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Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, welcome to another episode of the Black duns
Speaker 2: And Podcast, where all the intersections of identity on celebrates ed.
Speaker 2: I am one of your hosts, Doctor John Paul. Uh,
Speaker 2: you all know, I'm John Chaw. Y'all come here every
Speaker 2: goddamn week, and I am happy to have my fat
Speaker 2: ass back in my office chair in the state of California.
Speaker 2: I was in New York City for one week, and
Speaker 2: I don't know how y'all live like that. I don't,
Speaker 2: I really, I really don't. My Lord, my God, the
Speaker 2: concrete jungle, red cream to made us. I just I
Speaker 2: don't know how y'all live like that. The sirens, the honking,
Speaker 2: the rats, and y'all.
Speaker 1: Just be moving through it. Y'all just be pushing through.
Speaker 2: And you know, shout out to my dolls who lived there,
Speaker 2: your friends of the show, my my new new so
Speaker 2: known as Darrell. You know, there's a couple of other
Speaker 2: folks that live out there that I love, my friend Brandon,
Speaker 2: but that that ain't for me. That that'll never be
Speaker 2: my journey. It's gonna take a lot of money to
Speaker 2: get me to move to New York. But I just
Speaker 2: wanted to say that. I just I got home yesterday
Speaker 2: after some after fighting to get home.
Speaker 1: I fought for my life to get home, y'all.
Speaker 2: Missed my plane on missed my plane, had to spend
Speaker 2: the night in Minneapolis with Prince, and then it had
Speaker 2: to turn around and fly out, and then almost missed
Speaker 2: my flight again. Delta, Delta was on something this week.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on with these planes, but
Speaker 2: Delta is definitely she's She's moving into the lane of
Speaker 2: not being as dependable as as she once was. And
Speaker 2: so yeah, mother, mother, Mother made it home by the
Speaker 2: seat of her pants. But anyway, how are you, Jojo?
Speaker 2: How you dealing it?
Speaker 3: I just want to say the you know, the rats
Speaker 3: in New York City are a different breed like we like.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they put in them sewers, but
Speaker 3: them rats out here looking like shutter.
Speaker 1: Yess who oh not sure.
Speaker 3: Matt Master's splinter I think is the one. Yes comics, y'all,
Speaker 3: fam it's your aka Joe, the other girl in this
Speaker 3: co hosting duo, and I am wondering what are the
Speaker 3: twenty four hours has in a day, yes, And are
Speaker 3: they the same hours that we all have? That's wondering
Speaker 3: because I do not think I have the same allotment sister, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't know what she does or what magic crystal
Speaker 3: she has for the multiverse, but I know how the
Speaker 3: same pier she has. And it's rough, girl. I've been through, yeah, through,
Speaker 3: I just I can't believe it anymore.
Speaker 1: I believe it, you know.
Speaker 2: So I think the twenty four hours she has is
Speaker 2: called assistants. She has money and I You have money,
Speaker 2: and you have people you can like offload stuff too.
Speaker 2: It makes it a lot easier for you to be
Speaker 2: able to say, Okay, I'm gonna get this thing done.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna focus on X, Y and Z.
Speaker 1: You can.
Speaker 2: You can really afford to just be a creative because
Speaker 2: you're not having to worry about your website, You're not
Speaker 2: having to worry about responding to emails. You don't really
Speaker 2: have to do any of that. You have people doing
Speaker 2: it for you. Right. So that's that's the reason why
Speaker 2: our twenty four hours don't look like her twenty four
Speaker 2: hours because.
Speaker 3: I feel like forty eight but they but they really
Speaker 3: are only sixteen. Like what happens too. Okay, Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: tell y'all, this episode is going to be all about
Speaker 3: our favorite thing that we love to hate on and
Speaker 3: hate to love. Drag Race is the finale is this week?
Speaker 3: So and are still here? Segment I'm gonna ask you, John,
Speaker 3: why is drag so special to you? Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, you know.
Speaker 3: I never talk about our first time scene drag before,
Speaker 3: but we never really got into what makes drag so
Speaker 3: important and special to us first?
Speaker 2: And then I'll share Yes, come a girl, why yo
Speaker 2: face look like Chuck?
Speaker 3: Get ready two o'clock?
Speaker 1: Yes, get ready to clock? It was get ready to clock?
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, so I will you know as as
Speaker 2: you've heard me say and I will continue to say,
Speaker 2: all roads lead to drag Race. And I am happy
Speaker 2: we're doing this episode because we've won it. We've we've
Speaker 2: dabbled in drag Race, but we've never really devoted a
Speaker 2: whole episode to drag and so I think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be really exciting to be able to kind of just
Speaker 2: get into that for this episode. So I hope y'all
Speaker 2: buggling your seatbelt, y'all, get y'all get ready for some
Speaker 2: drag Race fun. What I will say for me all
Speaker 2: the things I love about Drag, I specifically love old Drag.
Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is there is a
Speaker 2: vast difference between Drag Race seasons one through four versus
Speaker 2: the current stuff that we're seeing on the show now.
Speaker 2: And it's not to say that that the new Drag
Speaker 2: is not valuable or important, right. I want to make
Speaker 2: that very clear because I think oftentimes when I talk
Speaker 2: about this in public or in spaces with mixed company,
Speaker 2: people think I'm trying to shade the new girls. That's
Speaker 2: not what I'm trying to do. What I am saying
Speaker 2: is is that I feel like drag has evolved, and yeay,
Speaker 2: it has. I'm glad it has. But what I think
Speaker 2: when I think about Drag, I think that there's a
Speaker 2: specific energy the girls had in the earlier years of
Speaker 2: drag versus the newer years of drag. Right, the older
Speaker 2: years of drag, folks were very much devoted to the creativity,
Speaker 2: and they were very much in this notion of I
Speaker 2: want the world to know that I am a creative Right,
Speaker 2: Whereas it feels like a lot of the dolls jump
Speaker 2: into drag now because it's the thing to do. Right,
Speaker 2: we have Drag Race we have all these iterations of
Speaker 2: drag race, and so I'm wanting to make sure that
Speaker 2: I make it very clear I'm not trying to shit
Speaker 2: on the new girls.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is old.
Speaker 2: Drag for me is where the queens could make an
Speaker 2: entire look out of two dollars and a stick of
Speaker 2: gum and they made it work like they've worked that
Speaker 2: two dollars that they had in their pocket, and they
Speaker 2: gave performance. They would come to the stage, they would
Speaker 2: performed the house down, boots, wig in hand, make makeup
Speaker 2: not always right, you could always, but they but they
Speaker 2: kind of paint it for the people in the back.
Speaker 2: And then they would just turn around and they would
Speaker 2: just give you such a good show. You leave there
Speaker 2: feeling so full. And I just don't know.
Speaker 1: And maybe it's because I haven't mental drag show in
Speaker 1: a while, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: If the dolls give that kind of drag now, it's
Speaker 2: very there's this very subset of drag girls who do.
Speaker 2: And so I'm a believer of like when drag is
Speaker 2: done right, that's what makes me go, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is so special, right, I think about like laterrece
Speaker 2: Rau's Natural Woman performance, dieter Riz singing this.
Speaker 1: Will be when she hit or even thinking about what what?
Speaker 1: What's the one? Who? Uh, I'm not joking, bitch, Coco
Speaker 1: mont Trees.
Speaker 2: When she put her hand up to her to her
Speaker 2: face and she she said, all the words in that
Speaker 2: poll up duel song. That's that's that's the drag I
Speaker 2: come here for. That's what I want. So yes, that
Speaker 2: that's some good drag to me.
Speaker 1: What about you?
