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Speaker 1: Diana a loco. Welcome Diana. How are you? I am wonderful.
Speaker 1: It's so good to hear your voice, jays Well, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Now where do we begin? Let's begin
Speaker 1: at the beginning day. Hey, I got it, I have
Speaker 1: I have an idea. How about I asked you a question,
Speaker 1: is that okay, do you remember the day that I
Speaker 1: cut off radio stations from the studio? No? No, So
Speaker 1: I wanted to tell that story before you started asking
Speaker 1: me questions because it is so hilarious in retrospect. At
Speaker 1: the time, it was very traumatic for everyone. But if
Speaker 1: you remember what happened when I first started, they wanted
Speaker 1: me to sit in the studio to absorb all that
Speaker 1: I could of the atmosphere, and I sat to the
Speaker 1: right of you for a few years. If you remember,
Speaker 1: you were screening calls, and then I sat to the
Speaker 1: seat next to you. Then there was Mike, Mamone and
Speaker 1: Kit in the room typically, and this one day Rush
Speaker 1: was remotely broadcasting. I think he was in California, but
Speaker 1: as long as he was there, it didn't really matter
Speaker 1: where here was. I don't remember where it was, but
Speaker 1: he was broadcasting remotely. And at the time you would
Speaker 1: speak to him by pushing a button on the board
Speaker 1: every time you wanted to add or he had a
Speaker 1: question for you, so you would keep up your repartee
Speaker 1: that you usually did well. I used to have comments
Speaker 1: that he invited me to also make comments and I
Speaker 1: would tell you, because you were right near the microphone,
Speaker 1: and I would tell you my comment, and then you
Speaker 1: would tell Rush I comment. And after a while, I
Speaker 1: think you got tired of it, and you said, hey,
Speaker 1: why don't you push the button yourself if you have
Speaker 1: something to say to Rush. So, fortunately, James, this was
Speaker 1: during an advertisement, an advertising break. I had something to
Speaker 1: say to Rush, and I pushed the button and I
Speaker 1: went to make my comment, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Kit and Mike and You started standing up and scrambling around,
Speaker 1: and it was like the e R pushing buttons and
Speaker 1: redoing this and doing that, and I was like, what happened?
Speaker 1: And you said to me that I had cut Rush
Speaker 1: off from his entire e I V network of five,
Speaker 1: the main field. So fortunately you all scrambled and you all,
Speaker 1: you know, got the connection going again during the advertising break,
Speaker 1: and so Rush basically as you, Hey, what the hell happened?
Speaker 1: And you did not throw me at underbus. I'm still
Speaker 1: grateful for it. You said, oh, yeah, there was a
Speaker 1: satellite uploop glitch of some FOD and you covered me.
Speaker 1: And as far as I know, Rush never knew what
Speaker 1: really happened. That you had some woman in the studio
Speaker 1: basically pushed the wrong button. So, okay, let's talk about
Speaker 1: um you for a minute. When did you first hear
Speaker 1: Russia Lamball? When did you first become aware of that
Speaker 1: there was this guy on the radio Russia Lumba. Well,
Speaker 1: it is a really cool story. Actually, I was the
Speaker 1: one of the four issue editors at the Reader's Digest,
Speaker 1: and it was my job to choose all the material
Speaker 1: for one full issue. There were four of us and
Speaker 1: we rotated, and so I was working on I believe
Speaker 1: it was the possibly May issue, and I was in
Speaker 1: charge of picking all the stories. And there had been
Speaker 1: I believe, in Atlantic profile of Rush Limbaugh, and that
Speaker 1: was the first time I had ever heard his name.
Speaker 1: It was a wonderful profile, very positive, and I thought, man,
Speaker 1: this will be just perfect for the issue. It a
Speaker 1: round it out. It's different this this guy has such personality,
Speaker 1: and it's radio, which we didn't have a lot of
Speaker 1: material on, so I scheduled it for that issue. When
Speaker 1: I was putting together and one of the editors who
Speaker 1: was working underneath me, whose job it was to edit
Speaker 1: it condense it. Of course, we condensed everything at the
Speaker 1: Reader's Digest, she brought it in finished ready for my keen,
Speaker 1: and she said, by the way, you should listen to
Speaker 1: this guy, because I said, Wyn, he sounds so cool.
Speaker 1: She said, nothing competes with hearing him yourself. And that
Speaker 1: woman's name was Susan France, and I later hired her
Speaker 1: for the Limball let or believe it or not, but
Speaker 1: she was the one who introduced me to the idea
Speaker 1: that you had to hear him. And I went out
Speaker 1: on my lunch break, turned on the radio in my
Speaker 1: car and I was immediately hooked. I know everyone has
Speaker 1: those same experiences. And from that time I spent every
Speaker 1: lunch hour in the editorial library at the Reader's Digest
Speaker 1: secretly listening to Russia show as much as I could.
Speaker 1: So it actually was, you know, necessary for me to
Speaker 1: work for him, because it was kind of unethical to
Speaker 1: be paid by the Reader's Digests and spending an hour
Speaker 1: listening to the Russia Limbo. So how did it come
Speaker 1: about that you became the Limba letter the edit Tricks
Speaker 1: of the Limb, as Rush calls you of the letter. Well,
Speaker 1: right after that, I think a month or two after that,
Speaker 1: I heard through the grapevine that Rush was starting a publication,
Speaker 1: and I thought, man, I'm made for that. And I
Speaker 1: saw an advertisement in the New York Times. That's how
Speaker 1: we found there was no online applying for jobs or
Speaker 1: searching for jobs in those days. This was the early nineties,
Speaker 1: and so I read the New York Times. I was
Speaker 1: in publishing, and that's where the want ads were for
Speaker 1: the publishing world. And so I saw this little two
Speaker 1: line um ad wanted editor for new publication combines humor
Speaker 1: and conservative politics. And I knew, I'm like, okay, there's
Speaker 1: only one person on the planet who combines humor and
Speaker 1: conservative politics. And since I already had gotten win that
Speaker 1: there was a new publication starting, and so I sent
Speaker 1: to the company. I sent a two line letter that said,
Speaker 1: I hear you're starting Excellence in Publications and I am
Speaker 1: very interested, and I gave my contact information. So they
Speaker 1: called me and I had an interview. You know what's fun.
