1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Live from our nations. This budget thing is going to 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: do nothing. Space Force. I still think it's interesting President 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: Trump not playing his cards yet headlines Policy and Politics 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: collidning to sound on with Kevin's Relate, the insiders, the influencers, 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: the insides. I would rather see a congressional solution. It's 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: part of my DNA. The Senate map in looks a 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: lot different than it looked ins You really have a 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: divide within Team Trump. The present has to do exactly 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: what people send him here to do, which is to 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: get it done. He's sound on with Kevin's your Relate 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg one and one five seven m h D two. 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: Boltemore pleas from Miami. I'm Kevin's really chief Washington correspondent 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio, and we are broadcasting 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: live right outside of the first Democratic Debate spin room. 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: All the candidates, they're filing in and out. It's the 16 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: scene of all of the action. Where in the eye 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: of the storm. Tonight, in just a couple of hours, 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: Senator Elizabeth Warren, the Democrat from Massachusetts, make her debut 19 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: on the Democratic presidential debate stage night, one of two 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: ten candidates to night. They've got sixties seconds or so 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: to answer the questions, followed by a thirty second rebuttal. Meanwhile, 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: President Trump Will he said he has to watch, he 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: has to watch this debate. He's in route to the 24 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: G twenty. We've got an all star, all star group. 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: Annaly it imrad of strategist Adrian L. Rock with us 26 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: as is the big Boss, Craig Gordon Bloomberg moves Washington 27 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: Bureau Chief A. B. Stoddard, Associate editor and columnists at 28 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: Real Clear Politicans. She's holding down the fort for me 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: back in our d C bureau. And Patrick Murphy. Patrick 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: Murphy just walked in. He's former Democratic congressman of Florida's 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: eighteenth Congressional District, Miami or Miami like Will Smith Miami. 32 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: But before we get to everything, it is hot and humid. 33 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: But I'm not complaining because we're grateful to be here 34 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: the first, the first Democratic presidential debate. We're kickstarting just 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: a few hours. I was just in the spin room. 36 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: I was talking to an aid to Biden World, former 37 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: Vice President Joe Biden. He's sit in the stage tomorrow, 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: I said, where is former Vice President Joe Biden watching 39 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: the debate. He's back in Delaware. He's gonna be watching 40 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: Dell for the debate tonight in Delaware. He's the clear 41 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: front runner. Everybody wants to know how is he going 42 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: to back against all of the criticism, the criticism that 43 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: he's faced. And tomorrow night he shares the stage with 44 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: the independent senator from Vermont, Senator Bernie Sanders, Adrian L. Rod. Here. 45 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: She's a Democratic strategist, former Clinton presidential campaign director of 46 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: strategic Communications, as well as a former senior raid to 47 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: the Clinton campaign. My boss, Craig Gordon Bloomberg News Washington 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: Bureau chief standing right across from me here in Miami. 49 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: Former Congressman Patrick Murphy. He is a former congressman for 50 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: Clarida's eighteen congressional district and a B stater. Thank you 51 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 1: ab for home down the Ford for us. Back in Washington, 52 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: d C. She's the associate editor and columnists have real 53 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: clear politics. Craig, what are you watching for tonight? What 54 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: is Senator Elizabeth Warren have to do tonight in order 55 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: to remain in the top tier? I mean, look, she 56 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: has the most substance policy positions, and I think she 57 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: actually is kind of right now the voice of the 58 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: Democratic Party. Most everything that she stands for the other 59 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: nineteen candidates in this debate also stand for, with a 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: few small exceptions, maybe Medicare for all, a few things 61 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: like that. But you know, can she hold onto that 62 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: position by both looking smart and tough and there's that 63 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: word electable? Uh? And are the other nine people on 64 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: stage with her tonight going to take shots at her? 65 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: Or are they going to just try to tell their 66 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: story of the American people. I lean towards the latter. 67 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: I wish we had a senior Oh wait, we do 68 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: have a senior Democratic strategist right here on the show, 69 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: Adrian no run. Will the candidates take shots at Senator 70 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: Warren or also like Nott, shots political shots Senator Warren? 