Speaker 3: Says you know, I think you can make a good
Speaker 3: point about the old dragon because back then, like like
Speaker 3: they didn't paint, like, they didn't paint. I think now
Speaker 3: when the girl's painting, they paint to like be pat
Speaker 3: to like they paint to pass right right and like
Speaker 3: bat then right like like the paint that they're giving
Speaker 3: all drags that the paint you would say, like divine
Speaker 3: do in like you know in like in like in
Speaker 3: like John Watterson movies, like I mean, yeah, so much
Speaker 3: that she was obviously made to be more like Carrier sure,
Speaker 3: but like but butly like like you saw the elements
Speaker 3: what drag was right like like it was high, it
Speaker 3: was high eigh brac you had you had the extra
Speaker 3: highlight on your face. You made sure that you you know,
Speaker 3: the like the there was so much focus on like
Speaker 3: being blended the way, but it is now right now
Speaker 3: people want to have like like like the beat mug
Speaker 3: and the mug is right and I love that, but
Speaker 3: also like girl, like it's becoming too pretty into polished.
Speaker 3: And I love your response so much because I always
Speaker 3: sad about first man, I saw Dragon and obviously, as
Speaker 3: people know, I'd showed this before, but Georgia Alana was
Speaker 3: the first person that I saw and the first time
Speaker 3: I went to a to an eighteen plus club four
Speaker 3: queer nights, and it was amazing and to me, like
Speaker 3: as a baby gate, it was so magical, magicular sea
Speaker 3: performance like this because and for it to be so queer, right,
Speaker 3: I remember she's saying oops did again by Britney Spears,
Speaker 3: and I think it was the first time they got
Speaker 3: to see that like it was okay to be this,
Speaker 3: It was okay to be fam it was okay to
Speaker 3: be queer, it was okay to perform like this, not
Speaker 3: even just okay, but it was like revered and not
Speaker 3: revered the way I stay right because today like everyone
Speaker 3: knows drag race right, but like right, but like back
Speaker 3: then it was it was like revered because it was
Speaker 3: kintercultural and I lived and as I appreciate so much
Speaker 3: that we've moved the needle on acceptance. Right, there's sometimes
Speaker 3: a probab of me is like this was hours and
Speaker 3: now it's like no longer just hours, and that makes
Speaker 3: the haut for me, right, you know. And then like
Speaker 3: you know, I've been about like what's what's so special
Speaker 3: to me? I took that and at my community college,
Speaker 3: I planned our first ever draft show on campus and
Speaker 3: it's sixty plus year of a campus and it was
Speaker 3: a smash success for three years and it ran and
Speaker 3: I remember, I remember we had we had did one
Speaker 3: like local queen come perform like a professional. And she
Speaker 3: actually told me that she went to she went to
Speaker 3: that she went to the same school and she said
Speaker 3: she was like I was here a decade ago and
Speaker 3: I tried my hardest to do a draft ship with
Speaker 3: the administration not let me do it, and so like amazing,
Speaker 3: like like aticular literation. She used to come back and
Speaker 3: perform at that school. You know, Drag was community, drag
Speaker 3: was unity. Drag was a celebration and it still is
Speaker 3: all those things to me. You know, drag and drag
Speaker 3: culture is the one of the backbones of queer communities
Speaker 3: and from you. For years, it took the most courage
Speaker 3: to perform trag and it still does some ways, but
Speaker 3: especially like rural areas, but like it's much more embraced,
Speaker 3: say than before, right, like you know, like now we're seeing,
Speaker 3: we're seeing like straight men try drag just like try
Speaker 3: it and no one understands. Rather, without drag literally would
Speaker 3: not be here. We would not be still here without
Speaker 3: without drag and the queens that came before us. Yes,
Speaker 3: to me, it's important and special because like drag gave
Speaker 3: me the blueprint to be who I who I am
Speaker 3: today in all the most powerful ways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would often I would, I would, I
Speaker 2: would say I would like to uplift the idea too,
Speaker 2: that drag has been the thing that has helped a
Speaker 2: lot of trans women figure out who they are, figure
Speaker 2: out their aesthetic, figure out the way that they you know,
Speaker 2: it really has given them the space to really understand.
Speaker 3: Often like the dragon is often the runway, like yeah
Speaker 3: intended right, Like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Trans non binary people have really figured themselves out through dragon.
Speaker 2: So I definitely think it's important for us to give
Speaker 2: snaps to that, and I would I would say, I
Speaker 2: agree to so much of what you said in regards
Speaker 2: to this notion of how it's not ours. And again
Speaker 2: I I kind of I love, I do like the
Speaker 2: idea that we've invited people in, but I also, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm still big on this notion of challenging people to
Speaker 2: think about why they like drag versus just this idea
Speaker 2: of saying I like drag because it's fun.
Speaker 1: No, like what what else?
Speaker 2: Because drag started out as a moment.
Speaker 3: For queer people to push protest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a protest, yeah, And so really thinking
Speaker 2: about that, right, like not just being a part of
Speaker 2: the culture, but really like you know, thinking about what
Speaker 2: is it about drag that has helped me really understand
Speaker 2: who I am and really understand the importance of like
Speaker 2: there is no and I have to keep saying this,
Speaker 2: there is no queer community without drag, period. So really
Speaker 2: understanding that that that part. And so I'm so glad
Speaker 2: that you asks this question. So, now that we have
Speaker 2: thrown out all the dollars that we have, we are
Speaker 2: going to take a break, and when we come back,
Speaker 2: we're going to get into this week's category more in
Speaker 2: to say, all right, y'all and we are black and
Speaker 2: to kick off our main segment, our category is this week,
Speaker 2: let's set some grounding for where the show is at now.
Speaker 2: Now you've been keeping up with this season the drag race, right, okay?
Speaker 2: And I hope that we don't give no spoilers away,
Speaker 2: but will what I will do for folks is I
Speaker 2: will put a marker in here for folks when I
Speaker 2: when I upload the show and let folks know that
Speaker 2: we are going to be talking drag race.
Speaker 1: So if you haven't been.
Speaker 2: Keeping up and you don't want to get it spoiled,
Speaker 2: you just fast forward, y'all.
Speaker 3: If you if you haven't watched this this the best
Speaker 3: some of the supposte comes out will be finale week,
Speaker 3: which means you wave past the lip single Lolla perusa.
Speaker 3: If you haven't watched by then you know the top
Speaker 3: fourst girl that's on you, that's on them.
Speaker 1: Okay, points were made. I was still putting the point.
Speaker 2: I will still put the we're not getting mailed for
Speaker 2: talking about Jesus, why you spoiled the show for us?
Speaker 2: So I did want to ask you, what do you
Speaker 2: think of the top four.
Speaker 1: Whose team are you on? I have my.
Speaker 2: Thoughts, but I would love to know yours, and then
Speaker 2: we'll go ahead and scurry on out.
Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, sorry, Love, my nails look so cunty, bitch.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, I'm gud. Then you ate this up?
Speaker 3: She is have done when last night?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's why they look I got yeah, my I
Speaker 2: gotta go get mine done.
Speaker 1: Probably in about a week. They got about another week a.
Speaker 3: Week, it's like and then like by by by by
Speaker 3: by week three this and they started keep becoming at clipingers
Speaker 3: like girl you.
Speaker 1: Got go ouch.
Speaker 3: Okay, So talk four, I will say is mostly people
Speaker 3: that I thought would be here. Say for Susie two,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie, I'm still a bit shocked that
Speaker 3: she's not in the top four, but like, but I
Speaker 3: also think, like I think she is so unique, Like
Speaker 3: she is unique, but she.
Speaker 1: Isn't unique kind of unique.
Speaker 3: She's got the kind of unique that like the show wants,
Speaker 3: you know, unique as well to right love?
Speaker 1: Can I answert a loving pause here?
Speaker 2: Susie could have been in the top four, yes, but
Speaker 2: she was very full of herself and kept thinking that
Speaker 2: she didn't need the notes that people were trying to
Speaker 2: give her, and the big note that Ruin Michelle kept
Speaker 2: giving her all season was what change the makeup? Turned around?
