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Speaker 1: We're here to break it all down.

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Speaker 1: God, this is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff, presented

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Speaker 1: FSR betting analyst Jared Smith.

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Speaker 3: Oh what is going on? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome in here as we get you all set for

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Speaker 2: Championship Sunday tomorrow and all other good stuff that we

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Speaker 2: can shoehorn into this broadcast. You know, I'm not even

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Speaker 2: on the zoom chat just yet, guys, because I don't

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Speaker 2: want you to see me shed crocodile tears. Over here

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Speaker 2: is the Irish come oh so close to winning it

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Speaker 2: all and then come up short. Now now some might

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Speaker 2: listen to this and they're like, what is this a

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Speaker 2: freaking guy talking about? They were down thirty one seven?

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Speaker 2: Come come close, guys, Do we realize how close this was?

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Speaker 2: After it's really close a cover too. Oh gosh, that's

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Speaker 2: another story too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But after thirty six long years, the Irish the planets

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Speaker 2: aligned and Notre Dame found itself in a national championship

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Speaker 2: game and they were down by one score in the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter and it was not to be.

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Speaker 3: That's that's rough right there.

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Speaker 2: I hate to be the bearer of bad news to

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Speaker 2: it get it.

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Speaker 4: It's it rougher, you think, like surviving whatever gauntlet they

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Speaker 4: harder if you only got two bites out at the

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Speaker 4: apple on done? Essentially, what I mean is since expansion,

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Speaker 4: you know, and the route that Notre Dame took, does

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Speaker 4: it feel any sweeter knowing that they had a larger

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Speaker 4: field to contend with just making it there?

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Speaker 3: Or are there no moral victories?

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Speaker 2: I hear you, Yeah, it was. It's great that they

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Speaker 2: got there. The future is bright, you know, Marcus Freeman

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Speaker 2: building a real program. So I hear you're rich, But

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Speaker 2: I think I think the long journey to almost get

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Speaker 2: there does make it more painful because right like, think

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Speaker 2: of all the things that had to align you could

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Speaker 2: play this game. Going back to the Georgia game, you know, is, hey,

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Speaker 2: what if Kirby Smart doesn't throw the ball with his

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Speaker 2: What if Notre Dame doesn't have a kickoff return for

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Speaker 2: a touchdown in that game? And then the whole Penn

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Speaker 2: State thing is what happens if Riley Leonard wasn't able

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Speaker 2: and they didn't kick a field goal before halftime? What

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Speaker 2: if your guy Abdul Carter recovers the fumble that he

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Speaker 2: fell right on time? All these what ifs and they

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Speaker 2: that's what makes it difficult too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it is a good point because football, I

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Speaker 4: mean literally, the football itself can bounce any direction you know,

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Speaker 4: and you don't you don't know, And it's so uh,

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Speaker 4: it's like, it's so funny how over my life playing football,

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Speaker 4: on so many variables to help you have success that

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Speaker 4: when you are a national champion, I mean, it means

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Speaker 4: so many things had to go so right for you.

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Speaker 4: And you could say, well, of course, so many things

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Speaker 4: You have to have health, which is you know, there's

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Speaker 4: For Notre Dame, it wasn't there night. For Ohio State

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Speaker 4: it was. And so you get back to the drawing board.

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Speaker 4: Because every single offseason, every team, whether you were the

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Speaker 4: one hundred and thirtieth team in college football or if

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Speaker 4: you were the number one team like Ohio State, you

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Speaker 4: gotta throw away the last season and start all over again.

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Speaker 5: If you were gonna go back in time, and like

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Speaker 5: before the game started, like time machine, some guy appears,

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Speaker 5: or me future Jared appears in your presence, and he says,

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Speaker 5: Notre Dame is gonna win the turnover battle tonight and

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Speaker 5: they're gonna hold Ohio State to one explosive passing play

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Speaker 5: the whole game, just one. Would you go back and

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Speaker 5: bet more on Notre Dame plus eight and a half?

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Speaker 5: I sure would, yeah, plus eight and a half.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I thought you to bet more on the money line.

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Speaker 5: I'd probably add a wager to the money line, but

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you again, And that's how it played out.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: Ohio State died dominated yards per play, They won the

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Speaker 5: on defense, They caused more havoc in the game, but

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Speaker 5: Notre Dame won the turnover battle and they won the

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Speaker 5: explosive play battle. They had seven explosive plays to Ohio

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Speaker 2: They held Ohio.

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Speaker 5: State's offense to four explosive plays in the entire game,

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Speaker 2: But that I think Notre Dame played.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they played almost the perfect game, Like they

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Speaker 5: Jeremiah Smith without a take the top off the defense

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Speaker 5: Dame fan, bright, I just I think you just got

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Speaker 5: move on because they I mean, you guys really did

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Speaker 3: That.

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Speaker 5: Upset with how the numbers played out here, but it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, last thing. And I appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is therapeutic for me. Got some stuff

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Speaker 2: it's like it was that first half.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame had that first drive, took ten minutes, poetic,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna drive, let's do it. That was a death march. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then the defense they just couldn't get a stop.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It was three straight touchdown drives for Ohio State long drives.

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Speaker 2: I thought the offense put the defense in a bad

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Speaker 2: holding penalty. It's second and twenty five. That drive is dead,

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Speaker 5: That was an uncharacteristic mistake. So is the penalty, the

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Speaker 5: those were two very uncharacteristic mistakes that Notre Dame made

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And the next thing, you know, you're always preaching

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Speaker 2: the middle eight, Jared, you had Ohio State, you know,

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Speaker 2: honest with you. When it was thirty one seven, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: are they gonna get boat raced like they did against

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Speaker 2: Bama in the Georgia? I was, I didn't get there,

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Speaker 2: but I was, that's boat when you look up boat

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Speaker 3: That's the one the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I had forty two to fourteen Bama vibes

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Speaker 2: just listen, if you're gonna go down, I'd rather go

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Speaker 2: down aggressively than cautiously. And to go for the field

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Speaker 2: goal was just like, guys, what, Oh? Yeah, I hate

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Speaker 2: it too. Yeah, I didn't know that decision.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a fan of pretty losses.

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Speaker 4: I understand why teams will do it, like because but

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Speaker 4: And you know what, I don't like pretty losses, as

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Speaker 4: I'd never have as a player. I didn't understand it

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Speaker 4: as a coach. I understand the mentality or the thought process.

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Speaker 4: But if you're not going for it, if you're not

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Speaker 4: It hurts my soul when I see it, and so

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, I agree with you, Brian, just be aggressive.

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Speaker 2: Did did Marcus explain that after that?

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Speaker 3: I don't remember that?

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Speaker 2: Explain he did? He did? He was, And listen, I

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Speaker 2: Third down, you try to hit great house for a

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Speaker 2: nothing on this drive? And we could cut it to

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Speaker 2: a thirteen point deficit instead of sixteen, where we don't

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Speaker 2: have to get two touchdowns to two point conversion. That's

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Speaker 2: tough to do, it is it is. It's tough to

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Speaker 2: do that. But man, it's also deflating to fight all

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Speaker 2: dot he couldn't have missed the one against Penn State.

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Speaker 4: I know he hadn't missed that one was Ainst State

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Speaker 2: No gosh, it's just it's insane. If you're on plus

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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley's rushing prop against Washington is one twenty five

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Speaker 3: But still one twenty five.

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Speaker 3: And Saquan we know what he does when he gets

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Speaker 4: He knows how to get what yards of play has

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Speaker 5: Like and don't get me wrong, one fifty against Washington

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Speaker 2: This week.

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Speaker 5: The Eagles up were up twenty seven to fourteen in

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Speaker 5: They would have won by two. They wouldn't have covered

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Speaker 5: Jayden Daniels had his heroics. But again twenty seven fourteen,

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Speaker 5: So there's definitely a path for him to go over

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Speaker 2: I just think there's better bets on the board this weekend. No,

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Speaker 2: that's fair, and man, I go back to I had

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Speaker 2: I had I think it was over ninety five and

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Speaker 2: And I was sweating bullets because they bottled Saquan up

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Speaker 2: throughout most of that game. You know, relatively speaking, it's

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Speaker 2: I don't know that he was going to cash and

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Speaker 2: something like that, and he did go over. He ended

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Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, for a long time it didn't

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Speaker 2: then you go back to last week, Washington's rush defense

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Speaker 2: with you, Jared. I think you could just maybe punt

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Speaker 2: either way, I think you're gonna be sweating that out.

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Speaker 2: What twenty five and a half is a huge number,

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Speaker 2: but as we know, he can break one long run

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Speaker 2: This is not looking good.

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Speaker 3: Right now, you know.

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Speaker 4: And I think that numbers artificially inflated because of the

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Speaker 4: when you have a mobile quarterback who's not his mobile

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Speaker 4: you know earlier on.

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Speaker 3: So it makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Everything adds up in terms of how you can come

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Speaker 4: he's magical. Plus you know the variable that Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 4: maybe running the football less in this game.

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Speaker 3: They need to preserve him.

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Speaker 4: So there's all of these things stacked up in that

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Speaker 4: weird because the number stinks, and when that happens, you

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Speaker 5: Beware, I go gain well if you're gonna bet a

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Speaker 5: you know, everyone's clowning and trashing Jalen Hurts this week,

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Speaker 5: And the Eagles don't really need to throw it a

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Speaker 5: zone looks. The Commander's run mostly manned well. Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 5: Jalen can't throw He's not throwing it well, and that's

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Speaker 2: Well, this is a better matchup for him to throw it.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna have one on one man coverage on a

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Speaker 5: So if you're gonna bet at this week, I'd go

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Speaker 2: I think that's kind of the value plays this week.

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Speaker 2: And Saquan, let's ladder it to the under here, let's

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Speaker 2: go now, you're getting spicy under eighty. Oh boy, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if we want to

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Speaker 2: let's look back to the playoff games last week. And

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Speaker 4: a w In terms of the Commanders, obviously extremely impressed

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Speaker 4: with them. Jaden Daniels being a rookie handling a moment

438
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Speaker 4: like that, it's tough.

439
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Speaker 3: It's tough.

440
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Speaker 4: You're you're not playing with the perfect group. There's some

441
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Speaker 4: serious holes on this team. You got to make make

442
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Speaker 4: up for a lot on offense for what your defense lacks.

443
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Speaker 4: And he was able to do that, and able to

444
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Speaker 4: do it against one of the scariest teams left in

445
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Speaker 4: the field.

446
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Speaker 3: So credit where credit is due.

447
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Speaker 4: The most impressive team was the Commanders, but I was

448
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Speaker 4: impressed with the Bills beating the Baltimore Ravens.

449
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Speaker 5: Yeah, all the teams that won the yardage battle all lost.

450
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Speaker 5: Very strange weekend. I did increase Buffalo in my ratings

451
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Speaker 5: because of what you guys said about how they played

452
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 5: clean football and playing clean football in the playoffs you like.

453
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 5: I know it isn't sexy, but I think it should

454
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Speaker 5: be because there's one thing I also noticed about the

455
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Speaker 5: box scores over the weekend and the box scores the

456
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Speaker 5: entire postseason.

457
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Speaker 2: This shouldn't come as a surprise.

458
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Speaker 5: Teams that win the playoffs or teams that win the

459
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 5: turnover battle in the playoffs are seven to zero in

460
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Speaker 5: the playoffs. So far, There's been three games that have

461
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Speaker 5: finished even where both teams have not turned it over.

462
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Speaker 5: Kansas City Houston was one of them. But Houston out

463
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Speaker 5: gained Kansas City, but Kansas City didn't make any mistakes.

464
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 5: Houston took eight sacks, Tiny Fairburn missed three field goals.

465
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Speaker 5: Ravens game obviously, all the mistakes that ball More made, obviously,

466
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 5: all the mistakes that Jared Goff and the Lions made.

467
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford had some mistakes. The Rams turned it over twice.

468
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 5: The Eagles did not turn it over. So I think

469
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Speaker 5: we need to reframe the way we view the playoff

470
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Speaker 5: games compared to the regular season, where looking impressive in

471
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Speaker 5: my eyes is just not beating yourself. Teams that are

472
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Speaker 5: playing clean football, in my eyes, even if it's not

473
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Speaker 5: sexy and explosive like the Commanders were, if you're just

474
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Speaker 5: doing what the Bills did, which is, don't beat yourself,

475
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Speaker 5: allow the Ravens to make all the mistakes, make the

476
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Speaker 5: plays when you need to make it, don't make any

477
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Speaker 5: dumb penalties. Buffalo had one penalty in the game for

478
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Speaker 5: ten yards, Ravens five for forty three. Like, I know,

479
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Speaker 5: that isn't sexy and it's not going to show up

480
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Speaker 5: on a Sports Center Top ten play, but in my

481
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Speaker 5: eyes and the playoffs, it should because that's how you

482
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Speaker 5: win postseason games in the NFL.

483
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a huge part of it, no doubt. Troy Aikman,

484
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Speaker 2: he was quoting Jimmy Johnson a couple of weeks ago,

485
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Speaker 2: and he said something to the effect of Jimmy would

486
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: always say, it's not the team that makes the most

487
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Speaker 2: good plays, it's the team that avoids the most bad plays.

488
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Speaker 2: That's such a great quote, and playoff football is a

489
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Speaker 2: lot like that. To your point, Jared, or to Jimmy

490
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: Johnson's point, I don't know what, Jimmy, but yeah, you

491
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Speaker 2: don't have to just be outstanding in every phase and like, well,

492
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Speaker 2: that's impressive. Sometimes not shooting yourself in the foot is impressive.

493
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Speaker 2: It's just I look at you know, like these other

494
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Speaker 2: teams that did that. The Ravens did that. Absolutely they

495
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Speaker 2: did with Mark Andrews his turnovers, Lamar had two turnovers.

496
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Speaker 2: You look at the Lions, my gosh, five turnovers including

497
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Speaker 2: a pick six, twelve men on the field. That was

498
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Speaker 2: the definition of beating yourself was what the Lions did

499
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Speaker 2: last week. And it's not like Jayden Daniels needed any

500
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Speaker 2: additional help because he was electric on his own. I'll

501
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Speaker 2: tell you who I was impressed with beyond just the

502
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Speaker 2: performance last week with Jaden Daniels. I'm impressed with Jaden

503
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Speaker 2: Daniels this week because he was asked about the underdog

504
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Speaker 2: role and I love his answer to that whole thing.

505
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Speaker 2: Listen to what the Washington quarterback had to say.

506
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Speaker 6: Everybody tried to write like an underdog story, but for us,

507
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 6: it's just we'reg you go out there and playing confident, like, no,

508
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 6: we can compete against these guys, and that's a very

509
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Speaker 6: good team. So it's nothing like I take a little

510
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Speaker 6: extra motivation. I'm already motivated to go into the game,

511
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Speaker 6: regardless if it was Week two or you know, the

512
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Speaker 6: Nfcity Championship game.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I really love that because it lets

514
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Speaker 2: you know his whole mindset where he's not like they're

515
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 2: not giving us I respect. You know, He's like, we belong.