71 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: Or will they just save all of their fire for 72 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: President Trump? I think you might see a few shots 73 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: of Elizabeth Born, if only for the fact that she 74 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: is head and shoulders about the rest of the kids 75 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: on that stage in terms of where she is the 76 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: pulling right now, which sort of worked out randomly, right 77 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: because when you and initially when the polling was done, 78 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: it started in January and went to about two weeks ago, 79 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: and so basically the polling averages or what we're used 80 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: out of three, you know, the top three polls. So 81 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: when Elizabeth Warren was initially part of that mix, so 82 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: is Corey Booker. So um was to nix sent Amy 83 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: Klobascher that to over work, but now some of them 84 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: have dropped, so she really does have This is her 85 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: stage tonight. She will have a commanding presence. If I 86 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: were her, if I was advising her, I would say, 87 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: you know what, rise above the fray, focus your policies 88 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: on the contrast that your policies have with Donald Trump's policies, 89 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: and don't really get into the mucky muckey muck with 90 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: the other candidates. Now that's not to say that the 91 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: other candidates won't try to throw the occasional you know 92 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: jab and you know pot shot at her. But I 93 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: think it's going to be her stage tonight, and I 94 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: think that she is going to be the one who 95 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: is in command. A senior Democrat extracts previously advising former 96 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: presidential candidate for the Democrats, Hillary Clinton. We're talking about 97 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: the optics. So much of the optics really and how 98 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: they illustrate the pussy. Senator Elizabeth Warren visiting a detention 99 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: facility earlier today in Homestead, Florida. Homestead, Florida the site 100 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: of this detention facility where children are being kept who 101 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: are here illegally abe Staughter here And from Washington's perspective, 102 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: what do the other candidates, what does former Congressman Beta 103 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: Overorke or Senator Amy colberchar what do they have to 104 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: do tonight to try to get into the top tier. 105 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: Adrian's comments about how this is sort of Elizabeth Warren's 106 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: stage because she's the only top five polar on stage tonight, 107 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: is it It makes it easier for the other people 108 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: like Betta, who's consistently number six and people down in 109 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: the two U tier to to have a moment because 110 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: she's really the only, you know, top contender on stage. 111 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: So I think that they need to try to make 112 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: a case. Um, they won't have a lot of time, 113 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: but they'll have more notice, probably because it's not going 114 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: to be like tomorrow night when everyone is watching the 115 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: dynamics between you know, at least six or seven people, 116 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: So they have to make the case that to make 117 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 1: them more memorable, they need to they need to say 118 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: something different. I don't think it's gonna be worth attacking 119 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: Biden or Elizabeth Warren on this stage tonight if you're 120 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: one of the lower hanging fruit uh in the polling, 121 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: and I think that, Um, what's gonna be interesting is 122 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: to see if Elizabeth Warren actually tries to say anything 123 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: subtly about the former Vice president saw Joe Biden, or 124 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: she goes takes the gloves off or Bernie Sanders, who 125 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: aren't going to be there a chance to respond. So 126 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: that also is a high risk proposition. I wonder if 127 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: she's gonna for herself that opportunity since she won't be 128 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: on stage with them tomorrow night. Patrick Murphy's your former 129 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: congressman for Florida's eighteenth congressional district. Then you know, just 130 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: in terms of how difficult this is gonna be to 131 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: really get a moment. I mean you look at sort 132 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: of the rundown that TikTok for how this is going 133 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: to play out. They've got sixty seconds sixty seconds. I 134 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: can't stop talking at six seconds in order to make 135 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: their point, and then they have thirty seconds for a bottle, 136 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: no opening statements, and then if they will conclude, they 137 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: can give a concluding remarks you multiply that if you're 138 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: at home and you're just joining the party and you're 139 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: trying to figure out who to vote for, and you've 140 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: got to hear like twenty pitches. Plus there's people who 141 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: aren't even gonna be on the stage, I e. Joe Sestak. 142 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: How do you even prepare for something like this? Well, 143 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: a lot of the training that's been going into this 144 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: isn't just about the what is said about the language. 145 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: It's about the body language, right It's about the subtleties 146 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: that people on TV are gonna be looking for because 147 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: you and I, you know the viewers I was listening 148 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: right now, when you meet somebody, you make a determination 149 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: about them within a split second. These candidates are all 150 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: these candidates are all being trained right now to notice 151 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: that body language. And it's not just about that that moment, 152 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: which is important with a little bit Warren, It's gonna 153 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: be about going after Joe Biden. That is the clear 154 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: front runner right now in this race. So the candidates 155 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: Wildlizbeth Oranges and a Room. I think they're also really 156 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: gonna be going after Vice President Biden. I think Patrick 157 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 1: Minh is a really important point, which is the body language. 158 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: That's something that we're not hearing is much from you know, 159 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: from pendance, from reporters and whatnot, but it is so important, 160 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: especially with twenty people who are going to be debating 161 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: over the next two days, ten people on the stage 162 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: each night, the body language is really important. And you know, 163 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: some of the best debate coaches in the country, um 164 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: ron Klain, who's um our friend of mine, is also 165 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: advising Joe Biden and managing his debate prep um ron 166 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: Klain is very good about making it clear that you 167 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: cannot look defensive. You've got a very calm demeanor about yourself. 