Speaker 3: Me turn it around.
Speaker 2: The big note this season was stop doing that. We're
Speaker 2: done with the twenties. Okay, the Flopper era makeup. You
Speaker 2: you did that for eight weeks. Stop give us something else.
Speaker 2: And so when Michelle tells you to change it up
Speaker 2: and you come out again with that same makeup, it's
Speaker 2: time for you to go home.
Speaker 3: So also, like when Michelle tells you anything, listen to
Speaker 3: Michelle like like she like she is the one. Like
Speaker 3: she is, she's the She's like the pre entry, the
Speaker 3: prerequisite for Rude to give, like for to give you back.
Speaker 3: If she tells you make the change, she knows what
Speaker 3: Rue wants. I know you're so right because when Michelle
Speaker 3: locked her and was like I love that, Susie. You know,
Speaker 3: feel that this is what you're going to perform. But
Speaker 3: when she would leave the form, I was like, girl, okay,
Speaker 3: say the girls. Okay, that's so fair. You're right, You're
Speaker 3: right now. Anya. I knew Anya would be here. I
Speaker 3: think she she's just so dynamic. Actually think she's a
Speaker 3: full package, and I don't I will say I don't
Speaker 3: think she's the most polished, but I think she is
Speaker 3: a whole package because she doesn't try to be perfect, right,
Speaker 3: like Rue actually hates that people don't think of the
Speaker 3: Rue actually hates like perfection, which is why I Sam
Speaker 3: Starr won't win because she's fantastic, She's stunning, she's like nudictively,
Speaker 3: she's an amazing queens. But she's so perfect and I think, like, yes,
Speaker 3: Sam stars like let down her, let down her, like
Speaker 3: her like warbick and but like but but like Anya
Speaker 3: came in like I'm gonna act up and out to
Speaker 3: fool And I think that's the most really really great
Speaker 3: you know. And I think and she I don't think
Speaker 3: like Sam doesn't get doesn't get stupid the way that
Speaker 3: Rue value. Yeah, LEXI, I love her so much and
Speaker 3: I think she is incredible and I think she is
Speaker 3: a like supreme case of saboteur, Like yeah, she like
Speaker 3: I think like she really could and there are times
Speaker 3: where there are times where I like she. I I
Speaker 3: know why she didn't win as many challenges because she
Speaker 3: was just like almost there right right, And I and
Speaker 3: you and and I do think I do think maybe
Speaker 3: they had her to a to a higher standard. And
Speaker 3: and and I will I will like, I will like
Speaker 3: think about that as like, especially especially with her being
Speaker 3: a trans queen. Like, but she helped to hire her
Speaker 3: than than than the other girls.
Speaker 1: You're asking some good questions, you know.
Speaker 3: And I was like, understand where her sebatory comes from,
Speaker 3: right obviously to you. And I'm like, girl, like you
Speaker 3: are dying, like you will. She like kept putting herself
Speaker 3: against Susie, and I'm like, you two are not the same.
Speaker 2: We're gonna keep it a buck. Lexi, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: is better than Susie.
Speaker 1: I mean, am I wrong? Am I wrong?
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the thing I'm gonna say this,
Speaker 2: and and and this might be a hot take. I
Speaker 2: can almost ignore the fact that a queen is not
Speaker 2: quote unquote polished if they have a good personality. Yes,
Speaker 2: And I feel like Susie did not give me this
Speaker 2: notion of look past here because all of this is
Speaker 2: so much more fun.
Speaker 1: That's what made me fall in love with Simone.
Speaker 2: Let's be real here, right, Simone kind of had the
Speaker 2: same look and aesthetic from the top to the bottom
Speaker 2: of her season.
Speaker 1: Let's let's keep it a buck right, there weren't. There
Speaker 1: was not that much versatility.
Speaker 2: However, Simone had the it factor and that was the
Speaker 2: thing that won the season for her, and so I
Speaker 2: will say the same thing if Lexi was to win.
Speaker 2: It is my opinion that I believe that Lexi does
Speaker 2: have an IT factor. She's likable, she's fun to be around,
Speaker 2: she can turn a room. She I don't know has
Speaker 2: she has. She been in the bottom.
Speaker 3: Yet I think I think she lives saying for the win,
Speaker 3: So I actually don't actually don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, either way, either way, I'm in the mind.
Speaker 3: Yet she does. I agree she has the IT factor,
Speaker 3: but her only thing is that she tends her way
Speaker 3: too much. Because she has done that, it would have
Speaker 3: been in like a skyrocker for her, and then she
Speaker 3: like really sad. And I also I hated the o'
Speaker 3: clocker is so old because I she's thirty two years old. Okay,
Speaker 3: the old, the old drag race. These girls were out
Speaker 3: here in their forties.
Speaker 1: Do not say fifties.
Speaker 3: Thirty two is too old, right? You had chubble heids
Speaker 3: out here until I had mess of Queen messively for
Speaker 3: many reasons, Okay, same but like was out here in
Speaker 3: her fifty fifties, you're not saying this, miss girls old.
Speaker 3: Now speaking of the thing of the factor, I will
Speaker 3: say jewels I love hands down. I would not be when,
Speaker 3: I would not be mad if she won. I was,
Speaker 3: I am. I was surprised to see her it so far,
Speaker 3: but now that I've seen her, I like.
Speaker 1: She To me, she is a whole Podcason.
Speaker 3: I do think she lacks like a wee, like a
Speaker 3: small bit of uniqueness, like for the like for the
Speaker 3: for the first half, I was like, she's Georgia's too,
Speaker 3: and okay, and she is like she pinks better, she
Speaker 3: she's like, she's funny, like she is funny as fuck.
Speaker 3: She's sure, she's like so shuit herself, like I think
Speaker 3: she is amazing. But I do think like like Anya
Speaker 3: just has like sothing like like Anya, like Anya's in
Speaker 3: factory is just a different in factor unless it's in
Speaker 3: factor is a different doctor Sam's in fact, they all
Speaker 3: they all have their own in factor. I think I'm
Speaker 3: the most drawn to Anya's and jewels, but jewels, I'm like,
Speaker 3: but I'm not mad she wins.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I no, no, no to your point too, And this
Speaker 2: is something that I've talked a lot about in various
Speaker 2: different spaces, both on the mic and off. Could Anya
Speaker 2: be a quote unquote heavily polished queen if she had
Speaker 2: the money? And I think that's something that we also
Speaker 2: have to talk about to right, Like, Anya has made
Speaker 2: it very clear that drag is not her nine to
Speaker 2: five that she has other that she has another job
Speaker 2: outside of doing drag, And so my question becomes, if
Speaker 2: Anya was given the capital to be able to buy
Speaker 2: in turn the the way that she wants to turn it,
Speaker 2: could she be that it girl per Cerve. And that's
Speaker 2: that's the thought that I have after last week's episode.
Speaker 2: What I will say is is, too, I also find
Speaker 2: that people tend to critique black queens way more and
Speaker 2: we talked we talked about this in our show, and
Speaker 2: we've talked about it forever in the day, black queens
Speaker 2: get critiqued harder than the other white queens, right And
Speaker 2: not to say that this is the case for Anya,
Speaker 2: I don't want to put that out there, But what
Speaker 2: I'm saying is is that it's interesting to me that
Speaker 2: you're not the first. And I'm not saying you're wrong.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that anybody is wrong by critiquing Anya.
Speaker 2: But my question becomes, if Sam Starr have the same
Speaker 2: energy as Anya? Do you get where I'm going with this, right,
Speaker 2: Like with I don't know, I don't know what point
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make, but I'm just trying to say, like,
Speaker 2: sometimes I feel like black queens get critiqued harder for
Speaker 2: they're not polished enough. When I'm going, you're just kind
Speaker 2: of mad that a lot of like like is Anya.