Speaker 1: The second interview was with Rush himself, and I did
Speaker 1: not know it at the time, but it was because
Speaker 1: of something I didn't say in the interview process that
Speaker 1: I got the job. I didn't ask anybody about benefits.
Speaker 1: I didn't ask any aboue about vacation time, I didn't
Speaker 1: ask anybody about anything other than what they wanted in
Speaker 1: the job itself. And I learned later that that was
Speaker 1: just a bug a boo that Rush had that he
Speaker 1: couldn't stand people who just wanted to know as soon
Speaker 1: as they were being interviewed, what are the benefits and
Speaker 1: when's my vacation? And so the fact that I didn't
Speaker 1: ask those what put me in the plus column. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember the day you first that you were first
Speaker 1: introduced to the staff. Beautiful dark haired woman comes in
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Wow, who's that. That's That's the person
Speaker 1: that's going to start the Russ lumbab newsletter, and and yeah,
Speaker 1: and so you hung out with us in the studio
Speaker 1: a while and then out rolls issue number one, and
Speaker 1: issue number one I still half of the limbo letter,
Speaker 1: and it was what it was like, four pages. I
Speaker 1: think when it first was it four pages? It wasn't.
Speaker 1: It was eight eight pages. They started with basically two
Speaker 1: color news print eight pages. And you know, to me,
Speaker 1: they had given me a few months to sit in
Speaker 1: the studio and absorb Rush as much as possible. And
Speaker 1: my job was to try and contain lightning in a
Speaker 1: bottle basically is to distill that down somehow into eight
Speaker 1: pages every month a daily radio show about the news.
Speaker 1: So that was a you know, my greatest professional challenge,
Speaker 1: I think, was to figure out a way of containing
Speaker 1: him into print and you know, as much as it
Speaker 1: is possible. And that's why I immediately said, well, eight
Speaker 1: pages is never gonna be enough, and we bumped it
Speaker 1: up to well and then to sixteen, which is what
Speaker 1: lasted its whole life, and then we went full color
Speaker 1: because it had to be to contain Rush. So it
Speaker 1: was a real interesting thing to figure out a way.
Speaker 1: And I noticed that he talked big picture as well
Speaker 1: as news, and so I was trying to every month
Speaker 1: hit on for the cover story, help him, you know,
Speaker 1: basically convey his main theme of that month. So there
Speaker 1: we're big picture items that would fit in a monthly publication.
Speaker 1: And that was the fun of it, is to write down, oh, yes,
Speaker 1: he's talking about this important subject, education or whatever it was.
Speaker 1: And then you know, the smaller items we could do,
Speaker 1: the news items, the funny things, and the stupid quotes.
Speaker 1: So we try to combine both humor and substance. And
Speaker 1: he always wanted to do original research in the newsletter,
Speaker 1: So it wasn't a duplication of what was on the radio.
Speaker 1: Know it all all right? Tell us what it was
Speaker 1: like working with Rush? First time you met him, it
Speaker 1: was the interview? What about after that? What happened? How?
Speaker 1: How did you What was your relationship like with Rush? Well?
Speaker 1: Rush was wonderful. I mean, I'm going to get choked up,
Speaker 1: but I loved him and he was the best boss
Speaker 1: ever because he, as I think you said earlier, he
Speaker 1: would choose self starters and people that he felt would
Speaker 1: be independent, work independently and just let us go. And
Speaker 1: so he was not a person who looked over the
Speaker 1: shoulder or micromanaged. He trusted us and that trust was
Speaker 1: such an honor and it really got the best work
Speaker 1: out of all of us. I think we all wanted
Speaker 1: to please him, and we all wanted him to be
Speaker 1: approving of what the work was, and so we gave
Speaker 1: it our very best every single day. And also we
Speaker 1: knew that's what he was doing, so he set the
Speaker 1: tone for excellence. You know, basically the entire team wide,
Speaker 1: and everyone worked well together because of that. We all
Speaker 1: had the same mindset. But you know, if you don't mind,
Speaker 1: I have a memory of a pretty funny thing where
Speaker 1: I think I got my nickname at a tricks and
Speaker 1: this was in He wanted to do a reprint not
Speaker 1: only of the thirty five Undeniable Truths of Life, but
Speaker 1: also update them. So we had a new thirty five Undeniables.
Speaker 1: But as I was talking to him, he was standing
Speaker 1: in my office. I had the office next to him
Speaker 1: at the time, and he came in and were discussing it,
Speaker 1: and I corrected him on uh, the number twenty four.
Speaker 1: Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women of
Speaker 1: access to the mainstream of society. And I said to him, hey, Rush,
Speaker 1: you just worded that wrong. You've got too many words
Speaker 1: in there. It should be Feminism was established to allow
Speaker 1: you don't need the sow as to it's just superfluous.
Speaker 1: And so he looked to me after kind of giving
Speaker 1: me that one eyed look, and he said, let me
Speaker 1: tell you. He says, you have three hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: five radio stations and then you could write it however
Speaker 1: you want. And I looked at him and I said,
Speaker 1: point taken. And I immediately he laughed. He was he
Speaker 1: was being very funny, but he had a boy and
Speaker 1: I laughed and he left, and after that he started
Speaker 1: going atriss. So I think there was a little bit
Speaker 1: of dominatrix soon because I had argued with him and
Speaker 1: I wanted to correct his ridic So I got a note.