168 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: You've got to have, you know, a posture that even 169 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: when you're being attacked, it does not appear overly defensive. 170 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: Of course, Patrick here has done debates, I mean he 171 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: ran against Marco Rubio um for the United States sent 172 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: and so you yourself have done quite a few debates too, 173 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: and you probably have some good tips to to share. 174 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: That's the only reason I was able to say what 175 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: I just said was because that's what a lot of 176 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: the training was, quite frankly, was that body language was, 177 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: that posture was getting a ten minute answer down to 178 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: a crisp sixty seconds where those talking points don't sound 179 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: like talking points, but sound like you just thought of 180 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: this brilliant response to an answer on student debt or 181 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: climate or healthcare right and being a personable offense ofthenity. 182 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: Here's your dark horse, Craig Betto. I would look for Betto, 183 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: and he's still in my sort of top six as 184 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: I rate the field, so I guess he's not that 185 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: dark of a dark horse. But you know, people fell 186 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: in love with the bettle Rourk that ran against and 187 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: almost beat ted Cruz. There's people are kind of varish 188 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: on him right now if he uh, you know, stares 189 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: into that camera is thunder. Yes, there can only be 190 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: one or the other, can you. You can't have Betto 191 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: and Mayor Pete. And right now Mayor Pete's taking up 192 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: all the oxygen and the what I would call sort 193 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: of the Hopie change lane a little bit there. But 194 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: Betto has a chance to get some of that now. 195 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: I interviewed folks who are outside here and they drove 196 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: nineteen and a half hours. Nineteen and a half hours 197 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: they drove from Texas to be here at this first debate. 198 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: They like Betto, they said, and they took their grants 199 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: on seven year old grants and he's a he said, 200 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: he's he said he wants to grow. They say he's 201 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: the he's the next lesser hal I thought that was nice. 202 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: Nineteen and a half hours to do this. Coming up, 203 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: we talked much more live from outside of the Spin 204 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: room from the first Democratic Presidential Debate panel stays I'm 205 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Sirelli. Download the Sound On podcast on Apple iTunes, 206 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: at Bloomberg dot com or by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. 207 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: You can find me on radio dot com, I Heart 208 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: Radio and Spotify. You're listening to Bloomberg. This is Sound 209 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: On with Givins. He related on Bourde and one oh 210 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: five point seven m h D two bolder. They want 211 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: to make a deal more than I do. Let me 212 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: put it back, Okay, they want to make a deal. 213 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: That was President Trump speaking earlier today on Fox Business 214 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: with Maria barbar Roma, talking about making a deal with 215 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: President Chi Jing Ping of China, President Trumps and routes 216 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: of the G twenty in Osaka, Japan. He was asked 217 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: also if he's gonna watch the Democratic presidential debate. He 218 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: says he doesn't have a choice, so he has to 219 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: with me here live in Miami Democratic just Adrian L. Rod. 220 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: We are literally standing just outside Spin room. We're gonna 221 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: be in there for our coverage of that later this evening. 222 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: Also Craig Gordon Bloomberg News Washington Bureau Chief Congressman, Democratic 223 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: Congressman of Florida's eighteen congressional District Patrick Murphy, and Aby Stoddard. 224 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: Abe Stoddard's back missing all the funnyby she's holding down 225 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: the ford for us in Washington, DC. Associate editor and 226 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: columnists at Real Clear Politics, Aby, how is the issue 227 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 1: of socialism democratic socialism gonna play tonight? Because Senator Elizabeth 228 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: Warren says she's not a socialist, that she's a capitalist 229 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: with rules. She believes in rules, Whereas Senator Sanders on 230 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: the stage tomorrow night, he says, hey call him a socialist, right. 231 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: That's why I'm I'm so fascinated to see if she, 232 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, resists the temptation or gives into the temptation 233 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: to sort of contrast herself with the Sanders, who's not 234 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: going to be there to rebut a lot of I 235 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: had a Democratic member raised this with me recently. You know, 236 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: she's a she's a capitalist and I do you think 237 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: the rest of the country knows that? And he said no, Basically, 238 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: most of the general electorate population looks at the two 239 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: of them is sort of the same, right, A lot 240 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: of their policy positions are similar, and that they must 241 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: line up to be the same you know type of uh, 242 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, socialist news socialist Democrats. So um, it'll be 243 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: interesting to see what kind of um remarks she makes 244 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: on that today, whether or not anyone like John Delaney 245 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: tries to counter that and say, you know, we really 246 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: can't be the party of socialism because what the president 247 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: wants the most is for the Democrats to embrace socialism 248 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: so he can say that he's going to save the 249 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: country from becoming Venezuela. So the actual label is important, um, 250 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: and some of the Democrats think it's a very dangerous trap. 251 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: So uh, the idea that she is a capitalist is 252 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: something that she would, you know, if she becomes a 253 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: top if she stays in the top three, she's going 254 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: to have to um brand herself with um distinction that issue. 