516
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Speaker 2: Let's just go out there and play confidently. I'm not

517
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Speaker 2: worried about the underdog role or anything like that. Doesn't

518
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Speaker 2: it remind you of Joe Burrow a couple of years ago,

519
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 2: remember when they made it all the way to the

520
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, and he had the same a similar thought

521
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Speaker 2: about the underdog role.

522
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Speaker 4: I'm tired of the underdog narrative and we're a really,

523
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 4: really good team.

524
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Speaker 3: We're here to make noise, right.

525
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Speaker 2: I love that because there are some teams that they

526
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: couldn't embrace the underdog underdog role more. But Burrow and

527
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels both LSU guys. They're like, we belong. We're

528
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Speaker 2: not just some David like we're Goliath. Also, I love

529
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Speaker 2: that whole mindset from them.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 4: I think the majority of the NFL feels that way.

532
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Speaker 4: If you think about what it takes to even just

533
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Speaker 4: be on the field, you know, the durability that it takes,

534
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Speaker 4: the talent that your team needs to have, the the

535
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Speaker 4: the quarterback that you need to have. I mean, not

536
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Speaker 4: everybody has a Joe Burrow, not everybody has a Jaden Daniels.

537
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Speaker 4: I mean, think about the quarterbacks that are left in

538
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Speaker 4: this playoff field right now.

539
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Speaker 3: They're all special.

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Speaker 4: So it's there's a lot of things that have to

541
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Speaker 4: coalesce for you to be one of the final teams standing.

542
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Speaker 3: And so when you're interviewing a.

543
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Speaker 4: Playoff quarterback who's most likely a special talent, who's most

544
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Speaker 4: likely playing on a team filled with special having a

545
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 4: special year, it's really difficult to motivate yourself off a

546
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 4: betting line, like it almost seems stupid or foolhardy if

547
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 4: you're a player. I never looked at the spread. It

548
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 4: never made sense to me because football was so what's

549
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 4: the word I'm looking for?

550
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Speaker 3: Haphazard?

551
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Speaker 4: You know, you see it all the time, bad teams

552
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: who don't have any business beating you know, a better

553
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 4: team well, they can win. So unless you've got your

554
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 4: ducks in a row as a goliath, unless you have

555
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 4: your ducks a row in a row as a team

556
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 4: that should win, you'll get taken down by a couple

557
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 4: of Davids with their little slingshots around the NFL. Because

558
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 4: guess what, those Davids around the NFL, they've got Pro

559
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 4: Bowl talent too.

560
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Speaker 3: So it's like it's a league with great parody.

561
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Speaker 4: And I love quarterbacks realizing that young quarterbacks, i should say,

562
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 4: realizing that early in their career, like, you don't get

563
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Speaker 4: to the postseason unless you're good. So the underdog mentality

564
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 4: it's not gonna flow. You have to you have to

565
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Speaker 4: have a little bit more you. You have to have

566
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Speaker 4: a little bit of arrogance. You have to have a

567
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 4: little bit of swagger. And Jaden Daniels undoubtedly as swagger,

568
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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow Joe cool.

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Speaker 3: We know he does.

570
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Speaker 4: And so it doesn't shock me that those are their soundbites,

571
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Speaker 4: isn't it great?

572
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Speaker 2: Rich didn't care about the points bread back then, but

573
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Speaker 2: now he's doing a Yeah there you go, it comes

574
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Speaker 2: full circle.

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Speaker 4: Maybe, Yeah, now I'm doing the show brought to you Byeah.

576
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, Bill Belichick would be so proud of

577
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 5: you walking down those long hallways in New England just

578
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 5: doing your betting show. Now here, all these years later,

579
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Speaker 5: there's something to be said about just what Jaden's done

580
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Speaker 5: this year in the context of a rookie quarterback having

581
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Speaker 5: the success that he's had. Kyle Brant had this great

582
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Speaker 5: tweet after the game last Saturday night, and he said,

583
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Speaker 5: rookie quarterbacks to start an NFC title game where their

584
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Speaker 5: team's scoring defenses ranked that year.

585
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Speaker 2: So there's been now six of them.

586
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Speaker 5: Jayden's going to be the sixth rookie quarterback to start

587
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Speaker 5: a championship game. Brock Purty, Mark Sanchez, Joe Flacco, Big Ben,

588
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 5: Sean King all had first third, third, first third scoring

589
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Speaker 5: defenses in the NFL.

590
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Speaker 2: Jane Daniels eighteenth. Wow.

591
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Speaker 5: And I think he's a different kind of rookie because

592
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Speaker 5: of the fifth year and the experience and the mobility,

593
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Speaker 5: and you know, those other guys except for actually, no,

594
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Speaker 5: I was gonna give Big Ben a little bit of mobility,

595
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Speaker 5: but you know, he's just one of those guys that's

596
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 5: so big he can stay alive in the pocket like

597
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 5: all those other guys. Perty Sanchez, Flacko Roethlisberger, Sean King,

598
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Speaker 5: love you, Bud. Not mobile quarterbacks, like I think, you know,

599
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 5: the experience the fifth year, the mobility, it just takes

600
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 5: away a lot of It covers up a lot of

601
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Speaker 5: wartz that some rookies have, right raiding defenses, doing things

602
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Speaker 5: like you could just bail, Like there were plays against

603
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Speaker 5: the Lions where they were bringing they were bringing a

604
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 5: lot of blitzer in that game, and he's like, screw it,

605
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 5: I'm bailing and he's just running around the edge five ten,

606
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 5: fifteen yards and you know, resets the down and distance.

607
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Speaker 2: It just it calms everything down.

608
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Speaker 5: You know, That's an ability that he has that, frankly,

609
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Speaker 5: not a lot of quarterbacks have, even the ones today

610
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Speaker 5: that are mobile. Like I wouldn't put Mahomes in the

611
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Speaker 5: mobility category of Jane Daniels, And I know he has mobility,

612
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Speaker 5: but I think his level of legs are different, and

613
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Speaker 5: the calmness, the coolness, like all that comes with the experience,

614
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 5: like like he's a different breed, Like he's not like

615
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Speaker 5: these other rookie quarterbacks. I think starting a title game

616
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Speaker 5: because of the quote you mentioned and because of some

617
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Speaker 5: of the other characteristics he has.

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Speaker 2: You know some of the characteristics you're talking about with

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Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels, it reminds me of Lamar Jackson. And I

620
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Speaker 2: would just, uh, I would like to know if you

621
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Speaker 2: can grant me some rant status here for so I've

622
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Speaker 2: been saying on the rundown last night. I've been waiting

623
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Speaker 2: all night for it. I'm dreaming about it.

624
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Speaker 3: I can't Tankeris know about appearance. Oh man, here we go, baby.

625
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Speaker 2: I saw something that it just made my eyes bulge

626
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Speaker 2: in anger. Over here, okay, is the athletics as they

627
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: put a newsletter together, and it's a good little rundown

628
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: of what's going on and all that type of stuff.

629
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Speaker 2: And there was one thing that caught my attention the

630
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Speaker 2: other day and it just reads like this, Mark Andrews

631
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Speaker 2: drop right. Remember Mark Andrews of the Ravens. He dropped

632
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Speaker 2: a two point conversion. So Mark Andrews drop quote kept

633
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Speaker 2: the overstated narrative surrounding Lamar Jackson's postseason deficiencies alive for

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Speaker 2: another year. End quote, writes Michael Silver, who suggests we

635
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Speaker 2: instead appreciate Jackson's brilliance. And I just thought to myself,

636
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Speaker 2: good lord, what are we doing here? Like you gotta

637
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: call it like it is. You don't have to be

638
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: the biggest hater on the face of the earth to

639
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: just watch and say, Lamar through a terrible interception, he

640
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: had a horrible fumble that led to a touchdown, and

641
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Speaker 2: we're supposed to celebrate his brilliance. It's like, get out

642
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: of here with that. That drives me crazy. Lamar is

643
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: super talented, but he's a two time MVP, he's possibly

644
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: a three time MVP, and he just hasn't played well

645
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: enough in the postseason. That's not being a hater. His

646
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: passer rating is eighty four point six in the playoffs.

647
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: That's in the neighborhood of Cooper Rush this past season

648
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Speaker 2: for the Cowboys. That's what Lamar has done in the playoffs. Again, like,

649
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Speaker 2: it's not just crushing the guy who's super talented. It's

650
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Speaker 2: got to be better in the postseason. And I think

651
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Speaker 2: this is the bigger picture that I find interesting is

652
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Speaker 2: that a lot of times if someone has something critical

653
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Speaker 2: to say, people say, oh, you're just you're taking this

654
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: way too personally. You know this is personal for you,

655
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: that you're hating on the guy. Really, sometimes it's the

656
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: other way. How come flowery comments are never personal, right, Like,

657
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: how come someone saying, hey, let's celebrate Lamar's brilliance after

658
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: he us two turnovers again in a playoff game. How

659
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: is that not personal? How is it just the critical

660
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: statements that are personal? I think flowery statements when it

661
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: isn't called for is also personal. And I'm not saying, hey, guys,

662
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: let's just hate on Lamar. Let's come right, like it's

663
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: the hater party over here. But you gotta call it

664
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Speaker 2: like it is. He's capable of better and it hasn't

665
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: been as good as it needs to be in the postseason.

666
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: That's just the truth.

667
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Any anything you say about Lamar, anything you say

668
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 4: about Lamar that he wouldn't say about himself, I guess

669
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 4: you could characterize under Oh maybe you're going a little

670
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 4: too far, you know what I mean. But Lamar Jackson

671
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 4: would say all of the same things about his game

672
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 4: that he played that you just pointed out, the two turnovers,

673
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 4: the one real bad interception, his carelessness with the football

674
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 4: in the postseason over the.

675
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: Course of his career.

676
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 4: He said it after the game that he's tired of

677
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 4: that and it's something he's got to fix. Look, you know,

678
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 4: here's the thing Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson is an ice

679
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 4: cream cone. I'm never gonna complain about an ice cream cone.

680
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 4: But you know what, on a really hot day, an

681
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 4: ice cream cone will melt because the sun's more powerful. Okay,

682
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 4: we've seen this a lot Lamar Jackson. When he's facing

683
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 4: the sun, you know, whether it be the Brady led

684
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay Buccaneers or the Chiefs Led or the Patrick

685
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 4: Mahomes led Chiefs or the Josh Allen led Buffalo Bills,

686
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 4: the cream of the crop, the class of the NFL.

687
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 4: He typically makes the mistakes that melts the Baltimore Ravens down.

688
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 4: Ice Cream's great. Nobody's complained about ice cream. I got

689
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 4: nothing but good things to say about ice cream. But

690
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 4: against the sun, the sun always wins, and that's been

691
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 4: the problem for Lamar Jackson.

692
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: Over the course of his career. That was beautiful.

693
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: I have nothing to add. I love the ice cream. Meta.

694
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: What's your favorite flavor?

695
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 3: Vanilla with rainbow sprinkles.

696
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a simple chocolate vanilla guy.

697
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 3: Okay, I could have turned out caramel sauce.

698
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: It's very good as well. Absolutely, that's rich Oroinberger, Penn

699
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: State all American. We've got Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

700
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 2: I'm Brian No, I'd have to go Suberto. I always

701
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: thought it was pronounced ice cream. I thought it was

702
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 2: sure Bert. I guess we're just mispronouncing it this whole time.

703
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: But at the top, Yeah, you can french it up.

704
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: You can french it up. I got no problems with that.

705
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Speaker 1: Check this out ar late ladder.

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Speaker 2: Ah, Yes, the parlay ladder. We each have one selection.

719
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: We pull it together for a greater payout. We have

720
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Speaker 2: a theme that my gosh, this might be the last week.

721
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Speaker 1: We have this.

722
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: It will be it we don't we don't get one.

723
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Speaker 2: What's what's the theme again, Jared, Oh, it's tundydive, it's

724
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Speaker 2: study dove.

725
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 5: Can we get a little I don't know whether we're

726
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 5: kind of you know, audio drops.

727
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: We can go bind the scenes here, all right, I'll

728
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 2: keep it very we let's get checked up for tunny

729
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 2: time baby.

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00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 5: When Josh Allen gets in the red zone, he turns

731
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 5: into like it's like radar activated, like it just I

732
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 5: just think Josh their book James coach stip between the

733
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 5: twenties guy, and when the Bills get in the red zone,

734
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 5: I think they look elsewhere for touchdowns and scored two

735
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 5: last week.

736
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: I mean, how can you not bet Josh Allen it

737
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: might have won ten.

738
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 5: It's a coin flip price. I think it's better than

739
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 5: coin flip odds. He finds the end zone, I think

740
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 5: it's more like sixty to forty. So i'llo Josh Allen

741
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 5: first leg and I've got I'm the short.

742
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: End of the stick.

743
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 3: Today.

744
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: You guys are going very bold with your tutty times.

745
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: I love it.

746
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I wanted to give give a pick that

747
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 4: I think is a little bit of a long shot,

748
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 4: especially with the dudes that doubt that Godair has.

749
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: Not practiced all that much.

750
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 4: The tight end for the Eagles has an ankle he's

751
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 4: been nursing ahead of the NFC Championship game. But I

752
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 4: like his impact on the game plan, especially in critical

753
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: situations for Jalen Hurts. He kind of bails him out,

754
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 4: especially in the red zone in tough moments. So give

755
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 4: me Godair. I'm gonna take him. And I think it's

756
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 4: like a plus three fifty.

757
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: Yes, three to one, but I think it's got her.

758
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. I like friendship.

759
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: We were we were talking about we were talking about

760
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 4: Shorbeys and Shebert earlier. So instead of saying Goddard, I

761
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 4: go go there, go there.

762
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: It's like Rudy Gobert. This could only happen in radio.

763
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: By the way, was I was filling in for Charlotte

764
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: at the time when Dallas Goddard was coming out of

765
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: San Diego. What what South Dakota State? Yeah, And I'm like,

766
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: is it is it Goddard or Godard? Yeah, so I

767
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: asked him. I interviewed him for this fill in shift

768
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 2: in Charlotte, So I interviewed before he was drafted. So

769
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: that's it. Random radio come full circle with I should

770
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 2: have sent him go there unless he's then he's got her?

771
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: Is it?

772
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 3: Go there? You know, you get a little crazy there.

773
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: Now here's the thing, Jared, I have my pick in,

774
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: but it's on the same team. No, it's good, you're

775
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: a pick. It's good. I mean, yeah, obviously there's less

776
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: chance of the bills, you know what I'm saying, right,

777
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: So gets juicy though, I mean, this sucker's twenty nine

778
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: and one. We put the buying on these together. I say,

779
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: run with it, Bud, We're just say roll with it. Okay,

780
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 2: don't let the record show. I don't like having two

781
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: touchdown dudes on the same ticket on the same team.

782
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

783
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 2: Time, I'm going Dalton Kincaid here because listen, the Chiefs

784
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 2: they're they're allergic to covering tight ends, you know, and

785
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: so that's been an achilles heel for them. It's it's

786
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: four to one, so we can get Kincaid in the

787
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: end zone. And I just think back to it is

788
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago in the regular season, Dalton

789
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: Schultz had the first touchdown of the game, right, Like,

790
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: they just lose tight ends from time to time. So

791
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: I'll take Kincaid. I just I just don't love alan

792
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: En Kinkaid on the same Tuddy time Parlay time here in.