Speaker 1: A bad queen?
Speaker 3: No, I don't know, I hear, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 3: I think like for me, the Polish, the Polish is
Speaker 3: that like we come to expect a level of like
Speaker 3: of like blending and like like like the difference in
Speaker 3: make up between her and the other queens to me
Speaker 3: is a little bit different. Yea, and but but to
Speaker 3: your but to your point, right, it also could be
Speaker 3: like the other girls are depending on lighter slash wider
Speaker 3: faces and that's and that is more makeup is like
Speaker 3: a may skin. To really interesting point, like, I I
Speaker 3: only I only mean Polish in terms of makeup, not
Speaker 3: in terms of like but I told but I think
Speaker 3: you're abviously round like people will look at a black
Speaker 3: queen and say she's not as polished as a queen
Speaker 3: in general, and like right like they'll say, oh, she's
Speaker 3: not as like funny or exciting, and I'm like no,
Speaker 3: but they actually know that they actually are actually Anya.
Speaker 2: Like I like, I have yet to see Anya do
Speaker 2: a challenge where I have not laughed yes, entire challenge
Speaker 2: or have.
Speaker 3: Been like a trance by her like everything she does,
Speaker 3: like like like like when she said that that jazz
Speaker 3: song she did a yeah, she when she cut up
Speaker 3: as as Dorothy and the whiz a Like you can't
Speaker 3: tell me that she has that she hasn't like deserved
Speaker 3: every win.
Speaker 1: She's incredible, just talented.
Speaker 3: She just talented like she like like like like o
Speaker 3: the you know other Chrismini is different talent, talent, She
Speaker 3: has nerve, the talent, the charisma, and the neatness. She
Speaker 3: has all the above and she especially has the talent
Speaker 3: and especially has the nerve. The nerve for sure.
Speaker 1: Ye oh god, So I so I.
Speaker 3: Want to ask you because this isn't we saw like
Speaker 3: a few things that were different, and I every season,
Speaker 3: I always like what would be different? What would not
Speaker 3: be different? There's a few seasons where it's like very formulaic,
Speaker 3: and so I'm curious, as she like, what components of
Speaker 3: drag Race do you think work well? Still? What components
Speaker 3: do you what components do you think that you wish
Speaker 3: that they should do again, or.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, cut, yeah, so I love the I will
Speaker 2: say this, for me, my favorite will always be the
Speaker 2: comedy challenges. I think anytime they do a comedy challenge,
Speaker 2: whether it's the roast, whether it's them having to like
Speaker 2: sell their own product, whether it's them having to be
Speaker 2: like there were a couple of like hit or misses
Speaker 2: this season for me, but anytime they were doing something
Speaker 2: related to having to rely on the comedy and the
Speaker 2: comedic timing of each of the queens, I was literally
Speaker 2: I was in the show.
Speaker 1: I was in it.
Speaker 2: I am a big proponent of I've known they've they've
Speaker 2: dropped this and older seats, I say older seasons, but
Speaker 2: in seasons like I think it was like season ten.
Speaker 2: I noticed a shift from the notion of them having
Speaker 2: to know how to sew, and I see them going
Speaker 2: back to it, but they're still not doing it as
Speaker 2: much as they were doing it in the first few seasons.
Speaker 2: The first few seasons, it kind of felt like every
Speaker 2: challenge in some capacity had an element of you have
Speaker 2: to sew your own look for you to be able
Speaker 2: to walk the runway. Even if you had a challenge
Speaker 2: in that challenge, you didn't come to the challenge without,
Speaker 2: you know, taking a moment to go, oh, we're doing
Speaker 2: this thing tonight and I have to make something for
Speaker 2: this look and then have to turn around and do this.
Speaker 2: And again, maybe it is a production thing. I don't
Speaker 2: work on the World of Wonder. I've never worked I
Speaker 2: don't know anyone who works with World of Wonder. I
Speaker 2: don't know what production looks like from that. So maybe
Speaker 2: that's why they've probably pulled back on the sewing challenges.
Speaker 2: But I definitely have always been that girl that's been like,
Speaker 2: I need my queens to know how to sew, or
Speaker 2: at least know how to give the illusion that they
Speaker 2: know how to sew. And then also like I just
Speaker 2: think that I don't know, I just I wish that
Speaker 2: there were more. And again, I don't know where this falls.
Speaker 2: I don't know where this show's up in the show,
Speaker 2: but I just wish we had more time to get
Speaker 2: to know the queens. I feel like in the years past.
Speaker 2: Like I don't wanna say get to know, I just
Speaker 2: I will say this. When Fifi O'Hara was on the show,
Speaker 2: I knew that she was an asshole. And it wasn't
Speaker 2: that it was just what she was saying and doing.
Speaker 2: It was like we knew there were there were like
Speaker 2: the camera was intentional about building a story around her.
Speaker 2: I don't know if any of the queens are getting
Speaker 2: that anymore. Like I don't feel like there's you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like I don't really know who these
Speaker 2: queens are when the show is done, even though there
Speaker 2: they've been with us for this amount of time, right,
Speaker 2: I still don't know.
Speaker 3: We're gonna trauma so quickly. Like there's one Yeah, there
Speaker 3: was one episode. I was like episode three or four
Speaker 3: of this season and I was like, girl, we went
Speaker 3: from like kicking to like literally like three girls are
Speaker 3: having trauma dumps and I'm like, this is not this
Speaker 3: is not breaking for me, girl, Like yeah, before you
Speaker 3: just like talk about your horrible experience of life, right,
Speaker 3: I was just.
Speaker 1: Like, gooped, You're like, okay, I just might came in here,
Speaker 1: and you.
Speaker 3: Know, I think that point it also it also like
Speaker 3: doesn't pay off like for the queen or that part
Speaker 3: the show, right, Like this doesn't pay off. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying like I'm not trying to say that like the
Speaker 3: that like like like like you're like like you have
Speaker 3: to earn the trauma. That what I'm saying. But but
Speaker 3: in terms like storytelling, right, there is a payoff in storytelling,
Speaker 3: and yeah, that has not paid off in the way
Speaker 3: it has in like other seasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, you're You're one hundred and ten percent
Speaker 2: correct in that and saying that, And that's I think
Speaker 2: that's the biggest critique that I would give is that
Speaker 2: I don't know. And again, and like I said, I
Speaker 2: think it might be because there are too many moving
Speaker 2: pieces of the puzzle when we're thinking about what this
Speaker 2: show is and what the show has become, that we
Speaker 2: don't get a chance to know the queens.
Speaker 1: But I just I feel like I don't.
Speaker 2: I'll be like I said, I some of them, I
Speaker 2: don't even know their names, and then I'll know that
Speaker 2: they'll they'll be gone and someone will reference them and
Speaker 2: I have no clue who they are, Like I'm like.
Speaker 1: Who who?
Speaker 2: Like someone mentioned someone recently and they were like, how
Speaker 2: did you feel about when so and so went home?
Speaker 2: And I was like, who, Like, I don't, I don't know,
Speaker 2: Like I only know really at this point, I only
Speaker 2: really know the top four and I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: And then maybe, and like.
Speaker 2: I said, it could be that there's too many queens.
Speaker 2: It could be there's too many episodes. Maybe they're doing
Speaker 2: too much in the episodes. But I just wish that
Speaker 2: we went back to a day where I really felt
Speaker 2: like I knew the Queens when the show was done.
Speaker 1: So what about you left?
Speaker 3: Also bingmck untucked untucked in fact original, I am mad.
Speaker 3: Also like now they sell it as a separate girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah my part, you were paying enough, calm down, right.
Speaker 3: I also I miss the challenges or the Queens would
Speaker 3: be in the streets of Hollywood, like bring back them
Speaker 3: in the holloway like because that because back then that
Speaker 3: ship was dangerous for them. Yeah listen, yes, very today
Speaker 3: people would love the Queens and like, I want to
Speaker 3: see the Queen's out in the streets doing some wild ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah I think. Yeah, I love I you know, I
Speaker 3: love I love the I love the uh the uh.