255 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: Speaking of branding yourself, I mean Congressman Tim Ryan, He's 256 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: a Democrat from Ohio, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio. The all important Ohio. 257 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,359 Speaker 1: He's the modern Patrick Murphy. I mean, is it possible 258 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: for a centrist candidate to really kind of just get 259 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: a coalition behind them and on the Democratic socialists? It 260 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: would sure seem like a stretch for that to be 261 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: the reality. And it's not just what's happening in our country, 262 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: but the truth that is happening around the world. Though 263 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: though the moderate candidate isn't really winning, right, it's the 264 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: socialists on one end or the strong man on the other. Personally, 265 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: I think it's because of income inequality. You have to 266 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: boil it all down. People are angry, they're piste off 267 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: right now right, they're seeing more inequality than ever thanks 268 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: to social media and TV and everything else. They are 269 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: seeing more of this disparity and they're upset about it. 270 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: And they've been lied to time and time again. They've 271 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: been promised so many different things and it hasn't panned 272 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: out for them, and they're seeing the top point one 273 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: percent doing better than ever. So I think it all 274 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: boils down to incomality. There is one moderate that could 275 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: win the nomination. His name is Joe Biden. He's still model. 276 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: You also have to be the vice president of Barack 277 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: Obama for two terms and the senator for four hundred 278 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: years or whatever he was in the Senate. So look, 279 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 1: Tim Ryan is a Tim Ryan is the candidate the 280 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: Democrats tried to cook up in the laboratory, sort of 281 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: post Clinton, right, Midwestern. He's kind of tall guy. Okay, 282 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: point out for that, but otherwise on yoga, is a 283 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: vegan with yoga, and I'm sorry the country doesn't want 284 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: it to diverse panel. Very streamely um, but no, I mean, look, 285 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: I think Democrats twenty years ago Tim Ryan was sort 286 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: of exactly the person they wanted, you know, kind of midwestern, 287 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: good looking, strong jaw, young Stown, Ohio. Right now, that 288 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: is not where the Democratic Party is, and that's why 289 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: Warren is having her moment, and that's why I think 290 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: the only moderate moderate air quotes Greg Gordon is the boss. 291 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: You can say whatever he wants, go ahead, Andrean. Well, No, 292 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: I think to Creig's point about Tim Ryan, he's been 293 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: somebody that I've consistently said, I think maybe sort of 294 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: the dark force breakout candidates night, because you know, to 295 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: him has been in Patrick of Court, served in Congress 296 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: with him, and I've known him for a long time 297 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: he's been talking about, you know, rebuilding the you know 298 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: middle class um, you know, basically rebuilding middle class in 299 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: middle America and rebuilding the manufacturing base. He's talked a 300 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: lot about bringing jobs from Silicon Valley out to the 301 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: middle of Ohio. Young's town, Ohio is where he was 302 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: born and raised. And you know, he for him, I 303 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: mean the debate, I'm sure he's going through it, but 304 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: he's kind of got his stick down and I think 305 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: he just has not been able to really deliver this 306 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: in a larger scale. So when you contrast him tonight, 307 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: some of the other candidates like Elizabeth Born did to 308 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: be far more progressive. For example, I think he's in 309 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: better or work tennists into I think he's gonna really shine. 310 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of voters out 311 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: there who are saying, you know what, I thought Joe 312 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: Biden was the only guy who could probably win back 313 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: some of these wide working class voters. But now I'm 314 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: seeing this other guy called named Tim Ryan from Ohio 315 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: and Daisies who meditates apparently um road book about it. 316 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: But it's also somebody who just has such a strong 317 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: message on you know, on on a set of issue, 318 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to jobs and rebuilding. That manufacturing 319 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: base in Middle America had a lot of Democratic He 320 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: told me about the meditation. Christine Barader, executive producer, Maybe 321 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: come in here. Yeah. The thing is that I'm fascinated 322 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: by it is not only how durable Joe Biden has 323 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: been in polling and seeing how people are looking for 324 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: that the party seems to be much less sort of 325 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: woke and on and left and progressive as we were 326 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: told they were in the primary electorate, uh, and more 327 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: kind of moderate and centrist. But also that they're they're 328 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: really placing a premium not only an electability but on experience. 