793
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: But here's the thing.

794
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 5: The Bills are supposed to score twenty four points in

795
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 5: this game, twenty three, twenty four points depending on.

796
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: What side of the juice and on.

797
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 5: And besides Kinkaid, it's Kean Coleman, Shakir and James Cook.

798
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: And I don't think James Cook's gonna get any touches

799
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 2: in the red.

800
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 5: It's not as many as Josh Allen might get. And

801
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 5: if they're gonna throw it in, I think Kinkaid's a

802
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 5: good option.

803
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: I'd be honest.

804
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 3: I like this part.

805
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 5: It's twenty nine to one, this part of Juicy. Yeah,

806
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 5: why not take a little sprinkle, come on, have some

807
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 5: fun championship and.

808
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,959
Speaker 2: It would be good to clear my name.

809
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 5: You guys are gonna hit in mine, which yeah, one

810
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 5: ten is gonna lose probably, that's.

811
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Speaker 2: Right, right, Josh get in the end zone, man, all right,

812
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: come it up next. He's been the player of the

813
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 2: Playoffs thus far. Oh, welcome in here, as we're getting

814
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: you all set for championships Sunday and then some you know,

815
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 2: we got hoops today. I don't know that we're gonna

816
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: get knee deep into hoops. We got hoops beginning right

817
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: when we get off the air. You know, we got

818
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: the French game going on here again with the Pacers

819
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: and the Spurs with I call him the French freak

820
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: we Yama, you know freak when the French freak you

821
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: know that actually has better alliteration then even though it does,

822
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: you're right about that. Yeah, Wemby has been spectaculars. But

823
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: we look to championships sun day here to begin this hour,

824
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: and we've got the Washington Commanders at the Philadelphia Eagles.

825
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 2: Eagles favored by six.

826
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: Here.

827
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 2: Here's my first question. Has there been a brighter star

828
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: in these playoffs so far than Jayden Daniels? Has anybody

829
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: played better football than Jayden Daniels? The answer is no.

830
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: Who else would be on the short list that's been

831
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: thriving in the postseason. There are some names there, not

832
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: a brighter star than Jayden Daniels thus far, though, right,

833
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: you guys concurring here, Yeah, the quarterback situation makes it

834
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: like that.

835
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, I would say maybe only a close

836
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 4: second because of what he's meant to the Philadelphia Eagles

837
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: this season, Saquon Barkley.

838
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: But there you go.

839
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 4: But but I mean it's it's it's irrefutable that what

840
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels is doing comparatively is more difficult. I mean

841
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 4: from both standpoints the position he plays and the responsibilities

842
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 4: that come with that, and also the fact that he's

843
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 4: a rookie. Saquan's been doing this for a long time.

844
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels, this is the first rattle out of the box,

845
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 4: and he looks like a veteran. He's so composed. So yeah,

846
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 4: I concur he is the star of the postseason.

847
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 5: No turnovers in two postseason games is great, and not

848
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 5: just no turnovers for Jadon Daniels, no turnovers for the

849
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 5: Commanders in two postseason games. And I know the Lions

850
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 5: defense wasn't exactly the eighty five Bears, and context matters, right,

851
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 5: Tampa's defense is tough, but I think of all the

852
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 5: games last week, Jayden Daniels had the easiest go indoors

853
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 5: no snow Lions defense straight man to man, single high safety,

854
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 5: like you know, a very very basic defensive structure, Aaron,

855
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 5: don't get me wrong. And what Aaron Glenn did with

856
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 5: that defense, despite the fact that they were literally throwing

857
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 5: out practice squad guys the last eight weeks of the year,

858
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 5: basically definitely deserves some love.

859
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what he does with the Jets.

860
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 5: But I think if you're just gonna ask me straight

861
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 5: up in a vacuum, which player, which quarterback has exceeded

862
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 5: the expectations by the biggest margin, widest margin, There's no

863
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 5: doubt about it.

864
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 2: It's Jayden Daniels.

865
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 3: You know.

866
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: This is something we talked about last Sunday on Countdown

867
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: to kick Off, but I want to bring it to

868
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Speaker 2: you guys on Saturday because shout out to our trusted

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Speaker 2: producer Bo Benson. He texted me with a great question.

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Speaker 2: He was like, is Jaden Daniels the top five quarterback already?

871
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 2: And you start thinking about it? Yeah, yeah, I think

872
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: he is. And that might sound to some like I

873
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: need to see more than just one year. Think of

874
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Speaker 2: CJ Stroud. CJ Stroud was unbelievable his rookie year and

875
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: he came back to Earth big time this season. But

876
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Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels, if you just look at the here and

877
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: now this season, and who are you putting outside of

878
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Speaker 2: the top four, which are pretty much consensus guys, right,

879
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: guys like Mahomes and Burrow and Josh Allen. A lot

880
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: of people have Lamar up there? Who's number five? If

881
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: those are your top four?

882
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: Right?

883
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: Are you putting Stafford there? Are You're putting Jalen Hurts there?

884
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: You're putting Jayden Daniels there. I think he's top five already.

885
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: You can make a great argument that he's there. If

886
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: he's not, he's like sixth or seventh. He's a top

887
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: ten guy absolutely already.

888
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: I only hesitate to agree with you for what the

889
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 4: same thing I feel about Jayeen Daniels today I felt

890
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 4: about CJ.

891
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: Stroud last year.

892
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 4: Maybe I feel a little stronger for Jayde and Daniels

893
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: because I felt better about him coming out of LSU

894
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 4: than I did Stroud coming out of college football. So

895
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 4: I will I will give him the boost there. But

896
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 4: the NFL, it's true, man, because you can look really

897
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 4: really good in a rookie season, and then we can

898
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 4: see a depreciation as teams have an entire offseason to.

899
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: Look at the film.

900
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 4: It's not on a weekly basis where you're so distracted

901
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 4: all season long with all the other sixteen opponents that

902
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 4: you have to prepare for. Then when it's your time,

903
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 4: the wheel lands on the Commanders on your schedule, you

904
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 4: only have a week to get ready for Jaden Daniels,

905
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 4: you know.

906
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: So it's a very.

907
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 4: Different thing when you have an offseason a breakdown film,

908
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: especially for the Eagles, especially for the Dallas Cowboys, especially

909
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 4: for the New York Giants who are going to face

910
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 4: them twice a season. Here as he can progress his

911
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 4: during the course of his career in division.

912
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: So you have that.

913
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 4: I will say, pump the breaks on saying that he's

914
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 4: a top five talent in all of the NFL, because

915
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 4: the reality is we don't know yet. It's in terms

916
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: of his rookie season, it's the best of all time.

917
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 4: I don't I think there's really much refuting that that's

918
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 4: what he's already done is the best rookie season of

919
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 4: all time. But I'm not going to guarantee that this

920
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 4: is what the rest of his career looks like. I'm

921
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 4: always hesitant to project that far forward.

922
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 5: This is why our synergy on the show is so

923
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 5: great because I've actually already started my twenty twenty five

924
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 5: NFL prep.

925
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 2: I know I'm sick, I am sick, I'm a super individual.

926
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: You're sick, puppy.

927
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 5: So the first the first thing I do when I

928
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 5: start my prep for the next year, it starts.

929
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: It's very easy, it's very high level. In't really put

930
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: a lot of thought into it. A little bit of

931
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: thought into it. I take a lot of the.

932
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Speaker 5: Ratings I had from this year, and I just copy

933
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Speaker 5: it over to a new spreadsheet. But the first thing

934
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 5: I do is obviously new coaching changes, OCDC changes, and

935
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Speaker 5: then I do my quarterback ratings.

936
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Speaker 2: And right now, granted.

937
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Speaker 5: There's a lot of question marks, for example, Cleveland, Vegas, Saints, Giants, Titans, Vikings,

938
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 5: question marks on who's playing quarterback next year. But of

939
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 5: the quarterbacks that I know are gonna be on the

940
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Speaker 5: team and starting next year, I have Jayden Daniels sixth.

941
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,479
Speaker 5: I have Mahomes eight points better, Lamar Josh Allen seven

942
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 5: and a half, Burrow seven. Then there's a gap Stafford five,

943
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 5: Jayden Daniels four and a half points.

944
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: Better than the average quarterback.

945
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 3: Right now, so.

946
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't really think it's far fetched to call

947
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 5: him a top five now. I still think Mahomes, Lamar,

948
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 5: Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Matthew Stafford are ahead.

949
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: That's my list. You know, it's crazy if you compared

950
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels to Lamar in the postseason, it's not even comparable. Agreed,

951
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: not even remotely.

952
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 5: But it's hard when he's a two time probably and

953
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 5: by the way, official, I'm beyond the record right now.

954
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 5: I think Lamar Jackson's gonna win the MVP just because

955
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 5: of how the All Pro stuff shook out. They kind

956
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 5: of gave you the answer to Coach of the Year

957
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 5: two with Kevin O'Connell winning the Pro Football Writers' Award

958
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 5: this week. But I think you gotta give Lamar and

959
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 5: Josh Allen just because of the experience and because of

960
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 5: what they've done.

961
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: You've got to give them the edge.

962
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 5: And I think Stafford deserves that respect, Joe Burrow deserves

963
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 5: that respect. Mahomes obviously, but outside of that, right like

964
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 5: it's Goff, Hurtz, Baker, Jordan Love, Like there's kind of

965
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 5: a mish mash in that middle tier that's right in

966
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 5: the four three three four points better than the average

967
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 5: quarterback range. C. J. Strouds in there two and Herberts

968
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 5: in there like, and then there's a little bit more

969
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 5: of a gap to the next round.

970
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 2: But I think he's in that second tier right now. Okay,

971
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: so let's do this real fast. Then we'll move it

972
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: back to Commanders Eagles. Right, Let's do Jaden Daniels versus

973
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 2: the world. Okay, now, going into twenty twenty five, who

974
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: would you rather have as your quarterback? And I'll give

975
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: you a couple of the quarterbacks that are like outside

976
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: the consensus top four, right, I feel like Mahomes and

977
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: Josh Allen and Burrow and Lamar most people, I think

978
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: those are mostly the consensus top four. So if you're

979
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 2: looking at that next, who's number five would you rather have?

980
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 2: For twenty twenty five? Jayden, Daniels, are jer Gough, I

981
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Speaker 2: go Daniels.

982
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 3: I would go Daniels.

983
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: I would go Daniels too. Because of the brain drain

984
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: in Detroit, they lost like every coach. Okay, Daniels or Baker,

985
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 2: who's your guy?

986
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 3: I would take Bakers?

987
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: You go Baker there, I think I take Daniels. He

988
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: just lost his O. C. Baker's lost his OC Yeah.

989
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, they Yeah, the Jacksonville Jaguars stole him. But I yeah,

990
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'd still go Baker.

991
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 3: There.

992
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 2: You got something. You got a fascination for quarterbacks to

993
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 2: throw interceptions. I get it now. Baker has been very,

994
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 2: very good. Forty one touchdowns, sixteen picks. Passer rating is

995
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 2: a bucko six. That's that's elite type stuff.

996
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 5: Really, he's right there, like, there's not a big gap

997
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 5: between Baker and Jayden.

998
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 2: But I would slept because of the legs. I think

999
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: I take Jayden. Okay, how about just one or two others,

1000
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,959
Speaker 2: Herbert or Jaden Daniels taking Herbert. You're going, Herbert, Where

1001
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 2: do you have Daniels there?

1002
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 3: Rich?

1003
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: Good Lord, Herbert, I have I have Jayden Daniels.

1004
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 3: Probably No.

1005
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 4: Like I said, top ten, I can make an argument,

1006
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 4: but top five I can't.

1007
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: I can't. And here's the reason why. Because he's a rookie.

1008
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think a lot of people get

1009
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 4: way over their skis with rookies. Now, don't get me wrong.

1010
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 4: I hope he proves me wrong. I'm a Jaden Daniels fan.

1011
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 4: I'm so impressed with what he's been able to do

1012
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 4: this season. But I'm not gonna sit here and say like,

1013
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 4: because he's done it one time for a seventeen game

1014
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 4: season plus two doesn't mean I'm going to bet the

1015
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 4: farm that he can return in year two and make

1016
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 4: it look exactly the same way. Because guess what everyone

1017
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 4: got real far over their skis. It was a forward

1018
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 4: leam with CJ. Stroud, and c J. Stroud didn't have

1019
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 4: a perfect team last year. He played with an injured

1020
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: offensive line, he played with a mass unit of receivers

1021
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 4: all year long, and that guy looked great, and so

1022
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 4: everybody was saying, well, if he could do it as

1023
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 4: a rookie with the problems that the Texans had, especially

1024
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 4: offensively he lost his tight end for part of the season,

1025
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 4: well then he's gonna be great in year two. And

1026
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 4: I said to everybody last year, pomp your breaks. It's

1027
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 4: his rookie season. Things change also, Defenses change.

1028
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 3: People catch up to what you're trying to do.

1029
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 4: They attack your weaknesses now and you're not only allowed

1030
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 4: to highlight your strengths.

1031
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 3: You have to adjust. And guess what happened in year

1032
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 3: two with CJ. Stroud.

1033
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 4: So again there's about seven or eight guys that go

1034
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 4: ahead of ahead of Jayden Daniels, which I think is

1035
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 4: still massively impressive that he's been able to accomplish this

1036
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 4: much his rookie season.

1037
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the and this is a very good

1038
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 5: argument to have because of the CJ. Stroud thing, and

1039
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 5: really it goes back to what we were talking about with

1040
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 5: Baker with Liam Cohen, Like CJ. Stroud and Bobby Sloweck

1041
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 5: kind of had a weird thing this year. And it

1042
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 5: wasn't really CJ and Bobby. I think it was more

1043
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 5: just Bobby Slowck with the rest of the scheme that.

1044
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: They were trying to run. There just wasn't a lot

1045
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: of synergy there.

1046
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 5: And they change, you know, they went from a full

1047
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 5: back system to a non fullback system. They tried to

1048
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 5: go three wide, and then the all the receivers got hurt.

1049
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 5: Like it was just kind of like a comedy of

1050
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 5: errors the Texans offense this year. A lot of the

1051
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 5: blame should be placed, of course on the quarterback, but

1052
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 5: I do think the scheme and the OC matters too,

1053
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 5: And that's why Baker situation is intriguing. I think that's

1054
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 5: why Jared Goff situation is intriguing. What's that lot Now

1055
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 5: that Liones have a embarrassment of riches offensively with their

1056
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 5: skill position, their offensive line, I think Baker maybe not

1057
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 5: as buttoned up in that area where their on line

1058
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 5: and their skill position. Guys are still very good, but

1059
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,479
Speaker 5: I don't I think the Lions maybe have the best

1060
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 5: perhaps when they're all healthy.

1061
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: It's I think Jayden and Daniels because of the experience,

1062
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: you have to grate them a little bit on a curve.

