1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. It is time 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: for our twenty twenty four off season blueprint, when Garrett 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: and I break down all we could see happening. Obviously 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: we don't have the crystal ball, but this is how 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: we could see it playing out for the Ravens this offseason. 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: It's officially off season mode. The Super Bowl's done, kind of, 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: let's kind of I feel like this is when the 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: healing process begins. 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: I think it's been underway the past couple of weeks, 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: and now now you at least have concrete things to 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: start looking forward to. 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly. 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: So, Garrett, with no further ado, let's get into the 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: Ravens have a lot of free agents. Okay, and you 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: know there's varying numbers of how many free agents it 16 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: is based on void years and all that stuff. But 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: it's twenty plus. It's over twenty, right, so there's a 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: lot of work to be done. We're not going to 19 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: go through every single guy here, but let's take turns 20 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: and go through some of the big names on the 21 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: Ravens pending unrestrictive free agent list and talk about what 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: we could see in vision, what we can see happening here, And. 23 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: Just to kind of set the stage, I think this 24 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: in terms of you you look at the number of 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: players and the quality of players, and this, to me 26 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: is the most significant free agent class that the Ravens 27 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: have had in a long time. You have impact players 28 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball who the Ravens have 29 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: to make some difficult decisions about. And they're also going 30 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: to be pressed tight against a salary cap because they 31 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: have some really good players under contract. Lamar Jackson of 32 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: course assigned under contract. They have other guys like Mark 33 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: Andrews and others on this team, so it's not like 34 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: they have a ton of salary cap space. And then 35 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: you have some players who have really emerged, Patrick Queen, 36 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: justin Mattabique at the top of that list, who are 37 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: now set to hit the open market and get some 38 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: big time money. So just to kind of set the 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: stage there, I think you start the conversation here with 40 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: Queen and Mattabik. Those are the two. So in terms 41 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: of Patrick Queen, you know, I would love to find 42 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: a way to get him back here. I would absolutely 43 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: love it. I think that he's player that I've really 44 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: liked since the time that the Ravens drafted him. I've 45 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: been high on him even when it was people were 46 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: low on him, you know, And it seemed like in 47 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: his second early in his third season, people were kind 48 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: of doubting him. I've always liked him as a player, 49 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: as a person, I think he's a great fit. I 50 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 2: think it's challenging, though, to pay two inside linebackers top dollar. 51 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 2: The Ravens have already paid Rokwan Smith, and so it's 52 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: hard for me to see a way that the Ravens 53 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: can pay two of the best five inside linebackers in 54 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: the game a top dollar. I just it's hard for 55 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: me to see that. As much as I want it, like, 56 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 2: I want to find a way for them to keep 57 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: both those both those guys and keep the Queen roquand 58 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: do it together. But I'm having a hard time seeing 59 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: that the Ravens are able to make that happen. 60 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: Look at the at the end of the day, this 61 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: is what we all said when the Ravens signed Roquan 62 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: Smith to the extension, even when they traded for Rokwan 63 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: Smith and gave up a second round pick, that they 64 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: were making a major commitment to Rokwan Smith, and that was, 65 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: they still felt really great about Patrick Queen, but then 66 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: they didn't pick up the fifth year option because that 67 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: would have been expensive, also a contract extension. 68 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: He's played since then, he's become. 69 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: A pro bowler and an All Pro and so he's 70 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: only made that value go up from what it would 71 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: have been when they declined the fifth year option. So 72 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: I just don't think dollars and cents it probably. I 73 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: just don't think it really makes sense. It's not feasible 74 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: for the Ravens to make that happen. 75 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: I mean, he's probably gonna get a deal in the 76 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: neighborhood of what Roquan got. So you're looking at probably 77 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: twenty million dollars a year for Patrick Queen. You know, 78 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: he could get a five year, hundred million dollar contracts 79 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: or something in that neighborhood, and that's that's a hefty 80 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: price to pay when you've already got the guy next 81 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: to him who's making that amount of money. 82 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: Well, and it boils down to, really, this offseason, can 83 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: the Ravens retain one of Patrick, Patrick Queen or Justin Matabukay. 84 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: And to me, when you already have Roquan Smith playing 85 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: next to Patrick Queen, you have Trent and Simpson, who 86 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: is not to Patrick Queen's level yet but showed promise, 87 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: showed growth over his rookie season, showed promise in that 88 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: season finale against the Steilers. You have kind of an 89 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: air apparent there in waiting. He's gonna have to work 90 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: and become a better player and all that stuff, as 91 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: all young players do. But I think Trent and Simpson's 92 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: probably the guy who gets a shake at becoming the 93 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: Patrick Queen replacement. Yeah, it's harder to envision who that 94 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: player would be replacing. Justin Mattebekee moving forward. He's a 95 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: rare dude. And look, Patrick McQueen is too. Not many 96 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: guys are as good as him. But when you talk 97 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: about interior pressure, the quickness, the explosion, the need there, 98 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: I think even watching the Super Bowl you see Chris 99 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: Jones w reckon shop against the forty nine ers, it 100 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: stresses even more the importance of having that interior pressure 101 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: guy defensive tackle who can cause nightmares for the opposing offense. 102 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Justin Mattabeue is that guy led all NFL defensive tackles 103 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: in sacks last year. This is an ascending player. I 104 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: think he's still ascending and to me, if you are 105 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: able to sign one of them long term, it makes 106 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: more sense for the Ravens to do that with Justin Mattebeka. 107 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: I think with Mattabk he's going to be on the 108 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: team in twenty twenty four. It's a question whether he's 109 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: franchised or whether the Ravens work out a long term contract. 110 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: That to me is the question. 