329 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: And so that's something that's going to be a struggle 330 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: for Tim Ryan. So there's something about how we boomerang back. 331 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: You know that we wouldn't have gotten Trump without Obama. 332 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: And there either is a hunger um in the general 333 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: electorate and also possibly in the Democratic primary electorate for 334 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: someone who could do the job in their sleep, and 335 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: and that you know, president him, President Trump, the outsider 336 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: without any experience, UM, in their view is is a disaster. 337 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: And so UM, I think these congressmen who are early 338 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: in their terms or they've never had a national platform. 339 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: Um or even senators are not enough of a heavyweight. 340 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: When these people think about choosing someone to not only 341 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: go up against President Trump, but beat him and then 342 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: govern us out of the problems they believe Trump created. 343 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: Senator Elizabeth Warren's on the station, like Congressman sim Ryan 344 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: Betta Rourke, Senator Amy Clobtar. I think Senator Clobhar could 345 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: have a good night, just because the expectations for Senator 346 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: Warrant are potentially very very high. Governor j Ininsley Tulsa, Gabber, 347 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: John Delaney, the Blasio Castro, and Senator Corey Booker, who, 348 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: by the way, doesn't have AirPods. I saw him on 349 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: the flight from Reagan down here to Miami and he 350 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: yet No I have beats, but he has. He has 351 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: like those those Coard things. Anyway, coming up, much more 352 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: politics and policy with the All Star panel. Gordon here, 353 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: Buz sorry, I'm a millennial. Yeah, I'm Kevin Surili. You're 354 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg ninety nine one. This is sound on 355 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: with Kevin's he related on Bloomberg one and one oh 356 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: five point seven of m h D two Baltimore. I'm 357 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: Kevin Sireli, chief correspondent for Bloomberg Television of Bloomberg Radio. 358 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm in Miami. I gotta get some Versailles. That's this 359 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: like famous Cuban restaurant down here. Every time I come 360 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: to Miami and that's where I gotta eat. It got 361 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: like this Cuban street food delicious. Joining me on the line, Well, 362 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: thanks for calling in. He is the director of Strategic 363 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: Rapid Response for President Trump's re election campaign. Mark, First, 364 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: have you been to versaillya to get some Cuban food? 365 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: And secondly, what are you going to be watching for tonight? Well, no, Kevin, 366 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't able to do that. I didn't know that 367 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: the National Committee chairwoman was there this afternoon, uh and 368 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: touring and talking to folks and at that location. Of course, 369 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: I was not able to go because I had this 370 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: interviews with you and other folks. Uh, go chill throughout 371 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: the day. You Now, I'll tell you, Kevin, what I'm 372 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: looking for tonight. What I think we're going to see 373 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: you is a free for all. Everything is free for 374 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: and uh, and that's what the Democrats are going to do. 375 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: And as I said I told you earlier, I think 376 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: the more and more the Democrats talk about their policies, 377 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: it's gonna end up being a four hour infomercial for 378 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: the reelection of President Trump. So who gives you pause? 379 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: Is it Senator Elizabeth Warren? Is it? Uh? Federal work? 380 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: Is it? Mayor build a Blasio. I We really don't 381 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: see any of the Democrat candidates as being any different 382 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: from each other. They're all having to endorse a lot 383 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: of these radical proposals, whether it's standing the Green New 384 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: Deal or for you know, taking over government. Uh, you know, 385 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: we're private health insurance taking a d eighty million people 386 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: within fair employer Prorivate health care and twenty million Americans 387 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: Jenior CENAC, Golfler Medicare advantage plan. We've seen so many 388 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: positions coming out of the Democrat field, though oh endorsing them, 389 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: and I would ever one actually wins the nomination is 390 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: going to have to defend those against President Mark latter 391 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: He is the director of Strategic Rapid Response for the 392 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: President Trump's re election campaign. Abe Stoddard, she's also with 393 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: us holding down the Fort UH in Washington, d C. 394 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: She is the associate editor and columnists are real Clear Politics. Abe. 395 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: If you have a question for Mark, feel free to 396 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: ask him. Well, I mean, I'm interested in in whether 397 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: or not the president is gonna be live tweeting, uh 398 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: or I call it um throughout both nights UM and 399 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: about twenty candidates, or whether um less would be more Well, 400 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: I'd rather there if he will be live tweeting or not. 401 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to get ahead of the partid m 402 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: would be as you will. Moy is on airthoch one 403 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: right now, headed halfway around the world to comment Nobaka, Japan. 