1063
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 5: I think the fifth year for these rookies, when you've

1064
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 5: had that extra year in college, I think they're not

1065
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 5: usual rookies, where as CJ. Stroud didn't have the extra year,

1066
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 5: and this is kind of his you know, he's kind

1067
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 5: of in his like sixth year of college football right now.

1068
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 2: Jade Daniels in his sixth year of college football right now.

1069
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 5: Like they're they're kind of on the same plane in

1070
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 5: terms of the experience level.

1071
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 2: Here's the thing is, I think there is, to Rich's point,

1072
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: such a thing as overreacting. I think there's also such

1073
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: a thing as underreacting. Well, it's like, let's just pump

1074
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: the brakes over here, Like we just had these coaching hires. Okay,

1075
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: like you have Pete Carroll with the Raiders. What do

1076
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: you think the chances are that the Raiders are playing

1077
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: in the AFC Championship Game? What do you think the

1078
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: chances are that they're the reason I bring them up?

1079
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: The Raiders were four and thirteen. I guess who was

1080
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: also four and thirteen before Jayden Daniels got there. The

1081
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: Washington Commanders, they're playing in the NFC Championship Game tomorrow,

1082
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 2: right like from four and thirteen to the NFC Title game.

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00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 3: And c J.

1084
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: Stroud was great, they weren't playing in the AFC Title game.

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00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: They got boat raced by the Ravens last season, you

1086
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, so I hear you on CJ.

1087
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: Stroud to a point, but it's like Jaydon Daniels took

1088
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: over a four and thirteen football team and they're playing

1089
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 2: for the NFC title tomorrow. Like that's a huge. The

1090
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: Jags were four and thirteen. You see Jacksonville the AFC

1091
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 2: title game. The Patriots were four and thirteen. You see

1092
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: them in the AFC Title game next year. Like that's

1093
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: what Washington has done, led by Jade and Daniel. Like

1094
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: that can't be under sold.

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00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 4: I get it. And I'm with you. I'm not arguing

1096
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 4: with He's been fantastic. I'm saying, how does this project forward?

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00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 4: And I'm less excited about the stock than you are.

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00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 3: Now. Don't get me wrong.

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00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 4: The people who didn't pull the trigger on Google when

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00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 4: that stock was about the IPO or Apple before the

1101
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 4: stock split nine times, they're kicking themselves in the pants

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00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 4: for not.

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00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 3: You know, fortune favors the bolt.

1104
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 4: So you're bold in saying that I put Jayden Daniels

1105
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 4: in the top five already. And what do I have

1106
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 4: to lose by agreeing with you? Absolutely nothing. I'd be

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00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 4: riding the high train just like you are.

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00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 3: Brian. No, but I'm not gonna do.

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00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 4: It because guess what, I've seen this a thousand times,

1110
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 4: and so have you.

1111
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 2: No, you haven't. Yes, you have not seen a thousand

1112
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 2: seasons to this Calbary. We have not seen that.

1113
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 4: We have seen sensational rookie seasons out now. This is outstanding.

1114
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 4: This is exceptional, and I agree with that. I said

1115
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 4: it to you earlier. This is the best rookie season

1116
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 4: at quarterback we've ever seen in the NFL. And I'm

1117
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 4: stamping it. I've never seen it better. Nobody has argue, fine, one,

1118
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 4: fine one. I'm waiting you can't. He has had an

1119
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 4: exceptional rookie season, better than anybody who's ever played the

1120
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 4: game before. Having said that, we've seen great rookies fade,

1121
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that he's gonna fade, but I'm saying

1122
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 4: right now, if I'm gonna put my money on a

1123
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 4: horse to lead my team next year, I want a

1124
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 4: little bit. I want a little bit of a bigger

1125
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 4: bite of the apple than I've had with Jayden Daniels

1126
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 4: so far. So give me Herbert, give me Baker Mayfield.

1127
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 4: And this argument you guys are making about oh new

1128
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator, So what he lost his offensive coordinator when

1129
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 4: Dave Canalis jumped ship to be the head coach of

1130
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 4: the Caroline Panthers.

1131
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 3: It went fine with Cohen, So spare me. Baker. Mayfield's

1132
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 3: a gamer, Jade and Danil too.

1133
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 4: But I'm telling you right now, we're all getting very,

1134
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 4: very excited, and it's possible. I'm not saying it's even likely,

1135
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 4: but it's possible. We're getting a little bit over our skis.

1136
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 3: On Jayden dan A.

1137
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: Baker was one and done at home against two.

1138
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 3: That's true. That's true. Listen.

1139
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 2: Critical error in that game too, on the fumble.

1140
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 4: No, it was it was a bad look. It's a

1141
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 4: bad showing. I'm not arguing with you that Jaden Daniels

1142
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 4: is in talented. I will never argue that I think

1143
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 4: he is. But you're not going to convince me that

1144
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 4: we should put him in the top five of the

1145
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 4: NFL heading into twenty twenty into the twenty twenty five

1146
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 4: season because we've only seen him for US season. Give

1147
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 4: me a bigger sample size and I'll be just as

1148
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 4: over the moon. Maybe I'll put him ahead of Lamar

1149
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 4: next year. You know, you know I mean, because let's

1150
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 4: be honest with each other. Depending on what happens in

1151
00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 4: this postseason, yeah, we may have to. So I'm listen,

1152
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 4: I'm right there with you. I think he's exceptional, but

1153
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 4: we've seen exceptional before, and we've seen exceptional fade. We

1154
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 4: literally have the example staring at us in the face

1155
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 4: with C. J.

1156
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 3: Stroud. We'll see how he looks in year three, but

1157
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 3: it can happen.

1158
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1159
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 5: The Bobby Slow thing and who they get to replace

1160
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 5: him at OC is going to be interesting.

1161
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: I think context matters.

1162
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 5: For example, if Jaden Daniels played in the AFC and

1163
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 5: they had to play the Chiefs in that divisional matchup

1164
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 5: and not the Lions, right, Like, I think it's just

1165
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 5: the NFC is more wide open this year for a

1166
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 5: story like Jaden Daniels to materialize, whereas a rookie quarterback

1167
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 5: going through Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Like, the

1168
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 5: odds of that are just so astronomical because of how

1169
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 5: good those quarterbacks are that I think the perfect storm

1170
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 5: needed to materialize, whereas Jaden Daniels had to be in

1171
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 5: this particular situation with this team in this conference.

1172
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: I'll finish with a question. Let's flip it.

1173
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 5: Let's flip the number one and number two picks. Let's

1174
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 5: say Caleb Williams is on the Commanders this year. Are

1175
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 5: they playing in the NFC title tomorrow.

1176
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: I'm not sure they are.

1177
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I say, I know I would.

1178
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think it's like you gotta get rid of

1179
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 2: the ball on time. I'm all for, you know, like

1180
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 2: you know, I'm all for ed libbing and stuff, but

1181
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 2: not to the degree he does.

1182
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 5: It's an interesting hypothetical because I got a lot of

1183
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 5: crap from Bears fans back in like week six when

1184
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, you guys made the wrong pick,

1185
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 5: and they're like, oh, it's too soon, and I'm like, okay,

1186
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 5: let's let the let's let it play out.

1187
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1188
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,360
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Speaker 2: goodies will get to him momentarily. You know these totals,

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Speaker 2: real fast, guys, almost the same, right, Forty seven and

1215
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: a half for the NFC game, forty eight and a

1216
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 2: half for the AFC game. Anything that you know tickles

1217
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: your fancy over or under in either of those games.

1218
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 4: I think what that represents is the fact that in

1219
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 4: both games you have, well, actually more so in maybe

1220
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles Washington Commander's game, but also in the

1221
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 4: Chiefs Buffalo game, you have one team in each matchup

1222
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 4: who can really possess the football dominate time of possession,

1223
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 4: and so the totals can't get too over inflated because

1224
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 4: if Philadelphia plays their style football, they can keep a

1225
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 4: total pretty low, even though the Commanders conversely have this

1226
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 4: really explosive offensive. We know the Chiefs can pile up

1227
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 4: points when they're all synced up together offensively, but the

1228
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 4: Bills have the ability with Josh Allen's legs and obviously

1229
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 4: their backfield to sustain the ball and tick time off

1230
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 4: the clock. So I think the totals would have been

1231
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 4: higher if you had more explosive offenses paired, but I

1232
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 4: think they're about right.

1233
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 2: Well, let's get Seamus into the conversation here.

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Speaker 3: Let's do this follow the money, real good money. All right.

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Speaker 2: We're joined by Seamus McGee, team lead of sports trading

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Speaker 2: at bet MGM. Seamus, we're just comparing notes on these

1237
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: totals in the two championship games. What do you think

1238
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 2: Commander's Eagles forty seven and a half, Bills Chiefs forty

1239
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 2: eight and a half. You like the over under a

1240
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 2: either game.

1241
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 7: That's going to be back. I kind of lean under

1242
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 7: in both games. The Eagles Commander's game opened at forty eight.

1243
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 7: Took some money to move us off that down to

1244
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 7: forty seven and a half. I really believe in the

1245
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 7: Eagles and Chiefs defenses to really you know, thunder the

1246
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 7: offenses for each posing team. I've show like these high

1247
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 7: intensity games, I think you're just going to see a

1248
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 7: lot lower scoring.

1249
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Seamus.

1250
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 5: I think especially with the Eagles Commander's game, the third

1251
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 5: matchup between these teams, Vic Fangio is a wizard and

1252
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 5: the Commander's kind of outflanked Philly in that last meeting

1253
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 5: running a lot of empty which activated Jayden Daniels's legs. Well,

1254
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 5: now you get Fangio put that on tape, and I

1255
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 5: think Fanjo is gonna.

1256
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 2: Sniff that out.

1257
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 5: Did see some over money in the in the Chiefs

1258
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 5: Bills game, which I think was intriguing. Again, these teams

1259
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 5: know each other pretty well. I think the Chiefs, which

1260
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 5: is a predominantly pass heavy team, maybe they do decide

1261
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 5: to run it because we saw with the Ravens when

1262
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 5: they decided to run it had a lot.

1263
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 2: Of success against the Bills last week.

1264
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 5: But spread wise, I mean, do you see the Chiefs,

1265
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 5: you know, moving up to that key number of three

1266
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 5: or because of just how much respect Buffalo's gotten in

1267
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 5: the market. This one's probably going to stay pretty tight

1268
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 5: until Sunday night.

1269
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 7: I'd be surprised if this goes to three. It's been

1270
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 7: a lot of Bill's money money line and on the

1271
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 7: plus two, so I'd be a little surprised if this

1272
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 7: gets all the way up past two and a half,

1273
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:05,479
Speaker 7: up to three.

1274
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 4: Honestly, we were discussing prop bets earlier, Seamus, we were

1275
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 4: talking about Sakuon Barkley. The number for rushing total is

1276
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 4: one twenty five and a half. Now, the low total

1277
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 4: in that game kind of lends you to believe that

1278
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 4: maybe the game plan, it should be the game plan

1279
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 4: for the Philadelphia Eagles, But that number stinks. What side

1280
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 4: would you fall on if you absolutely had to with

1281
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 4: Sakuon Barkley it is?

1282
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 7: It does feel a touch high, but you know he's random.

1283
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 7: He's random for a mile against Washington this year when

1284
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 7: they've played, so I think that number says a lot about,

1285
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 7: you know, his performances against them in the past. I

1286
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 7: love the Eagles in this game in general, so I

1287
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 7: could see them really relying on Barkley, especially late when

1288
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 7: you're trying to burn some clock.

1289
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 2: How about the sides? Seamus and you're alluding to this.

1290
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 2: You like the Eagles minus six, you like Casey minus two,

1291
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: or any of the dogs. I know you're not leaning Washington,

1292
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: but how about the bills of those two sides?

1293
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I love Philly at the four and a half

1294
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 7: number at opened up that long gone, I still would

1295
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 7: take Eagles minus six honestly, and I'm honestly I'm on

1296
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 7: the Chiefs minus two. I think they're gonna win the game,

1297
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 7: so I'll I'll take the points with the two.

1298
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's always an interesting dynamic when you get a

1299
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 5: tight line like that and you know it.

1300
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 2: There's a lot of.

1301
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 5: Nerd math involved with do you lay the two? Do

1302
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 5: you bet the money line? Do you have any advice

1303
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 5: for gamblers this weekend because a lot of them, you know,

1304
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 5: the recreational ones, don't like to lay thirty cents or

1305
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 5: minus one thirty on a money line. But does that

1306
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,959
Speaker 5: make more sense because of the fact that you're seeing

1307
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 5: a lot of bills money, maybe you get a cheaper

1308
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 5: price on the money line.

1309
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 7: The only thing I'd say is I wouldn't buy points.

1310
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 7: I know, easier said than done for a lot of

1311
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 7: these games, especially right around the hooks, but I would

1312
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 7: if you like the Eagles, just take the six. And

1313
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 7: even if you like the Commanders, like I don't think

1314
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 7: it's worth buying up to half a point there if

1315
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 7: you like to command If the commander's Tom, I think

1316
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 7: they're obviously going to have a great shot at winning

1317
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 7: the game. I feel like it's one of those spots

1318
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 7: where it's like the Eagles win. I think they cover

1319
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 7: the number very easily, but I think the Commanders, if

1320
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 7: they keep it close, they have a shot at winning.

1321
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 7: But I'd say, you know, I wouldn't really buy any

1322
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 7: points in these games.

1323
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 4: Here on Fox Sports Radio, Seamus Colin Cowherd's voice is ubiquitous, right.

1324
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 4: I mean we have promos playing all the time, and

1325
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 4: one of them he says, Hey, new information, new opinions.

1326
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:40,959
Speaker 3: Right.

1327
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna ask you a question that I'd asked

1328
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 4: you a week ago. With the information we have now

1329
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 4: watching how the Divisional Round played out, can you really

1330
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 4: put up anybody over the Chiefs in terms of winning

1331
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl? Has anybody impressed you to this point

1332
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 4: enough to say, well, if that's the team that meets

1333
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 4: the Chiefs, or maybe the Buffalo Bills can out outlast

1334
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 4: the Chiefs in the SAFC Championship game. Is there anybody

1335
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 4: who's impressed you enough to take over the Chiefs?

1336
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 7: I don't know what I mean. Commanders have been very

1337
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 7: impressive this postseason, but I'm still definitely not taking them

1338
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 7: over Kansas City. But like, do you look at the Bills.

1339
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 7: I Bill got out game by over one hundred yards

1340
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 7: against the Ravens and they got a big call at

1341
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 7: the end of that first half to set up first

1342
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 7: in goal. If they play anywhere like that that they

1343
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 7: did last week, I think Kansas City is going to

1344
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 7: have a very easy time winning at home against them.

1345
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 7: And trying to say Kansas City was that impressive against

1346
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 7: Houston's defenses for real, though, I think this is the

1347
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 7: best defense in football, second to and the second best

1348
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 7: defensive ball probably in Philly right now. So I think

1349
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 7: I was really impressed with the three other teams outside

1350
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 7: the Commanders, But I think if there's any team, I

1351
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 7: think he goes have the best shot of being the Chiefs.

1352
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 3: To answer your question, that's good stuff.

1353
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 2: Love all that seamous, Okay, before you go, shame is special.

1354
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 2: What do you have for us, buddy?