111 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: I think they're going to work really hard to get 112 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: that long term contract. Look, right now, they're projected. This 113 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: is Brian mcfarley of Russell Street Report. He does great 114 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: work on the Ravens salary cap, kind of predicting it, 115 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: breaking this whole thing down. Check out Brian's work at 116 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: Russell Street Report. Brian projects the Ravens are going to 117 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: have about three point six million dollars under the salary cap. 118 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: That's what they're going to start at, and so that's 119 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: not a whole lot of room, especially when you're talking south. 120 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: The franchise tag for Justin Mattabik is projected to be 121 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: just over twenty million dollars twenty point three, so you're 122 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: already well into the Red seventeen mili in the Red. Yeah, 123 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: so they'd have a lot of work to do to 124 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: make that work. To me, it makes a whole lot 125 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: more sense, and I think the Ravens would prefer to 126 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: get a long term deal done with Justin Maddebik. That 127 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they could still tag him and then 128 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: get a long term deal done after that. That's certainly 129 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: an avenue they could go down. They've done it before, 130 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: but I think ultimately that's what the aim will be. 131 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the franchise tag, just looking at how 132 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: these things have gone in the past like that seems 133 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: like a pretty likely option that they could use the 134 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: franchise tag as a band aid to eventually try to 135 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: work out that long term deal. It happened last year 136 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: with Lamar Jackson, so it's happened plenty of times. I 137 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: think that that could very well be the scenario. Now. 138 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: The trickiest part of that is you really want to 139 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: get that done obviously prior to the actual new league 140 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: year starting. That's the key there, you know, because then 141 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: you know exactly how much money you have to work with. 142 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: For sure. 143 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: Last year, the Ravens went in there with Lamar tagged 144 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: and then they ended up working out the extension right 145 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: before the draft and so in theory, you would like 146 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: to try to get that done prior to free agency opening. 147 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: Right now, that still worked out all right for the 148 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: still worked out okay, so it doesn't really it can 149 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: work both ways, but you would prefer it to go 150 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: the other way. So the first kind of big date 151 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: as we're looking at these free agents here, not those 152 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: two in particularly agree with everything you said on Matabik, 153 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: but the next big date is we're looking at some 154 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: of these other free agents, is February nineteenth, which is 155 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: next Monday, and that's where the years for guys who 156 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: have void years on a contract basically those get voided 157 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: if a new contract is not reached by Monday. February 158 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: nineteenth is the deadline. And the players who fall into 159 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: that category it's Kevin Zeitler, Nelson, Aguilar, Genostone, Gus Edwards, 160 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: and Rocketsine. So basically, if they don't work out a deal, 161 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: then you got to carry their dead money next year. 162 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: So essentially Monday is the deadline to work out a 163 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: deal with those any of those guys if you want 164 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: to have them here next year. It's not technically you 165 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: could still pass that deadline and then sign them, but 166 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: then you're paying for their deadliney and then you're also 167 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: then paying for the new contract. So from an accounting standpoint, 168 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: it makes sense to get that deal done prior to. 169 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: Monday, certainly, and those guys are Yeah. 170 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: That's the Zeitler Aguilar, Geno, Gus Edwards, Rocketscene. Let's start 171 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: with Zeitler because to me, he is the most likely. 172 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: If I look at all these free agents, I'm like, 173 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: who's back. Zeitler to me just feels like he's at 174 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: the top of that list. He was a pro bowler 175 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: this year. They've already had conversations with him about extending 176 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: that contract. He basically sounded at locker clean out day like, 177 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: let's just go on these papers right now and get 178 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: the deal done. I think he wants to be here, 179 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: the Ravens want him here. It just seems like that's 180 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: gonna work out. 181 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: I would agree there's not a natural right guard replacement. 182 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: That would probably be Ben Cleveland, but I think you 183 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: offensive line and upgrading the offensive line is a priority 184 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: this offseason, and part of that is keeping the pro 185 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: bowler who has been mister reliable on that offensive line. 186 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally so. In terms of the other guys in 187 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: that group. I mean, I could see the Ravens extending Agalar. 188 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: I think he was a really good fit. It was 189 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: a one year deal. I liked him from a leadership standpoint. 190 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: I liked him from a production stam with the standpoint, 191 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: thought he played well. I don't expect that it would 192 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: it would be a big, big, expensive deal. I think 193 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: it could work out for most. He liked it here 194 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: the Ravens. I think we're probably pretty pleased with what 195 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: he offered. 196 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're going to talk about the receivers, but 197 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: there's questions in the receiver group, so you know, I 198 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: think that having him there, it's kind of like last year, 199 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: Like the Ravens signed him last year and it was like, okay, 200 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: lots of questions here, still lots of unfold but if 201 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: nothing else, you know, you got Aglar in place. And 202 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: I could see a similar situation this year. Gino Stone, 203 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 2: I would love to bring him back, but I also 204 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: think that he could fall into a category of a 205 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: guy who may have priced himself out. 206 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: I think Gina is going to test the market. I 207 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: think that Gina is going to see what's out there 208 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: for him and whether other teams view him as their 209 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: starter that they want to plug. 210 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: And play led the AFC and interceptions this year. 211 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: And so when you have a career year, generally speaking, 212 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: you want to test the market, especially when coming back 213 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: to and he loves the Ravens, he loves Baltimore, but 214 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: he's not a projected starter here next year, you know, 215 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: Marcus Williams and Kyle Hamilton are. He would still play 216 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: a big role just as he did this year, but 217 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: he probably wants to be a seventeen game starter, plug 218 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: and play guy. And uh, and I think he's going 219 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: to test the. 220 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: Market, all right. So the next guy on that on 221 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: that list is Gus This kind of is a larger 222 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: conversation to me about running back. The running backs who 223 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 2: are in place for next year is Justice Hill and 224 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: Keith Mitchell. Keith Mitchell's coming off of torn ACL so 225 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: who knows exactly when he's ready to roll at full speed? 