404 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: Uh So, while I'm sure obviously if he's watching some 405 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: of it and decide, you know, I can do that, 406 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: but also I know he'll have a lot of things 407 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: to prepare for that twenty summit. Alright, We're gonna have 408 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: to leave it there, Mark, thanks for checking in with us. 409 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: Uh be sure to check on my interview with Mark 410 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Television. It's on Bloomberg tv dot com coming up. 411 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: The panel reacts and we also have a final preview 412 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: plus policy policy. Is there that much of a difference 413 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: between the populous streak of Republicans and Democrats as it 414 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: relates to trade? President trumpson routes to the G twenty 415 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: Osaka Japan. I'm Kevin Cirelli. You can download the sounds 416 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: on podcasts on Apple, it tunes, at Bloomberg dot com, 417 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: or by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. You can also 418 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: find us on Radio dot com, I Heart Radio and Spotify. 419 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg. This is sound On with related 420 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg one and seven. A M h D two Boltemore, 421 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: Greetings from a hot human Miami, where we are just 422 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: a couple of hours old from the pick off of 423 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: the NBC MSNBC Telemundo first Democratic presidential debate. They're gonna 424 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: ten candidates taken tonight. Get Ready, I'm gonna go through 425 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: the Booker Castro De Lazio, Delaney Gabber, Jamesley, co Beta O'Rourke, 426 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: Tim Ryan, and Senator Elizabeth Warren. That's tonight. A. B. 427 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: Stoddard is holding down the Ford for me while I 428 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: am in Miami. She is the real Clear Politics Associate 429 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: editor and columnist Hid Gordon's with me here in Miami. 430 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: He's the big boss. He is the Bloomberg News Washington 431 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: bureau chief, as well as Democratic strategist Adrian L. Rod. 432 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: She is a senior adviser to the Clinton for form 433 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: former Clinton campaign and former congress Murphy's also here. He 434 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: represented Florida's eighteenth congressional district as a Democratic congressman. A B. 435 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 1: I mean, just procedurally twenty candidates talk about it. From 436 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: the d n C perspective, this could be either an 437 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: illustration of things going very well where they have many 438 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: many candidates running and voters can take their pick, or 439 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: it could be I don't know, disorganized. Well, look, let's 440 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: be honest, this is never what the party wants UM 441 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: and they can't wait to get to the next stage, 442 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: which is when people will have to say goodbye and 443 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: they will raise the criteria to a hundred and thirty 444 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: thousand individual donors for the debates in September, and it's 445 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: time to um win of the field. So they what 446 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: what what? What we've heard for months with all these 447 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,239 Speaker 1: people getting in is it's so great we have all 448 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: these voices and all this energy, and this such a 449 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: diverse party. It's so exciting. A big debate is upon us. 450 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: But they really want this narrow down as as soon 451 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: as possible. So this debate we will not remember, I mean, 452 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: unless you know. Obviously there are individual interesting moments of drama. 453 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: We don't know that this is actually gonna really be 454 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: consequential in the long term because there are too many 455 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: of them, They're speaking for too short a time. It's 456 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, back to back to night, And what they 457 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: didn't want to happen is it's completely uneven with all 458 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: the top pollars in one night and just Elizabeth Warren 459 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: one of the top five by herself in the first night. So, um, 460 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: I do think that they want to admit this on 461 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: the record, but this is something they're just trying to 462 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: really get through and they'll get through it. But it's 463 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: a dangerous knighte for the Democratic Party in my view. 464 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: If I'm one of the people on that stage that 465 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm not named Elizabeth Warren, I'm gonna try to I 466 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: might want to try to say something sort of outrageous 467 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: to get that Twitter moment, to get that thing that's 468 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: played over and over and over again on CNN. If 469 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: you have nine people doing that, you could have nine 470 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: pretty cookie moments that make the Democratic Party look, you know, 471 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: a little actious, a little a little outside the mainstream. Um. 472 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: And suddenly, as our previous guest Mark Ladder said, Donald 473 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: Trump is not looking so bad. I'm not predicting this. 474 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm guessing Tom PRESI sitting in a 475 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: very other condition suite somewhere tonight, terrified of that outcome. 476 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: I talked to tomper As, the chairman of the d NC. 477 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: He seemed to be a good spirits greg just for 478 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: what it's worth. He was smiling, he was walking out. 479 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: You know, he's he's a biker. He rides his bike. 480 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: I don't it's kind of a little too hot down 481 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: here in Miami. All right, Adrian Rod, Democratic strategist. You 482 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: heard from two of the best in the business, Baby Stoddard, 483 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: associate columnists and associate editor at columnists at Real Clear 484 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: Politics dot com, our boss Craig Gordon, the Washington bureau chief. 485 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: They they're saying this could be a mess. Adrian. Yeah, look, 486 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: I am going to respectively disagree with your boss, who's amazing. 