1355
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 7: Now? I was it's the opening weekend of Gaelic football

1356
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 7: over in the homeland of Ireland. Oh my god, very

1357
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 7: very limited states offering the betting on that. So I'm

1358
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 7: gonna go. Uh been a bit shocking here. Give me

1359
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 7: Georgetown and the Hoyas at the amper the dunk whatever

1360
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 7: it is now Ed Cooley comes back. They got a

1361
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 7: big win over Nova in the last week. Some sharp

1362
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 7: Moneys come in on the Hoyas. I think at Cooley

1363
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 7: gets a little bit of revenge up in Providence today.

1364
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we're going g Town. I love it.

1365
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 2: Relatively normal pick first. I know it's the school I've

1366
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 2: heard of.

1367
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 3: I really wish you found a number of Gaelic football ye.

1368
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 2: Special of all time.

1369
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 7: If it's legal in your state. I think Darry gets

1370
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 7: it done over County Torone today.

1371
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 3: There is.

1372
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 5: We have made history on the show. We have ever

1373
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 5: given out a Gaelic football pick and three years ago.

1374
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 3: That is right.

1375
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 2: You're the best man. Have a good day. We'll catch

1376
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 2: you soon.

1377
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: Have a good one.

1378
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 2: He is Sjamus McGee, team lead of Sports Trading at

1379
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: bet MGM. Great history on Fox Sports.

1380
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 5: That's probably the first time anyone's ever given out a

1381
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 5: Gaelic football pick.

1382
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 2: On any network.

1383
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 3: Here.

1384
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 4: Here's here's how uninformed I am about Ireland. I have

1385
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 4: no idea if by Gaelic football he means soccer or

1386
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 4: actual football. Okay, he means so when he says dary,

1387
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 4: I didn't know whether to tell the joke, Well, they

1388
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 4: got a really dangerous receiver, or hey, they got a

1389
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 4: striker who's we're taking a look at.

1390
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so no clue, that's a he diving deep over there. Hey,

1391
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 2: by the way, all these coaching hires, so we've got

1392
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:50,759
Speaker 2: seven new head coaches, right, one's still open. The Saints

1393
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: job is open. But how about Pete Carroll going to Vegas? Yeah,

1394
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 2: we've got Aaron Glenn going to your Jets there, Jared.

1395
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 2: The one that stands out to me the most is

1396
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 2: Brian Schottenheimer going to the county for bad reasons, right, Yes,

1397
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 2: what are you clowns doing? No? Seriously, like, can we

1398
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 2: rewind before this past season? Why is Mike McCarthy there

1399
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 2: for this whole last season? Like this this franchise. Jerry

1400
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 2: Jones is aching for a super Bowl, right, every time

1401
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 2: we hear him, I gotta win me a super Bowl,

1402
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 2: that whole thing. And then you get Brian Schottenheimer really, Like, again,

1403
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 2: if you're swinging for the fences, Bill Belichick would have

1404
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 2: been your head coach. Yet you're like, no, let's get

1405
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 2: another puppet in here who will do what we say

1406
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 2: and we can pick who we want as far as

1407
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 2: personnel goes. Let's get Shoty in there.

1408
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1409
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: Shot, He's not gonna tell us to you know, jump

1410
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 2: in a river or anything like that. Like, come odd man,

1411
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 2: if you want to win it all and listen, I'll

1412
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 2: be honest, Like, sometimes the the big splash doesn't lead

1413
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 2: to wins. Sometimes the winning the press conference that doesn't

1414
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 2: generate a bunch of wins. I understand that fully. But again,

1415
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 2: Brian shottennai not winning any press conference. It's not a

1416
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: big splash, And what are your chances for big success

1417
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:21,839
Speaker 2: realistically with that freaking guy? Come on, you gotta do better.

1418
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 2: I feel like Lawrence Taylor. Remember the old highlight reels

1419
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 2: of Lawrence Taylor. He hit a Jets quarterback years ago

1420
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 2: and he leaned down and goes, son, y'all gotta do

1421
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 2: better than this. Yeah, And that's exactly how it applies

1422
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 2: to the Cowboys with this hire.

1423
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 4: It is not splashy, It is not sexy. It is

1424
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 4: not wave making, but it's the Dallas Cowboys way because

1425
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 4: it's Jerry's way.

1426
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

1427
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 4: Everything you just said, Brian and I agree with hiring Schottenheimer,

1428
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 4: feels like they missed. However, when Sean McVay was hired

1429
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 4: by the Rams, everybody was like, what you're doing. You're

1430
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 4: handing the keys to an NFL team to a kid.

1431
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 4: I mean, you have older players on the roster, and

1432
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 4: several than Sean McVay right now. When Dan Campbell took

1433
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 4: the job with Detroit, everybody was like, are.

1434
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 3: You kidding me?

1435
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 4: This guy's been an interim head coach outside that, he's

1436
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 4: been an assistant coach. He's been like a tight ends

1437
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 4: coach most of his career. How are you going to

1438
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 4: give him this much responsibility? And look at Dan Campbell now,

1439
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 4: Nick Sirianni even and now again, very different culture that

1440
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 4: has been built in Philadelphia versus the Rams and in Detroit.

1441
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 4: Have much more respect for what has been done in

1442
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 4: LA since McVeigh took over in Campbell and Detroit, but

1443
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:40,799
Speaker 4: you can't argue with the results.

1444
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 3: Sirianni was a controversial higher.

1445
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 4: A lot of people thought he flunked his first opening

1446
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 4: press conference because he did, but you.

1447
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:48,959
Speaker 3: Can't argue with the results.

1448
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 4: He may get his team back to the super Bowl

1449
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 4: after having a Super Bowl appearance a couple of seasons ago.

1450
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:00,560
Speaker 4: So it could work out for Brian Shottenheim and the

1451
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:01,480
Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys.

1452
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 3: Here's the problem, though, Jerry will be in the way.

1453
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 3: There is.

1454
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 4: No limit to Jerry Jones in that organization, and so

1455
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 4: it almost doesn't matter who you hire outside of maybe

1456
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick, because you know, one of the things he

1457
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 4: would have told Jerry on the outset, I'm taking over

1458
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 4: and you need to step out of the way. That's

1459
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 4: the only way you know Belichick would have took that job.

1460
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 4: But outside of Belichick, I mean, basically, you're hiring a

1461
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 4: puppet because that's what Jerry wants.

1462
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 3: He wants somebody who he can control.

1463
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 4: That's what happened with McCarthy, that's what happened with Garrett

1464
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 4: before him, and that's what's gonna happen now with Schottenheimer.

1465
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 3: So it does feel a little bit like the same

1466
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 3: old song and dance.

1467
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, the head coaching hiring is this year. I think

1468
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 2: we're very much on brand with the franchises that hired them,

1469
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 2: and I think that's kind of where we're at. Like,

1470
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 2: for example, the last four coaches for the Cowboys, McCarthy, Garrett,

1471
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 2: Wade Phillips, and Parsons.

1472
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 5: What are those four guys have in common? One one

1473
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 5: of them is not like the other one as a

1474
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 5: head coach. Since the Parcels hiring, it has been And

1475
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 5: I love Wade Phillips, but he's a defensive coordinator. Like

1476
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 5: that's his thing, you know, the Broncos season, Like that's

1477
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 5: his thing. Jason Garrett, Mike McCarty like it just it

1478
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 5: feels like it's a very familiar theme of guys that

1479
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 5: are just good enough to not really make you back

1480
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 5: too many eyelashes, but guys that can be controlled. And

1481
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 5: if you go back to a guy like Belichick, you're

1482
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 5: giving up control.

1483
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 2: I've said this for years. I don't think the Cowboys

1484
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 2: are gonna win another franchise until Jerry relinquishes some of

1485
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 2: that control. And we'll see when he does if he does.

1486
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 3: This is a this is a.

1487
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 2: Hiring that is not gonna move the needle. I really

1488
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 2: don't have much to add. I mean, you guys nailed it,

1489
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 2: Like it's just not gonna move the needle. It It's

1490
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 2: just like, you know, you're putting a guy in that's

1491
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 2: a placeholder, and he's gonna do his thing for a

1492
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 2: couple of years until until Jerry decides to move on.

1493
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't really know what else to say. Well,

1494
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 2: this to me, we do this with players all the time.

1495
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 2: Why don't we do it with coaches? If you have

1496
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 2: if we have huge questions about you as an offensive coordinator,

1497
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 2: like how are you now moving beyond that as a

1498
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 2: head coach?

1499
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1500
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 2: It would be like a college quarterback and we have

1501
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 2: huge questions. There are huge holes in his game, noticeable flaws,

1502
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 2: and he's picked to be the starting quarterback. You're like,

1503
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 2: oh no, that's gonna work out. Like think about your

1504
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 2: your Jets, Jared. When he was the offensive coordinator, it

1505
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 2: was a freaking disaster. Disaster like horrible play calling, awful

1506
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,599
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1508
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Speaker 2: So many prop bet opportunities. Well, I look to fade

1521
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,839
Speaker 2: Saquan at the wrong time yet again.

1522
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 3: A bride you are?

1523
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 4: You're on the struggle bus, my friend man, good lordes wow, all.

1524
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Speaker 3: Good. Prop it up? Player plays all.

1532
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 2: Right, shared, we start with you, what's a prop bet

1533
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 2: that you are all over the here?

1534
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 5: Well, I'll go back to what we were talking about

1535
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 5: earlier in the show, and I think you know, the

1536
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 5: market is pretty set this time of year. It's hard

1537
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 5: to find value, so you have to look to places

1538
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 5: where other people are kind.

1539
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 2: Of poopooing and naysaying. And nobody's poo pooing anyone more

1540
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 2: this week than Jalen Hurts.

1541
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 5: I mean, it just seems like this guy is an

1542
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 5: afterthought in in every prop market when it comes to

1543
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 5: this game. I know the rushing number probably is not

1544
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 5: something you want to look at because of the knee brace,

1545
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 5: but in his passing yards prompt that one ninety, I

1546
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 5: mean that is comically low for a team with AJ

1547
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 5: Brown or yeah, AJ Brown at DeVante Smith and just

1548
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 5: an embarrassment of Richard's at the offensive skill position.

1549
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 2: So I think Jalen Hurts.

1550
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 5: Maybe the game script clips negative, right, maybe the commander

1551
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 5: stake a lead, but just in general, I think the

1552
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 5: number is low and everyone's going against the Jalen Hurts

1553
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 5: narrative and he gets the face man coverage, which he's

1554
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 5: a top ten quarterback, against this year.

1555
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 2: So I go Jalen hurts over.

1556
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 5: One hundred and ninety and a half passing or ladder

1557
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 5: that sucker up to like two fifty.

1558
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 2: Come on, get some plus money on the board too,

1559
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 2: all Right, I like it.

1560
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 4: You know who else I like is Josh Allen, and

1561
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 4: I trust him in big games to play big. Josh

1562
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 4: Allen is gonna be involved in a shootout, I think

1563
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 4: against the Kansas City Chiefs. That's the way I see

1564
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 4: this game going in the AFC Championship. I think it's

1565
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 4: gonna be a high scoring affair, and we called upon,

1566
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 4: especially against a very talented defense which the Chiefs have,

1567
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 4: one of the NFL's top top defense is certainly the

1568
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 4: best left in the field the four teams remaining. I

1569
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 4: think he's gonna have to get it done on the ground.

1570
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 4: So forty six and a half rushing for Josh Allen, give.

1571
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 3: Me the over.

1572
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 4: I think if the Bills are gonna run with the

1573
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 4: Chiefs or have a chance to beat the Chiefs, it's

1574
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 4: gonna rely on Josh Allen creating outside.

1575
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 3: The pocket or some planed QB run.

1576
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 4: So forty six and a half give me the over

1577
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:16,759
Speaker 4: on Josh Allen's rushing problem.

1578
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not on the opposite side of Charott, but

1579
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 2: I'm not exactly on the same side. If that makes

1580
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 2: any sense, where listen it could work out where both

1581
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 2: are correct. I'm on Saquon Barkley over twenty three and

1582
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 2: a half rushing attempts because of the matchup. Washington's rush

1583
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 2: defense is one of the worst in the league. They're

1584
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 2: thirtieth against the rush. It would be a mortal football

1585
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 2: sin to not give Saquon the ball over and over

1586
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 2: and over and over again. And so I look at this.

1587
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 2: Look at the postseason. He had twenty five carries against

1588
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 2: the Packers. He had twenty six carries last week against

1589
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 2: the Rams, and that's with a couple of long touchdown runs.

1590
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 2: He's still got twenty six rushing attempts. These are not

1591
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens who just conveniently forget, Hey, you know what,

1592
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 2: we should run the ball. That's actually what we do

1593
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 2: a really good job of The Eagles are like, feed Saquon,

1594
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 2: feed saque feed him some more. He's not full yet,

1595
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 2: so I expect him to get over twenty three and

1596
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 2: a half rushing attempts again. If you've got the trump card.

1597
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 2: If you're playing cards and you have the trump card,

1598
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you play it?

1599
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 3: Right?

1600
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 2: The trump card in this game is Saquon Barkley running

1601
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 2: the football, So feed him. I've got him over twenty

1602
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 2: three and a half rushing attempts.

1603
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 5: I would assume dan Quinn knows that too. And that's

1604
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 5: where I'm thinking. If we get a lot of eight

1605
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 5: man boxes in this game, and Jalen looks to the

1606
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 5: right and he sees aj Brown, and he looks to

1607
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 5: the left and he sees Devonte Smith and he's got

1608
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 5: one on one coverage on the outside, you could.

1609
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 3: Both be right.

1610
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 5: You could both be We could both be right because

1611
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 5: we USh gamescript flips positive for the Eagles after they

1612
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 5: get some big passing plays.

1613
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

1614
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 2: The other question is Jalen hurts. How healthy is he?

1615
01:19:59,600 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 7: You know?

1616
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 2: How many zone reads is Jalen keeping?

1617
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 3: Not many?

1618
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 5: And that's why let the attempts prop over the yards

1619
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 5: for shake Quard.

1620
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 2: We go very nice. Yeah, all right, the previews roll forward. Man,

1621
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 2: this team has got to make it only about one game.

1622
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 2: Easier said than done. Oh what is going on? Happy

1623
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 2: Saturday to you as we get you all set for

1624
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 2: championship Sunday. I guess we could get you set for

1625
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 2: hoops as well. We've got pacers and spurs tipping off

1626
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 2: in less than an hour. We've got a man look

1627
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 2: at the early the early slate of college basketball. Have

1628
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 2: you guys seen this?

1629
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 5: It's it's stacked. I think I'm in that transition mode. Well,

1630
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,639
Speaker 5: this is like the first week I really start that transition.

1631
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 2: If we're looking right at noon Eastern time when we

1632
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 2: get off the air, not stacked later in the day. Sure,

1633
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 2: but when we get off the air, we're looking at

1634
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: that big Campbell Hofstra tilt. You know, we've got North

1635
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 2: Carolina against Stony Brook, and then it's highlighted by SMU

1636
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 2: NC State, Like, how are these are noon games? I

1637
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 2: don't get it. There's some great games in college basketball today,

1638
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 2: but not right when we get off the ear. I

1639
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 2: don't understand why it's like that.