Speaker 1: I got an email here from the edit Drinks and
Speaker 1: the limb Ball letter that's the most widely read politic
Speaker 1: the newsletter in America. Dear boss, I sadly think your
Speaker 1: caller is right. I think Hillary is going to be
Speaker 1: on a higher platform to make her look equal to Trump,
Speaker 1: a podium, and she's got dictionary definitions here, as though
Speaker 1: I don't know what these things are. A podium. A
Speaker 1: podium is the raised platform on which the speaker stands
Speaker 1: to deliver his or her speech. Podium derived from the
Speaker 1: Greek word as a podiatrist. A lector is a raised,
Speaker 1: slanted stand on which a speaker can place his or
Speaker 1: her notes or secret teleprompter. Electorn is derived from the
Speaker 1: Latin word electus, a past participle of the verb legear,
Speaker 1: which means to eat vegetables. The word elector comes from
Speaker 1: the same source. So I was confused anyway. It's a
Speaker 1: long way of saying that the corner might have been
Speaker 1: right that they're gonna have her jacked up. Each week
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Speaker 1: The Life of Russia Limbaugh, Chapter ten, narrated by Scott Bayo.
Speaker 1: On November fourth, two thousand and eight, America made history
Speaker 1: by electing its first black president, and known for his
Speaker 1: signature cutting edge analysis and insight, Russia. Limbaugh was quick
Speaker 1: to explain how Barack Obama was able to convince so
Speaker 1: many Americans to vote for him. In fact, Russia was
Speaker 1: very detailed as to why Obama's election victory was so decisive.
Speaker 1: The main reason Obama was elected was a bunch of
Speaker 1: people in this country very distressed and fed up but
Speaker 1: the ongoing allegation that they and the rest of the
Speaker 1: country were bunch of racists and bigots, and they believed
Speaker 1: that if they participated in electing the first African American president,
Speaker 1: that they could do away with that charge. They could
Speaker 1: do away with that notion that idea. I firmly believe
Speaker 1: that the vast majority outside of the Democrat but the
Speaker 1: vast majority of white votes for Obama were made with
Speaker 1: that hope. After eight years of conservative leadership on the president,
Speaker 1: George W. Bush Rush was eager, willing, and ready to
Speaker 1: resume his role as chief conservative critic in opposition to
Speaker 1: the Obama regime. As he frequently labeled, and it fits
Speaker 1: what the hell else is it? But not a regime.
Speaker 1: It didn't take long for Rush to start making waves
Speaker 1: with only four little words just before inauguration, they I
Speaker 1: hope he fails. I wanted Obama to fail so that
Speaker 1: my country would not. I wanted Obama's liberal agenda, his
Speaker 1: socialist community organizer agenda, to fail. I did not, and
Speaker 1: never have and never will want a are it could
Speaker 1: have failed, Never, no way. I wanted America to be saved.
Speaker 1: Rush soon found plenty more to criticize and what became
Speaker 1: the signatures of the Obama administration. From Obamacare to the
Speaker 1: closing of GIBMO. They ran nuclear deal to Obama's border tactics,
Speaker 1: and much much more. For Rush Limbaugh, the Obama years
Speaker 1: were chock full of policies and bad politics to dissect
Speaker 1: for tens of millions of listeners daily, and throughout Obama's
Speaker 1: two terms in office, rushed to great pride in telling
Speaker 1: his listeners that he had no doubt the president was
Speaker 1: one of them. As he often explained on air, not
Speaker 1: only was Obama paying attention to him, he was fixated
Speaker 1: on him. The Republicans are only concerned about what's on
Speaker 1: Fox News or what Rush Limbaugh saying, and Democrats are
Speaker 1: looking at the New York Times or Huffington Post. So
Speaker 1: Obama comes into office telling Republicans that they can't listen
Speaker 1: to Rush Limbaugh anymore and get things done. That's just
Speaker 1: not how it happens in Washington. And he's leaving office
Speaker 1: having failed to remove one of his and impediments from
Speaker 1: his equation, and that would be me. So after eight years, Obama,
Speaker 1: he comes into office with me living rent free in
Speaker 1: his hand, and I'm still there. It could be said
Speaker 1: today that during the Obama administration, Rush Limbaugh was at
Speaker 1: his best, staunchly defending conservative principles and standing up for
Speaker 1: America and its exceptionalism. But in the end, whether at
Speaker 1: his best or even on a bad day, a few
Speaker 1: could touch Russia. Limbaugh the Obama chapter was but just
Speaker 1: eight years of more than thirty of unprecedented broadcast excellence. Unforgettable.
Speaker 1: That's the impression that you, the Russia Limbaugh audience made
Speaker 1: with your support for Russia's last charitable effort while Rush
Speaker 1: was still with us through the Stand Up for Betsy
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Speaker 1: the letter T dot org. So this was a relationship
Speaker 1: that started in the nineties and and and continued right
Speaker 1: up until the time that Rush left us. And so
Speaker 1: all those years, I mean, what what what what's your
Speaker 1: takeaway from working with with Rush? Although those years, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you remember the Nightline appearance.
Speaker 1: I think it was April of and he had been
Speaker 1: on along with Carville and some other you know, one
Speaker 1: New York Times writer, and it was a town hall.
Speaker 1: It was supposed to be about Hillary and healthcare. And
Speaker 1: this was before the midterm elections where the Republicans took over,
Speaker 1: as they used to quote the Republican takeover. So this
Speaker 1: was still in the honeymoon phase of the Clinton administration.