Speaker 3: I agree with you, like a Queen's no how so
Speaker 3: like a queen's house. If you're girl, what are you
Speaker 3: doing here? Why is you here? Every every season I'm
Speaker 3: like you, this show has been on for thirty thousand years,
Speaker 3: has twenty and has fifty eleven seasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, across the world.
Speaker 3: You need to know how at the very least girl,
Speaker 3: so a scene like you've got to do a scene
Speaker 3: girl the top the three things that I say every season,
Speaker 3: And if you are a fan, if you listen to
Speaker 3: our show and.
Speaker 2: You are thinking about going on drag Race, doctor Higgins
Speaker 2: is telling you these three things you need to know
Speaker 2: how to do.
Speaker 1: You need to take a comedy.
Speaker 2: You need to take some type of improv comedy something
Speaker 2: or another. You've got to know how to improv. You've
Speaker 2: got to learn how to sew. And you've got to
Speaker 2: learn how to walk. A lot of these girls cannot walk.
Speaker 2: They're cute, but they can't walk in them hills.
Speaker 3: And that's.
Speaker 1: That too.
Speaker 2: So I have a question for you now that we
Speaker 2: don't questions back and forth. I guess if if you
Speaker 2: were on drag Race thinking about us, we're gonna put
Speaker 2: ourselves into the ring. Since we spent the whole pretty
Speaker 2: much all of this segment talking shit about the other girls.
Speaker 2: If you were to put yourself on drag Race, where
Speaker 2: do you think you'd place. I'm not gonna have a
Speaker 2: hold you. I am sure I'd probably go home first
Speaker 2: because I don't have too much ship slide and and and.
Speaker 1: Then you know how they have to vote now vot
Speaker 1: you have to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got that whole voting system now with the
Speaker 2: which to anybody, if there is someone who listens to
Speaker 2: this show from World World of Wonder, I want one
Speaker 2: of them little lipsticks that say doctor John Paul. Somebody
Speaker 2: is also please do yes, yes, get us some lipstick.
Speaker 2: Is that Mabeline Anastocea Beverly here? Somebody please get us
Speaker 2: a lipstick.
Speaker 1: With our name on it. We need we we need that,
Speaker 1: we need that.
Speaker 2: But yes, I would definitely go home because they vote
Speaker 2: my big ass out.
Speaker 3: Okay, I for sure think I make top six. I
Speaker 3: would not be taught for Yeah, I wouldn't unfortunate any
Speaker 3: one of those girls who doesn't who does not know
Speaker 3: how so? But and don't come from me, y'all. If
Speaker 3: I knew something, if I knew that I was on
Speaker 3: drag Race, I had learned I get class I at
Speaker 3: least know her to use the machine, which I do. Okay,
Speaker 3: so I will not come out I'm not coming not
Speaker 3: knowing nothing. But also I know how is the garment
Speaker 3: which I can sell A piece? I can sell peace girl,
Speaker 3: I can sell the cloth. Really, yes, I am full.
Speaker 3: I think I am full of charisma. You need this
Speaker 3: nerve and talent.
Speaker 2: Far you go far, would say, because you're very likable,
Speaker 2: I will say to thank you like it's not I'm
Speaker 2: not even not even waxing your car, Like you just
Speaker 2: have such a beautiful and joyful energy to be around.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure that that would exude through all of
Speaker 2: the stuff. But like I said, I don't let none
Speaker 2: of them girls slide, and they be really quick to vote.
Speaker 3: And my confessionals, people with people would efessionals, they be like, girl,
Speaker 3: this bitch is crazy and confessionals. Yeah, but I do
Speaker 3: think snatch came with me would be my downfall.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I partially think maybe maybe I can do gener Coolidge. Maybe,
Speaker 3: but like I really don't have like I do great characters,
Speaker 3: feels of like building an character, Yeah, I do not.
Speaker 3: I do not do. I'm not an impression of type
Speaker 3: of girl. That's just not for me. Sash game happens,
Speaker 3: she's gone.
Speaker 2: Not you being like soon this snatch game happens, You're like, well,
Speaker 2: let me pack this shit up because it's time to go.
Speaker 3: Came. No, No, I won't. I can't even do it.
Speaker 3: I won't survive. I won't survive.
Speaker 1: No, I think I'm gonna get that all. That's actually
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 3: Okay, So okay, So my last question for you is,
Speaker 3: so we discussed our favorite queens from this season. Yes,
Speaker 3: what are your favorite seasons and the queen and queens
Speaker 3: from those seasons or queens in general.
Speaker 2: Okay, So for for me, I'm gonna say, of course,
Speaker 2: season four, uh, person who wrote with the Ford of
Speaker 2: my book, Why wouldn't I say Literes Royale. I would
Speaker 2: also say season thirteen, uh, Simone from out the Gate
Speaker 2: as soon as she hit that stage, because you know,
Speaker 2: that was a season where they had them like they
Speaker 2: battled against each other in order for them to make
Speaker 2: it in, and so that was the seasons. Soon as
Speaker 2: I saw her before myself, she's gonna win. I would
Speaker 2: also say an honorable mention, not just because they're my friend,
Speaker 2: but because they know that I'm I'm like one of
Speaker 2: their biggest fans. Mayhem Miller always gonna always be Mayhem
Speaker 2: is gonna always be one of my favorite queens.
Speaker 1: So what about you?
Speaker 3: I think definitely a six one because especially it's my
Speaker 3: heart for her queer wakening for me in some ways.
Speaker 2: She not to cut you off, but when she looked
Speaker 2: at the camera, she says, I don't want to be here.
Speaker 3: She said, I think I don't belong here. I don't
Speaker 3: belong here. Again, build a story and she earned that payoff. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm a sadis fuck about it? I was, Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: you have Michelle coming out here, but like, baby, what's wrong?
Speaker 1: She's like, baby, baby, what's pro?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not good for this and that and that
Speaker 3: and then and listen, and I think to that moment
Speaker 3: Michelle said I had to be queens. I am putting
Speaker 3: their lives and she was and I and I lived,
Speaker 3: but she was with them lives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michelle was real mean to the dolls and the
Speaker 2: earlier me to them show.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Season six six, one of my favorite seasons
Speaker 3: ever is when people ask me what season start watching,
Speaker 3: I'm like season six and season four those the best one.
Speaker 1: Season six is with what's her name?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Whom again? Also fantastic. Probably the best comedy comedy
Speaker 3: roles I've ever seen was that season just so funny.
Speaker 3: All of them are so most of them are just
Speaker 3: so good. I really loved the season that had I
Speaker 3: think it was season eight, the one with Baba Dragon
Speaker 3: Queen for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I always think Bob was in the season nine.
Speaker 1: I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I think season eight. And then there's the time All
Speaker 3: Stars to top one of the tops ever, yes for sure,
Speaker 3: like all the season revived All Stars.
Speaker 1: And that part.
Speaker 2: Yes, But I will also say that the name that
Speaker 2: we shall not mention uh was should not have went home?
Speaker 2: So is that the was she on the first one
Speaker 2: or the second one? Which Chris sleep this Chris because
Speaker 2: we can't say her name? Chandela?
Speaker 3: That was All Stars three and yes, should not have
Speaker 3: went home?
Speaker 1: Yes, she should have won.
Speaker 3: Yeah she should. I agree, I agree, I agree, Okay, okay, y'all,
Speaker 3: So now that we uh now now while we wait
Speaker 3: for the angry emails from the Tarer Sanchez club for
Speaker 3: not getting not us giving her flowers?
Speaker 1: Tarra, what's your barbecue canceled? Y'all?