1640
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think, like Jared said, I think

1641
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,719
Speaker 4: it is a little bit of a slow roll into

1642
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 4: college basketball as the NFL season fades. And so I

1643
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 4: don't know, smarter people than me are in charge of scheduling.

1644
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 3: Maybe somebody had some foresight, But.

1645
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I find scheduling in general, like where broadcasts, partners

1646
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 4: or you know, leagues or college football or basketball play

1647
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 4: certain games or certain matchups, especially when you know there's

1648
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 4: gonna be a significant amount of hype based on the preseason.

1649
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 4: How some of these matchups get landed where they are

1650
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 4: on the schedule.

1651
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 2: It's weird, yeah, because last week we get off the air,

1652
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:59,799
Speaker 2: we had Kentucky hosting Alabama right in a freaking track.

1653
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 2: You know that would get Campbell Hofstra. The opposite of that.

1654
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 5: Later today is Houston in Kansas with a scintillating total

1655
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 5: of one twenty six.

1656
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:14,839
Speaker 2: Houston. The defense they play, Oh, it's suffocating through love defense.

1657
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 2: Watch the Houston. That's the game for you. That'll be

1658
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 2: a fun one too.

1659
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 5: We know the Big twelve is obviously different now, but

1660
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 5: Houston in the Big twelve is a different animal.

1661
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 2: And the Jayhawks also, you talk about defense, they're getting

1662
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 2: after it as well, no doubt.

1663
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 5: LSU Bamma later Tennessee Auburn, good sec matchups tonight. This

1664
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 5: is good again. I think college basketball when you get

1665
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 5: into this mode where you're you know, more of a

1666
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 5: recreational college basketball gambler like myself. I focus on the

1667
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 5: top twenty fives, but I pick one really two conferences

1668
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 5: that I focus in on Mountain Western Horizon, and I don't.

1669
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 2: Really worry about the rest. There's just so many games.

1670
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 2: There's so much. It's just like drinking from a fire hose.

1671
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah there is. I think there are half a billion

1672
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 2: games on tap today.

1673
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 4: I was just I scrolled through the list. You know

1674
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 4: how you do that like long, you know, finger bumb flick.

1675
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 3: I mean it's still strollings. Yeah.

1676
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got the suckers out bud.

1677
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the Geico commercial, like I overdid it right,

1678
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 2: You have to get the index finger massaged. Yeah, that's

1679
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 2: the college basketball slate, all right. We got Bills Chiefs.

1680
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 2: Chiefs favored by two points. Total is forty eight and

1681
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 2: a half. It seems like deja vu from last week.

1682
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 2: We were just talking about this fellas where you look

1683
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 2: at the Texans taking on the Chiefs. It applies even

1684
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 2: more to the Buffalo Bills, where we all agreed it's

1685
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:42,440
Speaker 2: just about this game, right. It's there's this Mahomes mystique,

1686
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 2: there's Andy Reid, there's all this playoff success. They're in

1687
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 2: the AFC Championship game for the seventh straight year. Wow,

1688
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 2: that's what the Chiefs have done. And then you add

1689
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 2: to it all these Bills playoff failures against the Chiefs.

1690
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 2: I love this. At Oliver with the Bills. He said

1691
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 2: he can still see the confetti falling when the Chiefs

1692
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 2: won the twenty twenty AFC championship game against the Bills,

1693
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 2: which I totally believe. But that's my thing is this

1694
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 2: isn't about last year with Tyler Bass missing a kick.

1695
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 2: This isn't about the thirteen seconds left on the clock

1696
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 2: game that the Bills somehow lost. It's not about the

1697
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty AFC title game. It's not about any of that.

1698
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 2: It's about tomorrow and that alone. And I think that's

1699
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 2: a huge challenge for the Bills, is to not make

1700
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 2: the game bigger than it is. When you're thinking about

1701
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 2: all these other pass games and you press it, it's

1702
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a challenge for them to

1703
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 2: we said it, like play the game down, like keep

1704
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 2: it smaller, not build it up to be bigger than

1705
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 2: it is. They're gonna have to absolutely guard against that.

1706
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 2: I feel like.

1707
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 4: What you just said about at Oliver, I had a

1708
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 4: visceral memory because what he What he said is actually

1709
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 4: actually one hundred percent accurate. You'll never forget certain moments

1710
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 4: after a crushing loss and the confetti in Indianapolis when

1711
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 4: the Giants beat us in the Super Bowl. I'll never

1712
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 4: forget watching the confetti and thinking to myself, I bet

1713
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 4: they saved money on this because we have basically the

1714
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 4: same colored confetti, the Giants and the.

1715
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 3: Patriots, you know what I mean, that was the thought.

1716
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 4: You know, I'm like, look, I'm watching it rain down

1717
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 4: from the rafters and then your eyes, you know, are

1718
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 4: following some of the pieces falling, and then you're watching

1719
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 4: the stage get assembled and Giants players hugging the people

1720
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 4: who love them the most on the field, and you know,

1721
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 4: you know, they're they're I mean, they're they're doing what

1722
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 4: they should do. They're proud of themselves, and they're patting

1723
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 4: each other on the back, and they're getting ready to

1724
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 4: take that stage and hoist the Lombardi Trophy, and the

1725
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 4: bottom of your belly falls out like you feel gutted,

1726
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 4: and it is one of the worst most demoralizing feelings

1727
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 4: in the world because everything led up to that, and

1728
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 4: you fell a couple plays short in our case, and

1729
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 4: in many cases super Bowl game. Super Bowls are usually

1730
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 4: tight games. You fall short and it stings, and it

1731
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:23,759
Speaker 4: sits with you for a long time. I was fortunate

1732
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 4: I played a six year careerros on teams that went

1733
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 4: to the playoffs four times. There are certain guys who

1734
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 4: play much longer careers and never even get a bite

1735
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 4: at the apple. So I'm not sitting here throwing a

1736
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 4: pity party for myself. But what you said is right.

1737
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 4: You have to, even knowing all of that, if you

1738
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 4: get another chance at dancing, you gotta somehow try to

1739
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 4: make it small. You gotta somehow try to tighten up

1740
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 4: the aperture, the lens on your camera to only see

1741
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 4: what you need to do in the moment, because if

1742
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 4: you try to take in the full picture, you are

1743
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 4: going to come completely shut down. So, whether it's the

1744
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills, you know players realizing oh my god, here

1745
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 4: we are again.

1746
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 3: We get we get another chance, guys who were there the.

1747
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 4: Last time, or you're the Chiefs players who have an

1748
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 4: opportunity to three peat something the world has never seen before.

1749
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 3: You got to find a way to play this game small.

1750
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, this has been a weird week for me with

1751
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 2: this game. I think the Eagles commander's game.

1752
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 5: I have a much better grasp on scheme and kind

1753
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 5: of because we've had two meetings and you know which

1754
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,480
Speaker 5: coaching staff is kind of better suited to make those adjustments.

1755
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 5: I've got the emoji with my hands to the air

1756
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 5: here with this game, really, and it's a pick them game.

1757
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 5: I think if you if you zoomed out and looked

1758
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 5: at the postseason as a whole, the regular season as

1759
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 5: a whole, I think it's very fair to say the

1760
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 5: Bills deserve to get the market respected they're getting.

1761
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it.

1762
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 5: The Chiefs are the two time defending champs, they have

1763
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 5: got at quarterback, best coach.

1764
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 2: Ever, and they're laying less than a field goal in

1765
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 2: this game. Mm like at home in.

1766
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 5: The AC Championship game, a game that they have dominated

1767
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 5: over the last what seven years.

1768
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 2: They've been in it.

1769
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 5: It just it feels like the market wants me to

1770
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 5: bet the Chiefs here. Okay, but then you look at

1771
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 5: the other side and you're like, yeah, Buffalo has got

1772
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 5: this laser focus. I mean, they they did everything they

1773
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 5: needed to do to win against Baltimore.

1774
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 2: They didn't do too much.

1775
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 5: They didn't do not enough, right, It was like the

1776
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 5: Three Bears Porridge, they did just enough. And I think

1777
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 5: that in the playoffs matters, and where the Chiefs are

1778
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 5: right now, they're not playing Like if you ask me,

1779
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 5: forget about the playoffs, forget about the Mahomes greatness, forget

1780
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 5: about all the mystique, and you just line these teams

1781
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 5: up in a vacuum and said, who's playing better.

1782
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 2: Football right now?

1783
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 5: I don't think anyone bats an eye and says the Bills.

1784
01:28:55,720 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 5: But then you have to add in this magical mystique

1785
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 5: element that is really really, really hard to quantify and

1786
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 5: handicap that makes me want to bet the Chiefs. So

1787
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 5: I'm kind of again hands in the air. Is it

1788
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 5: gonna be the dragons and the lore and the great

1789
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 5: Game of Thrones mystique or is it gonna be the

1790
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 5: team that's playing cleaner, better.

1791
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 2: Football at the right time. Tough decision. Well, a couple

1792
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 2: of things. The first thing is, I think this is

1793
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 2: one of the Chiefs' biggest advantages. We were just talking

1794
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:36,879
Speaker 2: about the Bills and not making this game tomorrow bigger

1795
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 2: and lumping in the past losses with it, you know

1796
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like question the Bills they might be

1797
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 2: thinking about last year, or the thirteen seconds game, or

1798
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 2: maybe the twenty twenty AFC title game. There are thirteen

1799
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 2: players that were around for all three of those playoff

1800
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 2: losses still on the roster. Those players might be thinking

1801
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 2: of that. You think the Chiefs are You think the

1802
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 2: Chiefs are thinking about anything but tomorrow. They're solely focused

1803
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 2: on tomorrow. They're not thinking about last year or the

1804
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 2: previous year. They're not thinking of any of that, And

1805
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 2: so I think that's a huge advantage for the Chiefs.

1806
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 2: I think that's where the Bills need to get where

1807
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 2: it is only about this Sunday and not previous Sundays

1808
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,520
Speaker 2: where they went down to the Chiefs in the playoffs,

1809
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 2: and a couple other things. If you look at the Chiefs,

1810
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 2: they're not turning the ball over. The last time they

1811
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 2: turned the football over was in Week eleven against Buffalo.

1812
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 2: They've gone eight straight games, including the playoffs, not turning

1813
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:37,519
Speaker 2: the football over. And the last thing I'll say is this,

1814
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is freaking money. And this is how I

1815
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 2: think of betting. If I make a bet and if

1816
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 2: I lose that bet, I would hope my reaction is

1817
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 2: a shoulder shrug, and I say that's betting compared to

1818
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 2: what the hell was I think, you know what I mean, Like,

1819
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 2: I'm not going to think that if I bet the

1820
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 2: Chiefs and they come up short, I'm not gonna think

1821
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 2: that at all. And I would rather take that option

1822
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 2: going in.

1823
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 4: What you just said about the Patrick Mahomes led Chiefs

1824
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,719
Speaker 4: is the whole story. The fact that since the Bills

1825
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 4: game in the regular season they haven't turned it over.

1826
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 4: I mean, it just shows you. It just shows you

1827
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 4: what makes them special. The Chiefs are going to force

1828
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 4: you to make the mistake that crushes you.

1829
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1830
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 4: I compared Lamar Jackson to ice cream earlier, you know,

1831
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 4: I say, he's like a delicious ice cream cone.

1832
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 3: I can't say anything bad about ice cream. I love

1833
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 3: ice cream.

1834
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 4: But when you have ice cream in the sun, the

1835
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 4: sun always wins. And so when you have an impossible

1836
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 4: force that you're facing, it doesn't matter how great of

1837
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 4: a a a quantity you have.

1838
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 3: There's a greater quantity waiting for you.

1839
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:01,599
Speaker 4: Like the Chiefs are the sun in that Lamar Jackson,

1840
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 4: how many times have we seen him against Patty Mahomes

1841
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 4: and the Chiefs make the mistake that Costs his team

1842
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 4: or the Baltimore Ravens. I mean same with the Buffalo Bills.

1843
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 4: I mean, the Buffalo Bills look like war Daddy's baby.

1844
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 4: I mean they are an incredible team out of the AFC.

1845
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 4: Josh Allen is playing football like an MVP this year.

1846
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 4: If it weren't for Lamar Jackson, he would be a

1847
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 4: shoeing to win the award. It's probably going Lamar. He'll

1848
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 4: probably three peat. But I digress to prove the point.

1849
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 4: He's incredible. Josh Allen and the Bills are incredible. But

1850
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 4: when you take a lion out of the jungle and

1851
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 4: you put him in Manhattan, they look out of place.

1852
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 4: I mean because guess what, we'll capture that sucker. We'll

1853
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,680
Speaker 4: put him in a zoo. And that's what happens. When

1854
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 4: you face the Chiefs. It doesn't matter how good you

1855
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:51,719
Speaker 4: are out of your natural habitat on their home field

1856
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 4: at Arrowhead Stadium, that place rockin an AFC Championship game

1857
01:32:56,600 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 4: where this is their seven straight time hosting this game.

1858
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Good luck?

1859
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:06,520
Speaker 4: I mean, because you could be as fierce a predator

1860
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:10,759
Speaker 4: in your jungle, it's tough to win in Chiefs Kingdom.

1861
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 3: M hmm.

1862
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 5: I like what Brian said because I that's why I'm

1863
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 5: betting the Chiefs in this game, and I bet the

1864
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 5: Chiefs earlier this week. Is because when I look in

1865
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 5: the mirror on Monday morning and I bet the Bills

1866
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 5: and the Chiefs win, I'm like, what was I thinking

1867
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 5: than a field goal with Patrick Mahomes.

1868
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 2: At home and it's the title game.

1869
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 5: But if I bet the Chiefs and they lose, I

1870
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 5: look myself in the mirror Monday morning and I wake

1871
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 5: up and I say, you know what, you bet on

1872
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 5: the guy that is the magician, the wizard and he

1873
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 5: ran out of magic.

1874
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 2: It's okay.

1875
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 4: It's the scene in Goodwill Hunting you you are playing

1876
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 4: Robin Williams to your own Matt Gamon, where if the

1877
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 4: Chiefs do lose, you're saying in the mirror, it's not

1878
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 4: your fault.

1879
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 2: I'm content that the two time defending champs. What else

1880
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 2: can I do?

1881
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 3: You did all you could do. It's not your fault.

1882
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not gonna do it's them. You're not gonna

1883
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 2: beat yourself up if you bet the Chiefs and that

1884
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:11,679
Speaker 2: ends up being the wrong side.

1885
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 5: I'd rather lose with the goat than lose against the

1886
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 5: goat like that. That's the lesser of the two evils.

1887
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 5: If you have to lose a bet, I'd rather lose.

1888
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 5: I'd rather be on the Titanic playing the playing the

1889
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 5: music as it's going down, with Mahomes as my captain,

1890
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 5: knowing that if he can't win, then I had no shot.

1891
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I would only push back on the goat thing,

1892
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 2: you know, that's only Yeah, maybe he's not the goat.

1893
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 2: I think he's got You're right, it's not the goat.