Speaker 1: And Ted Copple really liked Rush at that point and
Speaker 1: had him on. He was the only one who wasn't
Speaker 1: physically in the town hall I think Iowa. And he
Speaker 1: was supposed to talk about healthcare and Hillary Care, and
Speaker 1: he was the first person up and he immediately changed
Speaker 1: the subject, did not talk about anything other than all
Speaker 1: the lies that these people that Clinton's had been promulgating
Speaker 1: about Whitewater, and he started talking listening them. He rattat,
Speaker 1: you know, the billing records, Whitewater, and went on and on,
Speaker 1: and the rest of the group was there to talk
Speaker 1: about healthcare, and they simply just ignore, basically what Rush
Speaker 1: had said. They didn't respond to it. And the next
Speaker 1: day we were all you remember this, We were all
Speaker 1: standing in the hallway before the show, and I said
Speaker 1: to Rush, Hey, Rush, did you notice that you basically
Speaker 1: accused them on television, national television of being liars and
Speaker 1: they didn't defend her. And he did what you and
Speaker 1: I used to call that sponge thing. He would look
Speaker 1: so intently at you when you were talking, and he
Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily say anything. And this was the first time
Speaker 1: I had experienced it, and he had this piercing look,
Speaker 1: and he listened to what I had to say, and
Speaker 1: he didn't respond. He just walked down the hallway to
Speaker 1: the studio. And then he kind of used that as
Speaker 1: his jumping off point. And then a few days later
Speaker 1: there was the Pretty and Pink conference because Hillary knew
Speaker 1: she had not been defended by her own people on
Speaker 1: national TV, and so that was the first time I
Speaker 1: knew he was probably the best listener that I have
Speaker 1: ever encountered in my life. He had the ability, and
Speaker 1: even after he lost his hearing, he had the ability
Speaker 1: to absorb information, filter it into this amazing creative mind
Speaker 1: he had, and be able to then transform it and
Speaker 1: bring it out as the Rush take, because he would
Speaker 1: take things that we all would suggest or give a
Speaker 1: line or whatever, and he would make it into something
Speaker 1: miraculous and amazing. And to watch him do that, live
Speaker 1: that ability to spontaneously think on ninety different levels at once,
Speaker 1: I tell you that was We all have talked about
Speaker 1: how much we love him and his generosity and his character,
Speaker 1: and all those things are true. And the thing that
Speaker 1: I also appreciate so much as his mind, the most
Speaker 1: brilliant human being that I have ever been in the
Speaker 1: presence of, and yet very very gentle and kind and
Speaker 1: of all good character. But his brilliance was aside. To behold,
Speaker 1: we will never ever ever be in the presence of
Speaker 1: someone as brilliant as him. Again, you made a reference
Speaker 1: to it, and I want to just get you to
Speaker 1: expand on it. The Sponge Rush had this uncanny ability
Speaker 1: to absorb information like nobody else. He could read something
Speaker 1: and and pick out points that and and find points
Speaker 1: in it and talk about points that no one else
Speaker 1: saw in an article. It could be a sentence and
Speaker 1: he could then launch into an original take from that
Speaker 1: that would turn into a monologue. He would talk to
Speaker 1: people and and something a sentence that they would say.
Speaker 1: He could develop an entire line of thought that no
Speaker 1: one else in the media would have. This guy he
Speaker 1: took everything in and he would say, show prep is
Speaker 1: life is show prep. He would take everything in. He
Speaker 1: read an incredible amount of material every single day he
Speaker 1: had to in order to do a show. And but
Speaker 1: he would also listen him and you you you pointed
Speaker 1: that out too. He would listen to people on the staff.
Speaker 1: He would talk with them, and you didn't get a
Speaker 1: lot of time. It was, it was, it was. It
Speaker 1: was just the most uncanny thing, absolutely, and I think
Speaker 1: you hit on something so important and I'm sure other
Speaker 1: people have mentioned it, but not the conventional wisdom. The
Speaker 1: fact that he could not stand group thing. He hated
Speaker 1: the conventional wisdom. It was almost physical with him, and
Speaker 1: so that natural inclination to ignore what everyone else's take
Speaker 1: was on something that he wanted to make sure that
Speaker 1: whatever his observations were, and his conclusions from that were
Speaker 1: were absolutely original, and that is why everybody tuned in
Speaker 1: every day. And you and I, if you remember, we
Speaker 1: used to try and predict an event would happen, and
Speaker 1: we'd say, what do you think Russia's taken? And you know,
Speaker 1: we would sometimes be close, but these we were with
Speaker 1: him all the time, and we couldn't predict on a
Speaker 1: regular basis because it was so original. And that is
Speaker 1: something that I think so many people, especially as critics,
Speaker 1: took for granted about him because they didn't understand that
Speaker 1: was why so many people tuned in every day. And
Speaker 1: you and I both know that he used to say
Speaker 1: something like, you know, saying more in five seconds than
Speaker 1: you know, most hosts say in a lifetime, and that
Speaker 1: was so true. Once he moved to Florida and I
Speaker 1: started working from home, I could not leave my radio,
Speaker 1: I could not use the facilities in the house because
Speaker 1: I would miss two seconds of what he would say
Speaker 1: coming back from a break, and it would be important
Speaker 1: and significant. And so that hanging onto every word was
Speaker 1: due to his original thinking and because he was hilarious
Speaker 1: when you when you look back on it on and
Speaker 1: I asked the question want to ask it again. First
Speaker 1: of all, doing what you did is not easy, because
Speaker 1: Rush never wanted to quote unquote cannibalize the radio show,
Speaker 1: So he didn't want the same things in the newsletter
Speaker 1: exactly as he laid it out on the radio. And
Speaker 1: he would say that he did not want to cannibalize
Speaker 1: the radio show. But you had the job of making
Speaker 1: sure that this profound thinker who could articulate things so well,
Speaker 1: also was represented in the print medium. And the print
Speaker 1: medium is very different than the spoken word medium. Yes,
Speaker 1: and that was a hard Chalee. I'll talk to you
Speaker 1: about the issue that came out right after Rush past.
Speaker 1: It was almost as if I don't know it was
Speaker 1: god thing, I guess because it was, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: with God, you know God is with me. Actually, how
Speaker 1: did that issue happened? Did you kind of was there
Speaker 1: some sort of sense of knowing? What? What? How did
Speaker 1: that issue come about? Well? It was really interesting how
Speaker 1: that came about, because I think Rush knew because that
Speaker 1: was a throwaway line in a long monernologue about something else.