Speaker 3: Grill fu, Yes, we have think a quick break, but
Speaker 3: when we come back, we'll talk about what's on our
Speaker 3: plate more in a sect. Okay, y'all, we are back
Speaker 3: in for days. What's on your plate? I'm want to
Speaker 3: put on our best wigs and think what kind of
Speaker 3: drag queen would you be? What's your name? What would
Speaker 3: you be giving? Who's your audience? I want to know
Speaker 3: all about who the who the about this girl is.
Speaker 2: So I've given this some thought, and the name I
Speaker 2: came up with on the fly, but I have death
Speaker 2: given this some time. So my drag name would be
Speaker 2: Shanita Plate. Shanita Plate. It sounds exactly the way that
Speaker 2: you think it sounds. I would be in La Teresa's house.
Speaker 2: Even though I know that she doesn't have too many
Speaker 2: drag daughters, she only has one. I still would would
Speaker 2: ask for Teres to be my drag mother, and I
Speaker 2: would be the one I hate because I hate. So
Speaker 2: when I say old dusty queen, I don't mean that
Speaker 2: as a slur. What I mean by that is is
Speaker 2: that I'm talking about the queens who who performed. If
Speaker 2: that makes sense like it wasn't. It's not just about
Speaker 2: I want to be famous and I want to be
Speaker 2: Instagram tiktokie, And I'm talking about the old queens who
Speaker 2: like when I say dust, I'm talking about they use
Speaker 2: pounds of makeup and you could when you gave them
Speaker 2: a hug, they smelt like white diamonds.
Speaker 1: That's the kind of that is the old.
Speaker 2: I want to be a older I want I want
Speaker 2: to I want people to look at.
Speaker 1: Me and see what's what was her name? Who put?
Speaker 1: Who had the thing on her head?
Speaker 3: Or nation vivacious?
Speaker 2: But yes, I want to give vivacious. I want to give.
Speaker 2: I've been like, I've studied drag. I know drag. I
Speaker 2: understand like the lexicon of what drag is supposed to be.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not just doing it for fun. I'm doing
Speaker 2: it because it's it's my career, it's my life. Like
Speaker 2: I want, I want to be a studied queen. If
Speaker 2: that makes sense?
Speaker 1: What about you?
Speaker 3: Okay? I live so I think so folks, Summer says now.
Speaker 3: But I used to do drag when I was younger. Yes,
Speaker 3: my name was, my name was Madame Jews, but it
Speaker 3: was like jew like jw is Jewish. Okay, But I
Speaker 3: don't love it much anymore. And I think if I
Speaker 3: was a queen today, I think I'd be like I
Speaker 3: was like like today, when my my roommate says some
Speaker 3: of them to me, I was like, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: it was like it was like misheard. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: look name like miss heard. That's a cute name. Misheard
Speaker 3: that you misheard. So I'll just roll that for now.
Speaker 3: But I think my drag, my drag would be like
Speaker 3: I love a walk, I love a walk. My drag
Speaker 3: would be she. The walk would be nasty, the walk
Speaker 3: would be nasty. I think I think she she would
Speaker 3: be giving lips, sinking, okay, performance she's I'm not trying
Speaker 3: to do I'm not a not an assassin like I
Speaker 3: can do moves. But I will give you power ballance
Speaker 3: and bow the house down. Okay. I will give you
Speaker 3: Fie White with a mic in her hand and a wig.
Speaker 3: Don't you don't you walk away from me?
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: I will give you Htney Houston, I will, but I
Speaker 3: will also I will also give you Beyonce like I
Speaker 3: can do it all, but I will lean in to
Speaker 3: power ballads. She would be a girl. I would have
Speaker 3: every wig, would be at least forty inches like I
Speaker 3: would never I would and a lot of she's gonna
Speaker 3: have forty inches but downs every single toy.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's a wig under a wig.
Speaker 3: If and and the fits. M hm girl, yes, captains, yeah,
Speaker 3: you have me. They don't have me in the type
Speaker 3: body says a girl don't have many corsets.
Speaker 1: Captains, caf hans.
Speaker 3: She is giving, she's even rich aunto you. Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: going to bed, that's what. Okay, I'm getting.
Speaker 1: You will have me?
Speaker 3: I am, I am, I'm looking. I am post on
Speaker 3: in Miami right now.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm about to lay down on these beach chairs.
Speaker 2: I know that's right, because you know what, honestly, that's
Speaker 2: a good question. What would be like your you know,
Speaker 2: like most queens kind of have something about them that
Speaker 2: makes them like known, Like what like what would be
Speaker 2: your your known thing? I'm thinking of mine as I'm
Speaker 2: asking this question. I don't know what would be I.
Speaker 3: Think I think I think it'd be like that dischwalks
Speaker 3: in fasty like okay, so it's just your wal like
Speaker 3: Namoy Campbell with a little hair to it, like I
Speaker 3: think it'd be like this bitch walks nasty. And I
Speaker 3: think for myself, I can do. I mean, can you
Speaker 3: like already like a really pretty spin?
Speaker 2: So I like, uh a little twirl and my forty yes, yes,
Speaker 2: yes vision. I think I would also be known for
Speaker 2: my hair, my different the hairdoos and things I'd probably
Speaker 2: link up with Delta work, and I would be like
Speaker 2: shout out to shout out to our girl Delta, because Delta.
Speaker 1: One thing.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of ship that people can
Speaker 2: say about Delta, but the one thing that nobody can
Speaker 2: ever take from that woman is that bitch can do
Speaker 2: a wig.
Speaker 1: Okay, she can.
Speaker 2: She can't design and do a wig like nobody else.
Speaker 2: And I w I g oh, yes, yes, like I
Speaker 2: want to give all of my I literally want to
Speaker 2: give all of the credit to her work, because again,
Speaker 2: rou would not be where Rou is if it wasn't
Speaker 2: for her. I'm just saying out loud if we really
Speaker 2: want to talk about it. But anyway, sale of that
Speaker 2: to say that, I genuinely think my hair would be
Speaker 2: the thing that would probably be what people like, people
Speaker 2: would come to the drag shows to wait to see
Speaker 2: what kind of look I was gonna give with my hair.
Speaker 1: That probably it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, Well with that being said, you could come
Speaker 2: see Shanida Plate and Miss Herd live loud and in
Speaker 2: color on Fridays down to the VIP.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: But with that being said, we're gonna take one more
Speaker 2: break and when we get back, we're going to get
Speaker 2: into y'all's favorite segment. Yes, ma'am, no man, Pam warn
Speaker 2: a bit. All right, y'all, So this week we are
Speaker 2: well one. So I'll be very transparent and saying we
Speaker 2: are pushing it because it has been a very long
Speaker 2: week for both me and Jojo, and on top of that,
Speaker 2: we have both had very long days. And so I
Speaker 2: don't want y'alleeling like we're trying to short you. If
Speaker 2: you recognize that that this episode is one of our
Speaker 2: shorter ones, it's just because.
Speaker 3: I will pay gave you non sacrificing quality, right. We
Speaker 3: just we just that's all.
Speaker 1: We just we we got to the meat of the show.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And what we'll have more key keys and banters is
Speaker 2: just I've been traveling a lot this week. Joho has
Speaker 2: had a lot on their play and so this week
Speaker 2: we said we're just gonna get in, give y'all a
Speaker 2: really good show, and then we're gonna get back to
Speaker 2: our lives because we are both very, very very tired.