1894
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 2: He's God Jesus, he's the goat. Apprentice is what I'll

1895
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 2: call him right now. He's got apprentice.

1896
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 5: Is there another goat? I mean, I'm obviously strictly speaking

1897
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 5: quarterback NFL. I don't want to get into the NBA

1898
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 5: Lebron Michael georganas.

1899
01:34:57,439 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, is there a quarterback you put ahead of him

1900
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 2: right now? Ahead of absolutely the guy who beat him

1901
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:04,599
Speaker 2: twice in the playoffs including the Super Bowl. That's fair.

1902
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Tom Brady's my greatest of all.

1903
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 2: Right, you're right, you're right, you're right, But.

1904
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 4: I will say, but I will say, and you know,

1905
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 4: if we're all in agreement, it's not even where it's saying,

1906
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 4: but Patrick Mahomes, though, what he's done to this point

1907
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 4: in his career, if there's anybody who could topple Tom

1908
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 4: at the top, it's gonna have to be him, because well,

1909
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 4: we'll really never see anybody who's how to start like

1910
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 4: this again, I mean Patrick Mahomes. It's when you pointed

1911
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 4: that out Brian earlier, that he's been to seven straight

1912
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 4: AFC Championship games.

1913
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 3: Wild.

1914
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 4: It's just I don't even know. You can't quantify that,

1915
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:44,599
Speaker 4: so you just you just have to sit back.

1916
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 2: Does he have to win more titles than Tom to

1917
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 2: be the goat? Brian? Like, are we grading on a curve?

1918
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 5: Well, because I agree with you, he's not the goat yet.

1919
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 5: Tom is currently the goat. But I think the path

1920
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 5: for Mahomes is there to be Well, I.

1921
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:59,719
Speaker 2: Think, Jared, I think that if he's not gonna surpass Brady,

1922
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 2: and he's got to surpass him in other categories, sure,

1923
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:05,559
Speaker 2: and one category would be a three pat a three

1924
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 2: peat unprecedented. Yes, nobody's done that player team in the

1925
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 2: history of the NFL. If he's able to do that

1926
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 2: and he ends up with I don't know, five or

1927
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 2: six rings and has all these individual you could make

1928
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 2: an argument, you can, but if he's not gonna get

1929
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,639
Speaker 2: to seven, you gotta do some stuff that Tom Brady

1930
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:26,880
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1931
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:30,600
Speaker 2: That's why I'm not betting against the Chiefs tomorrow. Yeah, Yeah,

1932
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 2: that'd be a huge. He's gotta lose first.

1933
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 5: I gotta see it against somebody not named Joe Bora

1934
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:36,599
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1935
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1936
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Speaker 3: Okay?

1955
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 2: Is there a bigger question mark in Championship Sunday than

1956
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts? Now, Jalen Hurts has got the knee injury right?

1957
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 2: So is he healthy? Is he running? Is he productive?

1958
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 3: Like?

1959
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 2: Those are pretty big question marks and he could answer

1960
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:55,719
Speaker 2: all of them in flying colors.

1961
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1962
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 2: But is there anybody else? I'll throw a couple of

1963
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:03,600
Speaker 2: names out there. James Cook, Bill's running back. How effective

1964
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 2: is the Bill's running game against the Chiefs? That's gonna

1965
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 2: be a big, big deal. And James Cook has been

1966
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 2: very good in the playoffs. He had a huge game

1967
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 2: the first game against Denver, ran for one hundred and

1968
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 2: twenty yards in a touchdown. Good game last week against

1969
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,800
Speaker 2: the Ravens sixty seven yards rushing against the number one

1970
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 2: ranked rush defense. That's pretty good. So how effective is

1971
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:30,640
Speaker 2: James Cook in that Bill's running game? Another name Isaiah Pacheco?

1972
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,600
Speaker 2: Is he gonna contribute? He was a big part of

1973
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 2: their success. His rushing prop bet is at thirty one

1974
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 2: and a half yards, like, that's where he's at right now.

1975
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 2: But I still would have Jalen Hurts number one on

1976
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 2: the question list. You guys, what do you think?

1977
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 3: Rich? All right, so.

1978
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Jaden Daniels name out loud here and

1979
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 4: duck a little bit?

1980
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 2: Okay?

1981
01:38:55,320 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 4: Number one defense? Yeah, hey, but the Eagles, that's the thing.

1982
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 4: Been here, A lot of these players know what this

1983
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 4: is all about. A lot of those defenders have played

1984
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 4: in an NFC championship game. I understand that Jalen Hurts

1985
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 4: has banged up, but he's been here before. I mean,

1986
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:18,600
Speaker 4: he's played under this pressure and Jayden Daniels has not.

1987
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 3: So I get it, and I'm with it.

1988
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 4: I understand injuries matter, they matter, but experience in the

1989
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 4: postseason matters too.

1990
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:32,600
Speaker 3: So am I worried about Josh Allen? No? Am I

1991
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 3: worried about Patrick Mahomes? No, obviously not.

1992
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 4: Am I worried about Jellen Hurts honestly, if he says

1993
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 4: he's ready to play, No, I'm not worried about him,

1994
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:43,520
Speaker 4: you know what, I am worried about the untested quantity

1995
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 4: in a huge moment like this. You are a game

1996
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:50,440
Speaker 4: away from playing in the Super Bowl as a rookie.

1997
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 3: Good luck, rook good luck. Yeah.

1998
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 5: I actually agree with rich on this, and I'll give

1999
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 5: you a couple of reasons why. Okay, First of all,

2000
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 5: I do think the matchup for Jalen Hurts is significantly better.

2001
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:07,440
Speaker 5: Completely agree with that. Like the Rams and the Packers.

2002
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 5: First of all, they play the exact style of defense

2003
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 5: that makes Jalen Hurts a little bit queasy, which is

2004
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 5: zone read it multiple different windows you've got to try

2005
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 5: to throw to and then find the right spot. The

2006
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 5: man coverage that predominantly Washington plays is much more I'll

2007
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 5: call it palatable for Jalen Hurts's appetite. I think there's

2008
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 5: gonna be more opportunities for him to push the ball

2009
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 5: down the field and make a one red throw one

2010
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:39,519
Speaker 5: side of the field. Man coverage there it is Aj Brown,

2011
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:43,479
Speaker 5: Devonte Smith, Dallas Goddard, go make plays. I think on

2012
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 5: the other side, you get a Washington offensive line that

2013
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 5: is now without their best offensive lineman, Sam Cosmi, who

2014
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 5: is a He's only given up one sack all year.

2015
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:55,400
Speaker 2: I mean that's really good.

2016
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 5: And I would say the strength of the Eagles is

2017
01:40:58,200 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 5: their defensive front.

2018
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 2: What is the strength of the Lions? Not their defensive front?

2019
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 2: Right not now? Maybe you know twelve weeks ago. So

2020
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:08,599
Speaker 2: it just it.

2021
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:12,639
Speaker 5: Feels like the narrative is really negative against Jalen Hurts.

2022
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 5: And Warren Buffett always said when there's blood in the streets,

2023
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:18,640
Speaker 5: that's when you buy. And if there's a lot of

2024
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:22,080
Speaker 5: negativity about Jalen Hurts and there's a lot of positivity

2025
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:25,719
Speaker 5: about Jaden Daniels, the market's kind of telling you, hey,

2026
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:28,640
Speaker 5: maybe you buy on Jaden, but you're not getting a

2027
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 5: good price. If you want to buy Jalen Hurts is

2028
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 5: the one you buy this week?

2029
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 2: Well, if you do the Jalen Hurts Jaden Daniels thing,

2030
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 2: no doubt, styles make fights, you know, and who you're

2031
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 2: going up against is a big deal. The other part

2032
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 2: of that is who's going to need to do more right?

2033
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:54,839
Speaker 2: Like Jayden Daniels. His lead running back is Brian Robinson Junior,

2034
01:41:55,160 --> 01:42:02,160
Speaker 2: whose rushing prop is a thirty five and a half rush. Okay,

2035
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 2: I got Jalen Hurts. He's got Saquon Barkley in the

2036
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:10,679
Speaker 2: MVP conversation rush for over two thousand yards. Saquon's rushing

2037
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 2: prop is one twenty five.

2038
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:13,959
Speaker 3: You are.

2039
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 2: So like, there's a legitimate question of how much is

2040
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:22,680
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts gonna have to do right like compared to

2041
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels. What are the chances that the running game

2042
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:30,560
Speaker 2: is just taking all these responsibilities off of Jaden Daniels

2043
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 2: plate like slim to none like. For for Washington to

2044
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:38,600
Speaker 2: be successful, to move the ball, score points, Jaden Daniels

2045
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 2: has to be the guy. He just has to be,

2046
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 2: And there's a great possibility Jalen Hurts won't need to be.

2047
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:47,759
Speaker 3: I agree, I one agree.

2048
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 4: I think the pressure, if we're talking about just pressure,

2049
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 4: it lays squarely on Jaden Daniel's shoulders. He's done so

2050
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 4: much for this team. He is the living and actual

2051
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 4: heartbeat of the right now, whether he realizes or not.

2052
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 4: Because that's the other thing is, sometimes it's to your

2053
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:13,520
Speaker 4: benefit to lack experience because you don't realize how important

2054
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 4: you are to what's happening. He may not realize it

2055
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 4: yet now, he's a pretty bright guy. And obviously, when

2056
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 4: we discussed Jayden Daniels coming out of LSU, you know

2057
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 4: how I felt about him, I said then, And it's

2058
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 4: proven out over the course of this season that he's

2059
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 4: the most NFL ready quarterback. And he was out of

2060
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 4: this year's draft class, and it was a big one.

2061
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 4: We had six NFL or excuse me, college quarterbacks drafted

2062
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 4: into the NFL in twelve picks. So I mean, that's

2063
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 4: substantial in its own right. That's substantial. And then the

2064
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 4: fact that he's appearing in an NFC championship game is

2065
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:53,720
Speaker 4: just otherworldly. So what you don't know can be a

2066
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 4: benefit to you. But he's played in big games. He

2067
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 4: understands what's happening. He's done what we've all done in

2068
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 4: our backyards and counted down the seconds before trying to

2069
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 4: make the big shot. You're there now, Bud, You're on

2070
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 4: that stage. What are you gonna do with this opportunity?

2071
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:17,440
Speaker 4: And it's really difficult to keep all of those emotions

2072
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 4: under control.

2073
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 3: Your first go round.

2074
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 4: And so I remember when I watched Jalen Hurtz, who

2075
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 4: played an excellent game against the Chiefs in the Super

2076
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 4: Bowl and thinking, man, this is tough. I mean, every

2077
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 4: single moment matters in this game. He's playing excellent, but

2078
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:34,679
Speaker 4: then boom there it was. Remember he fumbled that football.

2079
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:37,080
Speaker 4: It was like a bobbled snap or something like that.

2080
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 4: Chiefs recovered. He played a perfect game except for that mistake,

2081
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:42,400
Speaker 4: and it proved costly.

2082
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 3: And that's my point about Jayden Daniels.

2083
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 4: All it takes is one of those against the defense

2084
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 4: as fierce as the Eagles, and as a rookie, we'll

2085
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 4: see if he has a mistake like that and Ken

2086
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 4: have the bounce back ability, Ken make up for it

2087
01:44:58,200 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 4: in the game, It's difficult to do.

2088
01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the big focus this week for me

2089
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:07,639
Speaker 5: was the Eagles defense against Jadeen Daniels and Vic Fangio, really,

2090
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 5: who is a guy that I think, you know, gets

2091
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 5: a lot of buzz, but I think needs to continue

2092
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:13,600
Speaker 5: to get buzz. Like if you were gonna ask me,

2093
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 5: what's the story after the game, Like what's the headline

2094
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:21,719
Speaker 5: after the game, It's Eagles defense finally solves the jade

2095
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:24,760
Speaker 5: and Daniels explosion. Like you know, Vic Fangio makes the

2096
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:28,760
Speaker 5: right adjustments and keeps this commander's offense in check and

2097
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 5: it allows the Eagles to kind of play their game,

2098
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 5: which is just to lean and lean and lean, and

2099
01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 5: then eventually Saquon pops one and then you're down two

2100
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 5: scores late. So I think if you go back and

2101
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:40,760
Speaker 5: look at the last match up from week sixteen, they

2102
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 5: didn't play any man coverage until the seventh drive of

2103
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 5: the game, which was when the Eagles already had a lead.

2104
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 2: So essentially vic Fangio was just kind.

2105
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:51,639
Speaker 5: Of soft, soft coverage, zone, zone zone, and then they

2106
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:54,320
Speaker 5: got a lead and then boom Man blitzes off the edge. Like,

2107
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 5: I think there's going to be a change up and

2108
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 5: how the Commanders handle the empty if they run a

2109
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:02,720
Speaker 5: lot of empty, because that was when they really had

2110
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 5: success in the second half of the game against Philly

2111
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 5: back in week sixteen, they went empty.

2112
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 2: Jade Daniels had a big pocket up the middle.

2113
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:10,880
Speaker 5: He started to use his legs a lot more and

2114
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:13,839
Speaker 5: Philly just didn't counter that in time. Well, now Kingsbury

2115
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 5: shown him that, and now vic Fango's had plenty of

2116
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:19,600
Speaker 5: time and obviously a couple of data points against this

2117
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:20,920
Speaker 5: team to kind of adjust to that.

2118
01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:22,679
Speaker 2: So to be curious to see how they play.

2119
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 5: The running game if they, you know, put a middle

2120
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 5: linebacker in the box. But I think the Nikobe Dean

2121
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 5: injury matters. I think that when I watched the film

2122
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 5: from week sixteen, that was the guy that stood out

2123
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:31,599
Speaker 5: on tape the most.

2124
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 3: To me.

2125
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 2: Nikobe Dean was just everywhere on the field.

2126
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 5: Now, Bond's taking a nice step forward since then, so

2127
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 5: that'll be I think a linebacker that the Eagles need

2128
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 5: to play really well. But how the Nikobe Dean injury

2129
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:45,599
Speaker 5: impacts how some of that zone coverage looks underneath for Fanjo,

2130
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:46,880
Speaker 5: I think is gonna be huge in this game.

2131
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 2: Okay, fellas, are worn't a pretty good game?

2132
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 3: Right?

2133
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 2: You're mentioning the rushing yards, Jared, And it's important here.

2134
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 2: So if you look at all four quarterbacks still in

2135
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:59,439
Speaker 2: the playoffs, they're all a threat with their legs right

2136
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:04,800
Speaker 2: rushing the ball. So if you go one through four,

2137
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 2: most rushing yards all the way down to the least

2138
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 2: rushing yards, we'll start with you, Rich. I'm gonna jot

2139
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:16,639
Speaker 2: these down. Okay, you get five points for each correct slot. Okay,

2140
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:19,919
Speaker 2: we'll see who has the most points between Jayden Daniels,

2141
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:24,559
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes. How do you how

2142
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:26,720
Speaker 2: do you slot them in terms of who will rush

2143
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 2: for the most yards all the way down to the least.

2144
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna say gosh, because he I feel

2145
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 4: like he's gonna have to Jayden Daniels top of my list.