226 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that you can. 227 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: You cannot put all your eggs in the Keaton Mitchell 228 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: basket and expect him to be If he had stayed 229 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: healthy all year, he might have been RB one going 230 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: into the next season. I don't think that you can 231 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: put him in that position going into the next year. 232 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: He whatever you get from Keaton Mitchell, I think is 233 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: a bonus. 234 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 3: And he might it might be a lot. He might 235 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: be great. 236 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: But just banking on a guy coming off a serious 237 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: knee injury I think is risky. 238 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: Well, and then so Gus Edwards JK. Dobbins both free agents, right, 239 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 2: and you know, Gus has been a steady eddy mister, 240 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: reliable for this team since he was signed here as 241 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: an un drafted free agent. I don't know if either 242 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 2: of those guys are back. I mean I think that 243 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 2: they it's what is your take on what happens with 244 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: the running back group? Like, I don't know that Gus 245 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: is necessarily back JK. Obviously he's coming off the injury. 246 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: I think that he may be looking for a fresh 247 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: start and looking to go somewhere else and you know, 248 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: get a kind of a fresh start to his career Gus, 249 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: you know, if it works out for him to come back, 250 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: but he's a little bit of a tough, tougher one 251 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 2: to pay. How that plays out to me. 252 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: I would agree. 253 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: I think that the Ravens know what Gus Edwards offers. 254 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: I think it'll come down the price. Does the rest 255 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: of the league really see. I mean, this is the 256 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: guy that's now had a knee injury in his career. 257 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: There's a fair amount of tread on those tires. I 258 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: don't expect the market to be particularly robust for Gus Edwards, 259 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: probably even though he has been steadily good over his career. 260 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: That's just what it is for free agent running backs. 261 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: It's not It hasn't been a very fruitful environment place 262 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: to be, so I think that's probably a scenario where 263 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: you wait and see what happens. I don't expect that 264 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: Gus Edwards probably would sign a deal in the first 265 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: few days of free agency. He'd probably be out there 266 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: for a little bit and if depending on what happens 267 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: in the draft, what else happens in free agency, maybe 268 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: it works out down the line. 269 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 3: That's probably what I'll expect with Gus. 270 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: And then for receivers, we mentioned neils An aagular, but 271 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 2: the Ravens still have other questions. 272 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: Just sorry. 273 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: The other thing could be I don't know what the 274 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: void year hit would be on Gus. If they could 275 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: work out a really friendly deal before that happens to 276 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: not have the void hit, maybe I could see that, 277 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, and Gus says, you know what, I've seen 278 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: the free agency market running back. I don't really particularly 279 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: want to be on it, and so if the Ravens 280 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: offer me a deal, I'm gonna take it. 281 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. They dead money if they don't work out a deal. 282 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: Is one point eighty four on. 283 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: Gus, so that's not nothing. Yeah, almost two mil. 284 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and on Zeitler. When you're tight on Zeitler to 285 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: speak to that, it's four point three, which also that 286 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: leads That's part of the reason why I feel like 287 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: the Exightler deal is gonna. 288 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: Get I could see a Gus one year, one year deal, 289 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: maybe a two year Yeah, before he hits the market. 290 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: If I'm Gus and the Ravens come and say we're 291 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: interested in to bring you back, I'm listening. 292 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I do think that big picture, I do think 293 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: the Ravens will add new running backs to this group 294 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: for sure. I think, even regardless of what happens with Gus, 295 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: I do think that they will add some new running 296 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: backs to this mix. Because Keaton is a question mark 297 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: coming back from the injury, you're probably gonna lose JK. 298 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: So whether that's free agency or the draft, I think 299 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 2: the Ravens will add to the running back group this year. 300 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 2: I agree, all right, so receiver, we mentioned Nelson Aguilar, 301 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: but Odell Beckham Junior is not technically a free agent, 302 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 2: but based on the way his contract is structured, he 303 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: essentially is a free agent this year. He sounded at 304 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: the end of the season like he likely is gone. 305 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: Like it did not sound to me. 306 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 3: When he was asked about returning to the Ravens. 307 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: He basically said, how do I say this politically correct? 308 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: Right? 309 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: Whenever you're bringing out the PC song, it's generally not 310 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: a sign. 311 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: Now, that's no shade on anybody. 312 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: I think that Odell really liked it here with the 313 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: Ravens and enjoyed his year here. I think he probably 314 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: envisioned bigger production, more production. That's what he wants, right. 315 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: Whether he's going to do that here or elsewhere, it 316 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: remains to be seen. I don't know at this point 317 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: in his career whether you know, I don't know that 318 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: he's ever going to be a one thousand yard receiver 319 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: again for any team, but I think he probably wants 320 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: to find out. 321 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think Odell was you know, I 322 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: know there's been a lot to talk about that contract 323 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: because it was a big number. I thought that he 324 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: was certainly worth that contract when you bring all the 325 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: things into play of what he added to the team 326 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: this year. I mean, it was such expensive contract, but 327 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: I thought that he was somebody who was a great 328 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: fit in the locker room, wellcked by his seatmates, thought 329 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: he elevated this team. 330 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: Most importantly, well liked by Lamar Jackson before he signed 331 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: his contract extensions. 332 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he was worth it. But I also 333 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: he Odell is somebody who could wait it out. You know. 334 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: I think that there's a few guys on this scene 335 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: from a free agency standpoint, him being one of them 336 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: who could wait and see how things play out. He 337 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 2: could wait a while and make a decision as he 338 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: wants to play next year. But I so, you know, 339 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: then you have Zay Flowers and Rashad Bateman. Ravens made 340 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: it clear that they expect, you know, RuSHA Bateman to 341 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: take another step this year. 342 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: That's a good combination right there. 