Speaker 1: And I thought that the sentence that he said on
Speaker 1: the air was so poignant, and he said God is
Speaker 1: with me, and I put that on the list of suggestions. Um,
Speaker 1: it wasn't the first because he was talking about other things,
Speaker 1: but I did put that on because I thought what
Speaker 1: a powerful sentence that just was. And he chose that
Speaker 1: for the cover. And at the time, of course I
Speaker 1: didn't know. We knew he was very ill, but we
Speaker 1: didn't know, and I think he may have and that's
Speaker 1: why he picked it. And he chose the art of
Speaker 1: him basically with praying him, and that was a beautiful cover.
Speaker 1: And I felt so honored to have helped that come about,
Speaker 1: because I know Catherine held that up at the Sea
Speaker 1: Pack meeting and so that meant a lot to her,
Speaker 1: and it meant a lot, I think to all of us.
Speaker 1: How are you going to remember Rush? You know, I
Speaker 1: mostly as great just his greatness, and you know, you
Speaker 1: know when you're in the presence of greatness, and he was,
Speaker 1: so he didn't wear that on his sleeve. He was
Speaker 1: so wonderful to be around, fun just you know, hilarious,
Speaker 1: and he always interacted with people as equals, you know,
Speaker 1: it was there was never a sense I'm the great
Speaker 1: one and kissed my ring. There was none of that.
Speaker 1: He would just joke around with everybody and enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: And however, just being in his presence and knowing how
Speaker 1: wise and wonderful and brilliant and how he helped this country.
Speaker 1: I remember when I first was hired that at that
Speaker 1: time there was the similar feeling in the country you
Speaker 1: couldn't say out loud of things you thought, and here
Speaker 1: was this guy on the radio. Do you remember people
Speaker 1: used to call up and say, are you allowed to
Speaker 1: say this on the air? People were shocked to keep
Speaker 1: hear that their own ideas and wisdom reflected back at
Speaker 1: them in such a compelling way. So what he did
Speaker 1: was he gave voice to all of us. And I
Speaker 1: have been so honored to have at the part of
Speaker 1: my career as well is just to be to be
Speaker 1: a supporter of getting his message to as many people
Speaker 1: possible that America is wonderful and we will fight for her.
Speaker 1: So I would say, his great is and I think
Speaker 1: the term you used was, you know, a second generation
Speaker 1: founding father, and you wrote the cover story for that
Speaker 1: for the Limbo Letter last month, and that he is
Speaker 1: going to be remembered as one of the greatest Americans
Speaker 1: who ever lived. I miss him. So before we wrap
Speaker 1: up on masks one more time, anything else that you'd
Speaker 1: like to add that you haven't said. Just what an
Speaker 1: honor it's been personally for me to be part of
Speaker 1: this team. And you know I will remember with just
Speaker 1: great love and joy every single moment that I was
Speaker 1: a part of the Rush team. Now I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: say this to you, Um, the folks. Diana is one
Speaker 1: of my best friends on the face of the art. Um.
Speaker 1: She There was a time when I first started working
Speaker 1: with Rush that Um and Diana had come on board,
Speaker 1: and I realized how brilliant this woman was, and I
Speaker 1: felt almost inadequate, and I remember asking, how how do
Speaker 1: I It was so funny, how do I get as
Speaker 1: smart as you people? You guys, do you remember that?
Speaker 1: Do you remember those conversations? You don't remember. I don't
Speaker 1: remember that because it was because it's obviously so not true.
Speaker 1: I mean, you are way quicker than me, and you
Speaker 1: are got all kinds of wit and wisdom, and if
Speaker 1: anyone could predict a Rush take, you were as close.
Speaker 1: So what I did was though you you recommended that
Speaker 1: at the time, because I kept pressing you on it,
Speaker 1: so you recommended that. I watched two or three different shows.
Speaker 1: I won't reveal what they were because they're all going
Speaker 1: now anyway, Um, you said, every night, if you really
Speaker 1: want to get to where the landscape is politically in
Speaker 1: this country, watch this, this, this, this, read this, this, this, this,
Speaker 1: and with then two or three months, you'll you'll have
Speaker 1: it down. And I did, and I did. What good advice? Yes,
Speaker 1: what good advice? And uh but but beyond that, you know, um,
Speaker 1: you have with the Limball Letter, like every like every
Speaker 1: body else that that reads the Limball Letter, it's an
Speaker 1: impressive it is an impressive body of work that that
Speaker 1: you and Rush put together there. And I hope that, uh,
Speaker 1: that limb Ball Letter is looked at by historians and
Speaker 1: by educators for what it is. It is truly reflective
Speaker 1: of a time, those thirty three years, those those that
Speaker 1: thirty period. How how many years did you you didn't
Speaker 1: start at the beginning? How many years? Nope? Started in
Speaker 1: the first issue was the October issues, so we we
Speaker 1: will this October will be our twenty nine. So only
Speaker 1: nine years, almost thirty years, the Limball Letter stood as
Speaker 1: the the number one political newsletter in America. And and
Speaker 1: you are largely responsible for that, along with Russian what
Speaker 1: an amazing thing. Then well, Russia is the one the
Speaker 1: inspiration for it all. And I have to say, at
Speaker 1: the time a lot of people copied him, and there
Speaker 1: was the various newsletters I won't name for other hosts
Speaker 1: who I won't name, and they lasted maybe a year
Speaker 1: or two, and Rush has lasted this long and it's
Speaker 1: because of him. But I gloat. No, you recite history honestly.
Speaker 1: Low alright, Diana, thank you. I really appreciate you. Thank you.
Speaker 1: James ye parable about pictured worth a thousand words. The
Speaker 1: Limbaugh letter this this month was worth the whole library.
Speaker 1: It was great of Limbo letter. It said it all, well,
Speaker 1: thank you sir. You know, we don't get a lot
Speaker 1: of calls about the Limball Letter, but when we do,
Speaker 1: everybody on that staff just loves it. The Limball Letter
Speaker 1: is sixty. People don't know how difficult that is because
Speaker 1: look at fifteen hours a week here on the radio.