2146
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 2: Even though you hate him? All right, good, I don't

2147
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:42,760
Speaker 2: hate him. I love them.

2148
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 3: You know what?

2149
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:46,559
Speaker 4: I love Jayden Daniels. I and I mean it, and

2150
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:47,759
Speaker 4: I really do mean it.

2151
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 2: Is he played in the USFL this spring, I don't.

2152
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 4: Know, yeah, honestly, Yeah, I mean it's a tune up league,

2153
01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 4: and I see a lot of places he could actually approve. No,

2154
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 4: I uh so, Jaden Daniels, if the Commanders are gonna

2155
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 4: have success, it's going to be predicated on him getting

2156
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:07,640
Speaker 4: them out of trouble. And I think they're gonna be

2157
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:09,600
Speaker 4: in some trouble against that Eagles defense. So give me

2158
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels at the top number two. Yeah. Oh, do

2159
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 4: we want to just go around and talk about our

2160
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 4: top or do we wanna give our top four real quick?

2161
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 2: Get the top four? Go ahead, Okay, go top four.

2162
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:20,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Jaden Daniels.

2163
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:26,640
Speaker 4: Josh Allen similar explanation to the commanders. I think to

2164
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 4: run with the chiefs, Allen's gonna have to get himself

2165
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:31,360
Speaker 4: out of trouble sometimes. Also, I think there's gonna be

2166
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 4: plenty of plan QB runs to get him going.

2167
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:40,479
Speaker 3: That seems to fuel him. Then I'm gonna throw hm. Boy.

2168
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:42,439
Speaker 4: This is where this is where it gets down to

2169
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:47,679
Speaker 4: the nitty gritty. Yeah, give me Patty Mahomes, then Jalen Hurts. Okay, Wow,

2170
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 4: I think differently from last week. I think they're gonna

2171
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 4: have to protect Hurts a little bit more. And so yeah,

2172
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna say Mahomes and Hurts comes.

2173
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 3: In last place. That was a tough list, right, yeah,

2174
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:01,519
Speaker 3: really tough.

2175
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a tough list, I think with Mahomes.

2176
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:07,800
Speaker 5: So I'm looking at the numbers now, Daniel's fifty four

2177
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 5: and a half, Allen forty six and a half, Hurts

2178
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 5: thirty and a half, Mahomes twenty four and a half.

2179
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 5: So that's the order that you're going in. I think

2180
01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 5: with Mahomes, I like the attempts more, which is four

2181
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 5: and a half.

2182
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:21,759
Speaker 2: I think that's an over.

2183
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 5: For me because I think what I noticed with Mahomes

2184
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:27,639
Speaker 5: is he's not breaking the long runs. But he's running

2185
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,879
Speaker 5: at timely moments. And remember when you're betting rushing attempts,

2186
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:35,880
Speaker 5: kneel downs count end of half, and of course if

2187
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 5: the Chiefs win, end of game.

2188
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 3: That's such a good tip.

2189
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:43,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love and people forget that because we talk

2190
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 5: about the rushing yards in college football for the quarterbacks

2191
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 5: negative on the sacks. You don't get a lot of

2192
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:51,599
Speaker 5: rushing attempt props in the college markets. We get them

2193
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:54,040
Speaker 5: in the NFL markets for the quarterbacks. If you're getting

2194
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 5: a four and a half and a fair price, let's

2195
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 5: call it minus one ten, minus one twenty on a

2196
01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 5: Mahomes over four and a half rushing attempts. I think

2197
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:03,519
Speaker 5: that's a good bat. I think the Allen rushing yards

2198
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 5: prop isn't over for me. I think the Daniels rushing

2199
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 5: yards prop is probably priced right. Again, it's hard to

2200
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 5: really keep this in mind because like we're thinking about

2201
01:50:12,280 --> 01:50:15,479
Speaker 5: him breaking a big one, but Daniels fifty five's a

2202
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 5: lot of yards for a quarterback. Like you've got to

2203
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 5: break up like is if you get ten let let's

2204
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:20,439
Speaker 5: say you get ten attempts in a game, which is

2205
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 5: kind of where he's being lined at you gotta go

2206
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 5: six yards to carry. I mean, I mean that's you know,

2207
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 5: that's a pretty decent number for a quarterback when you

2208
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 5: know you really need like a big one to get

2209
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:31,400
Speaker 5: over fifty four and a half. So I'm a little

2210
01:50:31,439 --> 01:50:34,240
Speaker 5: neutral on Daniels. I actually think Josh Allen's got a

2211
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:36,720
Speaker 5: chance to outgain Jayden Daniels with his legs in the

2212
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 5: game because I think Josh Allen's gonna be running for

2213
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 5: his life against that Chiefs defense. And obviously the Jalen

2214
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 5: Hurts injury has to make us downgrade his number. So

2215
01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:47,960
Speaker 5: I would say Allen won Daniels two, and I'd say

2216
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:50,559
Speaker 5: Mahomes three and Hurts four.

2217
01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 2: But I don't think there's a big gap between those

2218
01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:55,559
Speaker 2: two guys. Yeah, that's a tough one. That's the the

2219
01:50:55,640 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts thing is, I know, because he's start to

2220
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 2: know how healthy he is and he's got Saquon you know, Like.

2221
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:06,080
Speaker 5: But don't you think that the Commanders know that, and

2222
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:08,040
Speaker 5: they're gonna play the Reid option to where they're gonna

2223
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,360
Speaker 5: make him keep it, which is gonna force him to

2224
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:12,840
Speaker 5: go like he had that what forty yard touchdown run?

2225
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:15,240
Speaker 2: Because that Commander's just forty injury though too.

2226
01:51:15,320 --> 01:51:16,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you.

2227
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 2: I hear you on that. I just don't know how

2228
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 2: healthy he is. Yeah, Like on a side note, sort of,

2229
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 2: Shalen hurts. He looks the whole game and the whole

2230
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:33,640
Speaker 2: season like he began the first step of the most.

2231
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 3: Grueling the cathlon.

2232
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's just like, all right, let me pace myself.

2233
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 5: You know, he looks next week, impacts it at all.

2234
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 2: He knows he'll get a BUYE could absolutely could. And

2235
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 2: Rich said this earlier. If he's he's not even on

2236
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 2: the injury report, right, if he's cleared to go, he's

2237
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:54,639
Speaker 2: freaking going. We got a super Bowl on the line.

2238
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:56,559
Speaker 5: That could be a mental thing, just to kind of

2239
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:58,800
Speaker 5: screw up the Commanders, like, oh, he's not on the

2240
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:01,559
Speaker 5: injury report. Like the injury reports like such a it's

2241
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 5: like a tool that these coaches use now, like screen coaches,

2242
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:05,960
Speaker 5: other coaches.

2243
01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 3: Heads.

2244
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:09,200
Speaker 2: Man, So I'm looking at your lists. I don't want

2245
01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:12,639
Speaker 2: the same list. That's no fun, you know. So I'm

2246
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 2: gonna go with Josh Allen number one. He's got to

2247
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 2: be the guy. I think that I think that James

2248
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:22,559
Speaker 2: Cook in the running Game can have some success. The

2249
01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:25,719
Speaker 2: Chiefs defense been a little bit leakier down the stretch

2250
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 2: than the beginning of the season, for sure. But I

2251
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:32,600
Speaker 2: think Josh Daniels Josh Allen. This again, this is like

2252
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:35,320
Speaker 2: the trade. There are no training wheels, there are no

2253
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:40,000
Speaker 2: emergency brake, there's freaking nothing, like we're running through people

2254
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 2: at this point, you know. So I'm taking Josh Allen

2255
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:46,320
Speaker 2: number one. I like that. I'm combining them into Josh

2256
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 2: Daniels and Daniels combined. Now that's a guy I would

2257
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:50,920
Speaker 2: take right there.

2258
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 3: That's right.

2259
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 2: You give me both of those quarterbacks combined. Yeah, I'll

2260
01:52:56,040 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 2: take him. I'll go Jaydon Daniels number two because he's

2261
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 2: just dynamic. You know, he's got the highest rushing total. Yeah,

2262
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:09,280
Speaker 2: I'll flip flop yours, Jared. I'll go with Hurts third,

2263
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:13,599
Speaker 2: Mahomes fourth. What's great about this, I wouldn't be shocked

2264
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 2: at all if Mahomes is second. I wouldn't be just

2265
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 2: stunned beyond belief if he's first. Yeah, he runs a

2266
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:24,559
Speaker 2: lot in the playoffs. Remember the AFC title game against

2267
01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 2: the Titans, had that long touchdown run down the sidelines,

2268
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 2: Like Mahomes will tuck it and run in these four

2269
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:31,679
Speaker 2: and a half rushing attempts.

2270
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 5: Prop is I bet three It was three and a

2271
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 5: half at open I hammered that, and the four and

2272
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:37,200
Speaker 5: a half I still think so bad.

2273
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, key on Mahomes also looking to draw the foul

2274
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 4: when he runs the football. I mean he really does.

2275
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 4: To your point, Brian, Big Games, not only will he

2276
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:51,760
Speaker 4: run the football, but also he'll do it intentionally to

2277
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 4: be like, all right, hey, maybe we could get fifteen

2278
01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:55,639
Speaker 4: free ones at the end of this thing.

2279
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true. All right, we got Rich joorn Berger,

2280
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:02,639
Speaker 2: Penn State, All American, Jared's Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm

2281
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,280
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Speaker 2: from now before the picks real fast. Random shout out

2305
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:32,840
Speaker 2: Madison Keys. I don't know if you guys have been

2306
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 2: watching the Australian Open. She won it in the wee

2307
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 2: hours this morning. Oh speed a Sabalanca. So that's our

2308
01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 2: first major win.

2309
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:42,800
Speaker 3: It was her.

2310
01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 2: Forty sixth appearance. That's over eleven years she's been trying

2311
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 2: to win a major. Finally won one. Her previous match

2312
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:54,920
Speaker 2: against IgA Spiatak, freaking classic. I'm watching that. It's like

2313
01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:58,880
Speaker 2: five thirty in the morning. I'm live ben American woman

2314
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:02,879
Speaker 2: win a Grand Slam? Is it Serena? I don't probably,

2315
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 2: but that's all shout out to her man winning her

2316
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:10,040
Speaker 2: first major. That's awesome, So very well done. Madison Keys

2317
01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 2: getting it done at the Ayow Australian Open. I they

2318
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:17,160
Speaker 2: shortened that. I've got some picks to make. Let's do it.

2319
01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:23,040
Speaker 3: Rapid fire, all right, Jared.

2320
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 2: We start with you.

2321
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 3: What do you like?

2322
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 2: All right, we'll go the Vic Fangio special here.

2323
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 5: We're gonna go a Jade Daniels under to twenty seven

2324
01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 5: and a half passing yards.

2325
01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:32,160
Speaker 2: We're seeing this number get bet up a little bit.

2326
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 2: I understand why all the buzz on Jayde and Daniels

2327
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:36,920
Speaker 2: this week, But two thirteen and a half. That was

2328
01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 2: the number in week sixteen.

2329
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 5: If it wasn't for that drop by DeVante Smith, he

2330
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 5: stays under that total. In week eleven, his total against

2331
01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 5: the Eagles was two twenty four and a half. He

2332
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:46,560
Speaker 5: finished with one ninety one. I just I'm barring some

2333
01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 5: kind of crazy game script where the Eagles have a

2334
01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:50,080
Speaker 5: huge lead and he's got to chase the game. I

2335
01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 5: don't see how Daniels goes over this number. Patrick Mahomes

2336
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:54,920
Speaker 5: over four and a half rushing attempts, Guys, I love

2337
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:57,840
Speaker 5: this prop. The last six playoff games for Mahomes seven

2338
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 5: to nine, to six, six, two in that crazy cold

2339
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 5: game against your Dolphins last year, Brian, and then six

2340
01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl two years ago.

2341
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 2: I just think the kneel downs count. It is a

2342
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:08,200
Speaker 2: great bet to make.

2343
01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:10,960
Speaker 5: For Mahomes, and I Am not going to wake up

2344
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:16,360
Speaker 5: Monday morning and hate myself for betting against Patrick Mahomes

2345
01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 5: in an AFC title game. I'll take the Chiefs on

2346
01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 5: the money line. I think they are moving on to

2347
01:57:20,280 --> 01:57:20,840
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl.

2348
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, very good. I like the Chiefs Bills

2349
01:57:24,280 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 4: game to be a shootout. I think I'm gonna take

2350
01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 4: the over on this forty eight and a half. It

2351
01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:31,760
Speaker 4: feels like one of those games that's gonna be a classic.

2352
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about this this postseason matchup in the

2353
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:38,160
Speaker 4: AFC Championship Game for years to come.

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Speaker 3: So give me the over. Forty and a half chief Spills. Okay, Chiefs,

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01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 3: if they win by a field goal, they will.

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Speaker 4: Secure themselves a win and also cover the spread. So

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Speaker 4: I'll take the minus two on the Chiefs, and then

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Speaker 4: the Commanders. I say, keep it close with the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: I think we're gonna have a rematch in the super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: But Commanders plus six feels right to me. So give

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Speaker 4: me the dogs in that game with the points.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so let me start with what you

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Speaker 2: just said, Rich, I'm on the dog as well. Okayvy

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Speaker 2: Washington plus six Divisional rival right, rivalry Rivals. I could

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01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:21,040
Speaker 2: have picked either one and it would have been correct.

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Speaker 2: Instead I said, I said rival, and it's neither.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 2: I like it a lot. But Jade and Daniels suspend spectacular.

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Speaker 2: I know he's going up against the very, very tough defense,

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Speaker 2: but I just I don't see the Eagles boat racing them.

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01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:37,440
Speaker 2: I just don't six points in a game like this.

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's the better option, So

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Speaker 2: I'll take Washington plus six. I'm also in agree in

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01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:46,640
Speaker 2: agreement with you. What's up with these wrong words? I

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01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 2: got KC money line minus one thirty against the Bills.

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Speaker 2: I will not hate myself. That's wrong on Monday morning.

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Speaker 2: I just like the odds of case moving on more so.

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Speaker 2: And man, there's so much stuff I love. There are

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Speaker 2: a lot of things I'm gonna go. I'm gonna add

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Speaker 2: Mahomes to the list. I don't know how effective their

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Speaker 2: running game is gonna be. You know, Isaiah Pacheco Kareem hunting,

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Speaker 2: you know. And I think Mahomes is gonna have a game. Man,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take over two fifty five and a half.

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Speaker 2: We've seen the Bills defense get diced up before. I

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Speaker 2: think Mahome's gonna have to be big, and I think

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01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:27,800
Speaker 2: he will be. I'll take him over to fifty five

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Speaker 2: and a half passing yards in that game. I said,

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Speaker 2: my record is similar to a documentary franchise. I'm thirty

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Speaker 2: and thirty.

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Speaker 3: Oh there is.

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Speaker 2: I'm having a terrible year. I'm gonna finish the last

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Speaker 2: I don't way. There are stretches on red hot, there

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Speaker 2: are stretches of ice cold, and it just five hundred

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Speaker 2: Enjoy Championship Sunday,