343 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 344 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: I think with Bateman, the important thing is he's coming 345 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: off a year where he was fully healthy the whole year, 346 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: and that is really important because you go back to 347 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: last year similar to the Keaton Mitchell situation. I think 348 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: the Ravens couldn't really put all their eggs in that 349 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: basket because of the injury history and you weren't sure 350 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: how he was going to be coming off the foot 351 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: surgery and all that. Now, I think you can realistically 352 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: count on more from Rashad Bateman because he's in a 353 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: good place with his health. 354 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that the expectation is that he's 355 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: gonna take a big step. I mean, this is the 356 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: guy that Ravens drafted in the first round. Right. They 357 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: will have to make a decision this offseason about his 358 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: fifth year option, which you know, they could decide not 359 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: to pick that up, and then he would be going 360 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: into a contract year and this could be a basically 361 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: improved year. 362 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: I expect probably a Patrick Queen kind of a year 363 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: for him. 364 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're saying prove it, it's a prove it fourth year. Well, 365 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: I was gonna say. I was gonna say output. 366 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: Wise that would be fantastic too. 367 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 368 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: I think that he's going to probably have a you know, 369 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: year four, probably hit free agency after that. 370 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: Russhod is going to know that it's a huge year 371 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: for him. He can cash in big time. 372 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: With a big season, just like PQ is going to do. 373 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: That's the route I probably expect this to go. 374 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think there will be also some new 375 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: blood in the receiver room. I don't know if that 376 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: is through free agency or the draft or both, but 377 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: I do think that there will be. 378 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: This There's definitely going to be new blood from the draft. 379 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: They're going to draft ersta point Eric's. 380 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: Acosta has shown during his time as general manager. He's 381 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: just going to keep restocking that round. I don't the 382 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: draft primarily. 383 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: To do that. 384 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: I don't expect that. 385 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: It's probably going to be free agency that they're going 386 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: to be active in the wide receiver free agent market. 387 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: That's a very rich markets being the Ravens don't have 388 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: a lot of money. They have these young players. You know, 389 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: Devin Dubernet is another question mark. Do they bring him back? 390 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: He's a free agent. 391 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: He's a free agent exactly. You know, they could wait 392 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: and see on that. Probably he's not probably a player 393 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: that gets scooped up immediately. 394 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: I think that. 395 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: And if they bring back Nelson Aguilor, they're already in 396 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: a pretty good position with three wide receivers. Zey Bateman, Aguilore, 397 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: that they can count on reasonably, and then add to 398 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: that mix with maybe a free agent down the line, 399 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: down the line in the middle of the summer that 400 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: you add or before training camp, but mostly. 401 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: I think some young blood, another rookie. 402 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So the other free agents to hit 403 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 2: on here, it's the Vets and this is these are 404 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: the guys who the Ravens side late in the process 405 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: last year to Davion Clowney, Kyle van Noy, and I 406 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 2: would even put Ronald Darby in that mix. He didn't 407 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: have quite the breakout or big time seasons. Those guys 408 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: played a really important role on this team Ravens side. 409 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 2: All three of them late had really good seasons. Do 410 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: you think any of them are back this year? Do 411 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: you think? My take, real quick on it is that 412 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: the most likely one to me who's back is Clowney 413 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: Like he sounded to me like a guy who would 414 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: love to find a way to stay here. He's done 415 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 2: all these one year deals in his career, like would 416 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: have surprised me. If the Raves worked out another one 417 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: year deal with him, would not surprise me. I also 418 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 2: think think that for all of them, the timeline could 419 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 2: it could wait. I don't know that any of them 420 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: are going to be signed before the new league year open. 421 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: So think that has not been Clowney's mo. Yeah, I'll 422 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: be really interested to see what the market is for 423 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: those guys. Obviously they had massive seasons, Clowning with nine 424 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: and a half sacks and van Noy with nine. But 425 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: these are guy veterans that the league had pretty much 426 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: kind of decided they might be done, you know. 427 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 3: Or close to it. They proved otherwise. 428 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: Yep. Now is the league buying that? Are they buying 429 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: the resurgenc season from them? Or are they still questioning it? 430 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: That's the question. Yeah, I'm interested in bringing those guys 431 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: back at the right price, but they might They probably 432 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: will feel like they deserve a pretty nice payday after 433 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: the years they had, so I expect that they probably 434 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: get to the market, get to market, both sides see 435 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: what they come in at, and they keep in touch, 436 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: and if the Ravens can make it work and offer 437 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: what the other teams or close to at least what 438 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: other teams are offering, then I think they're Ravens will 439 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: be interested. 440 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be somewhat similar to how things 441 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: played out with Justin Houston in past years. Like the Ravens, 442 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: he was on the team three years ago, then went 443 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 2: into the offseason and then they basically was the feel 444 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: it out process and he made the decision to come back. 445 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 2: Ravens resigned him, you know. Last year he ended up 446 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: signing late in the process too, obviously went to Carolina initially. 447 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: But I think it could be similar with these guys. 448 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: These are veteran players who have been on the market. 