yeah, then all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, you're back ahead of the pace and

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Speaker 3: people throw the two and zero at me all the

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Speaker 3: time he was two and oho listen to the super Bowls

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Speaker 3: and the Super Bowl Tampa kicked Mahomes' ass. Everybody go

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Speaker 3: rewatch the twenty eighteen AFC title game. That's one of

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Speaker 3: the two wins, and tell me who played better that game, Like,

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Speaker 3: don't you can't hold that one against Patrick.

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