Speaker 2: But with that being said, we are still going to
Speaker 2: give the flowers to those who deserve them. And so
Speaker 2: this week I want to give a big, huge shout
Speaker 2: out to my doll, Dominique Morgan and also to my
Speaker 2: girl T. S. Madison for the Starter House. I think
Speaker 2: it is absolutely fantastic what they are doing, what they've
Speaker 2: been doing, the fact that they are continuing to thrive
Speaker 2: and create things even when people don't support them and
Speaker 2: don't give them the love and and and and and
Speaker 2: the word I'm looking for here the upliftment, I guess
Speaker 2: if that's the right word right. They've been very vocal
Speaker 2: about how much trouble they've had to start this house,
Speaker 2: and I just think it's really cool to see that
Speaker 2: it actually happened and it's come to life. So shout
Speaker 2: out to them, Shout out to the work they're doing,
Speaker 2: shout out to the work they continue to do. I
Speaker 2: absolutely love and adore both of them and will continue
Speaker 2: to speak their names in all of the rooms that
Speaker 2: they're not in.
Speaker 3: Let's make sure that we that we link and.
Speaker 2: Will and will we'll definitely make sure that we have
Speaker 2: linked to the Starter House, and also for those who
Speaker 2: are listening and may have an extra dollar or two,
Speaker 2: like right, so we're talking about being at a club
Speaker 2: right now with the with the dolls and and you know,
Speaker 2: being at a drag show. Do what you do at
Speaker 2: a drag show, take some of those dollars out of
Speaker 2: your bag and put them in the hands of black
Speaker 2: trans women who.
Speaker 1: Are actually out here making a difference.
Speaker 2: I will say this before I go on to my
Speaker 2: Noma and Pam. I've been very vocal about this. There
Speaker 2: are a lot and I think I take the number
Speaker 2: from Franchesca Ramsey, but Jessica Ramsey says, you know, just
Speaker 2: because people have a lot of numbers on their socials
Speaker 2: and you know our quote unquote everywhere, doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: they're doing good work. And I want to make that
Speaker 2: very clear that there are a lot of people out
Speaker 2: here who are very very out there.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to down no shade.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying they're they're asking for money or they're
Speaker 2: you're doing these different things and are not really doing
Speaker 2: anything with the money that they've been given. T. S.
Speaker 2: Madison and Dominique Morgan, I know personally are using that
Speaker 2: money to put that money in other people's pockets to
Speaker 2: make sure that they can live the life that they deserve.
Speaker 2: And so I I cannot say enough. Please, if you
Speaker 2: have it, make sure that you're giving to the Starter
Speaker 2: House to make sure that those girls have what they
Speaker 2: need in order to live the life that they deserve.
Speaker 2: Now onto the funny. So yesterday I tried to kill
Speaker 2: myself and it's not funny. My no, man, Pam is tracking. Yes,
Speaker 2: it is a trigger warning and you can actually probably
Speaker 2: bleep that, Chris, so that way we don't get in
Speaker 2: trouble for me saying that I uh that I k
Speaker 2: I l led ed myself, but are unalive to myself.
Speaker 2: I tried to unlive myself yesterday all jokes decided. It
Speaker 2: is not funny, but I can laugh at it now.
Speaker 2: So my nomn Pam is twofold. I, as you all know,
Speaker 2: had a book tour. So by the time you hear this,
Speaker 2: it'll be last week. So last week I had a
Speaker 2: book tour. I had a bookstop in New York and
Speaker 2: in the midst of trying to get home, our flight
Speaker 2: got canceled. I think I may have said, did I
Speaker 2: say this at the top of the show, or did
Speaker 2: I mention this at all?
Speaker 3: No, okay to us?
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so at the top of the show, I
Speaker 2: basically had mentioned to every to folks who are on
Speaker 2: the production side of the show. I missed my flight
Speaker 2: because Delta basically had We were on a runway for
Speaker 2: the tarmac for an hour and a half because they
Speaker 2: had basically gotten the lanes down to like one lane
Speaker 2: and there was a lot of wind and so we
Speaker 2: can only fly out of one area of LaGuardia. So
Speaker 2: that meant that we missed our leg coming back to
Speaker 2: Orange County. Now, so we're stuck in minute, We're stuck
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. We get a hotel, go through the you know,
Speaker 2: go through the mojo of all of that. The next morning,
Speaker 2: me and my husband are trying to like wrap up
Speaker 2: our stuff and get out of the hotel to get
Speaker 2: to the shuttle so that way we can get to
Speaker 2: the airport. Now, I've been very transparent about this, so
Speaker 2: that's why I don't care about sharing it on the MIC.
Speaker 2: I take diabetes medicine, and the diabetes medicine bottle is white, Okay.
Speaker 2: I also travel with my roeboxin because my roeboxin helps
Speaker 2: my back in case my side or my sciatica kicks
Speaker 2: up because of how much I'm sitting and how much
Speaker 2: I'm moving and how much I'm carrying and all that. Right,
Speaker 2: if you have sciatica, you already know anything can set
Speaker 2: off your sciatica.
Speaker 1: One wrong move, sleeping wrong. Do you have siata?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No? Okay, God bless you, because if you don't, If
Speaker 2: you don't have sciatica, you will never know what it's
Speaker 2: like to live in a world where you can sneeze
Speaker 2: or be startled and have your whole back go out.
Speaker 2: That is literally the life that I leave. So both
Speaker 2: of those bottles look exactly the same. They were in
Speaker 2: the same carry all medicine thing that I had. So
Speaker 2: as I'm rushing to take my medicine to like put
Speaker 2: it in my bag, I opened the bottle and I
Speaker 2: took three roboxins and I.
Speaker 4: Said, like, literally, I'm said in it, And I said shit,
Speaker 4: I was like, I think I just took three of
Speaker 4: my muscle relaxers instead of three of my met foremans.
Speaker 1: And literally all the sirens started.
Speaker 2: Going off of like I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna die. And so we had to call it. Yet,
Speaker 2: so the story goes exactly the way you think it did.
Speaker 2: We had to call nine one one, nine one one
Speaker 2: had to come out. They pricked my finger, and they
Speaker 2: do all this stuff to make sure I was good,
Speaker 2: and I told them myself, I'm a big girl.
Speaker 1: I will be okay.
Speaker 2: I think that like, the most you can take is six,
Speaker 2: so three was not going to harm me. There was
Speaker 2: a moment when I got to the airport, though, where
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'm not gonna make it like
Speaker 2: he was like, because the doctor did say or the medicine.
Speaker 2: The medical person was like, you're gonna be really sleepy.
Speaker 2: And when I got to the airport and I got
Speaker 2: past TSA baby the way, I wanted to lay down
Speaker 2: and that TSA and go to sleep like a baby.
Speaker 1: But I survived it. We got home. I'm safe and
Speaker 1: everything is okay.
Speaker 2: But I just definitely want to say travel is my
Speaker 2: noman PAM this week, because when you're rushing and you
Speaker 2: have a lot going on, it makes it very hard
Speaker 2: for you to think clearly. And yeah, so with that
Speaker 2: being said, y'all please be careful if you have to
Speaker 2: take medication. I just thought that was a funny story
Speaker 2: to share. But anyway, what's yours this week?
Speaker 1: Ved?
Speaker 3: And I'm glad like you tried the k y s
Speaker 3: the way I thought you did, so I'm glad it
Speaker 3: was accidental, but girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still sketch, yes man, Pam.
Speaker 3: Just to my friend. I was gonna give a shout
Speaker 3: out to my friend Devon. He's from the South and
Speaker 3: he he he's gonna do what he's trying to do.
Speaker 3: If y'all, if you're on SD, he's trying to do
Speaker 3: a soul food Sunday on Sunday May fourth. It will
Speaker 3: have some chicken and waffles, some good vies, mama promosas,
Speaker 3: some good DJs, all all by back to black Entertainment
Speaker 3: local you know, local, local business and black black queer ran,
Speaker 3: so get into it. I'm not paying for this. I
Speaker 3: just really wanted to shout out because I was like,
Speaker 3: this sounds dope. And if you're on SD, listens an
Speaker 3: SD or in LA won't want come through as well too.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a belief like bomb ass time. I'm
Speaker 3: trying to call myself, I may not be able to
Speaker 3: work and now but what day is it? Sunday? May fourth? Oh, Okay,
Speaker 3: some people may have come of car tickets and to
Speaker 3: on your stand, but if you don't come through, pull up.