Speaker 1: That is that is then reproduced on the website, and
Speaker 1: then here's the sixteen page monthly publication that's not on digital.
Speaker 1: What do you do to put things in it that
Speaker 1: that haven't been said? It's a it's a monthly challenge
Speaker 1: and the people that put that together are excellent at it.
Speaker 1: I agree, it's good. It's good magazine and they follow
Speaker 1: my example. That's why it's great. And but really it
Speaker 1: all candor. It is it is fifteen hours a week.
Speaker 1: What is They're not said? It turns out a lot.
Speaker 1: And the newsletter is the repository for So I'm really
Speaker 1: flattered that you mentioned that whoever had to cover that
Speaker 1: was that was brilliant. That was brant. Today you get
Speaker 1: a chance to hear from Denise and May, who is
Speaker 1: the creative director not just for the Limball Letter, but
Speaker 1: for I Heart Media and Premier Networks. And Denise welcome,
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good? How are you? James? It's
Speaker 1: so good to hear your voice. And well, that's good
Speaker 1: to hear your voice as well. Now listen, you came
Speaker 1: on board. I remember when you came on board. You
Speaker 1: were a young thing. Yeah, it was four years old.
Speaker 1: I mean I can't even like, Yeah, it was amazing
Speaker 1: and so um all I remember we started the newsletter
Speaker 1: Diana a loco, who's the edit tricks of the Limball Letter.
Speaker 1: And then the next person that was hired was you.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. The first time
Speaker 1: you met Rush? What was that? Like? Oh my god.
Speaker 1: It was at a party and um, I was invited
Speaker 1: to when we were doing some sort of dinner and
Speaker 1: he was standing there and it was a group and
Speaker 1: I think it was John Axton who said, you know, Denise,
Speaker 1: come over here. I want to introduce you to Rush.
Speaker 1: And I remember like being completely awestruck. Just be like, Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan, That's what I said, and he went, oh,
Speaker 1: thank you very much, right, And I was like, oh crap, Like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm such a ding dong, you know. I just you know,
Speaker 1: when you meet him, he's you know, he's got such
Speaker 1: a presence. And obviously I was just in awe of him. Okay,
Speaker 1: so now you so now here you are twenty four
Speaker 1: years old and you're in New York City and and
Speaker 1: here's this this job, and what's like, what's it like
Speaker 1: working with Rush? Oh my gosh. It was such a gas.
Speaker 1: I mean we I mean, well, we were all about.
Speaker 1: We were all at w ABC Radio. We had these
Speaker 1: small offices at the end of the hall, and um,
Speaker 1: we just had so much fun um interacting and we
Speaker 1: would sit in the studio while Rush was talking and
Speaker 1: obviously the Limball letter is a product of the radio show,
Speaker 1: um where we you know, and take content from what
Speaker 1: Rush is talking about and expand upon that and create
Speaker 1: new content. So it's super important for us to like
Speaker 1: listen in and hear what he was saying, and it
Speaker 1: was so inspiring. And then and on top of it,
Speaker 1: like you know, hanging out with you and Kit and
Speaker 1: Mike and UM, we just it was just such an
Speaker 1: inspiration to be there and and to experience that energy.
Speaker 1: You know, it continue to grow and and get more
Speaker 1: and more subscriptions, and we all grew with the show
Speaker 1: and kept going and so finally we reached the point.
Speaker 1: Um that brings us to one of the reasons that
Speaker 1: I asked you here to do, Russ this announcement. What
Speaker 1: what you were on the phone? I think Diana called
Speaker 1: me and told me at the time, you know, I've
Speaker 1: never known anybody to have stage four lung cancer, and um,
Speaker 1: I've known people that have survived cancer. So at the time,
Speaker 1: I think I thought, if anybody can do it, I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know, we've been there through a lot of adversity
Speaker 1: that rushes fast, you know, and I thought, well, this
Speaker 1: is just one hurdle that we're all gonna like pull
Speaker 1: together and do what we do best, and you know
Speaker 1: he's going to pull through and he'll get to the
Speaker 1: other side. I was with you. I mean, I was
Speaker 1: sad that he had to go through all this, but
Speaker 1: I absolutely thought he was going to beat it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And were you were you listening at the moment that
Speaker 1: Catherine made the announcement or were you did you find
Speaker 1: out about the I did. I mean, obviously I heard
Speaker 1: Catherine and make the announcement. I was told beforehand. Um,
Speaker 1: it was awful. I mean, we it was a Wednesday.
Speaker 1: We were going on pressed with the Limball letter on
Speaker 1: a on the Thursday that following day, so we were
Speaker 1: like crazy busy on deadline. Um, the Limball letter is
Speaker 1: written in first person, and it's just you know, it's
Speaker 1: just it was just so like surreal because we were like,
Speaker 1: you know, we have we always have Rush on the cover.
Speaker 1: And I think it was Monday, Diana and I had
Speaker 1: a conversation and we were like, you know, it's weird.
Speaker 1: We just had a feeling like things were not good.
Speaker 1: What do we do like and and so we had
Speaker 1: we had talked about how we should probably in the
Speaker 1: in the case that something should happen to Rush have
Speaker 1: something as a backup cover, because we can't have Rush
Speaker 1: on the cover if he's if he's not here anymore
Speaker 1: in the in the same capacity as we have in
Speaker 1: the past. So we came up with an alternate cover,
Speaker 1: and um that was really that was really difficult because
Speaker 1: it was the first cover in thirty years that I've
Speaker 1: designed that he um was not on the cover, and
Speaker 1: I just I couldn't imagine doing Milamo Letter without him
Speaker 1: on the cover. You know. It just it's just such
Speaker 1: a staple of of what we do and how we
Speaker 1: we visualize the Limball letter and the whole Limba Letter
Speaker 1: is written obviously in his you know words, and as
Speaker 1: I and you know, we had to kind of rethink
Speaker 1: that and it's just, you know, after thirty years, it's
Speaker 1: just unimaginable to think about how we could do that.