487 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: I don't think this is gonna be a mess at all. 488 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: But I do think, and I have I have said 489 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: this on the record quite a few times in the 490 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: last few days. I do think that candidates should stressed 491 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: out having a viral moment and focus more on introducing 492 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: themselves to the American voters, the American electorate. Well, for one, 493 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: I think it's hard to manufacture a viral moment, right, 494 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if you have something memorized that you want 495 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: to say that you want to get across, what if 496 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: the opportunities does not present itself to get that point across? 497 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: And then if you really you know, did in debate 498 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: prep and whatnot, really honed in on that one particular 499 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: line or a set of lines, and then you you know, 500 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: flood it in some way, shape or form, sort of 501 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: like the Corey Booker Spartacus moment in the Judiciary Committee hearing. 502 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that will little fire, that will very fire. 503 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: So you know, my advice to candidates is to let 504 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: this first date be a chance to get your sea 505 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: legs underneath you, become comfortable introduce yourself to the American voters. 506 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: You might have a you know, viral that happens organically, 507 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: and that's great, but focus less on that and focus 508 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: more on getting your message across. In by the way, 509 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: shop that the eight minutes of it. Yeah, and you're 510 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: not even going to get to breathe. I mean, like 511 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: you have more time to come on sound on. You 512 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: can talk for as long as you want uh. Former 513 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: Congressman Patrick Murphy of Florida's Congressional District eight teen, do 514 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: you think it's going to be a mess? Look? I 515 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: think the Republicans and and President Trump and others are 516 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: going to to frame this as a train wreck and 517 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: a mess because there will be some borderline thinks probably 518 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: said that I might not agree with. That. Danger is 519 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 1: that people then start to fall that other candidates have 520 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: to fall inline and go toward this new extreme policy whatever. 521 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: That then it turns off voters who are watching at home. 522 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: It's that's the Democratic Party, yes, and and that that 523 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: is the risk because as Adrian said, this is really 524 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: a moment to introduce yourself. The vast majority of Americans 525 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: have no idea who these people are. They've got to 526 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: introduce themselves. And whomever can combine both policy and personality 527 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: I think is going to be that quote unquote breakout 528 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: person of this evening. So we'll see it all plays out, um, 529 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: But voters that are sort of sober and their analysis 530 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: are gonna see a very large spectrum of candidate here. Right. 531 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: This isn't just a bunch of progressive or a bunch 532 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: of moderates. You've got it at all. I mean you 533 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: look here at uh Congressman John Delaney of very successful 534 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: business person Electivititions twelve. He's gonna be as pro business 535 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: as any Republican out there, and you know, as a 536 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: Republican would be analyzing this um. And then you've got 537 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: Bill de Blasio is probably progressive as anybody on this stage, 538 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: along Elizabeth Warren. So it's a it's a big spectrum. Yeah, 539 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: and that's the one place where the Democratic you know 540 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: party could look Well, you've got James Ley on there 541 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: talking about um talking about climate change is number one 542 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: issue people worry about climate there, you know, if he 543 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: has a smart program for how to deal with that, 544 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: that's the real thing. We all know, everything ever around 545 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: this table knows. Amy Klovich are personally, to some extent 546 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: unbelievably funny, warm person can project that sort of Midwest 547 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: get it done spiritally and Castro obviously Corey Booker, you know, 548 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: brings a little more of it, maybe a softer touch. 549 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: So the flip side, the happy area maybe for Adrian 550 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: would be if if they actually say, like, oh, there's 551 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: actually a lot of different voices there and they bring 552 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: each bring a little something to the to the mosaic here, 553 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: and Okay, I want to hear more from these people 554 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: because I wan't want him to beat Donald Trump. I 555 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: do think, Kevin Um. What I'm going to be also 556 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: really interested in is the places the questions where the 557 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: candidates are going to try to sort of dodge they 558 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: can't contrast with the president very well. You're like on trade, right, 559 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: trade and pulling troops out of the Middle East. I 560 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: mean basically Warren is lined up with the president and 561 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: those are the questions they're not gonna want to answer. 562 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 1: And that actually is you know, for Um, for a 563 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: lot of voters in the middle who're going to vote 564 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: for President Trump, but maybe a Republican or Independent, they're 565 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: going to be listening for those answers. Adrian, I mean, 566 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: is there meant to to abs point on the issue 567 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: like trade. I mean that populous streak of policy really 568 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: does exist with President Trump, who is going over to 569 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,239 Speaker 1: the G twenty and Osaka, Japan meeting with President Si 570 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: Jing Ping. And on the left, I mean, look, you 571 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: know this, respectfully, Senator Bernie Sanders ripped rips like tour 572 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: apart on the Clinton camp, hit on NETA, and against 573 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: so we're still talking about that, I'm giving you a flashbacks. 