Speaker 3: But no, man, Pam is gonna be the let us
Speaker 3: ending with Belinda. Not because I'm mad Linda forgetting her bag,
Speaker 3: but because why can't she taken porn chat with her?
Speaker 3: She didn't know that man, and I am mad, I
Speaker 3: am mad. No she she she don't slept with him,
Speaker 3: and she was ready not and and like like she'
Speaker 3: I'm glad she did that because that man is fine.
Speaker 3: Like she was ready to start a business with him,
Speaker 3: and then got money and she said, I'm gonna the
Speaker 3: exact same, Yeah, I did to her. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: like money money, she just all and I'm glad she
Speaker 3: got to get her bad girl, get her bag, get
Speaker 3: your bair.
Speaker 1: I love that for you so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, acting is amazing, Please be on the show. But
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, why can't she have said, hey, porn shot,
Speaker 3: come with me, because she she was like, I have
Speaker 3: the money to start a spa with me now and
Speaker 3: be my director, Like take him out, take him. The
Speaker 3: only one he was saying to stay is because he
Speaker 3: had connections. You got money, now you're good. So I
Speaker 3: was just like, why, But that's that's that's it, that's all.
Speaker 3: That's all for me.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you know, and I wish we could sit
Speaker 2: and we could really break down the White Lotus because
Speaker 2: there was a lot of stuff that happened this season
Speaker 2: that I was like, I don't know, I feel about this,
Speaker 2: but it was still a great show.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I think it ended the way it
Speaker 1: probably should have ended.
Speaker 2: But I do agree that Belinda should feel a certain
Speaker 2: type of way, or I feel like you have a
Speaker 2: right to feel a certain type of way that Belinda
Speaker 2: did Bornschi the same way that Jennifer Coolige's character did
Speaker 2: Belinda at the end of season one. And so there's
Speaker 2: a lot to be said around that, right, this idea
Speaker 2: of how much we think we're and I think that's
Speaker 2: ultimately what this season was trying to say, specifically thinking
Speaker 2: about the family, right, and the old girl, you know,
Speaker 2: crying about being with the monks.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: You want to be you want to be different, and
Speaker 2: you want to prove that you're different until it's actually
Speaker 2: time to show up and be different. And I thought
Speaker 2: about that a lot this season, specifically, thinking about just
Speaker 2: all of the ends and eye. But yeah, really good season,
Speaker 2: really really good season. I'm here for it, all right, y'all. Well,
Speaker 2: with that being said, please send us your thoughts, whether
Speaker 2: it be about drag race or whether it be about
Speaker 2: the White Lotus. We'd love to read it on the air.
Speaker 2: You can send your emails to Blackfatfimpod at gmails dot com.
Speaker 2: You can also send us your thoughts via social media
Speaker 2: by interacting with our posts on Instagram and Twitter by
Speaker 2: using the handle at Black Fatfempod. Queen Jojo, where can
Speaker 2: the doss find you?
Speaker 3: Per us? You can find me my loves at Jojo
Speaker 3: Daniels across all the socials. Help me get someone followers, girl,
Speaker 3: your bitch, Your bitch wants some damn brand deals, okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Or my website Jordan Dane's dot com. And if not there,
Speaker 3: you will find them on the April not traveling. And
Speaker 3: if you see me, if you see me at an airport,
Speaker 3: if you see me outside the confines of Los Angeles,
Speaker 3: if if I'm going beyond there, bitch, someone slap in
Speaker 3: the face, not too hard, right, like don't don't havent
Speaker 3: the goods.
Speaker 1: But like, don't slack pinch me or something to pinch me?
Speaker 3: Black girl? Why how why are you outside if you
Speaker 3: have a home, If you haven't find my friends, girl,
Speaker 3: go home. Don't let me. Don't don't let me. Don't
Speaker 3: let me get on a plane or take a long
Speaker 3: road trip.
Speaker 2: This month of y'all on tire that has been that
Speaker 2: one thing about me being your friend is that I
Speaker 2: do check your locations, and I'm always so happy go home. Yes,
Speaker 2: I'm so happy when I see that you're at the crib.
Speaker 2: That makes me so happy because I do again, I
Speaker 2: do know. I do be watching my assistant seeing where
Speaker 2: she is, just so I can make sure I can
Speaker 2: yell at you if you do. If you're doing too much.
Speaker 2: As for me and my household, you can find me
Speaker 2: over at ww dot doctor John Paul dot com. We
Speaker 2: have I say this with love. We have added extra
Speaker 2: some extra dates to the to the book tour, which
Speaker 2: is a blessing because they are actually paid dates. There
Speaker 2: are dates that I've been paid to actually go to,
Speaker 2: so gay for that. But with that being said, we
Speaker 2: have a couple of dates through uh April twenty eighth,
Speaker 2: and then I'm pretty much off the entire month of
Speaker 2: May until the end and so if you uh the
Speaker 2: next date that I have by the time you hear this,
Speaker 2: it'll still be time. I will be at Birdcage Books
Speaker 2: in Austin, Texas this upcoming So this week, this week,
Speaker 2: this upcoming Thursday, April seventeenth, I'll be at Birthcake Books
Speaker 2: and Austin, So tell you, tell your friends, tell you Mama,
Speaker 2: tell you Aunties. And then I will be jet setting
Speaker 2: and heading over to Las Vegas and I'll be at
Speaker 2: Analog Dope on the weekend for another talk. It's April
Speaker 2: twentieth and it starts at four pm. So if you
Speaker 2: want to come on down, come on down, if you
Speaker 2: want to see where I will be and keep up
Speaker 2: with me. All of my dates are on my website
Speaker 2: ww dot doctor John paul dot com. You can also
Speaker 2: find me on social at doctor John Paul. All right,
Speaker 2: that it's been another episode. We want to thank our producer,
Speaker 2: By Wang for handling all the logistics, and everyone over
Speaker 2: at iHeartMedia for keeping us up and running. We are
Speaker 2: now into season four quote unquote, it's it's it's nuts
Speaker 2: to think that this little idea that I had has
Speaker 2: grown into this whole kind of universe and I want
Speaker 2: to say this on the air because I mean it
Speaker 2: with every fiber in my body.
Speaker 1: Joho.
Speaker 2: It is such a joy, and it is such a
Speaker 2: pleasure every week to come to this mic and be
Speaker 2: able to I'll say this before I give you your
Speaker 2: full kudos. I was in a room today and it's
Speaker 2: just it's so cool to be able to like think
Speaker 2: about what we've done with this show and how much
Speaker 2: time we've had with this show, and so I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm every day I'm overwhelmed with joy of knowing that
Speaker 2: I have such an amazing co host, that I have
Speaker 2: such an amazing producer, Chris, we have such an amazing editor.
Speaker 2: I know we shout you out every week, but you
Speaker 2: are literally the most amazing and most creative editor that
Speaker 2: we could ever have. And we know that the show
Speaker 2: wouldn't be half of what it is if it wasn't
Speaker 2: for both you and Bay. So again, I always wanted
Speaker 2: to make sure you all get your credit because right
Speaker 2: now everybody needs to know how important they are. But
Speaker 2: that being said, stay black, fat, fim and fabulous, and
Speaker 2: remember what, Joho.
Speaker 3: We may not be a cup of tea, but drink
Speaker 3: some water. That's anyway.
Speaker 1: Bitch.
Speaker 2: You need it anywhere. And can I just say this,
Speaker 2: don't be drinking everybody. Oh, I gotta get my alkaline
Speaker 2: water and all, no drink regular water. That alkaline water
Speaker 2: will mess you up, so it'll throw off your pH
Speaker 2: bounds if you don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: All right, y'all, I love us for real. Take care,
Speaker 1: See you next week by