449 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 2: They've tested free agency, they've sat out there, they've done 450 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: all that. So I don't know that it's going to 451 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: get done right away, and I don't know that it 452 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 2: has to either. Wasn't it Van Noy who joked after 453 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 2: he got signed, who needs training camp? You know? And 454 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: he had a big game. So like, I don't know. 455 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 3: So how do you think they feel about OTAs? 456 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, like I feel like they are confident in 457 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: waiting it out, but also if they feel like they 458 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: get a deal from the Ravens or from another team 459 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: that they're like, man, this is too good deal to 460 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 2: pass up, they would sign it. 461 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. 462 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't expect that that's probably coming. Yeah, I don't 463 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: think that somebody's gonna come in with two year twenty 464 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: mil you know for those guys, yeah. 465 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: I think get My projection is that they probably waited out. Yeah, 466 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 2: and maybe one of them ends up back here. Darby's 467 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 2: an interesting one. We don't talk about him much at all, 468 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: but like Darby played a really important role for the 469 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: team this year for sure. Humphrey basically on the shelf 470 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 2: for a good portion of the season. 471 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: The cornerback question is an important one because you still 472 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: are You're in a similar position to what you were 473 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: last year, where you had these two young players that 474 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: you really like in Jalen Armor Davis and Pebbe Williams 475 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: that you like two fourth round picks, but because of injuries, 476 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: you just haven't seen a whole lot of them. You 477 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: saw more of Jalen Armor Davis, and I thought he 478 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: played well at points this season. But you still can't 479 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: really go into twenty twenty four saying, yeah, you know, 480 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm definitely sure that guy's my number three you love. 481 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: I mean, whenever the cornerback conversation starts, you immediately go 482 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 2: the number three corner. That's right. 483 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not even saying the slot corner. 484 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, beyond your two starters. This would 485 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: be the next goal. Like if Marlon orged Brandon Stevens 486 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: went we're injured, Yeah, you have confidence confidence. 487 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 3: That that guy can stip it. 488 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: I think the thing with a cornerback just slot corner conversation. 489 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: I believe that honestly. 490 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: I think the question with the cornerback is you got 491 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: to make sure that Marlon Marlin Humphrey is healthy after 492 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: kind of an injury riddled season. And I think that 493 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 2: that's going to be his focus in the Ravens focus 494 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: to making sure that he's healthy and ready to go. 495 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a big year for Marlin. I mean, 496 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: this is one of the team's highest paid guys. Yeah, 497 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: and it was a rough twenty twenty three campaign for him. 498 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: He it's a it's a prove it, big time, prove 499 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: it year for him to come back and show he 500 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: can still be that elite guy. 501 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: So we mentioned briefly for Sybateman in the fifth year 502 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: option decision, but he's not the only one that Ravens 503 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 2: have to make that decision on. There's also also a 504 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: Dafe oh Way. So they Raveles had two first round 505 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: picks as season, so they have to make that decision 506 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 2: on both those guys. How do you see that plane out? 507 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 2: And also do you have the numbers on those two guys. 508 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, the deadline for that decision is May second, And 509 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: according to overthecap dot Com, Rasha Bateman's would be thirteen 510 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: point eight million dollars for that's not twenty twenty four, 511 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty five. 512 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: That would be a salary cap hit. 513 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: And then Erdafi always would be twelve point two million 514 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: dollars for twenty twenty five. I think o'dafes is a 515 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: tougher decision. You know, outside linebacker. It's not a it's 516 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: not a crazy dollar figure for an outside linebacker. He's 517 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: a guy that's is sending. He's coming off his best 518 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: season this year. 519 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 2: It's tough. 520 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if you view him as as a guy 521 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: a young player, I mean, according to Pro Football Focus, 522 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: he was the Ravens' most improved player last year. Yeah, 523 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: this season in twenty twenty three, and so if you 524 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: see him as as really a sending player and he's 525 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: this is a double digit sack guy, twelve point two 526 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: is not a bad number for twenty twenty five. Yeah, 527 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: And so that's that's a little bit of a more 528 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: difficult decision. 529 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: In my mind, it's kind of like you know with 530 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: Patrick Queen there even has had a tough decision a 531 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: year ago about whether now not the exact same circumstance. 532 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: But you know, then Queen has a huge season, the 533 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 2: price just only goes up right, oh way, as a 534 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: pass rusher if you decide not to put the tag 535 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 2: on him or not to put the fifth year option 536 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: on him, then he goes out there and has a 537 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 2: monster season. Well, well now he may have priced himself 538 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: out potentially. 539 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: And you can make the same case for Rashat Bateman 540 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: r right, I mean at thirteen to eight, Odell Beckham 541 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: just was one year fifteen, Yeah, now thatll if Bateman 542 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: goes out and has a big year, he could get 543 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: more than that. 544 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 2: Both you're always you're always dealing with the risk reward 545 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 2: on all. 546 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: Of that, right, adaphe, either of them are a slam 547 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: dunk for sure in either direction. 548 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, a daphe. 549 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: You know he's deuble. 550 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 2: Some injuries, you know, kind of similar story for both 551 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 2: these guys. 552 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, not season ending. 553 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: Not major, but nagging Yes, yes, that's correct, and that 554 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: have limited his production and it's there's been times where 555 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: it feels like, all men, this guy is turning a 556 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 2: corner and he's he's going to make all these plays 557 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: and you're starting to see it. And then the light 558 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 2: turned on or whatever phrase you want to use, and 559 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: then he's been set back by some injuries. I agree 560 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: with you. I think it's a tougher decision. I don't 561 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 2: know which way the Ravens go on that. Yeah. 562 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: I also difficulty projecting that, Yeah, because you also factor 563 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: in David Ajabo, who now back to back years you know, 564 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: season ending injuries really well, I mean his rookie year, 565 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: he's starting injury, he was starting in the season and 566 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: and so if you don't extend the fifth year option 567 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: to Odafe, I mean you could be starting over, not 568 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: starting over in twenty twenty five, David a Jabo will 569 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: be going into the final year of his four year deal. 570 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: But you're you're getting thinner there. Yeah, Really, you need 571 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: to start drafting some outside linebackers high and and often. 