574 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: You're also giving me PTSD on t p P, which 575 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: is something that we really a line with on the campaign. Um, 576 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, look, absolutely I think that that this is 577 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: an area contrast and I think, you know, I'm interested 578 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: to actually know if the debate moderate moderators even get 579 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: to a question about trains, we have the immigration. I 580 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: think they have to, but I think we've got you know, 581 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: we've got the immigration. You know that the horrible photo 582 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: that's been going viral today of the father and his 583 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: um young daughter trying to cross the border. I have 584 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: a feeling that that's going to be injected into debate, 585 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: which might not. I think immigration would have come up, 586 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: but but I'm not sure that that particular you know, 587 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: that humanitarian aspect of this to that level would have 588 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: come up to this. So, you know, I think the 589 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: debate moderators will probably get to trade, but I'm not 590 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: entirely sure how much that issue will dominate the night. Well, 591 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: we're in Miami, so the environment is going to come up, 592 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: climate change is gonna come up, and if it's not 593 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: asked that that those candidates will force that issue. Immigration undoubtedly, 594 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: Uh and student debt has been been hot. Uh you 595 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: know in the news recently, Center Senator Elizabeth the Warren 596 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: has been talking about a bold new proposal. Uh so 597 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: that I think those are gonna be a lot of 598 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: the issues that are I always wonder why folks, you know, 599 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: they go up like it's interesting to see the critiques 600 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 1: of big business and big tech, but never a big 601 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: education like higher education. Abrod Are we going to hear 602 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: about Iran? Especially as the president has imposed new additional 603 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: sanctions as as you got Tulsa Gabbert up there on 604 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: the stage tonight. What are we going to hear about Ran? Well, 605 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: that's the thing. We know what Tulsea Gabbert is gonna say. 606 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: She's gonna talk, She's gonna do a riff on regime change, 607 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: wars and um, she's quite repetitive on it. But I 608 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: am interested, like I said, to see where the candidates 609 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: actually don't contrast so much with the president. What would 610 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: they do? Do they support regime change in Iran? Do 611 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: they support additional sanctions? How effective do they think the 612 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: sanctions campaign have been? Um? Are we in it? Should we? Do? 613 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: You know? Have diplomatic um relations? Whold we begin and 614 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: endeavor UM at talks. Is there a way UM to 615 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: come back to the table after the j C p 616 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: o A and just do another deal? So those are 617 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: questions I think that they, like trade, are not gonna 618 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: want to answer, and I hope they get asked. Alright, 619 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: final question, I got like two minutes, so quickly, Aby, 620 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: I'll start with you. By the way, Aby, thank you, 621 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: my friend. We've eaten all the snacks. Forget it, we 622 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: ransacked the place. Who's who wins? Who Winston? Who loses Tonight? 623 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Elizabeth Warren is going to 624 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: have a great night. I just do think that she is. 625 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: And I don't know who the breakout star is going 626 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: to be besides Adriana Rod who wins tonight? Who loses? 627 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: I think Elizabeth Warren wins Tonight? And I don't really 628 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: know particularly who loses, But I think Tim Ryan is 629 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: going to be my breakout Starig Gordon, I will be 630 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: shocked if the lead of our story isn't that Elizabeth 631 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: Warren did nothing to jeopardize her sort of rising number 632 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: two positions of the polls. Who is the other nine? 633 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: It was with the one will be the professor that 634 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: she is and and and have command of the issues. 635 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: And I think Cloba Shar could be the breakout. She's 636 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: got a lot of personality. She's witty, she's quick on 637 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: her feet, that Midwest sort of personnel, saying Amy Klobachar, 638 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: Why why not? Amy? There's too many candidates to focus on, 639 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, one, It's tough to pick one. Hey, anybody, 640 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: it could be Anybody's a lot of great people on 641 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: here running Does that? Does do it? Do you think 642 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: they go after Trump more? Craig quickly? Do they go 643 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: after Trump more? Or do they go after If I 644 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: were if I were a Democratic sannying on that stage, 645 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't waste a minute on the ten of people 646 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: standing around me. There's only one. You gotta taken gloves off, 647 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: all right. I want to thank everybody. Craig, Thank you, Aby, 648 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: thank you, Adrian, thank you, Patrick, thank you. I'm Kevin Serriff, 649 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. 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