Speaker 1: And I have the I have so many amazing memories
Speaker 1: about him and and just hang out with him and like,
Speaker 1: and I just didn't I just didn't see it coming.
Speaker 1: I really didn't when Katherine, you know, even when Katherine
Speaker 1: was talking about it on air, I just was just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't I can't. And it was
Speaker 1: you know, we had this issue to get out, and
Speaker 1: we were working full blasts and the only thing I
Speaker 1: kept thinking about is that Rush would want me to finish,
Speaker 1: and we have to keep going and we have to
Speaker 1: keep doing what we're doing, and you know, that's what
Speaker 1: we do. And so we pulled the you know, pulled
Speaker 1: the cover and put the alternate on and and we
Speaker 1: moved and you know, we've been moving forward and you know,
Speaker 1: trying to Well, let me tell you something about that
Speaker 1: cover I have. That cover was perfect. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: God is with me. That cover was the cover we
Speaker 1: did before he died. That was the cover before. The
Speaker 1: cover that we did when he died was the one
Speaker 1: of just the microphone, right, Okay, Well, the cover that
Speaker 1: was out the limbo letter that was out when he died.
Speaker 1: It was almost like the time. It was perfect. I know,
Speaker 1: it really was, and it was almost surreal because when
Speaker 1: we did it, it was interesting. We had we when
Speaker 1: I presented covers to Russia, I often did like a
Speaker 1: couple of different covers for him to choose from, and
Speaker 1: we had a couple of different ideas for that cover,
Speaker 1: and honestly, we were surprised he chose that one and
Speaker 1: we were like okay. And you know what, Rush is
Speaker 1: never wrong ever ever, Like you know, sometimes Diane and
Speaker 1: I are like, oh, maybe we'll do this, and we
Speaker 1: show him something and he goes with something else and
Speaker 1: it's always perfect. It's always somehow per sees the future.
Speaker 1: I don't know how he does it. And so that cover, yeah,
Speaker 1: he chose that one, and we were like, oh, okay, great,
Speaker 1: and you know, we moved forward. And then later on
Speaker 1: when we looked at them, I mean, Katherine held it
Speaker 1: up at Seapack and it was just like, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: with God. It's like, it's amazing. And I was in
Speaker 1: the room when Catherine held that up up and that
Speaker 1: was just I'll tell you, that's a moment I won't forget. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and those people that could see it, you know, they
Speaker 1: had they had monitors people that could see it, and
Speaker 1: you could hear the reaction through the room. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was really impactful. And yes, and Rush shows that he
Speaker 1: Rush chose every cover. He was very involved in the
Speaker 1: covers and yeah, and I missed that so much. But
Speaker 1: let me hear one of those in using stories about Rush. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I know which one you're talking about. So when
Speaker 1: we were in New York, and I know you you
Speaker 1: were probably there for this, and you might never remember this,
Speaker 1: but we used to go out all the time, right
Speaker 1: and go to like, um fancy restaurants like Rus Crisp
Speaker 1: and twenty one Club, and we always had a private
Speaker 1: room in the back, and um we entertained clients when
Speaker 1: they came in, like advertisers, important advertisers. And once a time,
Speaker 1: I remember I was I think I had just I started.
Speaker 1: I think Rush was curious about like what I was
Speaker 1: like or who I was, you know. So I was
Speaker 1: sitting next to him at dinner and we had a
Speaker 1: great time there was you know, we were always having
Speaker 1: you know, so much fun, giggles, lots of giggles with
Speaker 1: all of us. But at the end of the dinner,
Speaker 1: he turned to me and he said, you know, his niece, Um,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna smoke cigars. Do you mind moving?
Speaker 1: And he kind of like gave me this like sheep's
Speaker 1: grin like and I was like looked at him and
Speaker 1: I didn't want to move. I was having way too
Speaker 1: much fun. I listened to him. I go, well, Rush,
Speaker 1: you're not going to offer me a cigar, like I
Speaker 1: like smoking cigars. And he started to laugh and he
Speaker 1: was like, sure you could have a scar. I didn't
Speaker 1: know you smoked cigars. And he had a human door,
Speaker 1: and um that he always you know, we at those
Speaker 1: types of things, there was always a humid door. We
Speaker 1: were always smoking cigars. You know, it was a different time.
Speaker 1: It was a long time ago, you know. And he
Speaker 1: opened up the human door, and of course you know
Speaker 1: now the challenge. He goes, well, which one do you want? Now? Right,
Speaker 1: I know nothing about cigars. I was totally bluffing, right,
Speaker 1: I mean like and I turned to him and I go, well,
Speaker 1: which one is the most expensive one? He's laugh because
Speaker 1: that was the only thing I knew that there were
Speaker 1: probably an expensive cigars in there, and they were probably
Speaker 1: really expensive cigars. And if I was gonna do this,
Speaker 1: like I gotta have the best, right so I um
Speaker 1: so he says, well, this one's the most expensive one
Speaker 1: or something like that, and I go, well, then I'll
Speaker 1: have that one. And I love that story because we
Speaker 1: just we were giggling and it was just sort of him.
Speaker 1: That was sort of him, like he liked to kind
Speaker 1: of like test you kind of a little bit to
Speaker 1: see and it was it was fun. We just were
Speaker 1: That's how we interacted, and we had such a good time.
Speaker 1: And remember just enjoying that cigar. And I think I
Speaker 1: held onto the cigar for I didn't smoke the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I couldn't smoke the whole thing, but like, um, you know,
Speaker 1: holding onto it for a really long time because it
Speaker 1: was just such a great memory of us all hanging
Speaker 1: out and and having such a good time. I read
Speaker 1: a post that you put a tribute on your Facebook
Speaker 1: page to Rush, and I want you to read it.