572 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: And we're gonna talk about drafts and all. So yeah, 573 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: and so you start talking about all this stuff, it's 574 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: like you only you can only address so many positions 575 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: in the draft and a free agency, especially when we're 576 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 2: talking about expensive positions like outside linebacker and receiver. Those 577 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 2: are typically expensive positions, especially in free agency. The ideal 578 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: scenario is that you draft, develop, and then keep those guys. 579 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 2: That's the best case scenario, and so you know that. 580 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: I think all of that is going to factor into 581 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: the decision on whether the Ravens ultimately determined to extend 582 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 2: that fifth year option to Oway. So we're going to 583 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 2: take a quick break. When we come back, we'll look 584 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: at some other elements of free agency and also look 585 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,719 Speaker 2: ahead to the draft and how the Ravens could plan 586 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 2: to attack both the draft and free agency. We'll be 587 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 2: right back. You're listening to the last podcast. 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For help, visit MD 598 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: gambling dot org or call one eight hundred gambler. So 599 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: in terms of some of the deadlines are the key 600 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 2: dates over the course of the next couple of months. Here, 601 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 2: February twentieth is the first date that you can apply 602 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: that franchise SAT. You have from the twentieth of February 603 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: until March fifth. So that's where you can decide whether 604 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: you're going to tag guys. If using justin Madabique as 605 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: the example, if the Ravens determined he's going to be 606 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: here next year one way or another, they have to 607 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: put the tag on him by by March fifth, or 608 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: then they have to work out that long term extension 609 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: before free agency opens, which is the next date. Free 610 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: agency officially opens on March eleventh, So that's when, well 611 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 2: that's when the legal tampre period agains is March eleventh. 612 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: So you know, those are the next kind of key dates. 613 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: And you would think, you know the other piece of 614 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: this process that always unfolds is that you go through 615 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: a process of salary cap maneuvering salary cap cuts, and 616 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: that happens typically before free agency opens. 617 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: As you mentioned, the Ravens are projected to have only 618 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: about three million in salary cap space. And that's before 619 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: you talk about bringing back a guy like Matta Bka 620 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: and or these other players. Yeah, bringing back of Zeitler, 621 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: Aglar whoever you're going to bring back that we already 622 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: talked about. 623 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, So in order to do that, you probably got 624 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: to trim some of that salary cap and so then 625 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: you have to cut, you know, cut guys or RUSS contracts, 626 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 2: whether that's extensions or salary cap cuts, pay cuts. There's 627 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: a variety of different ways that you can approach it. 628 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: But you know, every year you have to go through 629 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 2: this process of looking at potential salary cap cuts. 630 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: That's correct, and so the Ravens don't when you go 631 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: down the list, they don't have a lot of logical 632 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: candidates where you say, oh, yeah, that that's definitely happening 633 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: some of that, but not much this year. I think 634 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: some of their bigger decisions are quite honestly going to 635 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: have to are going to be on Ronnie Stanley. That's 636 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: one of the biggest decisions I think they have to make. 637 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: This offseason, and that's a tough one. Here's a player 638 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: who's been an All Pro over his career, but by 639 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: his own admission, did not have his best season this 640 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: past year. Obviously, injuries have been a major part of 641 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: his story in recent in the past three years after 642 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: the major ankle injury, came all the way back from that, 643 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: then set out the following year as well, came back 644 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: this year and a couple of knee injuries and that 645 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: he dealt with throughout the season, and he just hasn't 646 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: played to the level that he was at before he 647 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: signed the extension. 648 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 3: That's just what it's been. 649 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: And so the Ravens have to make really the decision 650 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: by March thirteenth, that's when the I'm sorry. By March eighteenth, 651 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: that's the fifth day of the new league year, and 652 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: contract triggers, like basically bonuses would trigger on that date 653 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: by four pm. And one of those would be a 654 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: big one for Ronnie Stanley. So basically, if he's still 655 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: on the team by March eighteenth, then he's going to 656 00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: be on the team. 657 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, they would. 658 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: They would have to decide whether they're they're ready to 659 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: move on and take a salary cap benefit. If if 660 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: the Ravens were to release Ronnie Stanley before that date, 661 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: they could save eight point three million dollars. Again, I 662 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna that's a decision they have to make. 663 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: That's a that's a tough one on Ronnie because you 664 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: look at it, who's your left tackle? Yeah, you know 665 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: Patrick McCarry, You know, he's His value has really been 666 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: in being that sixth lineman who can slide in at 667 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: either tackle spot, uh or really anywhere on the offensive line. 668 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: That's valuable. 669 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: Keeping him in that in that role, you'd have to 670 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: draft somebody, most likely high, or spend a fair amount 671 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: of money in free agency to bring back another veteran. 672 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: Are you going to spend more than eight million dollars? 673 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: You know, if that's starting if it's a starting left tackle, 674 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 2: you probably are. Unless you're basically trying to go the 675 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: route like you did with a Clowney or a van Noy, 676 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 2: and you kind of strike gold and you say, I'm 677 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: gonna take this chance and get a veteran player the 678 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: league is kind of cast aside and hopefully turn ville INNEWAIVO. Yeah, 679 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: it went the other direction, right, So there's risk on 680 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 2: that when you make go that route exactly. 681 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you have a young tackle in Daniel foul Leley, 682 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: but he's been really more of a right tackle you have. 683 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: That's more of a decision with Morgan, Moses and foule 684 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: Lele whether you feel like he's ready at that position. 