Speaker 1: What do you feel comfortable reading from it? You don't
Speaker 1: have to read it all, you know, if you want
Speaker 1: to skip a were a few things, that's fine too,
Speaker 1: But give us the gist of that Facebook post if
Speaker 1: you don't mind. So you know, it was really important
Speaker 1: to me when he died, and it took me a
Speaker 1: really well long time to sort of like think about
Speaker 1: how I wanted to honor him. And I have a
Speaker 1: lot of people who were asking me about my relationship
Speaker 1: with him, how I was doing. And you know what, people,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you encountered this, like what's he really like?
Speaker 1: And I wrote this post it was important to me
Speaker 1: to put down in words like what I was feeling
Speaker 1: about Rush, and I told in the beginning of the post.
Speaker 1: I told a story that I just told about the
Speaker 1: cigar because I wanted to give context, like to how
Speaker 1: he and I kind of interacted. But I do want
Speaker 1: to kind of read some of it if you don't
Speaker 1: mind it, because I want you to share this, all right,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna start sort of in the middle. So
Speaker 1: his friendship was unconditional that he was first foremost my boss.
Speaker 1: Today it's unheard of to work for thirty years for
Speaker 1: one person, but I'm not alone in my tenure. His
Speaker 1: commitment to family values meant unwavering support for his staff's
Speaker 1: family that instituted unprecedented loyalty. When I proposed something unheard
Speaker 1: of in telecommuting, he did not blink an eye and said,
Speaker 1: do it, show me how it can be done. This
Speaker 1: was during a time the internet was in its infancy.
Speaker 1: He was a visionary and self professed techie. This new
Speaker 1: idea of working from home intrigued him, and he trusted
Speaker 1: me to show him the way. He also supported my
Speaker 1: desire to move to Rhode Island, where my fiance lived
Speaker 1: and keep my job. I packed up my equipment, drove
Speaker 1: to Rhode Island, fired up my computer and modem, and
Speaker 1: launched a will. I sent him a test email, and
Speaker 1: in return I received an enthusiastic congratulations, and we never
Speaker 1: looked back. Over the next six years, we exchanged thousands
Speaker 1: of emails. Our mutual respect meant he had trusted me
Speaker 1: to work from home with very little oversight, and eye
Speaker 1: in turn worked tirelessly to support him to ensure work
Speaker 1: move forward, even when he had the misfortune of personal
Speaker 1: troubles that impacted his ability to work and took him
Speaker 1: away from the office for months at a time. He
Speaker 1: had no allusions that his great success was done on
Speaker 1: his own. Every person who worked for him received recognition
Speaker 1: for their valuable contributions. He did not often share his
Speaker 1: appreciation in writing or verbally. It made him uncomfortable. Instead,
Speaker 1: he sent numerous surprise packages over the years, at great
Speaker 1: personal expense without warning. His generosity knew no limits. He
Speaker 1: also worked tirelessly for many charities and gave millions of
Speaker 1: millions of dollars to support them. He did not boast
Speaker 1: about his charity work because it was not something you
Speaker 1: did for recognition. It was just some thing you did
Speaker 1: because it was the right thing to do. It is
Speaker 1: purposeful that I do not mention him by name, because
Speaker 1: his name is often wrongfully mischaracterized, creating an unfair bias
Speaker 1: in many people. It's important to me to share the
Speaker 1: person I knew without these overshared shadowing misnomers, to share
Speaker 1: that we did not always agree, nor did he expect
Speaker 1: me to. That He always applauded individual thinking and welcome
Speaker 1: discourse that differed from his own. There's no denying he
Speaker 1: said and did things that he admittedly regretted, but haven't
Speaker 1: we all. The difference is he was brave enough to
Speaker 1: do it under the public eye, knowing the unfriendly media
Speaker 1: stood at the ready to pounce, to lie and twist
Speaker 1: contexts to suit their agenda. Many people, including my own family,
Speaker 1: have tried to discredit him, who never took the time
Speaker 1: to really listen to him. He was not impervious to
Speaker 1: this injustice aimed at him. He described himself as quote unquote,
Speaker 1: a lovable fuzz ball, and there is no true words.
Speaker 1: It was his unwavering passion for his convictions that fueled
Speaker 1: his ability to continue his mission that made him great.
Speaker 1: This mission firmly rooted in his belief in God, individual freedom,
Speaker 1: and love for his country, his bravery to continue to
Speaker 1: always speak his truth. It is for this reason he
Speaker 1: will be remembered as one of the most important men
Speaker 1: of our time. This man, this legend, Rush Limbaugh gave
Speaker 1: me an opportunity when I was twenty four years old
Speaker 1: that turned into a great grand adventure, so that the
Speaker 1: precipice of fifty four will be one of the crowning
Speaker 1: achievements and honors of my life. Many tributes have been
Speaker 1: made about Rush since his passing from people who are
Speaker 1: more well known than myself, but it was important for
Speaker 1: my own healing process to express my experience. I know
Speaker 1: my role will not be mentioned in the big picture
Speaker 1: of the Rush Limbaugh legacy. I am good with this
Speaker 1: because I know he thought my contributions were significant, that
Speaker 1: he valued me, and then I made him proud. My
Speaker 1: wren regret will be that I did not have the
Speaker 1: chance to really thank him, share with him how much
Speaker 1: he meant to me, and tell him how much I
Speaker 1: loved him, and say goodbye to my dear friend. I
Speaker 1: take comfort knowing roses with God and that we will
Speaker 1: meet again and share a good laugh over an adult beverage.
Speaker 1: But for now I will move forward the way he
Speaker 1: would want me to and continue to make him proud. So,
Speaker 1: in closing, using Russia to signature, sign off an appreciation
Speaker 1: that you have done me the honor of reading this far.
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. It means a lot. It means
Speaker 1: a lot. As we mirror the final episodes of Rush
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Speaker 1: to offer you sincere thanks for listening to the podcast,
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