685 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: So there's not there's not a left tackle waiting in 686 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: the wings, and left tackles are expensive to our point, 687 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: and so it's a difficult decision for the Ravens in 688 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: that regard. Yeah, that that could be one where you know, 689 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: we talk about pay cuts and adjustments, that could be 690 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: one where they look at a different way to adjust 691 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: that contract. 692 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. And so I mean March eighteenth is the 693 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: is that basically the deadline for that. But I would 694 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: expect for really these moves if there are salary cap 695 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: cuts to happen prior to the start of free agency. 696 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't that I would agree you want to know 697 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: what you have at the start of free agency, But 698 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't think that the Ravens they are in a 699 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: position where they're going to be making moves in the 700 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 1: first one or two days of free agency. 701 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 3: Let's just dive right into that right now. Yeah, they 702 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 3: they just don't. I mean, the fact of the. 703 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: Matter is set Lamar Jackson's salary cap hit jumps from 704 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three it was twenty two point one 705 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: million dollars, it jumps to thirty two point four. 706 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 707 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: Okay, so there's eleven million dollars that you don't have 708 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: that you had the luxury of spending this past offseason. 709 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: Right when you talk about braining guys like Clowney van Ney, 710 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: I mean add them up of different players they brought 711 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: in for eleven million dollars, probably a lot. 712 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 3: That's out the window. And so. 713 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: The Ravens do not you know, you talk about bringing 714 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: in Odell Beckham Junior for one year fifteen, you know, 715 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: I don't see that happening this year. 716 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they just don't have the space. 717 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: And so sure, you'd like to know what you have 718 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: going into free agency, but I expect the free agency 719 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: free agent moves that the Ravens are going to make 720 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: are going to be in the second, third, fourth, fifth 721 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: wave of free agency where they Hey, that's when they 722 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: got Clowny, That's when they got van Ney was midway 723 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: part way through the season, right like they Eric Dacasa. 724 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 3: Has done really well surfing those. 725 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,479 Speaker 1: Waves of free agency. The maybe we should call them 726 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: the ripples, the free agency ripples, and so I expect 727 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: that that's where the Ravens are gonna have to make 728 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: hey again this year. 729 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think where I look at free agency, I 730 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: think the area where the Ravens and my mind will 731 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: most likely look to address. And I don't know what 732 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 2: wave it comes in on, but I think the offensive 733 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: line is going to be a real point of emphasis 734 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: for the team. You talked about Ronnie Stanley. You know, 735 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: I looked it up using the Chiefs as the example. 736 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: You know, they redid their offensive line, their tackle positions 737 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: this offseason. They signed Jawan Taylor as a right tackle 738 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 2: and he got a big deal, four year, eighty million 739 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: dollar contract. On the left side, they had Donovan Smith 740 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: who was a one year, three million dollar contract, so 741 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: value signing on the left side. Now, not to say 742 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: those tackles were perfect, but just using them as an 743 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: I do think that the Ravens will look to try 744 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: to find ways to upgrade the offensive line. I think 745 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 2: it's it's really hard to do that at left tackle 746 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: position in free agency because top tier left tackles don't 747 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 2: hit the market a ton, and when they do, they 748 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: go for major dollars. And so that's the challenge of 749 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: trying to address it in free agency. But I do 750 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 2: think that the Ravens will be able to find a 751 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 2: vet or two to come in like they've done that. 752 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 3: I mean questions which is by left guard. They could 753 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 3: try it at left guard, they could bring in Simpsons 754 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: a free agent. 755 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 2: Depending on what they decide. At left tackle, they could 756 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: try to bring in a Donovan Smith type player. Again, 757 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: risk reward there, and you run the risk of getting 758 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 2: somebody who doesn't pan out, or you can get somebody 759 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: that turns out to be a home run like you 760 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: did with van Ney. So I think that there's there 761 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 2: could be there's two sides to that coin. Yep. So yeah, 762 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: I think left You know, they also have a decision 763 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 2: to make it right tackle too. I think Morgan Moses, 764 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: you know, he dealt with an injury this year. 765 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: Generally been a very reliable player, a good player, good players. 766 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: That was a great signing for them. 767 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 2: It's been a great signing. And so are you going 768 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 2: to find better on the market. I don't know that 769 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 2: you are. I think that if you were to move 770 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: on there. I think that fall lele would be the 771 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 2: guy that you probably just say he's most likely going 772 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: to be our starting right now. 773 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: Part of this is how do the Ravens feel about 774 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: some of their young offensive linemen that they've been developing. 775 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: We've talked about how they do such a good job 776 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: developing offensive lineman. Well, so do those guys get a 777 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: chance or do you go out and try to spend 778 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, to find a veteran at that position. You know, 779 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: you have a guy like Sala who we're all really 780 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: excited about last summer at the chance that he might 781 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, be the starting left guard as a sixth 782 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: round rookie. You know, it didn't end up painting out, 783 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: but you know this is a developmental good prospect. 784 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 785 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 1: You know you have fall Ley Lea who we already 786 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: talked about, benk Cleveland who's now has more experience under 787 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: his belt and has played you know, reasonably pretty well 788 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: when he's gotten in there. 789 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 3: So what do you see? I tend to agree with 790 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 3: you that, like. 791 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: As wide receiver was the position last year where they 792 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: said we're going to invest a wide receiver and really 793 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: up bury that unit. That's where we felt like we 794 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: were lacking. It feels to me like the offensive line 795 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: was an issue for the offense last year. That was 796 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: really I think the thing that was holding it back. 797 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: And so if they're going to be aggressive in addressing 798 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: any position group, to me, I agree, that would probably 799 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: be the one. The other one that I think they'll 800 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: be in the free agency market in is running back. 801 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was gonna say. I think I 802 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 2: think it's offensive line and running back. And John Simpson, 803 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 2: by the way, the left guard, he is a free agent. 804 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: This office said, yeah, so, so you know, it's not 805 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: like you have a position to fill it left guard, right, 806 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: but you could Tala or a veteran like I think 807 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: if there's a Kevin Zeitler out there at left guard 808 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: in free agency, the Ravens would be all years and 809 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: you could. 810 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: Try to bring back Simpson and that's an option, but 811 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: you could try to get the Kevin Zeitler, whoever that 812 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: Kevin Zeitler player is this year. 813 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 3: I'm with you exactly. Running back is the other interesting one. 814 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: You know, there were plenty there's plenty of buzz that 815 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens were interested in some of these or one 816 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: in particular, running back at the trade deadline and being 817 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: that rumored guy, Derrick Henry. He's going to be a 818 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: free agent. There's going to be other free agent running backs. 819 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: We didn't even mention Dalvin Dalvin Cook crad he was 820 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: on the team at the end of the year. 821 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 3: Is that a position? 822 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: You know, Sakuon Barkley is a guy who could hit 823 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: the market. Uh, now, he would be very expensive. 824 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 2: He just finished saying that Ravens aren't making any moves. 825 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: So the first week fre. 826 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 3: Agency running back is running back Barkley would be away. 827 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 3: Saon Barkley's not happening. Okay. I love Saquon Barkley. 828 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: I to be awesome. He's leader player all that. I'm 829 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: sorry Ravens fans, but don't count on it. That is 830 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: too rich for the Ravens blood. I think now Derrick Henry, Like, 831 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: what what's the market for Derrick Henry? You know, like, 832 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: this is a veteran running back. He's taking a lot 833 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: of hits. He's still been productive, but he's been you know, 834 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: veteran running back to the As you've said, the market 835 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: has not been friendly to them. 836 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 3: Where's his number come in at. 837 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 2: The market hasn't been friendly to running backs in general. 838 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 2: I mean, that was the that was the huge talking 839 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 2: point around the NFL dot Mincook at the center of 840 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 2: that conversation, certainly, and this was a guy who was 841 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 2: a thousand year rusher for I think four or five 842 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 2: straight years and then you know, as up signing a 843 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 2: short term deal and then then at the end of 844 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 2: the year ends up on the Ravens. So I think 845 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 2: that predicting the running back market is next to impossible, exactly. 846 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 2: I think that it's it's probably not very favorable for 847 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:33,959 Speaker 2: the backs. 848 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: That's just one where my point is if that market 849 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: is depressed as it was last offseason, I do think 850 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: that's a position where maybe it comes down to the 851 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: Ravens price level and is an area where they look 852 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: to add, especially if they weren't to bring back Gus Edwards, 853 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: that they add a veteran and you probably draft a 854 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: running back at some point during the draft. 855 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 3: You don't have to because you have Keaton, Yeah, but 856 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 3: you could. 857 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 2: And all right, So in terms of the draft, as 858 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 2: we look ahead to that piece, you know, I think 859 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 2: that where where I really expect the Ravens to look 860 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 2: at opportunities within the draft is at some of those 861 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 2: pricey positions. So we mentioned receiver. I think that they 862 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,919 Speaker 2: will draft a receiver at some point. If you're looking 863 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 2: to add tackles, a tackle, offensive tackle to this line, 864 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 2: whether it's a left tackle or a right tackle, or 865 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 2: maybe somebody who has the ability to do both. I 866 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 2: think that that is a likely option in this draft. 867 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: Now, it's hard outside linebacker to me, talking about fIF 868 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: your option and they have a JABO and you need 869 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: to know you need more developmental guys there too. 870 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it could be defensive. 871 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 2: Line, some premium positions in the draft. 872 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,479 Speaker 3: I mean defensive line. 873 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: If Mattabique, if you weren't to come back, you certainly 874 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: need that defensive end. 875 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 2: You know, I. 876 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: Would have a hard time seeing a first round wide receiver, 877 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: but never counted out. You know, Eric Deacasa has done 878 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: it now three times, first round wide receiver, and he's 879 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: determined to keep that room talented. But to me, there's 880 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 1: some pretty big needs on the defensive side of the ball. 881 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 3: Cornerback. 882 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we were all talking about the possibility of 883 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 1: a first round corner last off season. Now Brandon Stevens 884 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: stepped up. Brand Stevens, by the way, is a guy. 885 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: Could you reach an extension with him. It's not going 886 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: to help you save a whole lot of money, if 887 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: any might cost you a little bit more. But you 888 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 1: talk about players, it would be nice to know you 889 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: have moving forward brand. Stevens would be high on my list. Yeah, 890 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: now that could happen at any time. Yes, it doesn't 891 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: have to happen. 892 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 2: He's going into his fourth and final year of his contract, right, 893 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 2: but he would be a candidate totally. 894 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: And so. 895 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: You know, cornerback was a position that we talked a 896 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: lot about as being a potential first round pick last year. 897 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: So Marlon Humphrey, now one year older, have injury issues. 898 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: That's another you need more young depth there too. That's 899 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: another position I think will be high in the pecking 900 00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: order potentially for the draft. 901 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 2: So in the first round of the draft, Ravens will 902 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 2: taking a corner, tackle, receiver, pass pressure. 903 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 3: Yep, yep, you got it all four, You nailed it. 904 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 3: See Ericcott loves yeah when you go again. 905 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 2: So we will of course dive into the draft and 906 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 2: much more detail over the course of the next several 907 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 2: weeks and months. But this gives you an overview, This 908 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: gives you kind of a blueprint of what to expect 909 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 2: over the course of the next month leading into free agency, 910 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 2: It's going to be a busy time for the Ravens. 911 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 2: Let us know what you want to see happened. Send 912 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 2: us your emails to the Lounge at Ravens dot NFL 913 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 2: dot net. 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